He's back. I built this saw from Matthias's plans 5 years ago and it is still a joy to use. My motor is a 3 phase with vfd and a little under powered for re sawing but great for everything else. A most enjoyable video.
REALLY! A tuna can shield! I'd have spent hours...drawing-out a shield on 26ga, then bending it in my brake and eventually launching it across the shop because it didn't fit well. You whipped yours out of an old tuna can and it's perfect.You're the man.
In fact I do move the fridge out of the kitchen when I'm not using it. I like my beer cold so technically I'm always using my fridge therefore it never moves. My house is slab on grade so no wood tension problems here. Love your videos and your sense of humor.
It still amazes me that you guys build your houses out of wood. Here in Spain it is unthinkable to do anything of the like. The floor in my house is built out of big tiles over solid concrete.
4:25 seems to have been the culprit of the leaning. You can see it at 0:35. I couldn't tell if there was another "catch" on the back side. So it seems your band saw was tilted and twisted a bit from the start. Glad you got things squared away!
Wow, a lot of work. I understand the esthetics of having it "Right" -- I wonder though if in this case "the perfect is the enemy of the good" applies. It was hugely informative watching you make these adjustments. More power to you!
we got an old general international band saw at work. got some slight warping in the frame. it's been under tension with a 2" wide blade the entire time i've been there, about 10 years.
Ironically I was about to correct the issue of my not having bought the plans yet and this vid pops up! Bolts & nuts + a dab of greese or Peratex brand Antisieze = no problems with "cold welding" over time ... I have actually been able to unscrew car exhaust hanger bolts with this stuff... we are talking nuts rusted round and apparently fused to the bolt threads, the part where the threads mate is usually still pristine ( but not much else) Thanks for the update !
Some antisieze on the mating surface between the wheel and hub is also a good idea, especially with steel rims, I had to use a rubber hammer to remove my rims, then I used a little ceramic antisieze and never had the issue again
Wood is also a material that creeps over time, just like concrete. This is taken into account in large beams by having them manufactured slightly upwards so when the load + creep over time makes them sag they are actually straight. However I believe the tension of the blade is rather small to make the crane part deflect, isn't it?
I watched you build that bandsaw. It doesn't seem like nine years ago. Oh my, where does the time go. I'm still watching your videos, and enjoying them just as much. Thanks.
It’s good to see this type of content once again. This makes me want to go back and watch all the ingenious woodworking videos that got me hooked in the first place. Very good lessons in this, I appreciate you sharing it with us. Thank you.
While you are wearing a flannel inside your shop, down here in Phoenix Arizona we are still dealing with 110-degree temperatures. Oh how I envy Canada's Summer's!
Tuna can cut into a shield. Clever. I'm curious if you have a bunch of cans already clean and ready to go or if you just wait until you need something like this to have tuna for dinner.
Perhaps something like the equivalent of a guitar truss rod would be a good idea? Because the blade tension will always pull the arm out of true and it will get worse over time. A truss rod equivalent would allow permanent optimal alignment and increased blade tension if you need.
I actually have about 1" or 25.4 mm (so much easier to note or work with? lol) of slope in floor across width of fridge. Had to build a level platform for fridge to sit on and a removable skewed ramp to put in front when it does get pulled out from wall. I guess on a similar note one doesn't need to flush the toilet until there's a problem either?
Stainless bolts are fine. Just need to use some copper grease to prevent cold welding. Nice to see you're moving about more again, guess the elbows are improving?
I detension after I use it. I see no point in keeping that tension in one spot while not in use. Maybe make it go bump, bump, bump. MW likely uses his more than me. Grizzly put it on there for a reason.
The purpose of detensioning is to forget you did it, so the blade flies off when you start up. That said, I do it. I thought it was supposed to be good for the blade.
I wonder, would it not be more effective to halve the width of the C-section, and then mount the upper spindle between the two halves? That would remove the opportunity for development of sideways traction, and simply leave the compression tension in play - which might be effectively managed by means of a long steel rod down the length of the C-section spine.
True enough, although it could be possible to untension from the bottom spindle, and then lift the top spindle out to change the blade - although admittedly, this is still more work to change the blade.
