Gaming With The 8-Core Ryzen 7 4750G APU...
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- … And No Graphics Card!
The Ryzen 7 Pro 4750G is an 8 core, 16 threaded CPU that features on-board Radeon Graphics. Unfortunately it is pretty hard to find outside of OEM channels, so at the moment it's difficult to recommend if you don't want a prebuilt gaming PC.
0:00 Introduction and Specs
0:40 Cinebench R20 + Fallout 4
1:35 Red Dead Redemption 2
2:15 Cyberpunk 2077
2:49 The Witcher 3
3:17 Dirt 5
3:54 GTA V
4:34 Crysis Remastered - Наука та технологія
APU perfomance is so interesting, I love it when people cover it on UA-cam.
It's not interesting.
@@prezidenttrump5171 you are not interesting
I agree, but it very much depends on what kind of tuning the reviewer used to achive maximum frame rates.
@@prezidenttrump5171 another republican being destroyed
I hope it become a really great option for low prices gaming pcs and handhelds gaming in the future.
nothing like settling down the day listening to that iconic line: "hello everyone, and welcome to another video"
Legit making the world a better place every time
I think that the voice is iconic in my opinion, everyone is always so upbeat while here RandomGaming is very calm and laid back but not too laid back like he is under anything, but just more like a bro or up and coming radio host
Yeah that voice is so soothing
Hello everyone, and welcome to another comment.
Very british pronunciation... At least for my Russian ear.
That CPU is like an all-in-one gaming machine
Do you know where to buy this prebuilt?
@@pacwoman7126 you currently cannot buy it,
Unless you want to pay thousands of dollars,
And no I don't know where you can buy them.........
Yeah, but without ram, storage, AC to DC adapter, and of course
display output
@@thechoku9765 i agree lol it is just a normal apu
I have a Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U in my Thinkpad P14s, which is the laptop CPU equivalent of the 4750G, and it performs fantastic for a lot of things! The integrated graphics won't turn any heads, but it can play quite a bit of games on its own. Processor-wise, it matches a Ryzen 7 2700, so I'm really pleased with it.
He always has something nice, this channel is brilliant lol
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@dude guy Hello
@@GURKENGOTT hello
EVERYONE AND WELCOME
If only he hadn't ripped off jackfrags' lines
These apus have a Really good memory controller from what I've seen and since the "gpu" performance is very much depending on memory speed I would really like a follow up video with faster memory.
Yeah I plan to get the fastest I can find then compare all of the chips again :)
@@RandomGaminginHD can you please try to bump a bit on the igpu clock speed in ryzen master too?
@@RandomGaminginHD Sir, what are the specs of this pc and where to buy?
@@RandomGaminginHD you don't need the fastest, just a kit that is known for good overclocking potential. A Crucial Ballistix 3000C15 kit would be perfect for this task.
Patriot Viper 4400cl19 best b die kit. I own the myself and was able to stabilize it at 4200cl16 paired with 10700kf.
1:38 if your PC maintains above 30fps in Valentine or Saint Denis, then your PC is good for RDR2.
I'd say that most open-world games can be played perfectly fine at 30fps
I had to lower my game to 720p 90% resolution scale to maintain 30. RDR2 doesn't run well on old architectures (Kepler in my case lol).
@@victfv kepler in your case... Pun intended ?
@@carltonleboss no. Just no
I find on my 3070 it runs perfect in Valentine and Saint Denis but when I get near water I get drops down to 45 FPS or so.
This guy is great! His channel is great and it is awesome to see it grow over the years!
Always a good day when you upload
I know right :) You can call me "Tortellini" :)
@@RequiemDream stfu
@@seonggi-hun7718 Happy eastern :) Be happy today :) You can insult me tomorrow :) It's God's day today :)
i bet in 2031 i will be watching RandomGaminginHD testing Crysis Remastered with a Ryzen 14750G :D some things just never change
Might be worth a look if you want light gaming but proper horsepower for workstation tasks.
If you could get a prebuild with this it would probably make for a good stopgap until GPU prices recover, but the Vega 11 on the ryzen 3400g has three more GPU cores so...
