Handy links to build your own Prado, test drive the car or download a brochure: www.chasingcars.com.au/news/new-car-prices/thinking-about-buying-a-toyota-prado-take-the-next-step-with-chasing-cars/
Prado is just simply the best family all rounder, simple and comfortable, older now but tried and tested and you know will last the test of time, can't exactly say that about the Everest
I chuckle at the comments about the power. I had a 90 series Prado with the KZ motor (95kW) and since no-one told me that 'wasn't enough power' I spent 18 blissful years with the old girl doing 320,000km towing boats, caravans and bike trailers with tents on the roof, including a 18,000km round trip up through Africa, sometimes on virtually NO road at all. Part of the robustness is this vehicle (although it does not always look like it) is that it is not over stressed anywhere. It just does everything pretty well, and has an endurance range second to none with the 150l tank.
the things that most reviewers don't seem to comment on are the large fuel capacity ( dual tank option) and constant 4wd. features that no doubt are important to those who tow, and set it apart from other vehicles in the market. eg: if you tow a caravan you understand driving into a service station is not always easy. also having a reach adjustable steering wheel is good
This one doesn't have the duel tank only the rear spear wheel has that option. The only great thing about the Prado is its reliable and there are plenty of cheap spare parts to choose from. Other than that there are other SUVs that has way better interiors.
Loved the Prado forever, but moved to Canada just over a year ago and got the 4.0 V6 4Runner Limited. Closest thing to a Prado; basically the same size and purpose, and built at the same Japanese factory. Permanent 4WD in the Limited edition and actually drives more or less the same too. Lacks very few of the extra luxuries the Land Cruisers have, and so, all in all, not a bad alternative. The only local alternative (from Toyota) is the Lexus GX. For the price premium, I’ll take the 4Runner in pref. For a mix of on and off road, all three cars (4R, Prado, GX) are awesome.
They hit the sweet spot being most things to most people. For an active family, not much can touch a Prado, even though they aren't the most exciting thing out there. Comfortable, robust, roomy and efficient for the size. Eats up long trips so well. I reckon it’s better than a 200/300 off-road too with less weight and width for tracks.
I’m a VFII redline Ute and GTI owner. I wanted a touring vehicle for retirement in a couple of years. I looked at wide range of vehicles including dual cab utes etc. the 150kw and 500nm means that the Prado’s performance is now “adequate”. Once you get use to the relatively ponderous steering, you begin to appreciate the vehicles bulletproof nature and build quality and you’re sold. However other than the KDSS there was nothing to convince me that the VX level was the specification for couples.
I love my 2018 VX Prado. It feels as you drive it, rock solid. The floaty steering is not really a thing, compared to a small run about hatch or sedan, the steering is a bit looser, but this is a full size 4wd. The moment you take it off road, the steering makes so much sense. I bought mine because the LC200 did not have a diff lock. Also the safety specs are excellent, a child ran out in the parking lot in front of the Prado, the dash and screens lit up light a Christmas tree, the car stopped dead. No one was hurt etc. the all wheel drive and the 150L of fuel tank make it a beast.
I really love mine, it's a VX. I installed a throttle controller for when I tow or go offroad, it makes my life a lot easier for me when I can control how sensitive the throttle is. I like the simple buttons for the AC, and the way it works. The head unit doesn't upset me so much - I wouldn't have bought it without the factory Apple Carplay connection though. I am excited to see what engine the next Prado comes with, hopefully it has just a bit more power for suburban driving that will mitigate the constant hunting for gears.
Definitely a great tourer. Fit all terrain tyres and moderate off-roading can be achieved. I would prefer the tyre to be on the back and have extra fuel. It would be worth the wait for the next generation.
It is a long wait to get your hand on one of these cars , I’ve placed my order for the Kakadu on October last year 2021 and I was told last week that I would expect delivery end of may this year . 6 months of waiting!
Went into my local Toyota dealer 1 week ago and i will be getting mine at the end of this month 31st (VX). I got lucky tho as i picked up a canceled order but it's in Eclipse Black, really don't like black cars but it's that or wait a long time or if i was 2 hours faster i would've got a silver one :( Just have to check around for stock as some people cancel their orders but the cars are already on their way, it's what i did.
theres a ship from Japan full of 5,000 Prados in port melbourne awaiting unloading. Covid has wreaked havoc on supply chains and the ports workforce. Call around a few dealerships, like the other commenter I jagged one that somebody cancelled (still waited 2 months, but better than 6)
I got lucky, I ordered a Kakadu with flat tailgate pack in plain white which is a very low volume specification. I was told there was a six months waiting list. After 2 months the dealer called me and said they had my spec vehicle on the showroom floor, finance had fallen through with the original purchaser and I was next in line. If you want a GXL in silver you will have to fight people off with sticks.
I have a 2009 Kakadu with 160000k. It still drives like a new car and all I have had to do is service it. No rattles, no issues and on the open road it is excellent, comfy seats, good driving position and great vision. The 150 litre fuel tank is great for long distance driving.
When reviewing the so called Toyota “towing capacity”, you guys should go more into specifics regarding GVM, tow ball weight etc. At the end of the day, due consideration of the people on board, carrying capacity, being everything loaded into the vehicle & caravan must be duly considered. Just because manufacturers state the towing capacity, does not equate in the real world of what vehicles can actually pull safely!
I have a Kakadu with the new 19 inch rims, I don't like them, the ones on the VX look much better. 19 inch are useless off road, I have bought another set of 17 inch rims and decent off road tyres that I swap out when I need to. Prado is a bit of a pain driving in traffic and parking at the mall, which is why I have a small hatchback for the daily commute and save the Prado for the weekends.
