Jocko Podcast 12 - With Echo Charles | What Made Jocko

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  • Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
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    0:00:00 - 0:04:03 - What made Jocko Jocko
    0:04:03 - “The Forgotten Highlander” Book review
    1:04:50 - Jocko won’t complain about anything ever again.
    1:12:06 - Mistakes by Leaders and re-gaining trust.
    1:20:04 - Workouts for Special Forces selection.
    1:26:56 - Is the Military a “Young Man’s Game”?
    1:32:21 - When to cut your losses. When to decide to cut bait.
    1:43:40 - Substituting anger for aggression.
    2:04:31 - Switching BEAST MODE on and off.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 164

  • @nickpipes_6010
    @nickpipes_6010 7 років тому +168

    Alistair Urquhart, went strait through hell for 3 1/2 years. He died at 97, on October 7th 2016.
    An inspiration to us all

    • @accradata
      @accradata 5 років тому +9

      This should be top comment

    • @nilsify
      @nilsify 3 роки тому +2

      I hope God blessed his soul

    • @michaelkoval8020
      @michaelkoval8020 2 роки тому +1

      I just ordered his book. I'm excited to read honestly. Not because of horrific details but just to understand the grit of human nature and the evil that is in there.
      What a man, what a life and what a story like you said a inspiration to ALL!

  • @justjoe9504
    @justjoe9504 7 років тому +38

    I will never complain again. After hearing this podcast, I have no doubt in my mind that President Truman did the right thing. Invading Japan to fight an enemy like this is unthinkable. These guards had no moral standards or regard for human life. Every single one of the Japanese citizens would have been drafted into service to die for the Emperor. Very humbling episode. Thank you Jocko and Echo.

  • @TheNOSTALGICDECAY
    @TheNOSTALGICDECAY 7 років тому +72

    Echo Charles and his metaphors really crack me up

    • @MrJoeHalt
      @MrJoeHalt 7 років тому +7

      Jane Lane lmao at his Tremors reference!

  • @rationalmystic5
    @rationalmystic5 8 років тому +23

    its been a privilege to have seen this podcast.........deep gratitude..
    no more complaints in life......just.......'get after it'.

  • @MAUROtele
    @MAUROtele 6 років тому +55

    it's amazing jocko's ability to transport you to that situation when reading the books.

  • @gusbisbal9803
    @gusbisbal9803 8 років тому +35

    This is a reminder that human beings do not all deserve to live as basic human right. The Japanese were a military culture that needed to be destroyed. This was a great great podcast. Thank you.

    • @dontfeelcold
      @dontfeelcold 5 років тому +3

      Human rights are a tricky thing. They don't align with nature. The Japanese were just being themselves. Dropping a nuke on them was a massive wake up call for them and is probably a large part of the reason the Japanese culture is the way it is.

  • @joshdabuddha
    @joshdabuddha 7 років тому +31

    Hey Jocko, love your podcasts. Just listening to this old one, realizing this one is personal.My Dutch great grandfather Jan Van Weelderen was a sergeant, and one of those captured POWs on the railways in Burma. He and my family were stationed in Indonesia. And all of them survived for 2 years in internment camps. They ended up in Australia eventually. And he lived til he was 91. Cheers mate!

  • @jaypurcell3733
    @jaypurcell3733 5 років тому +11

    I listened to the first half of this podcast on the bus to college, made me really check myself on feeling sorry about the challenges I have to overcome. Cant take life for granted when you recognize the struggle of those trying to do good before us in the darkest of situations.

  • @Local.Hammer82
    @Local.Hammer82 7 років тому +117

    jocko could scare chuck norris with a bed time story

  • @TomBath
    @TomBath 11 місяців тому +2

    Here I am years later. Coming back to this episode over and over for the reminder I need. Deep gratitude refilled.

  • @fergomez9967
    @fergomez9967 3 роки тому +2

    So i discovered Jocko because of Joe rogan, i started listening Jocko's podcast and im currently in episode 12, I've been taking notes on every podcast. Its a long way to get to the current episode but I'll get after it

    • @michaelkoval8020
      @michaelkoval8020 2 роки тому

      I'm with you brother. I'm on this episode but will start taking notes. There's just SO MUCH wisdom, guidance that you have to come back and review.
      Get after it!!

