Things MARILYN didn't want YOU to KNOW
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Insecurities of Marilyn Monroe
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Fellow long time Marilyn Monroe fan here! A few notes from having read numerous books and watched countless documentaries about her (plus most of her films starting with Don’t Bother to Knock, Niagara and on):
* The Bluebook Agency referred to her as “the chinless wonder”, that’s what Aly was referencing in that section about her chin implant.
* I agree it was likely Lytesse (sp?) who taught Marilyn to move her mouth & face that way. She was also doing her own version of the Old Hollywood “transcontinental” accent, which made her pronunciation a bit funny, since there was a some British influence to it. She was following trends of that era, though Marilyn’s version sounded kind of cheesecake/cutesy. The accent can be heard clearly in Katherine Hepburn, as an example. Or she could have been copying her idol & the reason MM started acting, Jean Harlow. I don’t recall if Aly mentioned her here…
However, once she began work in The Actor’s Studio, focusing on method acting (similar to Marlon Brando, Heath Ledger, etc.) she learned how to act in her roles in a more natural, easy way. She still added unique touches to her characters but she looks a lot less stilted, more organic. Sadly, the method was overwhelming to her fragile psyche, and it took her down a dark road psychologically, which worsened her mood swings and trauma-related struggles. 😔
* Regarding her being called “The most beautiful woman in the world” and how some commenters are saying “they don’t agree/don’t see it.” It’s possible you may be missing the point:
There have been *countless* physically attractive, even gorgeous, women actors in Hollywood. Like, they’re aesthetically more pleasing to you than MM, especially given that beauty standards have shifted across the decades. (though they remain difficult or unattainable, as always 😑)
Yet…there is a biopic coming out about MM’s life and career as we speak. There seems to be one coming out at least once a decade. Her style and aesthetic is replicated repeatedly by Hollywood actors/musicians in photo shoots, etc. Yet most of those other famous beautiful actors can’t say the same.
So is she the most beautiful? If not, then why are we so drawn to her as a society? That’s what got me curious about her. What made her iconic?
I believe we are attracted to her (aka, find her attractive, literally and figuratively) because of her energy and how she emits that at the camera and on the screen. In movie scenes, the eye naturally gravitates to her if she’s on screen. She portrays a sense of innocence and softness alongside her sexual image. And that juxtaposition is rare. She was also very publicly vulnerable in an era when most stars managed to keep their struggles a secret. And she did refine her look to a T, and had immense control of her image in most of her films, as well as how each role was played. She was also the first woman in Hollywood to own a production studio.
She was terrified of being filmed, but loved being photographed, but she still stayed in acting.
By the way, I don’t recall her ever referring to herself as “the most beautiful.” She knew and talked about being a sex icon, how it’s a double-edged sword and how she wanted most of all to be “a great actress.” So let’s be clear on that: she never gave herself that title. We did, as a society.
* Regarding comments seeming to somewhat talk down to or make fun of Marilyn for all of the changes/tweaks she made to her body, be it through procedures or her movements/behaviors/posing:
She was an artist. She was (coercively) over-medicated and deeply insecure at her worst, but she was a shrewd business woman at her best. She was meticulous with her appearance, and she studied her craft and perfected her instrument (for an actor, that’s their body). So for us to sit here & look down on her? Do we look down on Daniel Day Lewis for his obsession with his craft? No.
I admire her for going beyond the surface, and learning not just what her angles are, but studying human anatomy, and how the bones and muscles connect and move, the entire concept behind body language. Because remember, it wasn’t just about stills, she was working with movement, too. She was known for this, along with her aforementioned method acting studies with Lee Strasberg at The Actors Studio in NYC.
Anyway, thanks for reading and considering my points! Clearly I love MM (Norma Jean Baker’s creation!) as a person, thank you, Aly, for your video on this! 🤍🤍
You seem to know what you’re talking about and I am intrigued as to what created MM (I didn’t know she did a specific accent for example). I do think once people talk about how ‘everyone is talking about this!’ (even if it’s true or not) it retains and makes other people do just that. I do have a couple of questions; What books/movies/websites do you recommend about MM? And do you believe she had ingenue essence (it’s tied to Kitchener’s and Kibbe’s explanation of someone’s vibe)
Wow amazing addition - thank you ❤️
@@AlyArt I am honored to be pinned!! 🤗🤍 thank you, Aly! I could talk about MM all day! I really enjoy your range of analyses of various starlets/fashion icons, and have loved your work since the early days, when you replicated famous figures’ faces by “sketching them” on your own face with makeup!!
@@ricexcake143 Hi! Before I get into my recs, I just read up about the Ingenue essence, and I believe MM epitomizes it! Honestly, it's meant to be angelic, romantic and youthful. Visually, having a larger head (in proportion to her body, I can relate, haha!) she already looked a bit child-like.
Psychologically, I believe Marilyn was in a kind of arrested development due to being in foster homes for so long, being effectively repeatedly abandoned as a child due to her mom's ongoing mental illness. She seems deeply in touch with her inner child, and allows her to shine through far more than many of us do (it especially came out when she was around children - you can see this in outtakes and scenes of her with 2 children in "Something's Got To Give," the final film she shot but never completed.
I believe it's what makes her "dumb blonde" characters feel more likable - the honest sense that she's not taking herself too seriously, and she's a bit angelic, so you don't want to hurt her (women are even interviewed saying that about her - how she made people want to protect her. If women felt this, I can imagine men feeling it even more!)
And romantic because she spoke so often of having that enduring love that she never got (to last) with any of the men she dated/married. Plus, her father was out of the picture, and she showed times of "magical thinking," with the fantasy that Clark Gable was her father. This is what makes it particularly upsetting that effin' Arthur Miller cast Gable to play her LOVE interest in The Misfits. He based a LOT of her character in that movie on her real life, even edited the character from the original screenplay to make her almost perfectly reflect MM's/Norma Jean's life.
