Such a great and also "followable" break down dude. Everything you explain is CLEAR and visible with a physics reason behind it. I've thrown sooooo much farther working this weight shift into a slower run up - almost opposite from my old run up XD. Keep this stuff coming man!
This was great. I switched to this slower style after seeing you on LVC coverage and it’s helped a ton! I’m looking forward to seeing your forehand video too.
Outstanding, thanks for breaking this down! About 8 months ago I asked you a question about what you think about on your slow walk up smash drives, I think it was a trilogy disc vid, and you said, "...the biggest things for me are getting my hips rotated back, getting the disc away from my body in the reach back and pulling the disc ahead of my shoulders at the hit point. But overall it’s key to be in an athletic stance and have your body work as one unit." This comment was worth more than gold. Working on this and discovering the wide rail (Bradley Walker, Spin and Throw disc golf) put my "crush" drives from less than 300' to well over 400' (which is huge for me!) It took half a year of breaking old habits and making new ones, but thanks to you and other pros who have been willing to answer questions, my game has jumped to the point where I'm parking drives to baskets that a lot of my disc golf buddies have trouble parking on their third shot.
Ironically I was watching one of Danny Lindahl's vids a few days ago and in the comments I mentioned being a 2x cancer survivor and that my body isn't what it used to be and asked for tips and people recommended I look you up and low and behold you just posted this :D
Great video... I throw similar to this method. I walk at about a 90 angle to the point of throwing. Then turn and pivot with controlled power into the throw. I am almost 60 years old, but I can throw over 380 ft. It is easier on the knees. Even Macbeth has a fairly slow run up.
I keep coming back to this video as I figure everything out. Just focusing on one or two of these tips at a time is slowly adding more and more distance to my drives.
Thank you for this video. I got introduced to disc golf last fall, but didn't really start trying to improve until a couple months ago. Still, nearly all my throws the disc would fly nose-up, stall, and fall out of the sky. After watching this I realized I was basically sprinting to the front of the tee box and finally took the time to slow my run up to a walk and it was like being inside of a magic trick. I'm now throwing flat and actually able to start working on other parts of my form. "Nothing gets better by going faster" is quite literally stuck in my head now. Thank you so much!
Wow look how far the left foot is behind the right! What a brace! This all because you just naturally walk to 45* to target. Everything just gets into place without you having to do much. Cant wait to throw tonight.
Thanks for this video. Slow motion analysis is the only way I can really pick up what better players are doing. It really helps to see it in detail versus just watching someone rip it in three seconds .
This video helped me so much. The hip movement you showed made it clear I wasn’t loading mine all the way. I gained about 40 ft after practicing it. Thanks.
Now I understand why I pull most of my shots, and the more i pull them, the farther they go. I just need to shift to the more extreme angle you suggest here. Thanks Tristan
I've watched a LOT of form videos, but none have translated to results as directly immediately as this one. What helped me was talking about how you get the hips turning, particularly the back foot, which is rarely mentioned.
Watching you, Simon and Paige Pierce videos I've dramatically improved my consistency, and my distance is completely off the charts. I could get 350' max for the most part, maybe stretching it to 385 when I got lucky. Now, I can throw my drivers pushing 500' and rarely pull them out because my 9 speed fairways are going over 400! By the way, buy a Falk, try this disc out. I can push a Falk on a frozen rope, dead straight 400 ft. You're completely right, SLOW your feet down. Once I figured this out and was able to get my hips and body loaded right, the distance came immediately! Try to focus on the timing of transferring your weight from your back foot to your front plant foot at the point of getting into the power pocket to maximize distance.
Thank you! It's nice to hear what your thought process is in the throw. I have been doing tons of field work and have seen gains, but often the "why" of the mechanics gets lost in other form videos. I moved my plant foot out a bit and widened my last step based on your breakdown and was getting an extra 25 feet today. I know I need to work on better weight transfer. I know why based on this. Again, thank you.
This is possibly the most helpful video I’ve seen for this. I have been almost exclusively sidearm for a while, because I don’t throw a backhand very well. I look forward to trying this out. Thanks.
After trying some of this advice out, I threw at a local course on a hole that I haven’t reached the pin before, and threw it past the basket and across the street!
I have been playing since 1999. This is how I used to throw, but other videos tell me I'm wrong. I am going back to the way I used to throw and feel good about it. It just feels so natural to me. Thank you for the validation! I love your step by step instruction. Best dang lesson I have had in a long time. Perfect!!
