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Majorkill we know the order they are going back, but what about the order they went? Who was the last primarch going missing? Who was the first? That could be a interesting video
Hello Majorkill, Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.
If Vulkan came back, the jolly green giant would inexorably gigachad the Imperium to victory, so GW is probably going to keep him in their backpocket for some time.
Yeah, he didn't discuss the 'Nids heavily, while I think Vulkan's WMDs would be devastating against the 'Nids, even if only as weapons of last resort to deny them the Biomass of Imperial Worlds.
Vulkan can't die. He's technically a Mary Sue, I'd love him to be the last primarch loyalist brought back and just be "bruh, what the? What the fuck you guys been doing? I made a new imperium of happy people all living in hope waiting to.... Oh throne, brothers what have you done???"
@RobGreen-mj3ov I don't know, I think being a Mary Sue is less about a character being awesome than the way the story treats them. A Mary Sue is generally loved by all, great at everything, and always wins, even when they shouldn't. Sure Vulcan can't die and is a sweet dude, but he also got nuked (or 40K nuked) at Istvan, tortured to death dozens or hundreds of times, failed to make it through the Web way to Terra during the War for the Web way, and clearly after his atomization in the War of the Beast had been through so much trauma that he's spent, something on the order of 8,000 years taking a mental health break, which given that he was only born in the 30th millennium, makes that about 80% of his whole life.
@@RorikH yeah and he just carries on being a dark beacon of light in a shit fuck universe where you'd sell your kids to not get rear ended by a Daemon of Slanessh. He's a total Mary Sue, but damn, he's an epic primach. Yeah I'm a salamander player
I’m pretty sure Dorn is going to be the most receptive to the ecclesiarchy given his visions of the emperor, his gene sons’ predisposition towards the imperial cult, and him spending millennia in the warp killing demons. I really hope Dorn becomes somewhat of a loyalist lorgar as a counterbalance to his imperial truth brothers.
@aunderiskerensky2304 it's really sad that we have to sit here and watch the fucking dark angels be THE bike chapter. Give us a goddamn biker captain!
@@cameronlang6858 yea i have about 2500-3500 points of legends stuff im not sure what to do with now. old bike captains, chaplains, librarians, land speeders...
@@aunderiskerensky2304 i dont think its that the khan can't (hehe), its that he wouldn't- i dont think ruling the imperium would fit his idealogies.......unless he sees it as the best way to preserve the people and whatever else he holds dear
@@kelakogreenaddict1888he's a defender of humanity through and through, his defense of Terra shows this. He'd go all in protecting the Imperium, he just wouldnt take half the shit Guilliman does, and would have heads rolling left and right.
I just imagine Vulkan embracing his warp powers turning him into a giant burning Sun, providing light to those he wants to hug and equally burning those that do not want hugs
I think would actually turn into a giant dragon with lava blood like in the robutian heresy and corvus turned into a crow so it makes sense because his legions name is literally the fire salamanders and he had a fire salamander skin hide.
In Echoes of Eternety, his Warpform is a giant Black Dragon when Magnus contacts him through Telepathie in the Webway. Good Thing he´s a Perpetual because that would also make him a Giant Target.
Embraces warp powers has a long chat with daddy emps morphs into smaller localized Astronomic-on located on other side of the imperium craving the emperors guiding light, doing a huge solid for humanity and manifesting himself periodically and at interesting times to do his own Shenanigans influencing events across the Galaxy. Something like that haha, off top of my head.
9:07 gonna add some here - A bolter that critically hits an eldar child regardless of angle or direction - A Flamethrower that turns you into an eldar child and then kills you - A chainsword that only kills eldar children Yeah you see the joke...
@@brianmurphy6480he literally didn't have a choice. That Eldar child raised arms against him and he wasn't about to sacrifice his sons for the sake of a knife ear
@@brianmurphy6480 That's not the point, he at least have way more humanity as much as Sanguinius even when looking at people of other races They're definitely not that inquisitor toddler in 40K TTS when trying coordinate with Fyordperor to deal with dark eldar, that being said, Vulkan would make twisted mega-arsenals out of Tyranids and combine it with his potential diplomacy with T'au castes (as he's definitely would want to get as much powerful tech tree specialisations from being more friendly with them once he returns, that's how "necessity being mother of all inventions" goes) Although they probably will bring Vulkan once the actual End Times scenario gets closer and closer after most of other Primarchs, I could be wrong on that one
imagine caring what age the xeno is, all that matters is whether the xeno has any practical use to the imperium at this time, if the answer to that question is no, then bolter away.
I think Dorne would be one of the most destructive primarchs to return first. I can’t imagine him being as pragmatic and reasonable in regards to the Ecclesiarchy and the state of the Imperium in general. He would have felt the same urge to tear it all down like Guilliman did but he would probably act on it.
I feel like the issue with the Lion/Rus showing back up first is that I think it basically immediately starts a civil war because without Guilliman's reforms and taking some of the getting the High Lords head out of their asses/regaining control of the Ecclesiarchy stuff slow which isn't really his style I think everything starts going to shit pretty quick even if he definitely would have been fine for all the actually fighting stuff.
