They have $28k and they haven’t paid back the debt to their parents which is $3300. I would be upset if I were the parent. And as a bystander, it just makes me mad.
Yeah I would pay that too. But I would go to 1000 for consumer debt. It’s not gonna kill u if it takes longer. I would build 3 months emergency fund and keeep 1 credit card, then pay the rest off not with snowball but highest interest rate first. Debt doesn’t freak me out though unless it’s IRS. Bankruptcy is not that hard if u truly go broke. I know someone who did it 3x and he got more credit easy after 2 years for mortgage or car, whatever. If you don’t have kids debt would be one of the last things I would worry about
Yep, I never drop below $10k savings. That's enough to cover the car dying, HVAC going out, a medical emergency deductible, or me losing my job. Anything less than that is danger zone. I'm all for paying off debt, but you gotta protect yourself too. I'd just pay as much as possible on debt with every dollar above $10k every month.
@@sprint7412 It is true but you do whatever plan you feel comfortable with. Ramsey's baby steps & Money Guy's FOO have lots of overlapping. I kind of have a hybrid plan using both guides. Is my plan optimized? No. Am I comfortable with my plan, yes. Like the other one said, I am comfortable with having a saving enough to cover my deductible. just in case...
They can pay off all the little debts and just have student loan left and $5k or so in savings and be just right for their comfort level, then just take all the money you were paying on those debts and put them towards the student loans.
To John Delony's point about being debt free and how much peace that brings is truly correct! We became fully debt free in 2006.. good thing, too.. because we would have gone bankrupt in the 8 years that followed.. between jobs that paid below poverty level, and the (un) "affordable care act" made mincemeat of our savings. I shudder to think if we had any debt at alll.. even a low interest rate mortgage (we owned outright) on our home would have put us into debt! I can't say this enough.. avoid anything that represents both an OPTIONAL and RECURRING monthly payment.. in other words, is not necessary to staying alive. Don't fall for those buy now pay later, or, my favorite ax to grind: subscription fees. The only subscription fee we have is for antivirus/malware. Those continuing OPTIONAL monthly costs start to nibble at your budget. and all of a sudden.. you find yourself short cash at the worst time.. because you used up what you could have put into savings - instead you're being forced to pay for unnecessary items. Waste!
Draining their savings with a newborn down to 1k is ridiculous. They should definitely use some of the savings to knock out some of their obligations - specifically to the family debt - but too many things in their current situation could set them right back in to debt land with only 1k in the bank. This one is a miss.
AGREED. This is hwy this show annoys me. they're so on script to their snowball and 1k emergency fund they dont apply context to ANYTHING. 1k with a new born is a hell no. Pay off the little debt but keep atleast 10k. 1K is useless money in 2024
@@Tunechi65Right. I don't understand why they tell every person to only have 1k saved when they are on baby step 2. Like how can they get the money when property tax is due and it's 3k plus their other monthly expenses?
Bs 2 here with $4k student loans left, it does not make financial sense due to higher ror investing but the freedom gained from getting out of debt is so worth it
She, after having grown up really poor (as she said), probably sees the savings they have as a safety net. In other words, it makes her feel a lot safer having that money in the bank. I'm not saying that they shouldn't use it to pay off debt, but just sort of seeing where she's coming from with all of that since her background was poverty (she said). I had a friend before she passed away, who grew up really poor and as an adult she had issues with food insecurity, since when she was growing up sometimes they didn't have food at times. So it makes sense if we try to see it from their point of view instead of our own.
No way I would obliterate my savings down to $1000, regardless of how much I owed. The snow ball method is a powerful tool, but that number is way out dated. We just had a $3600 car repair. Our heat pump is over 15 years old. That will be $7000. Having a sizeable emergency fund allows me to sleep better than killing debt so quickly, otherwise, the back up plan for unforeseen expenses is a credit card or a bank loan. Still lots of great advice here. Thanks for sharing.
Well how old is your car and what part(s) did you have fixed or replaced? The house expenses don’t exist if you are not buying ahead of time, so that is a non factor for this conversation using this couple or renters as context. I had my car parked for four months, I had to spend $700 to get many things up and running, two weeks later I can replenish to $1000 again, if it was up to $2000 or $3000 it would take me longer and with factor time being longer, then it increase the possibilities of additional expenses then reduces my funds in the emergency savings, so the psychological battle of not going back to the threshold is tougher than actually having $900 over $1000 but $1100 under $2000. And again, there is not many things for renters that can happen where you will spend $500 before you can replenish it back to $1000, we could use worst case scenarios all day but even in business and manufacturing you don’t try to solve and prevent to all it’s extent, except car, planes etc etc. Also remember the emergency fund is different than the fully funded emergency fund, and that one is different than the sink fund for future repairs or maintenance that we know will be needed.
excellent ,,,, point”””” Cash is king,,, why ,,, put yourself between the eight ball ,,,with very little bit of money in the bank,,, , “” SHIT”” happens,,, just take your time paying the bills,, he only makes $55k year,,, these 2 people Don’t live in the real world,,, it’s easy to giving advice ,,, speaking into a microphone with in a studio,,,
Here’s a novel idea. You can do whatever you want when it comes to the baby steps. It’s their program and their way, but you’re an adult, and you can make your own decisions. All this nonsense about people saying $1000 is not enough… Then do it the way you want. It doesn’t change the fact that his plan works and it is the best way to getting out of debt.
She could work from home as either an employee for a company or starting her own business, depending on her skill set. I started a home day care when our son was a toddler so I could stay home and still earn money. When he was starting middle school, I dropped the day care and started a transcription business that I am still running 25+ years later.
@sprint7412 more relaxed!? 😂💀 That's a good joke I did notice they said after I commented and was like, ooh that's how they did. There is no way regulations are more relaxed. Do you know how governments work??
@@adoe2305What in the world are you talking about? Home day care? Yes, rules and regs, and I followed every one of them. Paid taxes. Easy. I would never do anything that wasn't legal...not my style. Did this business from about 1991 to 1996-97. If I had to pay anything for license, it wasn't much, I know that. And yes, it was easier to do back then that it is now. The transcription business? Again, easy. Have a license to do business in the county I live in, pay quarterly taxes, and that's it. One hundred percent legal, and I wouldn't do it any other way. And for where I live and the amount I make, I pay NOTHING for my business license. The whole point being, people can run legal, income-producing, fun, and rewarding businesses from home.
I love the concept of being debt-free. But using 27K of savings to pay off debts and leaving 1K with a baby that is scary maybe more irresponsible than paying off that debt now!
Depends on how much they make. Also, if they're debt free they'll be able to acquire new debt. If something happens with them already being in debt, they'll use the savings and the other debt will maybe go into collection/ accrue penal interest. By definition, debt accrues higher interest than savings.
Totally agree to knock out those small debts, especially to the in-laws. From there, if you still find it hard to let the rest of your "savings" go....try this: Stack those would-be payments in another account. When you have the amount to pay off the next debt, then write one check to do so. This allows you a little more of a "feeling" buffer and still keep up with baby-step two. Yes, this is adjusting the baby-step plan, just enough to account for that human element while allowing to keep in the pathway of progress. The risk here is what they are saying, you will not have the same urgency to get the extra jobs and do this within one or two years; the other risk is that you stay paralyzed and stay in your current situation. Consider and pray. Make a decision together that you and your husband are both comfortable with. I do wish you and your family all the best!