Great video, but you need to get yourself some slomo camera with more frames/sec 😉 Say that you need to rip a power shot off tee, in the grass/gravel etc, how do you handle the power going down that right foot rotating. I tried and boy did I take a fall in the wet grass 😂 The line of body mass on the tee is interesting. You're going pretty much fully diagonal with the toe of end left foot being in middle and the extending out left corner to really get that spring motion. I guess the farther left you step, the farther away you need to keep your disc from the body. Cause with that big left side step at the end, you're still pointing straight from target with that reach back arm, looks great! So much to take in, gotta get out there and try! Hope to see you in Skellefteå some day. Keep those tech videos coming 👍🥇
Unfortunately it was just the viewer I was using bc this was filmed in plenty enough slow mo(120fps). It take some getting sided to for sure! I definitely want to get to Sweden at some point!
Awesome video, Tristan! I have actually tried to copy your style in general, focusing on that hip/shoulder rotation and weight shift. As you say, it takes a bit of getting used to, but I can already notice a big difference in decreased fatigue, less wear and tear on joints, and while I don't have much added distance yet, my accuracy and precision is better due to slowing down in the 'walk-up' (can hardly call it a run-up anymore). :) Keep up the great work! I'm excited to check out your website too. Congratulations!
13:55 Takes thumb off disc. Josh Anthon does something similar. I do the same thing in ball golf at the very top of the backswing with the driver but didn't know I was right away.
Lot of new stuff in this video I haven’t seen before! One thing I’d disagree with is when you said to not look at your throw until it is around 100 feet away from you (for people who turn their head forward early). I believe that because people are driving at such different speeds, the suggestion should be based on the shoulders coming through to push the head forward naturally, not the distance your disc has traveled.
In mcbeth and sexton tutorial they say not to curl your wrist. They say you will get all snap you need from straight wrist. Paul mentioned curled wrist means you can't pull the disc as close to ur body and get into power pocket as well. Guess both ways work.
Yep I have read differing recommendations also. I am a newbie and find if I do curl it just slightly, it really does seem to come out with noticeably more spin.
This is a good point. I think the majority of players are held back from a more open wrist position or at least fall back to a open wrist. I am included in that group and that just what I have found works for me!
I saw you at centennial the other day. Pretty sure you saw me throw my very first shot straight into the creek and hop in after it. I definitely need this video. lol
I’ve had a few meniscus surgeries on my right knee (plant leg) and it’s sooo hard for me to brace hard and keep my foot turned 90 degrees. It opens naturally because it so badly doesn’t want the knee to feel any pressure. Sucks but I’m trying !! Got my forehand game on point lol
Gotta try to slow down my x-step while I throw distance drivers. I noticed that I gained distance and accuracy to my sidearm game by slowing my run-up into a slow walk. My midrange and putter throws are super comfortable and they're slow and smooth but my distance shots don't feel good. Feels like that loss of power you're talking about. Great video and analysis!
wow i was just working on a very similar video before i got injured. Your channel is an inspiration bro. kept me entertained all through the off season and this pandemic. thanks!
I had watched this video last year and actually noticed something rewatching it. Most videos I've watched once the disc gets past a pro's chest the front foot will start to open at about the same time. But in your throw it's delayed. The disc is actually out of your hand before your front foot opens. I feel like that would put torque on your knee because your hips are rotating but your knee is locked in place. Not that I'm an expert by any means lol just a thought.
The form videos I’ve watched have said to not rotate until the disc is released because you want the torque transferred to your upper body, and rotation of the foot releases the torque. As long as you’re transferring from the knee to the upper body, releasing and then rotating properly it shouldn’t stress the knee much, especially if you rotate on the heel instead of the toe
Great video Tristan. I tried to incorporate some of the things that you talked about. The next round I was able to park a hole that I have never been able to get closer than 40 feet from.
With my camera I get a much better framerate when using slow motion. That's beneficial when making videos like this since I can pause at more specific points of my throw and still simply speed it up to make it run at normal speed. Think a better framerate would had helped you especially during the release of the throw. That being said, great video and great explanations!
