It's refreshing to find someone who still has some integrity. You could have passed this design off as your own and not to many people would have known. In addition, I really like your teaching style. Awesome video!
Please tell me that you have a kid who insisted that their Calico Critters or action figures get a woodshop and yard sale playset. I want this to be real! 😅😅😅😅
I have seen hundreds of videos and yours is the first with scale models. A great way of explaining and visualizing how they work and a great concept to decide which to build. Great job!!!
I framed houses for years. We built sawhorses out of 1 X 4. As long as there are no knots, you would be amazed at how much weight they carry. We would string them around the outside and put 1 X 12 on them for a walk board. If you slant the legs you can stack them as high as you want. You do need to be careful when stepping on the bottom horizontal member.
As a recently retired contractor, I have seen the old ways and the new ways to do things. Sometimes out of laziness or time constraints I have even just used two 5 gallon buckets instead of saw horses. That being said, great content, great delivery and easy to follow. A big thumbs up!
I always has two buckets screwed through the bottom to a 2 x 8 around when sheet rocking and taping ceilings. So easy and nobody could be bothered to steal it.
Haha! I love that monologue about subscription! Not only because it's honest, but because it points out what I dislike about other channels' attempts to fool you into subscribing.
Man, this video is awesome. I love the fact that you highlighted the learning value of building these versus going to a big box store to just swipe a credit card. The rope knots pointers were great as well. I learned a lot from this video and given my small shop, I will definitely be looking to make this build for my own use. Great work!!!
Right on!! I've been woodworking for forty plus years,, n I'VE NEVER seen a better demo, n instruction on how to not only cut n build something so fundamental to tool use, math, design,,and executed in a realistic way. I love the included recurs, n the fact that Nobody learns without making some mistakes. Rock on !! Eat dust! Howie ;)
Of all the guys and gals that do this, I really admire your honesty. Some of these goobs edit out mistakes but anybody who has built about anything knows you make mistakes, you drop stuff, and some things like to hide from you. You are my favorite woodworker. Stay real brother!
Never thought much about it, but I usually dont go back to channels when the builder doesnt admit or show mistakes. If its too perfect or "clean" I dont feel compelled to come back for more. Great point.
Yes, these are awesome. I built a set years ago and they have served me well. I also cut a 45 degree edge on the bottom of the upper cross brace. This allows me to hang them on a french cleat wall.
@@itsio7188 I'm currently in the process of doing a French cleat system in my garage. Going well so far! Good luck when you start yours! I found a channel here forgot the same that helped give me some tips on how to make one and I just adjusted to fit my own style garage :).
I built a set of these almost 10 years ago and I have loaded them to well over 1500 pounds per pair (the cross planks bowed but the horses stood strong) and still have them. If you cut a 45 degree bevel on the top cross member you can set them up for french cleats and hang them on the wall. Great video.
@@stevem5139 The stack of lumber was 20 sheets of 7/16 OSB, 40 8'- 2x4, 16-8' 2x6 and some misc. brackets. Cracked one leg when I bumped the pile backing up the pickup. 1500 is my best estimate.
Cody, there are several reasons I've decided to 'smash that subscribe button' but the immediate take aways for me were the humor, the accountability and the genuine delivery of your info. Thanks for some new and very entertaining content! FYI, the bolts and holes vs boats and hoes snippit was fuggin awesome! Keep up the great work, brother!
8:00 - Once you have your FIRST angled cut, you can measure 32" from each corner and it will automagically set your angles for each subsequent cut. Great video!
This design is great! I built similar sawhorses. I chose vertical legs because it was simpler. I built them a little wider so I didn't need the extra stability of angled legs. I used 3/4" OSB ripped at 6 inches as the cross-members with a bevel for a french cleat - a sawhorse hangs on the wall french cleat and the other sawhorse hangs on the first sawhorse.
I think I would rather put a hinged tray to lash the bottom rails as that is a really convenient aspect to the cheap plastic sawhorses I have and use regularly. Those trays are great for holding tools and fasteners on a job site when trying to keep the work surface itself clean.
First and foremost: thanks for the video. A few random other thoughts: I like the fact that you made a mistake, owned it and moved forward from there. It gives less experienced DIYers some encouragement that mistakes are part of the process. I agree with your assessment early in the video that this is an opportunity to learn or sharpen skills. A trip to the big box store to buy something doesn't give you that opportunity. I like that you outlined what you were looking for early in the process. ....I have never seen a bowline done that way, but it definitely works. .... I did not understand the need for a double bevel on the legs until the very end. It enables the legs to flare out as they get closer to the ground. Anyway, thanks for the video.
I appreciate your instructional video mixed with settled humor. Also your transparency with mistakes and plans ownership are refreshing. Keep up the good work. Cheers!
Thank you for sharing. Really appreciate the rope work. The bowline and truckers hitch are by far the two most useful knots. Learn these two and you won’t ever need to by a ratcheting frustration device
For heavy loads we always used the 2×4 I beam version with the top piece setting directly on top of the legs with appropriate bracing. That design could withstand nearly unlimited weight...
Just tried your bowline method, OMG fantastic no rabbit coming out of the hole, over the log , round the tree and back down the hole. Good onya Knackers!!
This is the most incredible Video I have ever viewed. I have never seen anyone on any video admit that they made a mistake. Then went on to correct and make a new video showing the exact same thing in its proper dimensions. I am so impressed with his Professionalism, that I'd love to have him as a friend, I could learn so much from him. not only in his building skills but more importantly in his PROFESSIONALISM. THANK YOU.
I built some of these many years ago. I believe I saw them in a popular mechanics issue or something. They do work as described, and a fun project to teach kids some wood working techniques. However... the notch that pinches the horizontal 2x4 eventually breaks along the grain under extreme loads or if you pull your cord too tight. My fix was to take some 3" wide x 1/8" flat metal and cut it to match the notch. Then drill and attach on opposing sides of the saw horse end and now you have a head on the horse that can never split. The next set, I cut small teeth into the edge of the plate that faced the horizontal 2x4 and the teeth would bite into the wood making it all even stiffer. Anyway, thanks for the great video.
Watching from Haiti : Thank you so much for this video. I totally understand you when saying you have to make it right. Even if it's work it is going to bother you . Thank you. youn give me the measurements to do my own. I have been dreaming ofdoing a pair of these since I 've started woodowrking about four years ago .
