I own a 2018 Monster 1200 S and everything you say is spot on, right down to the transmission with a few extra neutrals. The transmission does get better with more miles and a firm toe, but mine still likes to surprise me every now and then. For me, motorcycles are a purely emotional choice and this bike tugs at my heart strings, so I bought it. If you don't feel the same way, there are almost certainly better bikes for the money. Lastly, don't pay MSRP. I offered 16k for mine and the dealer accepted without blinking an eye, which leads me to believe I overpaid. The last time I was in a local dealer, they had a brand new 2018 marked down to 14k +freight/assembly and tax.
Biggest reason why I don't watch these anymore.... If you can't watch your own video and cringe at it and attempt to improve them then you're not meant for this type of work.. Give this job to some other moto vlogger in CA who can memorize the PR sheet.
Nonsense... there’s a position where the light will come on, he just didn’t have it exactly on point. This issue goes away after about 1000 miles, it’s a break in issue. Ducati’s are very tight from the factory and things need to break in nicely. I’ve owned 4 now over the last 5 years and have had literally zero problems with any of them, not even a single drop of oil on my garage floor. The bike isn’t fully broken in until after around 1500 miles. 600 miles is simply the dealer break in service where you’re allowed to rev higher etc.
Love the MC Commutes. And I like the way you ride, Adam - lane-splitting everywhere, no blinkers and occasionally disregarding the speed limit. That's the way to go on two wheels in Cali. Thanks for the video review and keep the rubber side down (except the front once in awhile).
Haha the whole time im thinking, where the hell are the blinkers?!...the constant lane driftings.... splitting constantly. so weird to see from a different state (splitting is illegal here) X | good god thats screwy
Did we watch the same video? At 5:38 he turns the blinkers on to switch lanes to the right (not sure why, didn't seem like there was anyone behind to benefit from it) then leaves it on past the junction (giving wrong information to anyone at the lights waiting to turn right), until 5:55. Blinkers come on again at 11:11 and stay on for no apparent reason until 11:27. At 18:47, when it would definitely have been good to indicate right, before taking the space that white car could have been gunning for, the blinker stayed off... then indicated left and merged to the right immediately after! Not to mention the high beam being constantly on - why?
Why all the complaints about his high beams on? In the daytime I have mine on all the time. The daytime running lights on cars are often their high beams on at reduced power, but there are two of them. I think bikes, especially without a fairing, are invisible with only low beams on. Maybe in the cloudy and darker euro zone high beams are not necessary but in Southern California or Arizona low beams are almost useless.
Maybe if people now a days look at the road instead of their iPhone, they'd see motorcycles. Imagine back in the 80's and 90's when it was a low beam incandescent light and nobody had their high beams on.
I own the 2019, and I love it. I also have the 2012 Monster 1100 Evo. 6’2”, 225 lbs. 34 inch inseam. Bike fits me great. The 2019 engine is smoother than the 2012. I get false neutrals sometimes, but only when I’m lazy with my shifting, and using the clutch. No false neutrals experienced when using the Ducati quick shifter, i.e. without the clutch. Have less than 2000 miles on it, so I expect the false neutral problem will go away, as it did on the 2012. I think his mirrors were mounted upside down, btw, and yes that was off topic. Menu does take some extra time to make changes, but most changes are overkill. Make a decision and stick with it for several hundred miles. You’ll have forgotten how much time it took to make the changes faster than it took you to read this sentence. Riders are very different in what they like, so it’s great that Ducati provided a way to fine tune YOUR ride. But, again, once you make the changes, you’re set for a long time. Other than a Yamaha MT-10, which is less expensive, what else is in this class. Like the looks of this much more than the Yamaha. And the Yamaha is just another inline 4, so it sounds and feels like any other inline 4, which is great if that’s what you want. The 2012 1100 Evo rides rough, and makes you work all the time. The 2019 is smoother, but you still know you that you are riding a Monster. An inline 4 is smooth like butter, but can be boring, to me at least.
Had a 2016 monster 821 dark until somebody ran a red light and totalled it Upgraded to this 1200s and it is awesome i live downtown and joy ride on the weekenda it big beautiful and sounds awesome the suspension is smooth Have a track bike to run into the ground but out on the street im enjoying whipping around on this Who percentage of daily commuters need 150hp+ for a daily commuter street bike?
@@koongfu00 Lane-splitting is ALWAYS a dangerous game, anywhere! I've been riding in the New York area for 40+ years now... by the Grace of God and a lot of caution, I'm still riding. But probably the WORST situation is lane-splitting. Here. it is illegal, so the only time I will do it is when traffic goes below about 5 mph (10km/h?)... and even THEN you have to really go slowly and WATCH... covering your brakes. It's all Fun ....until suddenly it ISN'T. Motorcycles are Dangerous.
@@888jackflash we know, we are riders too, but it’s more dangerous (at least in my country) to stay between cars. In Argentina cars always invade your lane, you are dead meat if you stay in the middle of the lane between cars. The safest place to be with your bike is ahead of the traffic.
