I have the ioniq5 for now 2 years... it's the best car I have ever owned. My last was an Audi Q7 limited edition, and I don't regret it AT ALL ! Build quality is amazing.
@@rozonoemi9374 I won't as long as their design and build quality remains as bad. Only the model S stands out. Tesla cars are ugly to the eye. It's subjective but it's my opinion .
@@francisdebriey3609 You think it is ugly, but millions of people don't think so, however, Yes I like the style of Ionic 5 but not the 6. Tesla is a better vehicle all around.
@@rozonoemi9374 I truly don't care if the entire planet has bad taste. And in terms of efficiency, the ioniq5 is as good as tesla's... almost.. And its build quality is much better
And I was just about to get the new Touareg diesel. Found out the engine has lots of issues. Now trying to decide between the 2024 Camry hybrid and 2024 Ioniq 5 84kwh ;don't have the possibility to charge at home.
I've had my Ioniq 5 Limited for two months and love it. It's a joy to drive - super comfortable, and extremely energy efficient. I went with the RWD for added distance and efficiency. And the safety features are fantastic. And the design elements are cool. Best car I've ever owned.
I have the IONIQ 5 2023 SEL It’s a wonderful car. I love everything about it! So quiet so fast with AWD. Not one problem so far. Love the sensors for parking, backing up and collision avoidance. Truly great! Do I want a Tesla with camera vision only, glass roof,turn signals in steering wheel, no info in front of you,outdated styling,no easy access buttons….No! The only thing is I wish trip charging was easier. Being able to use Tesla superchargers would greatly help.
Are the Electrify America chargers that bad? I've been eyeing a used I5 '23 SEL RWD for 450-500 mile trips from the MD near DC to eastern KY, and I see several EA charging stations along I-81
@@nathandavidhall not as many nor as reliable as Tesla ….also depends on your location. They are great chargers but sometimes not available or working. If you have many near you then don’t worry.
I have your exact (2023) car and this is a very sober comparison. Buy a wireless phone connector (I have a Motorola MA1 Wireless Android @ $50) and phone problem is solved. Also, you can set the driver seat to retract automatically when you open the driver's door. A great egress/ingress feature that doesn't get enough attention.
Love my 2024 ioniq 5 limited! Recently had the highlander hybrid it was great but, haven't paid for fuel for months, free charging for 2 years is awesome! Highly recommend this car.
I was initially opposed to an EV, the Ioniq 5 N changed my mind. While waiting to take delivery I had a Ioniq 5 limited loaner and I liked it too. I have co-workers with Tesla's and inside they are too sterile and boring not to mention the styling hasn't changed.
I love the look on the outside, but the inside just looks cheaper imo. I also thought the screens were strange and the software was laggy so that ruined the experience for me. The Mustang Mach e and Model Y were by far the best experiences out of the EVs I tested, but the Tesla was just a superior experience so I went with that. No shade on this car cause I like it alot, but it just wasn't for me. The only gripe I have with my car is the suspension is tight, but it's not a dealbreaker. Build quality is great, the only thing that rattles is my daughters car seat
The Ioniq 5 is definitely a nice looking car, but for us here in NZ, the Ioniq 5 58kWh is $10k NZD more than the Model Y RWD, has less range than the MY, less cargo space, no heated seats or steering wheel. no heat pump. Hyundai and Kia have no app here in NZ so it's not possible to pre-heat the cabin or monitor the charging. No over the air updates, in fact Hyundai NZ have been very reluctant to offer software updates at all and don't do them automatically at the service. For all of these reasons, we bought a Model Y instead of an Ioniq 5
With the Tesla you need to adapt to how it functions. You don’t have the knobs and switches and manual vents that most cars have. When the Y gets a refresh it will most likely have gotten rid of the indicator stalk and drive stalk in favor of buttons on the steering wheel and controls on the screen. People say you get used to it. You do voice controls, you set it and forget it etc. Maybe. I like the direction that Hyundai is taking with the I5 where they have fixed every design flaw that people complained about with the 2025 refresh. Adapting the car to you rather than you adapting to the car. In the end it’s choices. On a lot of levels the Y is a good choice, but I’m very glad that we have lots of other choices. It’s already brought down the price of the Y for everyone that wants one.
Sure, if you can't adapt to technology and change, stick with Hyundai. I see no use in buttons. I can already control the A/C and radio on the steering wheel. Shy do I need additional redundant buttons on the dash? Hyundai lets you turn off regen braking for people who don't understand the concept of one pedal driving. It's far superior to using the brakes. It would be better not to give them the option and in a couple days they would get used to one pedal driving and would get better range. People bashed Apple when they got rid of the disk drive and dvd drive. Turned out they were right to do it. I haven't tried a car with no stalks yet. So, can't comment on that until I do. However, set it and forget it applies to most functions on the car. Getting rid of physical buttons is why Tesla can fix so many issues with over the air updates.
@@ymcpa73 "I can already control the A/C and radio on the steering wheel." You control the a/c with the steering wheel? Really? How? "Hyundai lets you turn off regen braking for people who don't understand the concept of one pedal driving. It's far superior to using the brakes. It would be better not to give them the option and in a couple days they would get used to one pedal driving and would get better range." Incorrect. Using regen when not needed wastes energy. Tesla's setup is the lazy option, and now they took away any settings for regen level. Hyundai's and Kia's only use the brakes if you are in an emergency OR you are slowing down at around 5mph. "People bashed Apple when they got rid of the disk drive and dvd drive. Turned out they were right to do it." Apple did not start the trend to get rid of the HDD and the optical drive. However we can credit them with the anti consumer trend of putting laptop batteries inside laptops making it harder to replace when needed, and also non replaceable ram and storage. "Getting rid of physical buttons is why Tesla can fix so many issues with over the air updates." You mean the bullsht of selling cars before they are ready *cough* cyberturd *cough*.
Complete agree with you. I really don’t like manufacturers that give you features and then tell you it solves a problem or pain point you had. I call total BS on Tesla for that. Yes, I give them 💯 credit for bringing the full benefits of the electric motor over a combustion engine to the masses. Electric motor is infinitely better as a traction motor on any vehicle. Batteries are yet to catch up but that’s ok, they will. But trying to to convince me that I don’t need info display in front of of divers eye line, or I do t need quick access controls like indicator or other stuff, and I have to navigate a screen… I’m sorry but that is a pain point for them, not the customer. It makes it cheaper to make! As a user of a car, that’s only an issue at purchase time, once I drive it, all the things they tell me are gains for me, are not. I’m sorry but any Tesla fan that tells me it is is falling for a bias they have. And that’s cool for you. But if you understand even the basics of Human Factors analysis for safety systems, you will see how BS the direction Tesla has gone with user inputs. Other wise, great cars. I prefer the Ioniq direction where it keeps things that have been proven to just work over time and there is no need from the consumer for adding or removing them. Great review by the way. Thanks
I have the exact car(2022) you tested. I drive very conservatively and get 290 to 305 miles of range when the temperature is between 50 and 80 degrees F..
The lack of a frunk is kinda of a bummer. More importantly, a dual motor Hyundai costs $60k while a better performing, longer range Tesla Y costs $50k, and for most buyers is eligible for a $7,500 point of purchase rebate. So, $60k for a car without a frunk, can't (yet) use the Tesla Supercharger network, is substantially slower, is substantially less efficient, and has substantially less range than a car with superior technology that can be purchased for $42,500. Seems that you have to really hate Elon Musk to make the decision to buy the Hyundai.
What are you talking about that it's substantially slower!?!?! Model Y LR Dual motor is roughly 5s to 0-100 and a I5 dual motor is closer to 4.5s. In regards to the price, its 48k vs 53,5k. For the rebate, blame your backwards gov. We get the same rebate on both cars up north. Both are 65k CAD without the rebate here. The i5 also charges substantially faster than the Tesla.
Just for those outside US watching this, notably in Europe. Within the EU, everything is CCS2, every single new car, since this a a required standard now. Every single poublic incentive for installing charging station,, implies CCS2, and open to every cars. Regulations have made mandatory for service station on speedway to install fast charging point. These need to be open to any cars. So the Tesla charging network advantage does no exist apart from the mind of people who did not realise how the regulations changed during the past 10 years or so.
I am going to forgo getting a Tesla and get an updated Ionic5 this fall. They are updating some of your negative features such as buttons for climate controls. I will be charging at home mostly. Thanks for the review.
There is a reason the Model Y was the #1 selling car in the world in 2023 and is likely to be the #1 selling car in the U.S. in 2024. That said, im grateful there are plenty of EV options now.
Also, the large majority of Tesla superchargers are 400V so they would charge the 800V Ioniq 5 slowly, and with the Ioniq 5 having the connector on the right rear side, you either won't be able to connect to the charger or you'd have to p*** someone off taking up two spaces. And with Tesla's boss being who he is, I don't see any reason to go charge there.
Hyundai/Kia access to Tesla Superchargers is currently limited to “Magic dock” stations. Also charging speeds are compromised due to 800V architecture on IONIQ 5 and EV6. Should get access to V3 Superchargers by Q4 or Q1 2025 at the latest.
But how many V3 superchargers are there or will be coming? (sorry don't know much about Tesla's, except horror story's of how much repair cost can get)
@@flolou8496 V2 Superchargers are 150KW and V3's are 250KW. About 15,000 Tesla chargers (V3) will be available to Non-Tesla EV's who are partnering with Tesla. Currently, Ford and Rivian have access to Superchargers. As these EV's have a CCS1 port, a Tesla (NACS)-to-CCS1 adapter is needed to use these chargers. In addition, Tesla is beginning to deploy its V4 superchargers which will also be accessible.
Not adjusted, but Non-Tesla EV’s will need an adapter. The adapter connects to the Tesla charger then the other end connects to the CCS1 port on the non-Tesla EV. Starting in 2025, non-Tesla manufacturers will begin producing EV’s with a NACS (Tesla) port, at which point the adapter will no longer be needed
I tested both the Ionic 5 and Tesla Y and the Y has better range, quicker, more room, a much more comfortable seat for me and is much cheaper so I bought the Y. I did like the styling in the Hyundai better, the suspension felt better and it was more quiet.
I own this car's twin, after driving a Tesla for 6 years, and LOVE it. Everything you've reported echoes my observations. My only frustration is waiting for Tesla to give the green light to Hyundai to use Superchargers. As usual, they have fallen way behind with the J3400 rollout.
@@EatSleepDrive The Model Y is the superior vehicle, and it's not close. If you're confident I'm wrong, let's debate the issue, and we'll see how well it goes for you.
@@kenhiett5266 No life Tesla/Musk cult fanboys voluntarily and aggressively doing their marketing job for free is 1 is the funniest things to emerge from the social media aspect of the car industry
Love the Ioniq 5's look but I went with the Y for the price and financing and the lack of a wiper in a northern climate with such a vertical window in the Ioniq.