@@user-vw7bx9ll8n Tyre and rim selection is whole subject on its own. The tyres fitted to all new Prados are biased towards road use with only mild off road so you need to change tyres if you want to do anything more than driving on gravel roads. You can’t get any decent 19 inch off road tyres. But biggest problem is the tyres on the 19 inch Kakadu rims are the same outside diameter as the tyres on the 17 inch GXL rims, but they have a much lower profile so there is less “meat” between the outside of the tyres and the rim. This makes the tyre much more prone to damage and you can’t deflate the tyres very much without destroying the tyres and rim if you hit a rock. I used 17inch rims from an FJ Cruiser and have BF Goodrich K02 tyres in 265/65/17 which is the same size rolling diameter as the factory 19 inch tyre (and same as the GXL tyre) which means the speedometer and gearing are unchanged.
Traded my diabolically bad MB GL320 on a 2021 Prado GLX, then my wife and I were both made 'Covid retirees' by downsizing companies. Almost accidentally bought a Jayco all-terrain tandem axle caravan and ran away July 2021 from Melbourne's lockdowns into NT and FNQ for the next 5 months. The Prado was bog standard, tyres and all. We towed the 2500kg van 17,000ks including about 600k of dirt and corries on the Savannah way up by the gulf between NT and QLD. Without the van we 'off-roaded' around the Centre, Kakadu and Lichfield. The Prado did it all totally effortlessly, the 150 litre tank meant no range concerns ever! The only upgrade we made was getting airbags fitted in the rear springs to level the ride while towing at TJM in Alice Springs, all for $650. Just due to bad luck we broke 2 windscreens during the trip, the great thing about having a Prado is parts are always on hand, no waiting. Being total novices at all this the Prados reliability, huge tank, capability and comfort made the trip easy.
that sounds like an incredible trip!! I have a 2021 GXL but am yet to take her outback... cant wait though. The dealer did warn me about the windscreen!! he said to get the additional windscreen insurance when i go off road
Check your towing weight - last time I checked it was 3000kg not 3500kg as stated by the reviewer; and colours are subjective, Ive got a Dusty Bronze Prado and love it
I’d like to see a ride comparison with the more affordable GXL and VX models which don’t have the Kakadu KDSS suspension as most Prado’s sold are the lower grade models.
Does the Kakadu model no longer have the 2nd row entertainment system for the kids? Yes iPads are a thing, but for touring purposes, you want the kids looking up and not down. Did the 2nd row have 2 usb or c outlets to charge two devices?
We have a 2021VX which is a fine vehicle to tow our 20 foot van. Why does nobody mention the appalling quality of the cameras? It is like Vaseline has been smeared on every lens. The rear camera mount also needs to be modified to see the tow ball in the screen on dash. These are small things but when you pay over 75k for a vehicle it should be better. Also a 12 volt power outlet in boot should be standard along with the 100watt 240 AC outlet which my auto sparky has advised not to use on extended trips as it will over heat.
@@rich9903 We have had Lovells Adelaide install a GVM/GCM upgrade. Went over weigh bridge before upgrade to check our weights and soon realised the problem. Still no mention of bad screen or out dated infotainment system.
I have one of these like yours on 19 inch wheels. Now i need new tyres and the choice is limited compared to other rim sizes. 19 inch came standard and I wish I had picked up on that when ordering. Be aware
Those 2 cars are ute based. Prado is a wagon designed from the ground up. 150lt tank is epic for touring. Also, 10k service intervals is annoying but that’s why these things go forever. I’ve done 140k in just over 3 years, feels the same as the day I bought it. I also reckon the Japanese build is superior to that of Thailand.
Longer than 10k or 6months will hurt diesels reliability long term. Should be really every 5k you should change the oil in a diesel to be honest if you have been towing a lot etc.
Only if you add them yourself, which I did; my additional USBs are all connected to the seconds battery, installed at the same time to ensure continuous USB power, not just when the ignition is on.
Agree. Ive been a toyota nut for years and need a replacement for my old hiace supercustom. Always thought i would get a prado but after much research i may go for a volvo xc90. Way more space inside than a prado and apart from offroad capability just as much functionality if not more.
@@rwdrallying Get on good terms with your mechanic and keep your cheque book ready. You’re in for a shock after stepping out of a Toyota. Servicing and spares are pricey and the customer service is shite from Volvo.
Ah yes, the mighty Prado. In my home country, every government official has one. Basically you're either someone important or wealthy to own one. Funny how that works now living in the US. If I wanted to buy an equivalent, I would have to go with a top spec GX460. Not worth the money imo. I opted a 4runner and I love it. The Prado is still a good platform, but it badly needs an update.
Only get one if you’re actually going to be towing heavy stuff (e.g. boat or caravan) or going to be doing off-road 4WDriving. otherwise, in my opinion, there are far better cars in this segment if people are just looking for a mid to large SUV (I.e. cheaper, newer design, more technology, quieter, etc.)
@@kalsikml Yeah i would like to know that as well, out of everything i test drive the Prado felt the best to be honest. It also can off road / dirt roads better than anything else as well. Being 6'3 i fit in this very comfortably unlike most of the other SUVs around.
Needs more power... Perhaps the 3.3 and 3.5 twin turbo V6s in the 300 series. Would sell like hot cakes and would probably devour sales of cars like Land Rovers
Please do a review on the Fortuner Crusade with the new added safety features to aid people in buying these ladder frame chassis cars. Or a Vs battle royal review, LC Prado, Fortuner, Pajero Sport, MUX and Everest. Great video as always. Keep up the good job!
It's still a tough lugger. Its still relevant. Biggest change should occur within the next 12 to 18 months where it's expected to get a single turbo variant of the LC300 's turbo diesel. Then again Toyota may surprise us with the Ttd from the 300 with the same power & torque outputs. Would be an absolute winner when that occurs.