Really enjoy your iGPU reviews, I hope you will take a look at the new Xe based UHD 750 in the 11900 as a follow up to your 10900 UHD 630 review.
wow, i just saw one of these and was thinking about buying one 5 mins before you uploaded, great timing.
will definately be a great and affordable upgrade over my 2600 lol
RandomGaminginHD you are a genius mate! *Thank you* :D
Spending my sunny 5pm with the "Hello everyone and welcome to another video, now..." Guy. Love u!
thanks ..for good content ..love the way you do stuff ...keep going
I have been watching your videos for a while thanks for making me save money and gain performance ......
really enjoyed this video, thank you sir!
What is really stunning about the Renoirs is their crazy fast memory controller/Infinity Fabric, I can push my 4650G to 2100 Mhz IF with matching DDR4 TridentZ at 4200Mhz, CL18 so I can keep it at a 1:1 ratio with crazy low latency across the board. No other overclocking on the CPU. I use a discrete GPU so that won't matter too much for my system but if you game on the IGP this will give you a LOT more fps compared to 3200 Mhz RAM. Would love to see a comparison of a similar configuration. Great video, I love these chips!
Great video, very interesting. Would love to know how this performs on CPU heavy games like management games (Football Manager for instance), to see how much of a bottleneck the GPU part can be for this type of games.
This is basically what I want for a workstation/homeserver setup.
2 cores for the server function and 6 for the workstation together with the integrated graphics.
For gaming an APU with 6 cores and a bit beefier graphics might be better.
Nice review. Exactly what I thought; AMD APU's are fine at lower settings, whereas Intel iGPUs ar still terrible.
Really looking forward to the 5700g being released and you reviewing it, my gpu died and these apus are getting better and better
I want one as an upgrade to my 2700X. And with the current GPU environment, I've been on a GT 1030 which is also bested by the 5700G's apu.
@@michaelstrasburg5451 i have a first generation i5 and my gpu died some weeks ago...this seems as reasonable a purchase these days as the i5 did back then, I only hope these apus are durable...I mean this i5 performs as new after 12 years...
@@michaelstrasburg5451 Did you buy a prebuilt? A GT 1030 with a 2700x is wonky.
@@Evan_Schaefering Oh it is real wonky. No, I sold my 2060S because I needed the money back around November or so, turned out to be real stupid.
Good review! I just made myself a new PC utilizing this cpu on an ASRock x570 Taichi mobo, I allowed it via bios to have 8 gig of my 64 gig onboard and get great frames in 1080p (never under 70 really in GTA5 and RDR2) with the 3060ti it's a whole different story the frame are just nuts over 100 every game i've tried..
I love your videos dude
I love videos like this. :)
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@@bingk398 hi :)
I would have loved to see the direct comparison to the 3400g and 4350g.
Both of the 4000-series run with vega 8, whereas 3400g runs with vega 11.
Granted, there might be some improvements, but it's hard to find hard data on the subject.
Also...
Both R5 4350g and r7 4750g are being imported in Denmark by one of the bigger re-sellers and are selling at reasonable prices. (Coming next week)
They are tray/oem/no cooler included and cost about 50% and 100% more than 3400g
But given the massive CPU improvement over the 3400g, kinda makes some sense.
If APUs were able to use integrated DLSS they would be absolute powerhouses for laptops. And if they're able to upscale 720p content to 1080p then you save on battery too
Awesome video! If you can get your hands on a 3600mhz ram kit and try some overclocking it should make for a great part 2. I want to see what that APU can really do.
Good video keep up the good work 👍
It'd be interesting to see this processor paired with a graphics card say a rtx 2060 etc great video bye the way.
dude I love your videos
APUs have come so far. I started with an am3+ a10 7800 non-k and an r7 250 to try HSA, and I still remember being blown away by the gains I had over my previous system. A core 2 duo e5200 with a evga Nvidia 6200 agp card...
Forgot to mention I jumped from windows Vista to windows 7 pro as well.
That made a HUUUGE difference.
Wow, I was surprised how good the graphics were. For light gaming , Web and UA-cam surfing it would be a piece of cake. Thank you.
Web and UA-cam surfing have been accomplished by Intel Hd graphics or a while now lol
came for that calm voice and the intro
I have the same APU. I play all my games on it although not at like high quality. Nice to see it here.