Love the video. Love the transparency with the errors. I'm a firm believer that people learn more from mistakes than from doing it right the first time. Love the combination of skills with the woodworking and the knots. Amazing.
I have learned so much from my mistakes, I hate to admit. One tip though, don't admit you learned something from mistake, say you learned it through trial and error,or it came to you. Unfortunately other people's perception of one will be better if one isn't as true full in this instance.
yup, I believe the reason why we tend to learn more from mistakes is that you will probably never forget a real bummer whereas if you did all the right things and end up with a nice product you are less likely to remember all the steps. From my self I have noticed that I actually sometimes have a hard time remembering processes if did everything right if it is not something i routinely do
Chances are that if you could make the mistake, I most assuredly would. But don't worry, I'll find several more mistakes to make before the project is finished.
Two things ..... One .. I really appreciate a guy that will admit that they don't build everything perfect the first time and will admit mistakes. We can all learn from those. Two .. I am a retired rescue team leader and you are absolutely correct about the knots. I use those two knots on almost a weekly basis as well as several others. Thanks for the great video. Excellent!
OMG this is the most easy/clearest DIY video ever done in the history of internet, man, i don't have more words for this than absolutely easy!!!!!! And the explanations of the cutting process is beyond clear, man, ohhh......
I've had 2 sets of sawhorses in my 50 plus years woodworking life. I just sold my second pair in anticipation of a move. My first were the standard, not foldable nesting style. My second were the commercial plastic folding style. The first set were used about 45 years, the second about 3 years. The first ones rotted, the legs were constantly in need of tightning, I had sawed into the cross piece innumerable times, yet were troupers, so, I was forced to get new.I liked the idea of folding since I no longer had a shop or garage. The plastic ones worked great, but, wanting to reduce weight and space for a move to another town, I sold them. I use them more as a table than for sawing. I have to say both have held more weight than I thought they would. Your efforts on this video are encouraging me to make my next set. The compound cuts with simple tools and the use of knots was very instructing. I did see I have been tying a bowline wrong since my Boy Scout days back in the late '50's. I don't know what knot it was but it is not a bowline. Thank you so much..
Wonderful to hear Bradley, and I’m glad I’m inspiring you to get out there and get a few more callouses on those hands 😁 Someone already beat me to it, but you haven’t been tying a bowline wrong, just different is all. More than one way to skin a ca…bowline!
@@1ambulator Let me have a run at this : Navy/Naval , Farmers , English & French & Spanish , Double ( both even and odd length loops , Triple ( also even and odd length loops , On a Bight , Throw , and finally - from a topological point of view - a Sheet Bend - as it's internals are indistinguishable from that which makes a Bowline such an ideal knot. [ ex member of the IGKT ]
May I just say: this is excellent; truly. Indeed, this is how EVERYONE ought to teach an interest or skill; i.e., with planning, modeling, experimentation, humility, and humor. Sincerely: thank you for making this video. I genuinely feel as though I have a greater appreciation now, even for knots--which I was not expecting at all!
One thing about these shop dog style horses is that you can easily pick up and move individual horses by grabbing the upper cross member from the outside(that is you standing on the side without the upper cross member). It will balance right vertically and you can walk easily with it at your side in the collapsed or assembled forms. Not an apparently important feature until it comes to workflow and not having something always kicking you in the shin.
Thank you for showcasing a non power tool build!! Wonderful presence and information. Honesty is an extra 50 points :) Looking forward to trying this build. Thank you again.
Framer carpenter here, we normally build a new set on every house, about 2 sets a month. This is a great set that doesn't take up a lot of room, especially on punch out work. Thanks
I was a framing carpenter many years ago & thought I was superman....at times we should have used a crane & didn't like macho dumbasses....paid the price ever since....I trust you won't make that mistake.
AWESOME!! I LOVE YOUR MODELS, I was just thinking last night that I needed to look through my scrap to build some saw horses. ABSOLUTELY THE BEST, MOST INCREDIBLE DESIGN I HAVE EVER SEEN!! THANK YOU TONS FOR IT, THANK YOU ALSO FOR YOUR MOST EXCELLENT INSTRUCTION, YOU ROCK!!!
Just found this channel and it's about time, I'm no carpenter or a professional for that matter and just more of a hobbyist/maker. But just wanted to commend your attention to detail and instruction is outstanding, and hopefully I can learn something by having found your channel. Also cannot wait to build a set of these for myself.
I just bought my first Japanese pull saw not long ago when I needed to cut the legs shorter on my mother-in-law's bar stools. They are life changing! I use them all the time now!
Although I’ve built my whole adult life plus I still will be checking in for tips and tricks. I love the content and enthusiasm for building. For all those so called know it all’s, just know ANY level carpenter/woodworker/builder can pick up tricks of another and this man knows what he’s doing and also has some sweet hand saws. Keep rocking and rolling brother.
Never seen a bowline tied that way. I've been tying bowlines pretty much weekly for about 55 years now. I can tie it blindfolded, behind my back, behind my head and hanging upside down. But I've never seen it done quite like that. Interesting. Just goes to show ya, even us know-it-alls don't know it all! Nice presentation, thanks!
When I began woodworking I made a pair of these but did not know to splay the legs. Made a rectangular frame 4' by 8' with 3 cross braces attached the horses to the outer cross braces then placed a sheet of 3/4 plywood for a passable work table. Also had half sheet for when I needed to have multiple clamping points. They were firm long ways but rackety side ways. Thank you for the 10 and 22 degree splay it would have really helped with my takedown table.
Just bought the plans. And only two months later, i got the ropes on. For me the pairing of the legs and the proper cut out was the hardest to get right! Very happy with the results!
I've seen a rip off of this design before. Your video is really encouraging IMO. I started doing things at our cottage just like here, on the ground. Unfortunately I didn't know of this design yet. Now I know, my next pair of saw horses will be like these.
Wow, what a video! I like your presentation, your scale model skills, your explanations, and your woodcraft skills. Your honesty in NOT taking credit or profiting from the design of these saw horses is admirable. Oh yeah, these are probably the best design of saw horses I've seen. Thanks for the presentation and the link to the plans.