Touch screen not required. Ride the bike. Adam was quite critical of the Monster 1200s and made comments re the appearance. I dont think black does the bike any favours really. Ducati has to be red thats how it is. Put a full termi or sc project exhaust on, dial in your suspension and it becomes a different bike and rather than tootle round for a few miles, go for a longer run, get that engine properly opened up and feel the difference. Sometimes these reviews just arent suitable for the bikes proper potential.
I've been in Southern CA but just business trips, never on 2 wheels, so I spent a lot of time watching this just giving the surroundings a once over. Lots of fancy automobile hardware near Adam's house! I guess you get used to it but the lane splitting/filtering thing just looks effin crazy to this boy from New Jersey. You would not live long here doing that but I get it that drivers don't expect it here either. These bikes seem like a total hoot minus the nits. My 08 Hypermotard is big fun on the back roads here and would make a decent commuter if I didn't work from home. :-)
To be fair, lanesplitting isn't legal here in Jersey so of course noone would expect it. Meaning it would definitely be a poor decision to lanesplit...especially knowing how people drive here lol.
@@theguitarhero898 in my neck of the woods too but we still do it to keep moving. Drivers here play nice, sometimes they even pull over a little when traffic is totally at a stand still to let me filter. I use common sense and stop lane splitting as soon a movement resumes and start moving with the traffic.
It's really funny you mentioned the spacing of the bars and the pegs. I have shorter legs and a longer torso, so the spacing feels like the bike was custom made for me. I love the monster line of bikes.
As for false neutrals and hard to get into neutral - you get that in the first 1,000 miles, after that it is fine. Feels like a real bike that needs a real break-in period. As for quality of finish and reliability, beats my 2016 low mileage BMW GSA hands down. The GS shat its electronic rear suspension at 6,000 miles, luckily still under warranty as a replacement unit is 1500 + labour.
I love naked bikes! Ferrari and Lambo do not hide their engines. I own a 2014 Monster 1200 and a 2018 Super Duke 1290r. Able to see the motors. V2 offers both torque and horsepower. Inline 4’s and V4’s do not feel raw too me. Plus their torque is lower because the horsepower is higher in the rev range for the track. Monster keeps its horsepower and torque below 10,000 which makes the engine perfect for the street. Street bikes like the sweet spot(Goldilocks zone, 5000-9500 rpm.
@@Bugside I like the MT10 more, to each his own brother, even the Japanese have their own design elements going, which are more subtle, and they just work perfectly.
@@VinayKumar-db4qz well, great for you. The MT10 sounds cooler, seems more fun to ride, cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, more reliable, more unique, only think I personally (and most people) don't like much is its looks. (I can't afford either, so it doesn't even matter what I think anyway)
Good to hear a critical review, the Harley reviews have been a bit too glowing. Although maybe Ducati would disagree. I didn't find the riding position on the old air cooled monsters that quirky mind you, but I haven't ridden any of the newer models.
Another sunny day in Begonia Park, another great review. Air cooling has been a synonym for the naked urban warrior. With tighter emission laws, the inclination towards water cooling is understandable. My personal preference is the Scrambler though.
High beam on must have startled a few drivers. Commute aside, which is still one of the few content elements that still catch my eye from this channel, there are a few suggestions/ observations that hopefully help (some relate to the actual structure, some just suggestions for the presenter), so please bare with me here: - I still miss some close-ups of the bike in the intro. You stand far from the bike when describing styling details which cannot be conveyed from the distance- get closer to the bike please; - “more small”? I think we can still use “smaller” instead (it is one example, maybe minor, and I understand you need to focus on the riding also, but just a thought); - I understand that wheelie or backing it in were staples of the series, but maybe you can create some of your own; - Too much tongue rolling, mouth wetting (not sure how to call that noise) that is bothering, so please try to minimize as much as possible; - Found the more recent episodes somewhat dry, no real vibe coming through, so maybe it is worth considering a revamp of the series. All in all, as said above, I still prefer this series vs. other contents (scarce to be very honest) but you should aim at making it better. Recent tests were disappointing, so if you want to still generate new views and subscribers here, I think you all need to step it up a notch.
2 things. 1. The headlight on these bikes is actually one of the more common complaints. Even in high beam you’re not startling even the most nocturnal of creatures. 2. My really interesting (to me) complaint about this video is all the complaints he made about the previous generation and how much better this generation is than that, but when they reviewed the 2016 1200R they raved about how much fun it was to ride.
The headlight being bothersome all depends on where you are, a flashlight is bothersome waving around at night but you don't even notice it in the daytime. This is super sunny southern California where you need brights to be seen.
Great review!!! Perhaps in the future you could do a review of the 1260s Multistrada with the full electronic suspension. It would be nice to hear your thoughts on that bike...
@@pacman1789 Actually, that's how 'Ohlins' is pronounced. See video 17 seconds in: www.ohlinsusa.com/vehicle-dynamics-group and this: ua-cam.com/video/n-DQ9VvOPLg/v-deo.html Second video includes very familiar sounding tongue/roof of mouth smacking! Wow!