Check out the channel Be Kind Rewind, amazing reviews of academy award winning actresses across time. The channel did a piece recently on The Misfits, because it is a standout film for MM, and spoke to her progress as an actress, and also how messed up that whole shoot/set was (but only MM got backlash for it.) Tragically, shortly after the release of the film, Gable passed away of a heart attack, which was likely brought on by his old age, drinking, and insisting on doing all his own stunts in the desert heat. But people blamed MM because allegedly she was causing delays, when many others contributed to that. Do watch that video!
AMAZING COMMENT. Thank you for taking the time!!! ❤
I think that’s why she was mentally exhausted. Her whole thing was a beautiful act. She made herself into a masterpiece. Becoming living art killed her.
She was a perfect ten, and period, whether she made herself into MARILYN MONROE. RIP, YOU WHERE THE SEXIEST AND STILL ARE. EE LOVE YOU MARILYN 💗
@@lilliangilbert4252 Uh…ok then. Ahem. Moving on.
@@AB-sm1qf bitch is craaayyy 🤣🤣🤣
I think her personal struggles from childhood and accidentally mixing narcotic medication with alcohol met to her demise.
@@lilliangilbert4252 ah...
I’m exhausted just hearing about everything she felt she needed to do to look good. I can’t imagine living under that stress every single day.
The thing is she wasnt the only one at that time shes just the one that grew in popularity
It was simply her job, I don’t think it was a source of stress, at least not anymore than anyone's job is for them. After all, she succeeded in her job, in being beautiful, right to the end. So she knew she was doing ok.
@@dailybls But in a normal job you get to go home and no one follows and photographs you everywhere you go, but for her it never stopped. Always cameras, always people watching her and media ready to pounce the moment she doesn't look her best. I think that would severely affect most people. Just a thought.
Dear, most of these videos, movies have a lot of speculations, it's not facts. Obviously she had insecurities throughout her life like everyone at some point, but because she is famous, everyone is just assuming now days as if they knew her, I'm sure the people that knew her a bit, would disagree with most of what people are saying about her.
Marilyn was making enormous amount of money with her looks. You'd do the same if you'd be in the same position.
She's intelligent and ahead of her time. Her influence is so strong that she's still relevant until today, being talked about, being used as a reference/inspiration, what a woman.
Man
@@celticmyst1169oh no
In a common sense way. She had no formal education.
Jayne Mansfield is what you call intelligent and head of her time by knowing several languages and a musician.
Also sleeping around with people's husbands.
All i understand from this is that she is hardcore perfectionist and even minor things affected her also these little things which she cared about so much made her a very creative and intriguing character in her movies
She was a master at manipulating her body and features so that her flaws became an asset. It’s still amazing to me how intuitive and bright she was…way ahead of her time.
She was very smart and also very ironic
@@Melinda8162 Maybe, you wanted to attack her! 😂
Not really. Back then when people had work they dint share it with the public. And perfection was thee ideal image back then for everyone.
@@Melinda8162 Yes she was very intelligent, she read many books to educate herself. Are you jealous, maybe?
@@elouise5593 Who said I was talking to YOU? I wasn't even talking about her.
I always say that Marilyn's best role was herself. There was no Marilyn Monroe, it was a role played by Norma Jean. Imagine the stress of playing an actress 24/7 who has to play in real movies...
You mean the stress of an actress playing a part as real life...? RIP MM/ NJ ❤
I mean no discredit to Marilyn . . . but honestly that was a large stress to plenty of actresses during that time. All of these women were reinventing themselves and trying so hard to make it and hoping all their problems would be solved. That they could finally get to that point and have what they saw some other actress do that made them thirst to be an actress. To be that beautiful woman that people talked about who was swimming in luxury and living the dream.
People lived entire lies and honestly women weren't the only ones. Plenty of male actors were told to be more masculine and put to high standards and made into sexual prey.
Imagine being under the control of psychopaths 24/ 7 without recourse.
As an autistic woman diagnosed in my lates 30s and who have been camouflaging myself, I know what it feels like! And it is torture
Have you seen her in The Misfits. Her last and best role. Incandescent
Whatever her insecurities or flaws may have been, she was glorious to look at.
Yes because, to be copied u need wisdom n as we know we have no second marilyn monoro she is just one n only person, a highest iconic personality in beauty industry.
I’m not a Marilyn fan but totally agree with this
“Glorious” you said it best
a lot of people don't know she used 9 different layers of lipstick to make the perfect lip. i remember it included a lot of lip liner, powder and petroleum jelly among other things.
she also proved she could model in anything by sporting a potato sack for a photoshoot because someone said she wouldnt be able to pull it off.
poor girl went through a lot. 😮💨
Wow! That’s interesting. That’s how I do my lips! Lipliner and powder and lipstick! Not 9 layers though!
I usually use 2 - 3 different 💄s to make a really beautiful color. Some woman even ask me what's kind of lipstick I use. And it has to be Estee Lauder or Guerlain.
@@ludastout2852 Too expensive. For me its Rimmel! 💋
Yes
Also white eyeliner outlined by black
it’s crazy how many imitators she has for things that were actually her insecurities.
Which really is the biggest example of exactly why we need to worry less about ours too
That’s because she took her insecurities and managed to turn them into something the rest of the world found beautiful, even if she didn’t. Shows what an artist she really was.
@@skylaralexis7699 "life is 90% confidence and the thing about confidence is that no one knows if it's real or not". I hope she's happy now, wherever she is:)
A lot of her imitators and admirers have been drag queens. Same for Cher, etc. You have to wonder.
@@nini-qc1qd maddy is that u?
It's sad that the industry that showed us her beauty told her she didn't have enough of it.
They still do this. It hasn't changed. My cousin had an agency drop her because she had hair on her arms.. they screamed at her over it. They go out of their way to cause insecurity.
That industry is against natural, it doesn't bring enough money..