@@terricox3559 - excellent! We are eternally grateful for Dave and his ministry. With this aspect of the emergency fund, My wife and I have found a bit more success with this adjustment as well. Once we got past knocking out the little debts, we couldn't seem to peacefully go forward. This hybrid approach allowed us to keep going! As long as one is disciplined to stick to the plan -- the progress with the baby steps is preserved with a little more peace of mind. We also have a big family, five kids, so for us, $1,000 was not realistic and we constantly were restarting the baby steps with every "emergency". This method also allowed us enough of a buffer to be able to absorb those crisis moments without having to restart the plan again and again.
I wish they would honestly just admit the $1000 is absurd in this day and age. 30 years ago when a grand was a decent chunk and a hospital bill wasn’t absurdly expensive, it was fine. They have a newborn. I keep 5k in the bank and use the rest towards debt.
$5k is too much because it takes too long to build. A couple of grand would be fine, and they'll be able to build that fund up quickly when out of debt.
Worth the risk to take a little longer To pay off debt. It won’t kill you. Being broke in an emergency could make you homeless. Hmm…..not a hard call for me. Plus I’m not interested in hustle Culture to pay off 1 year earlier. As long as u get out of debt is what matters. 1000 emergency fund, ask Dave if he is going to personally bail u out!!
I had $16000 in debt 11 months and now I have no debt and $7000 in the bank from starting the baby steps. Proof is in the results. I’ll have a fully paid up emergency fund in 6 months then onwards and upwards.
@@jimmymcgill6778 If you knew anything about this program you would know that the $1000 emergency fund is only temporary until baby step 3 when the emergency fund becomes 3-6 months of living expenses.
I have a baby and we have a $5k buffer in the checking account on top of the $2k "emergency fund." But we only owe $2800 and I'm so tempted just to dump it but also...we have three little kids and I'd rather have the security of cash than the security of no debt. (Luckily it'll still be a quick payoff after a few more paychecks)
I felt the same way she does, until I paid off 30k in student loans before interests could get me. I had 3k left. Already back to 10k. Also, people think they live on a budget but then they get groceries at Stop and Shop.. budgetting is one thing, spending wisely another.
If the woman can't quite get on board with paying off both cars for right now. You don't have To Do all or nothing of the Dave Ramsey program. DONT SPEND ALL OF YOUR SAVINGS
Would you rather be 80k in debt and have 28k cash,,, or have 52k in debt and have. 1k in cash,,, which of the 2 be better ,,, if tomorrow you lose your job,,,
@@debragiovine9797- for me this depends on the type of debt we are talking about. If I lose my job tomorrow, I don't owe anybody because I am debt free. However, just last year I owed and if I lost my job I still would have been fine as long as my debt was not in things I needed to get a new job like anything pertaining to my transportation, housing, phone.m and laptop to apply for jobs. Basic needs. Basically, if it's student loan debt then that's fine to keep because there are no immediate consequences if you lose your job. Cars though, I want that paid off as quickly as possible for example because if I lose my job then I can use my car to interview for a new job etc without the threat of repossession. It depends on what the debt is for. That's how I looked at it and I did it in that order until I was debt free.
Do NOT go down to 1000, DO NOT DO IT. stupidest thing you could do when you have children. keep a minimum of 1 month while you are paying debt. then build up the 6 months.
$1000 is enough for some people, depending on their circumstances. Maybe those who presently live with parents, rent a furnished place, or have no car, or need for one.Just use your own judgement on how much your "starter" emergency fund needs to be, and then move on to baby step 2. Dave doesn't need to know. There are things Dave has said, in other videos, that indicate he is flexible anyway, esp when a baby is in the equation. Though he does point out that its deliberately a low amount, to keep you intense on getting out of debt. Just enough for smaller repairs to the car, or replace a small household appliance. And step 3, as soon as you are out of debt, is to build a much more realistic emergency fund. My same suggestion applies there too. Just decide what level is right for you. The baby steps are guidelines, not laws. Dave doesn't need to know that you pushed one of his boundaries a little !!
I haven’t come across with husband or wife in waiting with children of 5 on how to save… I hear mostly individuals without children or with 1 or 2 children
I've had several $1000 emergencies. Most of them are from being hospitalized because of chronic medical issues. That's even after insurance pays their part. I go about once every one to two years.
The $1,000 is not the emergency fund. It's just $1,000 for emergencies while you're paying all your debts off. The real emergency fund comes in later baby steps which requires three to six months of expenses which is a true emergency fund
@@BigJohnM it just seems very risky to only have $1000 saved when they have a new born. They already have a lot saved so why is it bad if they keep 5k to 10k as a starter emergency fund?
I don't think they should use up all that money right away. I would pay mom and the credit cards first. The medical bill they can set up payments since hospitals normally don't charge interest as long as you are paying something. I don't know what their monthly expenses are, but they need to figure that out and keep enough in savings to cover the bills for one month. Not sure if they should focus on paying the cars or the student loan. It would be easier to pay off the cars and would help free up income. Student loan will take awhile so they need an easy target to keep them motivated. But interest could be higher for the student loan and they could save hundreds of dollars if they focus paying extra to the student loan. The wife should look into earning something. I know she has to watch the baby but there are ways around that like working part time when her husband or another trusted family memebr can watch the baby. If she can work something out that extra income can be just for paying off debt.
Sure I'd pay off the family loan first, but different life situations means different priorities. Having debt would be far less stressful to me in the callers situation than not having a large savings. This sounds like another call where the Ramsay team uses mental gymnastics to push their one size fits all philosophy rather than considering the specifics of an individual situation. But when you make your money with your brand of preaching I guess thats what you gotta do....
I wouldn’t bring my savings down to $1000 if living on one income. I’d do step 3 first then start step 2. I’d follow the steps as they are if a two income home. I think they need to tweak the plan if mom stays home.
I just paid $8,000 on a HVAC unit. One day it was working, next day it was not. If I only had $1,000 in an emergency fund, what would I do? Need heat in the house or Momma isn't going to be happy. When Momma ain't happy, nobody is happy. Taking your emergency fund down to $1,000 when you are not in dire financial straits is crazy. What I would do: 1. Pay the $3k to mom-in-law. MIL might surprise you and say "That's okay honey. Just take that check and put it in the baby's college fund." 2. Pay off the $2k credit card debt. 3. Set the medical bill up on a reasonable amortization schedule - let's say 6 months. Medical debt usually does not charge interest or finance charge. 4. Make normal payments on the cars depending on the interest rate. If high interest rate, pay it off. 5. Throw any extra income to the student loans. That is the albatross around their neck.
WHY do you even listen to Dave's program? Ok, ok I don't agree with everything Dave says and I agree that $1K is too low of an emergency fund BUT your #4 is the polar opposite of Dave's program that IS BEHAVIORAL BASED not simply financial based on interest rates, etc So again I ask, WHY do you listen?
@GAFB1122 must of us listen because it's entertaining to listen to some people's problems but I don't even follow Dave's plan. My plan is better and it works. Again I'm here for Entertainment
@@GAFB1122 Sorta like watching two trains speeding toward each other, you know what is going to happen but can't turn away. Sometimes the train wreck is the caller, sometimes the train wreck is the advice Ramsey gives.
