Easy Hoover Synth Tutorial

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  • Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
  • The easy way to program the classic "hoover" rave synth - also known as dominator or mentasm - originally derived from the "What The" preset on the Roland Alpha Juno keyboard.
    Ingredients:
    1) Sub oscillator (triangle, or square)
    2) A buzzy oscillator one octave above the sub (PWM square, or 2 detuned saws, or unison saws)
    3) Another buzzy oscillator, another octave higher (as above)
    4) Optional: subtle white noise (don't need this if you're using unison saws)
    5) Optional: chorus (fast rate, medium depth, similar to vibrato which you can use as well/instead)
    6) Optional: pitch sliding (can be portamento, pitch envelope, an LFO, or any combination thereof)
    7) Dreadlocks (they help, honest)
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 218

  • @thehistoryofchingfordwater8933
    @thehistoryofchingfordwater8933 Рік тому +21

    Pretty good! I'm die hard juno, as you mention the alpha juno can do things that no other jupiter, juno, or indeed any other analogue synthesiser can do due to pwm and env mod. It remains my best analogue synth of all time. However, you created a work around which is impressive. Most hoovers these days are using a sample which I produced for future music mag when I wrote the review. Can always tell when somebody is using that sample because I stuck it through a Roland boss se 50, which added slight multi effects. Interesting video. Thanks!

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  Рік тому +4

      Awesome, I'd love to know more! Where can I find your sample? Was it published on floppy or CD? I've contributed to Future Music as well (around ~10 years ago).

    • @Basedboomerchadbear
      @Basedboomerchadbear Рік тому

      Rad!!!

  • @LouisCann
    @LouisCann 3 роки тому +70

    this is genuinely one of the most straightforward and concise tutorials ever, whilst respecting the classic sound 😱

    • @thatguyalex2835
      @thatguyalex2835 3 роки тому +1

      It is missing a classic big beat breakbeat. :)

  • @defendrr_ru
    @defendrr_ru 4 місяці тому +4

    If only every tutorial for the synth was like this. It's incredible to have an explation as to why a certain knob is tweaked instead of "we set x to yy%..." the biggest of ups

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  Місяць тому

      Thank you. I know what you mean. I can't stand the "turn the 3rd knob all the way to the left" type tutorials. Especially when they don't let you hear the various stages along the way. What's the point?

  • @michelangelo7047
    @michelangelo7047 5 місяців тому +2

    The way you explain the synth process is helpful. You explain the nature of the sound & the origin + you’re transparent about the variables and you don’t just suggest an arbitrary setting to copy.

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  Місяць тому

      Thank you so much. That's because I do everything for a reason. In my view it's those reasons that really matter, not the specific parameter values, or whatever. 🙌

  • @TheDoubleGrin
    @TheDoubleGrin 5 років тому +47

    Excellent information and presentation, and thank you for providing a universal breakdown on the components of this patch so that it can be recreated outside of Serum.

    • @SAHOYT71013
      @SAHOYT71013 5 років тому +7

      Exactly my feelings. He did a great job.

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  5 років тому +9

      Thanks! Best way to do tutorials, I reckon!

  • @dnbhead1
    @dnbhead1 5 років тому +19

    Brilliant! I am an aspiring techno producer who grew up mixing DNB, and I've wanted to emulate this old hoover that was featured on a lot of late 90s drum and bass

  • @cartoonbadman
    @cartoonbadman 5 років тому +28

    Sound of my childhood right here :D

  • @knarly3013
    @knarly3013 5 років тому +5

    Im back in the 90's!!!
    Thanks for the good tutorial, just what i needed

  • @glengoodwin
    @glengoodwin 4 роки тому +2

    It’s great to know the kids are getting back into the Hoover! Love this

  • @Grim-bx3ox
    @Grim-bx3ox Рік тому

    Randomly watching vids while bored at work. You are well versed and well spoken, can't wait to watch more of your videos..

