MY MAN. Now that I'm hearing it, I can hear the voice hitting perfectly. Had that low tone thinking Dom, but you nailed it. My bad!! Absolutely Johnny and then Jesse screaming no no no no no! My apologies Family...didn't mean to disrespect the best!
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda Civics with Spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three T-66 turbos with NOS, and a Motec exhaust system.
@robbiecdiscgolf, overall a good analogy to help me with distance for sure!! But the facts are that a spoon engine is hi reving and high compressioned. Turbo would not go well with the engine set up. 🤓
Wow, Yeah, very informative and unlike other videos I’ve seen explaining the elusive “power pocket” and how to access it! I’ve been trying to tweak my throw since all the power pocket videos have come out, and this is the only one that actually explains clearly what is probably the most important part of the whole concept.. I always tried accelerating from the reach back and I usually failed due to rounding, but this seems to be the answer I needed, well done!
Hey Robbie, we played together a couple years ago at the “compound” tournament. I’m not sure if you remember, but I just wanted to say that this is content you expect to receive behind a paywall. Excellent connection with head placement, acceleration, and shoulder rotation. I will definitely apply this check down next time I’m out at the course! Great work!
I am exactly with you on this. I was working on my form on my deck when I realized I was straining myself and too early in in the throw; so more optimally, I should spread out the exertion throughout and especially at the end of the throw
Great video. A couple months ago I was struggling with my form, and I just stopped reaching back. What I mean is, I spent about a week or two where the disc was never behind my left hip (RHBH). Lead to some good throws, and I gradually added reachback back into the throw, with more success than I’d had previously
Hey Robbie! Hope you’ve had a chance to throw the AM Stalker. I’ve recently been cracking open the answer to the ‘what starts the rotation’ question. Tristan Tanner and Aaron Gossage have the keys to the answer. For Goose, it’s when he locks his right knee. This naturally initiates the hip rotation that starts the whip crack. For TT, it’s trying to bring both knees together to achieve the same effect. I definitely feel a difference when I lock my right knee back. The rotation just happens without thought.
Robbie, I spent most of last night laying in bed thinking about this exact issue. Am I not wasting potential by accelerating for a “longer” period? The timing of this vid couldn’t be more spot on.
Re: the pros, you can see this in action with the very slow / high FPS video where their forearm muscles become very flexed but not until they are in the deep pocket and want to fling out. Good thought/video :)
In addition to accelerating at the right time, I also have to focus on keeping my front shoulder strong so I don't collapse the power pocket, while keeping my elbow loose, with strong grip pressure depending on the throw power. It's kind of a lot to think about, but starting to become second nature the more reps I do.
The rule with the head is “eye on the ball” like a batter, down and perpendicular to your shot. The back shoulder not the front shoulder is the thing that lets your head pull through.
Thank you sir. I am a 2 year player. Have struggled with power. Explains why I throw farther on stand still , everything is slowed down standing still. When I walk up it's so much less power . Timing is accelerated . Stand still is laged
This video came out when I was doing fieldwork. I tried this and I was getting more spin and distance. Now I need to work on the timing to get my accuracy down.
Intro to a BIG DISTANCE video is a throw at 5.4 mph? Just jking, love what you do, keep it up. Not to offend anyone but when I first watched my form it look like the my entire left side had cerebral palsy ,while I was falling foward attempting to spin..