Took me a lil while but I finally found the sweet spot and getting them over 500 now...Everyone has different body types so it helps to do what works best for you...I think that timing is key. Thx for sharing
Notice his left shoulder turns (opens) at the same pace his left hip does. He's not rotating his shoulders first and then the hip, nor is he opening his hips first with the upper body lagging. They are turning and opening at the same time. Also Notice when his left shoulder rotates forward, his right shoulder rotates in line/ time with it. Imagine a broom handle laying across his upper back/shoulders at the base of his neck and extending out both sides with his arms strapped to it. It would be impossible to turn one without turning the other if they were locked in this fashion. It looks as if they are rotating together. This is what I am currently working on to gain more distance. Having my hips open with the shoulder turn as if I'm slamming shut a door. In stead of pulling my arm through the shot (like I'm starting a lawn mower) instead I'm throwing my arm out. Actually the timed rotation is naturally bringing my arm into the power pocket (tuck) and the continual rotation is sorta throwing my hand out. The arm acts like a ball at the end of a chain and is essentially whipped out as the body rotates. This creates that snap. The hardest thing for me is timing it all correctly. There is a lot more to discuss like head placement, off axis torque, spine alignment. height of lead elbow, reach back position and so on.
curious to see if you have similar non-natural body movements as Eagle with the sidearm. Thanks for breaking it down. Would love to see if you could get slow motion footage to see more of your form in the pocket and your release out from it as well as when are you/how are you ejecting the disc from the power pocket. I feel like it's an assisted motion and also curious how the elbow is stopping to kick the forearm down. Seems like a really natural motion, but when you don't have the "natural" motion, it's an odd thing to capture.
Yeah for the sidearm tutorial I am going to find something to better play back the video bc it is in really slow motion but the viewer I was using wasn’t letting me actually go frame by frame...
Thank you! This was very informative video. One big thing for me was that you said about hips turning. My native langueage is not english so I havent really understood that before correctly. I thought before that I need actively try to turn my hips during the throw and I need to keep my hips 90 degrees from the target all the time but I think this helps me a lot when I know I can turn my hips way more than 90 degrees already before pulling the disc. One more question about the throw. Do you push with your back foot to get the weight shift and "spinning" motion after the X-step or do you just like move the weight over your front foot on it own? for example at 5.20 oonwards time on the video.
Great video, Tanner! This is proof that slow is smooth, smooth is far. Question - I am a first year player, and am having problems with consistently getting to 325-350'. On recordings of myself, I find that I am inconsistent with my plant foot angle. My footwork will be pretty slow and fairly smooth up until after the x-step, and then my stance will then finish very open, and essentially remove all of my hip drive, and it also causes me to rotate my hips and shoulders early, not letting the disc reach the power pocket to boot. What would you say would be the key element to keeping that plant foot perpendicular to the line? Thanks, and cheers from Minnesota!
great breakdown, this is what i need to figure out how to get a good step and form going. do you ever do just a single step or standstill throw? wondering how much of a distance change there is between each throw.
Yes I would recommend doing a one step throw. Start as if you were mid X step with your right foot in front of your left foot and then just take that one step into your throw
@@tristan_tanner13 Have you ever done a video about one step throws? I find them incredibly useful for improving my accuracy in woods courses, without sacrificing much distance compared to an x-step. Yet aside from @loopghost I don't hear advanced or pro disc golfers really talk about them.
A good video. It really goes to show how fast you are accelerating because the entire crux of the throw is between 2 frames. I would like to see more detail in the slow motion. @Tristan, could you make a video recorded at a higher frame rate?
Fantastic video. It´s great to hear you go over how you think about your own form. One thing: early in the video you talked about how you think about your form inregards to "not losing power". Can you explain how some players (or maybe yourself in the past) are losing power?
When an part of form is incorrect or miss timed that is a loss of power. Most people have the raw physical ability to get the distance they desire it’s just about getting every little part to work together and be smooth!
@@tristan_tanner13 I´d love to see a video on this. Taking in some examples of common issues people have where they lose power. I think you are right when you say that most people have the raw ability to get the distance, but I also think that there are so many of us doing the same things wrong without realizing that we are doing it and that it is costing us power, like collapsing the shoulder (rounding/hugging yourself).
Your walk up is going 45* to your target. I think I see something good and no stress on the body. You actually just walk to the front left corner of the Tee pad at 45* angle so compared to your target it looks like you turn your body but you have not. This a very good info. I feel like when I do x step I don't step across the Tee pad much and I have to do added twisting and then unwind all out of sync. With your method it looks like you are already coiled and just rip it, so you can stay more in sync. Am I correct on this? This give great bracing also. Thanks for the thorough break down.
Great stuff Tristan! Is the shipment to Finland available from your store? Also are you coming to Finland anytime soon? Thanks for your awesome content!
Reach back level, allow the disc to get into the power pocket, follow through level with the shot and don’t be looking for where the disc is right when it comes out of your hand!
