Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth: A Colloquial Summary

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  • Опубліковано 26 гру 2024

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  • @lfwinesroad3399
    @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +5

    Pictures cont'd:
    39. Ascension - the Genesis of Digital Fine Art
    by John Pitre; www.johnpitre.com
    40. Iluvatar's Mighty Theme
    by Anna Kulisz; Deviantart
    41. That morning
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    42. Something of Manwe and Ulmo
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    43. Grasping in the Dark
    by IsabelStar; Deviantart
    44. Eye, Green, Tears, Pupil
    by Brad Day/Artgrid; artgrid.io/clip/329589/eye-green-tears-pupil
    45. Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth
    by alystraea; Deviantart
    46. Beautiful Girl in Forest Free Stock Videos | Free stock footage - No Copyright | All Video Free
    by All Video Free; UA-cam
    47. Man Walking Through Fog In A Forest Copyright Free Stock Video
    by Matthias Groeneveld; UA-cam
    48. Aegnor
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    49. Aegnor (Close-up of the work "And-galen, days of the Long Peace")
    by Elena Kukanova; vk.com/kukanovaart?z=photo-122054834_457239474%2Falbum-122054834_232824503%2Frev
    50. Aegnor and Andreth - sketch
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    51. Andreth
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    52. Andreth and Aegnor - the first encounter
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    53. Andreth and Aegnor - fragment
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    54. Dorthonion
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    55. Andreth and Aegnor: 'He turned away'
    by alystraea; Deviantart
    56. Candle in the dark
    by Saul Soto; UA-cam
    57. Moths in flight
    by Linden Gledhill; UA-cam
    58. Aegnor and Andreth
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    59. Aegnor- sketch
    by Elena Kukanova
    60. Wind of the North
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    61. ...
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    62. The last moments of Ard Gallen
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    63. Dagor Bragollah
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    64. Fire
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    65. That morning -fragment
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    66. Aegnor & Andreth
    by Elena Kukanova; vk.com/kukanovaart?z=photo-122054834_457239654%2Falbum-122054834_232676850%2Frev
    67. Someday...
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    68. Andreth and Aegnor sketch
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    69. Somewhere under the same sky
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    70. I will tell him - Andreth and Finrod
    by Sara Morello (SaMo-art); Deviantart
    71. Aeluin
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    72. Dorthonion 2
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    73. The star in her hair
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    74. Bragollah sketch
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    75. cloister
    by Rodolphe Tavernaro; Flickr
    76. Andreth and Finrod
    by luthienelf; Deviantart
    77. smile
    by Elena Kukanova; Deviantart
    78. Aegnor & Andreth
    by leavespics; www.tumgir.com/leavespics
    79. Above the clouds sunrise timelapse
    by H.B.P T; UA-cam

  • @stetsonstarkey
    @stetsonstarkey 10 місяців тому +6

    This is easily one of the most thought provoking passages in the entire legendarium. You did an awesome job with this video

  • @lissamissa9
    @lissamissa9 2 роки тому +16

    The end brings me to tears. Await us there, my brother and me 😭

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +3

      Oh I know! It’s such a moving line 😊

    • @ladyalaina42
      @ladyalaina42 Рік тому +2

      It gives hope for a joining of destinies and Finrods desire of it for his brother's sake and Andreths.

  • @isilion
    @isilion 2 роки тому +30

    I love this obscure story so much! I was thinking of it yesterday hahaha
    That end always gives me chills: *“but you are not for Arda. Whither you go may you find light. Await us there, my brother - and me.”*
    “Await us there, my brother - and me.” I like to think that was old Andreth's final thought when she passed away...
    This sadly obscure story, short as it may be, is one of the most beautiful, poetic, tragic and unimaginably deep works of Tolkien imo. I really would love to have met it earlier in my life...
    The metaphysics, theology, drama, tragic love story and bitter hopeful end... I'm certain this is one the greatest literary works out there, it's a pity it is so obscure and not well know as it deserves...
    I always feel... ethereal things and a certain hollowness when I move my thought too much to this story and that of Aldarion and Erendis...
    I hope and have faith they'll met again, some day... that story is so beautiful and unspeakably _tragic..._
    Thank you for the great vid! ☺️

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +4

      Indeed! It is terribly tragic, but so wonderfully poignant and beautiful. I love the final lines as well :-)