I'd never seen a bowline tied this way!! And I teach Cub Scouts how to tie it! Thanks for this new way of tying it, I'll definitely try to teach it to the kids who struggle with the rabbit out of the well, around the tree and back inside the well method!
Truly enjoying the video. I find it humbling & realistic when situations go unexpected .. saw hitting ground.. then placing wood block to prevent future cuts .. and some irony of future preventing by cutting with sawhorses.
Gday mate, have to say this is best video I've seen on a how to build a set of wooden saw horses. As an Aussie Carpenter, they've been great. Love the videos. Keep up the content.
Also the bit and brace (when sharpened properly!) is an efficient tool and a pleasure to use. An alternative to the cam strap is to wrap some cord around the lower braces and put a windlass stick in there and wind it up tight. Works great on old frame saws and on fence repairs.
I am just in the process of building a set of sawhorses very similar to this. I used 10 deg and 20 deg. But I did run into problems with the notches. Thanks for posting this video. I used my table saw to make the two angled cuts. Worked quite well. The blade was set to 10 deg and the guide set to 20 deg. Bought a set of the plans - $5 is a sweet deal.
I found that if your "SPEED SQUARE" has grooves in it for the numbers (like his) they can be filled in using a black crayon(or white crayon if your speed square is blue)This is to "HIGHLIGHT" the numbers make it easier to see/read.
Secondary tip! If you use your speed square for anything you put finish on, don't use a wax crayon, use some paint and just wipe off the excess! Wax will cause fisheyes in your finish!
I built a pair of this type designed by others about five years ago. Still using them today. They're the best sawhorses I've ever used. There are three things I did in building mine that I would suggest as important for anybody wanting to build this type: 1) I applied the rails, two on one side, one on the other, so that the folded horses could nest flush against each other, taking up less space in storage. 2) I put a fender washer under each of the four hex bolt heads and nuts, giving them a better bearing surface and allowing easier folding/unfolding of the horses. 3) Didn't use a rope; used a couple of strong bungee bands with hook ends. No messing with loop-de-loop and tug and grunt, and the horse is ready to use in seconds. I can lift the whole assembly by lifting the top cross member, so the bungee bands are the best solution. Each of those mods has worked a treat.
First-time viewer here. I've been trying to remember how to tie a bowline knot for a year. Every time, I have to look at a diagram to do it. Your video showed me the simplest way to tie a bowline I've ever seen. Thank you
The marlinspike method is new to me recently as well, and I really liked seeing it here. I'm a full convert. Seeing a truckers hitch tied with a marlinspike to make the bowline, then another slippery one to make the loop is awesome. The marlinspike hitch might be one of my favourite knots in that it's so useful in so many ways, and can be used to form the basis of many other knots.
@@MarcosElMalo2 That's exactly how I learned the bowline in Boy Scouts 50 years ago and how I do it today ........Got to learn this method though .....Much easier ......It's like magic .....
Really like the presentation, the sharing of info, and your sense of humor about the foul up you made, get some more vids out to us. I have no problem buying the plans for these. Keep up the good work.
Been watching woodworking videos since last two days, must have watched over a fifty videos, and this one stood out from the rest. I usually don't sub or comment, but did them immediately for this video. Loved your presentation, storytelling, making those small models, well thought out description, handled fumbles gracefully, attention to details, and admission of perfectionism with that sense of humour. You sir, have earned my respect!. 😎👍
First video I've seen from this bloke, good honest content and love the fact he directs to someone else for the plans. I'll be watching loads more of his vids
Excellent video, first of all I really appreciate your integrity. The fact that you showed your screw up and that you wouldn't accept okay results is impressive, few people nowadays are willing to take the time to do it right. Also it's nice to see somebody working with the Japanese fan saw because not everybody has sophisticated power tools, plus I like the use of a rope as a tie member, not only are they cheap, their lightweight and make it easy for storage and transportation. Thanks for a great video.
Just love the models demo, very great explanation and great way to demo the differences. One of the best I've seen in a long long time!!! Pa bless you for no vs music . You have my full attention! 👍👍👍
24:50 Actually, I think that if you build something in 1:10 scale, it will only take 1:100 of the max load because the cross section of all your beams are 2 dimensional so the cross section area will be 1:100 of the original. That said, wood has long fibers and with such a small models the fiber strenght might help you a bit.
What you are referring to is known as Square Cube Law and it governs everything about scaling except for dimensions. Dimensions scale perfectly. Relationships between weight, loads, horsepower, and just about everything else do not.
Broken philosophy from the Genghis Khan's observation, “One arrow alone can be easily broken but many arrows are indestructible.” So Khan might agree with Thomas' reply. But, I can't wait to see 'Strength Testing These Into Failure' because i tend to disagree with Khan--they won't be indestructable. I'd estimate the full scale would hold more than 5 times that of the 1:10 models.
When you do your trucker hitch, you can make it "auto lock" itself simply by running the end of the rope through the loop twice instead of just once. After that, when you pull it tight, it will lock itself because the second run through the loop causes it to bite down. :)
After finishing the video, I’m glad you did it. Good to see what mistakes could have been made along the way. And, I’m glad you pointed people to the creator’s plans, which are very affordably priced!
They day is finally here, I've watched this video many many times, but I have severe learning disabilities so I am beyond greatful that you have cheap plans available. Just bought it and starting the build right now. Wanted to make a comment because I'm so excited 😁
I'll definitely be adding these to my to-do list. I do a lot of work outside my workshop (no dust collection/shared space) and can hang them on the wall outside along with some half-lapped 8 footers to hold sheet goods.
I really like the idea of the top crossbrace, because it functions as both that, and as a stop that limits how far the legs open. Because of this, I see no need for the rope. Just make the top joint tight. Put in the top cross beam into the notches, clamp the notches tightly to it, then slide the crossbrace up until it touches the outside of the opened notched end. In fact, I would bevel the top edge of the crossbrace to the angle of the notched end, so that it functions better as a stop, and doesn't just connect at its corner edge, but across the full face of that side. If the crossbrace is a tight stop, no need for the rope.
As easy point to miss: the sliding part of the first loop should be the line that carries on down to the 2nd anchor point. Otherwise that loop will slip on itself and bind as you put tension on the hitch. It was a nice way of tying the bowline too.
I can’t wait to make these! A question: I’m 6’1” and need these higher- can I just add 2” to the length and still put the cross braces at 6” from the bottom or will that added length affect anything?