Great review, I really love a v twin there are few manufacturers that put them to use. I would really like to see Suzuki bring back the SV1000 just because Japanese bikes are less expensive to maintain and own. H-D 1200 sportster’s are about 12k to purchase and then to get the performance of the Ducati you would have to drop another 7-10k in upgrades. You could get a used one I suppose but I just don’t think you would get the performance that you do from the Ducati. So, at the price point, there is really nothing else out there in a V twin configuration.
@@SladeRenegade I'm an old timer and have hundreds of thousands of miles under the belt. However I live in the desert and don't squeeze between cars in the rain.
Great in depth review of my favorite motorcycle. Currently riding '05 S2R -1000. No lane splitting where I live so lots of pucker factor watching you diving between cars!
S2R 1000 is a fantastic bike, I ran one for over 50k miles and genuinely not one problem but i was using it nearly every day. If you run bikes more regular the less problems you have. Have an FZ8 now which is a lot more focussed and faster all round. Similar ergos. The 1200s and Tuono are the only bikes i think id swap the 8 for now. I think when folks moved to the Yamaha MT range they forgot what a bike the FZ8 is 😀 faster than tne MT07 and the MT09 probably faster than the MT10 too because you wont be abkerto throw the 10 into the bends like you cam with the 8
Nice comprehensive & honest review. Really like this bike but the price & complexity of the electronics also put me off to some degree but I guess if I owned one I would figure all the electronics out so that's not really a big deal. Also can't help thinking the standard version is a better bet as it's thousands cheaper than the S.
It would be nice, but this is more about commuting(no real pleasure) and not about having a good time(canyons and hooligan antics) as the title implies.
What is the point of reviewing a bike on a commute. Just saying I think the bike would shine on some twisties. 🤙🏼🏍. I love naked bikes and just wondering how this one can handle in the fun stuff. I'm a responsible hooligan.
@@stevenfortier6436 I use my bike as a tool, care very little what it does in the fun stuff. I'm convinced it's more than up to the task than I'll ever be(a mediocre rider).😁 So I happen to see the point. You'll probably be served better by other reviewer's style. NBD, there's plenty of those here(YT).
Jiga Bachi, ya I've always loved the look of the Ducati Monsters and was just more curious about them. I have a 13' Street Triple and love it. Lucky enough to live in northern Utah so we have plenty of canyons and realize we are spoiled up here but can only ride about half the year cause the snow/ favorite roads closed and gated for the winter. Can't wait till spring! That new Ducati Streetfighter looks super awesome though! Way out of my $ means though.
it is a city bike. yeah tell that to those who have felt the heat from a 1200cc engine from an italian engine. Also i think 140 hp is very few for the city. you need at least 250 to move
Just in time! i've been looking everywhere for the new monster. The MC Commute is always my first choice. Will you also do a video on the new Diavel 1260 S?
The false neutrals are a valid problem. You have to shift with force, or the shifter will go into Neverland between any two gears. I have this bike so that's really my only complaint. Other than that I love the bike.
I prefer the air cooled monsters as well. Although this is a very nice machine, the components to make this machine run are impossible to make ascetically pleasing.
maximus9401 Pretty sure the Monster 1200 is still $5K less than the Streetfighter V4, and in the past the Monster drastically outsold the Streetfighter. I love the old Streetfighter, but the new one just doesn’t do it for me. I think it’ll come down to whether the consumer is looking for pure performance numbers and is willing to pay for it.
As Alex points out there is a BIG price delta here between the two......I think that will separate them quite nicely. Probably just as good a question is how it will fare against it's own lower priced versions? AKA the 821, and the non "S" version of the 1200.
@@JohnConnor12 I have one and it's because he is not really in neutral... he is more between two gear... it's a Ducati... not the best bike for neutral finding but if you judge it for that it's because you never try one... easy way to find neutral is by giving a little gaz shot... 200 rpm and it will fall in neutral everytime
John Connor , not an electrical issue. Like the other person said, Ducati’s are my great with neutral. I have a 2019 Minster 1200S, I have that issue but would not trade my bike for anything.
Great review as always. Love your histories, specs, and Competitors comparisons. Your expertise of all bikes is impressive. l Iike to know histories of all my cars and bikes I own.
Tons of electronics but the neutral light doesn't even work on a brand new bike. Too much plastic. "Almost not too well proportioned ergonomics".. "It rained heavily last night, but we're going to leave the traction control off" Why? Accessories that create annoying sounds and situations...great... Display is too small and not touch screen... Menu options are via tons of button pushes. Great quick-shifting except when the gears go into "ghostland"... Great question, great question, great question, great question, great question...dude five times...we get it. And all that for $17,600? Forget it.
Love your ability to lane split there. The people in cars there drove so predictably and safely. I didn’t see one person make a dumb last minute move your entire commute. So peaceful. It’s not like that ANYWHERE in the Atlanta area (can’t lane split here anyway, but wouldn’t want to if I could).
6 years ago this Ducati Monster is most desirable Super Naked on the the market but . . . . . After 2016 onward KTM bring out 1290 SuperDuke R 2017 Yamaha MT-10 on 2020 This monster become commuters naked bikes after lose the battles with all competitors and younger model V4 StreetFighter
I stopped watching MC Commute for a while, because the audio was trash and I hardly understood anything. I didn't say anything at the time, even though it would be a feedback, I don't like to "complain". Well, I would like to say that now the audio is good, I can understand very well what you're talking, also, the camera is set in a good way too now.
