Here Are All The Original Parts Left On My 400,000 Mile M5 & What A BMW Tech Found Wrong With it.
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Here's everything wrong with my 409,000 miles E39 m5 and all the parts that haven't been replaced yet. We also inspect the subframe that everyone thought was cracked and we have a little show and tell with some BMW Rod bearings and an S62 engine block. Teaser, the E60 S85 bearings are trashed at only 70,000 miles!
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who is faster my CLS 63 with 400k of your M5
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Hey guys I’m the previous owner. The Mercedes part is actually a evolve IAT relocation kit. The S62 suffers from massive heatsoaking especially in hotter states like GA which I had it in and Tennessee. It’ll either mount inside the air box by drilling a hole or on the outside like i had it. I sold it to Alex before I could actually relocate it into the airbox itself. As far as the differential bushing, it’s a unicorn billet egg. It removes any slop from the drivetrain, the E39 M5 has a strong subframe but it’s known to crack the front differential bushing. That small oil leak I was monitoring it throughout my ownership it’s from the passenger side timing cover. Valve cover gaskets are new. The whole front end was replace with Lemforder which is OEM as well as TRW parts. I’d never put Chinese anything on it lol. Whenever that car needed something I replaced it, and didn’t think twice about it. That fuel filter is only a year old as well. Axles have been replaced in the rear under my ownership as well.
Interesting, thank you for the clarification
Thanks Alex. Appreciate the knowledge.
Well done.
Interesting about heatsoaking because my 2005 E320 with 239K miles heatsoaks after a few runs at 120 mph. I have changed the MAF and MAP sensors twice before realising it was heat! Maybe I need a new larger Intercooler.
Thanks for following your car here for us! What oil did you end up using ... TWS 10w60 as recommended?
I love OJ and his demeanor keep doing collabs with him
Me too, but his hair is way too distracting 😉
He should have his own channel like the Wizard.
@@pasquale78 yeah, it makes him look a little odd with his frame but he's not bad to listen to.
ik yall see that mans muscles
One of best sedans ever produced. Best car l ever had for over 12 years ! E39 manual 6 speed,with UniChip Q and small exhaust modification. Just mans dream car!
The M5 needs "Evolve Medusa Headers" in the future.
They will free up massive Power.
The stock Exhaust manifolds are just a real Joke.
Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
German tuning companies and aftermarket parts have the most extreme names ever
@@tylercouture216 Evolve is a British 🇬🇧 Company 👍
@venomspeak is that not a Japanese Company? I am not shure.
Many Companys with German Names are not German at all.
especially Japanese Companys uses German names really often.
I think it's a great buy. High mileage shouldn't scare people if the vehicle has been maintained
Totally
sometimes it's preferable to lower mileage if you research. say you want car X and around 70k its prone to having a major issue. It would be smarter to get one over 100k thats had the work done than to get it at 50k knowing whats ahead
Oliver Plante
My 1992 740 Volvo has 456K Miles and I drive it daily. All original drivetrain without any rebuilding. I trust it to drive anywhere anytime.
Theodore Marakas
Very true. No way a 2019 car will be on the road for 27 years faithfully like mine without spending twice what you paid for the car.
Thanks for another great video! I'm not a mechanic and yet I can understand just about everything u explain. Your passion for cars makes the difference!
Love your content man, I've watched everyone of your videos. You are very informative, your editing is great, camera work is great and you are good at showing us what you are talking about, audio is crisp and content is great as well. Keep up the great work!
Looking forward to the next video Alex,although a pure mercedes fan at heart this M5 will be interesting as you're doing it,well done on the channel I love it! Greetings from Dublin,Ireland!
I enjoy the nerding out on this car. Great conversation with OJ.
I love your videos man ! You and O.J. really are making me more comfortable working on my own 2005 325i ( totally stock and unmodified with 233,000 on the clock and purring like my cat ! Never even driven a Beamer till a tree fell on my prior Yaris iA and crushed it, and the Beamer was the only car on my nearby car lot that I could afford the minimum 20% down. Despite the circumstances I couldn't be happier with the outcome. I never dreamed I'd own an Ultimate Drivers Machine - but here I am, and my neighbor is building a four bay repair shop next door complete with a lift and every kind of power and air tool you can imagine. I'm completely stoked and your videos are making this 66 yr old geezer feel like a teenager with a new toy ! Thanks you guys! I and so many others appreciate your professionalism and dedication to promote helping DIY'ers realize their dreams ! Keep up the excellent work . 👍😎
Shout out from down under, Australia Sydney ! Love your shows man learnt a lot plus makes me love the original AMG and M cars more !! Thx Alex !
