Andretti THREATENED Despite Recruiting MASSIVE Ally!
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Andretti Autosports ongoing bid to join the F1 grid was hit with a massive roadblock at the Miami Grand Prix as Mario the owner of F1 laid down a vendetta against former F1 world champion Mario Andretti. The massive motorsports team with the backing of one of the biggest automakers in the world GM has been jumping through every hoop F1 has set up for them to enter the sport but has constantly been rebutted. Liberty Media’s CEO Greg Maffei made it crystal clear why that is at a meeting in Miami. Today I’ll check out Maffei’s vendetta against the Andretti family, and how the American legal system and former F1 chief technical officer Pat Symmonds could fight through that to earn Andretti Autosport a spot on the F1 grid.
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"didn't think they would be competitive" Umm Kick, Alpine, Williams and Haas combined have less points than Lance Stroll and he licks windows.
The rest of the world doesn't care. F1 has existed without America and would continue to if necessary. But that won't happen. Because everyone makes money, without Andretti.
f1 will always have bottom teams it's how the sport is set up, even in spec series not all teams are in contention for the championship
what we don't need is another bottom team, we already have these one's, so a new team automatically have to proof they could be at least 5th or higher in the consturctors, if they can only be better than 1 or 2 teams then they are'nt worth it
Seems very personal...maybe Andretti should stop.
@@Lora_Beolab And how do they do that without actually competing?
@@Lora_BeolabI do understand some of the skepticism to a degree, as the demands of technical development in F1 are different than a spec-car series like IndyCar. However, what makes you think that Andretti-Cadillac would be a backmarker team, and that they couldn't rise to the challenge? Red Bull is sports drink company, and yet they're one of the most prominent teams on the grid. So, why not?
Tbh as a longtime American F1 fan, I find myself losing interest in the sport as all this plays out.
Then stop watching it.
@@dvscoolright, goodbye.
No, you just think you’re an F1 fan.
I am a fan and feel the same do stuff it !!!
I feel the same way too. I used to think it was the top shelf of racing. Now it is just a private club that will not admit new teams unless they are not competitive.
F1 wants American money but doesn’t want an American team that may actually compete. Talk about extorting the fan base.
No one is holding a gun to anyone's head. American's can stop going anytime they want. But they won't. That's not extortion, genius.
Haas and Williams are owned by American investors. McLaren and Astin Martin are owned by Arab investors. It's all about money. They don't care about sport or fans. Only their return on their investment.
@@dvscool Just declare Liberty Media a monopoly. Then they will not be allowed in the USA. They would lose hundreds of millions of dollars. That would be genius.
Miami Grand Prix alone generates about $400 million in economic impact for the city during the race weekend, this figure is higher than the annual revenue Formula 1 receives from the American market through broadcast rights, hosting fees, and other sources combined. Therefore, Miami likely earns more money from one race weekend than F1 gets back from its overall operations in the U.S. market annually.
Who is McLaren then? They are an American Team in all but name.
Same with HAAS?
Ban F1 from racing in America. They now have three races in America. That should hit them in the financials.
OK, so F1 moves on without the US, like they have for years and been fine. No one cares.
The track are terrible to watch. Plus it was a breath of Fresh air to watch a European race the other week. Although I must say I do miss Malaysia from the calendar what classic track that was.
I think you have a good idea there. Also remove funding from any country that hosts these races.
@@ddbdirty6919 if you're saying Las Vegas was not an entertaining race to watch you're clearly a dumbass
They could do far worse things to them than that don't forget Liberty Media who is the one doing this is an American company and the reality is Congress can get all up into their business
Hopefully congress throws the book at them.
Oh aye, the GOP are the ones to sort it out. 🤣
@@sidsuspiciousif he manages to get even the Dems involved this may get serious
The fact Pat was "involved" in the famous Singapore crash gate, suspended and then back again.....tells you all you need to know about the sport and its management.
Simmons is on the side of Andretti, not a good move.
The true face of F1 is now seen, controlled by the car manufacturers of F1 racing. As an American fan new to F1, Andretti might be better off staying out of the F1 soap opera they call racing. Maybe we need to stop F1 from racing in the US. altogether.
Go ahead. Americans act like F1 didn't exist without them. It's fucking hilarious. Like F1 depends on them. As you can see. No one cares. Stop watching it. Problem solved.