Luciano Dellafiora honestly, really tempted to buy a 1050 Speed Triple... but I’m probably buying a Monster just because I’ve never owned a Ducati (currently on a 675 Speed Triple, a gsxr750 and a cb1100).
I guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. The Super Duke 1290 looks a lot "cleaner" (less noticeable cabling/hoses) to me, the engine particularly, and I really like the preying mantis styling. When Ducati ditched the retro styling and aircooled engine of the original Monster they lost the aesthetic appeal to me, and they still lag behind on performance as well.
I own a 2018 Monster 1200 S and everything you say is spot on, right down to the transmission with a few extra neutrals. The transmission does get better with more miles and a firm toe, but mine still likes to surprise me every now and then. For me, motorcycles are a purely emotional choice and this bike tugs at my heart strings, so I bought it. If you don't feel the same way, there are almost certainly better bikes for the money. Lastly, don't pay MSRP. I offered 16k for mine and the dealer accepted without blinking an eye, which leads me to believe I overpaid. The last time I was in a local dealer, they had a brand new 2018 marked down to 14k +freight/assembly and tax.
What fees do you & witch one you didn't? Was on cash deal
100% agreed on the emotional choice part. Fun factor & aesthetics combo unmatched.
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That's how many times Adam made that noise with his tongue and the roof of his mouth.
x ray I physically cringed anticipating every time it was about to hit my speakers
He did it 28 times. Count again.
Biggest reason why I don't watch these anymore.... If you can't watch your own video and cringe at it and attempt to improve them then you're not meant for this type of work.. Give this job to some other moto vlogger in CA who can memorize the PR sheet.
Lol first thing I noticed and I thought had anyone else... He's, everyone else did also.
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Have the 2015 monster 1200s,have run it 29000km`s and love it:)!
omegavoss me too I have a 2015 1200S Stripe and I really enjoy riding the thing. It’s a great bike!
That bike looks really sharp! The black paint scheme is perfect.
600 miles and already broken (no neutral light). It really is a Ducati!
Ah ah ! The myth, the legend, there is always a reminder to reactivate it :)
don't forget the squeaky brakes ~ LOL! Would still love one though.
Nonsense... there’s a position where the light will come on, he just didn’t have it exactly on point. This issue goes away after about 1000 miles, it’s a break in issue. Ducati’s are very tight from the factory and things need to break in nicely. I’ve owned 4 now over the last 5 years and have had literally zero problems with any of them, not even a single drop of oil on my garage floor. The bike isn’t fully broken in until after around 1500 miles. 600 miles is simply the dealer break in service where you’re allowed to rev higher etc.
If only the Yamaha MT10 looked this good it would be perfect!
Or you just buy this Ducati, I don't see the problem xD
@@G1lgamesj already had a monster 1200 S and an R model nice bikes but vibrates a lot
@@jimpanzer07 It's part of the charm, Ducati's are special. The sound is also unbeatable 😃
Love the MC Commutes. And I like the way you ride, Adam - lane-splitting everywhere, no blinkers and occasionally disregarding the speed limit. That's the way to go on two wheels in Cali. Thanks for the video review and keep the rubber side down (except the front once in awhile).
Haha the whole time im thinking, where the hell are the blinkers?!...the constant lane driftings.... splitting constantly. so weird to see from a different state (splitting is illegal here) X | good god thats screwy
Go check Royal Jordanian for proper filtering (Lane Splitting) in London
Did we watch the same video? At 5:38 he turns the blinkers on to switch lanes to the right (not sure why, didn't seem like there was anyone behind to benefit from it) then leaves it on past the junction (giving wrong information to anyone at the lights waiting to turn right), until 5:55. Blinkers come on again at 11:11 and stay on for no apparent reason until 11:27. At 18:47, when it would definitely have been good to indicate right, before taking the space that white car could have been gunning for, the blinker stayed off... then indicated left and merged to the right immediately after!
Not to mention the high beam being constantly on - why?
@@NooBiker Yeah, we watched the same video. We have different opinions about what we saw and remember.
Rizoma for Ducati accessories are quality. I’ve been decking out my little 797 with them a bit. Look forward to riding the 1200S one day 😊
Why all the complaints about his high beams on? In the daytime I have mine on all the time. The daytime running lights on cars are often their high beams on at reduced power, but there are two of them. I think bikes, especially without a fairing, are invisible with only low beams on. Maybe in the cloudy and darker euro zone high beams are not necessary but in Southern California or Arizona low beams are almost useless.
Frantic applause noises.👌🏻☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜)
Yep, I run mine all the time. I don't get all the hate. High beams on a bike are supposed to be the normal mode in my opinion.
Maybe if people now a days look at the road instead of their iPhone, they'd see motorcycles. Imagine back in the 80's and 90's when it was a low beam incandescent light and nobody had their high beams on.
