The Experience is the best electronic album to ever be released. I'd love to hear Liam dive into this mind set again. The early 90's were something special.
Prodigy fan boy here: Liam Howlett’s production style and disregard for convention are both fascinating to hear the more I learn about music theory. I would never attempt to wholesale copy his style even if I had the skills, though. Awesome content, Owen!
Immediately went and listened to Experience. What a beautiful video and really good teaching to really understand and enjoy everything about Prodigy, Experience and music of the time
Anybody who knows music/production theory and don't say that Liam Howlett is a fucking genius should be in a fucking jail. His production is a masterpiece, every fucking time. Catchy rhythms, pauses, neat sample use, dissonance use, classic compositional work, breakdowns, drum programming, mixing. This guy should be studied by every popular music producer.
What a brilliant analysis from you and very well and clearly described. As an old skool raver from back in the late 80's and thought out the early 90's I always used to analyze the music I raved to rather than just dance off my head.. The prodigy were my inspiration from day one starting with Charlie, and my favourite after that 'YOUR LOVE'. THANK YOU FOR THIS BRILLIANT UA-cam VIDEO. 👍
That piano section half way through “your love” is blissful, major rushes when i hear it, i remember discovering it on a Rave classics cd when i was 17 and since then I’ve always loved the track. I’ve always tried to convert the melodies to midi and never succeeded you did an amazing job, you should share your work i’d most certainly pay for it ‘Death of the prodigy dancers’ is another one id love to hear the string line on that is great
Fucking lovin this so far man. Intense !!!. Man what an analysis. Very intresting. Maybe this was something Howlett had his style to get away from the italo house style that pretty much saturated dance tracks all over .
Couldnt agree more with what you said about Experience, i grew up listening to that album and i personally think its one of the most important albums ever in terms of dance music.
Thanks... Erm... What rave pack is that? Where did you see that? USH? DOA? Hattrixx? CM? I'm sure I'll be able to dig it out if you can help me identify it
I had the pleasure of knowing someone who knew Liam when we were kids and I was once went round his house and heard what ended up hearing Your Love way before it was ever released (when Liam wasn't famous at all). The Piano at the time was similar but not what it ended up being. I was a raver back then and didn't understand anything about music apart from I liked what I was hearing. This is a great video and I think we have very similar tastes in music. Well done on making what is ultimately a touch concept to grasp very easy to understand.
Let's be honest... The Prodigy are the true game changers, all of those modern day hybrids and genre mashups weren't be the same without the Liam H. and his crew taking 3 different worlds of Rave/Electronica, Rock/Metal/Punk and Rap/Hip-Hop and simply show them, that in fact they are about the same thing B)
if i recall that correctly the slammer piano was used due to the software usage a amiga 500 with protracker a limited amount of ram about 512 kb chipram to hold samples and using this one piano sample wich came from one of the early sample disks for amiga tracker they were numbered like st-01 st-02 and in the first 5 of them somewhere aound that a piano was introduced which should be the piano sample in the slammer .... im not 100% sure i would have to check the bit by bit comparison to be really sure but it rang in my head imidatly .. i donno if liam ever used a amiga tracker back in the days . as for the slammer you can imagine the drum loop was of course part of the first st disks as well and the backwards playing was one simple command in fast tracker which just used up a few bits to play the sample backwards without needing more ram for a aditional sample. im wondering if he whole track was build in the tracker in any case i sometimes wished i could go back in time and watch them do their stuff oh .. ok never mind while im writing this comment a mate just told me that fast tracker wasnt around at that time the song came earlyer than the software itself haha ok i thought it still worth leaving my whole comment just to show how easy it is to foor yourself :) im still wondering tho how they did it then hehe
now im totaly confused i just checked protracker was around 1990 so it was actualy in existence early enough .... i give up :D krome and time please let us know .. thanks in advance :)
Interesting theory, but DJ Krome & Mr Time had an Ensoniq SQ-80 keyboard, where that piano sound is from (plus some others you'd recognise), and The Slammer was made with an Akai sampler and Atari, not a tracker.
Experience was one of the first CD albums I ever bought when I was 12 back in 1993 and it turned me on to hardcore and jungle. It blew my tiny little mind and still does to this day.
One of the most in informative and interesting videos ive seen on youtube, could you do a series on Prodigy's Liam Howlett's production techniques including sampling, melody, drum processing and chords like?
Great video man. I can't remotely play the piano and have a very very basic understanding of chords and key (enough to get by in D&B production), but you really explained this well in a way I can mostly comprehend.