@@lamoinette23your cousin shouldn’t enter a look based industry then duh. In that world your product is your appearance.
@@wulfsorenson8859 She's a successful actor.
@@lamoinette23 yes where your physical appearance is your currency. Acting skills are considered secondary to how you look on screen…Also there are alot of highly jealous and toxic middle aged women working at those agencies too - they will go out of their way to demean younger prettier white women under the guise of looking right for the job. I’ve worked in that industry and the women were ALWAYS the most toxic - especially to other women.
The more I learn about her the more respect and admiration I have for her. The girl was DEDICATED to the performance - on screen and off. I remember reading in a book about her once, something about how she was walking down the busy streets of New York with a friend, at a time when most of America would certainly recognize her - but nobody took a second glance...
Then she turns to her friend and says something like,
"Do you want to see me become her?"
Suddenly people were stopping and noticing, immediately recognizing her.
Nobody had to name her "Most Beautiful in the World".
She didn't even have to think as much herself.
She simply knew how to flex, accentuate - how should I say this...
If all these little efforts with pulling this muscle here, talking with a mouth shaped in this way, having her hair like this, having this thing here like that - if all of those singular things were say, keys on a piano,
Then all Marilyn did was learn to play perfectly everyones favorite song. It didn't matter if you didn't like piano - you bobbed your head to the music she was playing.
I hope that makes sense lol. I grew up around 8 Beautiful sisters, a mother and grandmother who wouldn't dare leave the house without makeup on, etc etc. There are just some women in the world, who know how to wield their femininity in ways that only femininity can be wielded.
That friend was Truman Capote!
She had literally ALL my insecurities (we both are romantic, and the thing with the face and the eyes and the legs and the hands is just the same to me), and could've never imagined something like that cuz she was extremely beautiful
She must've been exhausted, she tried her best to reach perfection but she was already perfect
So are you .
I don't understand the romantic thing.
Same here it is so crazy how almost all her insecurities are similar to mine( like 90%😳)
it is scary to me the hell💀
They called her "The Chinless Wonder." After her chin implant surgery, a casting agent asked her what happened to it and she claimed to have fallen on her chin. The agent responded "Well you ought to have fallen on your chin three years ago."
Such a cruel industry, particularly at that time.
Wabi_ sabi she never had chin implant surgery that was her real chin. She only had surgery on her nose she wouldn't go that far.
@@mariaremedio1422 her plastic surgeon's records were released a few years ago and they described a chin implant surgery. Also nose surgery and saline breast injections to make them fuller.
@@carmenhunter4380 it’s lie 🙄🙄do you realise such surgery not exist in 50s ?
@@zenitsu1909 I don't know what surgery did or did not exist in the 50s. I am from the 1980s, and I dont read up on surgery as a hobby or anything. Who knows what kind of experimental techniques were tried behind closed doors. Unless you were there I don't see how u can be so convinced it's a lie.
@@snsh7207 well people look awful with such type of surgeries even nowadays, i guess everyone want to convience themselves that marylin wasnt natural and gifted
She is the epitome of what happens when one is criticized. No one ever thinks there is something wrong with them until someone else tells them so.
Exactly we are fragile beings.
or until you see yourself on camera!
Michael Jackson case in point.
The more beautiful you are the more criticized you are.
For example: I was never told that I was “too fat“ except when I was at my slimmest.
Just know that when people start picking at little details on you, they are envious or you are close to perfect.
not true. we can develop low selfworth from a very earlyy age on, children very much are in the picture of what thee norm is and what isn't .
I was born in 1948. I watched her movies when I could and thought of her as very beautiful but vulnerable and fragile. When she got married, or went into the hospital because of a nervous breakdown, those events were always in the newspapers. I knew about her mother, her childhood and I felt so sorry for her. I don't know what all of her problems were, of course, but I'm very sorry she didn't grow up in a happy family and have a chance at a long and happy life with a family of her own.
Hi Kathleen. I have a question to ask you. Have you ever seen/heard of another actress who looked like Marilyn Monroe? This actress had natural blonde hair with light blue eyes and she had no plastic surgery done on her. She was offered a hollywood contract but she turned it down once she immediately found out about the hollywoods promiscous lifestyle. Few people in USA and Canada know about her. She was a latina babe with wife material type credentials. She was very humble and a likeable person in general that she actually won the miss congeniality award in the miss universe contest.
@@Trancymind No, I'm afraid I have never heard of her. What was her name?
@@kathleenmckeithen118Maribel Arrieta. She was a salvadoran. Like I said she was a natural physically and mentally compare to Marylin Monroe. There was a reporter who asked this question to Maribel, 'Are you trying to copy Marylin Monroe?' Maribel answered with this, 'I think she (Marylin) is trying to copy me.' Lol. What an answer! Lol.
@@Trancymind Thank you! I will look her up😊
I have terrible social anxiety+panic disorder. Watchin her interviews it felt the moves she makes not only in her face but in her body showed a lot of anxiety more than anything else. But that’s just me. Watchin this video gave me anxiety so it makes sense because I can’t imagine how she really felt…….
Marylyn also had a serious condition of poly cystic ovarian disorder. Her cycles were so painful she had to take serious pain killers to get through them. PCOD is also notorious for causing facial hair and hormonal imbalances. Her autopsy revealed severe scar tissue and endometrial uteru fibroids. She had a tragic life but was so fragile physically and emotionally.
RICKETTS did that.
So interesting! I didn't know she had PCOS. It's made things very challenging for me as well.
Isn't that endometriosis? I have PCOS and our periods aren't necessarily more painful - just heavier and irregular and don't include developing endometrial fibroids anywhere else in the body.
@@emilijaromic288 she ad both, along with uterine fibroids. PCOS is extremely painful when you develop and rupture ovarian cysts regularly.