Please do, F1 was better before you guys decided you were interested.
@@ronmurray7349it is not the same thing, F1 was looking for additional teams, their rules state 12 teams, accommodations are made for 12 teams
Oh yes pls.!! Can we make this happen?
Only a handful of peeps would miss F1 if it didn't race in the US. It's just an occasion for celebrities to be seen, who dont mean as much to the general public as they used to. Once DTS leaves Netflix, F1 interest in the US will plummet just as quickly. US interest in motorsports is nowhere near the levels it enjoyed back in the 90s and 2000s.
Banned them from the 3 dates they have here and you will see how fast they reconsider
LOL - they would move on without them. As they have for years.
@@dvscool great! I can become the Chinese F1 series.
@@grumpy9478Oh yeah, they'll just fall apart without Americans bahahahahahahaha.
@@dvscool there is a reason they have 3 races here what other country have 3 races in one year.
@dvscool Better circuits in China than the street shyte that is Vegas and Miami
Congress could ban the broadcast of F1 in America and prohibit the sale of goods for F1 as well as ban them from participating in the stock market. Ford is already in F1 as well as HAAS, McLaren has benefited in F1 from their INDY involvement. MERC and Ferrari don’t want another engine supplier in F1. Andretti would become the largest F1 team within a couple of years and hey don’t want he sport to “become” American. It’s probably very crooked and too much American influence would disperse the shakedown. As far as value, F1 would probably triple in size with an American team within 10 years.
You're delusional. Which is typical of new fans. If American was gone tomorrow, F1 would go on. I don't personally care if Andretti is in the sport or not. But they sure as fuck don't need to be. The sport is doing just fine without them .
There’s no way Andretti becomes the biggest team in F1 ever. They would probably never win a championship and struggle to score points for 3 to 4 years
@@James-iv9fh I don't think you understand Andretti Autosport. They don't take low performance lightly.
@@James-iv9fh I think you're silly, after 3 or 4 races Andretti global would dominate every single race. Have you ever been to an actual race? Sure doesn't seem like you have.
I like the way you think.
The US Lawmakers need to disenfranchise Liberty Media OR for Liberty Media to sack Maffei .
We need 1 more team I would like 2 more to keep the numbers even and allow more drivers since drivers careers are getting longer they need more seats
The other teams don’t want this sadly because they don’t wanna get less money, so it seems unlikely we will get more cars on the grid :(
Andretti-Cadillac already has an INCREDIBLE Antitrust lawsuit against F1 and Liberty Media
@@ronmurray7349 Aaah, the shade you threw there... 😅😅😅
Andretti-Cadillac have a good case, the bad news is, if it went to
court, the case would be settled about 2030-32.
@@leedodge4227 Depends on how fast the investigation goes, and if the case can be expedited.
Just the fact that 200M anti dilution fee isnt enough.. Says it all. Back in 2010's there was way worse teams, getting a chance. This is actually someone, who could do something in F1.
Imagine being so out of touch, with their fan base. Im no Andretti fan, but i'd love to see him in F1.
When little kids can't play together
In the USA, Antitrust laws are unreal serious in the United the States.
FOM stated that, basically, Andretti Global would not be competitive. How do they know this if their not allowed to compete? Also, why has Mr.Maffei make this so personal? He said that he will do everthing in his power to keep Andretti Global out of F1. What did Michael do to deserve such a statement? There is definitely something going on here.
They just don’t want new teams, because less money for the other existing teams… it’s not just about Andretti, it’s about any other team that would have an Interest to join, they will complain that they “are not competitive” without even knowing. That’s why we haven’t seen an actual new team since Haas due to people at the top being money hungry freaks.
He is trying to join forcefully. Thats it imo. There is no room for 11th team. Besides, there is nothing more to offer in F1, only cut off $$ from other teams development resources.
Maffei's just a rich dude w/ an ego so big he thinks he can't be brought down. A common rich / powerful guy syndrome. He'll learn the hard way.
He's Jewish
The only reason why I'm watching F1 this year is because I pay for F1 Streaming on my Roku annually , and they waited until after my bill date before the Andretti denial was released
Then stop fucking watching. Why go Americans' think the world relies on them? The rest of the world doesn't care about Andretti. Do you not get that?