I'm definitely not a music expert, and I'm not even a musician (I just play some acoustic guitar trying to translate some tunes by ear just for fun when no one can hear me :D), but your video really *impressed* me a lot: you really visualized one of the best tunes I have ever heard, and now I can finally see it. I mean the most beautiful (it is!) part of Fire [Sunrise Version] at 5:46. Okay, I'm just too sentimental about it because of my 90s memories when I was a teen ("a rizla a rizla" :D), but trying to pick such a tune by ear is definitely out of my "ear skills", because I just knew/could realize it does not fit regular chords I'm used to play my guitar. Your video is sort of a unique video, you know, no one have yet put a Fire [Sunrise Version] cover for a decade, there are no any "tutorials" for the tune, and now I'm just super-happy I watched it closely, and I won the "sunrise" prize. That's fantastic, thank you! :)
Thanks and 100% right Liam is super talented, hugely under-rated. Personal thanks for your insights into the chords, tension and such. Being a raver all those years ago I had no idea but its great to learn now I’m trying to create 🙃🙂🤩
Amazing video, man! I may be misremembering but I'm pretty sure Liam's Mum made him go to piano lessons as a kid, something he hated at the time but later said he appreciated. It would make sense that he was ahead of others in using progressions or keys that initially feel wrong somehow but suddenly give you that tingle down your spin when resolved properly. Even if you go right back to before The Prodigy to something like Listen To The Basstone that he wrote while in Cut 2 Kill you can hear it although they released stuff without his agreement so he might not have even considered that a final track (I don't think Liam really cared tbh, at that point he knew they needed him a hell of a lot more than he neeed them). Paul Hartnoll is another artist who is very good at it, I swear he is somehow able to do it across entire tracks without the listener even realising too, like some kind of musical magician using misdirection before the big reveal :-)
I'm subscribing to you your sick mate. Love The Prodigy's first 2 albums and even The Music For Jilted Generation was a masterpiece album way before its time. Liam Howlett is actually a grade 12 pianist so yes he is a musical genius.
I've been getting slagged off for years for using that pain/pleasure principal and been told it's not the 'correct' way to make music. One of my early beats (Hip-Hop) was a crazy discordant piano with a ridiculously basses up kick drum. I did it just to see how it would sound and it sounded pretty good. But yea, whenever I hear those type of piano sounds, I immediately go back to the Happy Hardcore days.
Yes Yes Yall .... Classic tarck i can remember first time i heard that on white lable in 92 it took my head clean off and sonz of loop da loop 2 classic tunez, Bizarre in and N Joi were also good tune makes Bizarre inc made some good piano lines too, Would you do a video on Bizarre in on Playing with knives another piano synth classic i would say, Can you still get the samples above as i'm an old raver / DJ from 88-92 and just got into trying to make music with ableton and reason and som out board gear romblers ect Cheers ! Loving the videos top draw prespect Peace !
You need more exposure Owen, this stuff is just great. It's clear you've a wealth of musical talent and present yourself really well. I can only picture Liam laughing his arse off at this in depth analysis though, analysis he almost certainly never put into producing it. Maestro though he is, it likely all came from his gut. It was great hearing your thoughts on it though, an interesting perspective.
ua-cam.com/video/tN9Nic5k09Q/v-deo.html late 92 this one... Gav Mills/DJ Face .... this tune was such ahead of its time too and so was Mills as he would move on to make big house tunes and then Garage, this tune to me has the essence of ibiza in it, such a a tune, Ratpack used to cain this one
OI OI I'm standing in the corner searching for my rizla ......... That was a masive masive tarck in the club i went to in Leeds The Gallery back in the early 90's they cained it !
Awesome content man, Keep it up! Indeed, the experience is an album that every producer should take notes, I love what Liam started in the first album and consolidate on music for jilted generation
The Experience is the best electronic album to ever be released. I'd love to hear Liam dive into this mind set again. The early 90's were something special.
A tie with jilted generation
Mate this is the best use of youtube i've seen for a LONG time, keep going!
Love the log Altern8 , Mr Archer Legend !
Liam is a classically trained pianist and understands music theory. Good video!
Prodigy fan boy here: Liam Howlett’s production style and disregard for convention are both fascinating to hear the more I learn about music theory. I would never attempt to wholesale copy his style even if I had the skills, though. Awesome content, Owen!
