Horizon Forbidden West PS5 Patch 1.16: 60FPS Performance Mode Finally Fixed!
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2022
- When Horizon Forbidden West launched, we recommended playing with the 30fps quality mode - because the 60fps mode's 3200x1800 checkerboard solution didn't quite work. However, Guerrilla Games' latest patch is a game-changer. It's still 1800p checkerboard, but the developers have massively revamped the anti-aliasing solution, removing the shimmer and vastly improving image quality. So which way should you play the game now - 30fps 4K or 60fps checkerboard? John Linneman gives us his thoughts!
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This has been some great post-launch support. They've earned a reputation of not abandoning issues, just like with Zero Dawn.
Remind me which game launched this year without issues, not defending this game btw I genuinely want to know.
@JC Denton That's very hard to pull off.
@JC Denton Them and every developer since the beginning of time.
@JC Denton you call Elden Ring a game without issues? It was fucking broken on PC with drops to 10fps on 3090 every minute or two. Geez.
@JC Denton So all the games you mentioned never had any post launch updates except for DLC? Since they launched in a perfect state.
It's amazing how improving the fine detailed foliage etc just straight up makes the image look like it got a massive resolution boost.
@@ramonandrajo6348 Lmfao everyone who uses the word "woke" is a loser.
@Bam OuttaDaBayou play something else then u fool
y'all complaining about "wokeness" is so fuckign funny lmao
@Bam OuttaDaBayou
Story,I can understand you aren't a fan of,but gameplay?
What's wrong with the gameplay?
@@hrywlms
Hey he isn't a fool because he doesn't like it.
Though I would prefer more arguments.
This is such an interesting video, and I really appreciate this sort of content from Digital Foundry. As a player, I never really get to know the specific nitty-gritty details like these from patch notes and such. To me it's just "game looks better", but not "how we made it look better". It's so cool and so interesting to get an explanation like this (with comments from the game developer themselves!) to actually tell us how these improvements were made.
I would also like to echo DF's credit to Guerrilla for putting in the work and making such a huge improvement to the image quality. I had honestly given up that they were going to fix it, and then they just knocked it out of the park with this update. A huge "wow!" and a big thank you to all the people at Guerrilla for making the changes in this patch. I'm on my New Game+ playthrough now and it looks and runs INCREDIBLE. This is the kind of support I love to see from my favorite game developers! :)
Most people played through this once or twice years ago and haven't touched since, time better spent elsewhere imho.
Horizon got benched as soon as elden ring came out. How people still praise this generic open world slog fest for anything but it's graphics is beyond me.
@@Battleneter The game released 4 months ago. I haven’t even played it yet.
@@D71219ONE I'm about 1hr into the first game and lost interest . These open world berry collecting quest games shit me to tears . To boring
@@ramonandrajo6348 Touch grass.
I decided to give the performance mode a go after the patch and my mind has been officially blow. The performance mode looks basically on par with the resolution mode it's hard to tell the difference but the 60FPS feels sooo good. Amazing they managed to get the game to look this good and play as well as it does it's actually incredible. Well done Guerilla!
Looks like the only difference between the modes are cube map reflection resolution, but it's not even that much of a drop. its fantastic looking still.
There are plenty of games that receive a lot of support post launch, but few studios are like Guerrilla and put extra effort in using this support to improve the game.
@@ramonandrajo6348 Woke ? Wtf are you talking about
@@e.777.r2 he thinks that minorities being prevalent in a game makes it woke.
@@e.777.r2 he's afraid of anyone with complexion darker than his own and hates it when there happens to be a LGBTQ+ character in a game. He spams all over UA-cam, he's safe to ignore. Don't feed the bigot, he doesn't deserve the time.
@@ramonandrajo6348 horizon is not woke at all what are you falling about
@@ramonandrajo6348 You can't just say it's woke without any evidence. By doing that you essentially make yourself look like an anti LGBTQ asshole.
It's pretty amazing to see a developer listen and take feedback to heart.... Guerilla has been fulfilling even some of the most mundane of community requests.
@@ramonandrajo6348 lg tv representation on it?
