I feel like I should mention that you forgot a few things. Name Change: While the name change for the film did happen because for marketing reasons, there were other reasons for it, one or two of which relate to The Vietnam War, which was going on at the time. Augustus Lost In Language: Michael Bollner didn’t know much English back when the 1971 film was being made, which resulted in him only having a handful of lines, so I guess it was handy for him that Augustus was the first one gone, and never said much in the book, anyway. Mike The Psycho: In the 1971 film, Mike comes off as somewhat of a psychopath, possibly due to how Paris Themmen portrays him. He shows genuine excitement in the creepy tunnel scene (and even asks his mom afterwards why they never see stuff like that on TV), and when Veruca is is trashing the golden egg room, and before and after getting shrunk, and in his interview, he talks about wanting to own a gun when he’s older, hence his father’s line: “Not till you’re twelve, son!” Speaking of which, what kind of father WILLINGLY lets his preteen son use a REAL gun?! Violet Versus Veruca: In both of the movies, Violet and Veruca seem to have some sort of rivalry. In the 1971 movie, Violet kept telling Veruca to shut up when she would start whining about wanting something, and in the 2005 movie, they agreed to be best friends, when they clearly had no interest in it, and after Violet got turned into a blueberry, Veruca even suggested entering her in a county fair to her mother. There was actually some real life inspiration for their rivalry, which brings me to the next fact. Charlie The Chick Magnet: During production of the 1971 movie, Denise Nickerson and Julie Dawn Cole, who played Violet and Veruca, both developed gigantic crushes on Peter Ostrum, who played Charlie. At first, they would fight over him constantly, but in the end, they worked out a deal where they would take turns hanging out with him, and he even tried to be equally nice to both of them. When Mel Stuart noticed this, he decided to include a few scenes of the girls squabbling as an inside joke. Wizard Willy Wonka: I once heard a theory about the 1971 movie that ties in with the Harry Potter franchise, and it’s that Willy Wonka is actually Ron Weasley’s brother, George, because of the number of similarities between them, listed here: A. Remember how after graduating from Hogwarts, Fred and George opened a joke shop/sweet shop called Weasley’s Wizard Wheezes? The theory is that George emigrated to America or Germany or wherever the film is set to expand his business, as well as open it up to muggles, and that Willy Wonka was a secret identity for him. B. Wonka says that he’s a bit deaf in one ear, and George suffered a pretty bad ear injury in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. So maybe Wonka wasn’t lying when he said he had trouble hearing! C. The reason Wonka makes such amazing and outlandish sweets could be at least partially due to magic. D. Remember how Wonka makes butterscotch and buttergin? Well, There’s a drink in Harry Potter called butterbeer! E. The reason Wonka has everything in his office cut in half could be a nod to George losing his twin brother, Fred, who died fighting in The Battle Of Hogwarts. Speaking of office, let’s move onto the next fact. Wonka’s Office: The reason everything in Wonka’s office is cut in half is that the filmmakers originally designed it like a normal office, but thought it looked too boring, bland and cramped, so they had everything sawed in half. One of the propmakers even got carried away and cut the coffee machine in half, thinking it was one of the props, and he didn’t realise his mistake until he spilled coffee everywhere! Charlie’s Dad: The absence of Charlie’s dad always confused me, too, but I have heard and/or thought of a few theories about it. A. One theory is that Willy Wonka is Charlie’ dad. The theory is that Wonka once had a one night stand with Charlie’s mom, which resulted in her becoming pregnant with Charlie. When Wonka discovered that he had a son he never knew about, he felt guilty about not being a part of his life, and started a secretly rigged contest for him to win ownership of the chocolate factory, so he could then reveal the truth to him. I personally find this one a little hard to believe, due to Charlie being in touch with all of his grandparents. You would he could just ask them and his mother who his father was, right? B. This is one that I personally believe, even before I read about it. Given the time the movie came out, it’s possible that Charlie’s dad was sent to fight in The Vietnam War, and that his absence was one of the reasons for their financial difficulties. Since his family talks about him as if he’s no longer alive, he was probably killed in action, or at least is presumed to be dead, which I would personally go with, to some possibility of him still being alive. As for the possible cause of his death, I would say that he was a fighter pilot, and was presumably killed in a plane crash. I had some real life inspiration for this, since as you mentioned, Roald Dahl was a fighter pilot in World War Two, and also been in a plane crash, which he narrowly survived despite the serious damage done to his spine. C. This isn’t a theory, but a personal opinion of mine. While I’m not a fan of cutting out characters, I think it would have made more sense to cut out Charlie’s other grandparents, since they don’t really have much purpose to the plot. This way, Charlie’s mom and dad could probably be given larger roles in the series, and maybe even come on the tour with him and Grandpa Joe.
