Do we all have to change to LMDE? - Linux Mint vs LMDE - (Ubuntu Snap)

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  • @donvineyard8654
    @donvineyard8654 6 місяців тому +11

    When LMDE6 came out I started migrating my computers to it. I love it. All the Debian goodness with the Minty frosting on top. I only have one computer still on the Ubuntu version.

  • @ritawheeler1751
    @ritawheeler1751 5 місяців тому +8

    Thanks so much for your video. I am an Ubuntu / Linux only user since about since about 2011, but started using Ubuntu in 2005. Now I hate Ubuntu because of snap. Ubuntu is trash. I started using LMDE 6 about 5 months ago. Your video is one of the best descriptions I've seen on what the future of LMDE is. I don't like flatpack either. I hope they will add the Driver Manager to LMDE soon. I'm sure I can add the drivers, but it will be a pain and take too much time. I surely hope that Debian will always continue to support the apt system.

  • @davidwayne9982
    @davidwayne9982 7 місяців тому +14

    NO -- no one HAS to change to LMDE6--- but it's BETTER!!!! You don't have to switch from a Donkey cart to a Ferrari either--- but it's BETTER!!

  • @zokislav89
    @zokislav89 6 місяців тому +7

    A nice video with good and honest comparison.
    Linux Mint was my first distro, specially the whole Cinammon experience was beautiful, but after i learned/grew i t experimented with multiple OS. I am using LMDE 6 now, but agree that new Linux users should try /start with regular Linux (Ubuntu base) mostly because of the big base, simplicity and support ,
    LMDE is really rock-solid, and you can get most of the everyday apps with flathub...

  • @MrOrtmeier
    @MrOrtmeier 6 місяців тому +7

    I went from Ubuntu to Mint when they started all this snap crap. And as soon as Linux Mint Debian Edition 6 came out I installed that and it's terrific.
    I'd rather have a 100% community distro than that corporate based stuff.

  • @user-ps5up3og2h
    @user-ps5up3og2h 7 місяців тому +7

    5:55 - WDYM? Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu LTS which receives point release updates just like Debian, and they both are mostly bug and security fixes, not major feature updates.

    • @hopelessdecoy
      @hopelessdecoy 7 місяців тому

      The Mint team does a good job of features parity too. In most cases you can't really tell Mint and LMDE apart.

  • @MrOrtmeier
    @MrOrtmeier 6 місяців тому +7

    For a new user, I agree, Mint will be slightly easier, especially with proprietary drivers. Having said that, when I installed Linux Mint Debian Edition 6 it automatically installed the correct WiFi driver with no need for me to do anything.
    It's a Broadcom driver which is a pain to find the right one manually but Linux Mint Debian Edition found and installed the correct driver all by itself.

    • @paulyeomans1065
      @paulyeomans1065 5 днів тому

      After comparing various distros on my sacrificial laptop, I plumped for LMDE6 to dual boot with Win11 on my main desktop. I ruled out ubuntu for the reasons stated in the vod, and I've got lost with Arch before, so it had to be a Debian based distro. All went well, got Piper running with my wireless gaming mouse, and then I had to do the one thing I couldn't test on the laptop - install Nvidia drivers. Disaster! You can imagine what it looks like to have a 3840x1200 43inch monitor running LMDE at 1024x768 with no apparent way to change the resolution of my 'unknown monitor'. so, back to the drawing board ...

    • @MrOrtmeier
      @MrOrtmeier 5 днів тому

      @@paulyeomans1065 Nvidia drivers are a real pain in Linux because they are proprietary. You could Google how to install the drivers in Linux Mint Debian Edition and there will be a way.

  • @raza_the_nerd
    @raza_the_nerd 7 місяців тому +7

    LMDE has more updated packages than Ubuntu mint (system packages)

  • @JesperKydster
    @JesperKydster 6 місяців тому +4

    Imho LMDE its a right way for Mint.

  • @michaelwatkins3842
    @michaelwatkins3842 2 місяці тому

    Good video. I’m running LMDE now and absolutely love it. Actually wanted to try Mint but I couldn’t get it to install as a VM in Proxmox.

  • @garynet20
    @garynet20 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for the review, very useful.