I'm surprised you would review this now, week they have literally released the 2025 model and can be driven at your local dealer. The battery is now 84kw, they have actual button shortcuts for the heating and other things, apple car play, android auto and dark surrounds on the display, plus OTA updates
Thanks for the bike test! That was crucial for me. But unfortunately it looks like you can't get 2 bikes in there. The EV9 is way too expensive; wish there was a proper boxy cargo moving electric SUV out there.
Roof rack or top rack. I just brought home a new tv in mine. I LOVE this car! It is the closest thing to my Lexus LS 400, I would like a rear wiper, the brake lights to light when on like the Subaru (do I know why people are thinking I am braking). A sunroof might be nice but it is so big inside and the roof height I really don’t notice it. This is a great car!
@@vecamiolo My i5 has a normal Thule bike rack mounted where my towbar goes. The one drawback is that you have to lower the bike rack to open the boot (or the trunk as you guys call it!) so you might want to disable the auto boot opening.
Reasonable comments on the whole. I feel both cars are great. Main criticism of the model y was build quality. 2023 models and newer are very different from the older. Better suspension, quieter and build quality is as good as any brand including the Ioniq 5 from Hyundai. OK I can’t talk for US built. But both Chinese and German built model Ys are doing good. I have a model Y and a friend the Ioniq 5 both excellent and honestly it’s a taste thing. Range is fine on both and 90% of the time we charge both cars at home.
I have the Ioniq 5 77,4kW RWD 19" and top line 2023. RWD and 19" for maximum range since I think the RWD has already alot of power an enough for most situations. It's really good EV and I'm happy with my decision. I agree with most points but not about the Bose soundsystem. It is ok and I'm, fine with that but for sure not great. Btw all E-GMP cars have limited charging speeds on Telsa SCs. I think only Genesis is an exception. Like on a v3 you get abit below 100kW max. At least in europe thats not a big problem, since there are many different charging station all around. But I would avoid Tesla SCs with the Ioniq 5/6 and Kia EV6/9. Because the best about the Ioniq 5 is the charging speed. On my last trip I did a quick stop at Ionity with almost 50% SoC left and still got 240kW up to 58% and after that it was still 180kW. There is no Tesla that is able to charge fast at such high SoCs. That makes it so flexible compared to many other EVs where you should reach a charger with a very low SoC. Best below 10%. A Model X was next to me that day with 40% and was only charging with 140kW... The Model X is twice the price of the Ioniq 5. He was standing there when I came and was still there when I left. The new MJ25 has a 84kWh battery, wireless car play and AA and buttons for the seat heating/vantilation and I think also the steering wheel. They also replace the chip (Gen5W) for the infotainmaintsystem with a new and much faster chip (ccNC) which is also used in the Ioniq 5 N. That also comes with a better UI.
My 2022 Ioniq 5 AWD had battery failure after 10 months and I ended up getting a lemon buyback from Hyundai. I probably would have kept it but my dealership was terrible in dealing with the repair. They had no idea how to work on it and communication was zero during the 2.5 month process, I had to constantly call to get a straight answer about what was going on. Also, don’t even think about going on a road trip in it. The network is a complete joke to fast charge it. I went with the model Y mostly for the convenience of supercharging but found out that the service experience is infinitely better here where I live as well. I did like how the I5 handled and accelerated better and it is a better looking car. The MY has the I5 beat on its tech and convenience by country mile. Everything is integrated, I don’t miss Apple car play at all because all of my favorite apps are in the infotainment. The sentry mode and blind spot cameras that come on when turning as well as the integrated dash cam are great. Hyundai is still new to the EV market so it’ll get better over time and maybe the access to the supercharger network will prove to be useful too.
what a time to be alive. Nissan has build quality like hyundai back in the 90s (and tesla). While modern hyundai has build quality like nissan back in the early 90s, and modern honda build quality. From me, a honda fan
My 2022 Model Y LR had no fit and finish problems from day one. I'm not sure how many of that same model in that same year were delivered with F&F problems but my impression is that by 2022 Tesla was building their cars to very high standards just on F&F. As to styling, everyone has their own opinion about these cars. The main difference between the Tesla style, interior and exterior, is that it is intentionally a minimalist look. Most other EV manufacturers stick to the older traditional style with exterior trim and body form elements. Also the interior of the traditional style includes a number of physical controls for things like climate, lights, turn signals and A/V selections. That is an intentional choice on the part of the non-Tesla EVs as a way to ease the buying public into the EV world without being too radical. It is certainly a valid choice and seems to be working to some degree as we move from the early adopters being dominated by Tesla toward the more wait-and-see customers coming into the market lately. It's all a matter of individual choice which is still the main force in product preference.
Good point about early adopters. I still don’t see what the minimalist interior has to do with EV. Not related at all. It’s a Tesla choice. And I think it’s less about overall style and more about cost and easy of manufacture. So I really don’t like the function of their approach, I like the look but not at the expense of all controls being on a big screen.
I'm in Quebec and we have the Ioniq 5 2024 ultimate blue lucid (and after that we even got a Kona 2024 ultimate ev as we got sold forever on hyundai and ev)...and here i see more and more Ioniq 5... it's because finally we have stock. I mean I got mine in Feb 2024 and it was the only one for a lot of km arround...Now they are popping everywhere. And let 's face it with all the issues Tesla is having no wounder people are going for other brands (and since Toyota/Subaru car is awfull same with the rest of Japanese cars to a lesser degree)...the Ioniq 5 is getting a lot of well deserved attention.
It is better than the Model Y. But once the new Model Y comes out, that may change. I had one of these and found its steering too light, even in Sports mode. I now have the new Model 3, and its quality is significantly improved over the current Model Y and previous Model 3. It’s a lot nicer to drive, with very nice and tight steering, suspension that is a great balance of sportiness and comfort, vs, the Model Y’s very bumpy suspension, and the Ioniq 5’s very soft suspension. Overall, I’m happier with it than the Ioniq 5. I believe that once Tesla refreshes the Model Y, they will bring the same changes such as improved suspension and quality to it. Still, I applaud Hyundai overall for their efforts, and if I could afford one right now, I’d be driving the Genesis GV60 performance.
I came for the bike test! This was the car I wanted to get, but it was a bit more expensive at the time and my wife didn’t like the looks. Anxious to try it with my Kia Niro EV! But unlike you, I am very willing to take the front wheel off to save my back!
No EV sounds like a sewing machine, which is actually a very mechanical sound. Some EVs and hybrids emit a kind of haunted refrigerator whine when at slow speeds or "idling" at a stop light. But none of them sound like a sewing machine.
Ioniq 5 from outside is very nice 👍. Don’t like the interior and feels a lot cheaper than Tesla. Screens are awful, lane keeping is trash and user experience is far from Tesla. No car is perfect and both are good, Tesla and Hyundai but I would choose Tesla over Hyundai in a heartbeat 😄
Love my car it’s AWD, I’ve gotten a charge of 300 miles one time , I guess the weather conditions were just right, I always charge to 80% and get 240 miles on the average
I recently went shopping for my first EV, and expected to go with the Ioniq 5 (great reviews), but ended up getting the model Y…. And honestly it wasn’t a hard decision. The model Y beats it in battery life, luxury features, tech, more space, and (this shocked me) better price. I like the Ioniq 5 charging time and look, but price being equal, I still would have gone with the Tesla. What shocked me was how much more expensive the Ioniq 5 limited was than the model Y. MSRP was 59k, vs Tesla model Y all wheel drive was 48k (and performance 51 if you think that’s a more fair comp). Maybe Ioniq 5 was the better priced car one or two years ago, but the model Y has come down in price so much that it’s just the better purchase IMO. We’ll see how it holds up- I had a Tucson a few years back and it was a good car. Teslas I’ve heard aren’t super sturdy, but it seems really well built so far. But the price difference is kinda ridiculous. Ioniq 5 needed to be 7K cheaper for me to seriously consider it.
@@marketbuy how is it minimalist? It feels every bit as luxurious as my last Lexus (probably more so because of the advanced tech). Its performance (0-60 speed and total range) is better than the Ioniq 5. I researched like crazy before buying, so I’m genuinely curious what is minimalist or cheap about it.
@@sbdc83 If you want premium, take a test drive on the Nissan Ariya Evolve+ trim. The drive is buttersmooth and has many features that the Model Y and Ioniq5 don’t have. It does not have the best infotainment in its class but the drive and features set it apart from the competition. No other competitor has panoramic moonroof that can open and close PLUS it includes an electric sunshade cover. Ariya has HUD and aerial bird eye view camera as well as rear view illuminated camera. Tesla tends to overhype their range. My Ariya Evolve+ has 87 kw battery. EPA is 289 miles. I usually get 310-330 miles on 95% charge. This is based on 70% city driving and 30% hwy driving. I just bought the 2024 Ioniq 5 SEL. Between the Ioniq5 SEL and Ariya Evolve-, I believe the Ariya is way better. Hyundai has great infotainment system and great battery. This where Ioniq5 shine. Other than that, Ariya is more refined with Japanese build quality. Plus, Ariya owners can use Tesla Superchargers. Please note, I’m only comparing Evolve+ vs Ioniq SEL. They are both in the same price segment at $48K. I stand by my statement that Model Y is cheap minimalist. You get what you pay for. All you get is an iPad on wheels.
@@BP13156 maybe- I suspect those issues are overblown. Ive heard complaints on the internet about that, but everyone I know personally with one has never had those issues.
They need to release new dashboard layouts in over-the-air updates. There are no seating positions in which I can see all the UI that I need to. And even if there were, I should have to move the my body to see what’s on the screen when it’s as easy as rearranging some pixels.
I'm intrigued that you were able to fit a large mountain bike in the back without removing the front wheel. I wonder how well my extra large hybrid bike would fit.
Only thing I wish is they make the right side screen adjustable, can be bending towards the driver, because I have to lean over to touch the furthest icons on the screen.
All new car companies have build quality problems. Tesla is actually a stand out for how quickly they've overcome these issues. Hyundai's were a lot worse for the first couple of decades.
I test drove the Model Y and the Ioniq 5 to make my purchase decision. I enjoyed both, ultimately went for the Model Y for the following reasons: 1)Longer range than the Ioniq, 2)Waaaaaaaay more cargo and frunk space, 3)Infinitely better software, 4)It feels like an EV, not an ICE car, 5)Regular over the air (OTA) updates, so it's always getting better 6)Tesla is American owned and run, 7)I prefer the Model Y design aesthetic - my feeling is that Ioniq might date quite badly, 8)There were so many screens and buttons in the Ioniq (including for the rear vision mirrors - absolutely ridiculous screens) and 9)I've owned a Hyundai previously - it was ok...honestly...ok...but not awesome...had some reliability issues and felt a bit cheap overall.