You pointed out why I wanted Russ or the Lion to return first and Guilliman second. They easily strike out but limited by the imperium’s internal strife before Guilliman returns to save his brother from Imperial bureaucracy.
idk about that, especially with the most recent books depicting the lion he has been quite level headed and in the case of his sons, merciful so if he went through a similiar character arch that he did in his most recent books it would seem unlikely
Yeah no....Rus is way smarter than he lets on/people give him credit for. In Alpharious's book he hints at knowing the existence kf Omegon. Theybare talking about their roles to their father. Alpharious says "I'm the one who keeps secrets." Rus replys "I'm surprised there aren't two of you then."
You're missing out on one of the most important aspects of Gulliman returning, The Primaris Marines. TT aside, the Primaris were much needed reinforcements to the Imperium. And it was Gulliman's plan. Who knows if Cawl would reveal the Primaris had it been any of the other Primarchs returned. And no, you can't just recon and say any of the Primarchs could have come up with that plan, cause it's Gulliman's mastery of grand strategy that made him plan the Primaris ahead.
didn't guilliman order the creation of them before? i thought mass proprogation of the primaris was after. if it was after, i feel some may be persuaded by cawl
@@007JackBourne eh Guilliman held the highest position after the heresy in imperial government. He was likely the only one to have the authority and connections to order their creation. The others were just fucking off to do other stuff for the most part after the heresy so it wouldn’t really make sense for them to order something like that when they didn’t even seem to be planning for increasing the longevity of the imperium. From what we know now most likely considered it a lost cause after the emperor went silent.
Come on, Guilliman comissioning the Primaris marines didn't exist in the lore before the Gathering Storm. If GW decided to return any other Primarch instead, they would have made the Primaris his project instead.
I actually think Jaghatai would be a great one to return sooner than later. His cool-head and ability to see reason over ambition, would help steer the current imperium towards a great direction. Also, he is a MASTER tactician over a lot of the other primarchs, making him an invaluable general during difficult battles.
Actually, I think that Sanguinius' return would also be a great morale boost to the Imperium and might even allow for more cooperation between them and the Tau and Eldar. And all of us know that if Jagatai comes back, every single Dark Eldar Wych would be in his harem.
The Necrons would never outright ally themselves with man. Dont forget, every single other race is beneath the Necrons from their perspective. If you think the Eldar view man as literal apes, imagine how the Necrons feel, you know, the ones who fought the literal gods/creators of every other race barrring the Nids (maybe?). Necrons are might entertain a brief alliance for a specific goal, but as a whole, they don't need anyone. The only reason they havent won the galaxy yet is bc 1, a lot of them are still asleep in Tomb Worlds, and 2, they are not unified and fight amongst themselves. A singlular unified Necron force would win everything easily low diff. Hard counter to Nids, hard counter to Chaos, unfathomably advanced for humans, bitter, possibly superior, rivals to the Eldar; who even are the Tau to them, and lets just put Orks into their own category. Theyre just here for a good time not a long time.@@johannesmakila2459
Ahh fairplay. A good-few dozen of us have been asking this- mostly out of curiousity, but also as a bit of fun- and it pleases me to see you deliver. Thanks. Feel free to release some cool Christmas merch (ideally a Jumper) as I'd like to buy something Festive.
Attempt number 4: What if the Primarchs where found in the order of their creation. So the Lion was first and Horus was nearly last. I think that could change quite a bit, don't you think?
I'm fairly certain that if Sanguinius was the one to come back, Szarekh would've been like "Hey, Sangy, buddy, help me with this Imotekh issue, and the full might of the Necron Empire will help the Imperium with both the Nids and the Eye of Terror."
Random fun fact about sanguinius, he both knows what necrodermis is, and that it was the stuff on ferrus's hands. It may not have been friendly, but he definitely knew of the necrons
True, he legit did that with Vulkan when he was sneaking into the palace. He ran into him, prepared to fight, but then Vulkan hit him with that "Brother" and he immediately felt the word touch his soul. He definetly would
With Guilliman running logistics and supply management and the Lion handling strategy and military deployments the Imperium could finally get back on the right track. But that only works if both Primarchs are 100% on the same page. Great video mate
I like to assume that when jag comes back, after spending so much time in the webway he will have embraced his inner psycher. Prob that is why meme god has him, to make sure he learns to do it right and doesn’t get corrupted by tzeentch, and then to release him at the right moment.
It would be very interesting to see an interaction between a returned Ferrus and daemon Fulgrim in the case that Ferrus was the first Primarch to return
You can't imagine Corvus reorganizing the emporium, I think personally it would make warhammer a lot more interesting from a different perspective , imagine one of the most anti social primarch returning and he has to do everything he obviously doesn't want to which is being a politician and delicate with the high council etc while the inquistion question if he's even still human.
Jaghatai is a mega underrated primarch. You have to give credit where credit is due. The dude was a beast in almost every way. He just never boasted about nor did his legions of space marines he ate humble pie and people forget that he conquered his entire planet without trying with a bunch of mongol like dudes against highly advanced race of humans on the same planet dude was an absolute fucking beast.