@@ramonandrajo6348 what's the message? Haven't played it yet
@@ramonandrajo6348 incels crying about wokeness over and over again is my kink.
All they need to do now is start making games again that aren't sleep inducing. Seriously this game is so repetitive it feels more like an Ubisoft open world.
Excellent, fascinating video. Great to hear what exactly has changed over the past six months directly from the developers.
@@ramonandrajo6348 Wtf does that even mean
@@ramonandrajo6348 You sound like one of those conspiracy nut cases.
@@ramonandrajo6348 Why don't you actually try to explain what exactly the "agenda" and "The Message" is. Literally just sounds like some dumb conspiracy shit. Explain in detail.
@@ramonandrajo6348 You definitely are not. You are in a deep sleep.
It's really been six months already. God time flies when you're having fun.
This game is ridiculously gorgeous on PS5 on an OLED 😍 Great video
@@ramonandrajo6348 too woke
Go woke go broke.. eventually.
@@ramonandrajo6348 go woke or go broke guys,
There is nothing woke in this game. It’s a fantastic game.
Agreed it looks unbelievably good
@@xtechtips152 Its not woke
Bravo Guerrilla Games. Bravo. Outstanding job. And thank you DF for allowing us to appreciate just how much work went into this patch.
it's so funny to me how we've come to a point where we're praising developers for doing something that they're supposed to do. They launched this game with obvious issues and now we're giving them kudos for fixing those issues four months later. It's just fascinating to me how we just accept games being launched in such a unacceptable state, it's just normal for us now.
Yes, thank you Gurerrilla for fixing your broken game you chose to launch and took 4 months to fix.
@@chadmann132 Dont blame Guerilla Games man, blame capitalism. The devs dont get a choice at a certain point once them shareholders are on your head.
@@iDontUploadiJustSub somehow I have my doubts, many games get delayed, and guerilla isn't some new dev who needs to prove themselves, they've been around the block.
@@chadmann132 forbidden west was in development for over 5 years, imo that's very long and it was probably an ultra expensive project. Still good that they fixed it obviously
I have a lot of dizzines trouble playing on 30 fps, but playing Ratchet on 40 FPS was fine, and the graphics were much better than 60 fps. Gonna wait to try out NG+ Horizon on 40 FPS
If you have vrr then ratchet and clank actually averages at around 50-55 fps, sometimes even hitting 60fps in fidelity mode. I'm excited to see how much headroom there is in forbidden west.
@@gavinderulo12 yeah, I played Ratchet before the VRR update. Curious about that as well!
@@ShutterManAce most movies look fine at 24fps, and many would agree that it’s the best. And after this new console generation launched, I would have to agree with you that it’s hard to go back to playing games at 30fps.
40fps is just so much better than 30. even the steam deck now has a 40hz toggle as the 30fps limiter introduced heavy input delay
Hmm I guess not everyone has the same experience playing games in 30fps. I thought it was fine for me, but I will definitely replay the game on NG+ when the 40fps update drops
Thanks for the video, great job going over the patch.
This game has been on my list to play since it was announced, but as always with games it pays to be patient.
After the initial wave of fabulous reviews that never mentioned anything about this shimmering issue, the community at large immediately complained about it.
As you said, it’s really too bad it was released in original configuration.
It is impossible for this to be unnoticed by the studio.
If the disc goes on sale for Christmas I may buy it then, or I may wait until next year.
Very cool video. Love to see some follow through on their part, and an easily understood breakdown on your part.
These are the kinds of videos I just love getting notified about. Always appreciate your work, and the Horizon games are especially close to my heart when it comes to beauty and performance. I'm one of the lucky ones who isn't very far into the games yet, so this update makes me extremely happy!
I wish I waited before (almost) 100%ing the game. I played most of the game with the previous performance mode. It was still a great time though, my only advice is take it slow and gather tons of materials since upgrades can be reaaaally costly
Me too, now that all the noise is gone it's time to play.
I’m right there with you man, got almost the entire game tomexplore simce I stopped olaying when the visual noise became too bad! Can’t wait!
I just started playing and I was wondering how I wasn't really seeing any graphical issues in the performance mode, turns out I was playing the fixed version from the start. Game is absolutely gorgeous and works fantastically.
