Just so I can clear this up, I never made this video with the intention of directly copying Miziziziz's video. I started this video back in February and didn't see his until I was already pretty far into working on mine. By that point, I was already far enough into making it that just abandoning the video would be a massive waste of time. If I found his earlier I wouldn't have made this video. We've already talked about all of this through DMs and are cool with each other. If you have seen his video, check it out since he goes a lot more in-depth than I do: ua-cam.com/video/YCqnD40Q5T8/v-deo.html
Just so I can clear this up, I never made this video with the intention of directly copying Miziziziz's video. I started this video back in February and didn't see his until I was already pretty far into working on mine. By that point, I was already far enough into making it that just abandoning the video would be a massive waste of time. If I found his earlier I wouldn't have made this video. We've already talked about all of this through DMs and are cool with each other. If you have seen his video, check it out since he goes a lot more in-depth than I do: ua-cam.com/video/YCqnD40Q5T8/v-deo.html
Using the inspect element console, I was able to make a code that whenever you clicked the screen it would say "Your Click Is Invalid" in a pop out error message, and then called my teachers over to try to fix it.
As a hardcore mope player myself, YES. I agree. Somany six year olds who don't know what grammar is camping in groundholes after they (probably failed to) tailbite you begging for their life and spamming "team" and "no kil plssss", H O O O O O O O O , JUSTICE WILLBE SERVED TO THE TAILBITING SCUM!
I used to play mope.io, but then the dev made some really suspicious decisions and has some incredibly weird controversy and an awful past with the community. Not to mention theres now microtransactions
I really loved playing Agario in my junior and senior years. 2014-2016. When I try to play it now, it's just been absolutely ruined by all the powerups and ads. Such a shame.
Thank you. I wanted to understand why people think they way they do and you explain it so well it feels so simple. I feel loved that you wanted to help me understand your point in the easiest way you could. You earned my love fam and i know for a fact you deserve it with no doubt in my mind.
I remember playing agar.io on my ipad in somewhere around 2015? and the servers were just FILLED to the BRIM. Resources scarce, literal walls of other huge blobs just constantly eating players and the small dots spawning INSIDE THEM. That's right, inside them. So getting big was impossible. And dont get me wrong the map in agar.io is HUGE. It was that popular
Please post another video soon. I already binged all of your content tonight after just finding your channel. I was sad to see you haven’t posted in over 5 months😢
PuppeteerGaming F, the fun you can have with the inspect element is unmatched and once you figure out how to open command prompt oh you can bet the schools computers are not gonna have a fun time
i remember there was an io game that actually embraced the idea of bots and low player counts, and they made the objective of the game to figure out who wasn't a bot and kill them or something like that. pretty fun actually
thank you for saying some of my childhood .io games you did'nt say all of them but you said the BIG influential ones :D also lol 8:05 hi conner I love u
From the perspective of a millennial: Experience of students messing around in class: Boomers: Passing notes and playing simple games like tic-tac-toe. Gen X: Music is life. Navarra, Iron Maiden, and Green Day. Millennials: Ipods, Coolmathgames, and linerider. Zoomers: IO games and all the things you can do with your phones nowadays. (I might not be 100% accurate, feel free to tell me if I am off and what would be a better option for your generation)
@@yahkimicki236 Of course, I am just doing a general summary. No doubt Gen Z uses Coolmathgames as well, cause it was one of those approved game sites for school lol
I missed out on linerider, lol. But somehow the people in my old high school had played Halo during some classes. I think that I'm Gen X/Millenials cuz I was born early 90s and recall floppy disks but got introduced to UA-cam & Panic! At the Disco in 8th grade and I remember bringing my Green Day CD to high school once.