Great video!! good to see the M5 getting some love! ;)
regarding damage to cylinder walls.. as far as i know there are 2 fairly practical solutions.. the first is to bore larger to get some clean alusil and then hone and expose to spec.. the second is using a company called Kolbenschmidt who produce alusil sleeves and sleeve the block..
Loving the in depth tour of this car! Sounds like pretty manageable things to tackle so far
Alex, great content! From this post and others reviewing the underside, from a U.K. perspective the condition of cars from more favourable states is pretty amazing...
I was thinking the same, a car with 1/10th the mileage wouldn't look that good here:(
Wow the blue of the Carbon Black really shows in your workshop shot at the start. Gorgeous. BMW have had incredible subtleties in their paints since the late 80's. Several of their colors were chameleon in different lights even back then.
I would say BMW has the best factory paints, just my opinion.
Just wanted to say hi Alex. You have a great channel always worth
Watching. Thanks for the heads up on simply safe security. One less
Thing to have to worry about. Take care and enjoy the summer.
Thanks Rob. Appreciate the kind words. Have a great weekend
Hey Alex!! Liking this bmw content!! Best to you and your family. 👍👋
Thanks Jason. Have an awesome weekend
Great content and insight, the only O.J. I will give thumbs up to is your dude. Plethora of knowledge and insight between you two.
Never had an M car, but several bmw’s. Found them easiest to work on, compared to honda, acura, chevy, nissan, ford, toyota, saturn...what else have i worked on? I forget. Either way, always found tons of room, and seemed like the engineers had ease of maintenance in mind designing them. Figured it was so the techs could run through work for people who buy bmw’s and take them to the dealer. Either way, always love the content. Keep it up Alex.
The bearing wear comes down to cold starts and people reving engines that aren't fully warm.
Yeah, oil weight and cleanliness is a factor too, but it's cold motors causing improper lube that causes the main problems.
You missed the BIGGEST factor of all...ridiculously low clearances, the 60 weight oil is crazy but with normal clearances it wouldn’t be a huge issue nor would cold starts.
You can't change the clearance without changing the bearing. That's why I didn't mention it. We're talking about why some fail so soon and some don't.
problem is BMW builds shitty engines
liblib89 Once you use the term “shitty”. I realize you have no idea, what you are talking about.
@@liblib89 10hp/liter is shitty okay haha
I think you're going to have a hard time fully curing the rear diff noise since you're transmitting the noise through the chassis with the solid diff mount.
I'm loving how diverse this channel is getting!
I love this type of content!!! I wish some day will start working on my cars myself. Written in Mercedes Benz dealership.
But in all seriousness, my recent purchase is in dealership second day in a row. First oil change, today ... well its started smoking on a hwy after oil change. Oil level is in max, checked this morning, not sure where it came from. So as I say: written in a dealership.
I love these old E39 M5 cars. Please keep this car around for a while!
great video. i like how you two explained everything and the simplisafe seems like a great product
I am glad you bought this car. I also saw same sub frame illusion in a picture and immediately lifted up the car just to be pleasantly 'disappointed' that everything is OK.
Thanks for the informative video - and always good to see OJ sharing knowledge!
I am from RECIFE, in Brazil, South America, and I love your videos, congrats, you’re bringing to life the oldest cars, that prob couldn’t have thanked you more, kudos to you...
Hi Alex. I enjoyed the video, sir. I've always loved the E39 M5. I wouldn't have bought that one because of the extremely high mileage, but so far, it looks like you've got a winner here. So amazing to think that several of the OEM parts have survived that long. Incredible! As for the break-ins in your area, SimpliSafe looks like a very good system. A guy at work has it at his house and it gives him that added piece of mind when he's away. As for the other times, having a 12 gauge handy should suffice. Have a great weekend, Alex.
TheMick26 you don’t have any clue
@@2011Transformersdotm Please enlighten me, Kabal.
TheMick26 why is it wrong to buy a high mileage car? Tell me.
