I’d love a “how to” on tuning each brand of bow without moving the rest. Whether that is the shims on a Hoyt, or the tuning systems on bowtech and elite.
@@EntryLvloutdoors have you seen a good one out there on Hoyt? Even the Mathews top hat videos aren’t great. I get elite and bow techs are easy to tune, just thought it would be great content to show all of them side by side.
Had the bow set up at a pro shop. It performed just fine ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxQEKUoxLWwayEDZR0NKB-5limn4MBU-2L . And I would say this is a good starting now that I could pass down to my son when he is older.But the package was missing the release and a nock was missing from one arrow.Dealing with customer support was terrible. They suggested I buy a new release rather than correct their own quality control issue because it’s to expensive for the. to ship it out from China.Update: manufacturer got back to me and resolved the issue. I retract the above statement.
Not in the market for a new bow, but I still enjoy your videos. Short, to the point, with all the info needed to assist in making a decision on what bows a person should take a closer look at. MFJJ keep up the good work. Thank you.
Ordered this bow. Going to shoot 31” draw on performance. Arrow going to weight about 575 grains. Not sure how to estimate arrow speed using the numbers provided in this video. I know it’s not 100% accurate. Going to decide if I need to go lighter or not. Would like to shoot 280fps or more
I don’t necessarily need an 80lb bow but I’m going to keep shooting one as long as I’m able to. Love the specs of this bow, right down my alley as a western hunter at 29” draw.
Can you give a run down on the bowtech comfort how to change it? There no videos on how to change that! My local bow shop to busy for walk in so learning this stuff myself
The SX80 has aluminum limb pockets, the SS34 doesn't Why not put in regular nocks to bring the arrow weight down closer to 400? I bet switching out the lighted nocks would bring them down to 405.
Bowtech 80lb bows use aluminum limb pockets, so that's probably why they rename them. Limbs are not interchangeable between the models, as I found this out with my Revolt X and the Revolt X80. This bow set at 80lbs on comfort would definitely be a great hunting option.
Can you test the bows at a shorter draw link to?So we can see how they test out.Maybe at 27 and a 1/2 inch.Drawal cycle with a three hundred and fifty green arrow and a five hundred and fifty green arrow. thank you
Opinion please!! I esky like the SS34 and the CP30. I'm primarily a tree stand hunter that shoots 3D in the summer to stay in shape. I'm 5'10" 28.5 draw. Which bow would you recommend??
Hey idk if you carry it but if u do whats the chance u can do a review on that bear the hunting the public helped come up with? Looking at getting my 13 year old nephew a decent starter bow to grow into
Can you do a review on gold tip black label quantum? Interested in them but no good reviews out. Like the gpi and diameter. Looking at 28.75” with 75 gr hit. Gonna be right at 15% with a 300 spine
Love my ss34. Wasn't sure if I wanted to pull 80 lbs and the sx80 was only available as special order from my bow shop... so I didn't order the sx80. For people that pull 80 lbs, this bow on comfort would be amazing. I was shocked at how little reflex it has.
Great video, love Bowtech. I have a curious question for you though... There were some variations on the speed I guess from arrow to arrow. Arrows always seem to get the fault for accuracy and misses outside the shooter, but when do bows get the blame??? If say there was a difference in speed of 314 to say 320, wouldn't that make a bigger difference down range at like 100 yards.... I don't know if this makes sense but I wonder if bows aren't consistent from shot to shot as we may think... anyways thanks for all your videos and reviews.
Would probably need to shoot the same arrow 3 times instead of different ones to figure that out. I think there can be variation based on where it passes through the chrono as well so probably need a shooting machine. Once you take out those variables I doubt there would be much difference but who knows
How about a video comparing a target bow vs hunting bow for 3D and TAC? You could do the Reckoning 36 vs SS34. I was debating this and went with SS34 mainly so I could have a second hunting bow if needed but also because no one carries target bows near me.