I made the legs longer but left the cross braces that much further from the end of the leg. you could also make the braces longer to keep the splay angle on the legs the same
I loved the models you made. Crafty guy. I also liked how you showed the fact that you made smaller units by design, or mistake and showed it. I enjoyed your how to and why it works being this way.
Well done, bud. I have so many woodworking channels in my subscription list that I'd kind of sworn I wouldn't add more of them, but you won me over. Looking forward to seeing your future projects, and best of luck with your channel.
I haven't read all the comments but, for the "set' of sawhorses that had too short of legs, I'ld suggest using a 2 X 6 for the top cross piece instead of a 2 X 4. The extra 2 inches for the top cross piece would bring your work project back up to the proper working height. Yes, it's a trade-off but not as expensive in the long run.
i learned a lot from you. that's actually helpful to many people that do not have fancy carpenter tools. knowing the old and manual ways are really awesome and nice stuffs
Multi angle bevels hurt like long division. You made it simple. Brilliantly done, even with 15:15, showing your mistakes is a great educational illustration. Not to mention a great moral boost to hobbyist screwballs like most of us are.
OK Cody, you said if you got over 10k likes on the video you'd do one on the strength test of the mockups. It's time to pay the piper. :) In all seriousness though, those are great, strong and simple. Thanks for the video.
that's an interesting way to tie a bowline. Where'd you learn to tie it that way? It definitely isn't the boy scout way, and it also isn't the way I've learned in sailing. It's just as good at measuring the loop size as the method I use, and it's about as fast too, but I've never seen that method before.
@@miketyler2513 That's the boyscout method. It's a bit slower than the way most sailors do it, and it makes it a little harder to measure the size of the loop. If you need to tie it quickly and precisely, you can actually form the "hole" with the working end already through it by crossing the line over itself, then twisting the working end around the standing part. That's the way I normally do it.
So can I just set my angles once with a compound mitre saw (sitting on the ground since I don't have sawhorses), then grab a piece of 2x4 and just keep chopping off 32" lenths for legs? Or do I have to reverse my angles for the "inner" and "outer" sets of legs?
I like videos that challenge me and this one certainly will. I am not an expert craftsman of any sort and, while these cuts seem simple enough, the angles and measurements will be fun to try. Measure 20 times and cut once... unless you mess up and have to get new 2x4s because,,,, you know. Anyhow, thanks for putting this out on your channel and I'll be looking forward to new videos and looking through previously posted videos for more ideas. Cheers.
Just as you used the already cut leg as a sort-of-template, you can clamp on scrap pieces at the beginning, which meets the line of the section you wish to cut off. Might only work for the slot at the top.
It's refreshing to find someone who still has some integrity. You could have passed this design off as your own and not to many people would have known. In addition, I really like your teaching style. Awesome video!
I like the mini models.
I’m a little embarrassed to admit how much fun I had making those… 😆
I was all the way in once I "saw" them!
Im guessing hes good at dool houses...lol
Please tell me that you have a kid who insisted that their Calico Critters or action figures get a woodshop and yard sale playset. I want this to be real! 😅😅😅😅
Rrrright!!!
Attention to detail is awesome.
Ahh, it's the little things.. Good Job 👍
Liked how you showed your mistakes and gave credit to the original builder. Subscribed!
I appreciate that!
I have seen hundreds of videos and yours is the first with scale models. A great way of explaining and visualizing how they work and a great concept to decide which to build. Great job!!!
I framed houses for years. We built sawhorses out of 1 X 4. As long as there are no knots, you would be amazed at how much weight they carry. We would string them around the outside and put 1 X 12 on them for a walk board. If you slant the legs you can stack them as high as you want. You do need to be careful when stepping on the bottom horizontal member.
As a recently retired contractor, I have seen the old ways and the new ways to do things. Sometimes out of laziness or time constraints I have even just used two 5 gallon buckets instead of saw horses. That being said, great content, great delivery and easy to follow. A big thumbs up!
My boss wouldn't give me the time to make saw horses. I had to work off the pile.
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It's easier to carry a saw over to the pile, than carry the pile over to a saw.
I always has two buckets screwed through the bottom to a 2 x 8 around when sheet rocking and taping ceilings. So easy and nobody could be bothered to steal it.
Haha! I love that monologue about subscription! Not only because it's honest, but because it points out what I dislike about other channels' attempts to fool you into subscribing.
Man, this video is awesome. I love the fact that you highlighted the learning value of building these versus going to a big box store to just swipe a credit card. The rope knots pointers were great as well. I learned a lot from this video and given my small shop, I will definitely be looking to make this build for my own use. Great work!!!
Right on!! I've been woodworking for forty plus years,, n I'VE NEVER seen a better demo, n instruction on how to not only cut n build something so fundamental to tool use, math, design,,and executed in a realistic way. I love the included recurs, n the fact that Nobody learns without making some mistakes. Rock on !! Eat dust! Howie ;)
Agree.
Of all the guys and gals that do this, I really admire your honesty. Some of these goobs edit out mistakes but anybody who has built about anything knows you make mistakes, you drop stuff, and some things like to hide from you. You are my favorite woodworker. Stay real brother!
Never thought much about it, but I usually dont go back to channels when the builder doesnt admit or show mistakes. If its too perfect or "clean" I dont feel compelled to come back for more. Great point.
Yes, these are awesome. I built a set years ago and they have served me well. I also cut a 45 degree edge on the bottom of the upper cross brace. This allows me to hang them on a french cleat wall.
That is a spectacular idea! After my deck is finished, my next goal is to french cleat the heck out of my garage!
@@itsio7188 I'm currently in the process of doing a French cleat system in my garage. Going well so far! Good luck when you start yours! I found a channel here forgot the same that helped give me some tips on how to make one and I just adjusted to fit my own style garage :).
Great idea.
Great information! What I most appreciate is you acknowledging your mistake, that is awesome 👏. Will build for sure
I built a set of these almost 10 years ago and I have loaded them to well over 1500 pounds per pair (the cross planks bowed but the horses stood strong) and still have them. If you cut a 45 degree bevel on the top cross member you can set them up for french cleats and hang them on the wall. Great video.
BOOM! I figured they'd be plenty strong, but now we've got real-life experience to back it up. Thanks for the info Matt!