This m5 has over 400k miles because it is Well kept. This Motor won‘t Break easily but low mileage m5 still have the possibility to break. This m5 has it’s maintainance behind him.
If your car has Many miles without breaking, this means it has a good running system it’s a Good exemplar.
Ofcourse i wouldn‘t buy a high mileage 4 cylinder car
I’m excited to see/hear the velocity stacks and exhaust.
I have run my M5 with the plenum cover off and the sound is heavenly. This really is one of the best sounding v8's ever produced.
I love how a Mercedes guy slowlyyyyyy.... converts to BMW. Welcome Alex! You're a valuable addition to the BMW community.
Another great video. I drive past his shop every day on the way home. You should do a meet up out there. Keep up the great work.
Love this car , the only thing i would change is the wheels .. if you can get the OEM rims or some Alpina wheels that would really look good ♥️
E46 M3 CSL Wheels, or E92 M3 Comp Pack wheels 😍
You and OJ could own the entire Chi-Town Euro-Lux repair scene. You've both got more knowledge than you know what to do with. haha
One thing i would love for you to discuss with OJ would be if he knows/thinks the german cars that are made to be sold in germany are better built/have better quality parts on them from the factory that the ones that are meant for export. There are a lot of rumors about that and i´d like to hear your approach on that subject if possible , great content btw. Thank you.
Sounds like a Scotty Kilmer myth. The closest thing to the truth here is that certain German cars built in the US and Mexico are lower in quality than the ones built in Germany or the surrounding countries. I can not imagine they'd actually have two batch of parts for the assembly and where the car is headed determines if it gets the better or worse parts.
Speaking for Mercedes, there is no difference (would be more costly to produce different parts and get a bad image)
Ionut i would say it is about the same, however the cars that come to America have less accessories bells and whistles, because the car is a lot cheaper in the US than anywhere else in the world, so they make it a little cheaper on accessories and add-ons but the quality is about the same of course...
In the middle of the 90's I worked at the Ford assembly line in Cologne to finance my studies at the university.
All vehicles were built with exactly the same parts.
A fellow student worked full time at Mercedes before going to college to study. He too said that there were no differences at all between the vehicles.
However, there was disingenuous behavior at Opel. If one knew that a car magazine had ordered a vehicle for a crash test, then more stable wishbones were installed in it, for example, in order to achieve better test results. This was, of course, fraud.
The vehicles that are sold to the USA are extremely cheap and often have the larger engines and the best equipment. Even in the 60s, VW Beetles destined for the US market had better equipment.
For example, a lot of E36 BMWs with 105hp and 118hp were sold in Germany - the cars are so expensive that few people can afford the M3s with over 300hp. In the USA the M3s are often cheaper than the 150 hp E36s in Germany.
So the USA buyers are favored over the German customers!
This is Refreshing Consider The Fact That i Own A E92 BMW, I Learn Something New Everyday
You have a great pal there in OJ Alex. What a very cool guy he is. Great vid as always..
Awesome video Alex, Can't wait for more.. 👌
I drive an E46 M3 which apparently uses the same internals for the Limited Slip Diff. (or the whole same diff). Last year I developed a notorious sound that I found out was a known thing with that diff. When you would turn really slow like when parking it would make a grindish whine sound. More whine than grind. I looked online and everywhere in the BMW forums there was talk that I MUST use the BMW fluid even though it seemed silly to me as there are many high quality fluids with FM boosters and additives for LSD's. So I bought some Liqui Molly at only $45 for two liters (You need 1.2 liters to fill lol). No change at all. As I drove for the next few months it started to get worse. So finally I broke down and paid the (Canadian dollars) $85 per 500ML a bottle. So I needed three. Ouch. Put it in and thought it wouldn't matter. But wow it almost instantly fixed the problem completely. I haven't heard a sound out of it since. So I don't know what the Germans do to make that kind of difference. But when they say you MUST have the expensive BMW fluid.....YOU MUST HAVE THE EXPENSIVE BMW DIFF FLUID. LOL. Love the car now that I've done the subframe reinforcements and the Vanos. It's never had a bad day. Except for the stalling when at temp in reverse or just in gear out of the blue about twice a month. Can't figure it and neither can the shops. Great Vids and content! Sorry for the long comment.