  • @LeeMaiden
    @LeeMaiden 6 місяців тому +2

    I had been running Mint's Ubuntu based Cinnamon version(s) since 2011. With 21.2 Cinnamon, my Soundblaster Audigy FX 5.1 card would only do stereo and not 5.1 surround. I ran the Live LMDE 6 and I had surround 5.1 and I love it, So that's what I run now. I changed my other desktop machine to Debian 12 Bookworm Cinnamon, and it runs great as well.

    • @LeeMaiden
      @LeeMaiden 6 місяців тому

      I use FlatPak on LMDE 6 and I have everything I want. I put FlatPak on the Debian 12 Bookworm Cinnamon as well.

  • @NYCamper62
    @NYCamper62 5 місяців тому +2

    I currently dual boot with 21.1 Mint. This whole battle deal with Ubuntu / LMDE has me concerned. Since w/10 eol is 2025 my plan was to learn on Mint & migrate. But now with this & wayland I'm not sure what the heck to do by then. Maybe even dual boot with 11 until they can get their $*** together.

  • @MakeDo-Turner_Smith
    @MakeDo-Turner_Smith 5 місяців тому +2

    I bought a custom built computer from a trusted friend that installed Ubuntu for driver availabiltes.
    I've been using mint for years, and I'm going to be switching to LMDE on all my computers because of canonical's agreesive policies.
    Despite setting updates for two weeks, I'm getting nag screens at least once per day, and often 3!
    Imve lost work despite frequent saves and backups, in window$ like forced reboots while I was away from my desktop.
    I'm highly aware of the need for vigilance for security, but I have final saye say!
    The corporocratic war on ownership and right to repair must be stopped!

  • @Grunfeld
    @Grunfeld 7 місяців тому

    Thank you!🙂

  •  5 місяців тому +1

    I am a newcomer to Linux from W10 and I went straight to LMDE when I did my first installation on bare metal, but after tinkering with several VM's on Ubuntu's Mint. I have been lost at different points, and ready to quit, but I have been able to do the transition...

  • @din_ayam
    @din_ayam 5 місяців тому

    excellent bro...👍👍👍

  • @Dionysor
    @Dionysor 3 дні тому

    the less corpo stuff (being ubuntu) the better. looking forward for LMDE to take the lead 💪

  • @DevotedGamer1
    @DevotedGamer1 7 місяців тому +1

    Good comparison

  • @bryede
    @bryede 7 місяців тому +7

    Well, it's been nice having some of Ubuntu's bells and whistles and compatibility with Ubuntu packages, but moving upstream does seem like the better move for Mint to take control of their destiny.

    • @GoolagThemTube
      @GoolagThemTube 6 місяців тому +4

      Ubuntu is completely lost at this point and Ubuntu based distros are just not the future. Hopefully the Linux Mint team will realize that in the near future.

    • @huntermathias5353
      @huntermathias5353 5 місяців тому +1

      @@GoolagThemTube They have realized that which is why they created LMDE. I imagine that once they get it all worked out and everything that they're probably gonna prioritize debian and make it their primary focus as opposed to the ubuntu version. Honestly it makes alot more sense to do it like that anyway so they don't have to rely on ubuntu and all of that bullshit anymore. I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy or anything but I feel like they're definitely capable of being the best Linux Distro when it comes to being a main OS to use as an actual primary operating system/daily driver for day to day home users.

  • @MrOrtmeier
    @MrOrtmeier 6 місяців тому +3

    Mint WILL definitely have to abandon Ubuntu for sure because canonical want to go all-snaps. Next year they will release an all-snap distro together with the regular iso so they can have thousands of beta testers and when it's 100% ok, they will switch to only all-snaps.

  • @marksulloway5669
    @marksulloway5669 6 місяців тому

    Danke!

  • @volkiruski1221
    @volkiruski1221 21 день тому

    I did use both, I noticed no difference. Yesterday I tried MX but this was not what I thought. My final desicion is LMDE!!

  • @kanyesouth9397
    @kanyesouth9397 7 місяців тому +1

    I really like the arch based l8nux mint. Think it's called manjaro?