The stainless steel bolt seizing up is a type of failure called "galling". Stainless on stainless machine threads are very prone to galling when tightened and need an anti galling lubricant applied beforehand to avoid this. Steel on stainless won't gall though.
LOL - I was a bit shocked to see you handplaning. I know it's the easiest, most effective way to do what you wanted to do - but I'm so used to you having a machine or a Raspberry-controlled thingamajig doing whatever it is you're doing....seeing you with a handplane was unexpected. How many times - if ever - have you had to change the tires on your bandsaw? Great video - shows a logical, effective approach to solving the problem at hand.
Yes you could and it would work. But you'd have to keep adjusting it. Which is why I would suggest using some carbon fiber, or metal, stiffening rods which would do the same thing with way less and less often adjustments needed.
Regarding the stainless steel bolt galling and seizing, it is likely the case that the people who had issues didn't use any thread lubricant which will almost certainly result in a seized thread every time. Applying some "copper coat" or similar to the thread would be all it takes to fix the issue; stainless bolts are excellent IF used correctly :)
Very good video! I was wondering how the saw built from Ikea wood was holding up. Good to see you doing some proper woodworking! Btw. my floor joist are concrete.. should I build my saw out of concrete to?
I thought the detensioning was to keep the rubber on the wheel from creeping, not to prevent deflection of the frame. How are your arms doing, have you recovered from the tendonitis issue.
I think the point of releasing tension is to make the blades last longer. It's recommended even for commercial band saws, which are obviously made of steel.
@@matthiaswandel I meant breakage at the weld. If you don't use the bandsaw very often this can happen before the teeth need sharpening. It's happened to me.
I've heard detensioning the bandsaw is more about preserving the blade's life and also the ball bearings on the wheel, not the frame of the machine. Maybe it's more of an issue for really big 24" bandsaws made of steel, because those can put tremendous force on the blades.
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I love your projects, especially when it comes to workshop machines.
When you don't use the saw, why don't you loose the tension of the blades? We have industrial casted iron frame bandsaw but we always loose the tensioner after use... Every day...
Ist immer noch eine geniale Konstruktion. Ein wenig Sägen hier, etwas Schleifen dort und schon ist sie wieder korrekt ausgerichtet. Das liebe ich so an dieser Konstuktion! Ein echtes DIY System! ;-)
Wow 9 years passed already? Felt like you just built it a few years ago lol. By the way, what the motor you using for it? I want to make a belt grinder but not sure which motor to use as the more powerful ones are more money while several people I have spoken with say 1hp or even a bit less should do a good job but the big store guys all say 2hp.
@@dimitar4y I'm working on a bandsaw build with metal frame and 24" diameter mdf for wheels so I have some minor concern. I suppose worst case scenario is making new wheels if there is some creep under blade tension...
I had this happen to my 20 inch saw. I blamed it on using 100+ year old wood for the frame, and that I kept wide blades on with the tension cranked hard.
The larger question is, do you care how straight trees are? Perhaps you do. I definitely care how straight my tools are. I bought my band saw in 1992 and it is still like the day I got it. I've always taken the tension off the blade when I'm not using it too.
"So I used a tuna can...". I've missed these videos. No one McGyvers like you do.
I'm offended and feel vegan.
An insult to say the least, MacGuyver... shame on you.
I was confused at first...tuna cans are always round here...
I know right... good thing he used the Can and not the tuna itself.
Could Matthias be ashamed to say "sardine tin"? No, surely not.
Finally a great wood work video, he’s back! 👍
Sadly, he will never be truly back because of his arms... A god has fallen. Doesn't mean he can't spread the knowledge.
@@17931793248650 What happened to his arms?
@@Vir9il tendonitis
I love seeing you evisiting your old projects. It's fun to hear what you think now after such a long time.
Happy to see you doing woodwork again! Be mindful of those wrists so you don't have to stop again. I get the same kind of thing in my hands.
I'm so glad you're back doing projects, even if it's just fixing old projects. I love your ingenuity and your humor.
Man- 9 years! This means I must have been subbed for probably 11 or 12 years now!
Time flies...
@@Varangian_af_Scaniae Time flies like an arrow - Fruit flies like a banana!