I went for the Reckoning - wrt adjustability it's just another level (time lock, and he grip adjustment is mind blowing - gone are the times I had to cash out extra money to find a grip for the Matthew that would suit me). Adjustability for a perfect fit, 36 vs 34 ATA, longer brace height: all ends up in tighter groups respectively more clinical shooting. Perfect for 3D and TAC (likely the best bow you can buy at the moment for this kind of comp) and definitely good enough for a "second" hunting bow.
I currently shoot a revolt x. How would you compare that to the ss34? I realize my revolt x has a tad more speed, but in your opinion is the ss34 that much smoother of a draw cycle? Haven’t been able to get my hands on one yet, but looking to possibly upgrade.
Oh man... I hope they give you a SX80 to give away. I can feel my number is coming up in the universe for a win! lol... I need a win as I just took a couple L's. Someone broke into my truck and stole my boy's and my bow, along with all our archery gear! Let's go, no Wammies!
Could you add a practical hunting weight for each bow. So add the weight of the heaviest accessories that someone would reasonably put on that bow and the lightest. Then say practical hunting weight is between this on the low end and that on the high end
I would do a how to on measuring draw length for a bow (not the archer). Not much out there and I’ve read conflicting information. I would like for you to do more testing with different arrow configurations/vane configurations. Also the bow builds that you were planning on doing last year would be incredible.
Any idea what the SS34 shoots that 420 grain arrow at? Just trying to compare to see how big of a jump you get going to 80 lbs. The SS34 shot a 350 grain arrow 316/327 in your other video.
Subtract around 20 FPS from the speeds given in his SS34 video for a 420 grain arrow. 420 gr. Minus 350 gr. Equals 70 gr. 70 gr. Divided by 5 equals 14. 14 times 1.5 equals 21. This will be approximately 21 FPS slower than the speed of a 350 gr. Arrow at 70 lbs and 30” DL.
I can’t imagine shooting 20+ arrows a day at 80 lbs. I seen prime released some arrows and components, is there a chance you’ll be doing a video on those?
You get used to it. I only have 1 bow, Ventum 33 @ 84lbs and shoot in a league with my oldest. Heck I shoot it all year including TAC & local 3D's. My thoughts are... I can do it now so why not? In 10-20 yrs I might not be able to. Only live once
speed might be the same, but the arrow weight (and so the momentum for the same speed) is different. If you have already a long DL the benefit compared to a 70 lbs bow is likely minimal, however, for hunters with a short DL it may be beneficial.
First: it depends from where you are coming from: if your tac arrow was before 650 grain, and you dropped it to 600 grains than the gain in speed is not as much as it would be if changing the weight from 400 grain to 350 grain. Second: 8 fps per 20 grain is very very optimistic. I'm not a RF fan boy, but he has some interesting tables on his channel that gives you a better idea what speed gains (at launch) you can expect when changing arrow weights: e.g. 13 fps when dropping the weight from 436 grain to 388 grain - 48 grain for a 13 fps increase, makes 5.4 fps for 20 grains. Third: all figures to be taken with a grain of salt as the fletching (# of vanes, size, off-set, spine) plays a big role too.
Really? I hunt big boars here in Australia and gave up shooting 70lbs as I lost some great big old boars as I prefer using 3 blade cut on contact heads to open the pads for a blood trail and better chance of recovery. The arrows were not punching through the hard mud encrusted gristled fighting pads on the shoulders of the big old boars.
So they are the closest to published speed this year and the easiest to tune so yeah I think they made a good bow and publish honest info. I like it when manufacturers are honest and their bows are easy to tune
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I’d love a “how to” on tuning each brand of bow without moving the rest. Whether that is the shims on a Hoyt, or the tuning systems on bowtech and elite.
That's actually a cool video idea!
Agreed!
And just thinking bout that would by why elite or bowtech is my bow of choice for now
There's videos out there. Elites and bowtechs are pretty self explanatory, kinda the whole point
@@EntryLvloutdoors have you seen a good one out there on Hoyt? Even the Mathews top hat videos aren’t great. I get elite and bow techs are easy to tune, just thought it would be great content to show all of them side by side.
