I had a cat I very much loved. He used to go out, until he got hit by a car and I had to have him put to sleep. My cats are now 100% indoor, healthy, happy, and short of having a "catio", they will never go outside again.
I think for some people it takes having that happen to realise how much it hurts, I think a lot of cat owners don't ever expect it to happen to them even in the most quiet roads. I know some people that are on their 4th cat in the same number of years and its just wild to me willingly going through that heartbreak
I had a friend that had like a lot of animals and she once bragged to me that she had 6 cats but they all ended up dying shortly in some or another accident outside, safe to say thats not my friend anymore 😭😭
I'm not how much this happens in other places, but in Brazil (specially in the countryside) often neighbors that don't like cats around will poison your cat if he goes outside. Having your cats indoor literally saves their lives in this situation.
@@shining_valoka It happens from time to time in the UK it's awful, cats on the area I live have come home poisoned, shaved, burnt, with BB bullets in them, and as awful as it is that theres people out there sick enough to do it the responsibility 100% lies on the owners to keep them safe from such things
@@Emiologyreminds me of the Story with the guy basically feeding Shelter Cats to Coyotes. Go to shelter, get cat so kid stops crying, get home, let the Cat outside. Cat gets eaten by Coyote. *surprised Pikachu Face* Rinse and Repeat.
Often the people that assume indoor cats will be bored are the ones that put food down for their outdoor cats and that’s as far as the effort goes 🙈 there’s some great cat toys out there now
Cats are so much safer inside, and so is wildlife! Cats are very hard on wildlife. Why, if pet dogs are required to be leashed or contained, shouldn’t cats?
100%. Cats are so horrible for the local ecosystem. as cute as they are, it still kinda pisses me off every time I see a cat walking around in my neighborhood. It’s not their fault though obviously
I used to think keeping my rabbits outside was abuse because I watched a certain UA-camr for all my rabbit care, but when it got too hot at the start of the summer I moved them to a “summer house” outside (kinda like a shed but bigger) and they’ve been much happier, they can get plenty of air flow and no predators can even see into it. I was against it at first but every room they have lived in indoors they have completely destroyed any carpets and peed on the walls which they don’t do in their shed. I really appreciate your videos because I’m able to educate the people around me and give my pets the most enriching life :)
Moving them outside because it's hot was NOT a correct track, not unless you have a way to keep them cool. Inside a house tends to be cooler then putting them outside.
So glad to hear a voice of reason when it comes to outside rabbits. It's so annoying when people (especially Americans) scream abuse at keeping rabbits outside, when it's perfectly fine to do so here. I follow German rabbit owners with gorgeous enclosures that are larger than my own house! People just don't (want to) understand that with enough awareness and planning, it's perfectly possible to provide a safe and enriching environment for them. Also, I think it's funny that the people who yell the loudest about keeping rabbits outside being abuse, are the same people who keep single rabbits and think they can replace their social need.... the sheer dissonance 😂
I know exactly who you mean and I can't stand it. Complaining about rabbits who are safely having their needs met above and beyond in amazing setups, while theirs is stressed out unnecessarily with no attempt to meet the social needs is wildly out of touch
@baltobud8 I get what you are saying, but I think the concern is more than just the enclosure/housing setup. I agree, I’ve seen some amazing outdoor setups in the UK online, but the additional concern to outdoor housing is the greater risk of being attacked by a predator (maybe that’s less of a problem in other countries?) and how often the rabbits are less integrated into the families so the subtle behavioral changes that could indicate illness or injury can be overlooked until it’s too late. I am not one of those people who will argue one way is better than the other as I fully believe each situation is unique and should be addressed individually. But as someone who has spoken to many of people (I’m from the eastern side of the US) who have had their rabbits killed by predators getting into their enclosures or dying from illness from infections caused by various outdoor factors (such as botflies burrowing in their skin), I personally feel much safer having my pair free roam my house. Again, no hate towards your comment, just offering a little more context because if there’s one thing I’ve learned from some very vocal people is their delivery of whatever the intended message is lost because of how they approached the topic. Nothing is ever “one size fits all” in my opinion. 😅😊
@@ashleyjones1918 Yes, in the US I agree that keeping rabbits outside is proooobably a bad idea. It is indeed a case by case basis. I live in a very urban area, no predators aside from outdoor cats, so it was easy for me to proof my run against them. And the not paying enough attention is also an issue, but that's on the owner. I personally check on them every hour and sleep with an open window right above the enclosure. So definitely agree it's a case-by-case basis! And that outside rabbits DO require way more "effort" than inside ones
That's because here in Germany the climate is well suited to rabbits. Keeping rabbits outside in Texas would absolutely be abuse, it's way too hot. Rabbits are native here and adapted to our temperatures Same reason why outdoor cats are way less bad in Europe than on other continents, they are an established part of the ecosystem for a long long time and present no actual risk of ecological collapse in Germany for example. In countries like Australia, NZ or even the US cats are invasive species that DO pose a risk to local ecological systems. Different areas have different conditions
its so exciting to see your videos pop up (especially if you just posted them). idk if you remember and you probably dont but I commented earlier about my mom wanting just pet store rats, well now I went to a breeder and showed my mom how much better they treat the rats there and now shes absolutely on my side. getting rats in about 3 weeks, sooo excited!!
I had a pet rat that couldn't stay with other rats but loved humans and would visit everyone in the house I never had to keep the top on her cage she would come when I clicked. Would ride on my shoulder everywhere except jobs. Lol even had a nest in one of my drawers. She loved everyone in the house and would play with toys and bring them to u to play with she was an example of a rat that didn't need to be put down. She found a happy place with us not everyone will have that same experience though.