@@emilijaromic288 YOU'RE _lucky!_ Both my daughters have PCOS and they were both hospitalized right after their FIRST periods. We've dealt with it ALL, prolonged periods that caused severe anemia...heavy periods that caused severe anemia...and the worst: life threatening uncontrollable bleeding with quite a bit of pain that most recently ended in a D&C that only stopped bleeding for a week. 3 Depo injections in, 3 months apart, and still just hoping it will stop her periods altogether like it did for my eldest many years ago. PCOS has traumatized this Mom 🥺
One thing that i've learn from people like Dita Von Teese for example, is that glam is not effortless, is completely fabricated and controlled. That's the thing we should be aware of: Glam originated as a personification of an idea of luxury linked to beauty and i absolutely love it. I love Marilyn Monroe and even more Norma Jean for her creativity in creating such an icon that still inspires many other artists to this day❤️
Edit: i don't speak or write in english often, so of course corrections are welcome. Kindness and understanding is also appreciated.
controlated? Oh you mean controlled!
Your comment reminds me of a video by Contrapoints titled “Opulence”. She makes that same point that glamour and opulence is the aesthetic of wealth that many aspire to imitate or become.
It’s all artificial. It’s not good
Yes! I too remembered Dita describing glamour as a constrouct thing, a witchcraft of sort, somenthing you have to work for very hard. I rembered her words during this video.
@@shade247Why? All our culture and legacy are artificial. Otherwise, we must return to the forest and live with chimpanzee.
She was born in the wrong time.. today she would of thrived she definitely paved the way ❤
Today, she’d still met the same fate! These chicks out nowadays won’t live to be 50 or hell even 40
She read the book “The Thinking Body“ which helped her come up with her movement and posture. I read that book, it is not an easy read.
There is so much people don’t know about this woman. Just pick up the book “Fragments“, it’s written in her own hand. It explains a lot ❤
Who is the author of "the thinking body"?
this comment made me start reading "fragments" and jeez ur so right she writes so eloquently and halfway thru the book of reading her poems i could feel her sadness and understand through what she was saying and how she was writing the poems how lonely and scattered she felt-- she was very clear about it. such a bittersweet haunting poet with so many sad lines. i haven't even finished it yet and i can already hear in her words the sadness and heaviness getting worse as her life went on and people kept doing her wrong. what's worse is it's clear to see she still struggled to find meaning and balance and growth despite also battling her overwhelming feelings of despair and insecurity and loneliness. she was a beautiful but sad soul. she was run down from the beginning, but still continued to mentally fight.
@@zvezdoblyat Mabel Elsworth Todd. 1937 Edition. I hope.
she had more than physical beauty, she had a lot behind her eyes, she was a luminous soul, she was a survivor and self-made from a horrible abusive childhood in poverty to acting, comedienne, and an icon
Not really 😂😂😂😂
what's an icon? A dead but sparkly image for fooling people
She might have been self/made but tragically did not survive
@@starchildofthe90s7ah another insecure person on the internet
I love the story told by one of her friends about when they were walking in NYC and Marilyn was without makeup and her hair wasn't perfect, and no one knew who she was. She asked her friend, "Do you want to see her?" Her friend didn't know what she meant but then all of a sudden there was Marilyn. She actually stopped traffic, and everyone knew who she was. Her friend said that she had never seen anything like it in her life.
Wow I didn't know that story!
Amazing! Where did you hear this?
@@yueyuelii thank you!
@@spigney4623 no problem! :D
Yes, I remember reading this too.
In other words, the studio heads treated her like a freak of nature and they built the image we know from scratch.
No wonder she went nuts.
Shelley Winters was her roommate when they were both starting out in Hollywood, and Shelley said that Marilyn observed how gorgeous and alluring Shelley looked when she had her lips slightly parted, head barely tilted back and keeping her eyelids lowered, which Shelley did intentionally for that desired, sultry effect. So Marilyn started replicating that.
Shelley said Marilyn was hyperconscious of being beautiful at all times and couldn't stand looking anything other than perfect-- your video very much echoes that. I can't imagine contorting and controlling so many muscles in my face and thinking all of time of how to turn the body, and knees to appear the absolute best WHILE emoting and reciting lines. Incredible!
I've heard she was highly intelligent and well-read even though quite immature in her social life. I can believe she had a sharp mind. She was gifted at comedy and I don't think that is possible without a keen and quick mind.
Ok ok she is even smarter than Einstein 🤣🤣🤣
She played an infantile character so often that anything passably intelligent coming from her seemed genius. Low expectations are easy to exceed
@D K that is hella rude. To create and maintain the persona 'Marilyn Monroe' was genius, we are still talking about her, she's infamous....also she was typecast doesn't mean that's all she was, a dumb blonde. She was funny & articulate & liked to associate with intellects, & she married Arthur Miller, she loved his mind....
Marilyn is a genius. I have read some of her diaries. Her mind and her depth of soul is profound
@@siren369xstar8 Einstein was overrated and a jerk too, he stole ideas from his wife who was a much better student and more brilliant and used her.
I always felt sorry for her. She had many personal struggles and deep wounds. We probably only know the half of it.
I wish there was a time machine
I still have a lot of deep feelings of sorrow and crying for her.
Her childhood trauma set her up for compartmentalization, leading to her successful programming.
User-ex, I appreciate your compassion and empathy. It speaks well of you. Bless🌝❤
Like a lot of people do...
Wow Aly here REALLY knows her stuff. I would have never known Marilyn had been so developed. Aly perfectly illustrates there is no such thing as perfection.
Although I love Marilyn Monroe and have interest in everything that had to do with her, at the same time I feel bad that all these secrets that she did not want anyone to know has now been revealed to everyone.😢
I ve always wondered why Marilyn always did that weird thing with her lips when she smiled and talked …Thanks for a great explanation!
This video is absolutely fascinating. So well researched and I feel what Aly sees with her eyes is mostly unnoticeable by a regular person. She's truly gifted.
She was pouting while she was talking. Very clever.
I remember seeing that when I was a kid & being really turned off by such an obvious affectation.
