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Food for Thought - The Meaning Behind The Menu

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  • Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
  • Hey guys, thanks so much for clicking on this video! I hope you enjoyed this video essay / explanation over The Menu and please let me know your thoughts in the comments below over your takeaways from this film. I try to make analysis type videos over movies and I have a few lined up in the future that I think will be some bangers, so stay tuned. Once again, thank you so much, I love you all, and I genuinely hope that you have a great rest of your day : )
    Music Used:
    Drackfreeee - Innocence of Walter (Silent Hill Inspired Music)
    Silent Hill 2 OST - A World of Madness (Vaporwave Edit)
    Silent Hill 4 OST - Results Music
    Survival Spheres - Channeling (Alternate Silent Hill Music)
    Survival Spheres - Encapsulation (Alternate Resident Evil Music)
    TaintedTownMusic - Lady Maria

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  • @TrainingWithThomas
    @TrainingWithThomas Рік тому +114

    :Spoiler warning:
    To point out at the end of the movie Margot lives because she is not just a taker like everyone else but also provides. She referenced that she likes her work in being a call girl. So in a symbiotic way, she gave the chef satisfaction in enjoying preparing her meal and he also gave her the satisfaction of pleasing her 'customer' in him. He recognizes her for that and lets her live.
    Honestly think the inhumane animal harvesting for our food is a far reach and not a tie in to the movie. Agree with your other points though.

    • @monkieri2
      @monkieri2 Рік тому

      Yeah the analysis in this video is shallow as a sauce pan lmao

  • @Dachusttin
    @Dachusttin 10 місяців тому

    Very veru good and precise essay

  • @jimangela4589
    @jimangela4589 Рік тому +125

    I like the part where the men get to experience what it is like to be hunted. In the world of hunting the male is the most prized.

    • @goawayleavemealone2880
      @goawayleavemealone2880 Рік тому

      Typical Feminist - Man = Easy Mode.
      It's annoying how much we excuse the $hitty behaviour of women, I'm so sick of constant preaching about "Toxic Masculinity" - which doesn't exist. Find a personality already.

  • @mrebear9758
    @mrebear9758 Рік тому +34

    I never understood why Tyler was intent on taking photos against instructions when he knew he was going to die. Wasn't exactly going to get a chance to look at them, and they stated there was no phone reception so he couldn't upload them to social media.

    • @leeahnnakenny
      @leeahnnakenny Рік тому +8

      in my mind it’s probably because he has imagined this moment countless times of finally be able to go and eat there and he planned it out that he would capture pictures of the moment

    • @descartes_8696
      @descartes_8696 Рік тому +15

      @@leeahnnakenny This, and in my opinion, he thought his insufferable sycophantic ways would get him out of the inevitable fate of everyone. He’s that pretentious that he saw himself being able to talk his way out of it.

    • @AW-uv3cb
      @AW-uv3cb Рік тому +3

      @@descartes_8696 yes, you can see it in the scene where the men are told to run and he stays in his place with the women. Not because he identifies with them or wants to protect them - he simply thinks that it doesn't apply to him and that he can be the spectator because he can "understand" the chef's vision. When told to run as well, he treats it like fun: oh, right, I'm supposed to play too, how fun, audience participation!

  • @justwatching2428
    @justwatching2428 Рік тому +30

    Can we talk about sexual harassment, the kitchen knife through the thigh echoing the abusive father, the fact that Slowicks harassment can be read to have lead to the whole idea of everyone dies from Katherine, the victim of Slowicks harassment.

    • @monkieri2
      @monkieri2 Рік тому +9

      I think it's just there to allude to yet another rampant issue with the food and service industry (there are many relevant to the film but most are not necessarily the main point)

    • @monkieri2
      @monkieri2 Рік тому +4

      I do wonder what the behind the scenes making of this dinner was like though 🤣 all the sous chefs sitting around discussing like you know what would end this night nicely? If we all died

    • @twiceshy9773
      @twiceshy9773 Рік тому +3

      @@monkieri2 and they still got tipped too!!😂😂

  • @jazzanaiyah
    @jazzanaiyah Рік тому +12

    This perspective is dope. I didn’t think about it this way

  • @rawrrrsaysthelion
    @rawrrrsaysthelion Рік тому +33

    Very interesting take on it. This movie seems to have more layers than I thought. Great video, so well put together too!

  • @Robin_0011
    @Robin_0011 Рік тому +3

    Best explanation of the movie I've yet watched

  • @gromfromunderthepalm4112
    @gromfromunderthepalm4112 Рік тому +9

    The irony of your review..of this movie...no one every speaks of the mother sitting at the table not eating only drinking..