  • @DSilkSmooth
    @DSilkSmooth 5 років тому +4

    Well done Owen, brilliant tutorial. Had loads of fun making this patch and modulating it. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge

  • @AngryBulldogg
    @AngryBulldogg 5 років тому +5

    7) Dreadlocks (they help, honest)
    Ha nice finishing touch, the most crucial component! Great vid again man

  • @an1xpyramid639
    @an1xpyramid639 3 роки тому

    5:24 oh my god, the sampling and the effect bring this shit alive

  • @Brisbae
    @Brisbae Рік тому +1

    one of the best sound design tutorials on youtube. great job!

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  Рік тому

      Thank you so much, more on the way

  • @olexpono
    @olexpono 5 років тому +3

    Gotta have the locks to make a proper hoover!
    Timely and excellent, thanks!

  • @jaket282
    @jaket282 5 років тому +5

    Excellent tutorial. Some of it went way over my head but you're a seriously knowledgeable dude

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  5 років тому +3

      Cool, stick with it. I've always had the attitude that if something goes over my head I'll just keep revisiting it until it's totally clear.

    • @AdamTheAd-vanc3d
      @AdamTheAd-vanc3d 5 років тому

      @@OwenTheGeek Words of wisdom 👍👍. The Hatt goes over the head the Trixx don't . Asborb at your own pace .

  • @snookofficial7211
    @snookofficial7211 11 місяців тому

    Thanks, I used to have an Alpha Juno, I didn't know you could make that sound with Serum, thanks for sharing.

  • @vnayini
    @vnayini 3 роки тому

    my guy made the best hoover and reese tutorials on the Internet and then dipped. :)

  • @alsoondae5662
    @alsoondae5662 Рік тому

    Very quick and efficient way to understand and reproduce this synth. I'm discovering your channel and it's among the best ones giving me hope to master synths better. Thanks a lot !

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  Рік тому

      Thank you. Not just synths, I hope. Synthesis is merely 1 puzzle piece. 🤓

  • @vitalhostage1719
    @vitalhostage1719 Рік тому

    Absolute Gold this one

  • @karimayoubi74
    @karimayoubi74 4 роки тому +2

    Yay! I've wanted to know how to do this for ages! Thanks. You just earned a subscriber. :)

  • @christianhaugaard5853
    @christianhaugaard5853 2 роки тому

    Takes me back to the early 90´s

  • @apoplexiamusic
    @apoplexiamusic 5 років тому +9

    BEST HOOVER TUTORIAL EVER!!!!!!!!! :D thank you!

  • @brnsndwch
    @brnsndwch 5 років тому +1

    Top notch tutorial ; precise, quick, and actual good sound in the end !

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  5 років тому

      Exactly how every tutorial should be, in my opinion!

  • @tenebrissubterra4596
    @tenebrissubterra4596 4 роки тому

    D-d-d-d dominator. The Joey Beltram mix is mental.

  • @OneEyedWheeler
    @OneEyedWheeler 3 роки тому

    10 seconds in to the demonstration and: BANG! SUBSCRIBED!!

  • @eArtrash
    @eArtrash 4 роки тому +3

    Awesome sound, and very well presented. Gonna have to sub 👌

  • @samsam2235
    @samsam2235 2 роки тому

    Still helpful in 2022. Thanx, brother.

  • @agoogleuser4569
    @agoogleuser4569 2 роки тому

    Cool video. Ive been trying to figure out this patch/sound since 2015. Everyone kept telling me it was the Reese bass.

  • @joshjackson9762
    @joshjackson9762 5 років тому +1

    Thank you so much for this tutorial, it's so helpful to see someone walk through sound design that in a quick an concise manner so that it can be done on any synth. I'll be sure to put this tutorial to good use, keep up the great work!

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  5 років тому +1

      Thank you, I'm glad my style has gone down well

  • @slackjaw2008
    @slackjaw2008 Рік тому

    Great tutorial, can flip this in so many ways. Subscribed

  • @guynamederik
    @guynamederik 5 років тому +2

    Damn dude.... Simply blown away again!