    • @isilion
      @isilion 2 роки тому +7

      @@lfwinesroad3399 I love the final lines too! They marked me greatly, I always remember it. Indeed their love isn't for Arda marred... but for Arda healed! This _will_ happen one day, I have estel of that!
      I love how Aegnor will stay _willingly_ in Mandos until the end of the world out of love of Andreth, remembering that ineffable morning upon the hills of Dorthonion, for all the millennia to come, until they met again... beautiful, very beautiful indeed! Mandos is collecting quite an interesting permanent crowd: Finwë, Feanor and now Aegnor! Must be a family thing :-)

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +4

      @@isilion I have estel of that, too :-) Haha you're right about Mandos collecting an interesting permanent crowd :-D

  • @montyhedstrom1356
    @montyhedstrom1356 2 роки тому +14

    Thanks for sharing this. It is a testament to how deep Tolkien was that he thinks through the spiritual ramifications of the different elvish and mannish lifespans. One of the most interesting things that Christopher found to put in the history.

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +4

      Agreed - Tolkien was amazing at bringing such depth and richness into his storytelling. We are all indebted to Christopher for spending so many years bringing his father's unpublished works to the public.

  • @tomk537
    @tomk537 2 роки тому +16

    A new video - thank you for retelling this complex exploration of death and nature of Tolkien’s world - it is easy to see Tolkien reflecting his real world faith - of Eru entering the world - how this could done to redeem it - but also of the long defeat of the elves bound to Arda which will some day fail - Tolkien is without peer - the beauty of language- I didn’t hear it when I first ready LOTR as a middle schooler - thank you for the video!

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +1

      Great comment! I'm glad you liked my video :-D

  • @10275
    @10275 5 місяців тому +2

    I am so so thrilled to have found this today. What a work of love you've produced. Hurrah!

  • @Dylankiwi1
    @Dylankiwi1 2 роки тому +18

    Thanks for the recap, man I love this conversation. Its arguably more important than a lot of the Silmarillion chapters. It's tragic not much people have read it or aware of its existence.

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +5

      I agree, which is why I hope more people come across this video so that they can go straight to the source material!

    • @Dylankiwi1
      @Dylankiwi1 2 роки тому +4

      @@lfwinesroad3399 aye, the professor would be proud. Arguably one of the most important conversations he wrote being spread to a new audience who unaware of it existence. You don’t have to do this but maybe bring awareness to the later version of Finwe tale and laws and customs among the elder. As I reckon Silmarillion did Finwe a injustice. But yeah do whatever your passionate about. Love more content regardless.

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +4

      @@Dylankiwi1 The Laws and Customs are indeed fascinating, and I would be interested in that in the future for sure!

  • @anyoneattheendoftime4932
    @anyoneattheendoftime4932 2 роки тому +32

    Only Tolkien could spend years on an in-universe philosophical dialogue for his fictional world.

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +4

      Indeed! He was an amazing author.

    • @anyoneattheendoftime4932
      @anyoneattheendoftime4932 2 роки тому +7

      _Andreth adaneth, the life and love of the Eldar dwells much in memory; and we (if not ye) would rather have a memory that is fair but unfinished than one that goes on to a grievous end. Now he will ever remember thee in the sun of morning, and that last evening by the water of Aeluin in which he saw thy face mirrored with a star caught in thy hair -ever, until the North-wind brings the night of his flame. Yea, and after that, sitting in the House of Mandos in the Halls of Awaiting until the end of Arda._
      @@lfwinesroad3399 I legit cried here.

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +2

      @@anyoneattheendoftime4932 It's so beautiful :-)

    • @sainiharika
      @sainiharika Рік тому

      We r too

  • @andythecrimson8877
    @andythecrimson8877 2 роки тому +19

    This is one of the great conversations in all of Tolkien's work. I love it.

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +5

      Indeed it is!

    • @philippes.9571
      @philippes.9571 2 роки тому +2

      For me it is a fundamental text that allow to understand a lot of things behing the surface in the legendarium. Unfortunalty many people who knows Tolkiens work only through the films and books (teven if they have read the Simarillion) miss the metaphysical part of his work

    • @andythecrimson8877
      @andythecrimson8877 2 роки тому +1

      @@philippes.9571 yeah, many people think it's just a great fantasy or action film and book but miss the metaphysical meaning.