Nice! I was hoping DF would analyze the new patch when they dropped the "improved perf mode" announce. The shimmering issues were hard to ignore, at first, I thought the patches helped, at least to my eye, but wow it looks great now! Thanks Guerrilla! And thanks DF, great video.
I came back after 1.16 and its like night and day.. Now it really feels like next-gen
Love Guerrilla games, they always follow through and take the use feedback to heart. Love the studio, even for Horizon zero dawn for PC, they keep updating game even after a year. Which shows the best practices for a long running studio which fans and user relay on.
Man, imagine if every developer put so much care and attention into the development and support of their games. The gaming landscape would be such a better place.
It's called not releasing a broken game. But this "journalist" loves to sugarcoat ps bullcrap.
@@JoNaXKaY same way you like to over exaggerate PS game issues, huh fanboy, "broken" lmao
@@deltavictorbravo-7428 xboxs dont even have games..i bet they would love to have some games to play even BROKEN ones would be fine for them shesh
@@JoNaXKaY Bethesda is Infamous for always releasing actual "broken" games and they're so incompetent it's usually up to members of the public to fix their games with mods 😬
@@JoNaXKaY they work hard at keeping the Bethesda store updated with all the latest rip off micro transactions though 👌
I like the note about wind intensity as I was wondering for a second if that was changed as well. Detailed work as always John.
Great work on this video John, I'm also excited to see how the 40hz mode turns out. I might have to wait until then to pick the game up again.
Performance mode looks absolutely beautiful after the latest patch.
I was playing since launch on resolution mode because it looked much better than performance to me.
But now I can finally play it on performance it looks as great as resolution mode now.
I’ve been playing on resolution mode since launch too, something I never do (I hate 30fps after trying out 60). I’m still switching between the two modes even now, I can’t tell which one I prefer
@@lewishague123 before the update when I played the game the game looked blurry and the environment felt smudged, now its way more crisper and cleaner, before I could tell the difference between performance and resolution mode after the update I can't. And 60fps looks beautiful
I just started this game last night and was constantly changing the 2 modes and honestly could not tell the difference. The performance mode looks like native 4k @60. No game on PS5 should be running anything less. The power is there. This is a massive open world too.
These kind of videos are the very essence of Digital Foundry. Kudos to DF and Guerrilla for their amazing game
I was waiting for this video, thanks
Thank you for the another insightful video. Been waiting to hear exactly what was changed to make such a night and day improvement. This also furthers along the notion of raw pixel count as part of a number of different factors that affect image quality.
Performance mode does look SO much better now, I used to only use it for combat but now I use it most of the time. Fantastic work by Guerrila!
I was blown away by how clean it looked. Nice job GG
Thanks John. Been waiting for your recommendation on this mode or stick to fidelity. Respect to you and your great work.
Great analysis, it’s always a pleasure to see such quality in your video. I’ve not yet played to horizon and will do so in the next months. My game backlog explode last year. 😵💫
I appreciate how well this game runs and how stunning it looks. Breathtaking!
They did a great job here. I was very upset with how it looked on launch. It looked extremely low in resolution. This now looks like quality mode but in 60fps.
Launch was rough. It looked worse than HZD running at 60fps on PS5
@@hydratic7509 nah, you could argue better image quality maybe (on PS5 at least), but areas like San Fran, red wood forest, and the swamp/jungle areas were just far more impressive than anything in HZD regardless of watered down picture quality.
@@ramonandrajo6348 Get lost man.
@@ramonandrajo6348 if it's not worth it, then why are you even here? Nobody wants to hear about you being upset. Lol
@@ramonandrajo6348 Stop spamming the comments like a lunatic.
Thank you so much, John and DF, for this specific review and your explanations. I was more than irritated when playing the game first time directly after watching your first test because the flickering wasn't mentioned. Thankful that ALL my problems are resolved now!
Amazing work! I'll be picking this up soon
Wow that is a pretty significant improvement. They did an excellent job with fixing that shimmer(which, if we are all honest, was pretty rough).