Black Buckets: Like The Oompa-Loompas, Charlie and his family were originally black, but publishers advised Roald Dahl that the original plot and title (Charlie’s Chocolate Boy), the fact that they lived in poverty, and to top it all off, the fact that Charlie was ACTUALLY described as “a little negro boy” could VERY easily gain a lot of complaints about racism. As a result, the Buckets have always been portrayed as white. Missing Children: As well as Miranda Piker, there were several other bratty kids cut out of the book. They were Wilbur Rice and Tommy Troutbeck, who went joyriding on some railway wagons carrying fudge from The Vanilla Fudge Room to The Cutting And Pounding Room, Clarence Crump, Bertie Upside and Terence Roper, who ate several Warming Candies, resulting in them overheating and having to be put in a giant fridge to cool down, as well as Sebastian Rattle, Barbara Forlorn, Mary Grope and Marvin Prune. Original Names: Excluding Charlie Bucket, the children who stayed in the story had different names, at first. Augustus Gloop was Augustus Pottle, Violet Beauregarde was Violet Glockenberry, then Violet Strabismus, Veruca Salt was Elvira Entwhistle, then Veruca Cruz, and Mike Teavee was Henry Trout, then Herpes Trout. Violet Should Have Won: Whether intentional or not, Violet usually (if not always) comes off as the most redeemable, sympathetic and/or tragic of all the bratty children. In fact, some have made surprisingly good arguments that, at least in the 1971 film, she would have made just as good of an heir as Charlie. Here are some reasons why: 1. Her personality flaw, an interest in candy, is very fitting for the position. 2. She is already very business savvy, and could easily learn more from her father. 3. During her interview, Violet says that in order to find the golden ticket, she temporarily gave up gum and switched to chocolate. This shows that she has at least some self-discipline and that she actively tried to find it. Mike apparently got his golden ticket out of dumb luck, Charlie was somewhere in the middle, Augustus got his from overeating, and Veruca demanded one from her parents, resulting in her father making his factory workers open chocolate bars for days. To be honest, that last one sounds like cheating. 4. Violet shows sympathy towards The Oompa-Loompas. She calls out Veruca when she demands for one, and when she eats the three-course dinner chewing gum, it shows that she is ready and willing to put herself on the front lines, instead of getting any employees to do the hard parts. 5. When Violet correctly guessed what the gum was, Mr Wonka told her she was incorrect, for a laugh, so when he warned her not to eat it, she probably thought he was just messing with her, again. Not to mention, while the others cause some sort of damage in the other rooms, Violet only causes damage to herself. 6. While Mike and Veruca were both confirmed to have accepted the bribe from Slugworth, Violet was not, which leaves it open for interpretation. (The same could be said about Augustus, but he never even got an Everlasting Gobstopper, and most likely would have kept it to himself, anyway.) Music Genres: In the 2005 film, the songs for the bratty kids are all based on different musical eras, Broadway for Augustus, Disco for Violet, Psychadelic for Veruca and Rock for Mike. Appearances in The Simpsons: After a discussion in the comments on another video, I now have a feeling that all five golden ticket winners appear in The Simpsons, all grown up. Augustus became Werner Herzog (He even outright confirms this, himself!), Veruca became Mrs Vanderbilt, Violet became Piper Paisley, Mike became The Rich Texan and Charlie became Goose Gladwell (He is a Willy Wonka parody, need I say more?) If I think of anything else, I will let you know.