I test drove the Model Y, Mach E, EV6, and Ioniq 5. Ended up getting the Ioniq. Reasons? The Hyundai has less body lean and handles bad roads better (roads here in IL are not good). The iPad in the middle of the console thing for Tesla and Ford is ugly. Sorry, but it is. Interior build quality is excellent, but it was for the others as well (except for the EV6, which felt cheap). The Ioniq charges faster. Two years of free 30 min Level 3 fast charging with Electrify America with access to the Tesla network coming next year. 0-60 speed differences are negligible (at least for what I need). Remote parking feature is a party trick, but still cool. Tesla has better software and more frequent OTA updates so they definitely win in that area. Don't like that Model Y's are everywhere here. Pricing differences on the 24' model year are not as much as people here are saying. My OTD price (including taxes and fees) on my Limited after dealer discounts and incentives was $51K.
Ah... 2024 model Y are the same price as a Camry now with 0.99-1.99 apr that qualifies to full $7500 off msrp.. sorry, but you overpaid for your Huandai..
IDK what Teslas you have in the US, but my German-built 2023 Model Y has 0 build quality issues, and the materials feel very nice. That's not only my opinion, but every other skeptic I got in the car who already had an opinion on Tesla build quality. 15 minutes later, they all said that the build quality issues everyone talks about on the internet are BS.
He's just jumping on the Musk hate band waggon. Theirs a good reason why Tesla sells 50% of the EV's in the USA and why they even try to claim Tesla is losing... Of course they wouldn't be staying at 80 forever, nor will they stay at 50%, more an more sales will be EV's if they would have 20% in 10 years tie, that would be insanely good. The Model Y is cheaper and offers a lot more, for less money, too spec another EV to what comes as standard on the Tesla's the price difference increases significantly. I'm also European, i've owned a M3 from 2019 and a 2021 MY, you can definitely tell the 2021 is a lot better built quality. So it's not like Tesla's were always built as great as they are today, I've driven the M3 revamp and it's increased again, but the difference is less than between the 2019 and 2021 Tesla's. People just like to shit on Tesla, but a model Y beats this car on everything, cargo space, interior space, frunk, acceleration (you can buy an acceleration boost on the model Y, for a lot less than the price difference that makes it faster), charging, charging infrastructure, tech,...
Hyundai started making EV for 30+ yrs. Kudos to them! It finally pays them off after all these years. Some ppl buy Tesla because they think Tesla is the first EV company. US has their own charging station, it might be the advantage for them. But for others, doesn't even matter.
I'm not sure why the Model Y is so popular. I lived with one for 9 days last Summer on a trip to the East coast. I put about 1000 miles on the car in that time going from NYC to Connecticut, Boston, over to Ithaca, NY and back to NYC and lots of driving around in those cities. The model Y was a huge disappointment and it had nothing to do with it being an EV. Main disappointments: 1) Yes, the build quality was not great. The fit and finish was not what I would expect from a leading selling model. The door alignment and hood alignment was off. 2) The air conditioner broke down on the 7th day of the trip. This was during a 90+ degree stretch in NYC/NJ. Really infuriating. 3) Even though we exclusively charged at the Tesla Superchargers, I was not super impressed with charging speeds. 4) The car had very dangerous "phantom braking" on 3 different occasions on the trip. The car did NOT have FSD but we were using the active driver aids like lane keeping. once the car braked at highway speeds for ABSOLUTELY no reason. We were lucky to not get rear-ended since the braking was abrupt. 5) I spent some hours in the rear seat while my son drove the car. Front seats were quite comfortable. Rear seats were not at all comfortable. Very hard. Honestly, I think Hyundai has a much better reputation now than Tesla and this car being less expensive and made by a company with a lot longer history of top notch manufacturing makes this real competition for the Model Y. Another nice fact is that Hyundai will start making this car in the USA!
I like my modY performance. Mod Y is a perfect EV. Extremly efficient, fast and a high charging infra plus the best software . I can transport easy 2 roadbikes.
I have M3 and build quality interior and exterior are excellent so not sure what model Y or 3 you have driven? Maybe American build ones maybe?. Mine is from Shanghai factory and quality there is excellent.
After 2016 Tesla model X, I told myself I will never go back to Tesla due to poor build quality. After experiencing 2 Rivian, and MachE, I went back to Tesla again. It’s software and FSD is unmatched. Build quality has improved so much as well. If Hyundai can give us FSD, I will buy Hyundai EVs.
I have bought 2 Model Y LRs and feel that many things you say are not accurate. The buils quality ride and noise are all superb on my 2024 and the suspension. is really nice. I am really tired of the buttons are better arguement. People made that about android and iPhone and it was bullshit that you cannot learn to use screen only no buttons so easily and once you do it gives the car company so many options for improving the user experience over time which Tesla is really good at. Saying that people are used to buttons and so we should never take them aways is a poor attitude leaving us stuck with fewer innovation options. I do agree that the cargo space is the Model Y is not ideal and is large but badly shaped and limits things you can put in.
Using buttons in a car and on a phone is not comparable at all. When you use phone, you're supposed to look at the screen. When you're driving, you're supposed to look at the road and push a button without having to look for it. Having to delve into setting on a tablet for every little thing is not evolution, it's dangerous. And that does not apply only to Tesla, but to all carmakers switching from physical buttons.
@@rozonoemi9374 For one, in Europe not everyone speaks english. Second, it's still faster and more convenient to use buttons. And third, voice recognition is not always reliable.
@@jklepekVoice commands are localized in your language... and for most things you need while driving you don't need to delve into menues. In fact most is done with the Buttons on the Sterling wheel and the rest with one or two clicks on screen.
I own this exact same car. Agreed on most points of your review. I must disagree with your opinion on the Bose sound system, which is very bad in my opinion. Midrange needs to be cranked all the way down in Settings for it to be barely OK, and that just plain sucks. The Harman Kardon sound system in the Kia Soul EV I had before this was sooooo much better, it’s not even funny.
Yup, the audio on my full load i5 is no where even close to the Tesla system. Heck, even my factory HK system in my gen 1 MINI Cooper was significantly better than the Ioniq 5 audio system. The review has a strong shill vibe to it .
The reason there is no “one touch” windows up for any seat other than the driver’s seat is due to safety. Before these power windows were regulated. Children could get their heads caught in a rear window going up. Several children died from this. Now it is not an option for closing windows. I think some cars do offer one touch down though for all windows.
Less screens and more buttons would be nice in my mind (sorry, but I really hate touch screens in cars). But looking at this, this to me seems the much better overall package - Hyundai's really nailed it. The questions I have regard serviceability (am I allowed to take it to a mechanic of my choice) and esp. can Hyundai revoke paid for features when ever they feel like (and is Hyundai jumping on a subscription model for the ability to use things like heated seats).
Great! Now try to drive from Michigan to Florida with it in less than 24 hours. I’ve done that many times in my 2016 Tesla Model S. The Supercharger network is dependable and I’ve never had to wait for an open stall. Also, since it’s a 2016 model, I don’t have to PAY for Supercharging. That’s right - since I don’t stay in a hotel, and I pay zippo, nada, zilch for charging, the trip is free. The Tesla Autopilot makes it so driver fatigue is greatly reduced. And I, also, can fit my 21-Speed bike in the back without taking off either wheel (Tesla Model S is a hatchback). And it drives like a dream with a truly amazing music sound system! Not sure why I would buy anything else, particularly if I can transfer my free, unlimited Supercharging for life as Tesla recently offered. I like the Ioniq 5 and what Hyundai is doing with EV’s - wish the Big 3 in America were doing more like Hyundai. But IMHO, Tesla is still the only choice for EV’s if you want a car you can use like a gas car and go on worry-free road trips due to their robust and highly dependable Supercharger Network. I know Tesla is partially opening up their Supercharger network to other car makers - but not all of them. I want access to ALL of them. Great review!
You are comparing a model S that new would have cost you about 80k to an Ionic 5. Yes, you have “free” charging. That is not offered on models in the Ionic 5 price class.
@@keithv3767 True. I don’t know what an Ioniq 5 costs. If I trade in my Model S, I’ll probably get a Model Y. I assume that’s more apples to apples? Everything else would then apply, I assume? One thing that Hyundai isn’t: an American car company, right? I like to buy American if I can.
@@Widdermaker They're not American, but the vehicles are built in the US. They're assembled in their plant in Savannah, GA. They're more American than a Ford, which are usually made in Mexico.
@@orangejuche Well, where’s Hyundai incorporated? Yes, they build cars here, mainly because of laws that would tariff them out of competitiveness in America if they didn’t. But the revenue ultimately goes to a South Korean company. I have nothing against S. Korea (or any foreign corp!), I just like to support American companies making products in America whenever I can. EV’s are the future - so, I want to support an American company in this nascent industry. I also don’t like the fact that GM & Ford get many, if not most, of their subassemblies & components built in other countries and then just assemble the final gas or EV car product here. Tesla is the most American car product you can buy per American University’s Kogod School of Business which did a study on this. God bless Hyundai for moving the EV ball forward and I’d encourage everyone to consider them, too, if you don’t like Tesla. And, of course, consider Ford & GM. The main thing is, don’t listen to the media FUD. Try an EV for yourself, people - you’re gonna love ‘em!! Keep in mind, though, that the most robust & dependable road trip charging network is the Tesla Supercharger network. Although, for most people living in their private home, 95% of the time you just plug in at home. It’s been over a year since I last used a Supercharger!
Model Y is $15,000+ cheaper (with 7,500 credit), has much more cargo space, more efficiency, better security/infotainment and a functional charging network. Come on now, It's not even close.
Well wanted to like this video but in my opinion is very bs towards Ioniq 5. When you said that they have almost the same efficiency you lost me right there. Model Y is about 15% more efficient. Thats not to dismiss. Ioniq 5 vs Model Y in MPGe: combined 99 vs 117 city 110 vs 122 Highway 88 vs 112 Also having access eventually to supercharger is just a nice back up to have because superchargers currently do not support voltages higher than 500. Therefore e-gmp platform EVs like Ioniq 5 will charge at superchargers at around 100kW only. In other words doubling pretty much the charging time. Also not to say at much higher cost per kWh.
Depends on the trim. The long range RWD Ioniq 5 has MPGe combined 114, city 132, and highway 98. And yes, the e-gmp cars won’t charge the fastest on Tesla’s lower voltage superchargers. But it will hold that 100 kW all the way from 10% to 80%. It would probably take less than 35 minutes.
Sure the Tesla is ok...but if I were picking up an EV tomorrow in this price range, no question I'd be going with the Hyundai Ioniq 5. Place a charger at home and it would more than cover my daily commutes. The petrol SUV could handle the summer road trip duties...
Comment about range: the screen showed that you've done 200 miles in ~ 7:00 hours. That's less than 30mph on average. And at such speeds EVs are efficient. If you drive 70-75mph, the efficiency would drop to 2.8-3.0 m/kWt. And the range would decrease. Even if timer shows when the car was started and you drove only 4-5 hours, that translates into 50mph - speeds too slow for Highways. EVs are great options for city riding - I really enjoy mine Genesis GV70, but highway range slightly disappoints.
