A Look At Ubuntu Cinnamon 24.04 (Is This The Linux Mint Killer?)
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- Опубліковано 5 тра 2024
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No, it is not the Linux Mint killer. Linux Mint is the Ubuntu killer.
LMDE is the Ubuntu killer killer
@@MacroAccLove me some Faye.
@@UnwalledGarden what does dat mean
Fedora...
@@MacroAcc Faye is the codename of LMDE 6.
"is this the mint killer" - no it tried to be mint and died trying, twice, on camera.
shows how much effort mint puts into making it all work seamlessly.
Yeah I love how Mint works seamlessly--until I try to update the damned thing. Then yuk.
It's FOSS... Be glad it exists at all.
If you think it's so easy then why don't you learn how to make an entire operating system and then contribute your labor for free, lol... I'm sure the devs are trying their best.
@@ericv738 "Easy", can you show me where i said this?
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@milentiusgaming
2 hours ago
"is this the mint killer" - no it tried to be mint and died trying, twice, on camera.
shows how much effort mint puts into making it all work seamlessly.
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@@cejannuzi works on my machine
@@cejannuzi works on my machine
Cinnamon DE looks great, but unsurprisingly, works better on Mint than any other distro.
Installer always crash when polish language is selected - server py errors.
Appcenter is unable to update system - snapd errors😂😂
Great release.
Tested on real hardware like always
And to add onto that: 9:02
That software store snap not being able to update is the worst bug they added when starting with snaps. On top of slow-to-start apps of course and the massive number of mount points shown with findmnt.
Every fresh Ubuntu 22.04 install (even the later point releases like 22.04.4) had the same first-boot update of the store which was unable to be completed without killing the store and running sudo snap refresh.
horrible user experience xD
@@frankhuurman3955 Wow thats still a bug? Thats been hippity hairy balls as well
killall snap-store
sudo snap refresh snap-store
@@frankhuurman3955 findmnt with tons of loop devices are the basis of how snaps work. About slow-to-start - it depends on the HW, because they're constantly working on making squashfs + lzo faster and faster ;)
This self-update needs to be fixed, sure. At least from my side - I use snaps from CLI :D
I switched to LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition) last year. Quite happy with it. I'll keep using it as long as I can.
After I distro hopped for 2 years I decided to stay with Debian or Debian based distros. Because I don't have the time nor patience to tinker with my OS anymore.
Should become their default base.
@@Flavor_Flav LMDE actually failed me when using MT5. Some things not working, as usual in any linux setup haha
Even after the bugs have been worked out I'll be sticking with Mint. Mint has many years experience at being Mint and has been polished to the point of being diamond-like.
Mint is based on ubuntu.
@@BobStallmanArchUser minus the garbage.
@@BobStallmanArchUser Forest for the trees
9:02 lol
So it's not a Mint killer, Ubuntu Cinnamon kills itself
Ubuntu used "copy", it hurt itself in its confusion.
VM? I'd use this over Mint anyday. Mint software is way too old and outdated.
OpenGL acceleration needed :)
Well this is interesting. Was thinking on wake up why I value our Linux Mint daily drivers, and was shocked to find we've been using Mint since 2016. In that time we've had stability, dependability and usability thanks to the Cinnamon desktop. As good as Ubuntu is, I do think we'll stay with Mint.
Rhythmbox and a number of other Gnome4 programs now apparently require OpenGL. If 3D acceleration and OpenGL is activated for the VM they should no longer crash the system. Recently observed the same when trying Ubuntu Mate 24.04 in a VM.
Yes, they need either OpenGL or Vulkan :)
I am glad you found these issues. There is still some work to be done on the Ubuntu cinnamon edition. Hopefully, they will make a stable version available in a few months. 👍🏼
lol - Betteridge’s law prevails! Good vid DT 👍
The theme and wallpaper look pretty nice.
I didn't know that Ubuntu had the Cinnamon flavour.
It’s relatively recent with the revival of unity and edubuntu
@@alejandromendozaprieto7108 Thanks.
@@alejandromendozaprieto7108 Thanks.
@@alejandromendozaprieto7108 it's not actually recent, it's been just recently made official
A bit sad, but oh well, I'm sure the devs are trying their best!
Ubuntu putting a Cinnamon desktop on top doesn't make it a Linux Mint killer. Not even close.
As a 20+ year disto hopper linux mint is top tier polished and likely the best choice for new users. Ubuntu is a good choice for a more experienced linux user that wants the more prolific choice in software availability.
I'll keep using linux mint cinnamon.
It looks nice. If this had existed back in the day then I might still be with Ubuntu. But I've made my home in Mint now. I like where I'm at and I'm not going anywhere.