My problem with this thought is that when i try it i feel like I'm rounding more than pulling in a straight line. I'll have to get out to a field tomorrow and try it
I am starting to wonder if you are spying on me!! --- I have been working on the net and I have a special overlay on my net for targeting. Anyway, I had been training for a month and I felt like it was awesome and smooth and would just fly >300' - right. So, finally I go out yesterday to my local and test what I can do. I was disappointed. Just barely 300' - most were 240' and up. So, I did improve a bit, 50' or so - but I knew while I was throwing yesterday that my arm was pulling and my hips were not spinning at the right time etc. etc. ad-infinitum/ad-nauseum. Thinking about it later and analyzing what I was doing - I would summarize it as this: - 1. I wanted distance so bad that I used muscle and was arm throwing - in essence totally ignoring all the good work I trained on.... - 2. I actually did what you are explaining in todays video - in that, I had lost most of my power before I could rotate - and when I did rotate it felt weak and insignificant. I am going to test again and this time I will not worry about the distance, but just do the form like I train and see what happens. (This is a "mind" thing - i.e., wanting to throw far and just scraping the form LOL) - I was throwing putters (Aviars) and then my entire bag. Not much of a difference between them (for me) - perhaps 30-50' extra. Clearly not what I expected. As an additional test, I threw from a standstill and hit the same distance as if I ran up. So, I knew something was wrong. Like you - I put a lot of science and analysis into my game/sport .. thing. 🤣
One quick tip for you Robbie, i noticed that you turn your head before hand goes through, try to keep it still, head follows hand, not opposite, im pretty sure the throwing speed increase 5mph more after that. Good video tho! 👊🏻
Correction on the FF1 quote. That was between Johnny Tran and Jesse during race wars. 😉
Yep! You're a true F&F fan lol
MY MAN. Now that I'm hearing it, I can hear the voice hitting perfectly. Had that low tone thinking Dom, but you nailed it. My bad!! Absolutely Johnny and then Jesse screaming no no no no no! My apologies Family...didn't mean to disrespect the best!
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda Civics with Spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three T-66 turbos with NOS, and a Motec exhaust system.
you set up the nos so that the turbo crams it into the spoon engines and then you break the speed of light and open a portal to Narnia. true story.
@robbiecdiscgolf, overall a good analogy to help me with distance for sure!! But the facts are that a spoon engine is hi reving and high compressioned. Turbo would not go well with the engine set up. 🤓
Wow, Yeah, very informative and unlike other videos I’ve seen explaining the elusive “power pocket” and how to access it!
I’ve been trying to tweak my throw since all the power pocket videos have come out, and this is the only one that actually explains clearly what is probably the most important part of the whole concept.. I always tried accelerating from the reach back and I usually failed due to rounding, but this seems to be the answer I needed, well done!
I Don't Have Friends, I Got Family. Thanks Robbie! Ill try this out Saturday and see what happens!
Right on, Robbie C. As they say in golf, "There can be only one fast moment in the swing." The motions and ideas in both sports are so similar.
Thank you Robbie C your videos are understandable. And you illustrate them well.
This is got to be one of the single most best explanations I’ve heard of the power pocket… Thank you so much!
Hey Robbie, we played together a couple years ago at the “compound” tournament. I’m not sure if you remember, but I just wanted to say that this is content you expect to receive behind a paywall. Excellent connection with head placement, acceleration, and shoulder rotation. I will definitely apply this check down next time I’m out at the course! Great work!
No mention of family when you referenced Fast and Furious. I am of disappoint
In 3 years of watching u…prolly bets video yet for me! Thanks!
I am exactly with you on this.
I was working on my form on my deck when I realized I was straining myself and too early in in the throw; so more optimally, I should spread out the exertion throughout and especially at the end of the throw
Great video, I enjoy your perspective and analogies. Even as I progress I find plenty of interesting bits of info in your content!
Super helpful, Robbie! Thanks for this video. My struggle exactly, and I think you nailed this.
Great video. A couple months ago I was struggling with my form, and I just stopped reaching back. What I mean is, I spent about a week or two where the disc was never behind my left hip (RHBH). Lead to some good throws, and I gradually added reachback back into the throw, with more success than I’d had previously
Hey Robbie! Hope you’ve had a chance to throw the AM Stalker. I’ve recently been cracking open the answer to the ‘what starts the rotation’ question. Tristan Tanner and Aaron Gossage have the keys to the answer. For Goose, it’s when he locks his right knee. This naturally initiates the hip rotation that starts the whip crack. For TT, it’s trying to bring both knees together to achieve the same effect. I definitely feel a difference when I lock my right knee back. The rotation just happens without thought.