800V architecture on the Ioniq 5 means it can charge a lot faster than the Tesla. This means even though range and efficiency are better on the Tesla, the total charge time for a long trip is shorter in the Ioniq 5. In Europe we have plenty 300kW chargers you can use for this. However if you have to use Tesla's chargers (I understand the non-Tesla networks are kinda sparse in the US?), then the Ioniq 5 charge speed is quite limited there, because the Tesla chargers don't support 800V charging.
Just drove my I5 from Boonville California to Mobile Alabama and paid 0 dollars for charging on the electrify America network…And and had no problem finding charging stations.
@@cesarmaldonado8946 quick question because I’m cheap, how did you not pay? I mean, I’m assuming the hotels had free charging? Or is it because there are free charging stations at certain locations in the states? Please let me know for my next trip down there. But I wish there was was a map that shows which charging stations are free at different locations. I would much rather hang out at the mall for an hour to get a free charger then spend a half an hour in the middle of nowhere, waiting to pay a lot at a gas station.
@ that was not quick lol but electrify America stations are free for the first 2 years… didn’t stay at any hotel… slept in the back of the car… very comfortable btw… lol
@@cesarmaldonado8946 I see now. Yeah they don’t offer that in Canada yet., Nor for Kia vehicles either. But yeah, I can’t complain. We have good subsidies in Quebec. 12000 dollars off when we combine federal and provincial incentives!
Sorry the model y and even the performance is a way better deal. Not to mention the supercharger network. Check the depreciation on a Kia or Hyundai EV after one year. They are way over priced.
With ownership experience of both Tesla and i5 I have to say both don't have great build quality. I can see a seat upholstery defect on the driver' seat near the left shoulder which has a bubble - that is fabric is lifted away from the foam. My car has the same issue. This is a common problem and Hyundai is very hit and miss (more miss) when it comes to fixing it. In my experience, the mediocre Tesla service is better than the poor Hyundai service. Within 1 day of ownership, they told me the bubble was wear and tear. i5s have rampant AC issues. Think 6 service visits bad. Honestly, the i5 is better in terms of content and subjectively with styling but worse in quality, driving dynamics, interface, and service. Tesla has huge gaps in multiple areas but the overall the Tesla ownership experience is better than Hyundai.
I couldn't buy a car that does not have a decent autopilot that works on all roads as I use this feature every single drive. With Tesla's system now basically at Level 5 and improving, it is hard to justify buying anything else IMO. No one else has anything close to it. If you do not have experience with this feature, I'm sure you may be tempted to overlook it .. a classic case of "not knowing what you don't know".
I'd never buy a Tesla. Poor build quality, poor paint quality, the yoke is lame, no physical buttons, no turn signal stalk, and you can't even adjust the vents manually. NO THANKS.
@@Galastin Cybertruck - possibly true, I could agree with that. Although I haven't driven it myself since it isn't available in my market. But this video is about Model Y. Which has really good build quality the last 2-3 years, has stalks, no yoke and paint can be quite good with the multicoat options..
@@OffgridApartment - Actually, manufactures do care, as they compete for business. But here's a news flash for you: Nobody cares about your irrelevant snarky comments.
The model y looks way cooler. The frunk on that thing is a joke. No glass roof. Why do you want all those buttons inside? It looks cluttered and not nearly as clean and modern as a y. I don't get it unless you've been brainwashed by the media to hate Elon. Why bring emotions into such a large dollar purchase?
This reviewer hasn't driven a model Y built in the last few years. Either that or he is being dishonest. A Teslas Y has many flaws, but compared to other EVs, it's mainly styling, interior, and reliance on touch screen functionality. An Ioniq 5 is a worse EV in all the ways that make an EV distinct from other vehicles. If you don't like a Tesla, buy a Rivian or avoid EVs.
Design and styling are so personal - I would maintain that the styling of the Model Y is no more/less polarizing than the styling of the Hyundai Ioniq 5 - so that’s not really a reason that it is a better choice in general - for you personally perhaps. Think there are enough hard facts to make your point with than going with styling as the lead in.
The Model Y is now the practical choice due to price and capability. However I have driven one a few times and the only thing I liked was the horsepower. I love the styling of the I5 and it checks all of my boxes. I wouldn’t buy the Y in any case as it just doesn’t appear to me but when buying a Y you have to be okay with putting money in Musk’s pocket when he has made himself into such a political figure.
Yes, I hate Musk's political view, but he makes some of the best Tech in the industry & what is good for my pocket, is good for me. I just wish he would shut up about his backward political views.
I love the Ioniq 5. The look is fantastic. I wanted to get one but there history is not good at all. Loads of issues and recalls and the fact that you can steal one quite easily made me look at other EV models instead sadly. Look up other UA-cam channels on the Ioniq 5 and you will be surprised on how many issues. The Ioniq guy, Cars jubilee, etc. ICCU fuses keep popping, rear hatch clanking, charging ports overheating, NO REAR WIPER ( that is a MUST and Hyundai has FINALLY smartened up and put one on the 2025 models….about fing time ) and very bad service is what made me look elsewhere for a replacement for my BoltEV. Not to mention again the ease that people are able to steal them using “gameboys”. Ioniq 5 is a great looking and great performance ev….but Hyundai needs to do more.
The real ICCU issue (faulty welding) only affected a few cars from 2021 and were fixed in a recall. There have been a lot of cases of 12v batteries failing but this has been mitigated by a software update (limiting the frequency that Bluelink can be remotely accessed), and basically if your 12v dies you just need to replace it (preferably with an AGM battery rather than a lead-acid - and the 2025 comes with AGM as standard). I had mine replaced on warranty and haven't had any of the the other issues you mention. It's really a fantastic car.
Teska model Y " if you love your family and kids you will not buy anything other than a tesla" - Thatcham research after testing 5 star safety rated cars. Teslas have safety features which other oems simply cannot provide. So much fud on build quality. When Sandy Munro says it is as good as anything coming out of Germany, you better believe it. More fud with your reference to market share , which is just maths. They are the best selling car because they are the best.
Kia EV6 has buttons for seat heating/ventilating, for me it is the better car of these two. I also don't like the white display border. In the back EV6 also has one-touch-windows controls. I don't get why Hyundai didn't want that. Obviously it is possible in the sister model EV6
Our m3 doesn’t squeak nor rattle. I don’t like the artificial sound the ionic makes at low speeds. Ruins the quiet drive at low speeds especially when coming up to wildlife in a park.
Autonomy will come while I am driving my next car. I would never buy a normal car, if a Tesla could become kind of „sentient“ over the next years. I believe with 60%, that this happens. There is a 60% chance that my car will become worth a lot more. There is a 1% chance of retrofitting some of the other cars - doesn‘t look like you can slam cameras on there afterwards.
Estate version, please. Longer, more vertical back, and seats folding completely flat. Tow hook and roof railings. All in one car. Like the lost ancient knovledge of car manufacturers from 20 years ago.
I have the ioniq5 for now 2 years... it's the best car I have ever owned. My last was an Audi Q7 limited edition, and I don't regret it AT ALL ! Build quality is amazing.
Have you owned a Tesla?
@@rozonoemi9374 I won't as long as their design and build quality remains as bad. Only the model S stands out. Tesla cars are ugly to the eye. It's subjective but it's my opinion .
@@francisdebriey3609 You think it is ugly, but millions of people don't think so, however, Yes I like the style of Ionic 5 but not the 6. Tesla is a better vehicle all around.
@@rozonoemi9374 I truly don't care if the entire planet has bad taste. And in terms of efficiency, the ioniq5 is as good as tesla's... almost.. And its build quality is much better
And I was just about to get the new Touareg diesel. Found out the engine has lots of issues. Now trying to decide between the 2024 Camry hybrid and 2024 Ioniq 5 84kwh ;don't have the possibility to charge at home.
Fyi, the 2025 PE for ioniq 5 adds seat ventilation and heating buttons as well as wireless android auto and Apple car play. And an 84Kwh battery.
This is the one I'm keeping my eye on.
And a rear wiper! FINALLY!!!!!
Big size Frunk?😃
@@rozonoemi9374 no that one doesn't happen yet but tbh frunk is a bit overrated if you have an excellent trunk
@@rozonoemi9374What are you looking to put in a frunk that it needs to be big?
I've had my Ioniq 5 Limited for two months and love it. It's a joy to drive - super comfortable, and extremely energy efficient. I went with the RWD for added distance and efficiency. And the safety features are fantastic. And the design elements are cool. Best car I've ever owned.
I have the IONIQ 5 2023 SEL
It’s a wonderful car. I love everything about it! So quiet so fast with AWD. Not one problem so far. Love the sensors for parking, backing up and collision avoidance. Truly great! Do I want a Tesla with camera vision only, glass roof,turn signals in steering wheel, no info in front of you,outdated styling,no easy access buttons….No! The only thing is I wish trip charging was easier. Being able to use Tesla superchargers would greatly help.
I'm looking forward to the Ioniq 5 with the built-in NACS charing port later this year.
FSD, safety, software. You clearly don't get it.
Are the Electrify America chargers that bad? I've been eyeing a used I5 '23 SEL RWD for 450-500 mile trips from the MD near DC to eastern KY, and I see several EA charging stations along I-81
@@nathandavidhall not as many nor as reliable as Tesla ….also depends on your location. They are great chargers but sometimes not available or working. If you have many near you then don’t worry.
@@nathandavidhall Yes they are!
I have your exact (2023) car and this is a very sober comparison.
Buy a wireless phone connector (I have a Motorola MA1 Wireless Android @ $50) and phone problem is solved.
Also, you can set the driver seat to retract automatically when you open the driver's door. A great egress/ingress feature that doesn't get enough attention.
Standard on a Tesla!
Just rented on a trip out in SoCal. It’s a joy to drive. Impressed by the build quality and agree with what you have outlined.
Love my 2024 ioniq 5 limited! Recently had the highlander hybrid it was great but, haven't paid for fuel for months, free charging for 2 years is awesome! Highly recommend this car.
I was initially opposed to an EV, the Ioniq 5 N changed my mind. While waiting to take delivery I had a Ioniq 5 limited loaner and I liked it too. I have co-workers with Tesla's and inside they are too sterile and boring not to mention the styling hasn't changed.
I drive Uber Eats sometimes and I saw 4.2 miles to KWH the other day. Running A/C, Highway and roads: 4.2 * 74 KWH Battery = 310.8
Yes, but the average speed for an Uber in town is 25-30 mph. The efficiency figure needs highway miles and speeds for comparison.