    • @theplaymakerno1
      @theplaymakerno1 7 місяців тому +3

      No. Manjaro has nothing to do with Mint or its developers.

  • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
    @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 6 місяців тому +1

    I've been on LMDE since LMDE4, and there's no way t return Ubuntu-based sitros or other distros (MaBox is my Arch-based distro if I had to).

  • @mal.angenommen
    @mal.angenommen 6 місяців тому +1

    Ich finde Fedora 39 sehr interessant.. unter Mint zb hab ich immer irgendwie Probleme games zu starten. Fedora 39 KDE startet hingegen alle Spiele die ich zocken will

  • @rgavel
    @rgavel 7 місяців тому +1

    I have LM 21.2 running on my main desktop, and LMDE6 running on both my secondary desktop and laptop. I'm not surprised LM wants to move away from Ubuntu. I dual-booted Windows and Ubuntu from 2004-2015, but gave up using Ubuntu given the direction they were going and the lousy changes they implemented. After trying out nearly two dozen Linux distros I started using LM full time in 2015. I'll never go back to Windows or Ubuntu. Eventually I'll have LMDE running on all three of my systems.

  • @satagiah
    @satagiah 5 місяців тому

    Now try to install old NVidia drivers on on a laptop with 2 GPUs :/ strugling with this issue for few months now.

  • @dfrozendog3849
    @dfrozendog3849 5 місяців тому +1

    When I found LMDE 4 I stopped looking. It is at 6 now.

  • @user-ti1gx2hy5m
    @user-ti1gx2hy5m 23 дні тому

    so u like Ubuntu i'll do LMDE thanks

  • @melaniezette886
    @melaniezette886 7 місяців тому

    I'm on LMDE and I have seen no difference VS ubuntu base.

  • @dzulrashdi6689
    @dzulrashdi6689 7 місяців тому +1

    I just use appimage

  • @DiegoLinde
    @DiegoLinde 3 місяці тому

    LMDE is a nice gateway distro to Debian.
    Installed LMDE on an old NUC (i3 8GB) and it inspired me to want to install Debian + Gnome.
    If you love Cinnamon - fine, but I prefer Gnome.
    Ultimately, any Linux distro is simply a means to running applications and in that respect I still feel more productive on macOS (OSX). I love the open-source ethos but do wish that the Linux community focused more on efficacity and productivity than multiple Desktop configurability. For e.g. Preview. It's the built-in image viewer. Hit the spacebar and the image pops open which we can easily resize with the option to edit. In Linux, I have to download an image editor and none of them are even as good as this basic built-in one in Preview.

  • @dsjunges
    @dsjunges 5 місяців тому +1

    Flatpack it s a joke. To install Putty it's needed more than 1 GB of disk space. This is insane.

    • @k1ry4n
      @k1ry4n 4 місяці тому

      It takes around 6 MiB...

  • @mikepxg6406
    @mikepxg6406 4 місяці тому

    Obviously NOT

  • @ollicron7397
    @ollicron7397 7 місяців тому

    No; Debian and anything derived from are meant to be SERVER based distributions. The focus of Ubuntu has always been server, the focus of Debian has always been server. Linux mint is ultimately very pointless, how can you try to rip away from Ubuntu and then use Ubuntu repos? It's not a smart move at all. There's a reason that Debian regurgitates the ESR version of FireFox by default.
    Fedora, OpenSUSE, and Arch Linux/Arch Variants are the go to's for systems that are meant for users, with Arch being more tailored for aggressive and experienced Linux users who can fix their own problems. It's literally in their wiki by the way, they don't want to hear about your problems, they want you to post your solutions to them instead. As an added bonus Fedora, and OpenSUSE both bring Gnome 45, which is sleek and new.

    • @hopelessdecoy
      @hopelessdecoy 7 місяців тому +13

      Wait, so you're saying that the upstream to Red Hat Enterprise Linux, the open source version of Suse a literal server company, and I guess I can give you Arch are for desktop but Debian isn't???? It comes with the option for almost every relevant desktop environment and has live CD versions. Ubuntu and Redhat and thier open source versions are almost the EXACT same business model.
      This comment is not based in logic my friend.