Had the bow set up at a pro shop. It performed just fine ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxQEKUoxLWwayEDZR0NKB-5limn4MBU-2L . And I would say this is a good starting now that I could pass down to my son when he is older.But the package was missing the release and a nock was missing from one arrow.Dealing with customer support was terrible. They suggested I buy a new release rather than correct their own quality control issue because it’s to expensive for the. to ship it out from China.Update: manufacturer got back to me and resolved the issue. I retract the above statement.
Good reviews MFJJ. I appreciate one of you staff answering my questions when I called today.
Gotta say, you sir are my new favorite to watch for
Archery needs. Thanks.
Just ordered mine today. SS34 pulled so smooth I couldn't help but get the SX80!
Finally haha, still wanting for my sx80 to rock up here in Aus, 3 months so far, that was a decent jump from comfort to performance 14fps
Not in the market for a new bow, but I still enjoy your videos. Short, to the point, with all the info needed to assist in making a decision on what bows a person should take a closer look at. MFJJ keep up the good work. Thank you.
Have the ss34 . Love it . Saddle hunter, no problem. Keep up the great work
Mfjj because archers comes in all draw lengths have you considered doing the similar speed test and include a shorter draw length to compare?
Always shot a Mathews. This is the year I try all the bows and pick the one I like based on feel. This will be on the list.
Ordered this bow. Going to shoot 31” draw on performance. Arrow going to weight about 575 grains. Not sure how to estimate arrow speed using the numbers provided in this video. I know it’s not 100% accurate. Going to decide if I need to go lighter or not. Would like to shoot 280fps or more
I would really appreciate a video where you break down what you look for in a bow for different usages.
Yes sir I’ll be purchasing I’ve been waiting for this review
Awesome video. thank you for all your videos and reviews. Im a huge bowtech fan.
Man wow I was pretty excited about the sx80 now I’m really excited can’t wait to actually get one
Hey Josh, I would like to see a video about helical, string twist, and accuracy.. just heard you mention video idea and thought I would mention it
I don’t necessarily need an 80lb bow but I’m going to keep shooting one as long as I’m able to. Love the specs of this bow, right down my alley as a western hunter at 29” draw.
Can you give a run down on the bowtech comfort how to change it? There no videos on how to change that! My local bow shop to busy for walk in so learning this stuff myself
Thanks for the review, nice scapula destroyer!!!
Another great review for those like myself who can not easily get their hands on the new bows!
also, the limb pockets are the aluminum reckoning pockets where as ss34 is carbon
Really dig your gig!!
Would be great to see those target bow reviews!
Video idea! Please walk us through tuning a bowtech with the deadlock system. Do you move one cam at a time? Together? Can you show us please?
....just look for Bowtech's "Deadlock Instructional Video" here on UA-cam (or on their website) - entails all you need to know.....
The SX80 has aluminum limb pockets, the SS34 doesn't
Why not put in regular nocks to bring the arrow weight down closer to 400? I bet switching out the lighted nocks would bring them down to 405.
I know it’s old stuff…. But how to tune an old Matthew’s solo cam would be great
Build the Frankenstein bow!
Will you use the omen?
What would be the best counterpart for the opposite of run and gun? A bow you're equally impressed with but shorter...
This is the one I have been waiting for. How does it feel letting it down on comfort setting
Bowtech 80lb bows use aluminum limb pockets, so that's probably why they rename them. Limbs are not interchangeable between the models, as I found this out with my Revolt X and the Revolt X80. This bow set at 80lbs on comfort would definitely be a great hunting option.
Can you test the bows at a shorter draw link to?So we can see how they test out.Maybe at 27 and a 1/2 inch.Drawal cycle with a three hundred and fifty green arrow and a five hundred and fifty green arrow. thank you
Opinion please!! I esky like the SS34 and the CP30. I'm primarily a tree stand hunter that shoots 3D in the summer to stay in shape. I'm 5'10" 28.5 draw. Which bow would you recommend??
Love these reviews and how you recommend which bow for which application for the hunter. Why can you ship target bows and not hunting bows????