I just watched 2023’s Wonka and the og Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory back to back and have been kind of getting obsessed with the Wonka franchise as of late. This iceberg was just what I need to ponder the Wonka lore. Great work! 👍
1:17:07 They could've just drawn a part of the book in a unique art style(?). Like, what even is this though? It's not Wonka, not Charlie and Grandpa Joe or anything in the book. They're just random dolls!
I haven’t finished this video yet but I’m over halfway through and it’s been amazing so far!!! Though i would’ve liked if you mentioned the musical version of Mike Teavee’s parents during your ‘abusive parents’ section. Like certain versions feel WAY too dark in my opinion. Like, his mom is more explicitly an alcoholic and would strap him to a chair to keep him from acting up, and his father was heavily implied to have abandoned him. Also Mike set cats on fire and stole a tank??? And during his song it says that he doesn’t have a soul???
I am a huge catcf fan and knew a lot of this, but this was a hilarious way to find out that xxxtentacion straight up has an album called ‘willy wonka is a child murderer’ LOL
(Warning: Abuse) about the Abusive parents in the 2005 one, I have a feeling that Violet's mother, Scarlett is not abusing her psychical, but emotional abuse, Or both maybe, But still, Violets parents are just cruel (She is still a brat tho)
This video should way more views than it has. You did such I amazing job
I feel like I should mention that you forgot a few things.
Name Change: While the name change for the film did happen because for marketing reasons, there were other reasons for it, one or two of which relate to The Vietnam War, which was going on at the time.
Augustus Lost In Language: Michael Bollner didn’t know much English back when the 1971 film was being made, which resulted in him only having a handful of lines, so I guess it was handy for him that Augustus was the first one gone, and never said much in the book, anyway.
Mike The Psycho: In the 1971 film, Mike comes off as somewhat of a psychopath, possibly due to how Paris Themmen portrays him. He shows genuine excitement in the creepy tunnel scene (and even asks his mom afterwards why they never see stuff like that on TV), and when Veruca is is trashing the golden egg room, and before and after getting shrunk, and in his interview, he talks about wanting to own a gun when he’s older, hence his father’s line: “Not till you’re twelve, son!” Speaking of which, what kind of father WILLINGLY lets his preteen son use a REAL gun?!
Violet Versus Veruca: In both of the movies, Violet and Veruca seem to have some sort of rivalry. In the 1971 movie, Violet kept telling Veruca to shut up when she would start whining about wanting something, and in the 2005 movie, they agreed to be best friends, when they clearly had no interest in it, and after Violet got turned into a blueberry, Veruca even suggested entering her in a county fair to her mother. There was actually some real life inspiration for their rivalry, which brings me to the next fact.
Charlie The Chick Magnet: During production of the 1971 movie, Denise Nickerson and Julie Dawn Cole, who played Violet and Veruca, both developed gigantic crushes on Peter Ostrum, who played Charlie. At first, they would fight over him constantly, but in the end, they worked out a deal where they would take turns hanging out with him, and he even tried to be equally nice to both of them. When Mel Stuart noticed this, he decided to include a few scenes of the girls squabbling as an inside joke.
Wizard Willy Wonka: I once heard a theory about the 1971 movie that ties in with the Harry Potter franchise, and it’s that Willy Wonka is actually Ron Weasley’s brother, George, because of the number of similarities between them, listed here: A. Remember how after graduating from Hogwarts, Fred and George opened a joke shop/sweet shop called Weasley’s Wizard Wheezes? The theory is that George emigrated to America or Germany or wherever the film is set to expand his business, as well as open it up to muggles, and that Willy Wonka was a secret identity for him. B. Wonka says that he’s a bit deaf in one ear, and George suffered a pretty bad ear injury in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. So maybe Wonka wasn’t lying when he said he had trouble hearing! C. The reason Wonka makes such amazing and outlandish sweets could be at least partially due to magic. D. Remember how Wonka makes butterscotch and buttergin? Well, There’s a drink in Harry Potter called butterbeer! E. The reason Wonka has everything in his office cut in half could be a nod to George losing his twin brother, Fred, who died fighting in The Battle Of Hogwarts. Speaking of office, let’s move onto the next fact.