Still its good deal, and a beauty!!!! Great Content as always. keep up the good work
Thanks my brother
Please post more often!!! I cant wait to see more videos on the M5!!!
great vid alex , oj is a legend . cant wait to see this bm story pan out 👍👍
atb simon
P cars suffer from the bore scoring as well. at 10 degrees F the piston actually expands. Tight tolerances when making the block is the cause.
You would definitely benefit from joining the private FB group. We have a couple guys who specialize in parting out e39 m5s. Saves a ton of money on high quality parts.
What kind of fool would part-out an E39 M? Only logical reason I can think of is being badly wrecked.
Love how there's casually a Diablo hanging in the air at 18:54 but we busy with E39 M5 ha ha
What a fantastic geeky filled upload. Love it 😊
Did that mod with Air Intake Temperature and it makes a Good difference
Hey Alex , Welcome to the BMW family! Awesome M5 and for those who say BMW's dont last past 100k..hmmm
Great video. Just packed with information.
Keen to hear how you get on with the diff whine. I should also add that my diff recently had poly bushes added, replacing the factory rubber ones. A by-product is more diff whine/noise at highway speeds. Nothing too bad though.
Also, those velocity stacks look damn cool. Visited the Ferrari factory/museum in Maranello & Modena where they had quite a few of their race engines on stands, and they all had the velocity stacks on them.
Super good and informative video. Seems like the BMW might be easier to work with
Alex, you’ve got me thinking about picking one of these up!!!
Not just a Porsche guy here. I’m on my 3rd Mercedes, the current one an E500 bought new, now with 205K miles. None of my Mercs ever had a rod bearing failure, or other mechanical engine problem. So glad I’ve avoided the BMW temptation all these years!
A fix for the aluminium cylinder blocks we sometimes do here in Australia is do what is known as "step lining". This involves the process of boring the cylinders beyond machining limits, then machining a "step" 5mm deep in the cylinders, and inserting the liners. These are sealed to the cylinder block using high temperature sealant to prevent coolant leaking into the sump.
i love the e39 m5, also love the w211, I've had both the e39 loves going fast around corners, greetings from ireland
Keeping the family safe good work 👍🇬🇧
What kind of garage is this?! A Buick Lucerne, two Ferraris, a 4 Runner, and a 38 Chevy? Interesting 😂
And it wasnt even a Northstar
I need more videos you guys are awesome together. I'm addicted!!
Very illuminating. Great engine if maintained correctly.
I love that cable tie around fuel line...
E39 the white rhino on the streets.
Still looks brutal no matter the age.
👍👍👍👍
Amazing video & collab AMG and M united on LSC !💪
Amazing channel ! Keep the cars bro ✌
The rear diffuser is not an M5 diffuser, it's from a regular e39 with the M-sport package, the lip on the bottom is not there on an M5, it's more like a rolled pan.
There's a Ferrari 360 back there!!!
Check this before bying a expencive Airbag-module. Known problem. Airbag-light usually triggered by faulty sencor in passenger seat, sencor struggle to decide if there is a passenger or not and are creating mutiple or repetedly codes connected to airbag. Great tour and explaining under the car , thumbs up.
With the rod bearing issue the wear is caused by people not letting the oil get up to temp before revving up the car. Happens a lot on the E9X M3’s with the S65 V8s. Most people don’t know the temp gauge measures coolant temp and not oil temp.
The slight whine from the rear diff is most likely due to the solid bushing. You get the same slight whine when people replace the fluid filled bushing on a 350Z. The solid bushing transfers high frequency vibrations directly into the subframe and can be heard in the cabin.
For 400k miles, impressive condition. Shows good engineering, shows the prior owners could actually properly maintain the car.
I want to see more of this cars' progress. Make more time for it! OJ seems like a really cool dude, you're fortunate to have him as a friend and mechanic.
OJ is a cool guy and really knowledgeable too.
Your garage is looking like a dream car garage
Great video. FYI those are not oil pumps in the upper oil pan. Those are scavenging solenoids that activate @1.0G to prevent oil starvation. What kills them is inactivity, so its "good" for your M5 to drive it hard(once up to temp).
Oj has a wealth of knowledge and has the coolest hair in the car game.
On March 8th, 2019, Bavarian Autosport announced via its Facebook page that after 45 years in business, they would be closing their doors. I literally just found this out and saddens me I used to use this site to fix and upgrade my e39.
Good to see Vandelay Industries Import Export is still going strong!