I like the 3door too, but not many..I have one 2019 with VX trim. The problem; we only get it with the 4cyl petrol 2.7 lts Actually here (Chile) the 5 door version is offered only with the 4.0 lt petrol as the 4runner, not even the 2.8 diesel.. The 2.7 is an extremely good engine (very old and evolved), but damn underpower for this application..
I actually drive the Kakkadu version which has the air suspension and all but the only great thing about the Prado is its reliable and there are plenty of cheap spare parts to choose from. Other than that plenty of other SUVs have better interiors.
@@ronbeattie2638 if you put the comfort mode it's actually pretty good but you cant use it on the highway it feels like your going on a boat. So the normal setting does the job. If you lift up the air suspension high and go on pot holes and bumpy roads u hardly feel them.
Rear cargo area disappointing, very small & no decent tiedown points, no cigarette outlet in rear cargo area & the 2.8 Litre engine is lethargic. Give me the 3.0 litre any day. I tow a 18 ft caravan. It is a great off road vehicle.
@@atthesunyousee the Prado and land cruisers have an issue with body roll.. it might be difficult to understand until you drive something like the Range Rover, and you will feel the difference, Land Cruiser is not cheap, Toyota needs to improve the engineering and design to give it a stable stance , Nissan Patrol has overcame this problem. This being said, Land Cruiser is by far the best car off-road car, but who would be driving all the time off-road! I know reliability and resale is another factor, but patrol or ford raptors would win in the body roll factor. You may watch more reviews by criticizing people who value driving fun, not only reliability and resale.
@@jhref LandCruiser Prado = Prado. It's the same thing. Its full name actually is 'LandCruiser Prado', we just call it the 'Prado' because it's easier.
You lose more than "a little" fuel capacity. 150L downsized to 87L. That's a loss of 63L which if you calculate alone the tested fuel economy 10.5L per 100km. 63L ÷ 10.5 = approx 600km range LESS. Also comparing a Pallisade to a Prado couldn't be anymore different, e.g minivan cross over vs full time 4x4 body on frame construction. Otherwise good review !
I agree the comparison between pallisade and prado on the surface doesnt make sense. Its just that most Prado buyers stick to the pavement in town, when really they should have bought a Pallisade or mini-van to begin with as its objectively better around town.
@@b3nz0r12 Alot of people buy a Prado because it has that actually solid build quality with little to no body flex thus no creaks, etc Where as the Pallisade is just a Carnival with an SUV look & crude suspension setup. Although the Santa Fe, Sorrento, etc share the same platform, in my opinion they're significantly better built by comparison to the Pallisade.
@@sunitapardeshi5537 The Fortuner does not have the same plush ride as the Prado. It feels quite harsh to me. And most Australians did not like the original front bumper design. However the redesigned front bumper looks more appealing, as well as the higher torque output from the engine (500 Nm)
Would love a prado as the 300 series is a bit big for me due to how much city driving I do, however engine outdated, tech outdated and it just puts me off buying one, heck even the 300 series the tech isn't the best and no where near the competition.
Because of build quality. Open the tailgate of a brand new 2022 Discovery 5 and see where the tailgate has rubbed against the top of the bumper. This was a known issue going back several years. They certainly don't practice Kaizen.
I went for an extended test drive in the Prado VX and was appalled buy the incessant cabin rattles and squeaks and not to mention the inconsistent finish and fit. Vehicle only had 137kms on the odometer. Next day took a drive in the Hyundai Palisade Highlander and after 10 minutes behind the wheel, told the salesman, ''I'll take it''.
Different cars but congrats on the purchase. If setting off around Australia there's no other vehicle than a Toyota that I would consider. Reliability and access to dealers is paramount.
I've had quite a few of these as company cars over the last two decades. They're not crap at all but not great either (especially for the price). Just a Hilux wagon really. Have a whiff of old mans car about them.
@@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt Not according to the buying public, seeing as it's a body on frame 7 seater with the same engine and is over $10k cheaper than the Prado and yet sales are about a fifth if that. I think if Toyota left the front exactly the same as the Hilux like ford do with the Everest they might sell some more.
A update to the Toyota prado with a better and neat interior and exterior and a quite an additional fine features from the exterior access and a better and comfort seating arrangements and again a tough and sensible look and equipped of a proper off-road suv👍
The air vents in the centre are positioned just right, however the remainder of the interior is awful, if the previous generation infotainment response times are in any way a metric for this model then shame on you Toyota, that said it will sell well because the sheeple will line up for this like they are outside waiting for the next iphone release. Undeniably it's a fact marketing dollars work in Australia.
The problem is there just aren’t many other options. I’m wanting a full time 4wd that’s reliable, can go off road. It’s superior to the fortuner. The Everest isn’t up to par with the prado and the 300 is too expensive and unnecessary. I just wish there were more options in this segment. But sadly I have to be one of the sheeple because there’s just nothing else that competes with this. I’m waiting to see if there’s talk of the next model so hopefully they’ll get the interior features up to modern day specs. Saying that, that’s not Toyotas strong point as you can see with the 300. Hopefully will see a more powerful engine too.
Toyota could care less ha ha, people just buys the cars based on the so called reputation.. they always do the bare minimum, but they are one of the most successful companies in the world.
Having cut my teeth on Series 2 land Rovers and Ford F150's I am somewhat disappointed at how reviews these days spend more time on avionics (sorry, infotainment), USB points and nik-nak storage bins than they do on the way the 4 WD systems works.
Before you put your money on a Prado, go test drive the Ssangyong Rexton. I used to drive Lexus NX which was a great car, but I'm much happier with my Ssangyong now. Besides offering all the 4x4 towing capabilities the Prado has, the Ssangyong in my opinion has a far smoother engine and quieter cabin for 30-40k less. Now that they have found a new buyer, the ownership risk is low. You'll find it hard to justify the price premium the Prado demands if you ever drive both back to back
@@w1ldm4n82 Agreed. But I was talking to 99% of people who will never go off road yet are still considering one of these body on frame SUVs. If used as family wagon and for towing, it is a no brainer to get a Rexton and keep 30k in your pocket
@@jinsei1202 well, the new isuzu mu-x, while seeing an inflation due to it being an all-new model, is a much better alternative then. The rexton is attractive but it's hard to consider it given that ssangyong has also become bankrupt not more than a few years ago.