He's back. I built this saw from Matthias's plans 5 years ago and it is still a joy to use. My motor is a 3 phase with vfd and a little under powered for re sawing but great for everything else. A most enjoyable video.
I enjoy all you videos, but your woodshop episodes are my favorite. Really enjoyed seeing this. Thanks.
Mat. Believe me or not, by this video you rewind my memory back when I was watching you making this bandsaw, good job man.
that fridge roast at the end was godlike
REALLY! A tuna can shield!
I'd have spent hours...drawing-out a shield on 26ga, then bending it in my brake and eventually launching it across the shop because it didn't fit well.
You whipped yours out of an old tuna can and it's perfect.You're the man.
I think I say this every video; but it's always a pleasure watching you work. Thanks for sharing the maintenance and advice with us!
A classic Matthias video! I've missed these so much! You've honestly made my day. I know things have been crazy lately, I wish you well.
Everytime I watch your videos Im amazed by your creativity and resourcefulness. Keep up the great work. All the best to you and your family!
9 years - great result!!!
I built wooden band saw too. Thank you for video and plans
In fact I do move the fridge out of the kitchen when I'm not using it. I like my beer cold so technically I'm always using my fridge therefore it never moves. My house is slab on grade so no wood tension problems here. Love your videos and your sense of humor.
Great to see you working with your arms again Matthias. Looking forward to more inventiveness coming soon...
Matthias I love the remarks at the end. I hope you live a long life and have the same attituded. Some people are are just ignorant.
Glad to see you back in the shop again!
It still amazes me that you guys build your houses out of wood. Here in Spain it is unthinkable to do anything of the like. The floor in my house is built out of big tiles over solid concrete.
So happy to see that we're back to woodworking! .. so exciting!
Great to see you back again Matt :) :) :)
4:25 seems to have been the culprit of the leaning. You can see it at 0:35. I couldn't tell if there was another "catch" on the back side. So it seems your band saw was tilted and twisted a bit from the start. Glad you got things squared away!
Wow, a lot of work. I understand the esthetics of having it "Right" -- I wonder though if in this case "the perfect is the enemy of the good" applies. It was hugely informative watching you make these adjustments. More power to you!
we got an old general international band saw at work. got some slight warping in the frame. it's been under tension with a 2" wide blade the entire time i've been there, about 10 years.
Nice to see you back again Matt, I look forward to more of your "adventures"
great to see u back doing wood work
Back to the great videos. Excellent!
Holy cow j just realised I've been a subscriber for 9 years!!!!! Long live the man saw
Thanks a lot for this new video. My son and me we apreciate all you do.
Missed these videos. Glad to see you got the (one man) band back together.
You haven't make woodworking videos in so long I had to start woodworking myself. Now I can finally quit this great, rewarding hobby
Every time I think you are done adding clamps, you add ten more.
There can never be enough clamps
@@ratchet1freak not according to glue manufacturers. 150 PSI is the recommended clamping pressure for softwood. So every clamp is good for 3-3/4 sqin.
hey man I've been watching your video since like 2013.. you made me want to be a carpenter..
I haven't used the bell for any other channel but I'm doing it for you now because you do amazing work and I want to support you!
So very glad to see Matthias back doing woodworking stuff again! I also can't believe that it's been 9 yrs since you built that bandsaw!
Glad to see you tackle that. Hope all is better going forward...
Glad to see you , mat
Wohoo! Wandel in action! I am very glad to see you again. I hope your arms are better.
Regards,
Etna.
What's wrong with his arms? Did they get more out from beating off
Ironically I was about to correct the issue of my not having bought the plans yet and this vid pops up!
Bolts & nuts + a dab of greese or Peratex brand Antisieze = no problems with "cold welding" over time ... I have actually been able to unscrew car exhaust hanger bolts with this stuff... we are talking nuts rusted round and apparently fused to the bolt threads, the part where the threads mate is usually still pristine ( but not much else)
Thanks for the update !
Some antisieze on the mating surface between the wheel and hub is also a good idea, especially with steel rims, I had to use a rubber hammer to remove my rims, then I used a little ceramic antisieze and never had the issue again
Very interesting update on the saw.