This just goes to show everyone that it's a boys club. Andretti couldn't do any worse then alpine or Hass.
They want more money in 28 it will cost 250 million more to join.
More cars might make f1 more exciting then follow the leader
First was Lewis now Maxx, we need to see better racing.
I actually read an article on EssentaillySports that the teams are pushing to increase the anti-dilution fee in the new Concorde Agreement to an astronomical amount of $750 million. If true, that would turn away any potential future teams as they would be asking prospective entrants to fork out over $1B just to enter ($750M for the fee, $300M+ for setting up the facilities and hiring the staff). I'm beginning to think that maybe Ben Sulayem was on to something about the teams over-inflating their value, as that fee is not based on any intrinsic reality based value but rather on a projected future value.
if the lawmakers can go after Liberty media because it is based in the USA
simple solution-- move out of the US (Monaco maybe?)
and scratch the 3 US races!
there are plenty of countries that would love to host F1
If American sponsorship companies leave, F1 is bankrupt, you better figure out how to deal with America or your screwed, look at every car, their covered head to toe, with American companies. 😂😅
@@arkangelarkangel1302 Sponsors can be changed. there are sponsors lining up to be on an F1 car. You guys think you are the center of the universe!
So Andretti can threat Liberty with congress but when Mafei respond they accuse him of making a vendetta ?
Umm 🤔!!!! ONE Person against the Andretti Family!!!!!! 🤢🤮
There r already teams that r not competitive and I am sure they would definitely do better 🇦🇺
They're just chickens, they know full well that if the Andretti's get approved it would take just 3 or 4 races before the only name you'd see is the Andretti name at the podium.
They'll just keep raising the bar with every action that Andretti global makes, the other teams are shaking in their shoes with the thought of any Andretti competing with the rest of the low level drivers of the other teams.
Ganassi and Penske have more to offer. Your level of "confidence" is delusional.
FIA should just have them sign a clause where Andretti must maintain ownership and cannot sell the team. Then you just go back to 10 teams when they go.
If Andretti maintained ownership of a team then why would he change the name ?
Personally I'm not a huge fan of how man races America is getting regardless of how much interest they have. But to me it would be better having more cars on the grid I use to like seeing 26-30 cars on the grid just like old times. Plus Andretti has the financial backing to stay in the sport for as long as possible.
With thier race record who else could possibly be concidered if andreti are no good . Crazy
They don't comment in the broadcasts about how many cars are lapped in a race and don't show in the graphics how many laps down the back markers are. Not competitive ? The sport is very manipulative and boring. Most tracks have no opportunities to pass and the qualy dictates the order. It's getting more and more like big time wrestling or boxing. Maffei needs to be ejected.
LOL
Let’s be real people are afraid of an actual American team coming in and building a top team.
US can block F1 races in the US and Liberty Media can mourn their very expensive Las Vegas baby race. And ban Drive to Survive, basically any source of income for F1.
LOL
That's a bit thick coming from a country that has "world championships" but doesn't invite other countries.
What about all the teams that of entered f one that have not improved Mario Andretti and the advertisement family deserve to at least give it a go. Then we will all know if they can do it or not.🇺🇸
This has nothing to do with america. Another american team could join its just andretti who is not being allowed
If the USA government would stop all F1 races from happening and bloke's all future F1 races from taking place...
I bet then they would let in andretti....
There should not be any money reason why 2 more teams to enter F1... but F1 has become ALL about the money and not about fans and which team can build a better car on the day...current teams have brought SHAME on formal 1 because they they more interested in the money 💰...
Reson, why I stopped watching F1 as well, libaty instance on street tracks...
You stopped watching, yet continue to comment ? The government isn't gonna do shit. And if they do? So what. You know, F1 existed and would exist without America . You comprehend that right ?
F1 would just have new races in Asia, and they wouldn’t be in parking lots😂 bye😂
If FoM is found guilty of violating the Sherman act, as an American owned company, they will not be able to conduct ANY business in the US. Now, this government is pretty incompetent at important stuff on both sides but this would be a slam dunk. Remember, they couldn't make a case against obvious murders in the Mafia, but locked them up for tax evasion. Lol
@@dvscoolyet, F1 wants a 4th race in America in Chicago… it appears F1 really does need the American money…. I mean fan base.