@@w1ldm4n82Have you ever driven both? Rexton has also gone through a comprehensive update just a year ago. Mux is great but being slightly newer doesn’t justify the 20k difference. I’ve driven both back to back and can testify Rexton was superior in every respect. Ssangyong has found a new owner so the ownership risk has been alleviated.
@@jinsei1202 umm in every respect? Like i said, it has poor angles to use for off-roading as well as low ground clearance and also it isn't as tough or robust looking as the other suvs in the segment. So quit smoking meth, fanboy.
10.000km service is terrible for a car that is made to drive long (outback) distances, I'm never going to buy a car which makes me loose 3days a year because of service.
@@chasingcars When an auto journalist reviews a sports car they include relevant information on the performance and handling of the vehicle, regardless of the fact that a soccer mum may chose to purchase one. Hence your excuse does not cut it. So, the response is no, you and most journos do not do "a good job" of reviewing 4wd vehicles.
With the new Fortuner being as good as it is, I don’t really see spending the extra money to get a prado. The new Land Cruiser 300 is a totally different ball game.
Handy links to build your own Prado, test drive the car or download a brochure: www.chasingcars.com.au/news/new-car-prices/thinking-about-buying-a-toyota-prado-take-the-next-step-with-chasing-cars/
Prado is just simply the best family all rounder, simple and comfortable, older now but tried and tested and you know will last the test of time, can't exactly say that about the Everest
I chuckle at the comments about the power. I had a 90 series Prado with the KZ motor (95kW) and since no-one told me that 'wasn't enough power' I spent 18 blissful years with the old girl doing 320,000km towing boats, caravans and bike trailers with tents on the roof, including a 18,000km round trip up through Africa, sometimes on virtually NO road at all. Part of the robustness is this vehicle (although it does not always look like it) is that it is not over stressed anywhere. It just does everything pretty well, and has an endurance range second to none with the 150l tank.
Expectations of power change over time. That's the free market for you.
100% agree, I have driven Hiluxes through Africa and not once did I ask or worry about the KW...it just goes where I want it to.
the things that most reviewers don't seem to comment on are the large fuel capacity ( dual tank option) and constant 4wd. features that no doubt are important to those who tow, and set it apart from other vehicles in the market. eg: if you tow a caravan you understand driving into a service station is not always easy. also having a reach adjustable steering wheel is good
Also there enough room under the bonnet for a decent auxiliary battery
This one doesn't have the duel tank only the rear spear wheel has that option. The only great thing about the Prado is its reliable and there are plenty of cheap spare parts to choose from. Other than that there are other SUVs that has way better interiors.
@@thelonewolf666 are you talking about the latest model?
Loved the Prado forever, but moved to Canada just over a year ago and got the 4.0 V6 4Runner Limited. Closest thing to a Prado; basically the same size and purpose, and built at the same Japanese factory. Permanent 4WD in the Limited edition and actually drives more or less the same too. Lacks very few of the extra luxuries the Land Cruisers have, and so, all in all, not a bad alternative. The only local alternative (from Toyota) is the Lexus GX. For the price premium, I’ll take the 4Runner in pref. For a mix of on and off road, all three cars (4R, Prado, GX) are awesome.
They hit the sweet spot being most things to most people. For an active family, not much can touch a Prado, even though they aren't the most exciting thing out there. Comfortable, robust, roomy and efficient for the size. Eats up long trips so well. I reckon it’s better than a 200/300 off-road too with less weight and width for tracks.
Delica?
Nice one.
I’m a VFII redline Ute and GTI owner. I wanted a touring vehicle for retirement in a couple of years. I looked at wide range of vehicles including dual cab utes etc. the 150kw and 500nm means that the Prado’s performance is now “adequate”.
Once you get use to the relatively ponderous steering, you begin to appreciate the vehicles bulletproof nature and build quality and you’re sold.
However other than the KDSS there was nothing to convince me that the VX level was the specification for couples.
I love my 2018 VX Prado. It feels as you drive it, rock solid. The floaty steering is not really a thing, compared to a small run about hatch or sedan, the steering is a bit looser, but this is a full size 4wd. The moment you take it off road, the steering makes so much sense. I bought mine because the LC200 did not have a diff lock. Also the safety specs are excellent, a child ran out in the parking lot in front of the Prado, the dash and screens lit up light a Christmas tree, the car stopped dead. No one was hurt etc. the all wheel drive and the 150L of fuel tank make it a beast.
Oh wow so collision detection works at car park speed? Didn't realise the vx was capable of that
I really love mine, it's a VX. I installed a throttle controller for when I tow or go offroad, it makes my life a lot easier for me when I can control how sensitive the throttle is. I like the simple buttons for the AC, and the way it works. The head unit doesn't upset me so much - I wouldn't have bought it without the factory Apple Carplay connection though. I am excited to see what engine the next Prado comes with, hopefully it has just a bit more power for suburban driving that will mitigate the constant hunting for gears.
You have the 150kw engine? Does it not have a sport mode button to sharpen throttle?
@@cjwest9094 It doesn't
Definitely a great tourer. Fit all terrain tyres and moderate off-roading can be achieved. I would prefer the tyre to be on the back and have extra fuel. It would be worth the wait for the next generation.
It is a long wait to get your hand on one of these cars , I’ve placed my order for the Kakadu on October last year 2021 and I was told last week that I would expect delivery end of may this year . 6 months of waiting!