Hi, i would like to ask you for an advice. I'm a Windows user and recently i've made the decision to transition to Linux but i can't decide what distribution is the best for me due to the sheer amount of positive and negative opinions about every distribution. My system is a Ryzen 5 2600 paired with 16gb of ram and a GTX 1050 Ti. I only use my computer for browsing the web and i don't play video games. I need a long term stable distribution for daily use. Do you have any suggestions? Thank you in advance.
Since no one more knowledgeable has replied ... I'm in the same box, no pun intended. After a good bit of research and a couple hours testing from USB on an old desktop PC, I'm liking Mint LDME. I was pleasantly surprised at how much just worked as I expected it to. It reminds me of Win 10. Many things are better and more customizable; a few, not so much. I have a lot of experience with Linux Ubuntu Server, but limited experience with Linux on the desktop. I'm planning to run Bottles and/or Wine for a few Windows apps that have no native version available. Specifically, the Affinity suite of apps. No clue how that will go, but I'm hopeful! Hopefully someone with more experience will chime in. Good luck!
I have the problem (process:9917):libsoup-ERROR **: 22:12:25.668: libsoup2 symbols detected. Using libsoup2 and libsoup3 in the same process is not supported. Trace/breakpoint trap(core dumped)
This occurs when I write "gnome-control-center" to terminal. I can't open settings, I can't connect to my Ethernet. Cannot use WI-FI. I'm hopeless, please someone help me. I've tried to remove libsoup3.0-0 and libsoup3.0-common, but that didn't help me.
Appreciate any help.
Thanks for showing everyone the glorious Cinnamon DE 😂 Now that this is out of the way, Mate and XFCE are here waiting to catch you 😊
nothing beats the easy startup apps setup (autostart) in cinnamon
The thing is, mint isn't just a desktop. It has an array of system applications and wrappers that are simply better than the Ubuntu equivalent if Ubuntu even has an equivalent.
8:50 I don't think transmission is part of gnome software. Is it?
I don't think so.
linux-mint is leader of development team of cinnamon desktop and there are exists features is exclusive only in linux-mint.
Ubuntu cinnamon is a traditional version from Ubuntu have cinnamon de like Debian and other's distros.
It's about OpenGL acceleration needed since GTK4, those crashes started from 9:02 :)
Let's face it. There are distros that brings out the best implementation of their main DE. Mint Team did the best for Cinnamon. Ubuntu is not up to par.
*Linux Mint:* 🤭
Rhythmbox opens just fine on Linux Mint 21.3 "Edge" installation. The Rhythmbox version is 3.4.4.
*What a nice distro :D Ubuntu with broken Cinnamon themes. I WANT IT XDDDDD.*
The only reason to use Cinnamon is the Menta theme, which was in earlier Mint distros, but it is broken.
I'd rather go with Mint Edge (kernel 6.5), but since it has plenty of bugs with Flatpak apps like Skype (session not saving), Telegram (can't register autostart because of D-Bus and portal problems), and a red dmesg log (thanks to my mobo and new hardware), I will stay with classic Ubuntu 24.04, which is unbeatable in every aspect among all distros in the world.
I recommend installing regular Ubuntu and manually installing cinnamon afterwards. (Or use Mint or some other distro with cinnamon)
Ubuntu cinnamon looks like it’s not maintained very well.
All we need is a polished MX with cinnamon.
Nah to the "Mint Killer." Some Gnome apps looked out of place with the bright white theme and noticed Nautilus used as a file chooser on something you showed. Maybe when Mint 22 drops the devs will have some options to port over for more consistency in style.
Mint downgraded the apps that used libAdwaita, I believe.
btop > htop 😏
btop is pretty neat
I have a system76 laptop bought directly from them with nothing altered, no additional PPAs, but I still have my old laptop due to it having an SD card reader and DVD drive. That had Ubuntu Studio on it for years until an update not only shoved snaps on it, but wiped the settings and configurations for the deb applications I'd been accustom to using for so long, and made 8gb RAM look and feel like a 1gb Vista basic from a disposable laptop originally made in 2006.
Now it has LMDE Cinnamon on it which has been working more stable and faster than when Ubuntu Studio was on it before and after Ubuntu Studio updated to proprietary code without my consent. Now with KDE plasma that runs even smoother and better than before, with a nice '90s retrofuturism OS GUI.
"Why wait for the future, when you can build it today!"
- '80s corporate yupster.
Oh, yeah. Every wants a snap-bloated Cinnamon.
sudo apt purge snapd
@@MacroAccIt's not that simple.
@@Ben-hg3bz said by a true ubuntu user
Snap is a package manager for lazy people who don't want to read text files and man pages, and learn Linux properly.
Cinnamon is a desktop environment for people that like wasting valuable CPU cycles on unnecessary eye candy. (Probably the same lazy people that never read text files.)