  • @MegMarchSews61
    @MegMarchSews61 2 роки тому +17

    Tolkien's Christianity is showing through this excellent piece and I am here for it. Well done! Glad to have you back!!!!😄
    EDIT: Aegnor and Andreth!! Now I want to cry. Such a bittersweet ending.

  • @thestraightroad305
    @thestraightroad305 5 місяців тому +1

    Well done. And Elena Kukanova is my favorite artist of the First Age.

  • @ladyalaina42
    @ladyalaina42 Рік тому +4

    You have added so much to my understanding of this love story of Aegnor and Andreth. I find it heartbreaking and beautiful.... if only.

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  Рік тому +1

      I'm glad to have helped 😊 Yes, I agree that this story is just so heartbreaking, yet beautiful. It's one of my favorites. ❤

  • @valaraukar_595
    @valaraukar_595 2 роки тому +8

    A new upload? It's been 84 years...
    Many thanks!

  • @tylerbarrett6652
    @tylerbarrett6652 2 роки тому +10

    What a gem of a conversation from JRRT. Thank you for sharing this. Have missed you and your uploads.

  • @orthos5783
    @orthos5783 2 роки тому +10

    You’re back!

  • @ghostshark4060
    @ghostshark4060 2 роки тому +24

    The return of the queen!

  • @liamgardner527
    @liamgardner527 Рік тому +1

    Never thought that I’d ever experience anyone else’s opinion and thoughts on this!!! Awesome! Thank you!!!

  • @Gerbuho
    @Gerbuho 2 роки тому +7

    What a nice surprise to find a new video! I hope everything is going smoothly and you're having enough sleep time. 🙂
    Great to have you back. Cheers.

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +4

      Thank you very much! Yes, sleep time :-D It's definitely better than a couple months ago. I hope you enjoy the video!

  • @jianshen2223
    @jianshen2223 10 місяців тому

    Seen so much of your vids. Gotta say you have one of the most informative look into Tolkien's legendarium. Great vids deserving of much more views

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  10 місяців тому

      Thank you so much for the lovely comment! I'm really glad you have been enjoying my videos 😊

  • @peternouwen
    @peternouwen 2 роки тому +4

    That was beautiful! It made me cry 😢. Thanks!

  • @Gorlim_the_Unhappy
    @Gorlim_the_Unhappy Рік тому +1

    Wonderful. This is top tier colloquial Tolkien! Brilliantly executed, thank you!

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  Рік тому

      Thank you so much for such a lovely compliment! 😄 I'm glad you enjoyed it.

  • @TheDeadlyKnight
    @TheDeadlyKnight 2 роки тому +9

    Bravo! This was wonderful

  • @lemonlemonlemonlemonlemonlemo
    @lemonlemonlemonlemonlemonlemo Рік тому +2

    why am i crying-

  • @stetsonstarkey
    @stetsonstarkey 2 роки тому +1

    This is such a fabulous idea. I think this would be great for other sections as well!

  • @abe9458
    @abe9458 2 роки тому +3

    Would love too see you do some Collabs with like Red Book and Girl Next Gondor etc. Awesome video as always! We missed ya.

  • @bridge2space
    @bridge2space 2 роки тому +1

    So glad to see you back again! Such an interesting video.

  • @pawbard
    @pawbard 6 місяців тому +1

    That was beautiful thanks

  • @thebrotherskrynn
    @thebrotherskrynn 2 роки тому +4

    Welcome back! I missed seeing you in the notification bell AElfwine's Road! It was such a delight to see you pop up, and thanks for doing this video great job!
    Agnor was a cruel sob, really hate him. I know it is harsh, but he fled out of selfishness and narcissism, unable to love the soul of poor Andreth he chose his vision of her. One who bore little resemblance to the reality of who and what she was I think. Technically the Elves were at peace so not marrying because it is war-time was a lie. And what of Idril? She had a child in war-time, same with Luthien, and Orodreth.
    I love this dialogue but Finrod is blinded by love for his brother and his continuous excuses for Agnor are unbecoming of him. What I love best is the gradual character-development, deep within him he believed love between men and Elves to be impossible at the start. Yet by the end he's a believer, and I always attributed him being a shipper of Beren & Luthien to be due to this exact conversation. That it was the realisation of just how poorly Agnor had behaved when he used and threw away Andreth with nary a thought to her, that pushed him to want to help her last remaining relative have a happier time of it, and achieve true love.
    In some ways, I think this story should have been included in the Silmarillion as a prologue to the tale of Beren & Luthien.
    P.S. I've watched and re-watched your Beleriand video a million times already, and intend to do the same here ;)