Went into my local Toyota dealer 1 week ago and i will be getting mine at the end of this month 31st (VX). I got lucky tho as i picked up a canceled order but it's in Eclipse Black, really don't like black cars but it's that or wait a long time or if i was 2 hours faster i would've got a silver one :( Just have to check around for stock as some people cancel their orders but the cars are already on their way, it's what i did.
theres a ship from Japan full of 5,000 Prados in port melbourne awaiting unloading. Covid has wreaked havoc on supply chains and the ports workforce. Call around a few dealerships, like the other commenter I jagged one that somebody cancelled (still waited 2 months, but better than 6)
I got lucky, I ordered a Kakadu with flat tailgate pack in plain white which is a very low volume specification. I was told there was a six months waiting list. After 2 months the dealer called me and said they had my spec vehicle on the showroom floor, finance had fallen through with the original purchaser and I was next in line. If you want a GXL in silver you will have to fight people off with sticks.
Looking forward to my new Prado VX in April . Yes baby.
I have a 2009 Kakadu with 160000k. It still drives like a new car and all I have had to do is service it. No rattles, no issues and on the open road it is excellent, comfy seats, good driving position and great vision. The 150 litre fuel tank is great for long distance driving.
Same here, we have the 4.0 V6.
Went to drive the new 2.8 Prado and still wouldn’t trade our old Prado for this one.
@@dianvandermerwe 100%, there is a reason why the rest of the world is predominantly petrol. Diesel RATTLES like a tractor
Yep same. Keeping our 4.0 V6 Kakadu for a long while yet👍
The tail light has maintained its beauty since 2010
When reviewing the so called Toyota “towing capacity”, you guys should go more into specifics regarding GVM, tow ball weight etc. At the end of the day, due consideration of the people on board, carrying capacity, being everything loaded into the vehicle & caravan must be duly considered. Just because manufacturers state the towing capacity, does not equate in the real world of what vehicles can actually pull safely!
I have a Kakadu with the new 19 inch rims, I don't like them, the ones on the VX look much better. 19 inch are useless off road, I have bought another set of 17 inch rims and decent off road tyres that I swap out when I need to. Prado is a bit of a pain driving in traffic and parking at the mall, which is why I have a small hatchback for the daily commute and save the Prado for the weekends.
Kakadu is my dream! i have a new GXL. Can you explain why the 19 inch rims are no good off road? i'm new to 4WDing, ta
@@user-vw7bx9ll8n Tyre and rim selection is whole subject on its own. The tyres fitted to all new Prados are biased towards road use with only mild off road so you need to change tyres if you want to do anything more than driving on gravel roads. You can’t get any decent 19 inch off road tyres. But biggest problem is the tyres on the 19 inch Kakadu rims are the same outside diameter as the tyres on the 17 inch GXL rims, but they have a much lower profile so there is less “meat” between the outside of the tyres and the rim. This makes the tyre much more prone to damage and you can’t deflate the tyres very much without destroying the tyres and rim if you hit a rock.
I used 17inch rims from an FJ Cruiser and have BF Goodrich K02 tyres in 265/65/17 which is the same size rolling diameter as the factory 19 inch tyre (and same as the GXL tyre) which means the speedometer and gearing are unchanged.
Traded my diabolically bad MB GL320 on a 2021 Prado GLX, then my wife and I were both made 'Covid retirees' by downsizing companies. Almost accidentally bought a Jayco all-terrain tandem axle caravan and ran away July 2021 from Melbourne's lockdowns into NT and FNQ for the next 5 months. The Prado was bog standard, tyres and all. We towed the 2500kg van 17,000ks including about 600k of dirt and corries on the Savannah way up by the gulf between NT and QLD. Without the van we 'off-roaded' around the Centre, Kakadu and Lichfield. The Prado did it all totally effortlessly, the 150 litre tank meant no range concerns ever! The only upgrade we made was getting airbags fitted in the rear springs to level the ride while towing at TJM in Alice Springs, all for $650. Just due to bad luck we broke 2 windscreens during the trip, the great thing about having a Prado is parts are always on hand, no waiting. Being total novices at all this the Prados reliability, huge tank, capability and comfort made the trip easy.
that sounds like an incredible trip!! I have a 2021 GXL but am yet to take her outback... cant wait though. The dealer did warn me about the windscreen!! he said to get the additional windscreen insurance when i go off road
Check your towing weight - last time I checked it was 3000kg not 3500kg as stated by the reviewer; and colours are subjective, Ive got a Dusty Bronze Prado and love it
Yes, it’s 3000kg as noted in our description
Well suite to a caravan with an ATM of around 2500.
Yes that surprised me too when he said 3500 towing. I have the MY21 Oct 2020 build VX and it’s definitely only 3,000 kilos towing capacity.
I’d like to see a ride comparison with the more affordable GXL and VX models which don’t have the Kakadu KDSS suspension as most Prado’s sold are the lower grade models.
Does the Kakadu model no longer have the 2nd row entertainment system for the kids? Yes iPads are a thing, but for touring purposes, you want the kids looking up and not down. Did the 2nd row have 2 usb or c outlets to charge two devices?
Kakadu still has the Blu-ray unit in the ceiling.
Neighbour has a Prado… I used to love them… but now think of them equivalent to tractors
We have a 2021VX which is a fine vehicle to tow our 20 foot van. Why does nobody mention the appalling quality of the cameras? It is like Vaseline has been smeared on every lens. The rear camera mount also needs to be modified to see the tow ball in the screen on dash. These are small things but when you pay over 75k for a vehicle it should be better. Also a 12 volt power outlet in boot should be standard along with the 100watt 240 AC outlet which my auto sparky has advised not to use on extended trips as it will over heat.
Wow!!! A 20ft van!! How’s your GVM/GCM limits looking and also the general vehicle road handling?