Ok so me and my friend found a weird program on the Crome book and it said something like “turn off internet” and at first we were like “uh does this actually work” and we turned off the internet for like 5 minutes and it actually went down. We said f it and turned it off for a week and we didn’t really do anything since most of the stuff was online. And no one found out it was us lol
Man i love how i'm being taught what to do if i want something. I know schools want to teach it as well but they aren't taking the time to sit us down and help us to reach a mutual understanding. Not onesided, i know for a fact no one wants that because it's frustrating to not understanding their point and feel like they don't trust me which breaks my heart as i know most of you show with anger sadness and depression as a way to show a warning sign that should be easy to understand but doesn't seem to work which makes all the effort feel pointless since i know that feeling because i went through it too. All of us are not alone, please don't close your heart off to us we want to understand. Let us know when you want to speak in what we all should know is the easiest method......communication that isn't onesided and not talked over or yelling that feels like an attack that we don't want to experience. We want to feel heard, we want to feel loved, and we all want to be happy knowing that we understand each other. Don't betray all of our trust in each other and let us understand that you want to teach us and protect us from our naivety that would kill us when we don't pay attention to the dangers we all know are all around us. i want to feel safe wherever i go knowing that when i die i know i can do so in peace because i know i can trust anyone like family and do what's best for me since i know they would want the same as well. thank you all, I love you all!
Search for Tor Project on duckduckgo in a Private/Incognito tab and put the browser on a flash drive (or get the Operating System called Tails onto the flash drive). Portable Apps site has a bunch of software you can add to the flash drive too, like Blender which can be used to make games if you are smart, or at least 3D objects. It's literally an engine and a 3D modeling software. There's a game on the official Blender site too somewhere iirc, completely free, based on one of two cool videos made in it too. You're welcome.
Man i still remember how bad teamers are in Agario. I used to Step on teamers in Experimental mode and Team Mode. I was literally carrying my whole team in Team Mode. I know almost all the Split Techniques back then. Like from the Classic Double splits to the Cross Feed splits.
Tor Browser, preferably on a flash drive since they modded Firefox Portable to make it. Or be next level and put the Tails Operating System on the flash drive and just change the boot order of the school computers to load from USB first before loading from the harddrive. It's made by the same people as Tor Browser because it's all part of the Tor Project made to protect privacy. If possible don't use the school computers for acquiring Tor/Tails, use home computer or public library for it. If you have to use school ones to get it, then Private/Incognito tab & search for Tor Project via the duckduckgo website. Also, check out Portable Apps site if you're only using the browser, to get other software onto your flash drive. Like GIMP for drawing & Blender for 3D modeling/making your own games cuz Photoshop and Maya too expensive and not portable. There's literally a game that uses Blender as it's engine and was made mostly in it. I think it's on Blender's main site somewhere along with the video Big Buck Bunny (made entirely in Blender too) which inspired the game since you play as the evil squirrel of the video. Fyi, there's some good educational tools from Portable Apps too like a thesaurus and something else cool I can't remember the name of.
@@SudenKardashev What are informatics? Also this is probably a good time to mention that I'm Australian, so I've only had experience with Australian schools.
@@anon8740 a huge part of the world schools don't have lockers \ PCs \ food servers \ school buses and i had experience with all .. i got to know food service when finally I'm at university
IO games were the most fun thing as a kid! Agar.io, slither.io, brutal.io, bonk.io, and all the rest. They were perfect to play when you didn't have your own computer. :)
Just so I can clear this up, I never made this video with the intention of directly copying Miziziziz's video. I started this video back in February and didn't see his until I was already pretty far into working on mine. By that point, I was already far enough into making it that just abandoning the video would be a massive waste of time. If I found his earlier I wouldn't have made this video. We've already talked about all of this through DMs and are cool with each other.
If you have seen his video, check it out since he goes a lot more in-depth than I do: ua-cam.com/video/YCqnD40Q5T8/v-deo.html
Nice!
Ain't that nice
I feel like his was more just about the bots, still good vid but you did yo thang
Just so I can clear this up, I never made this video with the intention of directly copying Miziziziz's video. I started this video back in February and didn't see his until I was already pretty far into working on mine. By that point, I was already far enough into making it that just abandoning the video would be a massive waste of time. If I found his earlier I wouldn't have made this video. We've already talked about all of this through DMs and are cool with each other.
If you have seen his video, check it out since he goes a lot more in-depth than I do: ua-cam.com/video/YCqnD40Q5T8/v-deo.html
thats pretty wacky that you guys just happened to only talk about the same 2 games that have bots, and the same faq on one site. Haha................
I remember when the school blocked most of the .io games so me and my friends thought it was so smart when we played them through google translate.
You and your friend are the peak of human intelligence.
How does that work, please share your intelligence with us
How?
If you insert a link into google translate that's blocked by your school, Google translate doesnt block it. You can bypass the School's rules.