Almost as if it was insulting because she seemed to be making the assumption that her audience was so
naive they wouldn't know it was caricature.
lol I might be adopting that way of speaking bc I've always not liked how I look when I smile.
@@lahaza6515 too many really have no clue. I had a guy weirdly confess to everyone on discord that he thought Marilyn was the most beautiful woman (as if it was something unusual), and I just didn't know how to respond. I felt like, ok.. yeah that was basically her job, to make you feel that way. And he went on and on going" I just can't explain it, the way she naturally walk, the way she naturally talks, it makes me feel soooo..."
Dude seriously thought she was all natural.
One story I heard....A woman complimented Marilyn on a brooch she was wearing. Marilyn immediately removed the brooch. "If they are looking at this, they are not looking at me." True story or not, it is a good point to keep in mind.
I've heard similar stories. She didn't paint her nails for the same reason. She didn't want one aspect of her appearance to stand out and draw focus, rather, she wanted to create a whole overall look and impact. 🌝
@@jodiejohnson2408 I'm pretty sure I've seen her with painted nails in movies. Just not super long and overdone with jewels and everything crazy like they do nowadays.
@@johnlucas773 in a film, playing a character? Plus there are always exceptions. It is just something I read somewhere that I thought went along with removing the broach story. I don't claim to be an expert. 🌝💅
Whereas Marlene Dietrich would apparently wear a pendant on a long chain so it would draw the eyes towards her bust.
@@PallasAthene12yeah what's wrong with drawing attention to the bosom lol. I like wearing large earrings but I put on too much weight during covid that I won't wear them anymore because any length will draw attention to my double chin lol. Makes a big difference
I haven't seen any comments of appreciation for your descriptive dialogues...so detailed..with visuals! Love it!!!
You can see pictures of her as a teenager--already stunning.
i cant imagine paying so much attention to how i look and trying to constantly think about the insecurities and how to hide them. so exhausting just thinking of it idk how she did honestly makes me so sad
It sounds psychotic to me. I care about how I look, but she was obsessed. Nothing is worth that.
@@hollystiener16 True.
She can't have even her own smile😔
Being a myth always comes from pain..
You guys are being dramatic. I had the opposite problem with my smile, and fixing it took maybe 1 hour of effort. And fixing the way I walk since I used to take steps with my feet turned inwards, that took 1 week of consciousness effort. If there's something you want fixed, I don't see the issue with fixing it. It's not psychotic or obsessive at all
I love this! You're so knowledgeable and thorough. Not only secrets that no one ever guessed Marilyn incorporated but also helpful hints that we can all use, too. Thank you!
MM was and always will be iconic and just perfectly imperfect ❤
No one has perfect proportions, perfect symmetry etc...we all need to accept our flaws and imperfections and embrace our individuality. So sad she was "taught" how she had to change...she shouldn't have had to change anything. She was beautiful as she was xxx
Jayne Mansfield was known as having the Perfect Body. JM did not have any cosmetic surgery done ever. JM was amazing and as if a Superwoman whom had it All. JM had a naturally stunningly beautiful face and won all of her various Beauty Contests. Perfection within the Body/appearance DOTH exist. Anything is indeed Possible! What a Woman JM was and looked to be.
Sharon Tate came pretty darn close.
@@kiranjitKaur61 Marilyn had more appeal 💅
@@heathernikki5734 I doubt that very much. Jayne Mansfield had it All. Jayne Mansfield was apparently a Genius. Her Proportions/Statistics in General were Amazing ! A Superwoman was Jayne Mansfield.
@@kiranjitKaur61 I think Grace Kelly was probably pretty darn perfect looking.
I was a female teen in the 1980’s and vast amounts of girls were making their own “beauty moles.”
I got a natural beauty mole above the right side of my lip(its barely visible in my pfp) A teacher tried to wipe it off once. Lol
Beauty marks are Beautiful to me I have one on my upper lip and on my lip as well
@@LaVidaesfria_ aaa i’ve always wanted a mole above my upper lip, it looks soo pretty
But sometimes it's above her lip, and other times, it's on her chin. In earlier, younger pictures, she doesn't have a mole at all. Did she draw it on? 🤔
@@TheRapnep I suppose that’s the “beauty” of it though. You can draw one on wherever you want. 😂 excuse my nerdy pun of the word beauty.😂
she was absolutely beautiful
Great video! This is the first one of your videos I've ever seen. You did a really great job at mimicking what she did with her mouth and the way she smiled. That must have been so exhausting to always feel as if you couldn't really be yourself.
Wow... She was absolutely tormented by her agency. Her mental health was probably in dire straits trying to keep up with this. It's borderline obsessive to look at yourself so critically (changing the way she smiles, size her forehead, her teeth color, her weight). My heart breaks for her and anyone today (celebrity and non-celebrities alike) who feels that they have to create a whole new image to be accepted or successful. There was never a moment where MM could just live in peace, damnnnn. Makes me feel deep relief that I'm not subjected to that, but it's absolutely tragic that others are! EDIT::: I found this video absolutely fascinating, so don't get me wrong. Aly your videos are always amazing and I love how you frame this for everyone to understand and it makes me appreciate your channel even more. Because it's not about perfection. I just wish folks like Marilyn had people around her, like you, when she was alive.
It was the studios, no agency. They paid her badly, even when she was bringing more money in than any other actor. In the mid 50s she basically did escape to NY, and did not come back for years and the studio finally gave in and let her aprove her directors. But compared to what they later paid Elisabeth Taylor for Cleopatra (don't forget that production nearly ruined the studio) it was absolutely nothing, considering she was THE star for so many years.
I think she was really good at playing with her physicality and making it work for her. She subjected herself to it and became an icon because of it.
She chose that life. She was already married to a nice regular guy, she could have stayed home and had babies. She divorced him to be a star. That's a fact.