Howlett was a decade ahead of everyone in terms of production alone
Immediately went and listened to Experience. What a beautiful video and really good teaching to really understand and enjoy everything about Prodigy, Experience and music of the time
Anybody who knows music/production theory and don't say that Liam Howlett is a fucking genius should be in a fucking jail. His production is a masterpiece, every fucking time. Catchy rhythms, pauses, neat sample use, dissonance use, classic compositional work, breakdowns, drum programming, mixing. This guy should be studied by every popular music producer.
The Prodigy experience was a masterpiece! 👍❤️😎
What a brilliant analysis from you and very well and clearly described.
As an old skool raver from back in the late 80's and thought out the early 90's I always used to analyze the music I raved to rather than just dance off my head.. The prodigy were my inspiration from day one starting with Charlie, and my favourite after that 'YOUR LOVE'.
THANK YOU FOR THIS BRILLIANT UA-cam VIDEO. 👍
Wasn't expecting a lot out of this, but it's excellent. So glad I stumbled on this.
dude your channel is so fantastic. This is like the best new content on youtube
This is fascinating, love the analysis.
That piano section half way through “your love” is blissful, major rushes when i hear it, i remember discovering it on a Rave classics cd when i was 17 and since then I’ve always loved the track. I’ve always tried to convert the melodies to midi and never succeeded you did an amazing job, you should share your work i’d most certainly pay for it ‘Death of the prodigy dancers’ is another one id love to hear the string line on that is great
nostalgia rush
The greatest tune ever. Broken down perfectly by Owen.
Gypsy Woman is another great example of the tension-and-release idea. I think the tone of the M1 also really helps that progression.
Loving these old skool tutorials. Nice one mate.
We need more please ....
Fucking lovin this so far man. Intense !!!.
Man what an analysis. Very intresting. Maybe this was something Howlett had his style to get away from the italo house style that pretty much saturated dance tracks all over .
Couldnt agree more with what you said about Experience, i grew up listening to that album and i personally think its one of the most important albums ever in terms of dance music.
Amen!
The expierence is 1 of my fav albums from them. Good memories
Blew my brains out at the time 🤯
It’s one of the best video about the prodigy that i’ve seen
Honest and quality technical approach Owen.. really enjoyed this video mate!!
I have been taking his chords for granted this WHOLE TIME 😳
Great insight into the oldskool era. Would love for the Propa Pianos download to be available again!
Fantastic content mate, hope you get back to uploading videos one day
I ammmmm
@@OwenTheGeek bro so happy i saw you comment just now, any chance to download the rave pack you had online back in the day? Cheers and respect!
Thanks... Erm... What rave pack is that? Where did you see that? USH? DOA? Hattrixx? CM? I'm sure I'll be able to dig it out if you can help me identify it
Ohhhhh thaaat. That was just a temporary/exclusive offer. No longer available.
WOW. Great analysis.
I had the pleasure of knowing someone who knew Liam when we were kids and I was once went round his house and heard what ended up hearing Your Love way before it was ever released (when Liam wasn't famous at all). The Piano at the time was similar but not what it ended up being. I was a raver back then and didn't understand anything about music apart from I liked what I was hearing.
This is a great video and I think we have very similar tastes in music. Well done on making what is ultimately a touch concept to grasp very easy to understand.
Both Far Out and Your Love were made in Essex :D
Liam was B-boy DJ first with his first band ther's a mix cd some were on here check it out !
This is fantastic stuff mate, you also totally nailed the rewound piano
Fantastic as always! Big up
Wow, the best music channel what I have seen from years. Keep em coming man, fantastic stuff!
Let's be honest... The Prodigy are the true game changers, all of those modern day hybrids and genre mashups weren't be the same without the Liam H. and his crew taking 3 different worlds of Rave/Electronica, Rock/Metal/Punk and Rap/Hip-Hop and simply show them, that in fact they are about the same thing B)
Learning how to play this is my latest life goal
Fantastic breakdown !
Glad you enjoyed it
Your love the remix is my favorite tune ever. 🎵❤
you have any idea how charly hoover was made. It definetly have it own color that just the patch doesn't cut there is something more to it.
Its a patch on the keybord he used in the settings but just forgot what its called off the top of my head !