Lion is who I'd ask if another Primarch would return. Basically Guilliman but less Roman and more Knightly Chivalry. But Leman, Rogal, and Sanguinius would be great choices as well.
I very much want leman to come back next. I would love to see if they make him hella scruffed like having eye patch. Huge beard. His arm mutated like a wulfen. Is taller thanks to warp fuckery. Wearing skin of tzeetch greater demon or something lmao just so many possibilities
@@Wolfbroa If he comes back, he'd either has the means to revive Big E, like his original mission after the heresy, or he failed and is returning to help protect the Imperium from Chaos, Nids, etc.
Talking about some of these other primarchs doing the same things as Guilliman ignores, I feel, that none of them could have accessed Cawl's primaris vaults and that most of them would have been unwilling to work with the Inquisition/ministorum the way Guilliman has.
He definitely was,but now with Lion back,I think they also need to bring Leman Russ back.....there's a on of fcked up shit on its way towards Imperium,so they gonna need every primarch they can get lol
you only forgot that Russ wrote many books on imperial tactics and this is why there is a tank named after him!. He wrote a whole codex on how to kill a space marine legion and gave it to Horus before the Heresy(most probably after learning firsthand how to dispatch a legion we no longer speak about). he also wrote: - A Book of Admonitions for the Legiones Astartes -Meditations on Imperial Command -Meditations -De Natura Belli In the lore these are mandatory readings for most officer cadre and lordship position in the Imperium
I would like to imagine the Great Khan popping out of the webway and see the crap the imperium is in would assemble a massive horde of white scars with their jetbikes just like the mongols did.
I think Dorn wouldn't be as flexible as Guilliman possibly causing inner turmoil and may have sacrificed distant/rebellious regions to consolidate and fortify. Sanguinius may have rallied the entire species as the god emperors littoral angel resurrected. It would be interesting to see how he would handle that outcome, he wouldn't like it I'm sure.
How are techmarines viewed by their chapters and the mechanicus? Are they trusted or seen as potentially disloyal to one organization due to conflicting beliefs? Could a space marine choose to stay with the mechanicus rather then return to their own chapter?
I don't think any of them will work with Belisarius cawl like Guilliman. And without cawl, nothing would be possible. Cawl is one of the most important character in the Imperium.
Lion was willing to let some random Psyker look into his head to confirm his identity. He also was the first Primarch to rescind the Edict of Nikaea the moment he understood how fucked everything was, even going so far as to execute one of his sons for trying to keep to it. If the galaxy and humanity is in a shit place, he will make compromises, doesn't help that he's stated to be the closest to the Big E in terms of personality. This isn't factoring in his older self, where he's far more forgiving and compromising.
Ferrus and Vulcan might work well with the Mechanicum, as they're brilliant engineers, and being Primarchs, anything they invented would be treated more as a tech miracle than tech heresy. I think they could give it the kick in the pants it needs.
@@starhammer5247 you know Cawl did lots of heretical stuffs, he created primaris and created marines using traitors gene seed. Who knows one of most loyal primarch of his dad, Lion will think about that! 😅
@@RorikH I am not sure about Vulkan but Ferrus was hot headed primarch. Cawl did lots of heretical stuffs and created primaris, basically worked on emperor's work! 👀
I disagree, i think they would likely work more with cawl, especially seeing the rest of the mechanicus hsving stagnated hard and cawl being only one to really be useful i can see many hard go for support which may cause problems with mechanicus who hate him and maybe another civil war with the mechanicus while causing more deaths means even more experiments and weaponry and of course the primaris. While they may agree with guilliman on some things other things like leman wanting more weapons, vulkan wanting to make his items, khan with vehicles etc i can see them being more with cawl as some mah not realize the logistical shit hole of what it means having someone being useful
The mad lad did it! I thought that we wouldn’t get this video because of the fact it’s a very hard to tackle topic. Not an impossible one to cover, just something that would have taken longer than the usual 12 - -16 minute video formatting ^w^
Hello Majorkill, Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.
You mean, "what if Magnus picked up the goddamn phone?"... Wait, new theory, Magnus was watching a movie when Leman came, and had his vox on silent because talking in the theater is rude.
It is incredible how unyealding, that one guy was with this video idea, but he succeded in the end, although there are still the pre-heresy primarchs's performances to be explained by the Australian. Great video, well within expected boundaries. A little disapppointment with Jaghatai Khan's performancr against Nids, but there is only so much a "cavalry" can do against a endless wall of flesh and blades.
Superb video as always @majorkill. Could you make a video dedicated to the Navigators, the major houses, their politics, relation to the overall Imperium and factions, etc
Can you do a video about what if Angron didn't get his butchers nails? I'm really curious about how it would have changed events like the horus heresy and if he still would have gotten corrupted or stayed loyal
Angron had the effect of absorbing other people's pain, iirc. He even was able to help his fellow gladiators get some sleep by taking in the negative emotions and nightmares, I think
Then possibly Sanguinius would have been corrupted by Khorne as the Angel was his first choice, with Angron being a traitor primarch ordered from Wish back then.