I look forward to trying 40hz mode. I've learned that when playing on 120hz tvs or monitors, 40fps modes are actually not bad at all. 30 does feel too slow for me, but 40 is enough to give more illusion of smoothness that 60 brings, but more flexibility to dial graphics up further.....It's why i also truly appreciate what steam deck has done with their variable refresh rate update for doing same there as well and using 40 or 50hz mode instead of 60..
Now that 40hz mode is out I'm not so sure it's much better. It feels slightly more responsive but the framerate is still pretty low.
Thank you for this video...
i bought the game on release and shortly after, saw the old video about the performance issues and i decided to wait and see if it would be fixed.
now i can play it! Just in time for the summer holiday! thank you :)
Another great video by John.
I never really had any major issues with my play through but I'm glad to see new players can play with this enhanced patch. Thank you DF! I'll enjoy this when I do my Ultra Hard play through.
@@ramonandrajo6348 Don't be an overdramatic snowflake. Are you really scared of "woke" games?
@@ct-gv6yl gaystation 5
@@ramonandrajo6348 wdym woke
I noticed how good performance mode looked immediately after the patch install. Super happy with the support and loving my time with the game.
Tested the update its a huge improvement. Now this is a showcase of the power of ps5. Picture is no longer blurry or shimmering but sharp 4k 60fps.
Excellent analysis. I just recently played most of the way through the story mode in performance mode. (I tried resolution mode first, promise, but I just can't do 30fps any more.) The shimmering was certainly distracting but the game was so compelling that I lived with it. Halfway through my post-story play, this patch dropped and the difference was incredible. I've been going back and revisiting past locations just to see how much better it all looks. Huge props to Guerilla for A+ post-launch support!
This patch is amazing. Finally I'll be able to play this game after so long. John's analysis is also amazing.
Sony wasn't lying when they said they didn't allow GG to crunch. That's why there us still a few bug issues. Still a great game and the best out currently.
I can accept the bugs and glitches as almost none of them were really game breaking. People forget that the game was developed with 2 years during the height of the pandemic.
Awesome stuff. Can't wait for that VRR mode too!
Thanks for this. I am so glad they sorted out performance mode.
1.16 basically a gamechanger，especially on big screen, i can finally continue this game and waiting VRR the same time.
I congratulate guerilla for looking into these issues and fixing them. There are many devs that just let them go after the initial buzz
Indeed...
What a shame.
other studios fix issues day one or a week later patches tho
@@SL4PSH0CK they dont
Elden Ring is abandonware at this point
I really love your videos, DF. They are the absolute pinnacle of this form of comparison.
Absolutely love that you were able to talk to the devs and get the inside story. We're lucky to have you going into such depth
Fantastic work by Guerrilla and awesome analysis by John. I'm glad I decided to put down the game a few hours into it, instead of returning it. Starting it over has been a much better experience this time around.
Same, I was waiting for this kind of improvements before I dive into the game.
Same here, had trust a patch will come that will solve the problems on performance mode and damn, they delivered. Feels like true next-gen now
Horizon Forbidden West is so much fun! Great to see updates from Guerrilla 👏👏👏🙌
Great job Guerrilla Games, I´m having a blast of time playing this game with this patch.
Yeah! I've been for waitin' for this!
That explanation of how they changed the way reconstruction worked was so interesting I love that you contacted the developers about this. Also can we say Guerilla have managed come up with a temporal upscaling method rivaling DLSS given how close the image quality of the 60 fps performance mode now to the resolution mode?
DLSS uses dedicated tensor cores on the gpu for deep learning super sampling. The ps5 doesn't have dedicated hardware for deep learning super sampling. Not sure how they're doing it, but whatever they're doing its amazing.
I can't wait to see what they come up with for the 40fps and vrr mode next.
One of the most beautiful games ever made. Now if only they could patch Aloy’s personality.
I think her personality is good. Being outcast at birth she grew up to be a strong, independent woman with a go getter attitude. She doesn't care to be held up and praised, but is very focused on what's important to her, saving the world.
@@fall-neckthetallneck2977 I like Horizon, but Aloy's got as much personality as a piece of toast.
Excellent video!