Wonka’s Office: The reason everything in Wonka’s office is cut in half is that the filmmakers originally designed it like a normal office, but thought it looked too boring, bland and cramped, so they had everything sawed in half. One of the propmakers even got carried away and cut the coffee machine in half, thinking it was one of the props, and he didn’t realise his mistake until he spilled coffee everywhere!
Charlie’s Dad: The absence of Charlie’s dad always confused me, too, but I have heard and/or thought of a few theories about it. A. One theory is that Willy Wonka is Charlie’ dad. The theory is that Wonka once had a one night stand with Charlie’s mom, which resulted in her becoming pregnant with Charlie. When Wonka discovered that he had a son he never knew about, he felt guilty about not being a part of his life, and started a secretly rigged contest for him to win ownership of the chocolate factory, so he could then reveal the truth to him. I personally find this one a little hard to believe, due to Charlie being in touch with all of his grandparents. You would he could just ask them and his mother who his father was, right? B. This is one that I personally believe, even before I read about it. Given the time the movie came out, it’s possible that Charlie’s dad was sent to fight in The Vietnam War, and that his absence was one of the reasons for their financial difficulties. Since his family talks about him as if he’s no longer alive, he was probably killed in action, or at least is presumed to be dead, which I would personally go with, to some possibility of him still being alive. As for the possible cause of his death, I would say that he was a fighter pilot, and was presumably killed in a plane crash. I had some real life inspiration for this, since as you mentioned, Roald Dahl was a fighter pilot in World War Two, and also been in a plane crash, which he narrowly survived despite the serious damage done to his spine. C. This isn’t a theory, but a personal opinion of mine. While I’m not a fan of cutting out characters, I think it would have made more sense to cut out Charlie’s other grandparents, since they don’t really have much purpose to the plot. This way, Charlie’s mom and dad could probably be given larger roles in the series, and maybe even come on the tour with him and Grandpa Joe.
Black Buckets: Like The Oompa-Loompas, Charlie and his family were originally black, but publishers advised Roald Dahl that the original plot and title (Charlie’s Chocolate Boy), the fact that they lived in poverty, and to top it all off, the fact that Charlie was ACTUALLY described as “a little negro boy” could VERY easily gain a lot of complaints about racism. As a result, the Buckets have always been portrayed as white.
Missing Children: As well as Miranda Piker, there were several other bratty kids cut out of the book. They were Wilbur Rice and Tommy Troutbeck, who went joyriding on some railway wagons carrying fudge from The Vanilla Fudge Room to The Cutting And Pounding Room, Clarence Crump, Bertie Upside and Terence Roper, who ate several Warming Candies, resulting in them overheating and having to be put in a giant fridge to cool down, as well as Sebastian Rattle, Barbara Forlorn, Mary Grope and Marvin Prune.
Original Names: Excluding Charlie Bucket, the children who stayed in the story had different names, at first. Augustus Gloop was Augustus Pottle, Violet Beauregarde was Violet Glockenberry, then Violet Strabismus, Veruca Salt was Elvira Entwhistle, then Veruca Cruz, and Mike Teavee was Henry Trout, then Herpes Trout.