As a new player, I appreciate you taking the time. I need all the help I can get, and this is a wealth of knowledge. A question, are you going to be making a second website for your photography or are you going to put it on the new one? Thanks
I really enjoyed this video. I have a hard time getting my hips to do the work and follow through. I also find that I fall forward like you stated and struggle with balance. Do you have any drills to help with these issues?
You talk about keeping your balance after the throw because so that that energy is not taken from the actual throw but how do you then explain someone like James Conrad who does a 360 after making his super far throws? Wouldn't that be a huge loss in energy?
James timing is super accurate, I think that’s why his style works so well for him. He is able to throw really far without a run up, but adding in so much momentum on top of great timing would be a solid way to throw far. Obviously most people wouldn’t have that level of timing to throw like that very well
He’s been playing for a very long time and has enough practice/muscle memory to make it work. Definitely not the way you’d teach a new player to throw but he’s a US champion so it obviously works for him
I would say that is a loss of power for most people however with how long James has been playing the game he has figured it out and made it work for him. I’m not trying to sleek for him but I think he would probably agree it isn’t the best way for people to learn.
I think all yoga helps I kind of bounce a round a bunch of different moves and styles. Anything with rotation with help a lot but the it’s more just the general stretches and flexibility improvement that counts!
I tend to begin my pull before my front heel hits, thereby losing the aid of a solid brace, I think? It seems to me that learning to do what your are showing here could go a long way to correcting that? I have decent power, 350-380 but I imagine I am leaving a lot of distance and consistency on the table. Does that sound accurate to you?
Super content. Thanks! These will help a lot. I'm still in defining my form, have been struggling for year or so already, hopefully some day I'm able to be a consistent player. Is there any change to buy these from L64 store?
It all takes time and practice! For now my signature series can only be purchased from the latitude store but hopefully that will change soon. My website will have more custom stamps and some other stuff more closely related to my brand!
I'd like to purchase one of your tour fundraiser discs but I want it signed. I don't see a comments section in your checkout. Is there a way I can do this?
@@tristan_tanner13 apparently it didn't work. I just got my discs today and they aren't signed but the note field is on my invoice saying to sign both of them.
oh man...i bought a bunch of used discs from TT at one of his clinics (highly rec and his used discs only $5!) ...been nice to ask for sigs. he has a nice one
Such a great and also "followable" break down dude. Everything you explain is CLEAR and visible with a physics reason behind it. I've thrown sooooo much farther working this weight shift into a slower run up - almost opposite from my old run up XD. Keep this stuff coming man!
It is truly amazing how you generate so much power from such a slow walkup. But this explains how. Good stuff!
This was great. I switched to this slower style after seeing you on LVC coverage and it’s helped a ton! I’m looking forward to seeing your forehand video too.
Yea, me too! I've gained around 40' on my tee shots since I started doing more of a walk up to explosive style.
Outstanding, thanks for breaking this down! About 8 months ago I asked you a question about what you think about on your slow walk up smash drives, I think it was a trilogy disc vid, and you said, "...the biggest things for me are getting my hips rotated back, getting the disc away from my body in the reach back and pulling the disc ahead of my shoulders at the hit point. But overall it’s key to be in an athletic stance and have your body work as one unit." This comment was worth more than gold. Working on this and discovering the wide rail (Bradley Walker, Spin and Throw disc golf) put my "crush" drives from less than 300' to well over 400' (which is huge for me!) It took half a year of breaking old habits and making new ones, but thanks to you and other pros who have been willing to answer questions, my game has jumped to the point where I'm parking drives to baskets that a lot of my disc golf buddies have trouble parking on their third shot.
Great insight! Thanks for sharing this!!!
That makes me super happy to hear! I’m glad that has worked so well for you!
This is definitely encouraging! Thanks for sharing. I’m usually 350-375, but my goal is to hit that 400 mark consistently. Field practice time!
Ironically I was watching one of Danny Lindahl's vids a few days ago and in the comments I mentioned being a 2x cancer survivor and that my body isn't what it used to be and asked for tips and people recommended I look you up and low and behold you just posted this :D
Perfect timing!
Great video... I throw similar to this method. I walk at about a 90 angle to the point of throwing. Then turn and pivot with controlled power into the throw. I am almost 60 years old, but I can throw over 380 ft. It is easier on the knees. Even Macbeth has a fairly slow run up.
I keep coming back to this video as I figure everything out. Just focusing on one or two of these tips at a time is slowly adding more and more distance to my drives.