As always nice video. Just simple question:
How the DF team didn't notice that the 60 fps mode was totally broken at D1?
Switched to performance mode after the update. Image quality is amazing. Fidelity mode feels obsolete now.
I’m am so excited for the 40hz mode and for VRR support!
Hopefully it won’t take that long until release :)
Thanks John. I’ve been holding out on playing this one and I’m glad the 60fps mode now has your stamp of approval 😬
What the, 10K views on 30mins?! Nice work John!
I stopped playing early on due to the shimmer, it really did my head in. I've just recently started it again and I'm happy with the changes, I think I can now see this through to the end eventually. All the things you can adjust with the UI is also welcome. Good job Guerilla.
Platinum'd the game and the shimmer never even bothered me!
@@realgamer9413 It made me stop playing within the first hour, however i will give the game another try now that it has been fixed
Same I stopped playing after the game looked blurry and smudged I was like wtf and now it looks so beautiful and crisp
And people tried to tell me that their version was perfect and that the shimmering didn't exist...
Ahh I asked for this and you guys delivered
You love to see a patch like this - and you love to see Digital Foundry keeping up on it to let people know exactly what changed and how it changed. Fantastic work as always!
Performance mode looks so good now. Many thanks for the video and all the details. Very interesting and highly appreciated.
The game is now the ps5 showcase in 60 fps I was looking for. Really looking forward now to the VRR patch.
Some tech person reviewing the update (I don’t remember which) said a game running this smoothly doesn’t really need Vrr support. That doesn’t mean it won’t get it.
I just made it to the point of the video that Vrr is going to be happening lol.
@@mangasaint it’s true. VRR is not needed here but I’m curious how much headroom the game has on the ps5.
Just imagine similar results like on the insomniac games. Horizon 2 with this fidelity running above 60 fps would be stunning. Or the 4K mode running above 40 fps. I’m thrilled to see that.
Furthermore Guerilla could increased the LoD in distance because minor fps drops wouldn’t be noticeable anymore.
Wow it looks so much better! I bought the game when it came out but haven’t started playing it yet because life got in the way. I’m glad it’s patched to look this good now! Looking forward to playing it soon.
@4:07 all I can picture is the Dark Souls notification that pops up after you kill a Boss. “Shimmering Vanquished”
Very useful thank you guy's
Nice! I'll hang on and wait for the 40hz mode. Very interested to see how well that works.
@@ramonandrajo6348 ??
I’m waiting too not gonna rush and drop $70 again.
What is woke?
@@ramonandrajo6348 you're embarassing hopping into people's comments - go play some other game child
@@ramonandrajo6348 good god do you people ever stop, please do shut up.
They were never using just one frame from history to generate their reprojected image. In my captured footage from about a month after launch, I was able to recognize ghosting artifacts persisting for 8 frames.
Which makes sense. With checkerboard, if you only use the previous frame, you have essentially no AA at all. With checkerboard, each frame renders half the pixels, so two frames gives you full native resolution, but no AA. AA requires reprojection from earlier frames that rendered the same pixels you're currently rendering. So for checkerboard, the bare minimum you need to achieve temporal AA is the current frame plus the last 3 frames. This gives you the look of 2xAA. If you include reprojection from 8 frames total, that gives you the look of 4xAA, which is much more reasonable for TAA.
Also, a LOT of your issues with the unpatched version were fixed in the day one update. Would have been better to compare the existing patch with the new patch instead of reverting to a version most people never played.
Bravo Guerilla! Although there have been almost 4 months after the release, they fixed the problems and now the game plays better than ever!
great vid and great work by guerilla. I loved the game at launch despite the performance mode being unplayable for me personally because of the shimmering. fidelity mode is truly stunning so I kinda forced myself to adjust to the 30fps on my first playthrough. now that performance mode is perfected I'm having a blast playing through it again
It was the exact same for me. Took about 20 hours of playing to get used to the 30fps again. That was a rough 20 hours. Lol, now I'm on a new game(not ng+) on ultra hard with performance mode and am having a blast. Combat is so intense and I'm still in the daunt. Lol 😆
they did a fantastic job on the new patch. The visuals on performance mode or a noticeable Improvement. Still the best-looking game of this console generation, and the best game of the year so far.