This video was helpful and was a good explanation of something I have been working on. My day is amazing. I hope that your day is fantastic as well.
I am going to put this to use later today because I know I have a decent reach back...this makes a lot of sense to me tho...thanks Robbie!
Robbie, I spent most of last night laying in bed thinking about this exact issue. Am I not wasting potential by accelerating for a “longer” period? The timing of this vid couldn’t be more spot on.
Re: the pros, you can see this in action with the very slow / high FPS video where their forearm muscles become very flexed but not until they are in the deep pocket and want to fling out. Good thought/video :)
Yep, my biggest pulls have always started slow and then I WHIP those hips and let the arm follow through at the end.
Thanks once again Mr. YT man
Robbie check out Goose's/Ezra's vids the posted yesterday with Schmutz, he is crazy fast at the end of his throw, just like you are talking about.
In addition to accelerating at the right time, I also have to focus on keeping my front shoulder strong so I don't collapse the power pocket, while keeping my elbow loose, with strong grip pressure depending on the throw power. It's kind of a lot to think about, but starting to become second nature the more reps I do.
The rule with the head is “eye on the ball” like a batter, down and perpendicular to your shot. The back shoulder not the front shoulder is the thing that lets your head pull through.
Thank you sir. I am a 2 year player. Have struggled with power. Explains why I throw farther on stand still , everything is slowed down standing still. When I walk up it's so much less power . Timing is accelerated . Stand still is laged
This video came out when I was doing fieldwork. I tried this and I was getting more spin and distance. Now I need to work on the timing to get my accuracy down.
Hi Robbie!
Intro to a BIG DISTANCE video is a throw at 5.4 mph? Just jking, love what you do, keep it up. Not to offend anyone but when I first watched my form it look like the my entire left side had cerebral palsy ,while I was falling foward attempting to spin..
My problem with this thought is that when i try it i feel like I'm rounding more than pulling in a straight line. I'll have to get out to a field tomorrow and try it
I am starting to wonder if you are spying on me!! --- I have been working on the net and I have a special overlay on my net for targeting. Anyway, I had been training for a month and I felt like it was awesome and smooth and would just fly >300' - right.
So, finally I go out yesterday to my local and test what I can do. I was disappointed. Just barely 300' - most were 240' and up.
So, I did improve a bit, 50' or so - but I knew while I was throwing yesterday that my arm was pulling and my hips were not spinning at the right time etc. etc. ad-infinitum/ad-nauseum.
Thinking about it later and analyzing what I was doing - I would summarize it as this:
- 1. I wanted distance so bad that I used muscle and was arm throwing - in essence totally ignoring all the good work I trained on....
- 2. I actually did what you are explaining in todays video - in that, I had lost most of my power before I could rotate - and when I did rotate it felt weak and insignificant.
I am going to test again and this time I will not worry about the distance, but just do the form like I train and see what happens.
(This is a "mind" thing - i.e., wanting to throw far and just scraping the form LOL)
- I was throwing putters (Aviars) and then my entire bag. Not much of a difference between them (for me) - perhaps 30-50' extra. Clearly not what I expected.
As an additional test, I threw from a standstill and hit the same distance as if I ran up. So, I knew something was wrong.
Like you - I put a lot of science and analysis into my game/sport .. thing. 🤣
This is very much like with golf…. Spine angle makes a difference.
One quick tip for you Robbie, i noticed that you turn your head before hand goes through, try to keep it still, head follows hand, not opposite, im pretty sure the throwing speed increase 5mph more after that. Good video tho! 👊🏻
Have you tried just imagining yourself pushing the disc through your biceps/armpit?
There's another issue here though.
You talk way to much. Get to the point, please.