I agree with your opinions on pretty much every topic discussed in this video. I especially agree with "behavioral euthanasia" being necessary in some extreme cases, but *not* if they haven't tried everything available to them to correct the behavior issue(s). Too many animals, especially dogs, are put to sleep because of a behavior that could possibly be corrected with the right technique, environment and/or person. I find it very upsetting when an animal isn't given a proper chance of overcoming an undesirable/dangerous habit/behavior (such as food aggression or animal aggression), especially if they're in a shelter/rescue environment as that's a highly stressful place to be even for a calm, easy-going animal. I also think that many animals who reside in cages and tanks deserve more enrichment than most people give them, plus a larger living space than most "minimum" size parameters call for. I understand that many people operate on a budget/smaller income and can find it hard to give animals the living space that they require to truly thrive and not just survive, but if the proper research is done *before* the animal is adopted/purchased/acquired, this shouldn't be as big of an issue as it often is. I believe if people can spend hours scrolling through social media posts and watching videos, they should be more than able to do at least *basic* research such as enclosure size for an *adult* as many animals grow rather quickly, food requirements, heat/lighting, substrate/bedding, humidity parameters, etc. I honestly don't understand how people can go out and buy/adopt an animal like a reptile or exotic animal without knowing what they require for proper care at the very least. I've seen so many posts in FB groups and other places saying something like "Just got this snake and I need to know what I should get for it" and there's a picture of a ball python in a 10 gallon tank with a red light, heat rock, reptile carpet, half log "hide" and every side of the tank is uncovered. 🤦🏻♀️🤬 Just do your research BEFORE you get the animal! I'm not saying you should be an "expert" before you get an animal, but knowing basically *nothing* is unacceptable in my opinion.
I'd love to own a working dog but it is because I enjoy the training aspect and I see that as the absolute best part about dogs in general, getting to train and comunicate with my pet is what I love about any pet. I get surprised every time I hear someone not thinking that is the most fun part, guess that's my unpopular opinion; "Training is the best way to bond + spend time with a dog"
I have two cats and the one is absolutely petrified of being outside of the house! Even just being out in the indoor hallway outside of our apartment was too much for her. The most she ever went outside willingly was out on our patio and even then she’d barely be outside the door. My other cat is a little more adventurous than the aforementioned one is, but she doesn’t have much interest in the outside world apart from sun bathing on the patio and watching the birds lol
I love all your videos, you inspired me to get little ratties, i now have two boys named frog and toad and they are so little, what kind of high protein treats would you recommend for my baby's?
Cats outdoors; cars, coyotes, hawks, other cats. All of my cats have been 100% inside and have lived to over 15 years each. (Morris 16, Miss Kitty 17, Raven 15.5, and Veruca 15.75)
I definitely agree that the minimum rat cage size should be bigger, at least 100cmx50cm in floorspace. In my country a lot of people will still keep them in cages that are less than 80cmx50cm, so that sucks. But that's a issue with all the small pets here (and everywhere), people think that "love" is enough and pets don't have need for space and enrichment. Also another "fun" argument is that, "there are homeless people, so how dare you care about the wellbeing of my pet". 😂
i had a rat who just didn’t get along with any other rats no matter what i did, so i kept him alone underneath my mischief of other rats, and as much as i ADORED him, i now know what i did was not in his best interest and i probably should have had him pts :( i know it’s something i’ve learned from but i still feel so guilty
I've lost two cats to being hit by cars, 1 who was 6 yrs and one was 1 yr. I want to adopt again in the future but want them to be indoor if I can, I can't take that loss again. Regarding Rescues doing more harm than good - I was rejected from adopting from a rescue for very petty reasons (It's complicted but everyone I have told the story to agreed) leaving me heartbroken and ended up getting a puppy who I adore 💗 Adoption is pushed so hard that it makes it look so easy when it just isn't.
This is why I adopt from county shelters and not rescues or huge animal organizations (Villalobos Rescue Center/ASPCA). They are too selective with who they adopt out to but then ask for donations all the time bc they are overrun with animals.
I really enjoy your rat videos. I need to make a free roam area on a tight budget and very limited space i have a 18 by 2 guinea pig cage on a stand . Im trying to think outside of the box of a cat tree. I just dont have the room from a large vertical stand. Im trying to think of safe shelving. Do you have any safe suggestions?
Yes! the idea of some rescues doing more harm than good. I keep rescue hens - not as a rescue - and am often offered hens that need homes and say no, because it's not good for the animals I already have. The rats being put to sleep when they can't/ won't be social, I agree with that too.
Thank you for highlighting working dogs and their suitability as pets following the border collie opinion. I’ve had working cocker spaniels for years, my two both work on a shoot doing what they were bred to do, however I also know many that do agility and obedience. My two first and foremost are family pets, and I always tell people considering them that you won’t find a better pet dog PROVIDING you can stimulate the part of their brain that wants a job to do. So many people buy ‘trending’ dogs without factoring in the needs of the breed......
I'm vegan and I liked what you said about all animals deserving to lived. I'm not judging anyone,it's a personal choice I made. That was a great video. I love your honesty!😊❤👏🏻
You probably do more to sway people towards being vegan by being respectful than judging! People who judge and leave comments don't seem to understand that they're pushing people more towards believing the "crazy vegan" stereotype, and actually push people away from wanting to learn more about being vegan, in turn harming more animal than they're helping. Being respectful, talking and educating people goes a lot farther in terms of convincing people to hear you out or give it a try, which in turn helps more animals!😊 I just assume people who do these things are vegans just to say they are/to seem like good people, because if they really cared about the animals, they'd look into better ways of persuading people than hate and judgement.
@@youreinvalid8493 Absolutely, I completely agree that approaching people with kindness and education is more effective than passing judgment. When engaging in outreach about veganism, I strive to be respectful and understanding, recognizing that everyone is on their own journey of awareness. However, when individuals are fully aware of the harm they are causing and choose to continue, it seems reasonable to express judgment. I believe this is a natural response, much like one might express judgment towards those who commit heinous acts to other humans. It's about holding individuals accountable for their actions. The idea that people advocating against animal abuse do so to feel superior lacks thoughtful consideration. The inclination to perceive vegans this stems from individuals grappling with their own cognitive dissonance. It's uncomfortable for many to confront the dissonance between professing a dislike for animal abuse while actively supporting it. Instead of facing this internal conflict, some individuals project it onto those who align their actions with their ethical beliefs and genuinely practice what they preach. Your comment is a perfect example of this.