The only debt a person should carry is a mortgage, and it should be a 30 year. I know it would be fine to not have a mortgage, but if you get your career to a successful point where each monthly mortgage payment is only 5% or less of your monthly income, thats just as good as not having a payment. So, in other words, your household income is about 25,000 a month, and your mortgage is about 1300 a month. Thats nothing! So Dave would say that that is a big no no. But I guarantee that even people who make that much money, and dont have a mortgage, they are paying at least 1300 a month between car insurance, cable plans, cell phones plans, and gym memberships. I dont waste my money on any of that stuff, so i would rather put it towards a mortgage. The ROI is better on a mortgage than all that fluff of monthly payments people have.
You can tell Jade is a very progressive woman so the idea of a female not working while she can accept it she would much rather see women working too lmao
Paying off student loans with the debt snowball method is a bad idea. 1. Making the minimum payment on a student loan while paying off other loans can cause the student loan balance to increase. 2. Divorcing a few years later can very easily leave one spouse with their student loan paid off and the other with a higher student loan balance than they started with.
Why would the balance increase? Dave's program says minimum payments, but I have never heard it said that you don't cover interest. If you make the minimum payment to include interest so the balance does not increase, then what's the problem? But hey, if you can point me to where Dave's program says that it's ok for a student loan balance to increase because of minimum payments, please do so. I'd be very interested in seeing that.
I would never reduce to $1,000 in an emergency fund .That amount was relevant a decade ago.😢.I need cash to live a frugal existence..garage sale savings..hired help for yard work..snow removal at 73 yrs old.
They just moved to the area, had a baby and I'm assuming he got a new job. Emptying the account would be the most unsound move they could make. Pay off MIL, the credit card and the deductible and keep paying the rest over time.
AGREED. This is hwy this show annoys me. they're so on script to their snowball and 1k emergency fund they dont apply context to ANYTHING. 1k with a new born is a hell no. Pay off the little debt but keep atleast 10k. 1K is useless money in 2024
I like how she said his debt like she doesn’t wanna pay ot off like she’s even working lol you ain’t paying off nothing ur husband will pay off everything including ur debt which is dumb
To all of those who complain about the $1,000 first baby step, RAMSEY IS RIGHT. She doesn't have savings, that money belongs to the people they owe. Can you imagine how much interest they are paying every month? If they pay off just a portion of their debt, they can use that money to pay off the other debts and then put a month's worth of expenses away. It's like the people who keep their mortgage so that they can pay the bank rather than the government. Where is the savings in that? I'm sure that if they have an immediate d, that $1,000 will not cover, one of those lovely people who loaned them money before will be happy to loan them some more.
I have always been the exact same philosophy. The probability of an emergency happening can be slim but being charged the interest on the debt is definite. It's not like the person wouldn't be able to reuse the debt in the chance that some emergency came up and didn't have the available funds. To me, once someone has struggled and gotten out of debt from credit cards, then they have realized how dangerous of a tool they can be and will be more control over frivolous spending and be able to have it for "emergency use"
You will only have a 1,000 for a short time. With no debt you will be able to rebuild savings very fast. One thing you will have to do for this to work is commit to not taking any debt any time in the future. The only possible exception is a morgue. No debt and room in you budget give you so much peace
With how thought the labor market is and how things continue to go up in price. I doubt almost anyone is actually doing the $1000 emergency fund. I do at least $2500 in savings and have had more than one emergency come up that was over $1000, they are to prideful to ever admit they are wrong.
You know on the surface I would agree with all the comments saying that spending almost all savings on debt is not a great idea. But then again, we are not the expert's here, who am I or most people commenting to give financial advice?
Jade that was the clearest concise explanation of debt vs savings that I've heard on this channel! That question comes up in practically every call and some of the other "personalities" including Dave, don't make it very clear for the average person just starting to manage their money
Emptying out your account with a newborn is a wildly stupid decision. Imagine something happens to the baby or your job and you need that cash to pay for it…I’d rather hold onto a healthy amount in savings and pay off debt fast (but not immediately). Some of Dave’s advice will ruin people
I'm in agreement with some folks on here, Dave's first baby step should be increased to $2,000 to $2,500. Dave's $1,000 may have covered alot 10 to 15 years ago but it's pittance now. $2k +/- is more reasonable for 2024!
I would say keep 1 month in the bank minimum, especially if you have kids. I know that could be hard for some and so thy may not be able to get there right away,but these people already have it, so i would NEVER tell them to go under 1 month, that's insane.
He came up with the $1000 about 30 years ago. It doesn't make any sense that the same $1000 is the magic number in both 1994 and 2024, and the same $1000 for a single person living rent free with mom and the same $1000 for a family of 6 with a $3000/month mortgage.
AGREED. This is hwy this show annoys me. they're so on script to their snowball and 1k emergency fund they dont apply context to ANYTHING. 1k with a new born is a hell no. Pay off the little debt but keep atleast 10k. 1K is useless money in 2024
@@JosiahK555agree. even 1 month is scary due to the fact that if you lose your job, it could take atleast a month to get a new job AND get first paycheck. few weeks to get a job, few more weeks to get that first paycheck. 1k is and always has been a terrible advice
She already stated that “we have the debt because we’re married” yet John goes on a rant about vocab…. Jesus Christ…. Does he ever offer any financial advice?
And she used singular on the others and point them to the husband no? We have the debt but he incurred x, and y, I only incurred z. That is the problem, seeing it like that, the longer it takes to pay or harder it becomes to bring it down, using the same vocabulary for extended period just increases the chances of resentment towards the other.
If she's that concerned, she can pay off all the minor debts. Then keep the left over 5-6k as an emergency funding work to pay Of the student loan over a year or two.
8:50 glad Jade jumped in there, so we didn’t just get the usual “husband works himself into the ground doing 3 jobs whilst momma stays at home all day with 1 baby”
I know its absolutely ridiculous. I'm sorry but a $55,000 income, a wife, and a baby its to much for one person. The husband should look for a better paying jib but she should also be working to bring income in- the next issue will be he is not present enough for family time.
If she got a simple full time job making $20/hr, she could easily bring in an extra $1500/month even after paying $1200/month in daycare expenses. So it’s worth it for her to go back to work until they are on baby steps 4,5,6.
@@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 if they lived in California. The governor passed a minimum wage of $20 an hour for fastfood workers. Prices there are getting out of hand though so I would bet daycare would cost much more as well.
Don't start a family's until you're on at least baby step 4 or higher. I don't know why it's such a hard concept. Kids are not more important than YOUR own future. You literally came first so you should come first now. If you were struggling before kids why triple down and have more kids. No need to make someone else life worse because you couldn't wait to get your stuff together. That's just asisine and selfish.
HE owes... nah, she said it with her chest. She borrowed money from HIS mother at 0% like it's a great deal. You're married to her son... had a lot to do with the offer. 😂😂 That being said, $50K in student loans and making $55K a year seems a little low. Working at a zoo??? Become a teacher for the benefits and pension amd/or get a second job. You married her. She had the kid. I heard the blessing crying in the background. Get to work so she can be less stressed at home and have everything she needs and more.
" this couple has 80,000 in debt ,,,have 28k cash""" if you subtract 80from28 that equals to 53k"" THEY still have 53k in Debts... YOU are NOT going to sleep with 1000.00 in the Bank... AND ONLY making 55k income with a baby ..."" """SHIT HAPPENS"" John Delony and Jade have NO idea about"" LIFE""" ON what couple goes through very day... on a 55k income...""