  • @stevepodraza6363
    @stevepodraza6363 7 років тому +9

    Jocko love your inspiration! Not many regrets in my life but only one would be not joining the armed services in some special forces of some type. Thank you for your service! 🇺🇸 I appreciate all the men and women that have given their souls for my freedom to raise a family and make a good income doing what I do. Thank you!!

  • @joshdabuddha
    @joshdabuddha 8 років тому +16

    Great episode, I don't always listen to the finish of your podcasts Jocko.I have kids so am super busy. But this one right here, was very personal to me.See, my Dutch great grandfather who was stationed in Indonesia in WW2.He was also a POW, and worked on the same railways as Erquhart.He also survived and ended up, moving to Australia to start a new life.He never talked much about this painful period in his life.So it sounds like a fascinating read, I was even teary eyed listening to you read excerpts from the book. Knowing what these men went through. I will never complain about anything. Cheers mate!

  • @Marvellouseffortthat
    @Marvellouseffortthat 7 років тому +16

    Just listened to this today. I'M NEVER COMPLAINING AGAIN

  • @hotshot940
    @hotshot940 8 років тому +22

    Been patiently waiting for #12, can't wait to get through this. Thanks Echo & Jocko!

  • @ThatGeordieGAMER
    @ThatGeordieGAMER 8 років тому +19

    One of the most beautiful things I've ever heard. After all the suffering those men who had been broken down to hollow shells of humanity then spat on the face of barbarity and evil by singing rule Britannia.
    "Thee haughty tyrants ne'er shall tame:
    All their attempts to bend thee down,
    Will but arouse thy generous flame;
    But work their woe, and thy renown.
    "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
    "Britons never will be slaves."

  • @SeemaParsapour
    @SeemaParsapour 3 роки тому +1

    My 20 month old and I listen to you before sleeping and throughout the day. Thank you for bestowing your wisdom upon us

  • @jobtimusprime
    @jobtimusprime 8 років тому +12

    Thank you Jocko. Your PodCast has been a blessing and I have been sharing with as many as I can. Just "SOLID". Keep up the good work and know that you are making a difference brother.

  • @gustavf.6067
    @gustavf.6067 7 років тому +11

    Thanks for doing this, both of you. You have no idea how much it matters.

  • @TheFootOfGold
    @TheFootOfGold 2 роки тому +2

    Fantastic episode. My mind feels clear and my priorities are a bit straighter after hearing how Alistair's life became a temporary horrific nightmare. There is no struggle an individual cannot prevail through.

  • @Compton2952
    @Compton2952 8 років тому +10

    Mr. Jocko you're an Extraordinary human being. Like I can literally listen to you all day, very special person you are sir. When you share these stories you make me feel as if I am actually there in real time, real life. When God made man he used you as the blueprint. - BL

  • @mnt809
    @mnt809 7 місяців тому

    After reading Unbroken I decided I will never complain again. Similar type of book. That was years ago, and I think I've been true to that commitment. Whenever I think that life is not the most ideal, I say to myself or others, that at least we are not POWs. But....This book was heavier, and more disturbing. My 9 year old son was in the room, and I noticed he was listening, and was getting very sullen. I had to pause and come back to it the next week. (This is my Saturday morning workout/weapons training playlist.) Outstanding podcast, and channel.

  • @jeeee3f
    @jeeee3f 8 років тому +5

    Please keep making podcasts. You are constantly inspiring me, and my friends I've shown you to, to be ever better.

  • @KY_REDDYNESS
    @KY_REDDYNESS 3 роки тому +5

    That's the most horrifying account I've ever heard of. Evil is definitely real. Then and now! I'm thankful someone lived who could immortalize it in writing. That author's note at the end brought tears to my eyes. A strong soul.

  • @0num4
    @0num4 7 років тому +35

    I thought I knew what toughness and iron will were before I heard Alistair Urquhart's story. I was wrong on every single level.
    RIP Alistair Urquhart (8 Sept 1919 -- 7 Oct 2016)

  • @daddytankee6767
    @daddytankee6767 5 років тому +4

    I listened to it Jocko, I'm glad that there's someone shedding light on these events. Keep the atrocities and general principles learned coming.