One of the most interesting aspects would be if the Lion, or one of the other primarchs, would visit Macragge and then go to Glueman's stasis chamber and see his almost dead brother. I could imagine a conversation like that between Horus and Ferruse's skull. It would be even better if the primarch didn't know that Ruby Gillmam was almost dead and was told by Calgar that he was alive and that he could see him. Calgar would assume that the Primach knew he was almost dead. The Primach would be too impatient to see his brother and would demand that he be brought directly to him. When he gets there I would love to see his reaction. Of course it only works with those who don't know that he had the fight with Fulgrim, i.e. the Lion, Sanguinius, Ferrus... .
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Thanks mate❤
Majorkill we know the order they are going back, but what about the order they went? Who was the last primarch going missing? Who was the first? That could be a interesting video
Hello Majorkill,
Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.
You mad lad, you ACTUALLY MADE IT!
Shoutout to that one guy who asked for this nonstop on every video for the last year
Thanks mate
Same. The guy is a man of focus, commitment, and sheer friggin will.
It has been so long........
@trimeerious4349 you did it brother
His will matched the emperor’s lol
The saga is over, he did it - the crazy bastard he actually did it! Well done to that dude who persevered this whole time hahaha
it feels like he's been trying for more than a year. its great to finally see it come to an end so our brother can rest easy
@@ballsinurmouth-2 just over a year, I started in October - November 2022
Yeah i can finally rest now…
Yet another victory! For the Emperor!
@@trimeerious4349 You can rest now soldier.
I still hold it to be cannon that Rogal Dorn never left. He’s just walking around the Imperial Palace disguised as a centurion.
And Corvax is hiding in the shadows as him in Dorn are playing hide and seek and will only reveal themselves when the game ends
@@dreadcthulhu1439While Volken is sitting in a really dark corner
And Russ is just getting drunk in the warp
While magnus is travelling realspace with the captain general
He got lost.
Oh my god, OH MY GOD SALVATIONNNNNNN I want to thank my parents and all those who stood by me this past year. Thank you all, I may finally rest
You did it you mad lad 🥳🥳🥳👏👏
YESSSSS WE DID IT
@@jonathan6401 THANK YOU FRIEND my biggest supporter, we have finally completed our mission
It has been an honour captain, you can rest now 🫡
Take your rest comrade, you earned it
By the Emperor, he actually did it
Nope.. he asked for reactions to guillimans position. OCD shall continue until moral improves!
@@leighz1962 *morale
@@leighz1962 no no this is exactly what I asked for !!
@@leighz1962 there's already a video about reactions to Guilliman
If Vulkan came back, the jolly green giant would inexorably gigachad the Imperium to victory, so GW is probably going to keep him in their backpocket for some time.
Yeah, he didn't discuss the 'Nids heavily, while I think Vulkan's WMDs would be devastating against the 'Nids, even if only as weapons of last resort to deny them the Biomass of Imperial Worlds.
Vulkan will probably be brought back and thrown into a eternal war vs teh nids.
Vulkan can't die. He's technically a Mary Sue, I'd love him to be the last primarch loyalist brought back and just be "bruh, what the? What the fuck you guys been doing? I made a new imperium of happy people all living in hope waiting to.... Oh throne, brothers what have you done???"
@RobGreen-mj3ov I don't know, I think being a Mary Sue is less about a character being awesome than the way the story treats them. A Mary Sue is generally loved by all, great at everything, and always wins, even when they shouldn't. Sure Vulcan can't die and is a sweet dude, but he also got nuked (or 40K nuked) at Istvan, tortured to death dozens or hundreds of times, failed to make it through the Web way to Terra during the War for the Web way, and clearly after his atomization in the War of the Beast had been through so much trauma that he's spent, something on the order of 8,000 years taking a mental health break, which given that he was only born in the 30th millennium, makes that about 80% of his whole life.
@@RorikH yeah and he just carries on being a dark beacon of light in a shit fuck universe where you'd sell your kids to not get rear ended by a Daemon of Slanessh. He's a total Mary Sue, but damn, he's an epic primach. Yeah I'm a salamander player
One problem with dorn; it’s highly likely he wouldn’t accept the ecclessiarchy’s existence even as a necessary evil.
This time his stubborness would be a problem
@@indrickboreale7381Perhaps something that’s far past due, doing.
He would certainly have given Helbrecht a right good spanking until he admitted that the Emperor isn’t a God
I would see this as an abdolute win
I’m pretty sure Dorn is going to be the most receptive to the ecclesiarchy given his visions of the emperor, his gene sons’ predisposition towards the imperial cult, and him spending millennia in the warp killing demons. I really hope Dorn becomes somewhat of a loyalist lorgar as a counterbalance to his imperial truth brothers.
Doran is on record as saying that "as a warlord I rank only Guilliman greater" in terms of the Khan
Right, im getting mad tired of the scars getting shit on. I think GW made Khan too good and now regret it so they just stopped writing it.
@aunderiskerensky2304 it's really sad that we have to sit here and watch the fucking dark angels be THE bike chapter. Give us a goddamn biker captain!
@@cameronlang6858 yea i have about 2500-3500 points of legends stuff im not sure what to do with now. old bike captains, chaplains, librarians, land speeders...