I agree with two. The its the owner not the breed is mostly true but when getting a dog you do very much need to consider what the dog originally is bred for and what job (even just a pet) they are best for or best for your life style. Then in that case someone ill informed or ignorant about the breed messed up. Also the training young dogs. I started training with my service dog at age 5months, when had become potty trained. However it mainly was to get him out. See things, experience the world. He did have an in training vest on but its cause I wanted people to treat him already as a service dog not a cute puppy you can run up to or distract. Expectations were lower for my you g dog, since he still was doing obedience, but I wanted to mix obedience with distinctions after a while of training. I feel its more unfair to train them and never expose them to outside distractions or possible scary things, such as a loud bang in Home Depot, and working through it.
Definitely! I think for some dogs that have a good foundation / genetics and socialisation period but I know with River if I didn’t continually take her to places that she may encounter in the future she would easily become overwhelmed having to do that at a year old having never been inside of a shop. I think task training should always be fun regardless of the age but because she’s such a high energy breed she really enjoys learning new things and picks them up quickly so I don’t worry too much that it’ll be too soon for her 😊
I think it's okay to label an >8 week old puppy as an assistance dog in training if you are socializing them to things they will experience in their career, but are unlikely to encounter a pet friendly equivilant during the crucial socialization period. For instance, taking a future seeing eye dog to a football game or concert. I completely agree that they should not be focusing on actual assistance training at this age though.
The problem in the UK isn't so much the breeders but the import of puppies from puppy mills. Now those people don't care where the puppies go, it's just about money
Where I used to live the house behind imported puppies from Ireland with no mothers and kept them in sheds, all different breeds from pomeranians to boxers, and the noise was awful. We reported them constantly to the RSPCA, noise complaints etc and nothing was ever done 🥲
i'm American so it may be different in the UK but here there's definitely people here who will keep "aggressive breeds" on purpose bc they think they're cool or tough and won't train them bc it's funny to them when they lunge at other animals. The same type of person who won't get their dogs fixed bc it's "emasculating"
I think pets should be licensed like cars. People should have to take a test or have a guardian who took the test. If you want to breed there should be a license on top.
We used to have licenses! I recon a license to breed and own any animal will drastically reduce annual animal cruelty cases, alongside a public access test when dogs turn 12 months old to ensure they’re safe to be in public. Governments can use vets as a first line to ensure all owners have licenses, by requiring this information upon registration + on their microchip. The other ways in which it’s enforced would be more difficult, but definitely require severe punishments - like a ban from owning dogs if you’re found to be backyard breeding them. The only concern for me would be the governments interest in profit, which may make affording a license extremely difficult for many existing dog owners unless welfare organisations are able to lobby a deal that ensures it’s a fair price. Ultimately, a ban on any breed of dog will only end up widening, as irresponsible owners will move onto the next breed available which will eventually also be deemed as dangerous and banned, so trying to solve the problem instead of using scapegoats is vital in offering a permanent solution to reducing dog attacks and improving overall animal welfare
This may just be my opinion, but I don't understand how you can say that some people don't have the mental strength to realize pigs and dogs are the same and as you said " all deserve to live", whilst also saying an angry rat who doesn't like other rats should be put down against their will.
I’m not sure what’s difficult to understand? Mass killing healthy animals for our own benefit and consumption vs humanely euthanising an animal with a poor quality of life and a medical issue for its own benefit are different 😊
@@Emiology I just don't think its ok to put down an animal who physically is alive and healthy because you assume they don't have a quality of f life due to not liking other rats. I don't like many other people but I still want to continue living, and I couldn't imagine people making that call for me just because I didn't like other people. There are tons of rats who are terrified of have unknown trauma which is why they don't like or trust other rats. I've seen someone's dog scared and aggressive over other dogs, but when they got a cat he loved them. Or when someone had a scared cat, but when they got a bunny he perked up and she was his favorite. I just can't fathom putting down a rat because " no matter how hard you try they don't get along with other rats". Like you've said in the past, why not just re-home them if you don't think you can keep them with how they are. They only live about 2 years anyway.
Thank you for speaking out in favor of bigger enclosures. The minimum requirements for... any animal, really... Are simply disturbing. "But they're scared of open space!" So what! Then fill the space with hiding spots and clutter to make them feel safe instead of making the poor animal/s live inside a freaking shoe box. It's not rocket science, goddammit.
The thing with pigs Vs dogs is that pigs are cattle and were domesticated to be eaten. Correct me if I’m wrong but dogs historically haven’t been raised for eating?? Im also not saying it’s wrong to be vegetarian/vegan, I just look at like that
Do you think it's acceptable to dog fight if the dogs were bred and raised for that? Impregnating an animal for a specific purpose has nothing to do with the morality of that purpose, and it boggles my mind that people think it's ok to excuse murder because of it.
@@jermajayjay1092 I mean that’s the history of the American pit bull terrier and I’m pretty sure English bull terries staffies etc…luckily dog fighting is illegal. Cattle has been bred and used for food for a millennium. Bred for that specific purpose. Meat that’s ethically raised and sourced isn’t a bad thing. Not to mention a lot of vegan foods have human slave labor to harvest them, or even conventional veggies can be shady with picking. Honestly no food is without some abuse at times that’s why as a consumer you need to be mindful.
Some people do keep rats and mice on purpose built sheds but they have to be rodent proof to stop wild rodents coming in and passing things like leptospirosis onto them. Rabbits can be vaccinated against things that wild rabbits can spread but smaller rodents there isn’t vaccines for. Well sheltered rabbits do okay in U.K. temperatures but smaller rodents like mice can’t regulate their body temperature so don’t do as well in outdoor conditions 😊
My cat is 19 years old and has only been outside for vet visits and transportation. 19 years. Let your cat outside and you shorten their lifespans. Its irresponsible.