@@RobertHarridge Yeah, and notice they're doing it without Andretti? Weird. You seem to forget how long F1 existed without America, which is typical.
The Andretti's need to make it their life-long mission to bring Greg Maffei down.
I thought they recruited massi. Almost lost hope
What if Americans started pulling the Plug on F1 TV All of this is over a personal grudge by Liberty Media! So Sick!
hahahahahahahahaha....suuuuuuure. - GO AHEAD !
@@dvscool Liberty is so full of SH!T PERIOD! JMO
F1 is already owned by an American company, this by itself is the nail to the coffin. Might as well let Andretti in. What puzzles me is the personal vandetta towards Andretti. Good luck with that Maffei
Vegas, Miami and Austin should just say, We wont want to host F1 anymore.
That will get Andretti into F1.
The could do what FIFA does and relegate teams to F2 who perform bad and allow other teams to compete and further the sport.
New to F1, if this is a terrible idea tell me 😅
people would'nt want to invest in f1 teams that have a chance of getting kicked out of the sport so the performance difference between the top and bottom teams would be even bigger
What i dont understand is why two organizations run F1? How can they get anything done with two bosses who dont have to agree? I wont rage quit because im a life long fan. But turning sport into episodes of Dynasty is not a good thing. I dropped my F1 network subscription. But i switched to ESPN sky sports instead. Not giving that dickhead my ten bucks a month was the least i could do. Andretti in Pennsy is like Lombardi in the midwest. We grew up watching them.
It's outrageous that anyone could get away with making comments like that. As you say, there's obviously a personal vendetta of some kind at work here, and that not only looks tawdry to everyone who is watching, but things like that have a habit of backfiring on the person who says them. We'll see. Andretti belongs in F1. That much is obvious.
I think Andretti will go to NASCAR instead. It’s far cheaper and less political. I can even see Honda going to NASCAR if Andretti joins.
No one seems to mention the "other" American team.
HAAS may be owned by an American citizen, but a large portion of the team operates out of the UK and they acquire a majority of their parts from Italian companies (Ferrari for the engine and Dallara for the chassis). The Andretti-Cadillac bid would wholly American as they would use the main Andretti base in Indiana, the GM engine development facility in North Carolina, and the satellite base in Silverstone (which is in the process of expanding from 48k sq ft to include an additional 70k sq ft). Besides, HAAS lost a lot of credibility for this American F1 fan (been a fan since the V10 era in the early 2000s) after they sold out to the Russians.
Honestly HAAS, is nowhere what Newman Haas, was in Nascar and Indycar, they need to sell to Andretti/Cadillac... also, all this can be settled, if AMERICANS put pressure on all the American sponsorships in F1, from Oracle, Shell, HP, Citi, Google/Android and Microsoft. You'd kill F1.
You do know that HAAS has nothing to with the defunct Newman/Haas team from CART/Indy Car/IRL days right? Newman/Haas was started and owned by actor Paul Newman and Carl Haas.
We need Elon Musk to have a look at acquiring Liberty Media...
What does Andretti have to offer, besides the name?
Even without Andrety we already have Formula 1 team for big event 20 year plus, so what why he not join in the oast and only join now when Formula 1 in peak condition not in bottom condition fxk Andrety goe out just wait 2028
I felt like I had an aneurysm just by reading your comment.
andretti would have a way better chance at being competitive than hass alpine and Williams they seems like they would be like aston esk with how big gm is
would like to see them just make a car under current regs to see how fast they would be but it would be a costly power move
And you deduce that from what? Andretti has never built a car that they raced.
F1 should be banned in the USA and lose broadcast rights as well
This is hard ball politics and money talks. F1 is very provincial. They're turning down a factory team with that competes globally. Get the egos out of the way end go racing. Maffei donated 250k to djt campaign
The USA has plenty of quality racing leagues… F1 is boring… I attended my first F1 race in 1978…. It’s not racing… more of an extended qualifying session with most passes taken place in the pits…..
F1 is traded on NewYork Stock exchange, that means all the money behind it is based in US
lol
Maybe it's time for a new racing series with a different regulatory body less interested in protecting the wealth of the existing teams. Cars that can overtake. No batteries, synthetic fuel. Bring Newey and Vettel in to help set it up. The teams and drivers will follow. F0.
lol
The video is not correct. There are only 2 ways to enter F1. Buy an existing team and change the name. Or approval of the application by ALL of the teams. No other way . Same as in any other sport ! There is nothing special here. Try and enterr a new sport team in any other field.