I love the look on the outside, but the inside just looks cheaper imo. I also thought the screens were strange and the software was laggy so that ruined the experience for me. The Mustang Mach e and Model Y were by far the best experiences out of the EVs I tested, but the Tesla was just a superior experience so I went with that. No shade on this car cause I like it alot, but it just wasn't for me. The only gripe I have with my car is the suspension is tight, but it's not a dealbreaker. Build quality is great, the only thing that rattles is my daughters car seat
The Ioniq 5 is definitely a nice looking car, but for us here in NZ, the Ioniq 5 58kWh is $10k NZD more than the Model Y RWD, has less range than the MY, less cargo space, no heated seats or steering wheel. no heat pump. Hyundai and Kia have no app here in NZ so it's not possible to pre-heat the cabin or monitor the charging. No over the air updates, in fact Hyundai NZ have been very reluctant to offer software updates at all and don't do them automatically at the service. For all of these reasons, we bought a Model Y instead of an Ioniq 5
With the Tesla you need to adapt to how it functions. You don’t have the knobs and switches and manual vents that most cars have. When the Y gets a refresh it will most likely have gotten rid of the indicator stalk and drive stalk in favor of buttons on the steering wheel and controls on the screen. People say you get used to it. You do voice controls, you set it and forget it etc. Maybe. I like the direction that Hyundai is taking with the I5 where they have fixed every design flaw that people complained about with the 2025 refresh. Adapting the car to you rather than you adapting to the car. In the end it’s choices. On a lot of levels the Y is a good choice, but I’m very glad that we have lots of other choices. It’s already brought down the price of the Y for everyone that wants one.
Adapting to the car is because you should. It's better for myriad interconnected reasons. If you are too neanderthal to quickly do so...well.
Sure, if you can't adapt to technology and change, stick with Hyundai. I see no use in buttons. I can already control the A/C and radio on the steering wheel. Shy do I need additional redundant buttons on the dash? Hyundai lets you turn off regen braking for people who don't understand the concept of one pedal driving. It's far superior to using the brakes. It would be better not to give them the option and in a couple days they would get used to one pedal driving and would get better range. People bashed Apple when they got rid of the disk drive and dvd drive. Turned out they were right to do it. I haven't tried a car with no stalks yet. So, can't comment on that until I do. However, set it and forget it applies to most functions on the car. Getting rid of physical buttons is why Tesla can fix so many issues with over the air updates.
Tesla quality is still CRAP.
@@ymcpa73 "I can already control the A/C and radio on the steering wheel."
You control the a/c with the steering wheel? Really? How?
"Hyundai lets you turn off regen braking for people who don't understand the concept of one pedal driving. It's far superior to using the brakes. It would be better not to give them the option and in a couple days they would get used to one pedal driving and would get better range."
Incorrect. Using regen when not needed wastes energy. Tesla's setup is the lazy option, and now they took away any settings for regen level. Hyundai's and Kia's only use the brakes if you are in an emergency OR you are slowing down at around 5mph.
"People bashed Apple when they got rid of the disk drive and dvd drive. Turned out they were right to do it."
Apple did not start the trend to get rid of the HDD and the optical drive. However we can credit them with the anti consumer trend of putting laptop batteries inside laptops making it harder to replace when needed, and also non replaceable ram and storage.
"Getting rid of physical buttons is why Tesla can fix so many issues with over the air updates."
You mean the bullsht of selling cars before they are ready *cough* cyberturd *cough*.
Complete agree with you. I really don’t like manufacturers that give you features and then tell you it solves a problem or pain point you had. I call total BS on Tesla for that. Yes, I give them 💯 credit for bringing the full benefits of the electric motor over a combustion engine to the masses. Electric motor is infinitely better as a traction motor on any vehicle. Batteries are yet to catch up but that’s ok, they will. But trying to to convince me that I don’t need info display in front of of divers eye line, or I do t need quick access controls like indicator or other stuff, and I have to navigate a screen… I’m sorry but that is a pain point for them, not the customer. It makes it cheaper to make! As a user of a car, that’s only an issue at purchase time, once I drive it, all the things they tell me are gains for me, are not. I’m sorry but any Tesla fan that tells me it is is falling for a bias they have. And that’s cool for you. But if you understand even the basics of Human Factors analysis for safety systems, you will see how BS the direction Tesla has gone with user inputs. Other wise, great cars. I prefer the Ioniq direction where it keeps things that have been proven to just work over time and there is no need from the consumer for adding or removing them. Great review by the way. Thanks
I have the exact car(2022) you tested. I drive very conservatively and get 290 to 305 miles of range when the temperature is between 50 and 80 degrees F..
The lack of a frunk is kinda of a bummer. More importantly, a dual motor Hyundai costs $60k while a better performing, longer range Tesla Y costs $50k, and for most buyers is eligible for a $7,500 point of purchase rebate. So, $60k for a car without a frunk, can't (yet) use the Tesla Supercharger network, is substantially slower, is substantially less efficient, and has substantially less range than a car with superior technology that can be purchased for $42,500. Seems that you have to really hate Elon Musk to make the decision to buy the Hyundai.
What are you talking about that it's substantially slower!?!?! Model Y LR Dual motor is roughly 5s to 0-100 and a I5 dual motor is closer to 4.5s. In regards to the price, its 48k vs 53,5k. For the rebate, blame your backwards gov. We get the same rebate on both cars up north. Both are 65k CAD without the rebate here. The i5 also charges substantially faster than the Tesla.
@@ForkTheSpoonWreckerSo you think you will really notice 0.50 of a second difference 0-62 mph? 😂
@@NomenClature-o8s I'm stating facts, he's claiming SUBSTANTIALLY SLOWER which isn't the case what so ever.
Tesla build quality really is a persistent issue, and the minimalism design approach is costing it market share
Just for those outside US watching this, notably in Europe. Within the EU, everything is CCS2, every single new car, since this a a required standard now. Every single poublic incentive for installing charging station,, implies CCS2, and open to every cars. Regulations have made mandatory for service station on speedway to install fast charging point. These need to be open to any cars.
So the Tesla charging network advantage does no exist apart from the mind of people who did not realise how the regulations changed during the past 10 years or so.
I am going to forgo getting a Tesla and get an updated Ionic5 this fall. They are updating some of your negative features such as buttons for climate controls. I will be charging at home mostly. Thanks for the review.
Many thanks for great review. What was your average speed in that 200 miles trip?
Average speed was 33mph for that charge
Beautiful car!
There is a reason the Model Y was the #1 selling car in the world in 2023 and is likely to be the #1 selling car in the U.S. in 2024. That said, im grateful there are plenty of EV options now.
Nice video,however, did you say you can charge at a Tesla Supercharger? As of August 2024, only Ford and Rivian have access to Superchargers .
Also, the large majority of Tesla superchargers are 400V so they would charge the 800V Ioniq 5 slowly, and with the Ioniq 5 having the connector on the right rear side, you either won't be able to connect to the charger or you'd have to p*** someone off taking up two spaces. And with Tesla's boss being who he is, I don't see any reason to go charge there.
The refreshed 2025 model will have a Tesla NACS connector as opposed to CCS
Hyundai/Kia access to Tesla Superchargers is currently limited to “Magic dock” stations.
Also charging speeds are compromised due to 800V architecture on IONIQ 5 and EV6.
Should get access to V3 Superchargers by Q4 or Q1 2025 at the latest.
But how many V3 superchargers are there or will be coming? (sorry don't know much about Tesla's, except horror story's of how much repair cost can get)
@@flolou8496 V2 Superchargers are 150KW and V3's are 250KW. About 15,000 Tesla chargers (V3) will be available to Non-Tesla EV's who are partnering with Tesla. Currently, Ford and Rivian have access to Superchargers. As these EV's have a CCS1 port, a Tesla (NACS)-to-CCS1 adapter is needed to use these chargers. In addition, Tesla is beginning to deploy its V4 superchargers which will also be accessible.
@@flolou8496 According to Tesla, about 7,500 Tesla Superchargers will be available to non-TESLA EV's
@@davidkreim6544 So are you saying that these type of superchargers have to be adjusted like the Magic Dock's?
Not adjusted, but Non-Tesla EV’s will need an adapter. The adapter connects to the Tesla charger then the other end connects to the CCS1 port on the non-Tesla EV. Starting in 2025, non-Tesla manufacturers will begin producing EV’s with a NACS (Tesla) port, at which point the adapter will no longer be needed
I tested both the Ionic 5 and Tesla Y and the Y has better range, quicker, more room, a much more comfortable seat for me and is much cheaper so I bought the Y. I did like the styling in the Hyundai better, the suspension felt better and it was more quiet.
@@d3j051 Ioniq. Not Ionic.
I own this car's twin, after driving a Tesla for 6 years, and LOVE it. Everything you've reported echoes my observations. My only frustration is waiting for Tesla to give the green light to Hyundai to use Superchargers. As usual, they have fallen way behind with the J3400 rollout.
Glad you’re enjoying!
Q4 2024 or Q1 2025 for Hyundai/Kia Supercharger access. I'm waiting too - Already purchased a NACS-CCS1 adapter.
@@EatSleepDrive The Model Y is the superior vehicle, and it's not close. If you're confident I'm wrong, let's debate the issue, and we'll see how well it goes for you.
@@kenhiett5266
No life Tesla/Musk cult fanboys voluntarily and aggressively doing their marketing job for free is 1 is the funniest things to emerge from the social media aspect of the car industry
@@Slik6Sik Says the parrot who goes around repeating unevidenced, mindless clichés.
Love the Ioniq 5's look but I went with the Y for the price and financing and the lack of a wiper in a northern climate with such a vertical window in the Ioniq.
I think the model Y has 75KW battery not 85.
Yes. I think the Teslas are very efficient, so they have longer range with a same size or smaller battery.
I'm surprised you would review this now, week they have literally released the 2025 model and can be driven at your local dealer. The battery is now 84kw, they have actual button shortcuts for the heating and other things, apple car play, android auto and dark surrounds on the display, plus OTA updates
The 2025 (non N) isn't available in the US yet. They haven't announced the exact US specs or the delivery date.
I have never once thought of a Tesla as a frog. That’s on you.
Thanks for the bike test! That was crucial for me. But unfortunately it looks like you can't get 2 bikes in there. The EV9 is way too expensive; wish there was a proper boxy cargo moving electric SUV out there.
It’s also a shame there’s no way to have a bike rack - I don’t think.
Try Cybertruck or Hummer!
Roof rack or top rack. I just brought home a new tv in mine. I LOVE this car! It is the closest thing to my Lexus LS 400, I would like a rear wiper, the brake lights to light when on like the Subaru (do I know why people are thinking I am braking). A sunroof might be nice but it is so big inside and the roof height I really don’t notice it. This is a great car!
@@rozonoemi9374 😅
@@vecamiolo My i5 has a normal Thule bike rack mounted where my towbar goes. The one drawback is that you have to lower the bike rack to open the boot (or the trunk as you guys call it!) so you might want to disable the auto boot opening.
Reasonable comments on the whole. I feel both cars are great. Main criticism of the model y was build quality. 2023 models and newer are very different from the older. Better suspension, quieter and build quality is as good as any brand including the Ioniq 5 from Hyundai. OK I can’t talk for US built. But both Chinese and German built model Ys are doing good. I have a model Y and a friend the Ioniq 5 both excellent and honestly it’s a taste thing. Range is fine on both and 90% of the time we charge both cars at home.