I'm trying to get a hold of one of these for my Small Form Factor project. Paired with the Palit 2060 from the last video 😅
Can you do a comparison with stock vs the same chip but after running memory calculator and clock tuner? I think that'd be interesting... Most people buying this chip not in a pre-built are going to be doing at least automated overclocking with those apps if not doing it manually.
grat video.
i think the person who buy this apu for gaming realistically plays esport titles like csgo and dota it would be nice to include these games for these situations
Would love to see These APU benchmarks
Cant wait for Ryzen 3 4350G Test with Good memory speed
Pretty good for an APU. I got the 4700G just a week ago. Been testing a few oldie but goldies like L4D2, F.E.A.R, Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, FlatOut: Ultimate Carnage, Portal, TrackMania Nations Forever, etc. All show great results at 1080p high-ultra with ReShade SMAA (for the ones that struggle with MSAA). I paid close to $550 USD for this pre-built before tax/delivery and I feel that it was worth it. Great APU for productivity and older gaming.
On these ryzen apu's you should always tune memory timings as tight as possible, you gain over 50% performance, specially on these chips, they have great memory controllers.
i would love to see the next gen of this using rdna based gpu, cant imagine the impact of this apu for sff
I use this as my daily driver. together with a 2060 Super, and its fantastic for my needs. I use it mostly for virtual machines with GPU passtrough, and running my linux and OS X VM desktop with the intergrated graphics.
its not the best for gaming (L3 is 8MB), but its good for starting out without a GPU.
Now I'm interested on this APU thing. I'd e glad to watch a new video but with faster ram
Here in slovenia we have the ryzen 3,5 and 7 pro apus available like any other cpu in some computer stores.
I just built an Asrock X300W Deskmini PC with the Ryzen 7 4750G it's an awesome chip for casual gaming and everything else. PCIe 4.0 on the NVMe slots is a huge plus as well.
It would be interesting to see this APU's integrated graphics compared to the new i5-11600's Xe integrated graphics for those who may be having difficulty finding a graphics card at MSRP; something to get by with. A 'left one', good until the right one comes along. I like your content, always interesting.
Would love to see this vega 8 against the vega 11 from the 3400g. I remember the vega 11 of the 3400g performing evenly or better than a gtx750 ti but here the 4750 vega 8 seems to perform worse even though they should be quite close in performance
As someone already sayed in the comments those APUs have an excellent memory controller and you can easily run some fast memory for improving the graphics performance. Just search and buy some B-Die based memory and try to push for the highest freq and lower timings. For new memory check the Patriot Viper Steel RAM DDR4 4000 MHz. Where i live are some of the cheapest 4000mhz memory but only the 4000mhz+ since the others are not B-Die based.
Would love to see a comparison between the APUs stock and oc'ed.
Just asking,
What about Sandy bridge i3s? (it's been almost 10 years I feel old XD)
Do they perform well in 2021? (I know obviously not but would love to see a vid about them how they hold up today)
They sell for cheap now.
I just love how you test literally every low spec and old Cpu's and GPu's..... My Pentium G630 is crying.... It would really to be nice to know what the performance is at 720p
I decided to go the route of buying a 4650g and dropping it in a b550 board while waiting for GPUs to come back down in price. Figured the extra $50 over the Ryzen 3600 was well worth it for the iGPU.
I get pretty similar gaming performance which I'm very happy to see.
Vega has always been a rather interesting architecture for Gaming, and the Vega to the 08th Power that is in the Zen II APUs and Ryzen Embedded lineup shows that Ryzen 4000 is very easily a decent Go To option for a Budget Emulation Station rig that probably won't have a Graphics Card for a while, you can probably get in some decent play of certain Wii and PlayStation 03 titles on this chip standalone and it shows how far both CPU and iGPU performance has evolved over the past decade, when compared to Intel and Nvidia.
If memory serves correctly, this Vega 08 that is running in the Ryzen 4000 lineup is based on the Vega 020 architecture (Second Generation Vega), which ultimately makes me feel bad that we didn't get a full series of cards for this era: When Vega to the 056th and 064th Power were originally in development during the First Generation, there was at least a variant with 0I2 or 0I6 Compute Units (which Linus showed off in a program on LTT) and likely would've been the successor to the Polaris cards on the Low Profile side of matters (anything ending in "50" or "60"); if Radeon VII wasn't the only Vega 020 card to come out for Consumers in 20I9 (this does not include the Radeon Pro Vega II and its Duo counterpart), I've a feeling that AMD could've taken up some decent market share by putting this architecture to good use, the 1070 (Ti)~style performance of Vega 056 and 064 make it clear that it was able to throw down in Gaming and Workstation tasks just fine and thus it is a possibility that Second Generation cards could've made a real difference in the market (had HBM II not cost as much back then, of course); wishfully we'll see another prototype down the road of a unit with 024, 032, or 048 Compute Units to see what Vega could've done for the Midrange and Upper Midrange demographics.