  • @gelatinous6915
    @gelatinous6915 3 роки тому

    The way you explain everything is amazing- just subbed

  • @hdj808
    @hdj808 3 роки тому +1

    Outstanding tutorial sir!! Thank you

  • @GordonBraicks
    @GordonBraicks 2 роки тому

    Exactly what I looked for in the time of need. 🙏🏻

  • @SjN7HETIK
    @SjN7HETIK 3 роки тому

    Really awesome and well made demo my dear friend, thanx, really, THANX. U also mentioned two masterpieces, Mentasm and Charlie

  • @eightcoins4401
    @eightcoins4401 Рік тому

    the two detuned sawtooths are basically a really basic supersaw, which is the PWM equivalant for sawtooth

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  Рік тому

      I see what you mean. That's certainly a valid way to view it!

  •  4 роки тому

    this is wonderful! the most authentic implementation I've found on UA-cam so far! subscribed immediately! thanks, Man!

  • @josephwood2098
    @josephwood2098 3 роки тому

    Amazing mate! This very sound is/was my first ever taste of rave music (The Prodigy). It scared the shit out of me and I loved it. Thank youuuu!!

  • @pandadotrar
    @pandadotrar Рік тому

    What a great tutorial ! Thanks for the in depth explanation !

  • @BookooZenny
    @BookooZenny 4 роки тому

    I'm really happy I discovered this channel

  • @pyrofreak3402
    @pyrofreak3402 4 роки тому +10

    The typical hardcore Sound...:)

  • @Drakanstein
    @Drakanstein 2 роки тому

    Thank you Owen.
    I heard this kick ass backing track by Dan Morrissey and I THINK this is the sound he uses for the intro.
    they defined it as " Heavy Synth Bass Drama..."
    This sounds so close - I think it mustve been a "Hoover" of some kind.. Thank you again

  • @cromatik2364
    @cromatik2364 4 роки тому

    Haven't enjoyed a tutorial this much in a long time, subbed!

  • @dafunkycanuck
    @dafunkycanuck 3 роки тому

    Nice! Going to try this in vital tonight. Such a great sound!

  • @nathanielfisher343
    @nathanielfisher343 2 роки тому

    Great tutorial! And banging demo at the end 🔥

  • @HardKickinGroupGermany
    @HardKickinGroupGermany Рік тому +1

    I recommend the free Plugin "Phutura" it's basically a simplified Alpha Juno

  • @djeastiano
    @djeastiano 4 роки тому

    Great tutorial and love this approach to recreate the sound! Makes it usable in so many genres, good work dude!

  • @KingzofSwing
    @KingzofSwing 6 місяців тому

    Roland always makes hits

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  Місяць тому

      Yeah, they do.... apart from when they don't. Actually, even when they do it's usually by accident. Hmmmm. 🤔

    • @KingzofSwing
      @KingzofSwing Місяць тому

      @@OwenTheGeek nah they are legendary for a reason not by mistake

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  Місяць тому

      @@KingzofSwing of course. But the 303 was an accidental hit. So was the 808. So was the 909. The "What The..." patch on the Alpha Junos has been mocked by its creator. I mean... Sometimes they just made stuff and it stuck for reasons they couldn't have predicted.

  • @TRTSMTT
    @TRTSMTT 4 роки тому +4

    Me at 0:02 "that's the sound from Charlie by the Prodigy, lol!"
    0:19 Confirmed!

  • @AvanaVana
    @AvanaVana 4 роки тому +1

    nailed it

  • @fjufbjdhhfhgrjhh8621
    @fjufbjdhhfhgrjhh8621 8 місяців тому

    Thanks a lot! I was considering buying an alpha juno just because of this sound... But then I found this! Awesome, man! In the 90's besides the Gabber stuff there were a lot of jungle/breakcore records where you would hear on nearly every track a hoover combined with an Amen break, haha.. Greetings from Germany..

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  Місяць тому

      Hey, don't let me talk you out of buying an Alpha Juno. They're great synths! 🤓

  • @Dayta
    @Dayta 5 років тому +3

    the best video about this particular sound and how it is done ... what else is there to say :)

  • @edsohovocals
    @edsohovocals Місяць тому

    Great video/tutorial, thanks. How come you don't use a PWM square wave alongside the saw and triangle? Won't two SAWs (albeit detuned) give a different wave profile and sound to PWM-SQW? Or does the detuning replicate the addition of PWM-SQW exactly?