The problem though is that not all 10 of the existing teams would approve any new team regardless of how good prepared it is, they won’t because obviously that would mean less money for the teams. That why you see so many people buying a existing team rather than going the long way like Andretti is doing, and is also the reason ever since Haas around 10 years ago, there has not been any new teams… F1 is basically just being controlled by the other manufacturers, I don’t personally think it’s fair.
in the concorde agreement, there're slots for additional teams to join F1
I’ve been to 3 fórmula one races but promised not to attend another one until they let Andretti Global in, besides being so expensive f1 doesn’t care about American fans
No one cares. Only America care about America.
Andretti needs to get over it and move on. instead of crying and asking congress to help.
If Andretti isn't in F1 in 2026 I'll stop watching.
I watch. I just boycott the advertisers.
Doesn't Gene Haas own a team and isn't he American?
Shhhhh. You'll upset the fanboys.
Yes, Gene Haas has an F1 team but Gene just seems to be using the 2 cars as rolling billboards for his business and not really interested in developing the car into a championship winner.
@@mouser485 They're doing everything they can given the resources they have and have scored some valuable points this year.
@@dvscool I agree, the new team manager is doing his best with what Gene has given them but Gene needs to give them more and if he can’t he needs to find it. I’ve read more than one article that seems to indicate gene is ok with a top 15 team. They need another major sponsor besides Haas’s tool company.
Technically they are American owned but as we all know they are basically the Ferrari junior team.
Time to start Formula American
If Andretti isn’t on the grid in 26 I’m done with this mostly euro trash sport.
You guys are so funny. you talking about euro trash sport ... and on the same time... you race circles in NASCAR. LOL. Americans have no idea on building a race car whatsoever. F1 doesnt need andretti or anyone else. It was, it is and will always be a European thing and there is no room for another team. Let him buy HAAS and you're good to go, but NO. He has to go legal and forcefully invade the sport. If andretti ever joins F1, then I'm the one that will stop watching it.
@@garbageOnline that deal was cut after WWII. US does nuclear weapons & aerospace... Brits get F1. & you are free to do you.
This American better watch what he says cause we are Americans and In America you cannot hide from the people remember that
Whats the matter you all afraid of another Ford vs Ferrari deal where Andretti will come in and kick your little European teams asses like Ford kicked Ferraris ass?
lol sure bud. Cause yeah that's what always happens with new F1 teams isn't it. Get a grip.
F1 don't need Andretti the sport is better off with another European team.
Lol then why is F1 an American company and so damn desperate for the American market because they've tapped all of you Euros for every dollar they can get out of you people they want more money and a bigger audience. If you don't know anything about world economics then don't speak.
Is he still trying?
Get on with your life… jeeeeez…
You watched that whole video, then commented that. Jeez.....
@@NightlyCrepe2 Didn't watch the whole video... boring content of an dude that was already turned down and keeps trying.
F that guy, he like boring engines anyway.
I dont think an American team should ever join the F1. It hasn't for decades and i see absolutely no reason to happen now. Nothing more to offer in the sport except fan's money. Cutting a share to andreti will only harm the rest of the team ... just because this guy wants to forcefully invade F1.
That's the most cowardly comment on this string.
Andretti is fighting awful hard to languish at the back for 4 or 5 seasons before quitting.😂
I think it's just to say he was there tbh. F1 and the owner obviously have a personal problem with Andretti that goes beyond just passing all the obstacles to make it to the grid. Michael Andretti isn't doing himself any favors by escalating this either.
Oh and just so you know F1 the more you guys try to shit on American companies and American race teams. Nobody in America is going to pay a dollar into F1. That's why Indy is still more popular here.
That’s cause Americans are too smooth brained to concentrate on anything involving a right turn.
I wouldn't allow F1 to race in the US until Andretti is allowed to join.
Good. The only f1 race in America worth watching is Texas. Could do with out vegas and Miami. If it means losing Texas to get rid of the other 2 then it’s worth it.
Ever one stop going to f1 no cowards no money
EF F1.