  • @SPHATROLL
    @SPHATROLL Рік тому +7

    What a fantastic video. No waffling, just straight to the point.

  • @stevofoo
    @stevofoo Рік тому +33

    I was a chef for 7 years, worked in fine dining restaurant as well. This movie brings back a lot of memories...
    It's a sad movie....
    Chef is a not easy job, a lot of of chefs, cooks have mental problem, additive to drug and alcohol. Well, there are many not so easy jobs, like police, nurse, doctor and so on.
    What ever you do, be happy, enjoy your life.

  • @valeriaquiles2733
    @valeriaquiles2733 Рік тому +11

    Amazing video! I have seen a few other takes on this movie but I love this perspective on it. Thank you for taking the time to put it all together for us!!!

  • @Macey88
    @Macey88 Рік тому +22

    I don’t think Riply survived just because she was the “pure girl” boiling her down to that troupe takes away a lot of her personality and strips her of her character agency. That purity troupe didn’t really have anything to do with Alien until like the 3rd movie (but that one sucks and shouldn’t have been made)

    • @ikhanic9837
      @ikhanic9837  Рік тому +1

      Well, Alien is a fantastic movie and it does add a lot to Ripley's character but her survival is still an example of the trope. Now you can say the execution of the trope is much better than other horror movies which is entirely fair, but it's still an example of the trope nonetheless. I'm not saying they had her survive just because they wanted to fit this horror convention, but it's still an example of the trope playing out in a well known horror movie. Thanks for watching!

    • @zachanikwano
      @zachanikwano Рік тому +3

      Also, wasn’t alien written with no reference to the characters genders? Ripely just happened to end up as a woman. It was chance more than anything, then she powered on through.
      If any other character had swapped jobs with her they’d have probably survived.

    • @namedrop721
      @namedrop721 Рік тому +2

      This is where he doesn’t know any movie lore. They cut the sex scenes with Ripley and Dallas for distracting from the main tension and drama which became about the alien.
      Also he’s just wrong about Ripley. 😂

    • @AW-uv3cb
      @AW-uv3cb Рік тому

      @@ikhanic9837 Ripley is not a good example of the trope because at no point any emphasis is placed on that aspect of her, or on other characters NOT being like that. We don't know anything about her sexual history, nor that of the others - she may have had plenty of lovers before, the others might as well be virgins for all we know. She just happens to be a woman who survived, and what were the chances of that - about 50% right? You can't say she's an example of a "pure girl" based solely on the fact that she's "a girl". It only becomes a trope when the story makes some reference to that aspect: like we see other other characters engaging in sexual behaviours but this one character is shown to refuse that.
      In the same way I think it's reductive to say that Margo/Erin being a sex worker just panders to the trend of subverting tropes. Her being a hired sex worker plays logically into the narrative structure. If she was just Tyler's friend that he invited, she'd likely come from the same privileged background as him (how many working class people is he likely to know?) and the plot wouldn't make sense anymore, which makes it something more than just a plot.

  • @manabuinsf
    @manabuinsf Рік тому +10

    Great video! I have watched so many videos about “The Menu” on UA-cam and most of them are very similar. But your video is so original that it blew my mind. So refreshing! Thank you for the thought-provoking video!

  • @bringace
    @bringace Рік тому +2

    Good job! Good analysis. I saw it like this on two points: tyler was asked to do what he did by the chef either directly or inderectly ; at the end she takes a bite and then cleans her mouth with the menu, stressing the already established meaning of the film. Thanks for the "food", keep up the good work!

  • @slim..reaper
    @slim..reaper Рік тому +6

    This video was SO insightful. It really put everything into perspective. I too felt bad for the people but I shouldn’t just cause they are human

  • @MrNikeGolf1
    @MrNikeGolf1 Рік тому +1

    The menu is a movie about passion, love, obsession, degradation, hate, sadness, status, jealousy. Every emotion is in this movie. It’s a great movie. Truly great

  • @keturahspencer
    @keturahspencer Рік тому +5

    There's definitely an element of The Emperor's New Clothes to this. Also, Margot may not be innocent of intemacy, but she is innocent of the sin that matters in this film.

  • @BoBty7
    @BoBty7 Рік тому

    my favorite review/explanation

  • @jasmincayanong_1998
    @jasmincayanong_1998 Рік тому +13

    Remember that the chef orders to cut the Husband's ring finger in front of his wife? Adultery.