  • @GIWolfGI
    @GIWolfGI 8 років тому +4

    Great podcast as always Jocko, thank you! Amazon should give you compensation for every podcast you make involving books! This is definitely the next read. Thanks again for your time.

  • @drackxman
    @drackxman 6 років тому +4

    Saw a documentary on the Bridge on the river Kawai. Many died of malaria. The locals or coolies suffered even worse. It was beyond terrible what happened to those men held captive.

  • @AMG-316
    @AMG-316 3 роки тому

    Just got done listening to podcast 280 and the atrocities committed against the Armenia's pre WWI buy the Turkish empire and then came to listen to episode 12 per recommendation of Jocko... I learned to truly appreciate life and freedom after 6 years in KDOC Max and High medium custody. Sometimes we have to truly suffer to appreciate all the small things most take for granted. I've been home for almost 4 years and I still daily feel like I won the lottery for to many things to mention here. Truly thankful for life and freedom!

  • @chrisjenks9477
    @chrisjenks9477 3 місяці тому

    Just getting into your podcast! Appreciate all the stories. Helps motivation, focus, and keeps me in check with my own struggles in life

  • @rohde42
    @rohde42 2 місяці тому

    Echo Charles analogies are a sight to behold 😂

  • @normanquednau
    @normanquednau 7 років тому +9

    As a german I heard grueling stories from Europe in WW II... I won´t never ever complain again too!

    • @bh5817
      @bh5817 4 роки тому +2

      The Jews and their Allied lackeys subjected the German people to many horrors

  • @tobygoodman9134
    @tobygoodman9134 3 роки тому

    This book has truly blown my mind.
    It shows what humans are capable of, both through cruelty and also drive to stay alive.
    Amazing stuff.

  • @kaydenhardcastle
    @kaydenhardcastle 5 років тому +1

    Going through these podcasts is awesome.
    I've been increasing my self-discipline since graduating highschool
    and you guys offer so much insight and wisdom. Thank you!

  • @shanesanmiguel4298
    @shanesanmiguel4298 8 років тому +3

    definitely going to put myself in check if I complain about something

  • @Jcancel54
    @Jcancel54 Рік тому +1

    Jocko, you should start a book club and then go over the book on the podcast

  • @markputt8887
    @markputt8887 3 роки тому

    I had to take a break middle thru, so heavy, makes me wonder if that's the reason why people just want happy thoughts. Got back in from the garage, and finishing listening. Can't stop listening to Jocko.

  • @DrengrMike
    @DrengrMike 4 роки тому +1

    This is some of the heaviest pain I've ever heard of. Get after it. No excuses whatsoever.

  • @michaelpost4457
    @michaelpost4457 4 роки тому +2

    The Departed....
    " A lot of people had to die for me to be me." Jack Nichols. I bet a few people died for Jocko to be Jocko too. Great Podcast!

  • @reviewcraze
    @reviewcraze 3 роки тому

    The beginning of the podcast was crazy! So I’m time for these classics. Started at 1 and now going to 13. Two weeks down! 🤣

  • @30yearoldgrom
    @30yearoldgrom Рік тому

    May health and happiness be yours. What a human being. ❤🤙

  • @dustintaber
    @dustintaber 4 роки тому

    I wish Jocko read the whole book. I listened to the audiobook and the narrator read it so nonchalantly that he made the story not even sound that bad. Jocko has the right voice for what Alister went through.

  • @coachfrankie1112
    @coachfrankie1112 8 років тому +1

    these talks keep getting better. thanks guys. best one yet

  • @michaelsorrells4506
    @michaelsorrells4506 6 років тому

    Thanks for being one of the good guys brother. God bless!

  • @passenger413
    @passenger413 3 роки тому

    I have a blue jackets manual for the US Navy from WW2. My grandfather was in the Navy and fought in the Pacific during WW2. He never really talked about the war, and I never knew the brutality of the pow camps and the torture from the Japanese soldiers. Hard story to hear but I'm glad I got to hear it and will need to buy the book.

  • @frostyboo2
    @frostyboo2 5 років тому +1

    "Bridge over the river Kwai", great film. Must admit I have a soft spot for "Ice cold in Alex", bet that beer taste good.

    • @Steve-ss6ns
      @Steve-ss6ns 4 роки тому

      I agree with you, I also had a massive crush on Sylvia Syms at the time!