French cleat!! Genius!!! I'm building these tonight right after work. Three beer job, light work
Over 1500 pounds? Really
@@stevem5139 The stack of lumber was 20 sheets of 7/16 OSB, 40 8'- 2x4, 16-8' 2x6 and some misc. brackets. Cracked one leg when I bumped the pile backing up the pickup. 1500 is my best estimate.
Love the French cleat idea!
Cody, there are several reasons I've decided to 'smash that subscribe button' but the immediate take aways for me were the humor, the accountability and the genuine delivery of your info. Thanks for some new and very entertaining content!
FYI, the bolts and holes vs boats and hoes snippit was fuggin awesome! Keep up the great work, brother!
Couldn't have said it better, John! Count me in.
Let's see it you get 10k for your post
Great comment, John.
totally agree !
I agree, too. 👍
8:00 - Once you have your FIRST angled cut, you can measure 32" from each corner and it will automagically set your angles for each subsequent cut. Great video!
This design is great! I built similar sawhorses. I chose vertical legs because it was simpler. I built them a little wider so I didn't need the extra stability of angled legs. I used 3/4" OSB ripped at 6 inches as the cross-members with a bevel for a french cleat - a sawhorse hangs on the wall french cleat and the other sawhorse hangs on the first sawhorse.
I think I would rather put a hinged tray to lash the bottom rails as that is a really convenient aspect to the cheap plastic sawhorses I have and use regularly. Those trays are great for holding tools and fasteners on a job site when trying to keep the work surface itself clean.
I like that you showed your mistake. We all make them as we learn everyday.
Amen
I like how he actually talks (unlike some YT woodworkers)
First and foremost: thanks for the video. A few random other thoughts: I like the fact that you made a mistake, owned it and moved forward from there. It gives less experienced DIYers some encouragement that mistakes are part of the process. I agree with your assessment early in the video that this is an opportunity to learn or sharpen skills. A trip to the big box store to buy something doesn't give you that opportunity. I like that you outlined what you were looking for early in the process. ....I have never seen a bowline done that way, but it definitely works. .... I did not understand the need for a double bevel on the legs until the very end. It enables the legs to flare out as they get closer to the ground. Anyway, thanks for the video.
Thanks for leaving 6:40 in the video. Even after all these years I still do the same thing. It’s a part of the process
I appreciate your instructional video mixed with settled humor. Also your transparency with mistakes and plans ownership are refreshing.
Keep up the good work.
Cheers!
Thank you for sharing. Really appreciate the rope work. The bowline and truckers hitch are by far the two most useful knots. Learn these two and you won’t ever need to by a ratcheting frustration device
For heavy loads we always used the 2×4 I beam version with the top piece setting directly on top of the legs with appropriate bracing. That design could withstand nearly unlimited weight...
Just tried your bowline method, OMG fantastic no rabbit coming out of the hole, over the log , round the tree and back down the hole.
Good onya Knackers!!
Cheers David, glad it helped ya!
The tree is on its side...still same rabbit 🐇
This is the most incredible Video I have ever viewed. I have never seen anyone on any video admit that they made a mistake. Then went on to correct and make a new video showing the exact same thing in its proper dimensions.
I am so impressed with his Professionalism, that I'd love to have him as a friend, I could learn so much from him. not only in his building skills but more importantly in his PROFESSIONALISM. THANK YOU.
I built some of these many years ago. I believe I saw them in a popular mechanics issue or something. They do work as described, and a fun project to teach kids some wood working techniques. However... the notch that pinches the horizontal 2x4 eventually breaks along the grain under extreme loads or if you pull your cord too tight. My fix was to take some 3" wide x 1/8" flat metal and cut it to match the notch. Then drill and attach on opposing sides of the saw horse end and now you have a head on the horse that can never split. The next set, I cut small teeth into the edge of the plate that faced the horizontal 2x4 and the teeth would bite into the wood making it all even stiffer. Anyway, thanks for the great video.
Excellent improvement thanks for posting it
Watching from Haiti : Thank you so much for this video. I totally understand you when saying you have to make it right. Even if it's work it is going to bother you .
Thank you. youn give me the measurements to do my own.
I have been dreaming ofdoing a pair of these since I 've started woodowrking about four years ago .
Love the video. Love the transparency with the errors. I'm a firm believer that people learn more from mistakes than from doing it right the first time. Love the combination of skills with the woodworking and the knots. Amazing.
I have learned so much from my mistakes, I hate to admit. One tip though, don't admit you learned something from mistake, say you learned it through trial and error,or it came to you. Unfortunately other people's perception of one will be better if one isn't as true full in this instance.
yup, I believe the reason why we tend to learn more from mistakes is that you will probably never forget a real bummer whereas if you did all the right things and end up with a nice product you are less likely to remember all the steps. From my self I have noticed that I actually sometimes have a hard time remembering processes if did everything right if it is not something i routinely do
Chances are that if you could make the mistake, I most assuredly would. But don't worry, I'll find several more mistakes to make before the project is finished.
Flgardener says it best. Great video and keep erroring towards greatness. 🐒
Two things ..... One .. I really appreciate a guy that will admit that they don't build everything perfect the first time and will admit mistakes. We can all learn from those. Two .. I am a retired rescue team leader and you are absolutely correct about the knots. I use those two knots on almost a weekly basis as well as several others. Thanks for the great video. Excellent!
I made a set of these about 4 years ago. About the only difference is I made the legs a bit longer (40") for a more comfortable working level.
Appreciate showing the mistake. And giving credit where credit is due
OMG this is the most easy/clearest DIY video ever done in the history of internet, man, i don't have more words for this than absolutely easy!!!!!! And the explanations of the cutting process is beyond clear, man, ohhh......
I do want to make it perfectly clear that the design that you have come up with is pure genius
The little models were a surprise, and worked very well to show the points, even better than full scale. Thanks.