  • @CBlade0
    @CBlade0 Рік тому +1

    Food, drink, and sleep are our most fundamental, essential needs in life -- beyond even happiness, shelter, or sex. So making a commentary against people who either need to 'consume' (or, eat and enjoy) like Margot, or they like the artistry of unique food creation, doesn't seem to matter to me, I suppose. I struggle to make sense of this other than at the superficial level of a burnt out cook who doesn't enjoy his career anymore and wants to make others pay for it.
    But I appreciate your thoughts since they seem to bring together some of the scattered ideas of the movie.

  • @philipdraper7284
    @philipdraper7284 Рік тому +3

    I think it just has to do with the metatextual commodification and interpretation of art that is needlessly shoved down our throats daily, with more and more people attempting to find a more superfluous version of the art to interpret as it also raises their social station, considerably. In effect, separating themselves from the unclean masses who “don’t get it”. But the film shows even a burger flipper can sell out to cater to this negative offshoot of our profit-focused/neo-classist society.

  • @theunironicboomerang
    @theunironicboomerang Рік тому +5

    Nothing to back up your animal farming hypothesis.

  • @PersepolisPF
    @PersepolisPF Рік тому +4

    What a brilliantly original, eerie, dark, disturbing yet ironically funny film about classism, the elites and how their pompous sense of entitlement and superiority to all of us common peasants can and does suck the joy, sanity, and yes, humanity out of all of us who don’t live in the rarefied air that the 1% of the population occupies… 👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
    A great movie that I will definitely see a couple more times and one that I’ll be thinking about for weeks to come, which to me is the hallmark of an exceptionally unique film- keeps me engaged and enthralled while I’m watching it and long after it’s over… 👍🏻👍🏻😍😍
    I highly recommend this incisive, chilling commentary on classism and the elite- the second best film of the year for me after TÁR.

  • @moisesdominguez8198
    @moisesdominguez8198 Рік тому +3

    Whole food plant based dieter here. Quick point, you reference to animal cruelty . No matter what food we eat living creatures were killed, the vegetables and fruits I eat come at the expense of borrowing animals, snails , worms you name it. What the plowing machines won’t kill the pesticides will. We all kill to eat.

  • @FerryMountain
    @FerryMountain Рік тому +6

    First of all love your video! Second, I wrote a short story that is... very similar... to say the least lol

  • @vassilis_z6642
    @vassilis_z6642 Рік тому +1

    its a tortilla

  • @sonnenscheinbedoya42
    @sonnenscheinbedoya42 Рік тому +6

    for moments i thought it was about goverment and how narrow the perspective of every individual really is...

  • @josefk7437
    @josefk7437 Рік тому

    Margot looks a lot like an alien. She functions as one in the world of wealthy foodies.

  • @cathymendoza9328
    @cathymendoza9328 Рік тому +1

    The actor who play the chef is really good!! and what a amazing perspective you have.

  • @joetraveler5609
    @joetraveler5609 Рік тому +2

    ❤❤❤

  • @josefk7437
    @josefk7437 Рік тому

    I thought the meaning was about becoming a master of any creative or artistic profession. It seems to be a lot like the "A Game of Pool" episode of The Twilight Zone. This seems to show what kinds of jerks people deal with when in any artistic profession. There are art critics and fans, movie critics and fans and music critics or fans who are like the asshole customers at the restaurant.

  • @JoeyMartz
    @JoeyMartz Рік тому +3

    I did not get the anti slaughterhouse message at all. I took it (film's message) as mankind's lack of appreciation for artists and their craft. Also, when artists are no longer inspired and FEEL hopeless, helpless and hapless.

  • @THEMOVIEBAE
    @THEMOVIEBAE Рік тому +4

    Tyler was so annoying lol. I missed how he died. I just saw him walk away and never returned 😂

    • @bebeamc
      @bebeamc Рік тому

      He hang himself

    • @williammccormick984
      @williammccormick984 Рік тому

      You see him hanging in a backroom when the chef takes Erin to get the barrel.

  • @LC-qp7pr
    @LC-qp7pr Рік тому +2

    The ultimate irony is that this is a movie lovers movie.

  • @m.hollander7244
    @m.hollander7244 Рік тому

    I'm not even going to delve into my personal opinion; this is legitimately just the average fine dining restaurant, if you view this film as a harsh ctitique of the industry. my job in a fine dining restaurant is literally killing me one cardiac emergency after another, but i still have nightmares aout osing the PacoJet blade years ago. This industry is toxic and we need to fucking address it.

  • @megatron8461
    @megatron8461 Рік тому

    Thou shalt not conform!!