I have the Ioniq 5 77,4kW RWD 19" and top line 2023. RWD and 19" for maximum range since I think the RWD has already alot of power an enough for most situations. It's really good EV and I'm happy with my decision. I agree with most points but not about the Bose soundsystem. It is ok and I'm, fine with that but for sure not great.
Btw all E-GMP cars have limited charging speeds on Telsa SCs. I think only Genesis is an exception. Like on a v3 you get abit below 100kW max. At least in europe thats not a big problem, since there are many different charging station all around. But I would avoid Tesla SCs with the Ioniq 5/6 and Kia EV6/9. Because the best about the Ioniq 5 is the charging speed. On my last trip I did a quick stop at Ionity with almost 50% SoC left and still got 240kW up to 58% and after that it was still 180kW. There is no Tesla that is able to charge fast at such high SoCs. That makes it so flexible compared to many other EVs where you should reach a charger with a very low SoC. Best below 10%. A Model X was next to me that day with 40% and was only charging with 140kW... The Model X is twice the price of the Ioniq 5. He was standing there when I came and was still there when I left.
The new MJ25 has a 84kWh battery, wireless car play and AA and buttons for the seat heating/vantilation and I think also the steering wheel. They also replace the chip (Gen5W) for the infotainmaintsystem with a new and much faster chip (ccNC) which is also used in the Ioniq 5 N. That also comes with a better UI.
My 2022 Ioniq 5 AWD had battery failure after 10 months and I ended up getting a lemon buyback from Hyundai. I probably would have kept it but my dealership was terrible in dealing with the repair. They had no idea how to work on it and communication was zero during the 2.5 month process, I had to constantly call to get a straight answer about what was going on. Also, don’t even think about going on a road trip in it. The network is a complete joke to fast charge it. I went with the model Y mostly for the convenience of supercharging but found out that the service experience is infinitely better here where I live as well. I did like how the I5 handled and accelerated better and it is a better looking car. The MY has the I5 beat on its tech and convenience by country mile. Everything is integrated, I don’t miss Apple car play at all because all of my favorite apps are in the infotainment. The sentry mode and blind spot cameras that come on when turning as well as the integrated dash cam are great. Hyundai is still new to the EV market so it’ll get better over time and maybe the access to the supercharger network will prove to be useful too.
what a time to be alive. Nissan has build quality like hyundai back in the 90s (and tesla). While modern hyundai has build quality like nissan back in the early 90s, and modern honda build quality.
From me, a honda fan
My 2022 Model Y LR had no fit and finish problems from day one. I'm not sure how many of that same model in that same year were delivered with F&F problems but my impression is that by 2022 Tesla was building their cars to very high standards just on F&F. As to styling, everyone has their own opinion about these cars. The main difference between the Tesla style, interior and exterior, is that it is intentionally a minimalist look. Most other EV manufacturers stick to the older traditional style with exterior trim and body form elements. Also the interior of the traditional style includes a number of physical controls for things like climate, lights, turn signals and A/V selections. That is an intentional choice on the part of the non-Tesla EVs as a way to ease the buying public into the EV world without being too radical. It is certainly a valid choice and seems to be working to some degree as we move from the early adopters being dominated by Tesla toward the more wait-and-see customers coming into the market lately. It's all a matter of individual choice which is still the main force in product preference.
Good point about early adopters. I still don’t see what the minimalist interior has to do with EV. Not related at all. It’s a Tesla choice. And I think it’s less about overall style and more about cost and easy of manufacture. So I really don’t like the function of their approach, I like the look but not at the expense of all controls being on a big screen.
Your neighbor must have a high-tech humming sewing machine.
Nice to know, u r having fun..
No need to compromise drive.Try Audi or BMW other SUV with EV/plugin?
I'm in Quebec and we have the Ioniq 5 2024 ultimate blue lucid (and after that we even got a Kona 2024 ultimate ev as we got sold forever on hyundai and ev)...and here i see more and more Ioniq 5... it's because finally we have stock.
I mean I got mine in Feb 2024 and it was the only one for a lot of km arround...Now they are popping everywhere.
And let 's face it with all the issues Tesla is having no wounder people are going for other brands (and since Toyota/Subaru car is awfull same with the rest of Japanese cars to a lesser degree)...the Ioniq 5 is getting a lot of well deserved attention.
You've said it, if you've driven one, you've driven kind of all of them, what you balls down to now is ride quality
It is better than the Model Y. But once the new Model Y comes out, that may change. I had one of these and found its steering too light, even in Sports mode. I now have the new Model 3, and its quality is significantly improved over the current Model Y and previous Model 3. It’s a lot nicer to drive, with very nice and tight steering, suspension that is a great balance of sportiness and comfort, vs, the Model Y’s very bumpy suspension, and the Ioniq 5’s very soft suspension. Overall, I’m happier with it than the Ioniq 5. I believe that once Tesla refreshes the Model Y, they will bring the same changes such as improved suspension and quality to it. Still, I applaud Hyundai overall for their efforts, and if I could afford one right now, I’d be driving the Genesis GV60 performance.
I came for the bike test! This was the car I wanted to get, but it was a bit more expensive at the time and my wife didn’t like the looks. Anxious to try it with my Kia Niro EV! But unlike you, I am very willing to take the front wheel off to save my back!
Are sewing machines loud?😂 Whenever I go to my tailor I can barely hear it.
Like an internal combustion engine isn’t loud? lol
No EV sounds like a sewing machine, which is actually a very mechanical sound. Some EVs and hybrids emit a kind of haunted refrigerator whine when at slow speeds or "idling" at a stop light. But none of them sound like a sewing machine.
Ioniq 5 from outside is very nice 👍. Don’t like the interior and feels a lot cheaper than Tesla. Screens are awful, lane keeping is trash and user experience is far from Tesla.
No car is perfect and both are good, Tesla and Hyundai but I would choose Tesla over Hyundai in a heartbeat 😄
Love my car it’s AWD, I’ve gotten a charge of 300 miles one time , I guess the weather conditions were just right, I always charge to 80% and get 240 miles on the average
I recently went shopping for my first EV, and expected to go with the Ioniq 5 (great reviews), but ended up getting the model Y…. And honestly it wasn’t a hard decision.
The model Y beats it in battery life, luxury features, tech, more space, and (this shocked me) better price. I like the Ioniq 5 charging time and look, but price being equal, I still would have gone with the Tesla. What shocked me was how much more expensive the Ioniq 5 limited was than the model Y. MSRP was 59k, vs Tesla model Y all wheel drive was 48k (and performance 51 if you think that’s a more fair comp).
Maybe Ioniq 5 was the better priced car one or two years ago, but the model Y has come down in price so much that it’s just the better purchase IMO.
We’ll see how it holds up- I had a Tucson a few years back and it was a good car. Teslas I’ve heard aren’t super sturdy, but it seems really well built so far.
But the price difference is kinda ridiculous. Ioniq 5 needed to be 7K cheaper for me to seriously consider it.
Model Y is cheap for a reason. It’s nothing more than an iPad on wheels. It’s minimalism at the max. No thank you! You get what you pay for,
@@marketbuy how is it minimalist? It feels every bit as luxurious as my last Lexus (probably more so because of the advanced tech). Its performance (0-60 speed and total range) is better than the Ioniq 5. I researched like crazy before buying, so I’m genuinely curious what is minimalist or cheap about it.
@@sbdc83
If you want premium, take a test drive on the Nissan Ariya Evolve+ trim. The drive is buttersmooth and has many features that the Model Y and Ioniq5 don’t have. It does not have the best infotainment in its class but the drive and features set it apart from the competition. No other competitor has panoramic moonroof that can open and close PLUS it includes an electric sunshade cover. Ariya has HUD and aerial bird eye view camera as well as rear view illuminated camera.
Tesla tends to overhype their range. My Ariya Evolve+ has 87 kw battery. EPA is 289 miles. I usually get 310-330 miles on 95% charge. This is based on 70% city driving and 30% hwy driving.
I just bought the 2024 Ioniq 5 SEL. Between the Ioniq5 SEL and Ariya Evolve-, I believe the Ariya is way better. Hyundai has great infotainment system and great battery. This where Ioniq5 shine. Other than that, Ariya is more refined with Japanese build quality. Plus, Ariya owners can use Tesla Superchargers.
Please note, I’m only comparing Evolve+ vs Ioniq SEL. They are both in the same price segment at $48K.
I stand by my statement that Model Y is cheap minimalist. You get what you pay for. All you get is an iPad on wheels.
Come back to us in a year. If the panels don’t loosen, and the car doesn’t squeak or rattle, you found yourself the rare winner.
@@BP13156 maybe- I suspect those issues are overblown. Ive heard complaints on the internet about that, but everyone I know personally with one has never had those issues.
They need to release new dashboard layouts in over-the-air updates. There are no seating positions in which I can see all the UI that I need to. And even if there were, I should have to move the my body to see what’s on the screen when it’s as easy as rearranging some pixels.
I'm intrigued that you were able to fit a large mountain bike in the back without removing the front wheel. I wonder how well my extra large hybrid bike would fit.
the thing that scared people away from the hyundai in my country, was when they deleted peoples reservations for the car.
Only thing I wish is they make the right side screen adjustable, can be bending towards the driver, because I have to lean over to touch the furthest icons on the screen.
Tesla is so smart with their tech it just baffles me why the build quality is so poor.
They are a software company sir. Hyundai is a car company. That wasn’t hard was it?
@@ChosenMJ then maybe they should sell software instead of crap cars. 🤡
It used to be. No longer.
You obviously haven't tried the 2024 Model 3. Yes the Ionic 5 is better looking, but under the hood, Tesla is King!
All new car companies have build quality problems. Tesla is actually a stand out for how quickly they've overcome these issues. Hyundai's were a lot worse for the first couple of decades.
I test drove the Model Y and the Ioniq 5 to make my purchase decision. I enjoyed both, ultimately went for the Model Y for the following reasons: 1)Longer range than the Ioniq, 2)Waaaaaaaay more cargo and frunk space, 3)Infinitely better software, 4)It feels like an EV, not an ICE car, 5)Regular over the air (OTA) updates, so it's always getting better 6)Tesla is American owned and run, 7)I prefer the Model Y design aesthetic - my feeling is that Ioniq might date quite badly, 8)There were so many screens and buttons in the Ioniq (including for the rear vision mirrors - absolutely ridiculous screens) and 9)I've owned a Hyundai previously - it was ok...honestly...ok...but not awesome...had some reliability issues and felt a bit cheap overall.
I'm truly enjoying my Ioniq 5 SE. Gotten comfortable with all the bells and whistles, but I find myself forgetting to turn it off.