The mother wants to sit home and play mommie to her "non essential child," the husband isn't even working in the field he went to college for and paying the debt for. Your married one year and already have a child. She needs a 40 hrs week job debt is all on his shoulders
You've got to both be out of debt AND have a large emergency fund to be successful. If you have a large emergency fund with debt you're still a failure.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508What are you talking about? A 1000 dollars is not enough to cover emergencies. There's no conversation to be had about being successful or a failure. The issue is that 1000 dollars is not enough for an emergency fund.
This is not a full emergency fund, it is a starter emergency fund. You must be new to Ramsey. Or just generally confused about everything, like 99% of Americans.@@Kaiser_Raukov
I almost can't watch it either. Telling someone to drain their bank account down to 1000k with a newborn baby is not only dumb, but incredibly irresponsible. They've lost touch with reality. It's not 1985 anymore, get it together, shit is real out here.
Went to a college graduation a few years back. ALL the Magna Cum Laudes were "early childhood education". Sounds a lot like basket weaving. Not worth $55,000.
Can't watch vids with Delaney anymore his tone is insulting and belittling. Coming from a therapist that's on the the scary side when it comes to money. Don't think his angle will help.
@@jimmymcgill6778 i not gonna invest my time and money into someone elses kid now if the dad died in a war or a car crash but no way im dealing with that drama if he still around plus when she leaves you lose 2 people a kid that loses 2 daddys
Nothing against Jade but why did John say Jade is the expert? She’s telling people what Dave preaches. Repeating someone else’s plan doesn’t make you an expert. Just makes you a good employee. But I get it here. They just keeping people out of debt that can’t budget and don’t make a lot of money.
AGREED. This is hwy this show annoys me. they're so on script to their snowball and 1k emergency fund they dont apply context to ANYTHING. 1k with a new born is a hell no. Pay off the little debt but keep atleast 10k. 1K is useless money in 2024
$1,000 a year in an emergency fund with an infant? Sounds like disaster. If you go that lean get an emergency credit card. Also vote in Democrats that support universal health care like Canada and Europe. It’s insane that half of all Dave’s callers are saddled with medical debt but are happy to vote against their own interests.
Have you ever seen an educational program at a zoo? You seem to be assuming he’s not using his degree at all. I highly doubt they pay 55k/year for the guy that shovels elephant poop all day. So, there’s at least some chance his education is being utilized.
There’s nothing wrong with working at a zoo. They have programs for kids and he doesn’t have to be in a classroom all day. I think this is a good choice for his degree.
@tonytoni1150 You'd have to be more familiar with Justincase's comments. From what I can surmise, the person is a guy and must have gotten burned by a female because the comments have a theme, and that theme is; man good, woman bad!! There is another on here who is similar. djpuplex Check out that person's comments. It's like they share one brain, lol.
@@GAFB1122 It was obviiously way over your head as usual. If the guy was an irresponsible bum and blew money on a not needed toy truck I don't believe it's THEIR debt problem.
AGREED. This is hwy this show annoys me. they're so on script to their snowball and 1k emergency fund they dont apply context to ANYTHING. 1k with a new born is a hell no. Pay off the little debt but keep atleast 10k. 1K is useless money in 2024
They have $28k and they haven’t paid back the debt to their parents which is $3300. I would be upset if I were the parent. And as a bystander, it just makes me mad.
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I agree, a Personal loan and you have the money.
Yeah I would pay that too. But I would go to 1000 for consumer debt. It’s not gonna kill u if it takes longer. I would build 3 months emergency fund and keeep 1 credit card, then pay the rest off not with snowball but highest interest rate first. Debt doesn’t freak me out though unless it’s IRS. Bankruptcy is not that hard if u truly go broke. I know someone who did it 3x and he got more credit easy after 2 years for mortgage or car, whatever. If you don’t have kids debt would be one of the last things I would worry about
It's like they are thieves
Who the hell are these people that are responsible enough to save $28k, but dumb enough to borrow from their inlaws?
She said “our debt”, and then she said “my child”…. What a thouughttttieeeee
@@scubadivingadventures1, I also thought that was weird
They owe $3.3k and can pay it off ASAP. Pay it and stop delaying or there will be forever resentment.
I would pay off the cars, medical bill, and the MIL. Keep the difference in savings and snowball like crazy.
Yep, I never drop below $10k savings. That's enough to cover the car dying, HVAC going out, a medical emergency deductible, or me losing my job.
Anything less than that is danger zone. I'm all for paying off debt, but you gotta protect yourself too. I'd just pay as much as possible on debt with every dollar above $10k every month.
Hospital bills normally don't have interest, so it would be better to set up a payment plan with them.
@@sprint7412 It is true but you do whatever plan you feel comfortable with. Ramsey's baby steps & Money Guy's FOO have lots of overlapping. I kind of have a hybrid plan using both guides.
Is my plan optimized? No. Am I comfortable with my plan, yes.
Like the other one said, I am comfortable with having a saving enough to cover my deductible. just in case...
Bro you owe a family member 3k and have a 28k pile and wont pay them? Thats super annoying and this point should have been further emphasized
They can pay off all the little debts and just have student loan left and $5k or so in savings and be just right for their comfort level, then just take all the money you were paying on those debts and put them towards the student loans.
To John Delony's point about being debt free and how much peace that brings is truly correct! We became fully debt free in 2006.. good thing, too.. because we would have gone bankrupt in the 8 years that followed.. between jobs that paid below poverty level, and the (un) "affordable care act" made mincemeat of our savings. I shudder to think if we had any debt at alll.. even a low interest rate mortgage (we owned outright) on our home would have put us into debt! I can't say this enough.. avoid anything that represents both an OPTIONAL and RECURRING monthly payment.. in other words, is not necessary to staying alive. Don't fall for those buy now pay later, or, my favorite ax to grind: subscription fees. The only subscription fee we have is for antivirus/malware. Those continuing OPTIONAL monthly costs start to nibble at your budget. and all of a sudden.. you find yourself short cash at the worst time.. because you used up what you could have put into savings - instead you're being forced to pay for unnecessary items. Waste!
Draining their savings with a newborn down to 1k is ridiculous. They should definitely use some of the savings to knock out some of their obligations - specifically to the family debt - but too many things in their current situation could set them right back in to debt land with only 1k in the bank.
This one is a miss.
Having a newborn is a miss.
AGREED. This is hwy this show annoys me. they're so on script to their snowball and 1k emergency fund they dont apply context to ANYTHING. 1k with a new born is a hell no. Pay off the little debt but keep atleast 10k. 1K is useless money in 2024
@@Tunechi65Right. I don't understand why they tell every person to only have 1k saved when they are on baby step 2. Like how can they get the money when property tax is due and it's 3k plus their other monthly expenses?
@@sprint7412those should be in your budget. Those are not emergencies
@@charlafrederick1245 it turns into an emergency if you don't have the money to pay taxs and it's not all way easy to know how much it will be l.
Bs 2 here with $4k student loans left, it does not make financial sense due to higher ror investing but the freedom gained from getting out of debt is so worth it
Scared to pay off debt with almost $30k in the bank..
She, after having grown up really poor (as she said), probably sees the savings they have as a safety net. In other words, it makes her feel a lot safer having that money in the bank. I'm not saying that they shouldn't use it to pay off debt, but just sort of seeing where she's coming from with all of that since her background was poverty (she said). I had a friend before she passed away, who grew up really poor and as an adult she had issues with food insecurity, since when she was growing up sometimes they didn't have food at times. So it makes sense if we try to see it from their point of view instead of our own.