  • @angelwolf5756
    @angelwolf5756 Рік тому

    But I believe our ancestors it was necessity to animals for survival look at nature itself does the nature care when the hunt begins from the humans from this generation have turned food into a circus instead of reminding that they need to survive by eating is a necessity, not luxury

  • @spareless3694
    @spareless3694 Рік тому +1

    This film commentary puts you in Tyler's category. Think about that :) So many reach points. There was no classism because all of them can afford to get there. They are all simply ingredients of the ruin the chef's art.

  • @robertdoran2976
    @robertdoran2976 Рік тому

    It was thrillimg I rooted for Margo.But the idea of all that death which was murder btw ,suicicide too yeah thats what it was. It left a bad taste in my mouth.

  • @blondefisk
    @blondefisk Рік тому

    "Clearly not pure...".... Eck

  • @camaradiop3731
    @camaradiop3731 Рік тому +2

    6:54
    She's still "pure", however, through her lower class status...
    😊

  • @monkieri2
    @monkieri2 Рік тому

    Sure The Menu is about classism in a vague sense but it is about the food service industry specifically. I came across @thecollectress posts about the service industry on instagram lately and it feels relevant. The service industry is the only place where it's acceptable to exchange money for total control over another person. Since it's about the "experience" and tips and not just a straightforward exchange, service workers lose autonomy and are exploited. The dinner here subverts that in a lot of ways, from the staff saying "no", to chefs total control over the meal, to not accepting tips in the end. It highlights how people treat restaurant workers with no respect or dignity. It also centers art and the way we treat artists in society, showing that even as a celebrity chef, the Chef's art isn't respected but picked apart and disparaged. Many of the rich guests try to leverage money and authority to get their way even when their demands are completely unreasonable. The institution of hospitality causes many people to want to wield that power. We follow a contract of service that is perverted and wrong. Since money is involved people seem to believe that anything can be bought. We forget that the people serving us have control over us as well. I believe that in the end Margot takes advantage of a different contract of service work to free herself. She asks for what she wants instead of ordering him through a proxy. She addresses him as a person and works with him to sve the issue without using the power structure the service industry artificially creates. Her request to have her food to go is a smart and polite request which he is happy to grant her. I think it's underemphasized how simply easing up and doing what none of the other guests could do wins her her freedom. In a sense all she had to do to leave was ask. I think about the moment early in the movie where Margot wants to leave Tyler but when confronted by the chef she doesn't even ask for the way out. They are kept trapped by politeness, the problematic facade of class. None of the guests could have spoken so bluntly to the chef. They would have gone home and leave a bad review. Politeness plays a big role in, as the Chef asks, why the patrons never tried to fight back. They are used to being served and have no idea what to do when they are forced to fend for themselves. They have given up their power to the elhsion of superiority. Not only that, but they have lost all sense of class consciousness.

  • @adamtang1922
    @adamtang1922 Рік тому +1

    Nice analysis man. And thanks for not just retelling the movie like so many other people do :)

  • @aidandavis7657
    @aidandavis7657 Рік тому

    Let's not understate the role that Lillian Bloom plays in the destruction of his art. Sure, she writes reviews that shut down restaurants and destroy livelihoods, and that is her elitism. However, she also has a fair bit of intellectual elitism. What I mean is that she values the overly complicated and egotistical/narcissistic food of the chef, and does so because she wants to be a part of that niche. If you don't understand the food, you're a commoner, just not intellectually literate enough to understand the genius behind the art, which you see a lot of in modern art in general. From the terrible dissonance and atonality of modern orchestral music to the terrible paintings and sculptures as well as architecture, the unnecessary elevation of these mediums into spheres of intellectual narcissism does great harm to the mediums themselves. Yes, the artists are to blame, as well as the consumer and media but do not forget the critics, the intellectuals, and the academics who go out of their way to undermine good art and to empower the trash we see today.

  • @eric1138
    @eric1138 Рік тому +1

    The commentary on class is quite apparent but on the meat industry as well? Really? Your reaching so hard it does not even rise to the level of being tenuous.

  • @jreid2593
    @jreid2593 Рік тому

    This movie is genius

  • @nosticker4u862
    @nosticker4u862 Рік тому

    Noooooooot seeing how this is a critique of the meat industry

  • @LC-qp7pr
    @LC-qp7pr Рік тому

    It is very much not a given that she survives.

  • @Highlife-expo
    @Highlife-expo 2 місяці тому

    Is this a vegan activism or a movie analysis
    You missed the entire point
    You are vegan bro

  • @RainyMelbourne
    @RainyMelbourne Рік тому

    It's just bad, come on

  • @andrewfogel591
    @andrewfogel591 Рік тому

    not super satisfied with you analysis, and only 5 mins in. It is shallow and it is clear that your perspective of this movie is quite narrow.