You're welcome! I think I'll be using more in future videos :)
I've had 2 sets of sawhorses in my 50 plus years woodworking life. I just sold my second pair in anticipation of a move. My first were the standard, not foldable nesting style. My second were the commercial plastic folding style. The first set were used about 45 years, the second about 3 years. The first ones rotted, the legs were constantly in need of tightning, I had sawed into the cross piece innumerable times, yet were troupers, so, I was forced to get new.I liked the idea of folding since I no longer had a shop or garage. The plastic ones worked great, but, wanting to reduce weight and space for a move to another town, I sold them. I use them more as a table than for sawing. I have to say both have held more weight than I thought they would. Your efforts on this video are encouraging me to make my next set. The compound cuts with simple tools and the use of knots was very instructing. I did see I have been tying a bowline wrong since my Boy Scout days back in the late '50's. I don't know what knot it was but it is not a bowline. Thank you so much..
considering that there are about a dozen bowlines , I doubt that you've been tying it wrong , just one of the other versions. :-)
@@52Warlock Great consideration. That is a knot that has been a lifesaver over and over. Thanks for responding.
Wonderful to hear Bradley, and I’m glad I’m inspiring you to get out there and get a few more callouses on those hands 😁
Someone already beat me to it, but you haven’t been tying a bowline wrong, just different is all. More than one way to skin a ca…bowline!
@@1ambulator Let me have a run at this : Navy/Naval , Farmers , English & French & Spanish , Double ( both even and odd length loops , Triple ( also even and odd length loops , On a Bight , Throw , and finally - from a topological point of view - a Sheet Bend - as it's internals are indistinguishable from that which makes a Bowline such an ideal knot. [ ex member of the IGKT ]
May I just say: this is excellent; truly. Indeed, this is how EVERYONE ought to teach an interest or skill; i.e., with planning, modeling, experimentation, humility, and humor.
Sincerely: thank you for making this video. I genuinely feel as though I have a greater appreciation now, even for knots--which I was not expecting at all!
Thanks for being so thorough and methodological in what may be so simple to many. I wish I had someone as thoughtful as you teach me things on site.
One thing about these shop dog style horses is that you can easily pick up and move individual horses by grabbing the upper cross member from the outside(that is you standing on the side without the upper cross member). It will balance right vertically and you can walk easily with it at your side in the collapsed or assembled forms. Not an apparently important feature until it comes to workflow and not having something always kicking you in the shin.
I noticed that myself when I was moving them around, pretty sweet!
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Thank you for showcasing a non power tool build!! Wonderful presence and information. Honesty is an extra 50 points :) Looking forward to trying this build. Thank you again.
Framer carpenter here, we normally build a new set on every house, about 2 sets a month. This is a great set that doesn't take up a lot of room, especially on punch out work. Thanks
I was a framing carpenter many years ago & thought I was superman....at times we should have used a crane & didn't like macho dumbasses....paid the price ever since....I trust you won't make that mistake.
Oh no, framing carpenters. 🤦🏽♂️Quick someone build a roof there’s some shouting to b done
This former carpenter can verify the above carpenters are both 💯% correct. The insulator unfortunately is also accurate. Lol
@@evelbill1439 yup, you’re right! And us ‘Elechickens’ are sitting in the van waiting for the framers to finish sheeting in the walls & roof!
@@WyrGuy2,
That’s right Sparky, drink your coffee and bourbon and get paid for it, lol! Jk lol
Credit where it's due. Thanks to your video I went and bought the plans from the author, and then built myself a set.
Thank you.
What a great set of plans!!!!!! Not just directions, but templates too!!!!! Thank you!!!!!
AWESOME!! I LOVE YOUR MODELS, I was just thinking last night that I needed to look through my scrap to build some saw horses. ABSOLUTELY THE BEST, MOST INCREDIBLE DESIGN I HAVE EVER SEEN!! THANK YOU TONS FOR IT, THANK YOU ALSO FOR YOUR MOST EXCELLENT INSTRUCTION, YOU ROCK!!!
Oh my gosh, I am 100% with you hating on those metal horses. Great video! Yay on the 10k+ likes! Great job man!
Just found this channel and it's about time, I'm no carpenter or a professional for that matter and just more of a hobbyist/maker. But just wanted to commend your attention to detail and instruction is outstanding, and hopefully I can learn something by having found your channel. Also cannot wait to build a set of these for myself.
I just bought my first Japanese pull saw not long ago when I needed to cut the legs shorter on my mother-in-law's bar stools. They are life changing! I use them all the time now!
Great saw horses and I love that you can renew the top when you need to
Agreed, Bradley!
Although I’ve built my whole adult life plus I still will be checking in for tips and tricks. I love the content and enthusiasm for building. For all those so called know it all’s, just know ANY level carpenter/woodworker/builder can pick up tricks of another and this man knows what he’s doing and also has some sweet hand saws.
Keep rocking and rolling brother.
Amen!
I am the same and I agree with you 100 %
Never seen a bowline tied that way. I've been tying bowlines pretty much weekly for about 55 years now. I can tie it blindfolded, behind my back, behind my head and hanging upside down. But I've never seen it done quite like that. Interesting. Just goes to show ya, even us know-it-alls don't know it all! Nice presentation, thanks!
Yep
Same! I've been sailing all my life and don't think I've ever seen someone tie a bowline like that.
Y'all know the old rabbit hole and tree routine. Nice to see the modern take on that awesome not.
Saw horses were amazing and cool. Thanks
When I began woodworking I made a pair of these but did not know to splay the legs. Made a rectangular frame 4' by 8' with 3 cross braces attached the horses to the outer cross braces then placed a sheet of 3/4 plywood for a passable work table. Also had half sheet for when I needed to have multiple clamping points. They were firm long ways but rackety side ways. Thank you for the 10 and 22 degree splay it would have really helped with my takedown table.
Just bought the plans.
And only two months later, i got the ropes on.
For me the pairing of the legs and the proper cut out was the hardest to get right!
Very happy with the results!
I've seen a rip off of this design before. Your video is really encouraging IMO. I started doing things at our cottage just like here, on the ground. Unfortunately I didn't know of this design yet. Now I know, my next pair of saw horses will be like these.
I love that you showed your mistakes. These look super sturdy, will definitely give them a try.
Wow, what a video! I like your presentation, your scale model skills, your explanations, and your woodcraft skills. Your honesty in NOT taking credit or profiting from the design of these saw horses is admirable. Oh yeah, these are probably the best design of saw horses I've seen. Thanks for the presentation and the link to the plans.