I own the 2019, and I love it. I also have the 2012 Monster 1100 Evo. 6’2”, 225 lbs. 34 inch inseam. Bike fits me great. The 2019 engine is smoother than the 2012. I get false neutrals sometimes, but only when I’m lazy with my shifting, and using the clutch. No false neutrals experienced when using the Ducati quick shifter, i.e. without the clutch. Have less than 2000 miles on it, so I expect the false neutral problem will go away, as it did on the 2012. I think his mirrors were mounted upside down, btw, and yes that was off topic. Menu does take some extra time to make changes, but most changes are overkill. Make a decision and stick with it for several hundred miles. You’ll have forgotten how much time it took to make the changes faster than it took you to read this sentence. Riders are very different in what they like, so it’s great that Ducati provided a way to fine tune YOUR ride. But, again, once you make the changes, you’re set for a long time. Other than a Yamaha MT-10, which is less expensive, what else is in this class. Like the looks of this much more than the Yamaha. And the Yamaha is just another inline 4, so it sounds and feels like any other inline 4, which is great if that’s what you want. The 2012 1100 Evo rides rough, and makes you work all the time. The 2019 is smoother, but you still know you that you are riding a Monster. An inline 4 is smooth like butter, but can be boring, to me at least.
Had a 2016 monster 821 dark until somebody ran a red light and totalled it
Upgraded to this 1200s and it is awesome i live downtown and joy ride on the weekenda it big beautiful and sounds awesome the suspension is smooth
Have a track bike to run into the ground but out on the street im enjoying whipping around on this
Who percentage of daily commuters need 150hp+ for a daily commuter street bike?
2 yrs later. How is the monster 1200s??
I always loved the Ducati Monster
It’s a cool commuter bike!
Ducati fan but also liked the honest and candid reviews
It's cool to love one particular Kool-Aid flavor but not to claim it the be all end all. 👌🏻👍🏻😎
You gave me a heart attack with all the lane splitting!
You should see how we ride in India.
Try that out East and you'll get splashed in moments. SOOO polite out there in La La Land.
You should see how we lane split in Argentina
@@koongfu00 Lane-splitting is ALWAYS a dangerous game, anywhere! I've been riding in the New York area for 40+ years now... by the Grace of God and a lot of caution, I'm still riding. But probably the WORST situation is lane-splitting. Here. it is illegal, so the only time I will do it is when traffic goes below about 5 mph (10km/h?)... and even THEN you have to really go slowly and WATCH... covering your brakes. It's all Fun ....until suddenly it ISN'T. Motorcycles are Dangerous.
@@888jackflash we know, we are riders too, but it’s more dangerous (at least in my country) to stay between cars. In Argentina cars always invade your lane, you are dead meat if you stay in the middle of the lane between cars. The safest place to be with your bike is ahead of the traffic.
Love the torque of the testastrettas
Touch screen not required. Ride the bike. Adam was quite critical of the Monster 1200s and made comments re the appearance. I dont think black does the bike any favours really. Ducati has to be red thats how it is. Put a full termi or sc project exhaust on, dial in your suspension and it becomes a different bike and rather than tootle round for a few miles, go for a longer run, get that engine properly opened up and feel the difference. Sometimes these reviews just arent suitable for the bikes proper potential.
Sweet bike but the late braking and high speed filtering (imo) had me cringing. I can only imagine the filtering when there are no distractions 😬
I've been in Southern CA but just business trips, never on 2 wheels, so I spent a lot of time watching this just giving the surroundings a once over. Lots of fancy automobile hardware near Adam's house! I guess you get used to it but the lane splitting/filtering thing just looks effin crazy to this boy from New Jersey. You would not live long here doing that but I get it that drivers don't expect it here either. These bikes seem like a total hoot minus the nits. My 08 Hypermotard is big fun on the back roads here and would make a decent commuter if I didn't work from home. :-)
To be fair, lanesplitting isn't legal here in Jersey so of course noone would expect it. Meaning it would definitely be a poor decision to lanesplit...especially knowing how people drive here lol.
@@theguitarhero898 in my neck of the woods too but we still do it to keep moving. Drivers here play nice, sometimes they even pull over a little when traffic is totally at a stand still to let me filter.
I use common sense and stop lane splitting as soon a movement resumes and start moving with the traffic.
Adam, do you guys have any word yet of when Ducati will be sending you a streetfighter V4?
Hi JetNinjaMonkey, there is no timeline for your above question. Maybe we will ride one this summer sometime? Adam
It's really funny you mentioned the spacing of the bars and the pegs. I have shorter legs and a longer torso, so the spacing feels like the bike was custom made for me. I love the monster line of bikes.
As for false neutrals and hard to get into neutral - you get that in the first 1,000 miles, after that it is fine. Feels like a real bike that needs a real break-in period. As for quality of finish and reliability, beats my 2016 low mileage BMW GSA hands down. The GS shat its electronic rear suspension at 6,000 miles, luckily still under warranty as a replacement unit is 1500 + labour.