Violet Should Have Won: Whether intentional or not, Violet usually (if not always) comes off as the most redeemable, sympathetic and/or tragic of all the bratty children. In fact, some have made surprisingly good arguments that, at least in the 1971 film, she would have made just as good of an heir as Charlie. Here are some reasons why: 1. Her personality flaw, an interest in candy, is very fitting for the position. 2. She is already very business savvy, and could easily learn more from her father. 3. During her interview, Violet says that in order to find the golden ticket, she temporarily gave up gum and switched to chocolate. This shows that she has at least some self-discipline and that she actively tried to find it. Mike apparently got his golden ticket out of dumb luck, Charlie was somewhere in the middle, Augustus got his from overeating, and Veruca demanded one from her parents, resulting in her father making his factory workers open chocolate bars for days. To be honest, that last one sounds like cheating. 4. Violet shows sympathy towards The Oompa-Loompas. She calls out Veruca when she demands for one, and when she eats the three-course dinner chewing gum, it shows that she is ready and willing to put herself on the front lines, instead of getting any employees to do the hard parts. 5. When Violet correctly guessed what the gum was, Mr Wonka told her she was incorrect, for a laugh, so when he warned her not to eat it, she probably thought he was just messing with her, again. Not to mention, while the others cause some sort of damage in the other rooms, Violet only causes damage to herself. 6. While Mike and Veruca were both confirmed to have accepted the bribe from Slugworth, Violet was not, which leaves it open for interpretation. (The same could be said about Augustus, but he never even got an Everlasting Gobstopper, and most likely would have kept it to himself, anyway.)
Music Genres: In the 2005 film, the songs for the bratty kids are all based on different musical eras, Broadway for Augustus, Disco for Violet, Psychadelic for Veruca and Rock for Mike.
Appearances in The Simpsons: After a discussion in the comments on another video, I now have a feeling that all five golden ticket winners appear in The Simpsons, all grown up. Augustus became Werner Herzog (He even outright confirms this, himself!), Veruca became Mrs Vanderbilt, Violet became Piper Paisley, Mike became The Rich Texan and Charlie became Goose Gladwell (He is a Willy Wonka parody, need I say more?)
If I think of anything else, I will let you know.
The end was fire 😭
Great job on finding and compiling all of these facts!
I just watched 2023’s Wonka and the og Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory back to back and have been kind of getting obsessed with the Wonka franchise as of late. This iceberg was just what I need to ponder the Wonka lore. Great work! 👍
1:17:07
They could've just drawn a part of the book in a unique art style(?). Like, what even is this though? It's not Wonka, not Charlie and Grandpa Joe or anything in the book. They're just random dolls!
Just have to say, can’t believe this dosent have more views
Can you turn up the music I can’t hear it
I'm gonna say that the Guru scene will be in some sorta 60/100 year anniversary DVD, fully recovered in HD
I haven’t finished this video yet but I’m over halfway through and it’s been amazing so far!!! Though i would’ve liked if you mentioned the musical version of Mike Teavee’s parents during your ‘abusive parents’ section. Like certain versions feel WAY too dark in my opinion. Like, his mom is more explicitly an alcoholic and would strap him to a chair to keep him from acting up, and his father was heavily implied to have abandoned him. Also Mike set cats on fire and stole a tank??? And during his song it says that he doesn’t have a soul???
I think that The Mad Hatter from Alice in wonderland and Willy Wonka is the same person
I mean TBF both the Mad Hatter and Wonka - specifically the 2005 one - are both played by Johnny Depp
I am a huge catcf fan and knew a lot of this, but this was a hilarious way to find out that xxxtentacion straight up has an album called ‘willy wonka is a child murderer’ LOL
Ah yes, the S C O O P ! My favorite candy!
Where can I find the original Lost scripts with the Fudge and The 15 kids????
2008 fashion magazine part like the you said it sir it’s funny 😂😂😂
Great video really interesting and i think you forgot to mention the missing rhymes in the book.
the iceberg forgot to mention the very obscure scrapped 90’s animated willy wonka and the chocolate factory film
2:31 I ❤ pekachao
What is that scene infamous on the internet? 15:36
the title says "trvia" instead of "trivia"
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about the Abusive parents in the 2005 one, I have a feeling that Violet's mother, Scarlett is not abusing her psychical, but emotional abuse, Or both maybe, But still, Violets parents are just cruel (She is still a brat tho)
It's called the Wonkatania, Not Wonka Tony ah lol on god man
OMG I SAW THAT COIN PUSHER AT A FAIR AND I GOT TWO CARDS