No way I would obliterate my savings down to $1000, regardless of how much I owed. The snow ball method is a powerful tool, but that number is way out dated. We just had a $3600 car repair. Our heat pump is over 15 years old. That will be $7000. Having a sizeable emergency fund allows me to sleep better than killing debt so quickly, otherwise, the back up plan for unforeseen expenses is a credit card or a bank loan. Still lots of great advice here. Thanks for sharing.
Inflation doesn't exist in Ramsey World.
Well how old is your car and what part(s) did you have fixed or replaced? The house expenses don’t exist if you are not buying ahead of time, so that is a non factor for this conversation using this couple or renters as context. I had my car parked for four months, I had to spend $700 to get many things up and running, two weeks later I can replenish to $1000 again, if it was up to $2000 or $3000 it would take me longer and with factor time being longer, then it increase the possibilities of additional expenses then reduces my funds in the emergency savings, so the psychological battle of not going back to the threshold is tougher than actually having $900 over $1000 but $1100 under $2000. And again, there is not many things for renters that can happen where you will spend $500 before you can replenish it back to $1000, we could use worst case scenarios all day but even in business and manufacturing you don’t try to solve and prevent to all it’s extent, except car, planes etc etc. Also remember the emergency fund is different than the fully funded emergency fund, and that one is different than the sink fund for future repairs or maintenance that we know will be needed.
excellent ,,,, point”””” Cash is king,,, why ,,, put yourself between the eight ball ,,,with very little bit of money in the bank,,, , “” SHIT”” happens,,, just take your time paying the bills,, he only makes $55k year,,, these 2 people Don’t live in the real world,,, it’s easy to giving advice ,,, speaking into a microphone with in a studio,,,
exactly i would keep 1 month minimum especially with kids.
I would hyperventilate if I only had 1k saved. I have 5k saved as my EF and I did the debt snowball after I had it
Here’s a novel idea. You can do whatever you want when it comes to the baby steps. It’s their program and their way, but you’re an adult, and you can make your own decisions. All this nonsense about people saying $1000 is not enough… Then do it the way you want. It doesn’t change the fact that his plan works and it is the best way to getting out of debt.
Boy I needed to hear this today. I don’t have debt but I struggle with worry even though I’m in a good place.
She could work from home as either an employee for a company or starting her own business, depending on her skill set. I started a home day care when our son was a toddler so I could stay home and still earn money. When he was starting middle school, I dropped the day care and started a transcription business that I am still running 25+ years later.
How many government hoops and licenses did you have to pay for that?
Or did you do under the table and pray to God a kid didn't break an arm?
@@adoe2305 the commenter said she did this over 25 years ago. Laws and regulations were probably more relaxed back then.
@sprint7412 more relaxed!? 😂💀 That's a good joke
I did notice they said after I commented and was like, ooh that's how they did. There is no way regulations are more relaxed. Do you know how governments work??
@@adoe2305 maybe relaxed was the wrong word to describe it, more like they didn't exist.
@@adoe2305What in the world are you talking about? Home day care? Yes, rules and regs, and I followed every one of them. Paid taxes. Easy. I would never do anything that wasn't legal...not my style. Did this business from about 1991 to 1996-97. If I had to pay anything for license, it wasn't much, I know that. And yes, it was easier to do back then that it is now.
The transcription business? Again, easy. Have a license to do business in the county I live in, pay quarterly taxes, and that's it. One hundred percent legal, and I wouldn't do it any other way. And for where I live and the amount I make, I pay NOTHING for my business license.
The whole point being, people can run legal, income-producing, fun, and rewarding businesses from home.
I love the concept of being debt-free. But using 27K of savings to pay off debts and leaving 1K with a baby that is scary maybe more irresponsible than paying off that debt now!
Depends on how much they make. Also, if they're debt free they'll be able to acquire new debt. If something happens with them already being in debt, they'll use the savings and the other debt will maybe go into collection/ accrue penal interest.
By definition, debt accrues higher interest than savings.
Totally agree to knock out those small debts, especially to the in-laws. From there, if you still find it hard to let the rest of your "savings" go....try this: Stack those would-be payments in another account. When you have the amount to pay off the next debt, then write one check to do so. This allows you a little more of a "feeling" buffer and still keep up with baby-step two. Yes, this is adjusting the baby-step plan, just enough to account for that human element while allowing to keep in the pathway of progress.
The risk here is what they are saying, you will not have the same urgency to get the extra jobs and do this within one or two years; the other risk is that you stay paralyzed and stay in your current situation.
Consider and pray. Make a decision together that you and your husband are both comfortable with. I do wish you and your family all the best!
This is what I do! It works well for us, a hybrid approach that is the best of both worlds. X
@@terricox3559 - excellent! We are eternally grateful for Dave and his ministry. With this aspect of the emergency fund, My wife and I have found a bit more success with this adjustment as well. Once we got past knocking out the little debts, we couldn't seem to peacefully go forward. This hybrid approach allowed us to keep going! As long as one is disciplined to stick to the plan -- the progress with the baby steps is preserved with a little more peace of mind. We also have a big family, five kids, so for us, $1,000 was not realistic and we constantly were restarting the baby steps with every "emergency". This method also allowed us enough of a buffer to be able to absorb those crisis moments without having to restart the plan again and again.
Excellent!
I just paid 8k for a sewer repair in my home and 1k is not enough
They never said 1k is enough
I wish they would honestly just admit the $1000 is absurd in this day and age. 30 years ago when a grand was a decent chunk and a hospital bill wasn’t absurdly expensive, it was fine.
They have a newborn. I keep 5k in the bank and use the rest towards debt.
I totally agree with you, they need to hold the 1K and at least 1 months living expenses.
What’s your response to the people who take several months to save that $5K, and inevitably give up along the way because they’re not seeing progress?
1000 emergency fund. None of you MF can stand up to Dave and tell him that is f stupid. Pisses me off! Don’t do it you are correct caller
$5k is too much because it takes too long to build. A couple of grand would be fine, and they'll be able to build that fund up quickly when out of debt.
Worth the risk to take a little longer
To pay off debt. It won’t kill you. Being broke in an emergency could make you homeless. Hmm…..not a hard call for me. Plus I’m not interested in hustle
Culture to pay off 1 year earlier. As long as u get out of debt is what matters. 1000 emergency fund, ask Dave if he is going to personally bail u out!!
I understand your point Miss Jade.
And if you lose you job with only 1k, it will be more stressful.
You can always pause debt's until you get a job.
I had $16000 in debt 11 months and now I have no debt and $7000 in the bank from starting the baby steps. Proof is in the results. I’ll have a fully paid up emergency fund in 6 months then onwards and upwards.
@@iDrive123 SO what.
@@jimmymcgill6778 So the baby steps work, nobody needs debt.
@@jimmymcgill6778 If you knew anything about this program you would know that the $1000 emergency fund is only temporary until baby step 3 when the emergency fund becomes 3-6 months of living expenses.
@@iDrive123but were you in the exact situation this couple is In ? Context matters when coming up with a financial plan and not one plan fits all.