Past rabbit owner here. I really have to disagree about rabbits being outside. They will always be safer inside, with company, and without a risk of having a heart attack by getting scared by even a random, loud noise. I don't like this misconception that it's fine to keep them outside, because it is not fine.
I’d disagree that inside always differs so much from outside, here our houses are just as hot sometimes hotter than the outside, many people have predators inside the home that could pose a risk to the rabbits (I know someone who’s dog was fine for years and one day broke into their rabbit room and killed all their rabbits) and lots of households are loud with sudden unexpected noises too. It’s not a misconception that it’s fine to keep them outside it’s just a personal and cultural difference 😊 When done properly a secure large shed setup is really no different to being ‘inside’ after all 😊
If the bunny wasn't alone, I'd be inclined to agree with you :) Sadly usually when I hear about people keeping their rabbits outside, it's not in all those ideal conditions :(
Hey Emi I remember when you did that reacting to its just jay jay and smelly belly something well I was looking at the comment section and OMG pls check it out. So many supportive rat owners busting her for bad rat care including myself pls do check it out would live to hear if you do !
One of my cats is half feral and he needs supervision outside so he doesn’t go crazy and catch any birds. Supervised time in the garden/on a harness is how I do it 😊
Bunnies should never be outside. Its bad for their health.. theyre just vegan cats with the same energy levels & potty training abilities. (They potty train just as easily.) They belong indoors free roaming with the family. Watch Lennon the bunny videos for more information. 🐰 her bunny is 100% free roamed.
I’ll pass 😅 Rabbits are also social animals that should live in pairs / groups, it’s also bad for their health to be stressed and taken outside their environment for ‘play dates’ and paraded around where dogs can chase them etc which has occurred on a few occasions in videos Safe access outdoors isn’t necessarily bad for their health it can be incredibly enriching for them to express natural behaviours they can’t always achieve indoors 😊 I do agree that it is much nicer to have them indoors as part of the family where possible and for some rabbits they’ll really thrive with that, and it does mean you’re able to keep a closer eye on them and their health
I love your channel and all the rat information you have given me but I do strongly disagree with the point, it's a bit hypocritical to eat pigs but not dogs. People tamed and bred dogs to be man's best friend, to not be so independent and to heavily rely on us. we bred them to help us with hunting, searching, herding and so much more (and that doesn't include eating them lol). that's why we have so many breeds such as the blood hound and dachshund. As for farm animals such as pigs and cows they were bred to be livestock I'm not saying they can't be your friend it's just a fact and I do believe all livestock animals deserve good lives and to be killed in the most humane way possible. It's cruel to breed an animal to be your best friend and to be so heavily dependent on you just to abuse them to death and eat them. I really could go on but I'll leave it at that if you see this please don't disregard what I said.
I think the original comment also links into the ties that in some cultures dogs aren’t as highly viewed as pets and some dogs are bred for food purposes only, and for those that carry out that practice it’s viewed as okay. Pigs and dogs are both sentient and have similar levels of intelligent and emotional capacity to understand what’s about to happen to them when they’re going through the process of being turned into food. I just think regardless of the benefit the animal itself brings us whether that’s a job, companionship like dogs or a livestock animal that doesn’t, they equally deserve to not suffer any distress or pain before they die, which unfortunately is still the case in a lot of fast paced food industries.
Why on earth do you think that it's ok to kill someone because you impregnated their mother for that purpose? Do you also think it's acceptable to force dogs to rip each other to shreds because we bred them for that? Would it become okay to eat dogs if you impregnated their mother specifically to kill her babies?
Some dogs definitely need to be put down for behavioural issues, particularly larger aggressive breeds, as evidenced by the serious dog attacks regularly reported on the news. Dogs are a pet that can kill people, so those with any dangerous behaviours need to be kindly PTS
There’s a dog in our town, happens to be an American bully, last month it escaped its house and ripped a little dog out of a child’s hands and killed it in front of her. It’s not the first time someone’s had issues with this owner and his dog, yet he’s been allowed to keep it and it’s still walking around 😩
@@Emiology its terrifying isn't it. I watched a couple of videos of those dogs attacking grown men and nothing stops them. The people who bred them so carelessly (small gene pool, aggressive genetics) are the real villains.
The 'working dogs' thing is bizarre: many dog breeds were bred for working, why were border collies singled out? Many dog breeds 'work' was also fairly unsavoury... what, you should only exercise dogs by allowing them to course hares? Or fight other dogs? What a psychotic thing to type out. Try not to engage with this clearly very disturbed content. I mean: wherever you found this opinion, not your content, lol.
I had a male mouse that was the only one fighting every other male mouse en bit me more than ones very hard and draw blood, i gave him to my cat, she ended the problem with one bite. Clean fast and no suffering.
I had a cat I very much loved. He used to go out, until he got hit by a car and I had to have him put to sleep. My cats are now 100% indoor, healthy, happy, and short of having a "catio", they will never go outside again.
I think for some people it takes having that happen to realise how much it hurts, I think a lot of cat owners don't ever expect it to happen to them even in the most quiet roads. I know some people that are on their 4th cat in the same number of years and its just wild to me willingly going through that heartbreak
I had a friend that had like a lot of animals and she once bragged to me that she had 6 cats but they all ended up dying shortly in some or another accident outside, safe to say thats not my friend anymore 😭😭
I'm not how much this happens in other places, but in Brazil (specially in the countryside) often neighbors that don't like cats around will poison your cat if he goes outside. Having your cats indoor literally saves their lives in this situation.