Cheers Fred, thank you for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed the video and enjoy the channel, means a lot to me!
wood working book in the 1990' had these
@@TheCwag Cool! Just shows the plan stands the test of time. Thanks Cody!! 👍
I'd never seen a bowline tied this way!! And I teach Cub Scouts how to tie it! Thanks for this new way of tying it, I'll definitely try to teach it to the kids who struggle with the rabbit out of the well, around the tree and back inside the well method!
Truly enjoying the video.
I find it humbling & realistic when situations go unexpected .. saw hitting ground.. then placing wood block to prevent future cuts .. and some irony of future preventing by cutting with sawhorses.
Gday mate, have to say this is best video I've seen on a how to build a set of wooden saw horses. As an Aussie Carpenter, they've been great. Love the videos. Keep up the content.
Hey thanks man, I really appreciate it! Cheers!
Did you have to reverse all the angles.... Because you are on the bottom of the flat earth? /s
@@bw1532 no forgot to do that...it ended up upside down, but still useful It in cutting standing on my head
Much respect for crediting the designer. I bought the plans several years ago and I’ve seen him ripped off at least once.
hes not the designer, just the first one who uploaded them on youtube probably.
@@aarx9230 “probably”? You are just speculating?
@@jasonandersen5975 seen these in the 80´s dude. uploading soething to the web desnt make you the inventor.
If you bought these plans it's not your buddy that got ripped off.
@@cosmicomics1755 well, that’s definitely an opinion.
Also the bit and brace (when sharpened properly!) is an efficient tool and a pleasure to use.
An alternative to the cam strap is to wrap some cord around the lower braces and put a windlass stick in there and wind it up tight. Works great on old frame saws and on fence repairs.
I really appreciate you took the time to build out these models for full visual processing.
I am just in the process of building a set of sawhorses very similar to this. I used 10 deg and 20 deg. But I did run into problems with the notches. Thanks for posting this video. I used my table saw to make the two angled cuts. Worked quite well. The blade was set to 10 deg and the guide set to 20 deg. Bought a set of the plans - $5 is a sweet deal.
I found that if your "SPEED SQUARE" has grooves in it for the numbers (like his) they can be filled in using a black crayon(or white crayon if your speed square is blue)This is to "HIGHLIGHT" the numbers make it easier to see/read.
Really solid tip Mr. Robinson! Thank you!
Great tip!
Secondary tip! If you use your speed square for anything you put finish on, don't use a wax crayon, use some paint and just wipe off the excess! Wax will cause fisheyes in your finish!
I built a pair of this type designed by others about five years ago. Still using them today. They're the best sawhorses I've ever used.
There are three things I did in building mine that I would suggest as important for anybody wanting to build this type: 1) I applied the rails, two on one side, one on the other, so that the folded horses could nest flush against each other, taking up less space in storage. 2) I put a fender washer under each of the four hex bolt heads and nuts, giving them a better bearing surface and allowing easier folding/unfolding of the horses. 3) Didn't use a rope; used a couple of strong bungee bands with hook ends. No messing with loop-de-loop and tug and grunt, and the horse is ready to use in seconds. I can lift the whole assembly by lifting the top cross member, so the bungee bands are the best solution. Each of those mods has worked a treat.
First-time viewer here. I've been trying to remember how to tie a bowline knot for a year. Every time, I have to look at a diagram to do it. Your video showed me the simplest way to tie a bowline I've ever seen. Thank you
Glad I could help Mitch!
And not a single mention of rabbits, holes, or trees!
As a yachty, I have tied thousands of bowlines and have never seen this method. Quite interesting but to me it seems cumbersome. Must try it to see.
The marlinspike method is new to me recently as well, and I really liked seeing it here. I'm a full convert. Seeing a truckers hitch tied with a marlinspike to make the bowline, then another slippery one to make the loop is awesome. The marlinspike hitch might be one of my favourite knots in that it's so useful in so many ways, and can be used to form the basis of many other knots.
@@MarcosElMalo2 That's exactly how I learned the bowline in Boy Scouts 50 years ago and how I do it today ........Got to learn this method though .....Much easier ......It's like magic .....
I watch this 11mo after filming but with all the corrections, it one of the realist and best diy's ever
Thanks. This solves many problems associated with traditional home made and manufactured saw horses.
Really like the presentation, the sharing of info, and your sense of humor about the foul up you made, get some more vids out to us. I have no problem buying the plans for these. Keep up the good work.
Been watching woodworking videos since last two days, must have watched over a fifty videos, and this one stood out from the rest. I usually don't sub or comment, but did them immediately for this video. Loved your presentation, storytelling, making those small models, well thought out description, handled fumbles gracefully, attention to details, and admission of perfectionism with that sense of humour. You sir, have earned my respect!. 😎👍
First video I've seen from this bloke, good honest content and love the fact he directs to someone else for the plans. I'll be watching loads more of his vids
Totally agree! So much better than soo many others.
Excellent video, first of all
I really appreciate your integrity. The fact that you showed your screw up and that you wouldn't accept okay results is impressive, few people nowadays are willing to take the time to do it right.
Also it's nice to see somebody working with the Japanese fan saw because not everybody has sophisticated power tools, plus I like the use of a rope as a tie member, not only are they cheap, their lightweight and make it easy for storage and transportation. Thanks for a great video.
Love that you used the bit and brace. While I own a lot of power tools I enjoy the slower pace as well as the peace and quiet of hand tools.
Just love the models demo, very great explanation and great way to demo the differences. One of the best I've seen in a long long time!!! Pa bless you for no vs music . You have my full attention! 👍👍👍
Haha thanks Steven! Trying to dial in my “style” and I feel like I’m getting there. Glad to hear people are enjoying the no music too!
Indeed, please no music! We can play our own music in the background if we need it that badly.
I’m your newest fan. I liked everything about this video, from the miniatures to the failure, and everything in between. Thanks for posting it.
Thank you for the kind words Marcos, welcome aboard!
24:50 Actually, I think that if you build something in 1:10 scale, it will only take 1:100 of the max load because the cross section of all your beams are 2 dimensional so the cross section area will be 1:100 of the original. That said, wood has long fibers and with such a small models the fiber strenght might help you a bit.
What you are referring to is known as Square Cube Law and it governs everything about scaling except for dimensions. Dimensions scale perfectly. Relationships between weight, loads, horsepower, and just about everything else do not.