Hey idk if you carry it but if u do whats the chance u can do a review on that bear the hunting the public helped come up with? Looking at getting my 13 year old nephew a decent starter bow to grow into
XS should be SX 80 on your title, I received mine, too. It does have metal pockets while the SS34 does not....
Impressive bow. I was really impressed with the SS34 when I did my review if it.
Can you do a review on gold tip black label quantum? Interested in them but no good reviews out. Like the gpi and diameter. Looking at 28.75” with 75 gr hit. Gonna be right at 15% with a 300 spine
I am surprised about 80# not being faster than the other Bowtechs.
Love my ss34. Wasn't sure if I wanted to pull 80 lbs and the sx80 was only available as special order from my bow shop... so I didn't order the sx80. For people that pull 80 lbs, this bow on comfort would be amazing. I was shocked at how little reflex it has.
I got an ss34 and for me it’s next to being too easy to pull back @70lb that I wish I got the sx80
Which bow do you think would be the better 3D/crossover hunting bow. The SS34/SX80 or the Reckoning 35?
I wish they would put the aluminum limb pockets on the ss34
Great video, love Bowtech. I have a curious question for you though... There were some variations on the speed I guess from arrow to arrow. Arrows always seem to get the fault for accuracy and misses outside the shooter, but when do bows get the blame??? If say there was a difference in speed of 314 to say 320, wouldn't that make a bigger difference down range at like 100 yards.... I don't know if this makes sense but I wonder if bows aren't consistent from shot to shot as we may think... anyways thanks for all your videos and reviews.
Would probably need to shoot the same arrow 3 times instead of different ones to figure that out. I think there can be variation based on where it passes through the chrono as well so probably need a shooting machine. Once you take out those variables I doubt there would be much difference but who knows
Thank you for sharing this information
How much would the speed change on that bow for someone with a 26” draw length at 75 pounds
How about a video comparing a target bow vs hunting bow for 3D and TAC? You could do the Reckoning 36 vs SS34. I was debating this and went with SS34 mainly so I could have a second hunting bow if needed but also because no one carries target bows near me.
I went for the Reckoning - wrt adjustability it's just another level (time lock, and he grip adjustment is mind blowing - gone are the times I had to cash out extra money to find a grip for the Matthew that would suit me). Adjustability for a perfect fit, 36 vs 34 ATA, longer brace height: all ends up in tighter groups respectively more clinical shooting. Perfect for 3D and TAC (likely the best bow you can buy at the moment for this kind of comp) and definitely good enough for a "second" hunting bow.
Great review ! Awesome Bow !!!
I currently shoot a revolt x. How would you compare that to the ss34? I realize my revolt x has a tad more speed, but in your opinion is the ss34 that much smoother of a draw cycle? Haven’t been able to get my hands on one yet, but looking to possibly upgrade.
I shoot revolt x . I’m only 57yr old so my ego says bump from 435 to 460 grains and gorilla up to 80 lb … x80 or sx 80 . Which would you choose?
I'm a 31.5 inch draw. How much speed could I expect to gain with the extra 1.5 of draw?
It looks like Bowtech got it right with that bow. No plastic limb pockets either lol.
Oh man... I hope they give you a SX80 to give away. I can feel my number is coming up in the universe for a win! lol... I need a win as I just took a couple L's. Someone broke into my truck and stole my boy's and my bow, along with all our archery gear! Let's go, no Wammies!
Could you add a practical hunting weight for each bow. So add the weight of the heaviest accessories that someone would reasonably put on that bow and the lightest. Then say practical hunting weight is between this on the low end and that on the high end
Could you do a video on the torch bow sight
what does the measurement of the reflex prove? I've never seen someone consistently measure this like you do. I'm generally curious.
Watch my video on what makes a bow accurate
@@podiumarcher3447 Just watched it. Very good info and makes sense about the reflex. Something I hadn't considered.
Creep tuning vid would be cool.
What's your thought on the bowtech amplify?
I would do a how to on measuring draw length for a bow (not the archer). Not much out there and I’ve read conflicting information. I would like for you to do more testing with different arrow configurations/vane configurations. Also the bow builds that you were planning on doing last year would be incredible.