I know its lame but I do on occasion like to call up resource meter and look at my 12 processors running in the graphs there, mine is the 5 without gpu and the change from a AM3+ 93xx cpu to a Ryzen 5 was astonishing. Did they do an all bells and whistle GPU Ryzen 9? I bet that would be an amazing chip. I am now on the SSD standard, WD Blue 1tb held back because ASrock don't seem to like giving their punters the little m2 screw to hold the bloody thing in place :(
I think the 11th gen intel onboard video will be worth your time doing a video on as well.
The real highlight of this chip is the Memory Controller. Buildzoid was able to push most of his best RAM sticks up to 5ghz or higher when paired with the right motherboard. Performance should scale pretty well with better memory this chip.
thx for this showcase
you can sometimes find these for a rather reasonable price here in the states from people who bought prebuilt "budget" gaming computers from the likes of walmart or whatnot, and didnt realize the system lacked a discrete gpu. My local facebook marketplace has one for 500 usd in an HP. Something to think about.
Wouldn't it be nice if low end APU's came with high end integrated graphics? It can be done, like an Atholon 200G with Vega 11 iGPU, that would be sweet.
They already do, you are misunderstanding naming convention of Vega graphics. It is called Vega 11 not because it is higher end, but because it has 10-11 graphic cores, while one in this video is called Vega 8 because it has 8 graphic cores.
They also mix their naming scheme for Vega all over the place. It used to represent number of graphic cores, but it can also represent techprocess in nm.
TLDR: Just because number on model is lower, does not mean it is lower end.
Really impressive!
Hey dude love your videos but is there a way you can make your video audio louder? I usually have to turn my volume high and when I go to watch another video I forget to turn my volume down and it ends up being loud
Get some decent memory and overclock that APU, great gains and much fun to OC.
That's a pro apu it can't overclock
@@DOdS1 I seen someone OC a 4650g on the gpu side
G'day Random,
It will be interesting to see what performance increases IGPs will get with DDR5 when it is mainstream & performing better than DDR4, I hope too that they can get enough Bandwidth to allow access to more than just 2GB of RAM, 4GB or even 6GB if possible would be a huge improvement for higher detail settings,
On another note I as you use Resolution Scaler quite often, I have been wondering if you have done any testing to see if there is a performance difference between using Native Resolution & 1080p with Scaling to increase FPS, so 720p vs. 1080p @ 67% or 900p vs. 1080p @ 84%, my main thought is does it affect RAM usage making one perform a bit better than the other, or do you just get the same performance either way you downscale?
I don't know if anyone else watching may be interested, but I feel when your PC is trying it's hardest to hit an average of 30FPS/60FPS every little bit helps, especially in the 1% & 0.1% lows
Performance is pretty decent, in my opinion we are not yet there considering the price they are currently selling this cpu for. But maybe at this rate in a couple more generations we gonna have apu powerfull enough to run games at 1080p and 60 fps without needing a dedicated graphics card, that would be truly amazing :)
It’s impressive how APUs are that strong today. Maybe one day there will become so powerful, that there no longer will be any Graphics card needed for gaming
The best APU is weaker than a GTX 1050 by far
Might be so. But it’s still inpressive, when you consider, that something like that could be build in into an mobile. If it would be more optimised, then games like R6 or Rocket league would be playable for sure
No dude current PC APU’s have terribly weak GPU’s the best APU’s are in the PS5 and Xbox Series X.
Then you couldn't upgrade it, I've upgraded 12 GPUs by the time I upgraded 1 CPU (maybe it was 2, but still that's a lot!). Its like a prebuilt, I don't want to trash the whole machine when half of it's still good. I could afford to buy the best CPU every year, but that's wasteful (plus if it doesn't support 4x GPU crossfire then it's probably not going to match my gaming build, and then you have to get weird stuff like Epyc or Xeon multi-socket for multi integrated graphics somehow and I just don't see that working well.