“slow run up? am i a joke to you? “ - James Conrad
Can't wait to get out to the field and try out some of the things you are talking about
Thank you for this video. I got introduced to disc golf last fall, but didn't really start trying to improve until a couple months ago. Still, nearly all my throws the disc would fly nose-up, stall, and fall out of the sky. After watching this I realized I was basically sprinting to the front of the tee box and finally took the time to slow my run up to a walk and it was like being inside of a magic trick. I'm now throwing flat and actually able to start working on other parts of my form. "Nothing gets better by going faster" is quite literally stuck in my head now. Thank you so much!
Wow look how far the left foot is behind the right! What a brace! This all because you just naturally walk to 45* to target. Everything just gets into place without you having to do much. Cant wait to throw tonight.
Thanks for this video. Slow motion analysis is the only way I can really pick up what better players are doing. It really helps to see it in detail versus just watching someone rip it in three seconds .
Great video and guidance Tristian. Look forward to implementing some of what I’ve learned watching your video
This video helped me so much. The hip movement you showed made it clear I wasn’t loading mine all the way. I gained about 40 ft after practicing it. Thanks.
Amazing!
Now I understand why I pull most of my shots, and the more i pull them, the farther they go. I just need to shift to the more extreme angle you suggest here. Thanks Tristan
Definitely!
Better (more) shoulder-over-hips rotation. Good observation.
I've watched a LOT of form videos, but none have translated to results as directly immediately as this one.
What helped me was talking about how you get the hips turning, particularly the back foot, which is rarely mentioned.
Watching you, Simon and Paige Pierce videos I've dramatically improved my consistency, and my distance is completely off the charts. I could get 350' max for the most part, maybe stretching it to 385 when I got lucky. Now, I can throw my drivers pushing 500' and rarely pull them out because my 9 speed fairways are going over 400! By the way, buy a Falk, try this disc out. I can push a Falk on a frozen rope, dead straight 400 ft. You're completely right, SLOW your feet down. Once I figured this out and was able to get my hips and body loaded right, the distance came immediately! Try to focus on the timing of transferring your weight from your back foot to your front plant foot at the point of getting into the power pocket to maximize distance.
Thank you! It's nice to hear what your thought process is in the throw. I have been doing tons of field work and have seen gains, but often the "why" of the mechanics gets lost in other form videos. I moved my plant foot out a bit and widened my last step based on your breakdown and was getting an extra 25 feet today. I know I need to work on better weight transfer. I know why based on this. Again, thank you.
That’s great!
This is possibly the most helpful video I’ve seen for this. I have been almost exclusively sidearm for a while, because I don’t throw a backhand very well. I look forward to trying this out. Thanks.
After trying some of this advice out, I threw at a local course on a hole that I haven’t reached the pin before, and threw it past the basket and across the street!
I have been playing since 1999. This is how I used to throw, but other videos tell me I'm wrong. I am going back to the way I used to throw and feel good about it. It just feels so natural to me. Thank you for the validation! I love your step by step instruction. Best dang lesson I have had in a long time. Perfect!!
Great video, but you need to get yourself some slomo camera with more frames/sec 😉
Say that you need to rip a power shot off tee, in the grass/gravel etc, how do you handle the power going down that right foot rotating. I tried and boy did I take a fall in the wet grass 😂
The line of body mass on the tee is interesting. You're going pretty much fully diagonal with the toe of end left foot being in middle and the extending out left corner to really get that spring motion. I guess the farther left you step, the farther away you need to keep your disc from the body. Cause with that big left side step at the end, you're still pointing straight from target with that reach back arm, looks great!
So much to take in, gotta get out there and try! Hope to see you in Skellefteå some day. Keep those tech videos coming 👍🥇
Unfortunately it was just the viewer I was using bc this was filmed in plenty enough slow mo(120fps). It take some getting sided to for sure! I definitely want to get to Sweden at some point!
Awesome video, Tristan! I have actually tried to copy your style in general, focusing on that hip/shoulder rotation and weight shift. As you say, it takes a bit of getting used to, but I can already notice a big difference in decreased fatigue, less wear and tear on joints, and while I don't have much added distance yet, my accuracy and precision is better due to slowing down in the 'walk-up' (can hardly call it a run-up anymore). :) Keep up the great work! I'm excited to check out your website too. Congratulations!
Awesome! I’m glad you are seeing good results!
13:55 Takes thumb off disc. Josh Anthon does something similar. I do the same thing in ball golf at the very top of the backswing with the driver but didn't know I was right away.