  • @enjoybeing0072
    @enjoybeing0072 3 роки тому +1

    Lieutenant Commander Sir, I have been conducting some interviews of family members over the years about their military service. I wanted to say, serving was my dream but, at age 18 my pancreas failed (became type 1 diabetic) after returning from a fight tournament and the service would no longer take me. In one interview, one of my uncle's (mom's youngest brother) went into Vietnam at age 17 (grandfather signed) and being a tall large framed individual, the army had him front/center carrying machine gun, flamethrower, and side arm plus the pack on your back that is told many times over in each of your podcast/youtube. Now this man after being shot never ever said a word of his service upon returning to US (due to his injuries) at age 19. In 1995, 32 years later right before my grandmother's surgery, he tells his four-sisters of the horror he witnessed on the battlefield and the screams he heard while doing his job (part of it was burning viet-cong from caves, etc). This uncle, has always been an extremely positive sole, showed respect to everyone he encountered, and always has had an open heart for anyone in need. Sir, I think you would agree, perhaps this was all molded by his service to our country.

  • @adamholt4317
    @adamholt4317 2 роки тому

    I still come back to this all the time, Jocko complaining about complaining is hilarious and humbling.

  • @MatteoCeccarini
    @MatteoCeccarini 7 років тому

    Thank you for sharing with us your knowledge about these experiences, they are extremely helpful in re-priming my attitude towards the "challenges" and "problems" I go through in my lucky life.I live in Japan and I found this episode particularly disturbing, war is a terror beyond imagination.The author and protagonist of the book just passed away, rest to his soul.

  • @dogbuggy32
    @dogbuggy32 2 роки тому

    I met an old cowboy and he told me some stories that stopped me from complaining. But they weren't nothing like that

  • @GamjaWinnipeg
    @GamjaWinnipeg 5 років тому +1

    Echo Charles cracks me up, he would sometimes say things that doesnt really make any sense hahaha. But I learn a lot from you and Jocko. Awesome men

  • @Synthminator
    @Synthminator 8 років тому +1

    Great podcast guys, tks for dropping the knowledge bombs out here! !Cheers

  • @WasabiWei
    @WasabiWei 7 років тому +1

    Great episode and kudos to Echo for the Tremors reference. I totally got your point, brah.

  • @kym393
    @kym393 3 роки тому

    Respect to these men. Never Forget..

  • @davewarner7763
    @davewarner7763 8 років тому

    Talk about being a stud, im glad he is on our side

  • @seanpatrickrichards5593
    @seanpatrickrichards5593 4 роки тому +1

    This one, Machette Season, and Panzram are my favorites :) Magic! Magnifique!

  • @MorethanGUNZ
    @MorethanGUNZ 2 роки тому

    Phenomenal episode, always an eye opening experience!

  • @leeoakley5753
    @leeoakley5753 8 років тому +4

    Thank you for this.

  • @AngryOscillator
    @AngryOscillator 3 роки тому

    My Great Uncle died in one of those camps. I carry his name... not sure I should. No words.
    Life is worth living. In all the tales I've heard through out this podcast (from the Russian Gulags to the Nazi concentration camps, the trenches to the beaches of death) there has been a similar theme, its the people and the hope of returning to loved ones, camaraderie and the humanity that got people through. I find myself isolated, lonely at times, a lot of times, and felt like that was an excuse of sorts, a reason why these people could overcome and why my situation, though nothing in comparison on the surface, carried a 'special' weight to it. Not here. Once the medics had been left behind there was no love. But some survived. And life is worth living.

  • @davidlane147
    @davidlane147 3 роки тому

    I’m surprised but happy that Jocko’s podcast hasn’t be removed from UA-cam for being too graphic

  • @Mrhi1050
    @Mrhi1050 6 років тому +3

    All the babies in the world that complain about politics and how much they hate America should listen to this.

  • @chief_5748
    @chief_5748 5 років тому

    “Back to the book!” Cracked me up 😂

  • @briannejanette236
    @briannejanette236 3 роки тому +1

    Getting to be a huge fan!

  • @TruthSubjective
    @TruthSubjective 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you

  • @Jinsun202
    @Jinsun202 8 років тому +5

    Great podcast. You mentioned in it that the soldiers were "caged like animals" - it made me think about how animals are treated every single day, but most people don't even think about it. Then we buy their flesh in a supermarket and at the end of it all they are eaten.