@@J0rgLto gonna try that after lockdown
Who would have thought that a global pandemic was all that was neccessary for Ilyx to upload again?
next upload coming once ww3 hits
@@ilyx3422 see you in june
@@ilyx3422 dude your holding your content ransom
yo kolato
@@ilyx3422 sooo...next month?
What .io game did people in 1920 play?
pol.io
Nice
haH
I almost dropped my ipad after reading this
I don't ge- oh oH OOOHHHHHH
Here before 11k likes :/
Phone companies: *Funding 5G*
IO games: *Developing 8G*
thats not an eight
Its an infinity symbol
@@SkitariiAlpha infinite games is what it stands for :P
He wasn’t wrong when he said he’d be gone forever
For real, at least he’s still recommended
Hope he comes back
Wait what happened to this guy?
@@LeftJoystick he went to brazil
@@frostyonair wait really?
don't forget that voodoo is like: you failed do you want to watch an ad to continue from were you where or just watch an ad?
yes voodoo is just making "io" and just makes ad distributor app not even a game
voodoo is such a bad quote unquote "game creator"
@@KRUSH-R more like ad simulator creator
Using the inspect element console, I was able to make a code that whenever you clicked the screen it would say "Your Click Is Invalid" in a pop out error message, and then called my teachers over to try to fix it.
How lol
@@cactusjupiter8533 wait you don't know? Lol
@@marysartr 8 know hot to change text on screen but that's abb it.
I don't know how to detect mouse impute using it
HOW
You are truly hackerman
Imagine having good enough internet to play .io games
this post was made by the 16 kbps gang
16 kbps gang all the way
Cant even load the replies on this comment o7
Lmao
I may have to remember that when my Internet provider throttles me at the end of the month, which should be any day now.
imagine having 26 ms in south american servers and 300 ms in miami servers
this post wad made by drunk internet gang
Fun fact: I’ve discovered that the material inside Petri dishes is called “Agar”
Petri
@@kingbroseph9773 Darn auto correct!
So thats where it got its name. Cool!
Petr.io
Fun fact: A french town named "Dieppe" was the target of an allied invasion during the second world war.
Mope.io is my favorite one. It has a chat function, so people can call me gay in broken english while I'm hunting them.
Yes
As a hardcore mope player myself, YES. I agree. Somany six year olds who don't know what grammar is camping in groundholes after they (probably failed to) tailbite you begging for their life and spamming "team" and "no kil plssss", H O O O O O O O O , JUSTICE WILLBE SERVED TO THE TAILBITING SCUM!
I used to play mope.io, but then the dev made some really suspicious decisions and has some incredibly weird controversy and an awful past with the community. Not to mention theres now microtransactions
I was looking for this comment!! If you ever see me in game, my name is "covid hehe" 🤪🤙
Deeeep.io also has in-game chat so that nubs call me a hacker
The video reminded me of:
Miziziziz' - ".io Games and The Rise of Fake Multiplayer"
Yeah
Yeah me too. Have you seen him lately?
🤔
Yup
Dude literally copied him
"To pass free time in class" uhh yeah, i was passing "free time"
DEFINITELY “free time”
10:21 I died laughing, so I searched up “Kids Minecraft house gets deleted” and I died laughing twice.
Thanks! Had to die two times as well :D
ua-cam.com/video/A9O1rnkKHFQ/v-deo.html
My school banned agario because it was too violent lol
That's so sad :(
My school banned searching the names of games on Google so yeah..
my school banned everything non related to learning on the school computers
@@nooneimportant2591 bleugh
How is it even remotely violent its just circles merging, splitting and moving.
I don’t remember ever subbing to this channel but this is a good video
Be glad you did sub
my exact thoughts
Same, who is this guy?
You guys probably subscribed to him from the "Easter eggs in reality" or "big plot holes in reality"
Wtf why is that insanely accurate
haha well...
everyone ruins it because school blockers
omg crystall
Oh hi i used to watch you lol you were my childhood
crystal 😂
@@former. yep crystal
The fact that you put Tim and moby in this tugged on my heart strings
I really loved playing Agario in my junior and senior years. 2014-2016. When I try to play it now, it's just been absolutely ruined by all the powerups and ads. Such a shame.
When you find a new channel and its actually good.
STONKS
But they have a random upload schedule STONK crash.
