Christian Answers The Euthyphro Dilemma - Radio Debate Greg Bahnsen vs George Smith

The Euthyphro Dilemma attempts to artificially separate goodness from God, which leads to a false dilemma. By framing the question as "Is something good because God commands it, or does God command it because it is good?", the dilemma implies that goodness can be understood independently of God, as if it were a standard external to Him.
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[@thelobsterking1055]

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[@Certaintyexists888]

George Smith’s first principles are arbitrary. Bahnsen displays this at the end.

[@badatpseudoscience]

The "gods character" argument does nothing to resolve the dilemma. Your still left with the question of does does is morality a result of gods character or is cods character moral because it conforms to an outside morality. The argument is no more then a straw man.

[@johan_liebert2385]

Wrong. He already said Morality does come from God’s character/nature and not his commandments and biding. That was the whole point. Now you have yet to explain why it’s incorrect

[@badatpseudoscience]

@@johan_liebert2385 Because if gods nature is good then there must be a standard for good independent of God or what ever god's arbitrary nature is is good. I think you should look into the dilemma and think about it more.

[@johan_liebert2385]

@@badatpseudoscience dude if God is goodness itself by nature than goodness is grounded in something substantial and unchanging. It’s not the same as dictates that are arbitrary and can change

[@badatpseudoscience]

@@johan_liebert2385 You don't understand the Euthyphro Dilemma.

[@johan_liebert2385]

@@badatpseudoscience nice response 😎. The reason I say this is that at some point, fundamental things are self referential but it doesn’t follow that they are arbitrary like God’s morality. For example you have to appeal to logic to prove logic. Just because it’s self referential, it doesn’t follow that the awe of logic are arbitrary.