@@rich9903 We have had Lovells Adelaide install a GVM/GCM upgrade. Went over weigh bridge before upgrade to check our weights and soon realised the problem. Still no mention of bad screen or out dated infotainment system.
I have one of these like yours on 19 inch wheels. Now i need new tyres and the choice is limited compared to other rim sizes. 19 inch came standard and I wish I had picked up on that when ordering. Be aware
Great platform, but what fails it is the interior and infotainment.
Will this paint work hold the resale value
Does Kakadu includes tow bar in the drive away price or is it a separate accessory?
It takes him 1:10 to mention its a Kakadu model he's reviewing. Could have mention that in the title.
Prado Kakadu is displayed on screen 4 seconds into the video
Is the Prado refresh not due until 2024?? That’s a big delay!
That's what we are hearing, though it might come early in 2023.
How tall is its Prado??? The Stats Sheet says 1850mm but it looks like 1950mm?? Thanks
2.8T diesel with 6 month service intervals.... Why not MU-X or Pajero sport?
Those 2 cars are ute based. Prado is a wagon designed from the ground up. 150lt tank is epic for touring. Also, 10k service intervals is annoying but that’s why these things go forever. I’ve done 140k in just over 3 years, feels the same as the day I bought it. I also reckon the Japanese build is superior to that of Thailand.
Longer than 10k or 6months will hurt diesels reliability long term. Should be really every 5k you should change the oil in a diesel to be honest if you have been towing a lot etc.
pajero sports ride is way worse for one
Is a used Toyota Prado available for sale
Is “in call volume” still an issue when connected to CarPlay on VX and Kakadu models with the JBL audio ?
No the call volume issue was fixed with a software fix mid 2021.
I didn't buy a Prado for the same reasons I haven't bought the LC300 - I can't afford it :)
i think i love the paint work
You could put 4 Cascade lites in the cooler box
Are there USB ports in the 2nd row?
Only if you add them yourself, which I did; my additional USBs are all connected to the seconds battery, installed at the same time to ensure continuous USB power, not just when the ignition is on.
@@stuartferguson7947 cig socket with an adaptor works fine for me
@@eyeLikeCarrots - but it’s only on while the ignition is on - I require power when it’s not hence the second battery strategy
As someone who worked for Toyota for many years. I can't for the life of me understand why so many people pay such a premium for their 4x4 vehicles.
Agree. Ive been a toyota nut for years and need a replacement for my old hiace supercustom. Always thought i would get a prado but after much research i may go for a volvo xc90. Way more space inside than a prado and apart from offroad capability just as much functionality if not more.
@@rwdrallying
Get on good terms with your mechanic and keep your cheque book ready. You’re in for a shock after stepping out of a Toyota. Servicing and spares are pricey and the customer service is shite from Volvo.
Reliability and cost of maintenance. Though I agree they are overpriced especially since they lack premium features for the price
Great cars! Towing the boat, 4wd or highway
Ah yes, the mighty Prado. In my home country, every government official has one. Basically you're either someone important or wealthy to own one. Funny how that works now living in the US. If I wanted to buy an equivalent, I would have to go with a top spec GX460. Not worth the money imo. I opted a 4runner and I love it.
The Prado is still a good platform, but it badly needs an update.
Only get one if you’re actually going to be towing heavy stuff (e.g. boat or caravan) or going to be doing off-road 4WDriving. otherwise, in my opinion, there are far better cars in this segment if people are just looking for a mid to large SUV (I.e. cheaper, newer design, more technology, quieter, etc.)
Exactly
And what are those better cars ?
@@kalsikml Yeah i would like to know that as well, out of everything i test drive the Prado felt the best to be honest. It also can off road / dirt roads better than anything else as well. Being 6'3 i fit in this very comfortably unlike most of the other SUVs around.
But then if one is not going off road, why not simply opt for a car.
Definitely agree with you on the alloys. I equally prefer the ones prior to the upgrade.
Strangely, these wheels look much better on a different colour car, like graphite.
Needs more power... Perhaps the 3.3 and 3.5 twin turbo V6s in the 300 series. Would sell like hot cakes and would probably devour sales of cars like Land Rovers
it would also cut sales into the 300 series and it's why it will not happen.
Rumours are floating about for a detuned v6 from the Lc300 being slotted into a GR series Prado....
@@nathanielcatsicas9792 I can’t see Toyota investing any money in major Prado150 upgrades when a whole new model is due in late 2023.
no way this thing is more stable than the patrol in corners.
It is.
Please do a review on the Fortuner Crusade with the new added safety features to aid people in buying these ladder frame chassis cars. Or a Vs battle royal review, LC Prado, Fortuner, Pajero Sport, MUX and Everest. Great video as always. Keep up the good job!
kove it. am acquiring prado very soon.
Yes ,best car in the world
Im going to buy one! im uk Guy and i can easy forget Landrover!
The best of the best!!!!
Best car most certainly
Android auto? This particular reviewer only ever mentioned Apple carplay 🤦
It's still a tough lugger. Its still relevant. Biggest change should occur within the next 12 to 18 months where it's expected to get a single turbo variant of the LC300 's turbo diesel. Then again Toyota may surprise us with the Ttd from the 300 with the same power & torque outputs. Would be an absolute winner when that occurs.
Haha Toyota won't do the latter and shoot themselves on foot with LC sales. NEVER happening
We want to know the price of your cars
OK on the main roads but not so good off road in the desert in Saudi Arabia.
They are the only SUV that is also an excellent off roader
But like. dual cab utes the bulk of them never go off road driven NY soccer mom's ferry the kids around
Wish toyota would make more 3 door Prado with luxury upgrades
I like the 3door too, but not many..I have one 2019 with VX trim. The problem; we only get it with the 4cyl petrol 2.7 lts Actually here (Chile) the 5 door version is offered only with the 4.0 lt petrol as the 4runner, not even the 2.8 diesel..