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you so much! 🙌
      1) Simply because it's not required, and wouldn't get me any closer to the sound I was aiming for.
      2) No, the Alpha Junos had analogue oscillators. The white noise I added is consistent with how the "What The..." patch was made on the Alpha Juno. Now, obviously I wasn't looking to clone the original patch exactly, but I do feel it's a vital ingredient. In my opinion, a bit crusher is a poor alternative.

  • @PoorDog69
    @PoorDog69 3 роки тому

    This vst was used for a DDR song called MAX 300

  • @NIGH.NE.
    @NIGH.NE. 2 роки тому

    Amazing tutorial, so well explained and straight to the point. Thank you :)

  • @MrChamesy
    @MrChamesy 3 роки тому

    Dude this is exactly what I needed, wicked tutorial!

  • @slippers621
    @slippers621 4 роки тому

    great as always Owen

  • @Delta9634-e2k
    @Delta9634-e2k 3 роки тому

    I learn so much today, thank you brother

  • @dmomcilovic9185
    @dmomcilovic9185 5 років тому +2

    Most gabber tunes ever made mostly used this sample too

  • @lathxlxath4560
    @lathxlxath4560 5 років тому

    Came across your videos not long ago while doing some college work but definitely helped me out with sound design, don’t think I’ll be using samples/preset again lol

  • @888berg
    @888berg 4 роки тому +1

    My Man - this is epic!!!

  • @RayBrooks0
    @RayBrooks0 4 роки тому

    BEst hoover tutorial out there. Thanks, Owen :)

  • @afSilverstierna
    @afSilverstierna 4 роки тому +3

    Really nice tutorial with some fun facts in the beginning, thanks! However, the break down of this sound is not entirely correct.
    The main oscillator is a square with pulse width modulation.
    The second is a saw, 1 oct above main, with pulse width modulation (which gives the original it's unique sound).
    The third is a sub oscillator, 2 oct below main, which is a square with a little bit of pulse width (no modulation).
    Top it off with some noise and chorus.
    That's how it's done on the alpha at least. :)

  • @MrZuchiS
    @MrZuchiS 4 роки тому

    Very good tutorial! Thanks!

  • @DJSOUNDWAVE
    @DJSOUNDWAVE 2 роки тому

    I know its been a while since you've posted this, but would you have any idea on how to do this in logic pro? Im trying to apply the concepts youre saying but I'm getting lost in the specifics because they aren't 1 to 1. Still gonna mess with it because I feel like the information is here, but when you're a newbie at this stuff its easy to fall down the rabbit hole in what you don't know.

  • @NanoBl
    @NanoBl 5 років тому +2

    It's the same kind of sound but the alpha Juno only have rectangles waveforms for the sub and I don't remember if it used the square PWM but I am pretty sure it used that weird PWM saw that only alpha Junos had on the main oscillator.

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  5 років тому

      You're right, I made a mistake! The Juno only has square subs, indeed. Also, yes, the PWM on the Juno is a little odd, but essentially non-critical to the creation of hoovery sounds. Thanks for your comment!

  • @DaveS-Ace
    @DaveS-Ace 2 роки тому

    Owen u bloody legend, thanks bro

  • @tuf_i
    @tuf_i 3 роки тому

    Incredible

  • @AboveEmAllProduction
    @AboveEmAllProduction 2 роки тому

    actually the alpha juno had SAW pwm, not only square pwm. something that is indeed missing from pretty much all other synths, where square pwm was the only possibility.

  • @nubman41
    @nubman41 2 роки тому

    since we're talking about hoovers, what are your thoughts on oldschool hardcore (like thunderdome)?

  • @ebezz8818
    @ebezz8818 2 роки тому

    Excellent!

  • @metarotta
    @metarotta 3 роки тому

    very straight forward and well explained tutorial, thank you for this 👍

  • @smsno1
    @smsno1 5 років тому +2

    Totes going to go copy this later. Got a new reverb to drown it in too!

  • @district5official253
    @district5official253 Рік тому

    Bring back those hard house vibes

  • @blaeke64
    @blaeke64 4 роки тому

    Instantly subscribed. Thanks so much for the inspirational tutorial.