@@shining_valoka It happens from time to time in the UK it's awful, cats on the area I live have come home poisoned, shaved, burnt, with BB bullets in them, and as awful as it is that theres people out there sick enough to do it the responsibility 100% lies on the owners to keep them safe from such things
@@Emiologyreminds me of the Story with the guy basically feeding Shelter Cats to Coyotes. Go to shelter, get cat so kid stops crying, get home, let the Cat outside. Cat gets eaten by Coyote. *surprised Pikachu Face* Rinse and Repeat.
if people's cats are bored inside i think it has more to do with lack of enrichment than cats just "loving the outdoors"
Often the people that assume indoor cats will be bored are the ones that put food down for their outdoor cats and that’s as far as the effort goes 🙈 there’s some great cat toys out there now
Cats are so much safer inside, and so is wildlife! Cats are very hard on wildlife. Why, if pet dogs are required to be leashed or contained, shouldn’t cats?
We lost 4 cats due to being let outside. Our cat isn't allowed outside now.
100%. Cats are so horrible for the local ecosystem. as cute as they are, it still kinda pisses me off every time I see a cat walking around in my neighborhood. It’s not their fault though obviously
I have two cats and they stay indoors except when they are in my fenced yard with me.
@@SghgyvOH yeah so bad 😣
@@Sghgyvcats and dogs are both bad for the ecosystem
I used to think keeping my rabbits outside was abuse because I watched a certain UA-camr for all my rabbit care, but when it got too hot at the start of the summer I moved them to a “summer house” outside (kinda like a shed but bigger) and they’ve been much happier, they can get plenty of air flow and no predators can even see into it. I was against it at first but every room they have lived in indoors they have completely destroyed any carpets and peed on the walls which they don’t do in their shed. I really appreciate your videos because I’m able to educate the people around me and give my pets the most enriching life :)
Moving them outside because it's hot was NOT a correct track, not unless you have a way to keep them cool. Inside a house tends to be cooler then putting them outside.
So glad to hear a voice of reason when it comes to outside rabbits. It's so annoying when people (especially Americans) scream abuse at keeping rabbits outside, when it's perfectly fine to do so here. I follow German rabbit owners with gorgeous enclosures that are larger than my own house! People just don't (want to) understand that with enough awareness and planning, it's perfectly possible to provide a safe and enriching environment for them.
Also, I think it's funny that the people who yell the loudest about keeping rabbits outside being abuse, are the same people who keep single rabbits and think they can replace their social need.... the sheer dissonance 😂
I know exactly who you mean and I can't stand it. Complaining about rabbits who are safely having their needs met above and beyond in amazing setups, while theirs is stressed out unnecessarily with no attempt to meet the social needs is wildly out of touch
@baltobud8 I get what you are saying, but I think the concern is more than just the enclosure/housing setup. I agree, I’ve seen some amazing outdoor setups in the UK online, but the additional concern to outdoor housing is the greater risk of being attacked by a predator (maybe that’s less of a problem in other countries?) and how often the rabbits are less integrated into the families so the subtle behavioral changes that could indicate illness or injury can be overlooked until it’s too late.
I am not one of those people who will argue one way is better than the other as I fully believe each situation is unique and should be addressed individually. But as someone who has spoken to many of people (I’m from the eastern side of the US) who have had their rabbits killed by predators getting into their enclosures or dying from illness from infections caused by various outdoor factors (such as botflies burrowing in their skin), I personally feel much safer having my pair free roam my house.
Again, no hate towards your comment, just offering a little more context because if there’s one thing I’ve learned from some very vocal people is their delivery of whatever the intended message is lost because of how they approached the topic. Nothing is ever “one size fits all” in my opinion. 😅😊
@@ashleyjones1918 Yes, in the US I agree that keeping rabbits outside is proooobably a bad idea. It is indeed a case by case basis. I live in a very urban area, no predators aside from outdoor cats, so it was easy for me to proof my run against them.
And the not paying enough attention is also an issue, but that's on the owner. I personally check on them every hour and sleep with an open window right above the enclosure.
So definitely agree it's a case-by-case basis! And that outside rabbits DO require way more "effort" than inside ones
That's because here in Germany the climate is well suited to rabbits. Keeping rabbits outside in Texas would absolutely be abuse, it's way too hot. Rabbits are native here and adapted to our temperatures
Same reason why outdoor cats are way less bad in Europe than on other continents, they are an established part of the ecosystem for a long long time and present no actual risk of ecological collapse in Germany for example. In countries like Australia, NZ or even the US cats are invasive species that DO pose a risk to local ecological systems.
Different areas have different conditions
its so exciting to see your videos pop up (especially if you just posted them). idk if you remember and you probably dont but I commented earlier about my mom wanting just pet store rats, well now I went to a breeder and showed my mom how much better they treat the rats there and now shes absolutely on my side. getting rats in about 3 weeks, sooo excited!!
Yay! I’m glad she came around 😊
I had a pet rat that couldn't stay with other rats but loved humans and would visit everyone in the house I never had to keep the top on her cage she would come when I clicked. Would ride on my shoulder everywhere except jobs. Lol even had a nest in one of my drawers. She loved everyone in the house and would play with toys and bring them to u to play with she was an example of a rat that didn't need to be put down. She found a happy place with us not everyone will have that same experience though.
Why wasn’t she able to stay with other rats?
I agree with your opinions on pretty much every topic discussed in this video. I especially agree with "behavioral euthanasia" being necessary in some extreme cases, but *not* if they haven't tried everything available to them to correct the behavior issue(s). Too many animals, especially dogs, are put to sleep because of a behavior that could possibly be corrected with the right technique, environment and/or person. I find it very upsetting when an animal isn't given a proper chance of overcoming an undesirable/dangerous habit/behavior (such as food aggression or animal aggression), especially if they're in a shelter/rescue environment as that's a highly stressful place to be even for a calm, easy-going animal.