Easton draw length indicator shaft has measurements printed on it for that very purpose…around $20 if memory serves
Any idea what the SS34 shoots that 420 grain arrow at? Just trying to compare to see how big of a jump you get going to 80 lbs. The SS34 shot a 350 grain arrow 316/327 in your other video.
Subtract around 20 FPS from the speeds given in his SS34 video for a 420 grain arrow. 420 gr. Minus 350 gr. Equals 70 gr. 70 gr. Divided by 5 equals 14. 14 times 1.5 equals 21. This will be approximately 21 FPS slower than the speed of a 350 gr. Arrow at 70 lbs and 30” DL.
I can’t imagine shooting 20+ arrows a day at 80 lbs. I seen prime released some arrows and components, is there a chance you’ll be doing a video on those?
You get used to it. I only have 1 bow, Ventum 33 @ 84lbs and shoot in a league with my oldest. Heck I shoot it all year including TAC & local 3D's. My thoughts are... I can do it now so why not? In 10-20 yrs I might not be able to. Only live once
Be awesome if you could get your hands on an Athens Bow.
imagine the dryfire if the hand scale gives out!! LOLOL
So, did you lock the limb pocket screws, or even open?
What would you recommend for string silencers and or limb dampeners? I just picked one up last weekend
I'm an 80 bow fan!
When you going to do a Hoyt VTM 34 @ 80lbs?
Sweet!
Review on Vector Arrows??!
Elite Verdict review please.
Nice. Drools. Saalute Stay fearless
How does the cam adjustment work?
how about a carbon bow shoot out. ranking the carbon bows best to worst
If I could pull 80# I would get this bow. But the ss34 might be my choice. That and the elite omnia.
Thanks
Why the demand for a comfort bow at 80lbs? If you’re looking for speed, there are tons of bows that are much faster at 70lbs.
So whats the remote control for thats on the shelf?
Awsome video mfjj 🤙
The orbital dampeners weigh 2 oz apiece. That’s a quarter of a pound. No need for 80# bow when you can get the same speed from a 70# bow.
speed might be the same, but the arrow weight (and so the momentum for the same speed) is different. If you have already a long DL the benefit compared to a 70 lbs bow is likely minimal, however, for hunters with a short DL it may be beneficial.
The SX80 has aluminium limb pockets where the SS34 is plastic. Only other difference.
How about a "How to vid" on... How to hide the amount I spend on bow equipment from my wife. 🤣🤣🤣
Finally...
I don't get how ur coming up with 8fps on 20 grains I just dropped my tac arrows 50 grains an only gained 10fps
Every bow is different and that’s been the average over the years
First: it depends from where you are coming from: if your tac arrow was before 650 grain, and you dropped it to 600 grains than the gain in speed is not as much as it would be if changing the weight from 400 grain to 350 grain.
Second: 8 fps per 20 grain is very very optimistic. I'm not a RF fan boy, but he has some interesting tables on his channel that gives you a better idea what speed gains (at launch) you can expect when changing arrow weights: e.g. 13 fps when dropping the weight from 436 grain to 388 grain - 48 grain for a 13 fps increase, makes 5.4 fps for 20 grains.
Third: all figures to be taken with a grain of salt as the fletching (# of vanes, size, off-set, spine) plays a big role too.
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Always enjoy your reviews. Personally I will be glad when lower bow weights become popular. 80 pound bow is so dumb lol.
Really? I hunt big boars here in Australia and gave up shooting 70lbs as I lost some great big old boars as I prefer using 3 blade cut on contact heads to open the pads for a blood trail and better chance of recovery. The arrows were not punching through the hard mud encrusted gristled fighting pads on the shoulders of the big old boars.
not good got scammed
First
80lb yeesh I can barly pull 60
See your a bow tech fan boy
So they are the closest to published speed this year and the easiest to tune so yeah I think they made a good bow and publish honest info. I like it when manufacturers are honest and their bows are easy to tune
Its easy to see you have no clue who MFJJ is,might watch more of his reviews before making ignorant statements!!!