It looks a million times better than the Y
I test drove the Model Y, Mach E, EV6, and Ioniq 5. Ended up getting the Ioniq. Reasons? The Hyundai has less body lean and handles bad roads better (roads here in IL are not good). The iPad in the middle of the console thing for Tesla and Ford is ugly. Sorry, but it is. Interior build quality is excellent, but it was for the others as well (except for the EV6, which felt cheap). The Ioniq charges faster. Two years of free 30 min Level 3 fast charging with Electrify America with access to the Tesla network coming next year. 0-60 speed differences are negligible (at least for what I need). Remote parking feature is a party trick, but still cool. Tesla has better software and more frequent OTA updates so they definitely win in that area. Don't like that Model Y's are everywhere here. Pricing differences on the 24' model year are not as much as people here are saying. My OTD price (including taxes and fees) on my Limited after dealer discounts and incentives was $51K.
Ah... 2024 model Y are the same price as a Camry now with 0.99-1.99 apr that qualifies to full $7500 off msrp.. sorry, but you overpaid for your Huandai..
IDK what Teslas you have in the US, but my German-built 2023 Model Y has 0 build quality issues, and the materials feel very nice. That's not only my opinion, but every other skeptic I got in the car who already had an opinion on Tesla build quality. 15 minutes later, they all said that the build quality issues everyone talks about on the internet are BS.
I believe that build quality issues have been addressed with upgrades.
My Tesla doesn't have any issues either. Being critical of Tesla and Elon is an internet sport over here. It's something to do, I guess.
He's just jumping on the Musk hate band waggon.
Theirs a good reason why Tesla sells 50% of the EV's in the USA and why they even try to claim Tesla is losing...
Of course they wouldn't be staying at 80 forever, nor will they stay at 50%, more an more sales will be EV's if they would have 20% in 10 years tie, that would be insanely good.
The Model Y is cheaper and offers a lot more, for less money, too spec another EV to what comes as standard on the Tesla's the price difference increases significantly.
I'm also European, i've owned a M3 from 2019 and a 2021 MY, you can definitely tell the 2021 is a lot better built quality.
So it's not like Tesla's were always built as great as they are today, I've driven the M3 revamp and it's increased again, but the difference is less than between the 2019 and 2021 Tesla's.
People just like to shit on Tesla, but a model Y beats this car on everything, cargo space, interior space, frunk, acceleration (you can buy an acceleration boost on the model Y, for a lot less than the price difference that makes it faster), charging, charging infrastructure, tech,...
The absence of the $7500 federal incentive is a significant barrier to me.
Lame that you can earn your way out of the credit.
@@evanescent0311 Yeah, the year I took in $500k, I was frozen out of the incentives. How are little guys like us going to have a chance?
Its to expensive a Y is 45k euro a Ionic 5 is from 42k euro but if you spec it like a Tesla it goes up to almost 60k.
Hyundai started making EV for 30+ yrs. Kudos to them! It finally pays them off after all these years. Some ppl buy Tesla because they think Tesla is the first EV company. US has their own charging station, it might be the advantage for them. But for others, doesn't even matter.
I'm not sure why the Model Y is so popular. I lived with one for 9 days last Summer on a trip to the East coast. I put about 1000 miles on the car in that time going from NYC to Connecticut, Boston, over to Ithaca, NY and back to NYC and lots of driving around in those cities. The model Y was a huge disappointment and it had nothing to do with it being an EV. Main disappointments:
1) Yes, the build quality was not great. The fit and finish was not what I would expect from a leading selling model. The door alignment and hood alignment was off.
2) The air conditioner broke down on the 7th day of the trip. This was during a 90+ degree stretch in NYC/NJ. Really infuriating.
3) Even though we exclusively charged at the Tesla Superchargers, I was not super impressed with charging speeds.
4) The car had very dangerous "phantom braking" on 3 different occasions on the trip. The car did NOT have FSD but we were using the active driver aids like lane keeping. once the car braked at highway speeds for ABSOLUTELY no reason. We were lucky to not get rear-ended since the braking was abrupt.
5) I spent some hours in the rear seat while my son drove the car. Front seats were quite comfortable. Rear seats were not at all comfortable. Very hard.
Honestly, I think Hyundai has a much better reputation now than Tesla and this car being less expensive and made by a company with a lot longer history of top notch manufacturing makes this real competition for the Model Y. Another nice fact is that Hyundai will start making this car in the USA!
I like my modY performance. Mod Y is a perfect EV. Extremly efficient, fast and a high charging infra plus the best software . I can transport easy 2 roadbikes.
I have M3 and build quality interior and exterior are excellent so not sure what model Y or 3 you have driven? Maybe American build ones maybe?. Mine is from Shanghai factory and quality there is excellent.
Over the air updates?
I don't believe so. Not until the 2025 MY and forward.
After 2016 Tesla model X, I told myself I will never go back to Tesla due to poor build quality. After experiencing 2 Rivian, and MachE, I went back to Tesla again. It’s software and FSD is unmatched. Build quality has improved so much as well. If Hyundai can give us FSD, I will buy Hyundai EVs.
First, they need OTA in there cars!
@@rozonoemi9374Here in Europe the Hyndai Ioniq 5 and 6 have OTA updates. They don’t have in the states?
Tesla is ahead of everyone when it comes to EVs it's not even close. Just the supercharger network alone makes owning a Tesla worry free.
Why do you need FSD? If you’re sitting behind the wheel, what good will FSD do for you? Active cruise control works plenty.
@@marketbuy I can tell you don't have FSD.
I have bought 2 Model Y LRs and feel that many things you say are not accurate. The buils quality ride and noise are all superb on my 2024 and the suspension. is really nice.
I am really tired of the buttons are better arguement. People made that about android and iPhone and it was bullshit that you cannot learn to use screen only no buttons so easily and once you do it gives the car company so many options for improving the user experience over time which Tesla is really good at. Saying that people are used to buttons and so we should never take them aways is a poor attitude leaving us stuck with fewer innovation options.
I do agree that the cargo space is the Model Y is not ideal and is large but badly shaped and limits things you can put in.
Using buttons in a car and on a phone is not comparable at all. When you use phone, you're supposed to look at the screen. When you're driving, you're supposed to look at the road and push a button without having to look for it. Having to delve into setting on a tablet for every little thing is not evolution, it's dangerous. And that does not apply only to Tesla, but to all carmakers switching from physical buttons.
@@jklepek Have you heard about voice command instead of physical touch?
@@rozonoemi9374 For one, in Europe not everyone speaks english. Second, it's still faster and more convenient to use buttons. And third, voice recognition is not always reliable.
@@jklepek If you own a Tesla, you can speak in your own language & voice command will react.
@@jklepekVoice commands are localized in your language... and for most things you need while driving you don't need to delve into menues. In fact most is done with the Buttons on the Sterling wheel and the rest with one or two clicks on screen.
I own this exact same car. Agreed on most points of your review. I must disagree with your opinion on the Bose sound system, which is very bad in my opinion. Midrange needs to be cranked all the way down in Settings for it to be barely OK, and that just plain sucks. The Harman Kardon sound system in the Kia Soul EV I had before this was sooooo much better, it’s not even funny.
Yup, the audio on my full load i5 is no where even close to the Tesla system. Heck, even my factory HK system in my gen 1 MINI Cooper was significantly better than the Ioniq 5 audio system. The review has a strong shill vibe to it .
Tesla audio is B&O components.
@@mowensmd Excellent Sound room in my Model 3!
The reason there is no “one touch” windows up for any seat other than the driver’s seat is due to safety. Before these power windows were regulated. Children could get their heads caught in a rear window going up. Several children died from this. Now it is not an option for closing windows. I think some cars do offer one touch down though for all windows.
Less screens and more buttons would be nice in my mind (sorry, but I really hate touch screens in cars). But looking at this, this to me seems the much better overall package - Hyundai's really nailed it. The questions I have regard serviceability (am I allowed to take it to a mechanic of my choice) and esp. can Hyundai revoke paid for features when ever they feel like (and is Hyundai jumping on a subscription model for the ability to use things like heated seats).
Oh, has Hyundai address the lack of brake likes when doing one pedel driving yet?
*lights*
Great! Now try to drive from Michigan to Florida with it in less than 24 hours. I’ve done that many times in my 2016 Tesla Model S. The Supercharger network is dependable and I’ve never had to wait for an open stall. Also, since it’s a 2016 model, I don’t have to PAY for Supercharging. That’s right - since I don’t stay in a hotel, and I pay zippo, nada, zilch for charging, the trip is free. The Tesla Autopilot makes it so driver fatigue is greatly reduced. And I, also, can fit my 21-Speed bike in the back without taking off either wheel (Tesla Model S is a hatchback). And it drives like a dream with a truly amazing music sound system! Not sure why I would buy anything else, particularly if I can transfer my free, unlimited Supercharging for life as Tesla recently offered. I like the Ioniq 5 and what Hyundai is doing with EV’s - wish the Big 3 in America were doing more like Hyundai. But IMHO, Tesla is still the only choice for EV’s if you want a car you can use like a gas car and go on worry-free road trips due to their robust and highly dependable Supercharger Network. I know Tesla is partially opening up their Supercharger network to other car makers - but not all of them. I want access to ALL of them. Great review!
You are comparing a model S that new would have cost you about 80k to an Ionic 5. Yes, you have “free” charging. That is not offered on models in the Ionic 5 price class.
@@keithv3767 True. I don’t know what an Ioniq 5 costs. If I trade in my Model S, I’ll probably get a Model Y. I assume that’s more apples to apples? Everything else would then apply, I assume? One thing that Hyundai isn’t: an American car company, right? I like to buy American if I can.
@@Widdermaker They're not American, but the vehicles are built in the US. They're assembled in their plant in Savannah, GA. They're more American than a Ford, which are usually made in Mexico.
@@orangejuche Well, where’s Hyundai incorporated? Yes, they build cars here, mainly because of laws that would tariff them out of competitiveness in America if they didn’t. But the revenue ultimately goes to a South Korean company. I have nothing against S. Korea (or any foreign corp!), I just like to support American companies making products in America whenever I can. EV’s are the future - so, I want to support an American company in this nascent industry. I also don’t like the fact that GM & Ford get many, if not most, of their subassemblies & components built in other countries and then just assemble the final gas or EV car product here. Tesla is the most American car product you can buy per American University’s Kogod School of Business which did a study on this. God bless Hyundai for moving the EV ball forward and I’d encourage everyone to consider them, too, if you don’t like Tesla. And, of course, consider Ford & GM. The main thing is, don’t listen to the media FUD. Try an EV for yourself, people - you’re gonna love ‘em!! Keep in mind, though, that the most robust & dependable road trip charging network is the Tesla Supercharger network. Although, for most people living in their private home, 95% of the time you just plug in at home. It’s been over a year since I last used a Supercharger!
Model Y is $15,000+ cheaper (with 7,500 credit), has much more cargo space, more efficiency, better security/infotainment and a functional charging network.
Come on now, It's not even close.
Have you driven both?
@@rhysjones4500 yes, was looking at it while Model Y wait times were up to a year and they were priced comparably.
But Elon. Couldn’t do it.
