@@stephaniedammert6118 it’s in this movie, very well explained in my eyes. Make sure the facilitator can’t hear the question or see the answer. Then it has to be the client responding.
@@mortenle you're absolutely right I guess. And I would never take hope away from parents, unless it's false hope. All the controlled study's are pointing out that FC is giving false hope. False hope can't help.
Think back to the beginnings of science or medicine. They also made many mistakes and believed in scary things. That even still happens today, it's just that psychology is a newer science that we barely understand, so speculation and theory are common ways of starting to learn more so that fewer mistakes are made. It's just part of learning. We have learned so much about testing and people's biases from this. Fascinating and heart breaking.
Exactly. And as they pointed out, there is no freakin' way you can type with one finger without looking at the keyboard. This is so obvious, FC should have been questioned from the get go.
The money that was wasted on this, my God! A personal assistant for each child. One class has a teacher and 10 other adults pretending to "help" each child. Can you believe there are people still dying on this hill in 2024!
It is so sad, but not surprising given the Bizarro world we live in, where people are spouting all kinds of nonsense with a straight face (like a man with a surgically created "V-trough" is a woman.)
I finished watching it not too long ago and I was horrified. I'd heard of FC previously and I knew it was largely discredited, but I'd never heard of the Stubblefield case. I think it's obvious that she thought she could use that poor man and their "relationship" for publicity and clout within her field of study.
@@TarquiniusSuperbus I don't even think professional acclaim was her primary motive. It's clear she has been obsessed with disabled people since childhood, given that both of her parents were educators who focused on special ed. She asked her mother for crutches as a kid, and would go around blindfolded all day to pretend she was blind. I think she quite honestly was turned on at the thought of getting it on with a severely disabled man -- and remember she was attracted to black men to boot (hubby was black.) After watching the documentary, I came away believing that Anna, in her delusional mind, thinks Derrick is an intelligent man saying all of those intellectual things, and believes he fell in love with her and wanted to have sex with her. Knowing FC is bogus, we know that ain't so. As they said toward the end of that documentary, Anna was talking to herself.
I was absolutely disgusted and horrified by that case. She is no better than a baby rapist (the man had the intellectual capacity of less than a 2 year old, not to mention physically was unable to fight back). I work with people with disabilities (and have very mild disabilities myself), including people with intellectual disabilities who are in a similar situation to him, and I cannot imagine anyone abusing their power in such a disgusting way, yet it happens all of the time (I've heard of teenagers and women with severe disabilities that were only revealed to be raped once they got pregnant. I also watched a testimonial of a case of a man with spina bifida who was horribly raped and molested by his OT from when he was 5 until he was 10). We get Mandated Reporter training for these exact reasons, yet this abuse continues to happen everywhere (not just sexual but physical/emotional too) and unfortunately I don't think we'll ever be able to stop it fully. It's so heartbreaking and disgusting to me that people like Stubblefield get a slap on the wrist (she didn't even have to register as a sex offender!) and there are even people defending awful predators like her.
@@matthewcrome I think in part it is because women in general get a slap on the wrist --- comparatively speaking -- when they are the ones involved in sex scandals with students and others under their care. Men get much harsher punishment than women do. This case was indeed absolutely outrageous and revolting.
She seen a young man that had retard stamina and strength, and could not tell anyone what was happening to him. The perfect sex slave. The only upside to that whole story is at least the poor guy won't die a virgin. That woman should still be locked up somewhere though, what a total fruitcake.
Here from Tell Them You Love Me (2023, Netflix). Thanks for uploading!
Same.
Same
The test to prove that the child really is the one that speaks is so easy to do. But people want to believe rather then to know…
What is it
@@stephaniedammert6118 it’s in this movie, very well explained in my eyes. Make sure the facilitator can’t hear the question or see the answer. Then it has to be the client responding.
Parents are especially desperate for answers and hope for their kids.
@@mortenle you're absolutely right I guess. And I would never take hope away from parents, unless it's false hope.
All the controlled study's are pointing out that FC is giving false hope. False hope can't help.
Think back to the beginnings of science or medicine. They also made many mistakes and believed in scary things. That even still happens today, it's just that psychology is a newer science that we barely understand, so speculation and theory are common ways of starting to learn more so that fewer mistakes are made. It's just part of learning. We have learned so much about testing and people's biases from this. Fascinating and heart breaking.
I’m skeptical of this. If you watch closely the child is not even looking at what they’re pointing at. It’s the facilitator doing it.
Exactly. And as they pointed out, there is no freakin' way you can type with one finger without looking at the keyboard. This is so obvious, FC should have been questioned from the get go.
Plus how do the kids suddenly know how to read, write, punctuate, do algebra, etc?
As a former special education teacher, this is very wishful thinking especially when dealing with someone with a severe/profound disability.
The money that was wasted on this, my God! A personal assistant for each child. One class has a teacher and 10 other adults pretending to "help" each child. Can you believe there are people still dying on this hill in 2024!
It is so sad, but not surprising given the Bizarro world we live in, where people are spouting all kinds of nonsense with a straight face (like a man with a surgically created "V-trough" is a woman.)
So strange that they all can suddenly read and write so well. When many neurotypical people struggle with that too
Y'all should watch the documentary on the woman who raped a disabled man. Claimed he loved her.
I finished watching it not too long ago and I was horrified. I'd heard of FC previously and I knew it was largely discredited, but I'd never heard of the Stubblefield case. I think it's obvious that she thought she could use that poor man and their "relationship" for publicity and clout within her field of study.
@@TarquiniusSuperbus I don't even think professional acclaim was her primary motive. It's clear she has been obsessed with disabled people since childhood, given that both of her parents were educators who focused on special ed. She asked her mother for crutches as a kid, and would go around blindfolded all day to pretend she was blind. I think she quite honestly was turned on at the thought of getting it on with a severely disabled man -- and remember she was attracted to black men to boot (hubby was black.) After watching the documentary, I came away believing that Anna, in her delusional mind, thinks Derrick is an intelligent man saying all of those intellectual things, and believes he fell in love with her and wanted to have sex with her. Knowing FC is bogus, we know that ain't so. As they said toward the end of that documentary, Anna was talking to herself.
I was absolutely disgusted and horrified by that case. She is no better than a baby rapist (the man had the intellectual capacity of less than a 2 year old, not to mention physically was unable to fight back). I work with people with disabilities (and have very mild disabilities myself), including people with intellectual disabilities who are in a similar situation to him, and I cannot imagine anyone abusing their power in such a disgusting way, yet it happens all of the time (I've heard of teenagers and women with severe disabilities that were only revealed to be raped once they got pregnant. I also watched a testimonial of a case of a man with spina bifida who was horribly raped and molested by his OT from when he was 5 until he was 10). We get Mandated Reporter training for these exact reasons, yet this abuse continues to happen everywhere (not just sexual but physical/emotional too) and unfortunately I don't think we'll ever be able to stop it fully. It's so heartbreaking and disgusting to me that people like Stubblefield get a slap on the wrist (she didn't even have to register as a sex offender!) and there are even people defending awful predators like her.
@@matthewcrome I think in part it is because women in general get a slap on the wrist --- comparatively speaking -- when they are the ones involved in sex scandals with students and others under their care. Men get much harsher punishment than women do. This case was indeed absolutely outrageous and revolting.
She seen a young man that had retard stamina and strength, and could not tell anyone what was happening to him. The perfect sex slave. The only upside to that whole story is at least the poor guy won't die a virgin. That woman should still be locked up somewhere though, what a total fruitcake.
So basically they were dragging around disabled people and using them like ventriloquist dummies. All subconsciously. Oof