@@aunderiskerensky2304 i dont think its that the khan can't (hehe), its that he wouldn't- i dont think ruling the imperium would fit his idealogies.......unless he sees it as the best way to preserve the people and whatever else he holds dear
@@kelakogreenaddict1888he's a defender of humanity through and through, his defense of Terra shows this. He'd go all in protecting the Imperium, he just wouldnt take half the shit Guilliman does, and would have heads rolling left and right.
I just imagine Vulkan embracing his warp powers turning him into a giant burning Sun, providing light to those he wants to hug and equally burning those that do not want hugs
I think would actually turn into a giant dragon with lava blood like in the robutian heresy and corvus turned into a crow so it makes sense because his legions name is literally the fire salamanders and he had a fire salamander skin hide.
In Echoes of Eternety, his Warpform is a giant Black Dragon when Magnus contacts him through Telepathie in the Webway.
Good Thing he´s a Perpetual because that would also make him a Giant Target.
Embraces warp powers has a long chat with daddy emps morphs into smaller localized Astronomic-on located on other side of the imperium craving the emperors guiding light, doing a huge solid for humanity and manifesting himself periodically and at interesting times to do his own Shenanigans influencing events across the Galaxy. Something like that haha, off top of my head.
9:07 gonna add some here
- A bolter that critically hits an eldar child regardless of angle or direction
- A Flamethrower that turns you into an eldar child and then kills you
- A chainsword that only kills eldar children
Yeah you see the joke...
While funny, that's just sadistic. Canonically, Vulkan felt like absolute shit after killing that child.
@@starhammer5247Yet, he still did it, so he definitely had it in him. 🤷♂️
@@brianmurphy6480he literally didn't have a choice. That Eldar child raised arms against him and he wasn't about to sacrifice his sons for the sake of a knife ear
@@brianmurphy6480 That's not the point, he at least have way more humanity as much as Sanguinius even when looking at people of other races
They're definitely not that inquisitor toddler in 40K TTS when trying coordinate with Fyordperor to deal with dark eldar, that being said, Vulkan would make twisted mega-arsenals out of Tyranids and combine it with his potential diplomacy with T'au castes (as he's definitely would want to get as much powerful tech tree specialisations from being more friendly with them once he returns, that's how "necessity being mother of all inventions" goes)
Although they probably will bring Vulkan once the actual End Times scenario gets closer and closer after most of other Primarchs, I could be wrong on that one
imagine caring what age the xeno is, all that matters is whether the xeno has any practical use to the imperium at this time, if the answer to that question is no, then bolter away.
Vulkan coming back first and making Cawl head of the mechinacus would be terrifying. The things they would make together.
That‘d be next level war crime shit that even Chaos would consider extreme.
When Chaos feels the enemy has overstepped the rules of war.😂😂
Listen we may be literal demons but we’re not monsters.
Its only extreme if youre on the receiving end of it@@P1CRR
He gonna create mini eye of vulkan and installed it on all titan
I think Dorn probably would have been the second best choice when it came for the first return primarch. I hope so much he will return.
He will be next
My God he actually did it!
I think Dorne would be one of the most destructive primarchs to return first. I can’t imagine him being as pragmatic and reasonable in regards to the Ecclesiarchy and the state of the Imperium in general. He would have felt the same urge to tear it all down like Guilliman did but he would probably act on it.
I feel like the issue with the Lion/Rus showing back up first is that I think it basically immediately starts a civil war because without Guilliman's reforms and taking some of the getting the High Lords head out of their asses/regaining control of the Ecclesiarchy stuff slow which isn't really his style I think everything starts going to shit pretty quick even if he definitely would have been fine for all the actually fighting stuff.
You pointed out why I wanted Russ or the Lion to return first and Guilliman second. They easily strike out but limited by the imperium’s internal strife before Guilliman returns to save his brother from Imperial bureaucracy.
idk about that, especially with the most recent books depicting the lion he has been quite level headed and in the case of his sons, merciful so if he went through a similiar character arch that he did in his most recent books it would seem unlikely
Yeah no....Rus is way smarter than he lets on/people give him credit for. In Alpharious's book he hints at knowing the existence kf Omegon. Theybare talking about their roles to their father. Alpharious says "I'm the one who keeps secrets."
Rus replys "I'm surprised there aren't two of you then."
Guilliman's super power is common sense. Even more than Khan.
@@Shifty51991uniting the tribal peoples of fenris also shows that he has some grasp of statesmanship.
I like to think that when Corax isn’t harassing lorgar, taking naps, and riding the vibes of the warp, he and Russ are just hanging out
Amen brother, what a beautiful thought.
„So, Mortarion is getting a bit too close to victory. Should we help?“
„Nah, blueberry blues got this.“
Corax, everyhting Konrad wishes he was
There is no way the crusade is over! On to the next battle.
You're missing out on one of the most important aspects of Gulliman returning, The Primaris Marines. TT aside, the Primaris were much needed reinforcements to the Imperium. And it was Gulliman's plan. Who knows if Cawl would reveal the Primaris had it been any of the other Primarchs returned. And no, you can't just recon and say any of the Primarchs could have come up with that plan, cause it's Gulliman's mastery of grand strategy that made him plan the Primaris ahead.
didn't guilliman order the creation of them before? i thought mass proprogation of the primaris was after. if it was after, i feel some may be persuaded by cawl
G man only could authorize them being activated
You totally could retcon it to being any of them.