The 2.7 is an extremely good engine (very old and evolved), but damn underpower for this application..
I actually drive the Kakkadu version which has the air suspension and all but the only great thing about the Prado is its reliable and there are plenty of cheap spare parts to choose from. Other than that plenty of other SUVs have better interiors.
What is the ride like in the Kakadu on rough suburban roads at suburban speeds. Comfortable or?
@@ronbeattie2638 if you put the comfort mode it's actually pretty good but you cant use it on the highway it feels like your going on a boat. So the normal setting does the job. If you lift up the air suspension high and go on pot holes and bumpy roads u hardly feel them.
Hermoso color champaña
Rear cargo area disappointing, very
small & no decent tiedown points, no cigarette outlet in rear cargo area & the 2.8 Litre engine is lethargic. Give me the 3.0 litre any day. I tow a 18 ft caravan. It is a great off road vehicle.
It should be called the best body rolling SUV. Strange engineering.
Why so?
@@atthesunyousee the Prado and land cruisers have an issue with body roll.. it might be difficult to understand until you drive something like the Range Rover, and you will feel the difference, Land Cruiser is not cheap, Toyota needs to improve the engineering and design to give it a stable stance , Nissan Patrol has overcame this problem. This being said, Land Cruiser is by far the best car off-road car, but who would be driving all the time off-road! I know reliability and resale is another factor, but patrol or ford raptors would win in the body roll factor. You may watch more reviews by criticizing people who value driving fun, not only reliability and resale.
@@user-rx8qq8sk9ydv1ce5ib makes sense and I guess Al have to do more research on it but thanks for the explanation.
So what's the difference between this, a LandCruiser and a LandCruiser Prado?
This is a Land Cruiser Prado
@@chasingcars Ah ok. So is there just a normal Prado? Is this a spec of that?
@@jhref Yes, the Kakadu us the high spec Land Crusier Prado.
@@jhref LandCruiser Prado = Prado. It's the same thing. Its full name actually is 'LandCruiser Prado', we just call it the 'Prado' because it's easier.
About $30-$40k lol
You lose more than "a little" fuel capacity. 150L downsized to 87L. That's a loss of 63L which if you calculate alone the tested fuel economy 10.5L per 100km.
63L ÷ 10.5 = approx 600km range LESS.
Also comparing a Pallisade to a Prado couldn't be anymore different, e.g minivan cross over vs full time 4x4 body on frame construction.
Otherwise good review !
I agree the comparison between pallisade and prado on the surface doesnt make sense. Its just that most Prado buyers stick to the pavement in town, when really they should have bought a Pallisade or mini-van to begin with as its objectively better around town.
@@b3nz0r12 Alot of people buy a Prado because it has that actually solid build quality with little to no body flex thus no creaks, etc
Where as the Pallisade is just a Carnival with an SUV look & crude suspension setup. Although the Santa Fe, Sorrento, etc share the same platform, in my opinion they're significantly better built by comparison to the Pallisade.
Is this Australia's equivalent model of Toyota Fortuner that are sold in South-east Asia?
Fortuner does come with same engine but a Prado is made in Japan and is easily better than Fortuner.
No, the Fortuner is also sold in Australia. But not a popular vehicle, like the Prado.
@@tempestv8 Australians would buy Fortuner if the Prado costed 1,75,107.66 Australian Dollar.
no the fortuner is the suv version of the hilux but those three cars share the same engine.
@@sunitapardeshi5537 The Fortuner does not have the same plush ride as the Prado. It feels quite harsh to me. And most Australians did not like the original front bumper design. However the redesigned front bumper looks more appealing, as well as the higher torque output from the engine (500 Nm)
great family suv🙂
Lovely TOYOTA Land Cruiser Prado!
Would love a prado as the 300 series is a bit big for me due to how much city driving I do, however engine outdated, tech outdated and it just puts me off buying one, heck even the 300 series the tech isn't the best and no where near the competition.
not a great idea to use all of that 3 1/2 ton towing capacity every day.
Thanks for your useful information my friend 👍
Well...a Prado is a good car. But why not a Disco 5! has more amenities and yet almost at par price wise...just my thought.
Good luck with a Disco in 2 years😂
Because of build quality. Open the tailgate of a brand new 2022 Discovery 5 and see where the tailgate has rubbed against the top of the bumper. This was a known issue going back several years. They certainly don't practice Kaizen.
Reliability. Had a Prado, then a D4. Never again. Back to Prado. Gets you there AND back in one piece.
I went for an extended test drive in the Prado VX and was appalled buy the incessant cabin rattles and squeaks and not to mention the inconsistent finish and fit. Vehicle only had 137kms on the odometer. Next day took a drive in the Hyundai Palisade Highlander and after 10 minutes behind the wheel, told the salesman, ''I'll take it''.
Different cars but congrats on the purchase. If setting off around Australia there's no other vehicle than a Toyota that I would consider. Reliability and access to dealers is paramount.
@@brownhairydog6472 here goes another blind fanboi chanting about Reliability
@@hotrod7603 let's hear your opinion then champ. Else you've added nothing.
The VX i test drive with 700kms on the clock had ZERO rattles and squeaks...
You’re not taking that off-road are you?
I've had quite a few of these as company cars over the last two decades.
They're not crap at all but not great either (especially for the price). Just a Hilux wagon really.
Have a whiff of old mans car about them.
Have you not heard of the Fortuner? It's literally a Hilux wagon, sits below the Prado in the Toyota range.
@@ianandersen2130 Fortuner is a far better option on this platform.
@@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt Not according to the buying public, seeing as it's a body on frame 7 seater with the same engine and is over $10k cheaper than the Prado and yet sales are about a fifth if that.
I think if Toyota left the front exactly the same as the Hilux like ford do with the Everest they might sell some more.
@@ianandersen2130 agree. I dont like the front of the Fortuner, its trying too hard.