Your video just let me know the two problems I have with my backhand. Not getting my hips fully loaded and turning my head too soon. Thank youy
Great! I’m glad I could help!
Awesome video. ! You should do this again but with more frames per second !!!!
I am working on finding a viewer that will let me use all the frames I recorded bc I filmed in 120fps
Great stuff! Really looking forward to the sidearm video.
Lot of new stuff in this video I haven’t seen before! One thing I’d disagree with is when you said to not look at your throw until it is around 100 feet away from you (for people who turn their head forward early). I believe that because people are driving at such different speeds, the suggestion should be based on the shoulders coming through to push the head forward naturally, not the distance your disc has traveled.
Yeah definitely it was more just a general concept!
In mcbeth and sexton tutorial they say not to curl your wrist. They say you will get all snap you need from straight wrist. Paul mentioned curled wrist means you can't pull the disc as close to ur body and get into power pocket as well. Guess both ways work.
Yep I have read differing recommendations also. I am a newbie and find if I do curl it just slightly, it really does seem to come out with noticeably more spin.
This is a good point. I think the majority of players are held back from a more open wrist position or at least fall back to a open wrist. I am included in that group and that just what I have found works for me!
I saw you at centennial the other day. Pretty sure you saw me throw my very first shot straight into the creek and hop in after it. I definitely need this video. lol
Don’t worry I think we have all dumped many discs into that creek
This is the best driving tutorial. You explain things so concisely
I switched to a slow x step after seeing you play in a tourney and its helped me a lot with the timing! this video was super informative
Great!
I’ve had a few meniscus surgeries on my right knee (plant leg) and it’s sooo hard for me to brace hard and keep my foot turned 90 degrees. It opens naturally because it so badly doesn’t want the knee to feel any pressure. Sucks but I’m trying !! Got my forehand game on point lol
Gotta try to slow down my x-step while I throw distance drivers. I noticed that I gained distance and accuracy to my sidearm game by slowing my run-up into a slow walk. My midrange and putter throws are super comfortable and they're slow and smooth but my distance shots don't feel good. Feels like that loss of power you're talking about. Great video and analysis!
Sounds good!
wow i was just working on a very similar video before i got injured. Your channel is an inspiration bro. kept me entertained all through the off season and this pandemic. thanks!
That’s great! Thank you for viewing!
Thanks for the video, lots of good stuff... how did you learn how to throw so well?
I had watched this video last year and actually noticed something rewatching it. Most videos I've watched once the disc gets past a pro's chest the front foot will start to open at about the same time. But in your throw it's delayed. The disc is actually out of your hand before your front foot opens. I feel like that would put torque on your knee because your hips are rotating but your knee is locked in place. Not that I'm an expert by any means lol just a thought.
The form videos I’ve watched have said to not rotate until the disc is released because you want the torque transferred to your upper body, and rotation of the foot releases the torque. As long as you’re transferring from the knee to the upper body, releasing and then rotating properly it shouldn’t stress the knee much, especially if you rotate on the heel instead of the toe
Great video Tristan. I tried to incorporate some of the things that you talked about. The next round I was able to park a hole that I have never been able to get closer than 40 feet from.
Great!
That looks like Loomiller Park in Longmont, CO.
With my camera I get a much better framerate when using slow motion. That's beneficial when making videos like this since I can pause at more specific points of my throw and still simply speed it up to make it run at normal speed. Think a better framerate would had helped you especially during the release of the throw.
That being said, great video and great explanations!
I shot this video at 120 FPS it was the media player I was using to play back the video that was not allowing me to use all of those frames...
Took me a lil while but I finally found the sweet spot and getting them over 500 now...Everyone has different body types so it helps to do what works best for you...I think that timing is key. Thx for sharing
Wow, timing is key? Captain obvious saves the day once again.
@@samhowl1152 Dude, I think it was quite fair comment, since Tanner didn't really cover that topic in his video.