I couldn’t go down to only $1000 no way.. lowest I’ll do is $5000
I have a baby and we have a $5k buffer in the checking account on top of the $2k "emergency fund." But we only owe $2800 and I'm so tempted just to dump it but also...we have three little kids and I'd rather have the security of cash than the security of no debt. (Luckily it'll still be a quick payoff after a few more paychecks)
I felt the same way she does, until I paid off 30k in student loans before interests could get me. I had 3k left. Already back to 10k. Also, people think they live on a budget but then they get groceries at Stop and Shop.. budgetting is one thing, spending wisely another.
If the woman can't quite get on board with paying off both cars for right now. You don't have To Do all or nothing of the Dave Ramsey program. DONT SPEND ALL OF YOUR SAVINGS
How come being $70k in debt doesn’t scare her as much temporarily having $1k in savings
Debt is normal these days. Maddening.
Would you rather be 80k in debt and have 28k cash,,, or have 52k in debt and have. 1k in cash,,, which of the 2 be better ,,, if tomorrow you lose your job,,,
@@debragiovine9797I would reither have 80k debt 28k and a credit card.
Then 1k cash and no credit card.
@@debragiovine9797- for me this depends on the type of debt we are talking about. If I lose my job tomorrow, I don't owe anybody because I am debt free. However, just last year I owed and if I lost my job I still would have been fine as long as my debt was not in things I needed to get a new job like anything pertaining to my transportation, housing, phone.m and laptop to apply for jobs. Basic needs. Basically, if it's student loan debt then that's fine to keep because there are no immediate consequences if you lose your job. Cars though, I want that paid off as quickly as possible for example because if I lose my job then I can use my car to interview for a new job etc without the threat of repossession. It depends on what the debt is for. That's how I looked at it and I did it in that order until I was debt free.
Do NOT go down to 1000, DO NOT DO IT. stupidest thing you could do when you have children. keep a minimum of 1 month while you are paying debt. then build up the 6 months.
The stupidest thing you could do is have children.
$1000 is enough for some people, depending on their circumstances. Maybe those who presently live with parents, rent a furnished place, or have no car, or need for one.Just use your own judgement on how much your "starter" emergency fund needs to be, and then move on to baby step 2. Dave doesn't need to know. There are things Dave has said, in other videos, that indicate he is flexible anyway, esp when a baby is in the equation. Though he does point out that its deliberately a low amount, to keep you intense on getting out of debt. Just enough for smaller repairs to the car, or replace a small household appliance. And step 3, as soon as you are out of debt, is to build a much more realistic emergency fund. My same suggestion applies there too. Just decide what level is right for you. The baby steps are guidelines, not laws. Dave doesn't need to know that you pushed one of his boundaries a little !!
I haven’t come across with husband or wife in waiting with children of 5 on how to save… I hear mostly individuals without children or with 1 or 2 children
Are you a husband or wife with 5 children?
So true! I’ve never had an $1,000 emergency. It’s always been between $1,500-$3,000. I agree to keep a minimum of $5,000 in your emergency fund
Those would not be emergencies.
I've had several $1000 emergencies. Most of them are from being hospitalized because of chronic medical issues. That's even after insurance pays their part. I go about once every one to two years.
The $1,000 is not the emergency fund. It's just $1,000 for emergencies while you're paying all your debts off. The real emergency fund comes in later baby steps which requires three to six months of expenses which is a true emergency fund
@@BigJohnM it just seems very risky to only have $1000 saved when they have a new born. They already have a lot saved so why is it bad if they keep 5k to 10k as a starter emergency fund?
I don't think they should use up all that money right away. I would pay mom and the credit cards first. The medical bill they can set up payments since hospitals normally don't charge interest as long as you are paying something. I don't know what their monthly expenses are, but they need to figure that out and keep enough in savings to cover the bills for one month. Not sure if they should focus on paying the cars or the student loan. It would be easier to pay off the cars and would help free up income. Student loan will take awhile so they need an easy target to keep them motivated. But interest could be higher for the student loan and they could save hundreds of dollars if they focus paying extra to the student loan. The wife should look into earning something. I know she has to watch the baby but there are ways around that like working part time when her husband or another trusted family memebr can watch the baby. If she can work something out that extra income can be just for paying off debt.
Scared to do well with money. 🤣
Sure I'd pay off the family loan first, but different life situations means different priorities. Having debt would be far less stressful to me in the callers situation than not having a large savings. This sounds like another call where the Ramsay team uses mental gymnastics to push their one size fits all philosophy rather than considering the specifics of an individual situation. But when you make your money with your brand of preaching I guess thats what you gotta do....
I wouldn’t bring my savings down to $1000 if living on one income. I’d do step 3 first then start step 2. I’d follow the steps as they are if a two income home. I think they need to tweak the plan if mom stays home.
I just paid $8,000 on a HVAC unit. One day it was working, next day it was not. If I only had $1,000 in an emergency fund, what would I do? Need heat in the house or Momma isn't going to be happy. When Momma ain't happy, nobody is happy. Taking your emergency fund down to $1,000 when you are not in dire financial straits is crazy.
What I would do:
1. Pay the $3k to mom-in-law. MIL might surprise you and say "That's okay honey. Just take that check and put it in the baby's college fund."
2. Pay off the $2k credit card debt.
3. Set the medical bill up on a reasonable amortization schedule - let's say 6 months. Medical debt usually does not charge interest or finance charge.
4. Make normal payments on the cars depending on the interest rate. If high interest rate, pay it off.
5. Throw any extra income to the student loans. That is the albatross around their neck.
WHY do you even listen to Dave's program?
Ok, ok I don't agree with everything Dave says and I agree that $1K is too low of an emergency fund BUT your #4 is the polar opposite of Dave's program that IS BEHAVIORAL BASED not simply financial based on interest rates, etc
So again I ask, WHY do you listen?
If the AC does out with only a $1k emergency fund, then they could just put it on their credit card
@GAFB1122 must of us listen because it's entertaining to listen to some people's problems but I don't even follow Dave's plan. My plan is better and it works. Again I'm here for Entertainment
@musicpro7278 At least you're honest. LOL
@@GAFB1122 Sorta like watching two trains speeding toward each other, you know what is going to happen but can't turn away. Sometimes the train wreck is the caller, sometimes the train wreck is the advice Ramsey gives.
I followed their plan but left my $10k in the bank and started like I had nothing saved. Snow balled it all and payed off CC and student loans.
SAHM no side job on the weekends. That would help. Good in Jade she should get some source of income. It shouldn't be all in him.
The only debt a person should carry is a mortgage, and it should be a 30 year. I know it would be fine to not have a mortgage, but if you get your career to a successful point where each monthly mortgage payment is only 5% or less of your monthly income, thats just as good as not having a payment. So, in other words, your household income is about 25,000 a month, and your mortgage is about 1300 a month. Thats nothing!
So Dave would say that that is a big no no. But I guarantee that even people who make that much money, and dont have a mortgage, they are paying at least 1300 a month between car insurance, cable plans, cell phones plans, and gym memberships. I dont waste my money on any of that stuff, so i would rather put it towards a mortgage. The ROI is better on a mortgage than all that fluff of monthly payments people have.
She can work too. Don't put it just on him. At least Jade brought that up.
You can tell Jade is a very progressive woman so the idea of a female not working while she can accept it she would much rather see women working too lmao
Paying off student loans with the debt snowball method is a bad idea.
1. Making the minimum payment on a student loan while paying off other loans can cause the student loan balance to increase.