See the forum M5Board for inexpensive bushings on the oil filter housing and PS reservoir. There's a company in New York that has them. The BMW pieces are ridiculously expensive. Check the date stamp on the fuel filter - have to think yours has been replaced but when I bought my car with 131k miles on it the fuel filter was original. Changing that and spark plugs made a nice improvement for me. Cam position sensors are a bitch, especially Bank 2 (driver's side) exhaust. When you do those replace the Allen head fasteners with standard 10mm hex head. You're going to love this car.
Sweet rides in that shop! I think that's a RR Phantom too!
Does BMW know as much about their cars as OJ?
Hey Alex, E39 M5 doesn’t have a “servotronic” steering. It has hydraulic assist recirculating ball. If you want more feel, a rack and pinion unit from e39 528 would give you more feedback. Camber plates at the front would get rid of the at the limit under steer. Do cold air ducts from center grill helps a lot. Only Mercedes would make a MAF plug extension. LOL. You bought the best 4 door BMW ever made. Evo voted it #3 in the best M cars shootout. Only behind M1 and e30 M3. Both were designed for racing. Have fun drifting her. Easies car to drift I have driven.
That howeling noise could very well be from the wheel bearing. I had a similar situation and turned out the diff was 100% fine, just noise transfer from a bad wheel bearing.
Alex You need just one mor car add in fleet, s600 W221, wish to see more DIY videos on this car, but M5 thats a beast love it, have a good day
OJ SEEMS LIKE A REALLY NICE GUY GREAT JOB 🙌
This is one of my favorite cars ever and you're inspiring me to get one. Any advise on finding a mechanic to fix it up for me?
You could install used airbag module ! And coded too even any module in bmw there is ways imagine we do it in iraq there is so many software and hardware we used to clear the vin crash data keys Isn number match virginized ecu as it comes from factory let OJ know about it
I used to race two stroke motocross bikes in the late 90s early 2000s, and the mfgs all put a coating on the cylinder walls called "nikisil" which had the exact same problem as the alloy m5 block. In fact it could not be repaired you had to sleeve the cylinder otherwise replce it.
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Love the tee shirt and your work. Costanza, so good,
from Melbourne Australia
another great vid. thanks for the awesome content
Looks like you did okay, no nasty surprises.
Love the content man!
That's hilarious. I saw the building for Fluid and thought it looked familiar. It is in the same complex as a stereo shop I follow on IG. lol
The Solid metal bushing (@8:32) that you have in the front Diff mount is nicknamed a "Unicorn Egg" and is a solid front diff mount bushing made by Einhorn Industries. You should consider google-ing them or finding them on facebook and look at the stuff they make for the e39 M5, especially their one of a kind exhaust manifolds!
the e46 m3 subframe mount issue was not as widespread as the internet forums would have you believe. it primarily impacted the early m3s of that chassis and could potentially impact any e46 that got driven in a spirited manner. after 2002 they reinforced the welds and significantly lowered the odds of the issue appearing, though its still possible. if you have an e46, its a good idea to weld in a reinforcement kit when changing your subframe bushings even if there is no sign of the crack issue on your car, just because why not have some insurance?
Glad you got a bimmer, now we will see more of OJ
Interesting about heatsoaking because my 2005 E320 CDI with 239K miles heatsoaks after a few runs at 120 mph. I have changed the MAF and MAP sensors twice before realising it was heat! Maybe I need a new larger Intercooler.🤔
Alex, you should look at BND automotive and their ACES product for the cylinder galling. It's supposed to provide lubrication to the cylinder walls during combustion. I know it seems like just another additive, but it has been tested by a couple chevy engine builders. I run it in my Charger and am thinking about it for my 928.
I'll check it out. Thanks!
Looks like it's in great condition, they're hard to find in the UK without being rotten or priced the same as an E60 M5
I had a horrible experience with BMW of Melbourne, they didn't do their inspection on my car, and I drove around for six months with a seized brake that ended up disintegrating my brake line. They also wanted 2200 for an oil pan, and 600 for an oil filter housing gasket. We spent 1950.95 to fix BMW's mistake - they also put two quarts in my car instead of the 6 liters.
My E46 M3 is cracked on the rear axle carrier panel. Off to Redish in the Uk she must go. She isn't a daily but it will be sorted soon. Have also used the official diff oil as well does make a difference.