Broken philosophy from the Genghis Khan's observation, “One arrow alone can be easily broken but many arrows are indestructible.” So Khan might agree with Thomas' reply. But, I can't wait to see 'Strength Testing These Into Failure' because i tend to disagree with Khan--they won't be indestructable. I'd estimate the full scale would hold more than 5 times that of the 1:10 models.
This video is very entertaining and educational...good to see others screw up too!
Thank you for providing measurements 😊
When you do your trucker hitch, you can make it "auto lock" itself simply by running the end of the rope through the loop twice instead of just once. After that, when you pull it tight, it will lock itself because the second run through the loop causes it to bite down. :)
Nice
I learned this from Corprals Corner and from Grey Bearded Green Beret. Check them both out.
I love those small models. It should be a separate video in it's own. Will be handy for modelling as well
After finishing the video, I’m glad you did it. Good to see what mistakes could have been made along the way. And, I’m glad you pointed people to the creator’s plans, which are very affordably priced!
Glad you enjoyed it! Agreed, Woodshopdude's plans are crazy good value for money
They day is finally here, I've watched this video many many times, but I have severe learning disabilities so I am beyond greatful that you have cheap plans available. Just bought it and starting the build right now. Wanted to make a comment because I'm so excited 😁
I'll definitely be adding these to my to-do list. I do a lot of work outside my workshop (no dust collection/shared space) and can hang them on the wall outside along with some half-lapped 8 footers to hold sheet goods.
I really like the idea of the top crossbrace, because it functions as both that, and as a stop that limits how far the legs open. Because of this, I see no need for the rope. Just make the top joint tight. Put in the top cross beam into the notches, clamp the notches tightly to it, then slide the crossbrace up until it touches the outside of the opened notched end. In fact, I would bevel the top edge of the crossbrace to the angle of the notched end, so that it functions better as a stop, and doesn't just connect at its corner edge, but across the full face of that side. If the crossbrace is a tight stop, no need for the rope.
Then don't tie on the rope, you'll feel the difference whether you can see it or not.
I'm gonna have to save this video for later reference now. That was the easiest truckers hitch I've seen yet. =) Also, cool sawhorses.
As easy point to miss: the sliding part of the first loop should be the line that carries on down to the 2nd anchor point. Otherwise that loop will slip on itself and bind as you put tension on the hitch.
It was a nice way of tying the bowline too.
I can’t wait to make these! A question: I’m 6’1” and need these higher- can I just add 2” to the length and still put the cross braces at 6” from the bottom or will that added length affect anything?
I made the legs longer but left the cross braces that much further from the end of the leg. you could also make the braces longer to keep the splay angle on the legs the same
@@DanCech thank you!
Good job men ! , my favorite part is the honesty when a mistake is made . Show more carácter . Thank you !
I love the physical models... must've taken ages to do this, but it explains your thinking perfectly, Great Video!
I loved the models you made. Crafty guy. I also liked how you showed the fact that you made smaller units by design, or mistake and showed it. I enjoyed your how to and why it works being this way.
Thanks Lynard, that means a lot to me!
Well done, bud. I have so many woodworking channels in my subscription list that I'd kind of sworn I wouldn't add more of them, but you won me over. Looking forward to seeing your future projects, and best of luck with your channel.
I haven't read all the comments but, for the "set' of sawhorses that had too short of legs, I'ld suggest using a 2 X 6 for the top cross piece instead of a 2 X 4. The extra 2 inches for the top cross piece would bring your work project back up to the proper working height. Yes, it's a trade-off but not as expensive in the long run.
i learned a lot from you. that's actually helpful to many people that do not have fancy carpenter tools. knowing the old and manual ways are really awesome and nice stuffs
Love the methods you use as well as the humor. Fun to watch
Multi angle bevels hurt like long division. You made it simple. Brilliantly done, even with 15:15, showing your mistakes is a great educational illustration. Not to mention a great moral boost to hobbyist screwballs like most of us are.
Most appreciated Jim, I always look forward to your comments!
OK Cody, you said if you got over 10k likes on the video you'd do one on the strength test of the mockups. It's time to pay the piper. :) In all seriousness though, those are great, strong and simple. Thanks for the video.
Over 25k now…
31K now. Maybe when it hits 40K, Cody will build us all our own horses !?
@@kkrankie h bi hu huh and
I love all your videos and have been looking for a damn good, clever sawhorse design so I'll buy the plans once I've got some material to work with :)
I like both the detailed video and your personality that is flowing from the video.
I had to pause 1:46 in the video to comment this. The style of your video was already engaging and comedic. I'm an instant fan!
that's an interesting way to tie a bowline. Where'd you learn to tie it that way? It definitely isn't the boy scout way, and it also isn't the way I've learned in sailing. It's just as good at measuring the loop size as the method I use, and it's about as fast too, but I've never seen that method before.
Yup , I have always used the , " Rabbit goes in the hole , around the tree, and back out of the hole " method myself . That's a bowline ...right?
@@miketyler2513 That's the boyscout method. It's a bit slower than the way most sailors do it, and it makes it a little harder to measure the size of the loop. If you need to tie it quickly and precisely, you can actually form the "hole" with the working end already through it by crossing the line over itself, then twisting the working end around the standing part. That's the way I normally do it.
So can I just set my angles once with a compound mitre saw (sitting on the ground since I don't have sawhorses), then grab a piece of 2x4 and just keep chopping off 32" lenths for legs? Or do I have to reverse my angles for the "inner" and "outer" sets of legs?
Reverse the angles for 2. 2 legs with the same angles will work on opposite corners.
Honesty! You earned my subscription.
I like videos that challenge me and this one certainly will. I am not an expert craftsman of any sort and, while these cuts seem simple enough, the angles and measurements will be fun to try. Measure 20 times and cut once... unless you mess up and have to get new 2x4s because,,,, you know. Anyhow, thanks for putting this out on your channel and I'll be looking forward to new videos and looking through previously posted videos for more ideas. Cheers.
Could you put the notches the other way so that the top "cross member" gets pinched in place, eliminating the need for the rope at the bottom?
I was thinking the same but I don't know if it is possible.
Just as you used the already cut leg as a sort-of-template, you can clamp on scrap pieces at the beginning, which meets the line of the section you wish to cut off. Might only work for the slot at the top.
Would work very well, cool call!