2. Divorcing a few years later can very easily leave one spouse with their student loan paid off and the other with a higher student loan balance than they started with.
Why would the balance increase? Dave's program says minimum payments, but I have never heard it said that you don't cover interest. If you make the minimum payment to include interest so the balance does not increase, then what's the problem?
But hey, if you can point me to where Dave's program says that it's ok for a student loan balance to increase because of minimum payments, please do so. I'd be very interested in seeing that.
@@GAFB1122 Minimum payments on student can be income based and may not even cover interest.
1k of emergency savings???? Bruh try having that in your bank account in Boston that’s legit nothing.
Boston is legit nothing.
John is gonna say..I can’t breathe
That makes him not safe. Look I'm the mirror and say I'm scared.
ill agree with her to a point.i would want more than $1k in the bank..would keep $10k in there and use the rest to pay most of it all..
Degree in early childhood education and works at a zoo. I am betting the animals are better behaved.
And better understood.
I would never reduce to $1,000 in an emergency fund .That amount was relevant a decade ago.😢.I need cash to live a frugal existence..garage sale savings..hired help for yard work..snow removal at 73 yrs old.
1k is not enough for an emergency fund, this is 2024! They need to increase their emergency fund amount to at least 4k
Do not empty your bank account.
They just moved to the area, had a baby and I'm assuming he got a new job. Emptying the account would be the most unsound move they could make. Pay off MIL, the credit card and the deductible and keep paying the rest over time.
yes, i would not go below 1 month of expenses while paying debt and having children at the same time!
AGREED. This is hwy this show annoys me. they're so on script to their snowball and 1k emergency fund they dont apply context to ANYTHING. 1k with a new born is a hell no. Pay off the little debt but keep atleast 10k. 1K is useless money in 2024
Three grand minimum, a thousand will only cover Jack $h!t. We stayed around five K and completed the baby steps.
Why doesn't she get a job on the weekends, or when he comes home from work?
I like how she said his debt like she doesn’t wanna pay ot off like she’s even working lol you ain’t paying off nothing ur husband will pay off everything including ur debt which is dumb
To all of those who complain about the $1,000 first baby step, RAMSEY IS RIGHT. She doesn't have savings, that money belongs to the people they owe. Can you imagine how much interest they are paying every month? If they pay off just a portion of their debt, they can use that money to pay off the other debts and then put a month's worth of expenses away. It's like the people who keep their mortgage so that they can pay the bank rather than the government. Where is the savings in that?
I'm sure that if they have an immediate d, that $1,000 will not cover, one of those lovely people who loaned them money before will be happy to loan them some more.
I have always been the exact same philosophy. The probability of an emergency happening can be slim but being charged the interest on the debt is definite. It's not like the person wouldn't be able to reuse the debt in the chance that some emergency came up and didn't have the available funds. To me, once someone has struggled and gotten out of debt from credit cards, then they have realized how dangerous of a tool they can be and will be more control over frivolous spending and be able to have it for "emergency use"
1000 might as well be 0 dollars. Im snowballing, but Im not using my savings
You will only have a 1,000 for a short time. With no debt you will be able to rebuild savings very fast.
One thing you will have to do for this to work is commit to not taking any debt any time in the future. The only possible exception is a morgue.
No debt and room in you budget give you so much peace
Medical debt is often unavoidable.
With how thought the labor market is and how things continue to go up in price. I doubt almost anyone is actually doing the $1000 emergency fund. I do at least $2500 in savings and have had more than one emergency come up that was over $1000, they are to prideful to ever admit they are wrong.
They're not wrong, America is wrong. That's why America is the laughing stock of the world.
You know on the surface I would agree with all the comments saying that spending almost all savings on debt is not a great idea. But then again, we are not the expert's here, who am I or most people commenting to give financial advice?
I saw the baby steps and said "bring it on!" My wife did not feel the same way...
Jade that was the clearest concise explanation of debt vs savings that I've heard on this channel! That question comes up in practically every call and some of the other "personalities" including Dave, don't make it very clear for the average person just starting to manage their money
But she is 100% repeating like a puppet, how Dave answers a call. Been a listener since 2012.
Emptying out your account with a newborn is a wildly stupid decision. Imagine something happens to the baby or your job and you need that cash to pay for it…I’d rather hold onto a healthy amount in savings and pay off debt fast (but not immediately). Some of Dave’s advice will ruin people
I'm in agreement with some folks on here, Dave's first baby step should be increased to $2,000 to $2,500.
Dave's $1,000 may have covered alot 10 to 15 years ago but it's pittance now. $2k +/- is more reasonable for 2024!
I would say keep 1 month in the bank minimum, especially if you have kids. I know that could be hard for some and so thy may not be able to get there right away,but these people already have it, so i would NEVER tell them to go under 1 month, that's insane.
@@JosiahK555 No argument there. Definitely can't hurt to have more reserves than Dave's 1st $1,000 baby step 1.
He came up with the $1000 about 30 years ago. It doesn't make any sense that the same $1000 is the magic number in both 1994 and 2024, and the same $1000 for a single person living rent free with mom and the same $1000 for a family of 6 with a $3000/month mortgage.
AGREED. This is hwy this show annoys me. they're so on script to their snowball and 1k emergency fund they dont apply context to ANYTHING. 1k with a new born is a hell no. Pay off the little debt but keep atleast 10k. 1K is useless money in 2024
@@JosiahK555agree. even 1 month is scary due to the fact that if you lose your job, it could take atleast a month to get a new job AND get first paycheck. few weeks to get a job, few more weeks to get that first paycheck. 1k is and always has been a terrible advice
How do families live off these salaries yikes
She already stated that “we have the debt because we’re married” yet John goes on a rant about vocab…. Jesus Christ…. Does he ever offer any financial advice?
And she used singular on the others and point them to the husband no? We have the debt but he incurred x, and y, I only incurred z. That is the problem, seeing it like that, the longer it takes to pay or harder it becomes to bring it down, using the same vocabulary for extended period just increases the chances of resentment towards the other.
Dr John does not give much if any financial advise. The other personalities do the financial advice.
Why is the first thing in a relationship is to have a baby? Nobody can answer this. Even if your living in your parents basement.
They've been together for 5 years. A child is a blessing.
I don't think they plan it that way..
Only having $1k in the bank is very reasonable. I dont know why they tell people to do that.
Did you mean "unreasonable"?
@@Fishouta Yes. Typo!
Who knows, maybe her husband will be an amazing tattoo artist lol
If she's that concerned, she can pay off all the minor debts. Then keep the left over 5-6k as an emergency funding work to pay Of the student loan over a year or two.
Waittttt hold up…..he has a degree in early childhood education, but works in a zoo? 🤣🤣🤣💀
And a licensed tattoo artist....
8:50 glad Jade jumped in there, so we didn’t just get the usual “husband works himself into the ground doing 3 jobs whilst momma stays at home all day with 1 baby”
I know its absolutely ridiculous. I'm sorry but a $55,000 income, a wife, and a baby its to much for one person. The husband should look for a better paying jib but she should also be working to bring income in- the next issue will be he is not present enough for family time.
Why's she sounding scared and timid was she like this at the dealership when she was negotiating the price of her.. there's a sucker born everyday!!!
$28K can last almost a year.
If she got a simple full time job making $20/hr, she could easily bring in an extra $1500/month even after paying $1200/month in daycare expenses. So it’s worth it for her to go back to work until they are on baby steps 4,5,6.