    • @civilwarsam8829
      @civilwarsam8829 8 років тому +5

      +Ex Cop I think about animal welfare everyday. As a fourth generation farmer and farmers like me know that livestock need to be cared for extremely well in order to be healthy, and productive. Animal well being is a matter livestock owners take seriously. I grew up on a beef farm, and have many friends in every aspect of animal agriculture. I heard a well stated saying that you can tell what type of person someone is by the friends they surround themselves with, and I would not surround myself with people that mistreat their livestock.

    • @Jinsun202
      @Jinsun202 8 років тому +3

      Sure, maybe some farmers are concerned for animal welfare, others, sadly, aren't. I just found it interesting how in the video it was said "they were caged like animals" to show how outrageous it was. But the caging of animals is largely not controversial and hardly questioned by society in general. The reality is, we are all animals, and what's wrong for humans is also wrong for other animals.

    • @DevilFrog61
      @DevilFrog61 8 років тому +4

      +Ex Cop most animals also don't have the same consciousness as humans. When one of my dogs died, the other dog was sad after noticing a void and s change. But after a week or two, the dog doesn't hold any sorrow, they are always present in the moment. They don't worry about the past or the future. They are purely present in the moment, and I think that's very interesting. We should love and treat animals well, but we often assume that our human experience and consciousness is the same as our pets, or our livestock, or the fish we catch, or the bugs we swat to death. Life is very trippy. But only humans can truly acknowledge it.

    • @TheHypernaught
      @TheHypernaught 6 років тому

      Joko hunts dude.

    • @dontfeelcold
      @dontfeelcold 5 років тому

      @@DevilFrog61 Only a human THINKS that they can truly acknowledge life.

  • @mohammedaljinabe1573
    @mohammedaljinabe1573 2 роки тому

    We should buy this book

  • @josephzupan8953
    @josephzupan8953 6 років тому +2

    Buying this book wow

  • @szgyrgy
    @szgyrgy 7 років тому +4

    With a palm that stays always smooth,
    which turns into a fist only in the pocket..

  • @JayEss414
    @JayEss414 6 років тому +4

    man,mindblowing story.its a shame England is in the state it is in now.

  • @maddog7795
    @maddog7795 4 роки тому

    Amazing episode

  • @jonathanwilson1860
    @jonathanwilson1860 2 роки тому

    If your not quite a front line guy what's the best way to support those who are..while you sit at home? Help keep their families safe ?

  • @joshking2157
    @joshking2157 7 років тому

    Wow...Thank you Sir

  • @uradumby25
    @uradumby25 7 років тому +3

    I googled maggots on an ulcer, and that was a poor decision while eating. Loving this podcast though

  • @hairymanofscutchalo570
    @hairymanofscutchalo570 3 роки тому

    2021 gang here, working my way through

  • @curlybobz
    @curlybobz 6 років тому +1

    I'm ordering the book today. I can't imagine such courage and will.

  • @jordanredroom
    @jordanredroom 4 роки тому

    This was hard to listen to. Thank you for always keeping us wide awake.

  • @SirGalaEd
    @SirGalaEd 3 роки тому

    I work veterinary emergency...people often struggle with the pressure of a busy day, but I try to remember...no one shot at me today, I didn't sleep in a foxhole, my comrades are not dying beside me...it just a busy day

  • @jameslee4519
    @jameslee4519 3 роки тому

    1 hour 32 min mark: *Jocko's family listening to this* "D:"

  • @austinunterbrink9805
    @austinunterbrink9805 4 роки тому

    Let's get after it

  • @zenry2434
    @zenry2434 4 місяці тому

    I’m gunna check myself too

  • @romanfernandez4380
    @romanfernandez4380 6 років тому

    GOOOOD

  • @mariojorge9529
    @mariojorge9529 2 роки тому +1

    Please, like and share this video. Thank you!

  • @petitlouis5010
    @petitlouis5010 8 років тому

    I'm not a complainer but I have a disease that "eats the soul", no medication will ever cure that.... some of your podcasts, putting words on how to motivate, little phrases that I try to use in my daily life : thank you.