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +4

      Wow! I've never even thought of it from your perspective, but you have a point! And I agree in calling bs about the not marrying during wartime thing. I've always felt like Aegnor and Andreth got the short end of the stick in the Elf/Human department. Oh well, someday in Arda Remade....
      I'm glad you enjoyed my Beleriand video :-)

  • @padroelhijodemorzat112
    @padroelhijodemorzat112 2 роки тому +6

    Omg you're back! :D

  • @_brunolima
    @_brunolima 2 роки тому +3

    Welcome back! ❤️

  • @LordTelperion
    @LordTelperion 11 місяців тому +2

    Ouch, my heart...

  • @elisabethschulz5177
    @elisabethschulz5177 Рік тому +4

    This is so unbelievably sad to me. A forever unfinished lovestory.

  • @vickielittleton6373
    @vickielittleton6373 2 роки тому +2

    Beautiful.

  • @ladyalaina42
    @ladyalaina42 2 роки тому +4

    A beautiful and sad story. I believe that union of Elves and men would strength mankind and Middle Earth. That would be why the two were made physically compatible.

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +1

      That's a great comment. I've never thought of it that way before! 🙂

    • @ladyalaina42
      @ladyalaina42 Рік тому +2

      I totally agree! Elven blood in Middle Earth would be a strength to mankind.

  • @allukadesu2048
    @allukadesu2048 2 роки тому +3

    What a bittersweet story.

  • @DrunkJester
    @DrunkJester 2 роки тому +4

    If anyone can answer this as ive always wondered about it. Do Gimli Frodo and the rest when they arrive to Valinor do they die peacefully or live on Tol Errse (that iland of Valinor) for the remainder of there lives or do they live forever 🤔.

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +6

      I believe they live out their mortal lives and their souls leave the world the they die.

  • @DrewCharp
    @DrewCharp 2 місяці тому

    That Fëa and Hröa painting you used... Is it THE William Blake?

    • @DrewCharp
      @DrewCharp 2 місяці тому +1

      Absolutely awesome. Only ever seen Blake's painting where God is ripped and his hair is awesome and he's using His hand as a compass. With the big secret fire behind him.

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 місяці тому

      It sure is! The link is in the description (#4 image), which will take you to the William Blake Archive. Fantastic artwork! 👍

  • @DrunkJester
    @DrunkJester 2 роки тому +1

    Yay ya back i was just thinking last night of putting a comment up on ya last clip asking when be back and hope ya would do a reading like ya did with The Silmarillon of the The Hobbit and LOTR or anything new especially regarding lesser known characters. Shout out to the 5th beatle i mean hobbit fatty bulger (hope i got the name right)

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +1

      Shout out to Fatty Bolger, indeed! I'm glad you've enjoyed this video :-D

  • @danamatthews9688
    @danamatthews9688 2 роки тому +2

    👍🏾

  • @andythecrimson8877
    @andythecrimson8877 2 роки тому

    Hi Aelfwine's Road, do you have any other social media accounts? Like IG or FB?

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +1

      Hi there! Nope, I just have the UA-cam channel 😀

    • @andythecrimson8877
      @andythecrimson8877 2 роки тому

      @@lfwinesroad3399 😌, I notice that some of your videos have some photos taken by you. I love it.

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +1

      @@andythecrimson8877 Good eye! I'm glad you like them 😀

  • @yisroelackerman
    @yisroelackerman 2 роки тому +1

    I was just writing to someone about this. Lol.

  • @HowieChicago
    @HowieChicago 2 роки тому +2

    Hello there!

  • @micahwendell
    @micahwendell 2 роки тому +1

    I'm not crazy about your paraphrasing putting it in words that Tolkien never used. Would have liked it better if you had given direct quotes and then tried to explain it in plainer english.

    • @lfwinesroad3399
      @lfwinesroad3399  2 роки тому +2

      Then this channel is definitely not for you! 😄

  • @megoo57
    @megoo57 Рік тому +1

    😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @robbieOhDec24
    @robbieOhDec24 Рік тому

    And yet it were men who slay dragons...

  • @jianshen2223
    @jianshen2223 10 місяців тому +1

    Seen so much of your vids. Gotta say you have one of the most informative look into Tolkien's legendarium. Great vids deserving of much more views