  • @Adamveckz
    @Adamveckz 2 роки тому

    sick tutorial bro thanks!

  • @vector867
    @vector867 4 роки тому

    very helpful, informative, and concise. thanks!

  • @SHFTR.
    @SHFTR. 3 роки тому

    so would you do the midi roll on the serum channel rather than sampling it ?
    say if the start point of mine sounds good on serum

  • @readventurekids
    @readventurekids 5 років тому +1

    Ah, excellent! Love me a bit of hoover; Insomniak, 9 is a Classic, Mentasm, etc. It's just such a classic sound... Funny, I was listening to Bad Romance by Lady Gaga yesterday and it unexpectedly has a healthy dose of Hoover in it at the one minute mark.

  • @lenny602
    @lenny602 2 місяці тому

    I've always wanted 2 attempt to make this sound in a stab style like the one in brockie & ed solo's sleeping giant track.. I'm about to try in retrolouge 2.. do you think its possible to get that sound in retrolouge 2? Would love 2 see a video of you doing this in retrolouge

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  Місяць тому

      It's definitely possible, but doing the pitch envelope might be tricky

  • @pablofriedemann5262
    @pablofriedemann5262 Рік тому

    thank you so much bro - this tutorial really helped me a lot

  • @TheMetalsteve
    @TheMetalsteve 10 місяців тому

    Good tutorial. Historical note, though: on the original Alpha Juno patch, it was done with PWM on a SAWTOOTH, which you can also reproduce with Serum.

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  10 місяців тому

      Indeed, and I might be more concerned with those kinds of details if I was actually trying to faithfully recreate the original "What The..." preset. My aim was more to mimic the sampled/resampled "hoover" hits of later generations.

  • @PaulOrtiz
    @PaulOrtiz 5 років тому

    Great tutorial mate. Dig it!

  • @adamsalman49
    @adamsalman49 5 років тому +1

    Awesome

  • @hucky29
    @hucky29 5 років тому +1

    I've got an Alpha Juno and your patch on Serum is on the money!

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  5 років тому +1

      Maybe, but make sure you hang on to that keyboard !!! :D

    • @hucky29
      @hucky29 5 років тому

      @@OwenTheGeek I'll never sell!!

    • @BigPigEnergy
      @BigPigEnergy 3 роки тому

      I miss mine so much. Favourite synth I ever owned

  • @Jim_KYB
    @Jim_KYB 3 роки тому

    Nice! Any tips on how to make the Landlord stab?

  • @blablanmoguer
    @blablanmoguer 4 роки тому

    Very good work, @Owenpalmer do you cut the low end on mix or do we let the bass In is it a synth or a bass synth in the frequency range ?

  • @patk2412
    @patk2412 4 роки тому

    Very informative, thanks

  • @karimsousse5500
    @karimsousse5500 3 роки тому

    Very Good !

  • @blamethesillynotthegoose8120

    amazing

  • @Ryan.Anderson80
    @Ryan.Anderson80 5 років тому +1

    Can this be done using Massive? Not sure how to set up the oscillators etc.
    Sick tutorial and something I've been looking for. Legend.

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  5 років тому +1

      Thanks! Yes, it can be done with Massive

  • @seladore
    @seladore Рік тому

    so good ! thanks for the vids

  • @phenomabomb7497
    @phenomabomb7497 5 років тому +7

    Could you make a video on Supersaws?

  • @chrisbaker7583
    @chrisbaker7583 Рік тому

    melody at the end is hard as hell

    • @OwenTheGeek
      @OwenTheGeek  Рік тому

      Thank you, glad you enjoyed it 🙌

  • @yes_iplaycasual376
    @yes_iplaycasual376 3 роки тому

    Awesome thanks

  • @uaca_uaca
    @uaca_uaca Рік тому

    WOOOOO amazzing !

  • @MrDpBeatz
    @MrDpBeatz 5 років тому +1

    instant sub! great tutorial

  • @NoyaD9
    @NoyaD9 3 місяці тому

    Great man! Was fun to recreate it on the Virus B

  • @valhallaatmedawg6446
    @valhallaatmedawg6446 3 роки тому

    So dope! Badman!