Wood is also a material that creeps over time, just like concrete. This is taken into account in large beams by having them manufactured slightly upwards so when the load + creep over time makes them sag they are actually straight. However I believe the tension of the blade is rather small to make the crane part deflect, isn't it?
I missed your video's i hope this is a sign that you are back on track again.
This channel is way too underrated! Real craftsmanship is hard to come by now, it’s always nice to watch these videos!
Very nice to see that your arms are back in working order.
Finally. Some good ol' Matthias videos. I don't really like lego stuff, but this is pure gold
This bandsaw is on the list of things I want to do this winter. I already bought your plans :)
Love the RIM shirt
That shirt preceeds your time at RIM by probably half a decade!
Nice to see a revisit of and old build :D
I love these videos and special how you aren't afraid to use tuna can technology.
I watched you build that bandsaw. It doesn't seem like nine years ago. Oh my, where does the time go. I'm still watching your videos, and enjoying them just as much. Thanks.
Good to see you word-working again!!!
It’s good to see this type of content once again. This makes me want to go back and watch all the ingenious woodworking videos that got me hooked in the first place. Very good lessons in this, I appreciate you sharing it with us. Thank you.
Good come back
A Matthias bandsaw video! My day is now perfect!
The tendinitis looks like it's cleared up seeing the way you went at that hand planing! Yay!
While you are wearing a flannel inside your shop, down here in Phoenix Arizona we are still dealing with 110-degree temperatures. Oh how I envy Canada's Summer's!
Even while temperatures hit the 30s for a few days, the basement always stayed below 20 C
Yes! A new woodshop video!
I was under the impression that taking the blade tension off was to be kind to the tires on the wheels. Good work!
Oh boy have i missed these type of videos.
I missed these
I have inserted dowels into the bottom, and cut them to the appropriate length to make the bottom sit level.
I guess I've been watching your channel for over 10 years? Wow. Time flies. Always a great show Matthias.
I really love your bandsaw. After all these years. Would you recommend anyone to build one? I'm thinking about building one.
So nice to see a woodworking you:) Hope you recovered and are fine:)
Tuna can cut into a shield. Clever. I'm curious if you have a bunch of cans already clean and ready to go or if you just wait until you need something like this to have tuna for dinner.
Perhaps something like the equivalent of a guitar truss rod would be a good idea? Because the blade tension will always pull the arm out of true and it will get worse over time. A truss rod equivalent would allow permanent optimal alignment and increased blade tension if you need.
I actually have about 1" or 25.4 mm (so much easier to note or work with? lol) of slope in floor across width of fridge. Had to build a level platform for fridge to sit on and a removable skewed ramp to put in front when it does get pulled out from wall. I guess on a similar note one doesn't need to flush the toilet until there's a problem either?
Thank you for captions.
Do I move the fridge to de-tension the floor joists? No.. should I? :D Nice video as always Matthias
Stainless bolts are fine. Just need to use some copper grease to prevent cold welding. Nice to see you're moving about more again, guess the elbows are improving?
Good job.
As always - another very interesting and educational video that is entertaining as well. Great work man!
I have a quick release on my steel bandsaw... I still never detension it.
Wordsnwood (Art Mulder) ... You’re a monster!
I detension after I use it. I see no point in keeping that tension in one spot while not in use. Maybe make it go bump, bump, bump. MW likely uses his more than me. Grizzly put it on there for a reason.
Yes I am.
The purpose of detensioning is to forget you did it, so the blade flies off when you start up. That said, I do it. I thought it was supposed to be good for the blade.
I wonder, would it not be more effective to halve the width of the C-section, and then mount the upper spindle between the two halves? That would remove the opportunity for development of sideways traction, and simply leave the compression tension in play - which might be effectively managed by means of a long steel rod down the length of the C-section spine.
and it would make blade changes extremely difficult. Also much harder to build. Also gets way in the way while using it.
True enough, although it could be possible to untension from the bottom spindle, and then lift the top spindle out to change the blade - although admittedly, this is still more work to change the blade.
In case anybody hasn't said it yet, you should use anti-seize on any stainless to stainless connections to avoid that cold-welding problem.