That's My Ride🤩
I love naked bikes! Ferrari and Lambo do not hide their engines. I own a 2014 Monster 1200 and a 2018 Super Duke 1290r. Able to see the motors. V2 offers both torque and horsepower. Inline 4’s and V4’s do not feel raw too me. Plus their torque is lower because the horsepower is higher in the rev range for the track. Monster keeps its horsepower and torque below 10,000 which makes the engine perfect for the street. Street bikes like the sweet spot(Goldilocks zone, 5000-9500 rpm.
If only Japanese bikes (cheap, reliable) looked this good
Nobody does Design like the Italians, but I think the Honda CBxxxR models look awesome.
Japanese bikes look the best.
@@VinayKumar-db4qz you're crazy, compare this one to an mt10
@@Bugside I like the MT10 more, to each his own brother, even the Japanese have their own design elements going, which are more subtle, and they just work perfectly.
@@VinayKumar-db4qz well, great for you. The MT10 sounds cooler, seems more fun to ride, cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, more reliable, more unique, only think I personally (and most people) don't like much is its looks.
(I can't afford either, so it doesn't even matter what I think anyway)
What a perfect commuter bike, lol!
Lane splitting like a champ.
Good to hear a critical review, the Harley reviews have been a bit too glowing. Although maybe Ducati would disagree. I didn't find the riding position on the old air cooled monsters that quirky mind you, but I haven't ridden any of the newer models.
Another sunny day in Begonia Park, another great review. Air cooling has been a synonym for the naked urban warrior. With tighter emission laws, the inclination towards water cooling is understandable. My personal preference is the Scrambler though.
you guys are lucky.. drive like this in my country you would defenetly lose your drivers licens. Love the Bike
When you see what they did with the new monster...it makes you want to cry and regret that one dearly.
High beam on must have startled a few drivers. Commute aside, which is still one of the few content elements that still catch my eye from this channel, there are a few suggestions/ observations that hopefully help (some relate to the actual structure, some just suggestions for the presenter), so please bare with me here:
- I still miss some close-ups of the bike in the intro. You stand far from the bike when describing styling details which cannot be conveyed from the distance- get closer to the bike please;
- “more small”? I think we can still use “smaller” instead (it is one example, maybe minor, and I understand you need to focus on the riding also, but just a thought);
- I understand that wheelie or backing it in were staples of the series, but maybe you can create some of your own;
- Too much tongue rolling, mouth wetting (not sure how to call that noise) that is bothering, so please try to minimize as much as possible;
- Found the more recent episodes somewhat dry, no real vibe coming through, so maybe it is worth considering a revamp of the series.
All in all, as said above, I still prefer this series vs. other contents (scarce to be very honest) but you should aim at making it better. Recent tests were disappointing, so if you want to still generate new views and subscribers here, I think you all need to step it up a notch.
LMFAO now this dude is a badass biker. Fuck yeah bro.
2 things.
1. The headlight on these bikes is actually one of the more common complaints. Even in high beam you’re not startling even the most nocturnal of creatures.
2. My really interesting (to me) complaint about this video is all the complaints he made about the previous generation and how much better this generation is than that, but when they reviewed the 2016 1200R they raved about how much fun it was to ride.
I Always ride with my high beams on during daylight. For safety. Its not blinding/dazzeling anyone in the daytime.
The headlight being bothersome all depends on where you are, a flashlight is bothersome waving around at night but you don't even notice it in the daytime. This is super sunny southern California where you need brights to be seen.
Great review!!! Perhaps in the future you could do a review of the 1260s Multistrada with the full electronic suspension. It would be nice to hear your thoughts on that bike...
heard that! We will see what we can do!
Svet or Svelte....? 😂
Lmao
The motte black Monster definitely has a svet tail.
He sounds drunk.
The Monster also has a very svet Ohleans suspension
@@pacman1789 Actually, that's how 'Ohlins' is pronounced.
See video 17 seconds in:
www.ohlinsusa.com/vehicle-dynamics-group
and this:
ua-cam.com/video/n-DQ9VvOPLg/v-deo.html
Second video includes very familiar sounding tongue/roof of mouth smacking! Wow!
Thanks Adam, a great mix of information and personal opinion. Really nailed why I have always liked MC commute.
Great review, I really love a v twin there are few manufacturers that put them to use. I would really like to see Suzuki bring back the SV1000 just because Japanese bikes are less expensive to maintain and own. H-D 1200 sportster’s are about 12k to purchase and then to get the performance of the Ducati you would have to drop another 7-10k in upgrades. You could get a used one I suppose but I just don’t think you would get the performance that you do from the Ducati. So, at the price point, there is really nothing else out there in a V twin configuration.
Lane splitting is illegal where I live and watching you split along with the camera angle is stressing me out every time.
Was I the only one stressing out because no traction control and wet roads in crazy traffic, lol.
How did us old timers ride back in the days without traction control....? Its called throttle control, learn it.
@@SladeRenegade I'm an old timer and have hundreds of thousands of miles under the belt. However I live in the desert and don't squeeze between cars in the rain.
@@SladeRenegade his overall riding style makes me cringe. It doesn't show throttle control at all, jerky revving is so annoying
Doesn't matter how may thousands of miles ridden, most bikers don't train themselves, don't do panic stops, don't push their comfort zones.