What job is so easy to get that pays $20/hr.?
@@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 if they lived in California. The governor passed a minimum wage of $20 an hour for fastfood workers. Prices there are getting out of hand though so I would bet daycare would cost much more as well.
Better to work a couple of evenings a week or weekends and have no daycare.
He needs to get another job while she does all the child/house care. $55k/yr is nothing.
Don't start a family's until you're on at least baby step 4 or higher. I don't know why it's such a hard concept. Kids are not more important than YOUR own future. You literally came first so you should come first now. If you were struggling before kids why triple down and have more kids. No need to make someone else life worse because you couldn't wait to get your stuff together. That's just asisine and selfish.
The co-host resembles the singer Robin Thicke ❤
HE owes... nah, she said it with her chest. She borrowed money from HIS mother at 0% like it's a great deal. You're married to her son... had a lot to do with the offer. 😂😂 That being said, $50K in student loans and making $55K a year seems a little low. Working at a zoo??? Become a teacher for the benefits and pension amd/or get a second job. You married her. She had the kid. I heard the blessing crying in the background. Get to work so she can be less stressed at home and have everything she needs and more.
" this couple has 80,000 in debt ,,,have 28k cash""" if you subtract 80from28 that equals to 53k"" THEY still have 53k in Debts... YOU are NOT going to sleep with 1000.00 in the Bank... AND ONLY
making 55k income with a baby ..."" """SHIT HAPPENS"" John Delony and Jade have NO idea about"" LIFE""" ON what couple goes through very day... on a 55k income...""
I dont like this caller's demeanor, she frames as his and mine, and then later says "my child." Gg for John calling it out.
The mother wants to sit home and play mommie to her "non essential child," the husband isn't even working in the field he went to college for and paying the debt for. Your married one year and already have a child. She needs a 40 hrs week job debt is all on his shoulders
Bs6 and I'm not worried a wink
4,000 for the birth of child? The insurance don’t cover that?
The insurance probably paid out a lot more than that. A lot of people these days have high deductibles.
No way would i go down to 1000
We we we but the man is the one working and paying or everything...we we we...ujummm...😅😅😅..!
This is bad advice. They should not touch any debt until 6 months after the baby is born. They just barely ended storm mode!
You literally can pay everything off today and havd over $6k left. What is your problem?
1k is flat out not enough.
You've got to both be out of debt AND have a large emergency fund to be successful. If you have a large emergency fund with debt you're still a failure.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508What are you talking about? A 1000 dollars is not enough to cover emergencies. There's no conversation to be had about being successful or a failure. The issue is that 1000 dollars is not enough for an emergency fund.
This is not a full emergency fund, it is a starter emergency fund. You must be new to Ramsey. Or just generally confused about everything, like 99% of Americans.@@Kaiser_Raukov
Dr John Bologna here to ruin the episode 🎉
I can't even watch Ramsey & Co. anymore. They infuriate me.
Could you elaborate on why?
Do they make you mad because they're so direct?
Dave really doesn’t care
I almost can't watch it either. Telling someone to drain their bank account down to 1000k with a newborn baby is not only dumb, but incredibly irresponsible. They've lost touch with reality. It's not 1985 anymore, get it together, shit is real out here.
But yet here you are.
4:56 Your debt is greater than your savings therefore you have less than $1,000 right now.
Went to a college graduation a few years back. ALL the Magna Cum Laudes were "early childhood education". Sounds a lot like basket weaving. Not worth $55,000.
Can't watch vids with Delaney anymore his tone is insulting and belittling. Coming from a therapist that's on the the scary side when it comes to money. Don't think his angle will help.
He sighs at every call.
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She said my baby hope that dont mean dude married a single mom i pray thats his baby too
It takes a really special man
If he did, so what?
@@jimmymcgill6778 i not gonna invest my time and money into someone elses kid now if the dad died in a war or a car crash but no way im dealing with that drama if he still around plus when she leaves you lose 2 people a kid that loses 2 daddys
She said baby they been together 5 years hopefully it’s his lol
@@xsgtxbigboy1655 its 2024 its not his she would have said our baby not my baby
Pronoun police is never later.
Nothing against Jade but why did John say Jade is the expert? She’s telling people what Dave preaches. Repeating someone else’s plan doesn’t make you an expert. Just makes you a good employee. But I get it here. They just keeping people out of debt that can’t budget and don’t make a lot of money.
Yes, they are puppets.
Why does it cost so much to give birth to a child 😮
$4,000!
Only in the so called greatest country in the world u can go bankrupt by going to hospital 😊
Never loan money to your future DIL! What a terrible way to start that relationship. And why the heck would you not forgive it as a wedding gift?
AGREED. This is hwy this show annoys me. they're so on script to their snowball and 1k emergency fund they dont apply context to ANYTHING. 1k with a new born is a hell no. Pay off the little debt but keep atleast 10k. 1K is useless money in 2024
$1,000 a year in an emergency fund with an infant? Sounds like disaster. If you go that lean get an emergency credit card. Also vote in Democrats that support universal health care like Canada and Europe. It’s insane that half of all Dave’s callers are saddled with medical debt but are happy to vote against their own interests.
He got a degree in Early Childhood Education and works for a zoo. A zoo. He works for a zoo. OMG
The way teaching is nowadays should be the other way around. Degree in zoology to work at a school.
Have you ever seen an educational program at a zoo? You seem to be assuming he’s not using his degree at all. I highly doubt they pay 55k/year for the guy that shovels elephant poop all day. So, there’s at least some chance his education is being utilized.
@@djpuplex 😂
@@donvin999 My comment was directed at how schools are like zoos nowadays not whatever you are chirping about.
There’s nothing wrong with working at a zoo. They have programs for kids and he doesn’t have to be in a classroom all day. I think this is a good choice for his degree.
If he went out this morning and purchased a $100k Ford Raptor it's not HIS debt..it's THEIR debt.
Cool!
And if SHE went out and borrowed and bought a $10,000 necklace, it's not just her debt. It's their debt. Cool!!
That’s how marriage works dude. What’s mine is hers and what’s hers is mine. How is that hard to comprehend?
@tonytoni1150 You'd have to be more familiar with Justincase's comments. From what I can surmise, the person is a guy and must have gotten burned by a female because the comments have a theme, and that theme is; man good, woman bad!!
There is another on here who is similar. djpuplex
Check out that person's comments. It's like they share one brain, lol.
Yup, it's their debt but it is also likely to be their divorce as well.
@@GAFB1122 It was obviiously way over your head as usual. If the guy was an irresponsible bum and blew money on a not needed toy truck I don't believe it's THEIR debt problem.
Another example of a useless degree
No such thing as a useless degree, only useless students.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 yes you are
Typical clueless American. @@Fishouta
Not useless if there are fields that require it. This degree is definitely required in a lot of spaces of you want to move up
$50k/year is NOT ENOUGH MONEY to have a baby. Stop having children when you can't afford them.
A baby doesn't need permission to start.
This is why we need to legalize abortions
@@siva47931that’s murder
50k is more than enough when there’s no debt!
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AGREED. This is hwy this show annoys me. they're so on script to their snowball and 1k emergency fund they dont apply context to ANYTHING. 1k with a new born is a hell no. Pay off the little debt but keep atleast 10k. 1K is useless money in 2024