Reddit moment
Finally someone talks about this.
Io games are wow
io games we're my drug
ua-cam.com/video/YCqnD40Q5T8/v-deo.html
@@Sceleri I was waiting for that comment
This channel is underrated, deserves more subs.
Reminder to join the Ilyx Labs discord server and to join #general-2 cult
I found you again
Yes
Aw yiss
@@Konnkord Cee cee cord is a gen2er confirmed??!/1/1?!?1/1?1??!?1
@@graysontinker actually it’s been shut down for 4 months the mods just decided to talk in it yesterday :,((
I remember when I accidently flipped the screen. I was kicked from the school since I was an epic hacker and I was a great danger to the world...
😁: “IO games.”
😳: “10 games.”
4:10 That guard SMACKS that kid and knocks off the hat. lol
.io games were cool at first but then become a big ol cash grab.
Except krunker
bro i still play takepoint.io to this day i have like 400+ hours on it
tetr.io is pretty legit
Well I think skribbl.io is good
Cescobb I forgot that was even an io, it’s just a good browser game
As soon as I saw your name all I could think of was "Half Life Ilyx" and now I can't unthink it
Why. Why did you do this to me.
Well well well i see there is another comrade here
Bored Weeb how do I keep encountering people with the same profile picture
bruhh
Thank you. I wanted to understand why people think they way they do and you explain it so well it feels so simple. I feel loved that you wanted to help me understand your point in the easiest way you could. You earned my love fam and i know for a fact you deserve it with no doubt in my mind.
I haven't seen BrainPOP in years!! and when I saw Moby in the video I just had to see it again And let me tell you It's still amazing😋
I remember playing agar.io on my ipad in somewhere around 2015? and the servers were just FILLED to the BRIM. Resources scarce, literal walls of other huge blobs just constantly eating players and the small dots spawning INSIDE THEM.
That's right, inside them. So getting big was impossible. And dont get me wrong the map in agar.io is HUGE. It was that popular
Actually, there's a whole moon full of io gamers
This guy has been making this video for over a year, You got my respect chief
Your videos are just hilarious and really well edited, keep up the good work and content!
Please post another video soon. I already binged all of your content tonight after just finding your channel. I was sad to see you haven’t posted in over 5 months😢
"Using inspect element" I wish, my highschool blocked INSPECT of all things on our laptops.
Could you still flip the screen
@@chasek0746 yeah, but that's only half of the criteria to become able to hack the Pentagon, so my school stunted my epic hacker man future.
PuppeteerGaming F, the fun you can have with the inspect element is unmatched and once you figure out how to open command prompt oh you can bet the schools computers are not gonna have a fun time
A friend made himself admin on the school network
There's a javascript thing that, when put in the bookmarks and clicked, free inspect element!
When the splix.io teamed teams starts war with the other teamed teams starting a 45 minute long conflict with the neighboring class.
“The impact of the internet is as great as penicillin”
Me, allergic to penicillin: uh-
Same
Same
Same
(also nice pfp)
Ayy allergic to penicillin gang
I'm so sorry
7:05 prophetic 😔 miss ilyx, he was a good channel
I’m glad there is still people like us keeping his channel alive
7:04 he wasnt kidding
Aged well
i remember there was an io game that actually embraced the idea of bots and low player counts, and they made the objective of the game to figure out who wasn't a bot and kill them or something like that. pretty fun actually
dude i wanna play that so badly now
yo that actually sounds so fun
FINALLY YESSS U UPLOADED
CyberCypress WF FRRR i always watch his videos over and over and have notifications on
thank you for saying some of my childhood .io games
you did'nt say all of them but you said the BIG influential ones :D
also lol 8:05 hi conner I love u
When you missread the title as a "Ten games" instead of "Io games"
I missread the title and thumbnail as iq games
I've actually played .IO games on the last day of school so you're right on point
who hasn't
Me: **Gets capitol one shopping ad**
Me: "so your Honey"
Ad: ""No.... but yes."
Scientists: Robots will take over humans!
also scientists:**makes more super intelligent robots**
RIP flash 1996-2020
It shall not grow old.
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!! I hope he can make more!
This is my favorite ilyx video
This guy seems to be in my school cuz he’s just describing my everyday school life.