Great in depth review of my favorite motorcycle. Currently riding '05 S2R -1000.
No lane splitting where I live so lots of pucker factor watching you diving between cars!
S2R 1000 is a fantastic bike, I ran one for over 50k miles and genuinely not one problem but i was using it nearly every day. If you run bikes more regular the less problems you have. Have an FZ8 now which is a lot more focussed and faster all round. Similar ergos. The 1200s and Tuono are the only bikes i think id swap the 8 for now. I think when folks moved to the Yamaha MT range they forgot what a bike the FZ8 is 😀 faster than tne MT07 and the MT09 probably faster than the MT10 too because you wont be abkerto throw the 10 into the bends like you cam with the 8
You have the best job in the world.
Great video! Thanks for your honest opinions Adam
17 grand is a lot but the monster 821 gives you the same type of experience and look with a lot lower price tag. Thats the one i want
Nice comprehensive & honest review. Really like this bike but the price & complexity of the electronics also put me off to some degree but I guess if I owned one I would figure all the electronics out so that's not really a big deal. Also can't help thinking the standard version is a better bet as it's thousands cheaper than the S.
Wet roads seems to be a good opportunity to test traction control for us mere mortals.
Hey Adam, did you guys change cameras? Image quality seems better.
Maybe try going in the canyons or something so you can give a full review. Seems like that would be better than just guessing.
It would be nice, but this is more about commuting(no real pleasure) and not about having a good time(canyons and hooligan antics) as the title implies.
What is the point of reviewing a bike on a commute. Just saying I think the bike would shine on some twisties. 🤙🏼🏍. I love naked bikes and just wondering how this one can handle in the fun stuff. I'm a responsible hooligan.
@@stevenfortier6436 I use my bike as a tool, care very little what it does in the fun stuff.
I'm convinced it's more than up to the task than I'll ever be(a mediocre rider).😁
So I happen to see the point.
You'll probably be served better by other reviewer's style. NBD, there's plenty of those here(YT).
Jiga Bachi, ya I've always loved the look of the Ducati Monsters and was just more curious about them. I have a 13' Street Triple and love it. Lucky enough to live in northern Utah so we have plenty of canyons and realize we are spoiled up here but can only ride about half the year cause the snow/ favorite roads closed and gated for the winter. Can't wait till spring! That new Ducati Streetfighter looks super awesome though! Way out of my $ means though.
This is one of the beat motorcycles I've ever owned.
touch screen for a bike is a big mistake electronics ruin the bike and brake down very easily
yeah. Carbs were totally maintenance free 😂
How would you rate this Monster to the Aprilia Tuono ?
27year of perfection sport + sports -? U for real? Best one yet Ducati need to put the v4 in it
Why? Want a v4 get the SF or a tuono.
Beautiful bike.
it is a city bike. yeah tell that to those who have felt the heat from a 1200cc engine from an italian engine. Also i think 140 hp is very few for the city. you need at least 250 to move
Hahahahahaha so true
"It's in neutral but the neutral light hasn't engaged for some reason." So italian.
Awesome review from this dude per usual.
Just in time! i've been looking everywhere for the new monster. The MC Commute is always my first choice. Will you also do a video on the new Diavel 1260 S?
awesome to hear! When we give back the Monster we will see if we can snag a Diavel
@@MotorcyclistMag sounds good!
The false neutrals are a valid problem. You have to shift with force, or the shifter will go into Neverland between any two gears. I have this bike so that's really my only complaint. Other than that I love the bike.
What is "svet"?
He was trying to say "Svelte." I think....
A svelte lady who has come back from a workout.
Brazil: Congratulations for your amazing bike, I have one 2019, that vídeo is fantastic. Good very good!
Hi Adam, another fantastic review! Thank you, Andy, Toby and the rest for the fun on the E-Bike ride!!!
Hi Chris, thanks for taking the time out of your day to come visit us and go for a cycling ride.
its a 1200S 2018 with a new color for a much higher price. There I summed it up in 1 short sentence
A 2017 bike with a new paint job.
Please Lord why are these videos such hard work, the Yanks love the chat
I prefer the air cooled monsters as well. Although this is a very nice machine, the components to make this machine run are impossible to make ascetically pleasing.
Your a dangerous rider, for all.
Brake squeal, neutral light not coming on, rattling exhaust guard, and high price....yeah sounds pretty premium to me😒...
Who dislikes such great motorcycle content... smh😔
Heck of a brake Squeal on hard Stops , WTF 🙄‼️
yea found that weird... i have the '19 monster 821 and no brake sounds!
If the roads are wet it happens sometimes . Plus it's just needs lubrication behind the brakepads
With the Streetfighter coming out, interesting how this will hold up
maximus9401 Pretty sure the Monster 1200 is still $5K less than the Streetfighter V4, and in the past the Monster drastically outsold the Streetfighter. I love the old Streetfighter, but the new one just doesn’t do it for me. I think it’ll come down to whether the consumer is looking for pure performance numbers and is willing to pay for it.
It will hold up just fine. 2 different animals attending to different niches.