I also think that many animals who reside in cages and tanks deserve more enrichment than most people give them, plus a larger living space than most "minimum" size parameters call for. I understand that many people operate on a budget/smaller income and can find it hard to give animals the living space that they require to truly thrive and not just survive, but if the proper research is done *before* the animal is adopted/purchased/acquired, this shouldn't be as big of an issue as it often is. I believe if people can spend hours scrolling through social media posts and watching videos, they should be more than able to do at least *basic* research such as enclosure size for an *adult* as many animals grow rather quickly, food requirements, heat/lighting, substrate/bedding, humidity parameters, etc. I honestly don't understand how people can go out and buy/adopt an animal like a reptile or exotic animal without knowing what they require for proper care at the very least. I've seen so many posts in FB groups and other places saying something like "Just got this snake and I need to know what I should get for it" and there's a picture of a ball python in a 10 gallon tank with a red light, heat rock, reptile carpet, half log "hide" and every side of the tank is uncovered. 🤦🏻♀️🤬 Just do your research BEFORE you get the animal! I'm not saying you should be an "expert" before you get an animal, but knowing basically *nothing* is unacceptable in my opinion.
I'd love to own a working dog but it is because I enjoy the training aspect and I see that as the absolute best part about dogs in general, getting to train and comunicate with my pet is what I love about any pet. I get surprised every time I hear someone not thinking that is the most fun part, guess that's my unpopular opinion; "Training is the best way to bond + spend time with a dog"
I have two cats and the one is absolutely petrified of being outside of the house! Even just being out in the indoor hallway outside of our apartment was too much for her. The most she ever went outside willingly was out on our patio and even then she’d barely be outside the door. My other cat is a little more adventurous than the aforementioned one is, but she doesn’t have much interest in the outside world apart from sun bathing on the patio and watching the birds lol
I love all your videos, you inspired me to get little ratties, i now have two boys named frog and toad and they are so little, what kind of high protein treats would you recommend for my baby's?
The things I tend to use are dog biscuits or wet food, mackerels, eggs 😊
@@Emiology i've been feeding them baby food and fish so far and they've been loving it
Cats outdoors; cars, coyotes, hawks, other cats. All of my cats have been 100% inside and have lived to over 15 years each. (Morris 16, Miss Kitty 17, Raven 15.5, and Veruca 15.75)
I definitely agree that the minimum rat cage size should be bigger, at least 100cmx50cm in floorspace. In my country a lot of people will still keep them in cages that are less than 80cmx50cm, so that sucks. But that's a issue with all the small pets here (and everywhere), people think that "love" is enough and pets don't have need for space and enrichment. Also another "fun" argument is that, "there are homeless people, so how dare you care about the wellbeing of my pet". 😂
i had a rat who just didn’t get along with any other rats no matter what i did, so i kept him alone underneath my mischief of other rats, and as much as i ADORED him, i now know what i did was not in his best interest and i probably should have had him pts :( i know it’s something i’ve learned from but i still feel so guilty
I've lost two cats to being hit by cars, 1 who was 6 yrs and one was 1 yr. I want to adopt again in the future but want them to be indoor if I can, I can't take that loss again.
Regarding Rescues doing more harm than good - I was rejected from adopting from a rescue for very petty reasons (It's complicted but everyone I have told the story to agreed) leaving me heartbroken and ended up getting a puppy who I adore 💗 Adoption is pushed so hard that it makes it look so easy when it just isn't.
This is why I adopt from county shelters and not rescues or huge animal organizations (Villalobos Rescue Center/ASPCA). They are too selective with who they adopt out to but then ask for donations all the time bc they are overrun with animals.
I'm getting pet rats soon and ur videos really help! Tysm! ❤
Emi could you please do a budget freindly seting up a rat cage. Pls. I love your setting up rat cages. Anyway Thankyou❤😮
I really enjoy your rat videos. I need to make a free roam area on a tight budget and very limited space i have a 18 by 2 guinea pig cage on a stand . Im trying to think outside of the box of a cat tree. I just dont have the room from a large vertical stand. Im trying to think of safe shelving. Do you have any safe suggestions?
Great video Emi. Where did you get your phone case? (Sorry if I've asked this before, my memory is shit 😁)
I think it was from AliExpress!
early🎉 love ur videos ! ❤ and ur rats are so cute !!
Yes! the idea of some rescues doing more harm than good. I keep rescue hens - not as a rescue - and am often offered hens that need homes and say no, because it's not good for the animals I already have. The rats being put to sleep when they can't/ won't be social, I agree with that too.
Thank you for highlighting working dogs and their suitability as pets following the border collie opinion. I’ve had working cocker spaniels for years, my two both work on a shoot doing what they were bred to do, however I also know many that do agility and obedience. My two first and foremost are family pets, and I always tell people considering them that you won’t find a better pet dog PROVIDING you can stimulate the part of their brain that wants a job to do. So many people buy ‘trending’ dogs without factoring in the needs of the breed......
Early! I love these videos!
I'm vegan and I liked what you said about all animals deserving to lived. I'm not judging anyone,it's a personal choice I made. That was a great video. I love your honesty!😊❤👏🏻
It's okay to judge as its not just a personal choice, there is a victim.
You probably do more to sway people towards being vegan by being respectful than judging! People who judge and leave comments don't seem to understand that they're pushing people more towards believing the "crazy vegan" stereotype, and actually push people away from wanting to learn more about being vegan, in turn harming more animal than they're helping.
Being respectful, talking and educating people goes a lot farther in terms of convincing people to hear you out or give it a try, which in turn helps more animals!😊
I just assume people who do these things are vegans just to say they are/to seem like good people, because if they really cared about the animals, they'd look into better ways of persuading people than hate and judgement.
@@youreinvalid8493 Thank you! It's true,I haven't always been vegan and I know it's not easy.🙂
@@youreinvalid8493 Absolutely, I completely agree that approaching people with kindness and education is more effective than passing judgment. When engaging in outreach about veganism, I strive to be respectful and understanding, recognizing that everyone is on their own journey of awareness.
However, when individuals are fully aware of the harm they are causing and choose to continue, it seems reasonable to express judgment. I believe this is a natural response, much like one might express judgment towards those who commit heinous acts to other humans. It's about holding individuals accountable for their actions.