Io games are just like real life
You make up imaginary friends but then realise that they never were there and you had no friends
❤
@Captain Bruh edgy=funny
A browser game that only 1910s kids will know
World War I.O
Oh no lol
Funny comment
Give like
Wario
Pol.io
Don't forget the sequel that only 30's and 40's kids will know.
7:07 damn you weren’t lying
0:16 I love how Entertainment and Watching People Shuck Oysters are two separate categories for you
From the perspective of a millennial:
Experience of students messing around in class:
Boomers: Passing notes and playing simple games like tic-tac-toe.
Gen X: Music is life. Navarra, Iron Maiden, and Green Day.
Millennials: Ipods, Coolmathgames, and linerider.
Zoomers: IO games and all the things you can do with your phones nowadays.
(I might not be 100% accurate, feel free to tell me if I am off and what would be a better option for your generation)
A lot of Gen Z had Coolmath and flash games too!
@@yahkimicki236 Of course, I am just doing a general summary. No doubt Gen Z uses Coolmathgames as well, cause it was one of those approved game sites for school lol
What about counterstrike
I missed out on linerider, lol. But somehow the people in my old high school had played Halo during some classes. I think that I'm Gen X/Millenials cuz I was born early 90s and recall floppy disks but got introduced to UA-cam & Panic! At the Disco in 8th grade and I remember bringing my Green Day CD to high school once.
“There already in their way to hack the pentagon.” This line makes me think of when me and my friend shut down the school internet for a week
..how did this happen? i need to hear this
Tell me how it happened too
Ok so me and my friend found a weird program on the Crome book and it said something like “turn off internet” and at first we were like “uh does this actually work” and we turned off the internet for like 5 minutes and it actually went down. We said f it and turned it off for a week and we didn’t really do anything since most of the stuff was online. And no one found out it was us lol
@@vitaminbleach1217 thats actually amazing i want to do this
@@ashaler__ sorry I forgot the command to bring it up.
Yo that’s dunkeys masterpiece: “the great yoshi migration”
7:16 Moomoo.io (Normal things) Zombs.io (Survive zombies)
7:20 Hordz.io and lordz.io
7:23 Surviv.io and zombsroyale.io
7:27 Agar.io, Diep.io and Slither.io
Man i love how i'm being taught what to do if i want something. I know schools want to teach it as well but they aren't taking the time to sit us down and help us to reach a mutual understanding. Not onesided, i know for a fact no one wants that because it's frustrating to not understanding their point and feel like they don't trust me which breaks my heart as i know most of you show with anger sadness and depression as a way to show a warning sign that should be easy to understand but doesn't seem to work which makes all the effort feel pointless since i know that feeling because i went through it too. All of us are not alone, please don't close your heart off to us we want to understand. Let us know when you want to speak in what we all should know is the easiest method......communication that isn't onesided and not talked over or yelling that feels like an attack that we don't want to experience. We want to feel heard, we want to feel loved, and we all want to be happy knowing that we understand each other. Don't betray all of our trust in each other and let us understand that you want to teach us and protect us from our naivety that would kill us when we don't pay attention to the dangers we all know are all around us. i want to feel safe wherever i go knowing that when i die i know i can do so in peace because i know i can trust anyone like family and do what's best for me since i know they would want the same as well. thank you all, I love you all!
when i was 9 i learned inspect
i made my homeschool website say MAKE YOUR KID BARF
My school blocked all the good games. Not even coolmathgames, press f to pay respects.
Has no one here heard of proxy servers?
My school banned io games before quarantine commited exist
Search for Tor Project on duckduckgo in a Private/Incognito tab and put the browser on a flash drive (or get the Operating System called Tails onto the flash drive).
Portable Apps site has a bunch of software you can add to the flash drive too, like Blender which can be used to make games if you are smart, or at least 3D objects. It's literally an engine and a 3D modeling software. There's a game on the official Blender site too somewhere iirc, completely free, based on one of two cool videos made in it too.
You're welcome.
Man i still remember how bad teamers are in Agario.
I used to Step on teamers in Experimental mode and Team Mode.
I was literally carrying my whole team in Team Mode.
I know almost all the Split Techniques back then.
Like from the Classic Double splits to the Cross Feed splits.
This is pretty good editing!
0:32…
*…my public elementary school had Apple computers and laptops. So did my public middle school*
No one asked. Apple pcs are trash
I'm jealous cuz I heard that Macs are mandatory for graphic design.