As Alex points out there is a BIG price delta here between the two......I think that will separate them quite nicely. Probably just as good a question is how it will fare against it's own lower priced versions? AKA the 821, and the non "S" version of the 1200.
Didn't even start the ride and the bike is already having electrical issues... One of the many reasons I'll never own another Ducati.
What is the elictral issue?
@@llBlindMolell
Neutral light didn't come on.
@@JohnConnor12 I have one and it's because he is not really in neutral... he is more between two gear... it's a Ducati... not the best bike for neutral finding but if you judge it for that it's because you never try one... easy way to find neutral is by giving a little gaz shot... 200 rpm and it will fall in neutral everytime
@@llBlindMolell
The gear indicator showed that it was in neutral, but the light didn't come on. That's an electrical issue. He even mentions it.
John Connor , not an electrical issue. Like the other person said, Ducati’s are my great with neutral. I have a 2019 Minster 1200S, I have that issue but would not trade my bike for anything.
those mirrors actually seem... not terrible
Dam, thats a nice neighborhood! Nice front yards with white picket fences!
The typical American Dream if I didn't know any better . . . 😁, key word, DREAM.😒💩👎🏻
Can u do cbr650r mc commute? Last time u only did the cb650r
Great review as always. Love your histories, specs, and Competitors comparisons. Your expertise of all bikes is impressive. l Iike to know histories of all my cars and bikes I own.
Good looking bike. Great power. Sold.
Tons of electronics but the neutral light doesn't even work on a brand new bike.
Too much plastic.
"Almost not too well proportioned ergonomics"..
"It rained heavily last night, but we're going to leave the traction control off" Why?
Accessories that create annoying sounds and situations...great...
Display is too small and not touch screen...
Menu options are via tons of button pushes.
Great quick-shifting except when the gears go into "ghostland"...
Great question, great question, great question, great question, great question...dude five times...we get it.
And all that for $17,600? Forget it.
Simple, classic, clean? No. A Monster should look like a gnarly Monster, as this one does.
I have a 19. I’m 6ft and it fits me perfectly. Put Rizoma bar on though.
@2:50 Looks like they went with molasses for brake fluid.
Wait... Touch screen??
Dear Yamaha :
Could you buy the FZ's, Mt's and XSR's headlights from Ducati?
It will improve their front end aesthetics big time!!
Big big time!!
Love your ability to lane split there. The people in cars there drove so predictably and safely. I didn’t see one person make a dumb last minute move your entire commute. So peaceful. It’s not like that ANYWHERE in the Atlanta area (can’t lane split here anyway, but wouldn’t want to if I could).
If Ducati had the reliability of my v strom and parts didn't cost as much as a used car !! I would buy one!!
Can you pls review ducati hypermotard
So has anything changed since the previous 1200?
Dream bike monster 1200 macho.see you bro.
6 years ago this Ducati Monster is most desirable Super Naked on the the market but . . . . . After 2016 onward KTM bring out 1290 SuperDuke R 2017 Yamaha MT-10 on 2020 This monster become commuters naked bikes after lose the battles with all competitors and younger model V4 StreetFighter
Does anyone know the answer here, is MY2017 the latest variant of the 1200 Monster? Were there any changes after this with the tech or configuration?
I stopped watching MC Commute for a while, because the audio was trash and I hardly understood anything. I didn't say anything at the time, even though it would be a feedback, I don't like to "complain". Well, I would like to say that now the audio is good, I can understand very well what you're talking, also, the camera is set in a good way too now.
the rain made me scared part lmaooo
Between this Monster 1200S and the Diavel 1260S ? What is the best ride? what would you get?
Which bike would you Choose over the monster 😀
Luciano Dellafiora honestly, really tempted to buy a 1050 Speed Triple... but I’m probably buying a Monster just because I’ve never owned a Ducati (currently on a 675 Speed Triple, a gsxr750 and a cb1100).
Top of the line Monster is not the S but the R version
Now he knows ducatis run hot. All the plastic over the motor is to cover the heat from the engine
Wish my Super Duke looked as good as this .... wouldn't trade but love the look!
the super duke has a childish look to it but it still looks better than the monster to me.
I guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. The Super Duke 1290 looks a lot "cleaner" (less noticeable cabling/hoses) to me, the engine particularly, and I really like the preying mantis styling. When Ducati ditched the retro styling and aircooled engine of the original Monster they lost the aesthetic appeal to me, and they still lag behind on performance as well.
svelte - adjective
\ ˈsvelt , ˈsfelt \
Definition -
1a: SLENDER, LITHE
b: having clean lines : SLEEK
2: URBANE, SUAVE
Ex: The styling of this particular Ducati is quite svelte.
Great review Adam!
it's beautiful
Doesnt the sun's heat affect the bike's LCD display when parked?
It does not affect the display.i have a 2019 Monster 1200S. And had a 2018 monster 821. The displays handle the heat fine.
It does bake the living shit out of them no matter what Ducati Kool-Aid drinkers claim.
Same happens A LOT to PWCs.
Show ,espero que venha pro Brasil ✊
Adam is great, he does great reviews
Have you ridden the 1290R? If you have: How would you say it compares to this in comfort? As in seating position and wind?