@@dailybls She would have stayed married, but he would not let her be an actress and a wife. She married at 16, was a teenager with no experience and found the modeling work interesting. Who would not? After working in a factory. Once she was divorced, she needed money.
Every actress at the time went through basically the same thing. A studio wants returns on their
Investment and if you get into their business you know what’s required.
Glamour is nothing more than the art of illusion and MM was living proof of that. I always noticed that twitchy tremulous thing she would do with her upper lip too. It was one of her rather sweet idiosyncrasies… then I learned that it was actually her attempt to lower her smile and elongate the space between her nose and upper lip! Watching this reminds me how just about everything Marilyn did was contrived. I don’t know how on earth she managed to remember to do everything at once like that ( maybe that’s why she later had so much trouble remembering her lines, lol) but she certainly managed to convince everyone that it all came naturally -and that was her skill.
Um can u point to where she does this. Resource?
I've never been able to take to MM. To me, she's always posing and posturing, like a storefront mannequin. That baby voice and wide-eyed naivety is just grotesque on what was obviously a very adult female body.
@@ThePlataf same! Like a child in a woman’s body. When she acted normal she was stunning but her showy and infantile mannerisms make me very uncomfortable
@@ThePlataf that’s what happens to women who fall under the control of agencies, studios, and an entire industry that’s run by men. The mannerisms and such that made up “Marilyn” were there because they were ultimately the demands of men that wanted them. And men love the sweet innocent little girl bit, add it to a sexbomb body? They’re in their twisted heaven. That still stands today. Just look at all the “school girl fantasy” porn that exists. It’s disgusting.
@@onceinawhile7 same lol
Amazing. One has to appreciate her dedication to refining her self/body to achieve her success. Changing how one smiles. My goodness. Really a artist.
7:18 That pic of her is absolutely beautiful and natural. Love to see her realistic
I’ve always felt so sad for her. Abused by her family, taken advantage of by everyone around her. I wonder if any of her husbands genuinely loved her for Norma Jean or if they were all just infatuated by Marilyn and excited for the status of her being their wife.
I think the only one that truly loved her was Joe DiMaggio… he had her buried and sent her roses 🌹 for many years after. 😢❤
She is an icon in every sense of the word… still relevant to many for many reasons, not just her beauty & style, but the mark she made as an actress and celebrity in the golden era.
@@melissagarza2376he put flowers on her gravestone every week! He definitely loved her the most.
Joe DiMaggio loved her very much.
Joe allegedly was also jealous and controlling,. I read in several biographies that he had a blow-up during the famous scene where her dress flew up as she stood on the grate. Guess that stuff ended their marriage. @melissagarza2376
I think Di maggio loved her but hated Hollywood and the dirty old men running it. Miller was mentally destructive towards her you can see he was. She clung to him he judged her and wrote cruel things on paper. As for the barbiturates. Psychiatry is a culpable institution based on fantasy.
Marilyns body changed throughout her career. She went from very lean to heavy to lean again. It is pointless to say sizes because the system of sizing changed from then until now.
She had a chin implant, her nose shaved and made less bulbous , she also had her teeth fixed they were shaved down and widened. She had an overbite corrected too. She had something done to her ears but Idk what.
She wouldn’t let them laser her widows peak. She liked it. The studios lasered widows peak off on almost all the actresses. Rita Hayworth is one that stands out. The studios liked a high forehead and round hairline. Marilyn knew Rita before and after it was done and Marilyn felt it took away Ritas ethnic look.
She lived with Shelley Winters early in her career; Shelley said Marilyn would put makeup on, and take it off endless amounts of times. She played with colors and different styles. She tried out the different makeup looks the actresses used in print ads. She also learned all about contouring and makeup for black and and color. She also practiced her looks in the mirror for hours on end. Smiling, and talking watching how her eyes and face moved. She often did her own makeup, there were few makeup artists that she trusted.
She wore five different shades on her lips and used eyeliner to line them.
She was very upset when she learned Some Like It Hot would be filmed in black and white. She had perfected Sugars look for color film.
She used to work out with weights and run everyday. Very uncommon for women in the 40s/50s. Especially women that weren’t professional athletes.
She behaved and did so many things way ahead of her time. Now many things she did are normal. Back then it was very controversial.
Irene, what an interesting and insightful comment. I enjoyed reading it. Thank you! 🌝
Why did the studios invest so much time and money on an average girl with no real acting skills though? That's a lot of work and money. Who sponsored it all?
@@spiritualsideup4428 Wha...average girl? Are you serious? Literally the first thought everybody had when she first walked into the studio asking for a job was that she was the prettiest little girl of them all. And it's how they made their fortune, by seeing beyond what people needed and what they were capable of.
@@spiritualsideup4428 actually, marilyn was EXTREMELY underestimated when she first got a contract. she built herself up from the actual hard work she did when she wasn't being put into roles, made connections with the right people, and with a little help crafted a timeless public persona that fit in well with the general old money beauty aesthetics but would also make her a distinct act. and it worked. and like another commenter said, many people thought she was very beautiful even before she became marilyn
Definitely went up and down in size....
This is one hell of a fantastic documentary ! I , as life long admirer of the immortal beauty of Marilyn , could never understand the huge difference between her early , young face , and the one when she had become a movie star. I have discovered on my own many subtle points and features , particularly from the way she moved or how she controlled her mimics , but the great many others always had been mystery to me. Thank you so much for your really eye opening revelations ! Great job !
I'm amazed at how thorough your analysis is, great work! Poor Marilyn, rest in peace Queen ❤
Fascinating, Norma made Marilyn a work of art down to the finest detail. Superstardom is a gift and a curse, you cannot possibly be the same person after these life experiences. She was a clever woman and it wore on her being portrayed as the dumb blonde always. I will say one thing, Marilyn's plastic surgery was more tasteful than the modern starlets. Less is more when it comes to this kind of surgery. Betty Brosmer had such an amazing body that it didn't look real -- she was an early bodybuilder and fitness enthusiast.