    • @bobryker6984
      @bobryker6984 7 років тому

      Petit Louis what are you talking about

  • @Trending_Usa
    @Trending_Usa 5 років тому

    MY FATHER FOUGHT IN WWII AND I VOW TO RESPECT EVERYONE WHO SURVIVE IT

  • @tilikumtim5562
    @tilikumtim5562 7 років тому

    Some of the most sickening torture by the Japanese during WW2 was carried out in Unit 571, where people were used as experiment subjects and were tortured and killed in almost every way you can imagine.
    Once the war was over, the man who ran Unit 571, instead of facing justice, was actually given a job in an American University so he could share the information that had collected on tortured 'test subjects'.

  • @jamajnasoares5702
    @jamajnasoares5702 2 роки тому

    02:04:38 THE BEAST

  • @MihirS84
    @MihirS84 6 років тому +1

    Hit thumbs up if you wish to have Greg Jackson on the Jocko Podcast

  • @noble20xx56
    @noble20xx56 5 років тому

    Fuck man. I've heard the exceprt of this but never the extracts from this book. It really is unbelievable how this man made it through all that...hell. It was so unbelievably vivid that my brain couldn't even imagine some parts. I've never heard of a story like this. It's just inhumane. Downright terrifying.

  • @DJRAJEE
    @DJRAJEE 3 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @robdodd8008
    @robdodd8008 6 років тому +2

    Check..myself no doubt

  • @mikerice2430
    @mikerice2430 2 роки тому

    It's always amazing to me
    What a man can do to another man.What God must think of us as humans. Maybe thats why there's Heven and Hell.

  • @justmeandmy
    @justmeandmy 7 років тому

    My Notes:
    * Hardcore music influenced him
    * Movie: Bridge on the river Kwai en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bridge_on_the_River_Kwai
    * Desire to be a "Commando"
    * Beast mode is saying "I DONT STOP" (and believing it) and you wont stop.

  • @alsturrock8940
    @alsturrock8940 3 роки тому

    Many men in the 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 regiments, many of them friends of my grandfather, were Japanese PoW’s. In one case, a gentleman from Fife, was on his deathbed delirious from the morphine, sat bold upright and began shouting in fluent Japanese - something that shocked his family as they never knew he could talk Japanese. These heroes came home and never, and I mean NEVER talk about it. No wonder. What Urquart describes in his book was hell on earth and they didn’t want to pass that kind of trauma on I think. What do you guys think?

  • @steventhompson399
    @steventhompson399 3 роки тому

    What horror the guys on those hell ships endured, insanity murder mercy killing cannibalism vampirism claustrophobia dehydration starvation drowning etc it reminded me of the "pow camps" where over 2 million Soviets died in late 41 early 42 when the germans put them in open fields surrounded by barbed wire and fence and the POWs just sat there exposed to the elements and with almost no food or water and turned on each other with murder and cannibalism, worse than any horror film I've seen

  • @edwardsmith1768
    @edwardsmith1768 8 років тому

    fuk yea, almost 9000 subs!!😃

  • @rktsnail
    @rktsnail 4 роки тому

    We’re so spoiled in this country.

  • @runningsuperska
    @runningsuperska 8 років тому

    I'll never be able to watch that movie again. So harrowing.

  • @rianthomson1204
    @rianthomson1204 6 років тому

    Anybody else notice echo Charles sounds a bit like lee syatt??😂😂

  • @DontLetTheOldManIn
    @DontLetTheOldManIn 4 роки тому

    This book and others like it by survivors of Japanese POW camps, (ie, "Unbroken" and "Evidence Not Seen", the story of a female missionary in the Philippines who survived the entire war in a camp) sure make you hate Japanese all over again. I believe some of the lessons that come from these stories are, the power of words and how they can change normal people into monsters, and how absolute power can do the same.

    • @calska140
      @calska140 3 роки тому +1

      I wouldn't have a spot of enmity in my heart for Japan if (like Germany) Japan fully acknowledged what they'd done and accepted responsibility for it. But Japan has mostly gone the other way. Denied any wrongdoing tried to villanize the US in accounts of the war.
      Glossed over who started the war, denied the rape of nanjing, denied the Korean comfort women.
      Japan hasn't seemed to learn anything.

  • @tonysevery3684
    @tonysevery3684 5 років тому +1

    well i thought being a Ironworker, sucked. I have had it easy.