APU is fine for now, but the thermal output would not be possible to cool (like my big desktop is 1700w of thermal load, but it's easy, there are 5x water blocks soaking up heat that's all spread out and so nothing really gets over 55c, but I've had to use exotic cooling like sub-zero phase or dry ice to cook thermal loads that weren't even that high but because it was such a small chip even with the board freezing over the CPU just wasn't getting cold enough and it was only like 250w but it was such a small die size the thermal density was practically like a laser focus that I'm trying to cool and just not practical). If you don't mind using LN2 then maybe, but that gets too expensive for me besides when Im just having fun.
@@jakegarrett8109 12 to 1 ratio is quite crazy. Either you got the greatest CPU of a time, and mid-low range GPUS frequently swapped out. Probably both. lol
Can you test it out with a dedicated graphics card too? Specifically a mid to high end one. Seems like a viable 2 in 1 solution for people like me who want to build a PC now but don't want overpriced cards. For it's price in my area and the current situation, the near 3700x performance seems like a better option to allocate the budget towards than a 1650/1050ti or used 570/580. Just curious about bottlenecks with latest gen GPUs since I plan to get a 3060 when stocks and prices go back to normal.
So close to that magical 1080p 60fps. Maybe next year ????
just bought my mother a 4650g minisforum mini pc, its amazing, but I have a feeling she hasn't run any games on it yet!
Instead of comparing to apus, I'd like to see it compared to older hardware like the recent 8350 and 960. As someone with an 8320 and 770, I'd like to see if it would be any kind of performance bump.
Nice video! Wish I could have waited 2 years... I have an AMD Ryzen 5 2400G Processor with Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics, 4 core 8 thread CPU and its fine for daily use, NOT for gaming, and strangely enough it does not work for video capture using the Radeon ReLive software/drivers.
Does this APU work with ReLive?
@@faultyservice I saw that... yuck. Rather they just fixed the darn thing.
I don't know if i've just been lucky, but my 3400g runs absolutely brilliantly on the asrock x300, the bios is easy to tinker so i have the chip running at 4.1 all cores and the 2666mhz ram is 32gb running at 3000, i highly recommend the x300 as a mini pc for ryzen apu's i've used the 3400g in 3 setups on 3 different motherboards, and the x300 has been faultless, the kit only cost £174 with added twin usb 2 ports and vesa mount. You obviously have to add sodimm and storage but this mini pc fly's.
If the 4750g is even better then i shall have one when the crazy market calms a bit,.
I also have a music/audio pc setup so the 8 cores would help with samples/audio work, it might make a nice mini music pc that you can light game on.
Seems like this is a great option to get baseline graphics performance NOW, for an upgrade in the near future. That is, IF YOU COULD GET ONE!!
That cpu in thumbnail looks dope in black
I spent this evening benchmarking a Deskmini X300 with a 4350G in it, and got waaay worse scores in GTA V... but I think I might have left the advanced graphics settings on 😩
For a 45w chip... It's impressive! There is also a ge version.. which had an even lower tdp
2:20 Perfomance didn't change for me. I'm running a R7 3700X, RTX 2070 and 16GB RAM @3600MHz. I play without raytracing and still have fps drops in city centre from 70+ to 55-50.
It does not need a more powerful gpu. Okay maybe one with higher clocks.
But a big slab of L4 to offset the speed decrease of having to use ram instead of GPU memory would make a bigger impact.
Very interesting. I would like to see how it compares to a 3700X in CPU related benchmarks.
Have you tried windows lite from tech yes city or ghostspectre?
Maybe it can help in low specs pcs
Dual channel definitely a must
You should try overclocking it or allocating more memory to the igpu and look at the performance difference
You only get a max of 2GB RAM allocation to the IGP which Auto will ask for, it is only worth changing to a set value if you need less than 2GB for the IGP,
lets hope this can increase with DDR5
That's actually called reserving, not allocating. Reserving memory for the iGPU means only the iGPU can use it. But also, yeah there's no point in allocating 2GB unless you run low on VRAM (for example if you got 8GB of RAM and there's a heavy game title that requires more VRAM than what you have). Other than that, doing 512MB-1GB should be enough for it to not cause trouble in games.