@@OGGalleryCrew92 I know now it's from Mentasm
if i recall that correctly the slammer piano was used due to the software usage a amiga 500 with protracker a limited amount of ram about 512 kb chipram to hold samples and using this one piano sample wich came from one of the early sample disks for amiga tracker they were numbered like st-01 st-02 and in the first 5 of them somewhere aound that a piano was introduced which should be the piano sample in the slammer .... im not 100% sure i would have to check the bit by bit comparison to be really sure but it rang in my head imidatly .. i donno if liam ever used a amiga tracker back in the days . as for the slammer you can imagine the drum loop was of course part of the first st disks as well and the backwards playing was one simple command in fast tracker which just used up a few bits to play the sample backwards without needing more ram for a aditional sample. im wondering if he whole track was build in the tracker in any case i sometimes wished i could go back in time and watch them do their stuff oh .. ok never mind while im writing this comment a mate just told me that fast tracker wasnt around at that time the song came earlyer than the software itself haha ok i thought it still worth leaving my whole comment just to show how easy it is to foor yourself :) im still wondering tho how they did it then hehe
soundtracker came 1992 ... that might be the one ... just a possibly thought dont know when the first st-01 discs appeared tho
now im totaly confused i just checked protracker was around 1990 so it was actualy in existence early enough .... i give up :D krome and time please let us know .. thanks in advance :)
Interesting theory, but DJ Krome & Mr Time had an Ensoniq SQ-80 keyboard, where that piano sound is from (plus some others you'd recognise), and The Slammer was made with an Akai sampler and Atari, not a tracker.
Wicked stuff mate
Experience was one of the first CD albums I ever bought when I was 12 back in 1993 and it turned me on to hardcore and jungle. It blew my tiny little mind and still does to this day.
One of the most in informative and interesting videos ive seen on youtube, could you do a series on Prodigy's Liam Howlett's production techniques including sampling, melody, drum processing and chords like?
Great video man. I can't remotely play the piano and have a very very basic understanding of chords and key (enough to get by in D&B production), but you really explained this well in a way I can mostly comprehend.
love listening to you
I'm definitely not a music expert, and I'm not even a musician (I just play some acoustic guitar trying to translate some tunes by ear just for fun when no one can hear me :D), but your video really *impressed* me a lot: you really visualized one of the best tunes I have ever heard, and now I can finally see it. I mean the most beautiful (it is!) part of Fire [Sunrise Version] at 5:46. Okay, I'm just too sentimental about it because of my 90s memories when I was a teen ("a rizla a rizla" :D), but trying to pick such a tune by ear is definitely out of my "ear skills", because I just knew/could realize it does not fit regular chords I'm used to play my guitar. Your video is sort of a unique video, you know, no one have yet put a Fire [Sunrise Version] cover for a decade, there are no any "tutorials" for the tune, and now I'm just super-happy I watched it closely, and I won the "sunrise" prize. That's fantastic, thank you! :)
Thank you, I think that part in Fire is one of the highlights of The Experience
Brilliant!
Liam Howlett is a genius. Period.
Love it! Experience is pretty much my favourite album of all time, for various reasons! Good to see it get recognition! I’m clearly a fanboy lol
I rinsed out that cassette probably more than any other
Owen Palmer hahaha, me too!
Thanks and 100% right Liam is super talented, hugely under-rated. Personal thanks for your insights into the chords, tension and such. Being a raver all those years ago I had no idea but its great to learn now I’m trying to create 🙃🙂🤩
only just found you but great videos mate. really well done and explained
Amazing video, man! I may be misremembering but I'm pretty sure Liam's Mum made him go to piano lessons as a kid, something he hated at the time but later said he appreciated. It would make sense that he was ahead of others in using progressions or keys that initially feel wrong somehow but suddenly give you that tingle down your spin when resolved properly. Even if you go right back to before The Prodigy to something like Listen To The Basstone that he wrote while in Cut 2 Kill you can hear it although they released stuff without his agreement so he might not have even considered that a final track (I don't think Liam really cared tbh, at that point he knew they needed him a hell of a lot more than he neeed them). Paul Hartnoll is another artist who is very good at it, I swear he is somehow able to do it across entire tracks without the listener even realising too, like some kind of musical magician using misdirection before the big reveal :-)
Brilliant
Wow you are a very clever person
You need to keep making videos like these
Great video! Thanks a lot Owen!
Oh .... I see you've taken Propa Piano's down. Is there a way to still get it?
I'm subscribing to you your sick mate. Love The Prodigy's first 2 albums and even The Music For Jilted Generation was a masterpiece album way before its time. Liam Howlett is actually a grade 12 pianist so yes he is a musical genius.
Yes YES Ohh yes seriously good man!
Big respect for this! Do you still have those patches available anywhere? :-)
I remember being on Rave party and seeing The Prodigy coming out to play Everybody is in the place
I wish Liam would revive this sound and go back to the clubs. He’s made his money. Time to come back home to the underground.