@@rhysjones4500 Yes I did & will keep my old 2018 Model 3!
@@joseph2024 You are buying a car, not Elon.
Thanks for the video. And don’t forget to do the bike test with the drive side up! Otherwise you risk getting bike grease on your interior!
also to avoid bending a derailleur hanger
Well wanted to like this video but in my opinion is very bs towards Ioniq 5. When you said that they have almost the same efficiency you lost me right there. Model Y is about 15% more efficient. Thats not to dismiss.
Ioniq 5 vs Model Y in MPGe:
combined 99 vs 117
city 110 vs 122
Highway 88 vs 112
Also having access eventually to supercharger is just a nice back up to have because superchargers currently do not support voltages higher than 500. Therefore e-gmp platform EVs like Ioniq 5 will charge at superchargers at around 100kW only. In other words doubling pretty much the charging time. Also not to say at much higher cost per kWh.
Depends on the trim. The long range RWD Ioniq 5 has MPGe combined 114, city 132, and highway 98.
And yes, the e-gmp cars won’t charge the fastest on Tesla’s lower voltage superchargers. But it will hold that 100 kW all the way from 10% to 80%. It would probably take less than 35 minutes.
Sure the Tesla is ok...but if I were picking up an EV tomorrow in this price range, no question I'd be going with the Hyundai Ioniq 5. Place a charger at home and it would more than cover my daily commutes. The petrol SUV could handle the summer road trip duties...
If I was shopping now, I have the Ioniq 5 and Polestar at the top of my list. Well, if my wife won the lottery, I'd add on the Lucid.
Good luck to Hyundai, seems that they are making good EVs, however, I cant imagine swapping this for my MYLR. I guess we dont all have the same taste
The model Y is a fantastic car. I consider this to be an alternative. Different strokes for sure.
Comment about range: the screen showed that you've done 200 miles in ~ 7:00 hours. That's less than 30mph on average. And at such speeds EVs are efficient. If you drive 70-75mph, the efficiency would drop to 2.8-3.0 m/kWt. And the range would decrease. Even if timer shows when the car was started and you drove only 4-5 hours, that translates into 50mph - speeds too slow for Highways. EVs are great options for city riding - I really enjoy mine Genesis GV70, but highway range slightly disappoints.
A 26” tire 1951 Schwinn Fat fender cruiser fits completely flat in the back of my Blazer EV
800V architecture on the Ioniq 5 means it can charge a lot faster than the Tesla. This means even though range and efficiency are better on the Tesla, the total charge time for a long trip is shorter in the Ioniq 5. In Europe we have plenty 300kW chargers you can use for this. However if you have to use Tesla's chargers (I understand the non-Tesla networks are kinda sparse in the US?), then the Ioniq 5 charge speed is quite limited there, because the Tesla chargers don't support 800V charging.
Just drove my I5 from Boonville California to Mobile Alabama and paid 0 dollars for charging on the electrify America network…And and had no problem finding charging stations.
@@cesarmaldonado8946 quick question because I’m cheap, how did you not pay? I mean, I’m assuming the hotels had free charging? Or is it because there are free charging stations at certain locations in the states? Please let me know for my next trip down there. But I wish there was was a map that shows which charging stations are free at different locations. I would much rather hang out at the mall for an hour to get a free charger then spend a half an hour in the middle of nowhere, waiting to pay a lot at a gas station.
@ that was not quick lol but electrify America stations are free for the first 2 years… didn’t stay at any hotel… slept in the back of the car… very comfortable btw… lol
@@cesarmaldonado8946 I see now. Yeah they don’t offer that in Canada yet., Nor for Kia vehicles either. But yeah, I can’t complain. We have good subsidies in Quebec. 12000 dollars off when we combine federal and provincial incentives!
Sorry the model y and even the performance is a way better deal. Not to mention the supercharger network. Check the depreciation on a Kia or Hyundai EV after one year. They are way over priced.
It's a better car, and it doesn't have Musk.
I would buy a car from Ronald MacDonald before I would buy a car from Musk
lol it’s not Musk scented. Agree
Ok, so your hate is based on his politics. This is exactly what’s wrong with America today.
@@NomenClature-o8s Mainly, I'm pro-union.
@@NomenClature-o8s No Master Yoda. My hate is for Musk. What does that got to do with politics?
With ownership experience of both Tesla and i5 I have to say both don't have great build quality. I can see a seat upholstery defect on the driver' seat near the left shoulder which has a bubble - that is fabric is lifted away from the foam. My car has the same issue. This is a common problem and Hyundai is very hit and miss (more miss) when it comes to fixing it. In my experience, the mediocre Tesla service is better than the poor Hyundai service. Within 1 day of ownership, they told me the bubble was wear and tear. i5s have rampant AC issues. Think 6 service visits bad. Honestly, the i5 is better in terms of content and subjectively with styling but worse in quality, driving dynamics, interface, and service. Tesla has huge gaps in multiple areas but the overall the Tesla ownership experience is better than Hyundai.
Yup. Have a Kia EV6 and Tesla. The Tesla has been vastly more reliable in my 5 years of ownership. Had more problems in the Kia. It is what it is.
Finally, some truth.
I couldn't buy a car that does not have a decent autopilot that works on all roads as I use this feature every single drive. With Tesla's system now basically at Level 5 and improving, it is hard to justify buying anything else IMO. No one else has anything close to it. If you do not have experience with this feature, I'm sure you may be tempted to overlook it .. a classic case of "not knowing what you don't know".
0:45 "This doesnt look like a frog" lol
Why? Model y has more storage, more interior space , more range, better software with stable frequent OTA updates , and cheaper. No brainer.
How’s the FSD?
I'd never buy a Tesla. Poor build quality, poor paint quality, the yoke is lame, no physical buttons, no turn signal stalk, and you can't even adjust the vents manually. NO THANKS.
this comment screams "I've not driven a Tesla in the last few years"
@@Moms-Spaghetti Pretty much all of those things apply to the Cybertruck, and that just came out, soo....
News flash, nobody cares what you want to buy.
@@Galastin Cybertruck - possibly true, I could agree with that. Although I haven't driven it myself since it isn't available in my market. But this video is about Model Y. Which has really good build quality the last 2-3 years, has stalks, no yoke and paint can be quite good with the multicoat options..
@@OffgridApartment - Actually, manufactures do care, as they compete for business. But here's a news flash for you: Nobody cares about your irrelevant snarky comments.
Extra space?
Why no frunk?
Why is the rear trunk floor so high? Our m3 has more space for storage.
But I despise musk.
The model y looks way cooler. The frunk on that thing is a joke. No glass roof. Why do you want all those buttons inside? It looks cluttered and not nearly as clean and modern as a y. I don't get it unless you've been brainwashed by the media to hate Elon. Why bring emotions into such a large dollar purchase?
It's got a premium feel... 🤣. It's a Hyundai. This guy never sat in a Porsche, obviously
Your review of the Model Y was 4 years ago. Maybe you should revisit it because the build quality is much better now.
This reviewer hasn't driven a model Y built in the last few years. Either that or he is being dishonest.
A Teslas Y has many flaws, but compared to other EVs, it's mainly styling, interior, and reliance on touch screen functionality. An Ioniq 5 is a worse EV in all the ways that make an EV distinct from other vehicles. If you don't like a Tesla, buy a Rivian or avoid EVs.
Design and styling are so personal - I would maintain that the styling of the Model Y is no more/less polarizing than the styling of the Hyundai Ioniq 5 - so that’s not really a reason that it is a better choice in general - for you personally perhaps. Think there are enough hard facts to make your point with than going with styling as the lead in.
The Model Y is now the practical choice due to price and capability. However I have driven one a few times and the only thing I liked was the horsepower. I love the styling of the I5 and it checks all of my boxes. I wouldn’t buy the Y in any case as it just doesn’t appear to me but when buying a Y you have to be okay with putting money in Musk’s pocket when he has made himself into such a political figure.
Yes, I hate Musk's political view, but he makes some of the best Tech in the industry & what is good for my pocket, is good for me. I just wish he would shut up about his backward political views.
Hyundai EVs are the best on this planet hands down.
I love the Ioniq 5. The look is fantastic. I wanted to get one but there history is not good at all. Loads of issues and recalls and the fact that you can steal one quite easily made me look at other EV models instead sadly. Look up other UA-cam channels on the Ioniq 5 and you will be surprised on how many issues. The Ioniq guy, Cars jubilee, etc. ICCU fuses keep popping, rear hatch clanking, charging ports overheating, NO REAR WIPER ( that is a MUST and Hyundai has FINALLY smartened up and put one on the 2025 models….about fing time ) and very bad service is what made me look elsewhere for a replacement for my BoltEV. Not to mention again the ease that people are able to steal them using “gameboys”.
Ioniq 5 is a great looking and great performance ev….but Hyundai needs to do more.
I thought the charging port overheating, was finally fixed with the latest update? or brining the car in,
The real ICCU issue (faulty welding) only affected a few cars from 2021 and were fixed in a recall. There have been a lot of cases of 12v batteries failing but this has been mitigated by a software update (limiting the frequency that Bluelink can be remotely accessed), and basically if your 12v dies you just need to replace it (preferably with an AGM battery rather than a lead-acid - and the 2025 comes with AGM as standard). I had mine replaced on warranty and haven't had any of the the other issues you mention. It's really a fantastic car.
Teska model Y " if you love your family and kids you will not buy anything other than a tesla" - Thatcham research after testing 5 star safety rated cars. Teslas have safety features which other oems simply cannot provide. So much fud on build quality. When Sandy Munro says it is as good as anything coming out of Germany, you better believe it. More fud with your reference to market share , which is just maths. They are the best selling car because they are the best.
Kia EV6 has buttons for seat heating/ventilating, for me it is the better car of these two. I also don't like the white display border. In the back EV6 also has one-touch-windows controls. I don't get why Hyundai didn't want that. Obviously it is possible in the sister model EV6
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Our m3 doesn’t squeak nor rattle.
I don’t like the artificial sound the ionic makes at low speeds. Ruins the quiet drive at low speeds especially when coming up to wildlife in a park.
i will only say how about charging your ccs car on road trips
How fast does it go through tires? Like the ioniq 5 a lot but dont want to get new tires every 20k miles.
Right?! I do that with my 2015 i3. It's annoying and tires, like everything post covid, have about doubled in price.
@@300rivers4 exactly, i am worried whatever I save on fuel will go right to the tires lol
Autonomy will come while I am driving my next car. I would never buy a normal car, if a Tesla could become kind of „sentient“ over the next years. I believe with 60%, that this happens. There is a 60% chance that my car will become worth a lot more. There is a 1% chance of retrofitting some of the other cars - doesn‘t look like you can slam cameras on there afterwards.
Estate version, please. Longer, more vertical back, and seats folding completely flat. Tow hook and roof railings. All in one car. Like the lost ancient knovledge of car manufacturers from 20 years ago.
Opel Kadett?