I used to have a different bandsaw with a cast iron frame, but I did make my own riser block out of hardwood for it. It worked well.
oh man love the mic drop at the end...
That is the most handtool woodworking video I have seen from you! What is next? New bandsaw done completely manually? 🙂
Foot pedal bandsaw sounds like an interesting project.
yes stainless gauls but is ok if you lubricate with grease
The stainless steel bolt seizing up is a type of failure called "galling". Stainless on stainless machine threads are very prone to galling when tightened and need an anti galling lubricant applied beforehand to avoid this. Steel on stainless won't gall though.
LOL - I was a bit shocked to see you handplaning. I know it's the easiest, most effective way to do what you wanted to do - but I'm so used to you having a machine or a Raspberry-controlled thingamajig doing whatever it is you're doing....seeing you with a handplane was unexpected.
How many times - if ever - have you had to change the tires on your bandsaw?
Great video - shows a logical, effective approach to solving the problem at hand.
Very good. And how are the mice?
i wonder if you could do a truss rod like in a guitar neck insert to tune the angle?
Yes you could and it would work. But you'd have to keep adjusting it. Which is why I would suggest using some carbon fiber, or metal, stiffening rods which would do the same thing with way less and less often adjustments needed.
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Regarding the stainless steel bolt galling and seizing, it is likely the case that the people who had issues didn't use any thread lubricant which will almost certainly result in a seized thread every time. Applying some "copper coat" or similar to the thread would be all it takes to fix the issue; stainless bolts are excellent IF used correctly :)
Very good video! I was wondering how the saw built from Ikea wood was holding up. Good to see you doing some proper woodworking! Btw. my floor joist are concrete.. should I build my saw out of concrete to?
I thought the detensioning was to keep the rubber on the wheel from creeping, not to prevent deflection of the frame. How are your arms doing, have you recovered from the tendonitis issue.
I think the point of releasing tension is to make the blades last longer. It's recommended even for commercial band saws, which are obviously made of steel.
what, that keeps the teeth from getting dull? Makes no sense to me.
@@matthiaswandel Well keeping the blade tensioned makes it longer, therefore thinner, so, the opposite! ;)
@@matthiaswandel I meant breakage at the weld. If you don't use the bandsaw very often this can happen before the teeth need sharpening. It's happened to me.
Not only do i move the refrigerator, I move the entirety of the house out for those joists!
I've heard detensioning the bandsaw is more about preserving the blade's life and also the ball bearings on the wheel, not the frame of the machine. Maybe it's more of an issue for really big 24" bandsaws made of steel, because those can put tremendous force on the blades.
I love your projects, especially when it comes to workshop machines.
When you don't use the saw, why don't you loose the tension of the blades? We have industrial casted iron frame bandsaw but we always loose the tensioner after use... Every day...
Matthias... when are you not using your refrigerator?
Ist immer noch eine geniale Konstruktion. Ein wenig Sägen hier, etwas Schleifen dort und schon ist sie wieder korrekt ausgerichtet. Das liebe ich so an dieser Konstuktion! Ein echtes DIY System! ;-)
Wow 9 years passed already? Felt like you just built it a few years ago lol. By the way, what the motor you using for it? I want to make a belt grinder but not sure which motor to use as the more powerful ones are more money while several people I have spoken with say 1hp or even a bit less should do a good job but the big store guys all say 2hp.
I only have 1/2 hp on mine, and it's adequate
Constant tension on the blade for 9 years and no distortion of the wheels?
@@dimitar4y I'm working on a bandsaw build with metal frame and 24" diameter mdf for wheels so I have some minor concern. I suppose worst case scenario is making new wheels if there is some creep under blade tension...
I had this happen to my 20 inch saw. I blamed it on using 100+ year old wood for the frame, and that I kept wide blades on with the tension cranked hard.
How is your back these days. I've had back issues for some time. So I'm on your side here.
That was good. Alternate suggestion: Do you lay your trees down when you aren't outside and enjoying them?
The larger question is, do you care how straight trees are? Perhaps you do. I definitely care how straight my tools are. I bought my band saw in 1992 and it is still like the day I got it. I've always taken the tension off the blade when I'm not using it too.