8:35 I had the same exact experience I was so mad 😂
That moment when your school’s too high level and the only unblocked games are google snake and solitaire.
Tor Browser, preferably on a flash drive since they modded Firefox Portable to make it. Or be next level and put the Tails Operating System on the flash drive and just change the boot order of the school computers to load from USB first before loading from the harddrive. It's made by the same people as Tor Browser because it's all part of the Tor Project made to protect privacy.
If possible don't use the school computers for acquiring Tor/Tails, use home computer or public library for it. If you have to use school ones to get it, then Private/Incognito tab & search for Tor Project via the duckduckgo website. Also, check out Portable Apps site if you're only using the browser, to get other software onto your flash drive. Like GIMP for drawing & Blender for 3D modeling/making your own games cuz Photoshop and Maya too expensive and not portable.
There's literally a game that uses Blender as it's engine and was made mostly in it. I think it's on Blender's main site somewhere along with the video Big Buck Bunny (made entirely in Blender too) which inspired the game since you play as the evil squirrel of the video.
Fyi, there's some good educational tools from Portable Apps too like a thesaurus and something else cool I can't remember the name of.
My school even blocked those :/
My school had a small oversight on the chrome books where you could log into your own google play store account and download whatever game you wanted.
You deserve so many more views!
Just need one pandemic to bring him back
My school disabled inspect element, whenever I try to access it, it doesn’t let me click inspect.
There's a way to view the html of any site on Chrome browser that doesn't require inspect element. Just do a duckduckgo search in Incognito tab.
I remember in elementary my entire class would go up against one another in a knockoff agaio browser because agario was blocked
You, were the first comment
can we take a moment to appreciate his editing? it was perfect
love stumbling on gems like this channel
REPEAT AFTER ME: IT’S NOT A BROWSER GAME IF IT AIN’T A FLASH GAME!
Pro Hole.io gamer here: I also win all my games, we two must be supreme gods of this game
Hahah, our computers werent hooked up to the internet.
7:06 "And then vanish forever... like me" Damn.
This guys quite possibly the mists underrated UA-camr there is
My school just blocks a game whenever someone plays themi was faster at clicking the roblox play button than it could be autoblocked
Diep.io is my favorite I literally played that game for years
Wait, you guys are getting computers in school?
What do you mean? We've had computers in school for over a decade now.
@@anon8740 a lot of schools dont have a minimum of informatics and computers on schools..
@@SudenKardashev What are informatics? Also this is probably a good time to mention that I'm Australian, so I've only had experience with Australian schools.
@@anon8740 Informatics is the class that's all about computer stuff.
@@anon8740 a huge part of the world
schools don't have lockers \ PCs \ food servers \ school buses
and i had experience with all .. i got to know food service when finally I'm at university
DEIP was the best one. Actual non-fake multiplayer, progression and customization, processor-light, and still easy to learn.
IO games were the most fun thing as a kid! Agar.io, slither.io, brutal.io, bonk.io, and all the rest. They were perfect to play when you didn't have your own computer. :)
"It is the last day of school"
Oh yes, says every 2020 Senior
This whole video is full of JoJo references
All videos are full of jojo references. Do you believe in gravity?
Only real Zoomers remember looking up diep.io builds to out level their friends
I love this UA-camr; he’s just great 😄
I love how extremely chill his voice is!
Harmacist 2nd comment gang
Ok but how could you forget the original, cursor.io ?
No one knows, no one.
I’m actually surprised at how good in quality krunker.io is
Peter Jones i used to play pro in that game haha it was so fun
and Zombsroyale.io
its actually huge
"Vanish forever like me" Ur right there.
9:56 GERMAN TECHNOLOGY IS THE BEST IN THE WORRRRLLLDDDD. 😭🤣🤣🤣
Humans. We love to eat dots in.
The 20th century.
EDIT: 21st century lol.
Oofff
Move to the Indian ocean territory to Instantly have 1 ping on all io games
Sweet, booked a vessel. To secure your cabin, simply provide credit card details.
Did you just watch "The rise of .io games and fake multiplayer" and decide to make your .io clone of a video
You got browser games.
Yeah... I-i to-tottally do. Def_definitally no-not blocked
*sniff
Your getting really good at this UA-cam thing