Never gonna happen. We have to respect each artist's right to move on and change directions.
@@OwenTheGeek yep. Never gonna happen. He’s lost the plot and is a shit producer. He has no idea how to make good music now.
I've been getting slagged off for years for using that pain/pleasure principal and been told it's not the 'correct' way to make music.
One of my early beats (Hip-Hop) was a crazy discordant piano with a ridiculously basses up kick drum. I did it just to see how it would sound and it sounded pretty good.
But yea, whenever I hear those type of piano sounds, I immediately go back to the Happy Hardcore days.
Remember buying wind it up (rewound) on 12" when it came out .... Fuck I feel old ?
amazing
agree 100%
Great video👍
liam is classically Trained he did talk about writing sound tracks for movies back in the 90s
but nothing ever came of that
excellent + insightful
Yes Yes Yall ....
Classic tarck i can remember first time i heard that on white lable in 92 it took my head clean off and sonz of loop da loop 2 classic tunez, Bizarre in and N Joi were also good tune makes Bizarre inc made some good piano lines too, Would you do a video on Bizarre in on Playing with knives another piano synth classic i would say,
Can you still get the samples above as i'm an old raver / DJ from 88-92 and just got into trying to make music with ableton and reason and som out board gear romblers ect Cheers !
Loving the videos top draw prespect Peace !
Oke this is amazing
It’s a good video. He did sample pianos occasionally. The trick.
C'mon! The Trick is a totally different era, a totally different kind of piano. That's not what I meant! :p
Fucking quality m8, just listening to some old proj records and fancied listening to the pure piano and this video delivered.
is there another way i can get the prodigy’s piano patch?
Sorry, it was a limited edition offer.
Trying to resample my own chord to make fire. Just can get it right, im sure its Fmajor 7, can you share the chord please? Just sounds a bit off
Just a plain old F-A-C Fmaj will do it, no 7ths.
@@OwenTheGeek thanks mate, wanna remix it this today after work, gonna hunt for the samples
Hello mate, how do I get a similar piano sound in logic? Is there a decent preset amongst the standard plug ins?
Propa Pianos is temporarily available again: www.owenthegeek.com/pianos - works in Logic!
Does anyone know why this guy stopped making YT videos? They're all so good
I'll do a video to address this since so many have asked ...
@@OwenTheGeek it's none of my business why, so please don't feel pressured to explain! Just very very glad it seems like you're coming back 🥹
Thanks! Nah, I'm not like that, it's cool. No pressure, I'd just like to set the record straight and set expectations for the future.
You need more exposure Owen, this stuff is just great. It's clear you've a wealth of musical talent and present yourself really well. I can only picture Liam laughing his arse off at this in depth analysis though, analysis he almost certainly never put into producing it. Maestro though he is, it likely all came from his gut. It was great hearing your thoughts on it though, an interesting perspective.
ua-cam.com/video/tN9Nic5k09Q/v-deo.html late 92 this one... Gav Mills/DJ Face .... this tune was such ahead of its time too and so was Mills as he would move on to make big house tunes and then Garage, this tune to me has the essence of ibiza in it, such a a tune, Ratpack used to cain this one
OI OI I'm standing in the corner searching for my rizla .........
That was a masive masive tarck in the club i went to in Leeds The Gallery back in the early 90's they cained it !
Great videos.
thank you
Liam was trained as a classic piano man
I don't think I've ever thumbed up a video without even watching it before.
The Prodigy, the first people to create jungle
Charley was the first everybody else copied after 🙌😎
You reckon??? 🤔 I dunnnnnnno about that
nice video
Awesome content man, Keep it up!
Indeed, the experience is an album that every producer should take notes, I love what Liam started in the first album and consolidate on music for jilted generation
Thanks!
We waiting for more The Prodigy :)
R I P KEITH !
Isn't Liam a classically trained pianist? He is a prodigy and leader of pure expertise
Where is the pack?
No longer available, it was only a temporary offer.
God damn your videos are so watchable Owen.
Another great video, proper interesting
Clever sod
Can we still book studio time with you?
Gutted I missed the piano pack.
Propa Pianos is temporarily available again: www.owenthegeek.com/pianos
He played it in manualy and Speed it up ;)
Liam H is a super genius btw, :P lol call me a Prodigy fan boi XD
This sounds like the exact same piano
that's the idea
God damn your videos are so watchable Owen.