@@007JackBourne eh Guilliman held the highest position after the heresy in imperial government. He was likely the only one to have the authority and connections to order their creation. The others were just fucking off to do other stuff for the most part after the heresy so it wouldn’t really make sense for them to order something like that when they didn’t even seem to be planning for increasing the longevity of the imperium. From what we know now most likely considered it a lost cause after the emperor went silent.
Come on, Guilliman comissioning the Primaris marines didn't exist in the lore before the Gathering Storm. If GW decided to return any other Primarch instead, they would have made the Primaris his project instead.
Dorn trying not to feed Khorne while dealing with the ecclesiarchy and his temper would be hillarious.
thats why i want him to return as soon as possible, this shit would be so fucking entertaining
I actually think Jaghatai would be a great one to return sooner than later. His cool-head and ability to see reason over ambition, would help steer the current imperium towards a great direction. Also, he is a MASTER tactician over a lot of the other primarchs, making him an invaluable general during difficult battles.
Also, I want Jaghatai to come back just to have an epic swordfight with Fulgrim. That battle is long overdue. 😎
Do a video on the chief librarian from each legion.
hasn't he already made that video? are you talking about 40k, considering he did it for 30k
@@kelakogreenaddict1888 Nah I Think He Did It For The First Captains Of Each Legion. Although With The Thousand Sons It Did Overlap.
Actually, I think that Sanguinius' return would also be a great morale boost to the Imperium and might even allow for more cooperation between them and the Tau and Eldar.
And all of us know that if Jagatai comes back, every single Dark Eldar Wych would be in his harem.
Not to mention Silent King respects Sanguinius so Necrons under him might had given they help.
The Necrons would never outright ally themselves with man. Dont forget, every single other race is beneath the Necrons from their perspective. If you think the Eldar view man as literal apes, imagine how the Necrons feel, you know, the ones who fought the literal gods/creators of every other race barrring the Nids (maybe?). Necrons are might entertain a brief alliance for a specific goal, but as a whole, they don't need anyone. The only reason they havent won the galaxy yet is bc 1, a lot of them are still asleep in Tomb Worlds, and 2, they are not unified and fight amongst themselves. A singlular unified Necron force would win everything easily low diff. Hard counter to Nids, hard counter to Chaos, unfathomably advanced for humans, bitter, possibly superior, rivals to the Eldar; who even are the Tau to them, and lets just put Orks into their own category. Theyre just here for a good time not a long time.@@johannesmakila2459
I think Jaghatai would travel with all his government institutions with him, Ghenghis Khan-style. The High Lords wouldn't be able to keep up. 😂
Ahh fairplay. A good-few dozen of us have been asking this- mostly out of curiousity, but also as a bit of fun- and it pleases me to see you deliver.
Thanks. Feel free to release some cool Christmas merch (ideally a Jumper) as I'd like to buy something Festive.
Attempt number 4:
What if the Primarchs where found in the order of their creation. So the Lion was first and Horus was nearly last. I think that could change quite a bit, don't you think?
What if someone had given Konrad a hug or two.
Another crusade begins.
That vid would just end up being the 'What if X was made warmaster' vid again
Rebuttal 1: Nobody cares
@@stephenbarrett8861 1 hug = sane. 2 hugs = kinder than Vulkan
I'm fairly certain that if Sanguinius was the one to come back, Szarekh would've been like "Hey, Sangy, buddy, help me with this Imotekh issue, and the full might of the Necron Empire will help the Imperium with both the Nids and the Eye of Terror."
Random fun fact about sanguinius, he both knows what necrodermis is, and that it was the stuff on ferrus's hands. It may not have been friendly, but he definitely knew of the necrons
Sanguinius has met the silent king before
Imma be honest, if Magnus came face to face with Sanguinius I could see him actually stopping for a bit to have a chat with the angel boy.
True, he legit did that with Vulkan when he was sneaking into the palace. He ran into him, prepared to fight, but then Vulkan hit him with that "Brother" and he immediately felt the word touch his soul. He definetly would
I believe if Sanguinius and Magnus had a chat, Magnus's broken soul would actually begin to heal
Congratulations to the guy. We all wanted it, you kept at it, now we have it 💯
Russ and Dorn coming back would be perfect
Its always nice to see Ferrus given the respect he deserves
>Ferrus turns everything into a war factory to fight chaos
>Living conditions go so shit everyone converts to chaos
Hey look! We found the iron hands fan!
(This is far rarer than being a girl)
@@soffren there are less WARHAMMER 40K players than women, we are already rare, but now we’re ultra rare.
Luckily, we got the one Primarch with organization skills to lead a massive empire.
Now my watch has ended.
I can't believe this isn't the top/ pinned comment. You have served honorably
This must be some warp trickery. Majorkill finally did it!