I'm still on my first playthrough, so the improvement in clarity is very welcome! There are a few things I wish they'd fine tune though:
The lights the machines cast on the ground (very noticeable when riding a mount) is ridiculously bright in broad daylight, and just looks plain wrong.
Climbing feels 95% of the way there, but often Aloy will just fail to reach for a nearby handhold, or just fail to climb up on to solid ground because she isn't in the "right place".
There are times when she grabs on to the bottom of a ladder or ledge, and her entire body clips through the geometry.
I guess all these are minor things in the scheme of things, but I do feel like I've noticed more small annoyances in FW than I did in ZD.
I have no problems with the climbing. But Aloy is constantly falling off of platforms because of the excessive animations.
Especially since they have the grapple mechanic now. Whenever I'm climbing stuff I'm always feeling like my time is being wasted because they could have just replaced most of the climbing with grappling around instead.
I just really wish they had a setting for the "hero light" on Aloy. I get it during cutscenes, but when you're hiding in the grass in the middle of the night, her face is lit up by a spotlight and it just looks so unnatural.
Great video, I’m still not sure why the god of war FSR video is so long in comparison
What's so funny is that I just now started playing the game. Finished it on resolution mode the whole way. Then for the DLC I tried performance mode out and was blown away. It just looks way better. Were my eyes deceiving me?? I saw your older vid and looked online: seemed like a lot of people still preferred resolution mode. But I realize now that all of that was before this patch (that I never knew about because I played the game this year) and this video confirms my suspicion. As someone who usually prefers the fidelity.. performance mode for HFW is on another level. Bravo.
Would you say Performace mode is the way to go? I'm gonna play it soon and usually I want 60fps cause I hate 30 fps these days.
@packlesswolf1 yeah don't even bother with resolution mode. There's no point to that one. The graphics and picture quality are the same on performance. And depending on your TV/monitor's hz it can end up averaging about 90fps, often going into the triple digits. It looks unbelievable. I'm gonna start an NG+ on this mode.
The game definitely looks way better on performance mode after the patch. Hopefully they can fix the pop in issues next
This was a great purchase especially when the developers keep shining the game up
I agree; Guerilla deserves major kudos for such a fantastic post launch support. I just hope the next patch, does not come with even more weapon and braced shot nerfs!
From memory this is the only post launch patch that actually improved performance, in any games I played
Insomniac games did the same thing with ratchet and Spiderman i think all sony studios will do this now and improve game even more after launch
Props to Guerrilla for doing the impossible! HFW feels amazing now in performance mode. Easily the best-looking game of all time. Thank you! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
It really is. One of the most beautiful games of all time. Congrats and that even with a cross gen title.
Lmao 🤣 🤣
Facts 💯👌🏽
Careful now calling a game the best looking is extremely triggering to fanboys, especially if it's an exclusive.
I have to say it's one of the most impressive looking games I've ever seen
That noise was unacceptable and should have been pointed out much fiercer by Digital Foundry in the first place
my ps5 is so happy now 😍 great work guerilla !
Kudos to them for tackling this problem. So great.
What Guerrilla have done here is simply incredible, they deserve all the praise they can get
They dont deserve shit, the problem's should have never been there ,there a triple A studio with sonys money , its crazy that they couldnt port a ps4 game with 4k 60 fps and 120fps for 1080p .
@@freshnesbro3792 seems like you don't quite understand how game development works
@@Darth_Zabrak Nah im just a consumer, that uses logic, if i pay for a product i expect it to work properly especially when its been developed for worse hardware.
@@freshnesbro3792 yep, you certainly dont understand, i am done here, good day sir
@@Darth_Zabrak Yeah go cry in a corner, there is a good product and a bad one, hfw was really bad.
Took you guys long enough to finally address this issue. Would've been nice to let us know during your first video during the game's launch. Glad we had some smaller youtubers such as @GamingTech to continuously bring this issue forward and held Guerilla accountable for the disastrous performance mode.
Thanks for mentioning me 😀
It wasn’t disastrous that’s quite dramatic I had no issues playing on performance mode since launch. You guys always try to bash the hard work these devs do
@@akkibajaj705 wdym you guys?