Notice his left shoulder turns (opens) at the same pace his left hip does. He's not rotating his shoulders first and then the hip, nor is he opening his hips first with the upper body lagging. They are turning and opening at the same time. Also Notice when his left shoulder rotates forward, his right shoulder rotates in line/ time with it. Imagine a broom handle laying across his upper back/shoulders at the base of his neck and extending out both sides with his arms strapped to it. It would be impossible to turn one without turning the other if they were locked in this fashion. It looks as if they are rotating together. This is what I am currently working on to gain more distance. Having my hips open with the shoulder turn as if I'm slamming shut a door. In stead of pulling my arm through the shot (like I'm starting a lawn mower) instead I'm throwing my arm out. Actually the timed rotation is naturally bringing my arm into the power pocket (tuck) and the continual rotation is sorta throwing my hand out. The arm acts like a ball at the end of a chain and is essentially whipped out as the body rotates. This creates that snap. The hardest thing for me is timing it all correctly. There is a lot more to discuss like head placement, off axis torque, spine alignment. height of lead elbow, reach back position and so on.
curious to see if you have similar non-natural body movements as Eagle with the sidearm. Thanks for breaking it down. Would love to see if you could get slow motion footage to see more of your form in the pocket and your release out from it as well as when are you/how are you ejecting the disc from the power pocket. I feel like it's an assisted motion and also curious how the elbow is stopping to kick the forearm down. Seems like a really natural motion, but when you don't have the "natural" motion, it's an odd thing to capture.
Yeah for the sidearm tutorial I am going to find something to better play back the video bc it is in really slow motion but the viewer I was using wasn’t letting me actually go frame by frame...
Thank you! This was very informative video. One big thing for me was that you said about hips turning. My native langueage is not english so I havent really understood that before correctly. I thought before that I need actively try to turn my hips during the throw and I need to keep my hips 90 degrees from the target all the time but I think this helps me a lot when I know I can turn my hips way more than 90 degrees already before pulling the disc.
One more question about the throw. Do you push with your back foot to get the weight shift and "spinning" motion after the X-step or do you just like move the weight over your front foot on it own? for example at 5.20 oonwards time on the video.
I push very hard off the back foot!
Great video, Tanner! This is proof that slow is smooth, smooth is far. Question - I am a first year player, and am having problems with consistently getting to 325-350'. On recordings of myself, I find that I am inconsistent with my plant foot angle. My footwork will be pretty slow and fairly smooth up until after the x-step, and then my stance will then finish very open, and essentially remove all of my hip drive, and it also causes me to rotate my hips and shoulders early, not letting the disc reach the power pocket to boot. What would you say would be the key element to keeping that plant foot perpendicular to the line? Thanks, and cheers from Minnesota!
Try to plant with it turned pretty far back and that with effectively bring you into the area you should be!
great breakdown, this is what i need to figure out how to get a good step and form going. do you ever do just a single step or standstill throw? wondering how much of a distance change there is between each throw.
Yes I would recommend doing a one step throw. Start as if you were mid X step with your right foot in front of your left foot and then just take that one step into your throw
@@tristan_tanner13 Have you ever done a video about one step throws? I find them incredibly useful for improving my accuracy in woods courses, without sacrificing much distance compared to an x-step. Yet aside from @loopghost I don't hear advanced or pro disc golfers really talk about them.
A good video. It really goes to show how fast you are accelerating because the entire crux of the throw is between 2 frames. I would like to see more detail in the slow motion. @Tristan, could you make a video recorded at a higher frame rate?
Great Video! Very helpful, thanks a lot!
Fantastic video. It´s great to hear you go over how you think about your own form. One thing: early in the video you talked about how you think about your form inregards to "not losing power". Can you explain how some players (or maybe yourself in the past) are losing power?
When an part of form is incorrect or miss timed that is a loss of power. Most people have the raw physical ability to get the distance they desire it’s just about getting every little part to work together and be smooth!
@@tristan_tanner13 I´d love to see a video on this. Taking in some examples of common issues people have where they lose power. I think you are right when you say that most people have the raw ability to get the distance, but I also think that there are so many of us doing the same things wrong without realizing that we are doing it and that it is costing us power, like collapsing the shoulder (rounding/hugging yourself).
Your walk up is going 45* to your target. I think I see something good and no stress on the body. You actually just walk to the front left corner of the Tee pad at 45* angle so compared to your target it looks like you turn your body but you have not. This a very good info. I feel like when I do x step I don't step across the Tee pad much and I have to do added twisting and then unwind all out of sync. With your method it looks like you are already coiled and just rip it, so you can stay more in sync. Am I correct on this? This give great bracing also.
Thanks for the thorough break down.
Going from aligning yourself at the target then going to loading your hips in the xstep is mind opening
Are you powering your hip turn by pushing off with your left leg? I have never understood how to get hips into the shot.
Yes along with the rotation of the plant foot! I would say most important is getting them turned back bcc they will naturally want to rotate!
Great stuff Tristan! Is the shipment to Finland available from your store? Also are you coming to Finland anytime soon? Thanks for your awesome content!