The man finally did it
Love how the majority of them returning immediately get rid of the high lords
Ferrus manus returning would be awesome, reminds my of when the U.S joined WW2 and all of the car manufacturers were to start making tanks
With Guilliman running logistics and supply management and the Lion handling strategy and military deployments the Imperium could finally get back on the right track. But that only works if both Primarchs are 100% on the same page. Great video mate
We wouldn't be gifted the same level of sass and hilarious reactions if it was anyone but our most human of primarchs
I like to assume that when jag comes back, after spending so much time in the webway he will have embraced his inner psycher. Prob that is why meme god has him, to make sure he learns to do it right and doesn’t get corrupted by tzeentch, and then to release him at the right moment.
At last hes finally given in
My task is over… A crusade that started 2 years ago.. i can finally rest
It would be very interesting to see an interaction between a returned Ferrus and daemon Fulgrim in the case that Ferrus was the first Primarch to return
Congrats on my man. It took months but he did. This makes two of us mate.
You can't imagine Corvus reorganizing the emporium, I think personally it would make warhammer a lot more interesting from a different perspective , imagine one of the most anti social primarch returning and he has to do everything he obviously doesn't want to which is being a politician and delicate with the high council etc while the inquistion question if he's even still human.
I mean the way corvus fights is organizing militia out of civvies
Jaghatai is a mega underrated primarch. You have to give credit where credit is due. The dude was a beast in almost every way. He just never boasted about nor did his legions of space marines he ate humble pie and people forget that he conquered his entire planet without trying with a bunch of mongol like dudes against highly advanced race of humans on the same planet dude was an absolute fucking beast.
Lion is who I'd ask if another Primarch would return. Basically Guilliman but less Roman and more Knightly Chivalry. But Leman, Rogal, and Sanguinius would be great choices as well.
I very much want leman to come back next. I would love to see if they make him hella scruffed like having eye patch. Huge beard. His arm mutated like a wulfen. Is taller thanks to warp fuckery. Wearing skin of tzeetch greater demon or something lmao just so many possibilities
@@Wolfbroa If he comes back, he'd either has the means to revive Big E, like his original mission after the heresy, or he failed and is returning to help protect the Imperium from Chaos, Nids, etc.
“slightly less logistics and a fair bit more ass kicking” 🤣💯
Doing a video about how each primarch would react when put in Guilliman’s shoes would be great
Talking about some of these other primarchs doing the same things as Guilliman ignores, I feel, that none of them could have accessed Cawl's primaris vaults and that most of them would have been unwilling to work with the Inquisition/ministorum the way Guilliman has.
I think Guilly was the most useful primarch for the Imperium.
He definitely was,but now with Lion back,I think they also need to bring Leman Russ back.....there's a on of fcked up shit on its way towards Imperium,so they gonna need every primarch they can get lol
Robot Gorillaman sure is a life saver
Honestly I do believe vulcan could make weapons like the ones the necrons have so the nids wouldn't be a problem
You underestimate the power of Jagatai.
Kiting is a pathways to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
6:18 I thought he was the well rounded primarch
you only forgot that Russ wrote many books on imperial tactics and this is why there is a tank named after him!. He wrote a whole codex on how to kill a space marine legion and gave it to Horus before the Heresy(most probably after learning firsthand how to dispatch a legion we no longer speak about). he also wrote:
- A Book of Admonitions for the Legiones Astartes
-Meditations on Imperial Command
-Meditations
-De Natura Belli
In the lore these are mandatory readings for most officer cadre and lordship position in the Imperium
Looks like the guy finally got his vid
I would like to imagine the Great Khan popping out of the webway and see the crap the imperium is in would assemble a massive horde of white scars with their jetbikes just like the mongols did.
Not going to lie, the Crusade of Iron sounds *so* badass.
Corvus art at the end is badass
A video of the top ten community wholesome moments would be great
Haha yeah nice he finally got his wish :D. The madman finally fulfilled his destiny xD.
I think Dorn wouldn't be as flexible as Guilliman possibly causing inner turmoil and may have sacrificed distant/rebellious regions to consolidate and fortify.
Sanguinius may have rallied the entire species as the god emperors littoral angel resurrected. It would be interesting to see how he would handle that outcome, he wouldn't like it I'm sure.
The picture of Ferrus Manus at 7:54 makes him look cross eyed, and now i cant un-see it!
You forgot alpharius in your list, how would he have done?
What this is not accounting for is if Cawl would give a non-Guilliman primarch the primaris marines
How are techmarines viewed by their chapters and the mechanicus? Are they trusted or seen as potentially disloyal to one organization due to conflicting beliefs? Could a space marine choose to stay with the mechanicus rather then return to their own chapter?
one thing important is only Guilliman can unlease Primaris,without Primaris reinforce thing can get a lot worse
You forgot one loyalist primarch: Clonegrim
Woooohoooo, thanks you stranger that asked for this everyday.
I don't think any of them will work with Belisarius cawl like Guilliman. And without cawl, nothing would be possible. Cawl is one of the most important character in the Imperium.
Lion was willing to let some random Psyker look into his head to confirm his identity. He also was the first Primarch to rescind the Edict of Nikaea the moment he understood how fucked everything was, even going so far as to execute one of his sons for trying to keep to it. If the galaxy and humanity is in a shit place, he will make compromises, doesn't help that he's stated to be the closest to the Big E in terms of personality. This isn't factoring in his older self, where he's far more forgiving and compromising.