The team at Guerilla have done an absolute amazing job at polishing resolution and performance in performance mode. I can't tell the difference between Res mode and Performance mode (except for the FPS of course), at the naked eye (and even with my prescription glasses) I really can't find the difference. I'm sure the difference is somewhere, but I got tired of looking for it, great job Guerilla, this game looks amazing.
I got this on launch day and felt guilty for not playing it yet...until NOW! Maybe I need to wait a few months to play all new releases. Going to finally start this tonight.
Actually, the best graphics game... for now.
This game looks fantastic now in performance mode. It looks so good in fact that I don’t really see the point of resolution mode anymore. Kudos to the developers
I've seen that shimmery effect in foliage & stuff in MANY MANY 4K games over the years & it's cool that they actually bothered to fix it. I always thought it was just a side effect of it being a video game & something that was unavoidable...
I must admit I rarely start a AAA games these days without checking with you guys first for best option to play it, thank for what you do 👌. Now that patch 1.17 is out including 40Hz mode and VRR, are you planing on doing a new analysis anytime soon?
Are we all going to ignore how Digital Foundry purposely didn't mention any shimming on performance mode when they did their initial review. Barely any UA-camr mentioned how bad it really looked except for a few like Gaming Tech
Yea total BS.
yeah like wtf
Great video as always, although I don't understand why it's just in 1080p. Is YT really that slow with processing 4k these days (it's been more than 3 hours since the upload) or was this uploaded in just 1080p?
It’s 4K now, UA-cam has just been very very slow lately.
@@mirfalltnixein.1 Yeah, this video was already released for Patreons 22 hours ago and it was indeed then not 4K yet. Think they now mostly use this Patreon-exclusive period for UA-cam to play catch-up haha.
@@mrtnptrs
Don‘t the Patrons get access to the source files to download? Why would you then even care about the compressed mess that is UA-cam? 🤔
@@ledooni Was on my phone and wanted to watch a piece of the video without having to download it first haha, afterwards downloaded it onto my PC and watched it haha.
@@mrtnptrs
Haha fair 👍
I‘m very happy they offer these source files. Especially the HDR game footage is a lifesaver when trying to test TVs in German stores where they don‘t allow you to bring a console and also just because I can‘t take my water cooled PC with me.
Great video. Great comparison. A needed patch. I was torn between the visual and performance before. I switched between often. Now performance is how it should play on the PS5. This is an excellent game. In my top 10 games. Thanks.
Looks so much better now!
its clearly visible after the last patch, how much room for emprovement was possible in the performance mode. In my opinion DF completely missed out on positivily influencing the development and pointing out the technical flaws as usual. Would have been nice to see some productive critic on the performance mode in the first tech review instead of being fine with recommending 4k30 (with blackframe incertion) for a high action first party studio game, and talking about a switch in development, we're it comes more and more visible that a performance version seems not feasible any more. I pray and hope they will stick to deliver high performance modes including vrr support and fsr 2.0 in the future. As huge fan, thank you so much guerrilla games for fixing this! Horizon always pushed technical boundaries and the presentation was superb! Until the release of forbidden West. I can finally enjoy the game as I hoped it would have looked out of the box. But better now then never... I am in awe of the lod and the inviroment, nothing has come close to this staggering amount of detail! (which now can even shine in performance mode! )
Agreed, except I'm not as such a big fan of fsr 2.0. It showed in the God of War video that fsr 2.0 has problems like dithering when Kratos was swinging his are around, or shimmering on Kratos beard. It's descent but it's not great.
@@fall-neckthetallneck2977 hopefully fsr2.0 will evolve. It's just the first step in the right direction and seems miles better then checkerboard for consoles
the original unpatched resolution mode looked way better and sharper
I enjoy these videos very much. Also now I think I will play the game
Good things come to those who wait and save their money. I still have to finish the HZD (along w/a huge backlog as is). I might have to scoop this up in fall or winter.
On a side note, if you want to see some massive shimmer at times look no further than Control. It's indoor and generally more angular environments make the issue less of a big deal imo.