    • @kdelka81
      @kdelka81 Рік тому

      Surely, you have gathered your thoughts and performed the labor to express them in an artistic and entertaining way. If you could provide a link to view your work so we can all compare, that would be great.

    • @williammccormick984
      @williammccormick984 Рік тому

      @@kdelka81 Some people don't give a shit about making videos for their own egos.

    • @kdelka81
      @kdelka81 Рік тому

      @@williammccormick984 That's an interesting interpretation of the intent of the creator of the channel.

    • @williammccormick984
      @williammccormick984 Рік тому

      @@kdelka81 So is your tired and boring argument that everyone who comments on a UA-cam video needs to be a content creator.

    • @kdelka81
      @kdelka81 Рік тому

      @williammccormick984 For being tired and boring, you're ego is interested enough.

  • @sanegayguy
    @sanegayguy Рік тому +2

    It's funny how this is a topic that most I can say western countries will feel depressed over when they actually hear about it. Islam teaches its followers the ins and outs on how to raise livestock humanely, we even have specific methods on slaughtering the animals which include : never do the slaughtering in front of the other animals, always use a sharp knife, etc etc. I don't feel guilt at all eating meat in my country, because the ones I eat are prepared by Muslims in the Halal way, another reason I don't feel guilt is because I know livestock were made for this, they don't have thoughts or aspirations like humans, to think so has to be the biggest disconnect from reality, even more than rich people

  • @HakuYuki001
    @HakuYuki001 Рік тому +5

    The comment section missed the nuance of the critique of the meat industry.
    There’s a difference between consuming animals and the meat industry.
    From a rural perspective, eating meat is relatively rare due to the lack of quantity.
    Therefore they have a greater awareness of where their food comes from and the difficulty of acquiring it.
    The meat industry completely flips the scenario.
    Meat is in abundance. Easily consumed three meals a day.
    You have no clue where it came from.
    The suffering and pain it represents.
    No clue about the Labour involved in acquiring it.
    You have no appreciation for the lives that you consume every meal.
    You may not be upper class.
    But thanks to the meat industry you certainly experience an aspect of it.

    • @kdelka81
      @kdelka81 Рік тому

      I appreciate your perspective. I would like you to consider that it's not necessarily a lack of appreciation for the suffering, rather an ignorance to it. And those that aren't ignorant to it aren't necessarily unappreciative of it, but at a loss as to what to do about it. One can say the most moral thing to do would be to not eat meat at all, but that's an ableist take as it requires abilities many pple lack. To be vegan or vegetarian requires either access or ability that many many pple don't have.

    • @HakuYuki001
      @HakuYuki001 Рік тому

      @@kdelka81 lol.
      Because the ridiculously small amount of people that require meat consumption for whatever temporary reason proves that saying veganism as a solution is ableist. Because if a solution doesn’t literally fix absolutely every problem and work in absolutely every situation then it shouldn’t be proposed.
      And certainly every person that for whatever reason cannot go completely vegan 100% of the time are disabled and we need to sympathize with their needs. (Because that’s not an ableist take or anything).

    • @kdelka81
      @kdelka81 Рік тому

      @@HakuYuki001 I don't understand what you are trying to say, starting off with your 1st sentence. The number of people that consume meat is not small. The rest is simply grammatically all over the place. So what are you saying?

    • @HakuYuki001
      @HakuYuki001 Рік тому

      @@kdelka81 What I wrote is perfectly comprehendible.
      The fact that you couldn’t distinguish between those “required” to eat meat as opposed to those who do really says something about your literacy.

    • @kdelka81
      @kdelka81 Рік тому

      @@HakuYuki001 I left out that word with intention. Your response answers my question. My reply is that you are too ignorant and egotistical to understand that your take is ableist.

  • @eternalhalloween1
    @eternalhalloween1 8 днів тому

    I give this movie 7/10. You certainly won't feel "had." But I'd be lying if I said there weren't some flaws. It's essentially about a man who wants vengeance because an "entitled population" destroyed his love of cooking. Fair enough. I admit to getting some laughs out of it. "You ruined my day off with your terrible film." But REALITY CHECK. "We kept you open during COVID." And are you telling me all his staff was ready to commit suicide with him? And become killers themselves in the process?

  • @tahnadana5435
    @tahnadana5435 Рік тому

    if he spare erin just because of the reasons youre saying than he shouldve also spare the girl whose with john leguizamo