The two are therefore not related - not that I use either (given I am not lazy, know how to use native package managers properly, and don't like wasting CPU cycles just to post my desktop screenshots on Reddit).
@@Ben-hg3bz sudo apt-mark hold snapd is the next step.
I hope for Budgie next! :-)
Fedora with KDE works fine for me. Tried Ubuntu Cinnamon, seemed real laggy to me.
10:52 why not wezterm?
Looks like they have some debugging to do yet. Hardly a surprise on a new release.
Why would anybody want Mint with the snaps added back in ??... The whole point of Mint was to remove snap.
Some people actually like snaps but also like the Cinnamon environment. Unfortunately, there are way too many ubuntu flavors that are as DT says "one man garage distros". Cinnamon, Budgie, Mate and Unity need to be canned. Quality, not quantity.
"The whole point of Mint was to remove snap." So you heard about Mint five minutes ago
Sorry to double post but I can confirm the rhythm box error after it's installed both in a virtualbox and on real hardware (Asus laptop), the same identical error message DT got. It works fine if just using the guest iso without installing it though.
Have you installed nvidia drivers on that laptop? rhythmbox requires hardware acceleration in 24.04.
Pointless spin. Better ubuntu cinnamon is called Mint.
12:12 Vim/Htop are nice to have but not critical. VI/Top will be installed in 99* percent of distributions. And most people using a distro like ubuntu will use the task manager they provide.
9:02 Hmm weird that did not happen to me at all, virtual or metal
I think the Linux Mint version of Cinnamon is better. The Debian version is also very good. I would not use this because it has Snap which I don't like. Also it doesn't seem very stable with all of the crashes.
Cinnamon is made by linux mint
@@iWisp360 Yes it is but Ubuntu have tweaked it and added things like Snaps to it. But from what I can see of it it's not as good as Linux Mint's version. There are a lot of bugs as the media players keep on crashing and they shouldn't be. If it's an LTS release then everything should be working.
The team that made mint also made Cinnamon.
@@hanro50 Yes they did and I think the Linux Mint version of Cinnamon is better than the Ubuntu Cinnamon. But that's just my preference.
I tried mint, it was trash. I cannot get it to work with multiple monitors on my laptop.
Ubuntu. One and the only main distro that gives me headaches every time i install it, every version i try. Intel CPU, AMD GPU. Be it problems with customized environment, pulseaudio/pipewire, broken Steam DEB in repositories (22.04 and 23.10 intentional?), crashing SNAPs or now with 24.04 black screen on clean install. I want my system to be widely used, usable and well maintained. Alas, Ubuntu does not meet my expectations. Currently trying Bazzite - It is great, be it heavily customized and immutable. But I know that LMDE or pure Debian loaded with flatpaks can stop my distrohopping for a long time.
Ubuntu become Windoof, first time a see a Linux break, thank you so much, i know now what to avoid to install for my wife.
The eternal indecision on all Linux, you choose dark themes & you get half dark & half bright, for-all with Gtk, that's old relict of CSS (client side decoration). Gtk is condemn to die if not change.
Tried it 12 hours ago and it felt not complete couldn't even change language. And minimal install still gives you bloat apps 😂
The only real difference between distros is the wallpaper.
It's not killer for me. Even installing this in virt-manager - install fails and booting after install remains 100% CPU stuck on boot. That's a no from me.
For Cinnamon only Mint or LMDE. Or Fedora 40.
cinnamon makes MX more usable
Those crashes are really weird...
1st time I see linux crashing!!
It seems they have improved Snap startup times which is neat
Yes, they did worked hard on that. Not only this - snapd and snapcraft (used to create snaps) is open source under GPLv3 license.
@@d3stinYwOw Yeah that's great. I know some people don't like Snaps but I personally do.
Ubuntu is like a tempered glass on your precious AMOLED screen or you can choose to use your vulnerable precious screen without a tempered glass it's a matter of choice. I use Ubuntu Gnome but I use flatpaks and had a minimal installation so that I can personalize it my way and there's a reason why all this bunch of little smart OS's are based on Ubuntu.
this is NOT better than linux mint
There are many reasons why I switched to BSD. Ubuntu is one of those.
no version of Ubuntu ever works out of the box flawless on my hardware. I keep trying to like Ubuntu, but ... I will stick to Mint, thank you very much.
Not many complaints I see here
i like watching 18 minutes in 2 minutes
Debian 12 Cinamon or LM Cinamon Debian
I wouldnt say killer if what lm 22 gonna feature is happening
What we’re all waiting for is the new POP OS Rust-based Cosmic Desktop. The Alpha should soon be ready. 😊
As long as they impose crap like snaps on users it's mint that's gonna kill them.