@@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt U dilusional!
A update to the Toyota prado with a better and neat interior and exterior and a quite an additional fine features from the exterior access and a better and comfort seating arrangements and again a tough and sensible look and equipped of a proper off-road suv👍
I do not think the ford Everest can beat the suv 🚙
I like Prado.
The air vents in the centre are positioned just right, however the remainder of the interior is awful, if the previous generation infotainment response times are in any way a metric for this model then shame on you Toyota, that said it will sell well because the sheeple will line up for this like they are outside waiting for the next iphone release. Undeniably it's a fact marketing dollars work in Australia.
The problem is there just aren’t many other options. I’m wanting a full time 4wd that’s reliable, can go off road. It’s superior to the fortuner. The Everest isn’t up to par with the prado and the 300 is too expensive and unnecessary. I just wish there were more options in this segment. But sadly I have to be one of the sheeple because there’s just nothing else that competes with this. I’m waiting to see if there’s talk of the next model so hopefully they’ll get the interior features up to modern day specs. Saying that, that’s not Toyotas strong point as you can see with the 300. Hopefully will see a more powerful engine too.
Toyota could care less ha ha, people just buys the cars based on the so called reputation.. they always do the bare minimum, but they are one of the most successful companies in the world.
"sheeple".. you sound like you cant afford one. lol
@@user-vw7bx9ll8n looks like the advertising worked on you🤣🤣🤣
Nice
Only a bogan would drink out of a 1.5lt bottle. There is no need for such a large bottle holder
Having cut my teeth on Series 2 land Rovers and Ford F150's I am somewhat disappointed at how reviews these days spend more time on avionics (sorry, infotainment), USB points and nik-nak storage bins than they do on the way the 4 WD systems works.
I think you’ve got your pricing wrong I think a $97,000 almost 98,000
No, our pricing is the list price - state driveaway duties come after
@@chasingcars Anyone who buys direct without going through a broker is a potato.
@@eyeLikeCarrots lol potato
Beer is not alcoholic drink :D
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The gearbox lets this vehicle down bigh time. A huge dissapointment. Calibration is terrible. Constantly changing and hunting for gears.
I have a April 2021 VX and does not hunt at all. Even when towing my2.7 tonne van. The previous model was bad prior to August 2020.
@@peterstaggs1956
I have May 2021 and mine does it all the time. If you’re in a hilly environment it only makes it worse (that’s me unfortunately )
Is this bloke old enough to drive? He obviously wasn’t aware of when the 2.8 came in!
I think he is a keyboard driver.
I chose touareg over prado because i live in city and prado felt like some bald fat farmer would use...
Well put together vehicle, but should be rebadged "Bland Cruiser"..
Tank 500 is much better than Prado.
Before you put your money on a Prado, go test drive the Ssangyong Rexton. I used to drive Lexus NX which was a great car, but I'm much happier with my Ssangyong now. Besides offering all the 4x4 towing capabilities the Prado has, the Ssangyong in my opinion has a far smoother engine and quieter cabin for 30-40k less. Now that they have found a new buyer, the ownership risk is low. You'll find it hard to justify the price premium the Prado demands if you ever drive both back to back
That rexton is a poor choice for frequent offroading due to its low ground clearance, tiny tires and horrible approach/departure angles.
@@w1ldm4n82 Agreed. But I was talking to 99% of people who will never go off road yet are still considering one of these body on frame SUVs. If used as family wagon and for towing, it is a no brainer to get a Rexton and keep 30k in your pocket
@@jinsei1202 well, the new isuzu mu-x, while seeing an inflation due to it being an all-new model, is a much better alternative then. The rexton is attractive but it's hard to consider it given that ssangyong has also become bankrupt not more than a few years ago.
@@w1ldm4n82Have you ever driven both? Rexton has also gone through a comprehensive update just a year ago. Mux is great but being slightly newer doesn’t justify the 20k difference. I’ve driven both back to back and can testify Rexton was superior in every respect. Ssangyong has found a new owner so the ownership risk has been alleviated.
@@jinsei1202 umm in every respect? Like i said, it has poor angles to use for off-roading as well as low ground clearance and also it isn't as tough or robust looking as the other suvs in the segment. So quit smoking meth, fanboy.
Yes it does deserve its reputation, it is an overpriced mall crawler mostly used by mums taking the kids to school.
Using "sexy" for anything but its original sense is degrading...
10.000km service is terrible for a car that is made to drive long (outback) distances, I'm never going to buy a car which makes me loose 3days a year because of service.
Just 2 days instead?
so overpriced its not funny !!!
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Rubbish review. It's a 4wd, test as it should be tested not like a corolla
You see plenty of these rolling around as Toorak tractors - and especially on these impractical new 19-inch wheels? We did a good job.
@@chasingcars When an auto journalist reviews a sports car they include relevant information on the performance and handling of the vehicle, regardless of the fact that a soccer mum may chose to purchase one. Hence your excuse does not cut it. So, the response is no, you and most journos do not do "a good job" of reviewing 4wd vehicles.
Toyotas are week as piss now the ford Everest is a much better 4wd than prado and the ford ranger is a much better Ute over the hilux
Are you old enough to drive kid?
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Another boring overpriced Toyota....Pass
Sounds like you can’t afford one
@@Dave-ww5tl you’re right, I cannot afford one but if I could I wouldn’t be dropping 90 k on this outdated vehicle
@@Burbs1976
What do you drive, lady?
They buy a Prado because they can’t afford the 200/300 series
With the new Fortuner being as good as it is, I don’t really see spending the extra money to get a prado. The new Land Cruiser 300 is a totally different ball game.
There is always someone with simple thoughts !
HaHa - That is correct Steve!
Haha, I bought a Prado because the kids have left home and its only the wife and I, I don't need the size of a 300 series.
@@robstone4537 exactly