@@EricPlayZ132 yeah, Reserving, that is that is the word I was trying to get out but my brain couldn't find it when I was Typing 🙄
So thanks for the help 😁
@@shaneeslick Haha, np.
I wonder if some sort of Space Ward technology can be utilized to achieve 60 fps while rendering at 30. Would be a game changed for igpu. This would even allow 144hz gaming for titles that already run at 72 fps
The technology exist, Just it's only on Videos not games.
Man, your voice is so relaxing to listen to.
Yeah if you are in to a beta soyboy voice. Dude sounds feminine as fuck.
@@daddyalpha2648 is it a good thing?
@@DemetriMT03 Being a beta? Hell no. It's a bad thing.
@@daddyalpha2648 bruh your so rude. I’d like to hear your voice lol
Interesting to see how this performs, but if you need a fast CPU with a decent iGPU to hold you over, Rocket Lake is likely better performance and much easier to find. This will be especially true if prices drop over the next few months, as Comet Lake has been very reasonably priced for months now.
According to rumors 6000´s Ryzen will not come with just a new socket but Navi graphics as well, I´m curious what a 6 or 8 core CPU with Navi on it´s side can do.
You can check ETA prime’s video (mini ITX Gaming Build) on this APU if you wanna see how this APU performs with faster ram, he tested it out with DDR4 3600MHz memory which he overclocked to 4000MHz for this CPU
Not sure if the APU's onboard gpu has Radeon Image Sharpening enabled as a feature but it helps A LOT when the image is "blurry" such as when you had to downscale Cyberpunk.
does it impact performance? actually curious for my laptop
@@mongocom1735 In my experience not at all, though I am using it on the desktop, give it a try.
I've got one of these inside ASRock X300 DeskMini. Had to buy an entire MiniTower PC to get the 4750G lol
Will you be doing a video on cyberpunk update?
Did you tinker with the Dedicated GPU memory settings? I have a Ryzen 5 4650G Pro. The motherboard gave 512mb as Dedicated GPU memory as default, but i changed some bios settings and got 2Gb dedicated GPU memory. I get 260fps on ullectical CSGO benchmark, without any stutters.
I love the fact that you can play aaa titles in 720p low with respectable frame rate without an external gpu
When you do get faster memory, check out buildzoids memory recommendations. There’s a lot of cheap RAM nowadays, much of it trash, but some good value and good overclockers.
2:20 for a second I thought you were killing Carl Johnson.
I can't wait to see how AMD's next desktop APU performs. An AMD APU that can play any game on 1080p 60+ FPS at high settings would the dream.
Cay you test the Quadro k1100m? its a pretty common mobile workstation GPU
Would love to see it compared with 3600mhz cl16 and cl18, and even 4000mhz. Ram speed affects APU performances more than most other systems.
4000mhz rams are expensive tho lmao, just get a dedicated gpu if you're just gonna spend more on a faster ram
I bought it for my build (I bought it from a system integrator that had a few left) and using 16gb of 3600mhz cl 18 ram is faster, I also allocated a frame buffer size of 2G in the motherboard which dramatically helps to increase the 1% and .1% lows and I bet that getting the ram to cl16 would help just a little more.
i have a 4600g currently these APUS are gold , its hit or miss on the motherboard, its the motherboard that really determmine the apus performance , i am currently using a asus prime x570 p motherboard and as a result i have the gou running at 2500mhz and the memory running at 4133mhz and im getting 60 to 72fps on most modern titles at 1080p older title pass 75fps.
as long as you can get the memory over 54gbs of bandwidth and the core over 2000mhz you will be pleased with its performance but dont expect high settings , LOW IS THE WAY TO GO WITH THIS ONE
i’ve got the 4650g in a deskmini and it’s the best little workstation imaginable ( didn’t get the 8 core because the bios is buggy with the 8 core)
Hey Steve, have you been able to find a prebuilt with a GT 1010 in it?
Nah haven’t seen any gt 1010s anywhere yet :(
It's a choice between waiting til a GPU (like a 5500) is available, and getting an APU, like the 4650, & maybe 3600 RAM. The 4750 is a bit out of my PC budget. With the 4650, at least my PC build is closer to being completed! 🤓👍 Thanks for the different games & settings. Is there a 4650 & a 4650 Pro?🤔 Chatted with an AMD rep last night & he said the Pro was more for business purposes.