I agree, she was a clever woman. She did best in his acting career. I think same, as you, Marilyn´s plastic surgery. Les is more, like you said👍.
Betty Brosmer looked like she had Barbies’ measurements.. she looks like she had plastic surgery to change measurements but I don’t know how she looked earlier in life. Could be just good genes and body sculpting through weight lifting I guess! I just was shocked at her picture on this site! Beautiful but looks unattainable naturally! IMO! Loved this information on the beautiful Norma Jean! 🦋💘🌼
I have many of those insecurities. I cut my hair in lockdown and it curled the same way as Marilyn's when it was growing . Its when I started studying her.I studied her makeup and wardrobe and tried what can be worn in this age. It did me wonders. Just that curled hair turned heads. I looked younger but classy and sexy at the same time. Her look and glow up is the most successful glowup history ever witnessed.
Maybe you have similar type with Marilyn, but it is actually not for everyone. Good to you that you searched your best look ❤️
Lol yes I think I will think of her as the " glow-upper of all times" hereafter;)
Wouldnt call it the most successful glowup when everything about her was fake her eyes her teeth her breast her voice her walk her hair color n now knowing she wore alot of wigs smh this was more of an disappointment to know everything about her is fake..
Interesting! I played with her makeup style a bit. Eyelashes and eyeshadow to make my eyes appear more seductive. And then did the whole energy thing where I opened myself up and showed outwardly that I had a lot of confidence like Marilyn. It turned a lot of heads.
this has to be one of the most informative videos i've ever seen!! congrats on the amazing work
Wow! What a great analysis of one of my favorites. You really poured your heart into the making of this. Lots of great facts and beautiful pics! 👍👍👍
Nice video. It's crazy how focused she was on her look. But it was her job, and the job of everyone around her. These old stars were extremely intelligent women operating in a fairly hostile environment. I'm impressed by how well they did. The price of fame and riches.
Fascinating. It’s very interesting to know that her beauty and glamour wasn’t effortless - and how much time and attention she put into simple things like walking and speaking
Your videos are the best. You're so analytical and must be a very curious person by nature. You also do a great job of explaining things.
I don't like when people address other's weaknesses. Respect for a person that is no longer with us...
You're so good at seeing and explaining detail! I feel so sad for Marilyn, it must have been mentally exhausting to keep control of all those different aspects of her body.
It's only exhausting in the beginnig. Then you get used to it and do it all automatically.
I love the perspective that ideal doesn’t exist. So does in art, everything is just beautiful indiscriminately.
👍🏼When you want to be perfect this mean you dont trust in you like person 👍🏼
It's sad that she was so critical of herself. As far as I'm concerned, she was, is, and always will be the ultimate symbol of beauty and sensuality! Shear perfection! God rest her sweet tortured soul!
Its safe to say that she was imperfectly perfect and how beautiful and glamorous would we all be if we had we a modeling agency coaching us on our best angle and our own team of stylists , surgeons and orthodontists ?
Not necessarily- take a look at Hollywood celebrities
Do you know how hard it is without any photoshop, no trickery of the light to be the most photographed woman in the world and not take one single bad photo? Of all the photos I’ve ever seen of her I have not seen ONE bad photo of her. Even without makeup, gorgeous. Like really think about that. That’s extremely hard to do. Give credit where credit is due. She was always stunning at any given time.
@@user-jf7ej5py1u There might not be photoshop but it sounds like very little is left to chance including probably lighting . However Its not just enough to have a team behind you , and I give her a lot of credit for being willing to do the work !
@@user-jf7ej5py1u theres was air brushing in the 50s to make the skin and makeup look extremely smooth. Nearly all her pictures were touched up.
@@user-jf7ej5py1u I've got several bad pics of her that I found trowelling through Pinterest over a couple of days. Really brings things into perspective.
She had a very tender heart and a total commitment to animating her own body to be most alluring -- I think she accomplished it better than anyone because of her sensitivity and appreciation of life She had sparkling blue eyes, often downplayed.
She let her boobs hang out, slept with other women's husbands and talked with a drugged slurr..you call it "most alluring and tender HEARTED" 🙄
I doubt that MM is Ever downplayed. In Any aspect.
@@diamonddrone7504 nice try renaming that awful behavior, her involvements with married men were just side effects of being a ho ho ho
It makes me happy to know people appreciate Marilyn Monroe.
Marilyn Monroe looked picture perfect Hollywood royalty 😎
I read that she talked with her lips to kind of draw attention to them and just her face in general. The way she moved her lips when she talked was very cute yet sensual and it was just another very calculated way of drawing people's eyes to her lips, which as everyone knows, is usually a signifier that you want to kiss someone, when you stare at their lips
Overcalculated is a great word for everything she did
this video makes me feel so much more comfortable with myself! i love what you make, Aly, you've really changed my life!
That's her objective, because most of the things are bullshit.
another woman's insecurities shouldn't make you feel "comfortable" ever. work on yourself instead
@@justthathappygirl 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@@justthathappygirlright like what💀💀💀
girl WHAT😂😂😂
Great video! So many things I didn't know about her! Keep up the great work and thank you for sharing.
Many years ago I heard a man, involved in film production, who had been on set of Marilyn's movies, say in response to a discussion about Marilyn's body shape, that "she had a thing she did with water, he intimated that he didn't know exactly what it was but he said Marilyn would leave a set on Friday & return on Monday thinner".
Also, perhaps in the same documentary, the actress Shelley Winters said she & Marilyn shared an apartment when they were new to acting in Hollywood. She said Marilyn was insecure: what other people thought of her wasn't how she saw herself; others in Hollywood admired her for her beauty, her glamour & allure; women wanted to be her friend, to protect & guide her & men all wanted to date her. She was not a stranger to the "casting couch" & that didn't help her insecurity & self confidence.