Yes shipment to Finland is available!
Thank you so much for this Tristan
And he’s been playing for three years...
Got any tips for actively keeping the nose down?
Reach back level, allow the disc to get into the power pocket, follow through level with the shot and don’t be looking for where the disc is right when it comes out of your hand!
As a new player, I appreciate you taking the time. I need all the help I can get, and this is a wealth of knowledge. A question, are you going to be making a second website for your photography or are you going to put it on the new one? Thanks
I honestly don’t know I am mostly just doing it for fun right now but I’m sure I will eventually add a page for photography!
Tristan Tanner Disc Golf Cool, thanks. Look forward to seeing it.
I really enjoyed this video. I have a hard time getting my hips to do the work and follow through. I also find that I fall forward like you stated and struggle with balance. Do you have any drills to help with these issues?
Very interesting. Thank you
You talk about keeping your balance after the throw because so that that energy is not taken from the actual throw but how do you then explain someone like James Conrad who does a 360 after making his super far throws? Wouldn't that be a huge loss in energy?
James timing is super accurate, I think that’s why his style works so well for him. He is able to throw really far without a run up, but adding in so much momentum on top of great timing would be a solid way to throw far. Obviously most people wouldn’t have that level of timing to throw like that very well
If you're interested, here's a clinic with James Conrad where he discusses his form and how it works.
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He’s been playing for a very long time and has enough practice/muscle memory to make it work. Definitely not the way you’d teach a new player to throw but he’s a US champion so it obviously works for him
I would say that is a loss of power for most people however with how long James has been playing the game he has figured it out and made it work for him. I’m not trying to sleek for him but I think he would probably agree it isn’t the best way for people to learn.
What do you recommend for yoga moves to help with flexibility and strength in regards to disc golf throwing?
I think all yoga helps I kind of bounce a round a bunch of different moves and styles. Anything with rotation with help a lot but the it’s more just the general stretches and flexibility improvement that counts!
Thanks for all this info man!
Great tips Tristan. Thanks.
Thanks you for this!!!!!
I tend to begin my pull before my front heel hits, thereby losing the aid of a solid brace, I think? It seems to me that learning to do what your are showing here could go a long way to correcting that? I have decent power, 350-380 but I imagine I am leaving a lot of distance and consistency on the table. Does that sound accurate to you?
Every time i see tristen i cant help but to think he looks and sounds like sam from corridor digital
Super content. Thanks! These will help a lot. I'm still in defining my form, have been struggling for year or so already, hopefully some day I'm able to be a consistent player. Is there any change to buy these from L64 store?
It all takes time and practice! For now my signature series can only be purchased from the latitude store but hopefully that will change soon. My website will have more custom stamps and some other stuff more closely related to my brand!
Really enjoyed this one, Tristan. Do you give online lessons?
I am working on a way to make this happen!
great stuff!
Wow we have a similar tempo
Great content!
I do a slow walk up too. I loved when you showed up on the scene!
Awesome!
Subbed. Greetings from Finland
No slow motion is slow enough to capture how quick that throw is
Unfortunately it was the viewer I was using which didn’t let me show all of the frames...
Good tutorial!
Do you release to the left of your target for a straight line because you're releasing from your elbow?
Nope the disc stays on the same line to the target from peak reachback too release
@@tristan_tanner13 thankyou for making this video!
its almost like "slow is smooth and smooth is far"
Intresting🤔
@@tristan_tanner13 that's my Danny lindahl shout out for the day.
I'd like to purchase one of your tour fundraiser discs but I want it signed. I don't see a comments section in your checkout. Is there a way I can do this?
Oh weird let me check it out
It is fixed now! Thank you!
@@tristan_tanner13 Thank you. I went ahead and ordered a couple that I want signed. Good luck with the rest of the tour season.
@@tristan_tanner13 apparently it didn't work. I just got my discs today and they aren't signed but the note field is on my invoice saying to sign both of them.
very nice video! could you do a sidearm?
Yes I will be in a couple weeks!
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Unless your name is james conrad lol
Sorry, camera wasn’t near good enough for this to be helpful. I quit early. Thanks for the thought though
do we get the disc signed
Yes!
oh man...i bought a bunch of used discs from TT at one of his clinics (highly rec and his used discs only $5!) ...been nice to ask for sigs. he has a nice one
Goldline Ballista Pro is the farthest flier on the market!
Trueeee
no need to apologize to us lefties, we're used to it...
I say "Lefties Hyzer Right!"
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