The idea that people advocating against animal abuse do so to feel superior lacks thoughtful consideration. The inclination to perceive vegans this stems from individuals grappling with their own cognitive dissonance. It's uncomfortable for many to confront the dissonance between professing a dislike for animal abuse while actively supporting it. Instead of facing this internal conflict, some individuals project it onto those who align their actions with their ethical beliefs and genuinely practice what they preach. Your comment is a perfect example of this.
@@youreinvalid8493 Agreed, and very well said
this is going to be amazingggg and rip for glasses
I agree with two. The its the owner not the breed is mostly true but when getting a dog you do very much need to consider what the dog originally is bred for and what job (even just a pet) they are best for or best for your life style. Then in that case someone ill informed or ignorant about the breed messed up.
Also the training young dogs. I started training with my service dog at age 5months, when had become potty trained. However it mainly was to get him out. See things, experience the world. He did have an in training vest on but its cause I wanted people to treat him already as a service dog not a cute puppy you can run up to or distract. Expectations were lower for my you g dog, since he still was doing obedience, but I wanted to mix obedience with distinctions after a while of training. I feel its more unfair to train them and never expose them to outside distractions or possible scary things, such as a loud bang in Home Depot, and working through it.
Definitely! I think for some dogs that have a good foundation / genetics and socialisation period but I know with River if I didn’t continually take her to places that she may encounter in the future she would easily become overwhelmed having to do that at a year old having never been inside of a shop. I think task training should always be fun regardless of the age but because she’s such a high energy breed she really enjoys learning new things and picks them up quickly so I don’t worry too much that it’ll be too soon for her 😊
I think it's okay to label an >8 week old puppy as an assistance dog in training if you are socializing them to things they will experience in their career, but are unlikely to encounter a pet friendly equivilant during the crucial socialization period.
For instance, taking a future seeing eye dog to a football game or concert.
I completely agree that they should not be focusing on actual assistance training at this age though.
The problem in the UK isn't so much the breeders but the import of puppies from puppy mills. Now those people don't care where the puppies go, it's just about money
Where I used to live the house behind imported puppies from Ireland with no mothers and kept them in sheds, all different breeds from pomeranians to boxers, and the noise was awful. We reported them constantly to the RSPCA, noise complaints etc and nothing was ever done 🥲
Rabbits can have a heart attack just from seeing a predator.
Shut in a secure shed at night there’s no chance of that
i'm American so it may be different in the UK but here there's definitely people here who will keep "aggressive breeds" on purpose bc they think they're cool or tough and won't train them bc it's funny to them when they lunge at other animals. The same type of person who won't get their dogs fixed bc it's "emasculating"
I think pets should be licensed like cars.
People should have to take a test or have a guardian who took the test.
If you want to breed there should be a license on top.
We used to have licenses! I recon a license to breed and own any animal will drastically reduce annual animal cruelty cases, alongside a public access test when dogs turn 12 months old to ensure they’re safe to be in public. Governments can use vets as a first line to ensure all owners have licenses, by requiring this information upon registration + on their microchip. The other ways in which it’s enforced would be more difficult, but definitely require severe punishments - like a ban from owning dogs if you’re found to be backyard breeding them. The only concern for me would be the governments interest in profit, which may make affording a license extremely difficult for many existing dog owners unless welfare organisations are able to lobby a deal that ensures it’s a fair price.
Ultimately, a ban on any breed of dog will only end up widening, as irresponsible owners will move onto the next breed available which will eventually also be deemed as dangerous and banned, so trying to solve the problem instead of using scapegoats is vital in offering a permanent solution to reducing dog attacks and improving overall animal welfare
This may just be my opinion, but I don't understand how you can say that some people don't have the mental strength to realize pigs and dogs are the same and as you said " all deserve to live", whilst also saying an angry rat who doesn't like other rats should be put down against their will.
I’m not sure what’s difficult to understand? Mass killing healthy animals for our own benefit and consumption vs humanely euthanising an animal with a poor quality of life and a medical issue for its own benefit are different 😊
@@Emiology I just don't think its ok to put down an animal who physically is alive and healthy because you assume they don't have a quality of f life due to not liking other rats. I don't like many other people but I still want to continue living, and I couldn't imagine people making that call for me just because I didn't like other people. There are tons of rats who are terrified of have unknown trauma which is why they don't like or trust other rats. I've seen someone's dog scared and aggressive over other dogs, but when they got a cat he loved them. Or when someone had a scared cat, but when they got a bunny he perked up and she was his favorite. I just can't fathom putting down a rat because " no matter how hard you try they don't get along with other rats". Like you've said in the past, why not just re-home them if you don't think you can keep them with how they are. They only live about 2 years anyway.
Thank you for speaking out in favor of bigger enclosures. The minimum requirements for... any animal, really... Are simply disturbing.
"But they're scared of open space!"
So what! Then fill the space with hiding spots and clutter to make them feel safe instead of making the poor animal/s live inside a freaking shoe box. It's not rocket science, goddammit.
The thing with pigs Vs dogs is that pigs are cattle and were domesticated to be eaten. Correct me if I’m wrong but dogs historically haven’t been raised for eating?? Im also not saying it’s wrong to be vegetarian/vegan, I just look at like that
In some countries dogs are bred and raised as a food source, it’s just a cultural difference
Do you think it's acceptable to dog fight if the dogs were bred and raised for that? Impregnating an animal for a specific purpose has nothing to do with the morality of that purpose, and it boggles my mind that people think it's ok to excuse murder because of it.
@@Emiology yeah dogs in some countries aren’t viewed the same it’s definitely a cultural difference that I can at least try to respect it.
@@jermajayjay1092 I mean that’s the history of the American pit bull terrier and I’m pretty sure English bull terries staffies etc…luckily dog fighting is illegal. Cattle has been bred and used for food for a millennium. Bred for that specific purpose. Meat that’s ethically raised and sourced isn’t a bad thing. Not to mention a lot of vegan foods have human slave labor to harvest them, or even conventional veggies can be shady with picking. Honestly no food is without some abuse at times that’s why as a consumer you need to be mindful.