Ferrus and Vulcan might work well with the Mechanicum, as they're brilliant engineers, and being Primarchs, anything they invented would be treated more as a tech miracle than tech heresy. I think they could give it the kick in the pants it needs.
@@starhammer5247 you know Cawl did lots of heretical stuffs, he created primaris and created marines using traitors gene seed. Who knows one of most loyal primarch of his dad, Lion will think about that! 😅
@@RorikH I am not sure about Vulkan but Ferrus was hot headed primarch. Cawl did lots of heretical stuffs and created primaris, basically worked on emperor's work! 👀
I disagree, i think they would likely work more with cawl, especially seeing the rest of the mechanicus hsving stagnated hard and cawl being only one to really be useful i can see many hard go for support which may cause problems with mechanicus who hate him and maybe another civil war with the mechanicus while causing more deaths means even more experiments and weaponry and of course the primaris. While they may agree with guilliman on some things other things like leman wanting more weapons, vulkan wanting to make his items, khan with vehicles etc i can see them being more with cawl as some mah not realize the logistical shit hole of what it means having someone being useful
The mad lad did it! I thought that we wouldn’t get this video because of the fact it’s a very hard to tackle topic.
Not an impossible one to cover, just something that would have taken longer than the usual 12 - -16 minute video formatting ^w^
Hello Majorkill,
Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.
What if the Emperor was able to seal off the breach in the Web Way project but the rest of the Horus Heresy played out the same?
You mean, "what if Magnus picked up the goddamn phone?"... Wait, new theory, Magnus was watching a movie when Leman came, and had his vox on silent because talking in the theater is rude.
It is incredible how unyealding, that one guy was with this video idea, but he succeded in the end, although there are still the pre-heresy primarchs's performances to be explained by the Australian.
Great video, well within expected boundaries. A little disapppointment with Jaghatai Khan's performancr against Nids, but there is only so much a "cavalry" can do against a endless wall of flesh and blades.
Ferrus and Cawl being around at the same time would lead to so much shenanigans.
Corvus would spend all of his time reciting emo poetry to the Emperor.
OH MY FUCKING GOD he finally did this god damm video.
Like the emperor said: ABOUT FUNCIONA TIME.
he did it, the madlad, nay the legend finally pulled it off
We have it! Congrats to that legendary dude for patiently requesting this!
Amazing video mate, now do this video again except with the Dornian heresy
The crusade has ended my brothers...
I'm very glad you didnt forget Ferrus. Eternal prayers for Iron Hands relevancy.
Superb video as always @majorkill.
Could you make a video dedicated to the Navigators, the major houses, their politics, relation to the overall Imperium and factions, etc
A video on the relationships between the 1st founding chapters and there most successors would be cool
Every primarch reaction to demons and chaos would be a cool video
The Angel returns "The Only Thing They Fear is You" starts playing.
What about a video for each chief librarian of every legion 🤔
there is no better choice for a primarch return then R.G. he is made to be an Emperor great at evrything amazing at strategy and politics
Respect to the guy that kept his dream alive by asking everyday lol.
HE DID IT. THE MADMAN DID IT
You guy who have being asking for this video for like a year, well done, enjoy your reward 👏🏻👏🏻
Can you do a video about what if Angron didn't get his butchers nails? I'm really curious about how it would have changed events like the horus heresy and if he still would have gotten corrupted or stayed loyal
Angron had the effect of absorbing other people's pain, iirc. He even was able to help his fellow gladiators get some sleep by taking in the negative emotions and nightmares, I think
@@Overlord99762not just that but he could also heal them the big man was the healer primarch for body and spirit but then the eldar attacked
@@hadescerbex9984 pain...
If angron was loyalist i would totally be down to see leman with the spear and angron tag teaming horus
Then possibly Sanguinius would have been corrupted by Khorne as the Angel was his first choice, with Angron being a traitor primarch ordered from Wish back then.
I hereby declare the guy who kept requesting this an Iron Warrior for his sheer stubbornness resulting in success
Gulliman returning first was the best thing - The Sisters of Silence' Knickers have never been so soaked!
man, if Vulcan came back, you could feel that stomp across the galaxy, vacuum be damned
One of the most interesting aspects would be if the Lion, or one of the other primarchs, would visit Macragge and then go to Glueman's stasis chamber and see his almost dead brother. I could imagine a conversation like that between Horus and Ferruse's skull.
It would be even better if the primarch didn't know that Ruby Gillmam was almost dead and was told by Calgar that he was alive and that he could see him.
Calgar would assume that the Primach knew he was almost dead. The Primach would be too impatient to see his brother and would demand that he be brought directly to him. When he gets there I would love to see his reaction.
Of course it only works with those who don't know that he had the fight with Fulgrim, i.e. the Lion, Sanguinius, Ferrus... .
This has been one of my favorites in a good while. Not that the others weren’t solid, but this one slapped.
“Summer is here!”
Quotes the sponsor script of this November video. 😂