The theming is very inconsistent. Firefox is white, calculator is. I hate that. If you're using a dark theme everything should open with the dark theme. 24.04 is a buggy mess. Better wait for the point release.
Xubuntu with i3-gap kills a lot.
Sorry to Upset Yout,but not on this Time,Linux MInt is Lightyears Ahead from Canonical,as they consider a a Partnership,when this Ends,Debian will still there,the power of the Swirl.
Screw SNAPs.
I love snaps
Screw haters of any technology :)
I have been a Mint user for 5 years now, for me at least, Mint replaces Ubuntu, but one possible use case for Ubuntu is if you dont like the desktops available from Mint.
But Ubuntu Cinnamon? Not sure why they bothered? It has to have a very small user base.
Unity drove me away from ubuntu to mint. Now snaps keep me away from the buntu family
This is based on Debian Cinnamon. Why not use Debian Cinnamon instead? I understand this is a demonstration, but generally speaking this Spin is not needed when there is Linux Mint Cinnamon Edition, Linux Mint Cinnamon Debian Edition and Debian 12 Cinnamon.
I have got Debian 12 Cinnamon and I have not had any problems at all. So I don't know why everything is crashing on the Ubuntu version. It shouldn't be like that. Maybe Rythmbox and Totem are the Snap versions. That could be why.
@@AndreaBorman I'd say so as well. I don't use Snaps so I can't verify your comment but generally speaking, I'd say Snaps aren't very reliable so this doesn't make Ubuntu Cinnamon appealing, at all.
@@Parvez01358 Ubuntu should give you a choice of if you want Snaps but they don't. It is part of the system so if you remove it it breaks Ubuntu. With Debian which I am using, it's there in the repositories ,if you want to install it, but you don't have to. It's the same with Flatpak you won't get it unless you choose to install it. Linux Mint does not use Snap and Flatpak is not part of Mint so can be removed. With Ubuntu it's another story. You cannot remove Snap without breaking the system. Also this version looks like there are a lot of bugs from what I see in the video. I would not use this desktop. If I want Cinnamon I will use Debian Cinnamon. There are no problems with that at all. Linux Mint Cinnamon is also a good choice. Just stick with those two.
No.
not a great crash
lol what a trash release
I am staying away from Canonical AKA Microsoft's secret company to destroy Linux from within. If there wasn't LMDE I would be using Debian with Cinnamon.
5:01 5:10 _"i hate that they rename everything"_
righto :)
7:03 i am moving to linux to be free... this ubuntu renaming crap seems to be worse than microsoft dumbing users down.
The DE is not the problem with Ubuntu... lol
I wonder why where is very few on raspberry pi?
If you entered $ vi then it says vim or you could just install it if you need to. Alacritty seems complicated to install you have to Rust compile? Doesn't Gnome-terminal use gpu acceleration too? Ok thanks for going thru it...
Ubuntu Cinnamon is just a shadow of the real thing which is Linux Mint Cinnamon.
I don't much like Mint with Cinnamon. But it is nice that Ubuntu comes in so many official flavors.
ubuntunamon
anime plus ubuntu + cinnamon + hannah montana uwuntunamontana , i hav autisuzm
Why is htop any better than system monitor? And why is vim any better than gedit?
Thanks buntu but I'm no longer a linux newb.
Just installe ubuntu studio, it installed plasma as desktop. I thought the default was gnome. Looking good at the mo.
I hit the floor, Cinnamon always kinda of looks like Cinnamon hahaha got me there 🤣
So which "brainiac" invented "yaml" when flat text files have been perfectly fine for configuring UNIX applications for decades?
Gnome FTW!
not as long as Ubuntu pushes snaps. if there is a snap free version of Ubuntu Cinnamon 24.04 then that would be another story.
there basically will be soon enough, when mint 22 (based on 24.04) drops
Already giving Ubuntu Cinnamon a try, well let's just say if anything it's pushed me more to LMDE.
The moment I saw the title I knew the comment section is going to be triggered.
HTop is EoL. Distros are doing the right thing to not include it (if they choose not to). There are other fetch scripts including HTop clones that are actively supported.
"HTop is EoL" no it isn't.
Maybe sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade is needed
Sorry, Mint every time.
Linus Mink Cinnamon functions beautifully and so does Ubuntu GNOME 46.0,
No, it's still Ubuntu and for that reason it's no better than Mint
Just say no to snaps.
So . . . long story short it's Linux Mint with telemetry. . . . I'm not an Ubuntu hater , I love Ubuntu and have a buntu box , it's just that mint is so well tuned up that I don't see the need for a cinnamon Ubuntu .
qa tester dt, they need to hire you
it's a trash. lol
Better than the thing 🙂