If you can keep rabbits outdoors, why cant you keep mice/rats/other rodents outside too? Genuinely curious.
Some people do keep rats and mice on purpose built sheds but they have to be rodent proof to stop wild rodents coming in and passing things like leptospirosis onto them. Rabbits can be vaccinated against things that wild rabbits can spread but smaller rodents there isn’t vaccines for. Well sheltered rabbits do okay in U.K. temperatures but smaller rodents like mice can’t regulate their body temperature so don’t do as well in outdoor conditions 😊
My cat is 19 years old and has only been outside for vet visits and transportation. 19 years. Let your cat outside and you shorten their lifespans. Its irresponsible.
Past rabbit owner here. I really have to disagree about rabbits being outside. They will always be safer inside, with company, and without a risk of having a heart attack by getting scared by even a random, loud noise. I don't like this misconception that it's fine to keep them outside, because it is not fine.
I’d disagree that inside always differs so much from outside, here our houses are just as hot sometimes hotter than the outside, many people have predators inside the home that could pose a risk to the rabbits (I know someone who’s dog was fine for years and one day broke into their rabbit room and killed all their rabbits) and lots of households are loud with sudden unexpected noises too. It’s not a misconception that it’s fine to keep them outside it’s just a personal and cultural difference 😊 When done properly a secure large shed setup is really no different to being ‘inside’ after all 😊
If the bunny wasn't alone, I'd be inclined to agree with you :) Sadly usually when I hear about people keeping their rabbits outside, it's not in all those ideal conditions :(
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Hey Emi I remember when you did that reacting to its just jay jay and smelly belly something well I was looking at the comment section and OMG pls check it out. So many supportive rat owners busting her for bad rat care including myself pls do check it out would live to hear if you do !
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One of my cats is half feral and he needs supervision outside so he doesn’t go crazy and catch any birds. Supervised time in the garden/on a harness is how I do it 😊
Bunnies should never be outside. Its bad for their health.. theyre just vegan cats with the same energy levels & potty training abilities. (They potty train just as easily.) They belong indoors free roaming with the family. Watch Lennon the bunny videos for more information. 🐰 her bunny is 100% free roamed.
I’ll pass 😅 Rabbits are also social animals that should live in pairs / groups, it’s also bad for their health to be stressed and taken outside their environment for ‘play dates’ and paraded around where dogs can chase them etc which has occurred on a few occasions in videos
Safe access outdoors isn’t necessarily bad for their health it can be incredibly enriching for them to express natural behaviours they can’t always achieve indoors 😊
I do agree that it is much nicer to have them indoors as part of the family where possible and for some rabbits they’ll really thrive with that, and it does mean you’re able to keep a closer eye on them and their health
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I love your channel and all the rat information you have given me but I do strongly disagree with the point, it's a bit hypocritical to eat pigs but not dogs. People tamed and bred dogs to be man's best friend, to not be so independent and to heavily rely on us. we bred them to help us with hunting, searching, herding and so much more (and that doesn't include eating them lol). that's why we have so many breeds such as the blood hound and dachshund. As for farm animals such as pigs and cows they were bred to be livestock I'm not saying they can't be your friend it's just a fact and I do believe all livestock animals deserve good lives and to be killed in the most humane way possible. It's cruel to breed an animal to be your best friend and to be so heavily dependent on you just to abuse them to death and eat them. I really could go on but I'll leave it at that if you see this please don't disregard what I said.
I think the original comment also links into the ties that in some cultures dogs aren’t as highly viewed as pets and some dogs are bred for food purposes only, and for those that carry out that practice it’s viewed as okay. Pigs and dogs are both sentient and have similar levels of intelligent and emotional capacity to understand what’s about to happen to them when they’re going through the process of being turned into food. I just think regardless of the benefit the animal itself brings us whether that’s a job, companionship like dogs or a livestock animal that doesn’t, they equally deserve to not suffer any distress or pain before they die, which unfortunately is still the case in a lot of fast paced food industries.
Why on earth do you think that it's ok to kill someone because you impregnated their mother for that purpose? Do you also think it's acceptable to force dogs to rip each other to shreds because we bred them for that? Would it become okay to eat dogs if you impregnated their mother specifically to kill her babies?
Some dogs definitely need to be put down for behavioural issues, particularly larger aggressive breeds, as evidenced by the serious dog attacks regularly reported on the news. Dogs are a pet that can kill people, so those with any dangerous behaviours need to be kindly PTS
There’s a dog in our town, happens to be an American bully, last month it escaped its house and ripped a little dog out of a child’s hands and killed it in front of her. It’s not the first time someone’s had issues with this owner and his dog, yet he’s been allowed to keep it and it’s still walking around 😩
@@Emiology its terrifying isn't it. I watched a couple of videos of those dogs attacking grown men and nothing stops them. The people who bred them so carelessly (small gene pool, aggressive genetics) are the real villains.
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Rabbits should be fully free roamed inside.
What about the thousands of rabbits in rescues in the U.K. because there just isn’t space for them in most U.K. homes? 😔
The 'working dogs' thing is bizarre: many dog breeds were bred for working, why were border collies singled out? Many dog breeds 'work' was also fairly unsavoury... what, you should only exercise dogs by allowing them to course hares? Or fight other dogs? What a psychotic thing to type out.
Try not to engage with this clearly very disturbed content. I mean: wherever you found this opinion, not your content, lol.
I had a male mouse that was the only one fighting every other male mouse en bit me more than ones very hard and draw blood, i gave him to my cat, she ended the problem with one bite. Clean fast and no suffering.
That’s on you for housing male mice together when you shouldn’t 👏🏼 lovely ethics
Ah yes cats, those famously quick killers.
Poor mouse