The "thing she did with water" was an enema to remove the poop from the intestines to make lower stomach flatter. Also read she used suppositories and that was a way she could've been drugged to look like an o.d. The book was about who and what killed Marilyn.
She would do enemas for weight loss. That is probably what he was talking about.
Yes. The enemas are mentioned in older biographies of her.
Date her? More like some men wanted to use her as a sexual object.
Laughing to myself - if I had to remember how to properly smile, talk, pose, walk lol I couldn’t do it!
I don’t think Aly has given enough credit to Norma Jean who Always looked beautiful and elegant from the very first photo.
Your videos are always my favorite. Thank you so much!!!
This super comprehensive breakdown is so interesting that I keep watching. Fascinating, I also had no idea Marilyn was such a constructed character. Great job 👏
She actually was NO way more than 5'5.Back then the model agencies were adding the shoe height in the total height (my aunt was working in an model agency in 50s and this is something that she told me).As for the autopsy height 5'5+1/25' (still lower than 5'6) let's keep in mind that she was measured laying down and everybody is half to 1 inch taller when he/she is measured laying down due to spine extension, check it out for yourself! Gongratulations for the video, excellent work 👏 I learned things I didn't knew
Wow I wish I knew that before the video ) Anyway thank you for the comment - very useful ))
I never knew that about the modeling agencies back then. Very interesting! Thanks for sharing.
My mom pin up modeleled in the 40s. She was 5 foot but her agency said she was 5'4 or 5'5 because she had long legs and a short torso. She had modeled in Hollywood with her sister. Her measurements were 32 A, 22, 32-33. She was 95 lbs. I can't even...I'm 55 and always wanted to be like her. I was wide waisted I thought and thick. Mom lived to 93 and looked great despite Alzheimer's and cancer. Just feel bad her and her friends chased impossible beauty standards. I did too. Now I'm at a age where I embrace my body, they're my mom's and grandma's shape. I don't care I have a little pot belly. Beauty is in the soul in the eyes. But I'll always be proud my mom was a pin up model to WWII soldiers and my Dad. May Marilyn rest in peace. .
@@mstea3232 Yes height wasn't that important back then,and it was common to add the hight of the heels to the overall height.Besides pin up's were photomodels so the only thing that mattered expept being photogenic, was to have a body with a good figure and propotions like your mother did, also a pretty face with harmonious features and a great smile, smile was very important! I am sure that your mom had a beautiful smile too!!.I agree with you with we should all embrace ourselves and keep in mind that having flaws is normal there is no flawless human on the earth, even Marilyn had some flaws.Rest in peace for Marilyn and for your mother
Thank you for your insights!
Marilyn Monroe was 5"6.
Allowing anyone to make you feel “less than” it the ultimate insecurity.
Agreed
I have idolized her since I could remember who I was, perhaps since I was 4 years old. Her death was my first celebrity death and it impacted me greatly.. That was the day I found out what death was. She was absolutely a living doll. To me, she is just that, 'the most beautiful woman to ever exist". There are other actresses that are beautiful too, such as Liz Taylor and Shirley Jones, but number one in my book for her beauty and warm personality will always be Marilyn Monroe. Gone too soon.
Controlling everything at the same time is so tiring but Marilyn did it amazingly.
I cannot imagine the amount of research you did on Marilyn! All these detailes and facts are so interesting to watch and listen, thank you for creating such videos! 💕
I knew she posed carefully (as most ladies in the spotlight did and still do) but I had never thought about how she relayed the same techniques to her running. You're totally right! OF COURSE that distinct Marilyn jaunt was her dealing with an insecurity!
This was very informative! Thank for sharing all of these details. So much I didn’t know!
So in-depth you did a great job of breaking down the insecurities and showing all the stress that she was under that most people didn't see. To be labeled as beautiful is its own punishment as well as privilege
Genius! That’s a lot of work to look ‘perfect’. Her whole person was an act. That’s kind of sad.
She was an actress. Which part of that don't you understand? She developed a series of characters, and that made her famous. There's a lot that's sad about her life, but mostly it's how people treated her. It's more about them than her. She was well aware that it was a performance, and a construct.
I remember reading about a chin implant of some sort, too. The thing is, as we get older (say, 30s), our jawline and teeth often looks more prominent anyway, just as the 'puppy fat' goes away, and face and skin gets thinner. So what the modelling agency criticised was just part of being very young.
That scene from Some Like It Hot is so much fun. I can't see a news headline about Shell without thinking of Marilyn's 'Shell OIL?!'
Ahah yes ))
Au contraire, it’s common for cosmetic surgeons to insert small chin implants when doing facelifts to lessen the appearance of loose skin under the neck or double chin.
Agreed. I liked that movie too
I'm so impressed by your ability to define all of these minuscule movements of the face to reshape it. Truly fascinating.
Yes, as Liola below mentioned, Marilyn's look was influenced by the first blonde bombshell, Jean Harlow, whom she loved growing up.
i read she used baby powder as dry shampoo every 2 days, and considering it wasn't common to wash your hair often back then, and the bleach and heat damage her hair went through, and the time it took to do her hair, i highly doubt she washed it every day. everything else, from what i read, is correct. very nice, in-depth video.
What I love about Emilia Clarke is how amazingly expressive and genuine her facial expressions are. Marylin is also the most beautiful in photos and movies where she has a relaxed and natural facial expressions, it's so human. Also, they're both romantics
Loved the video & education on the theatrical techniques ❤️👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🌹
OMG, you have done your research and validated with photos. Thank you for proving MM was no dummy. She knew what she doing in creating THE look of the decade. She WAS the fabulous 50s!
When I saw the title, I honestly thought “why is this person drawing attention to Marilyn Monroe’s insecurities?”. I came to find something wrong with your video, but I immediately loved how you introduced it, explaining people always assume beautiful people can’t feel insecure or have insecurities. I notice people often make people, who they consider beautiful, feel bad for expressing their insecurities and thus, push them to hide themselves in some aspect. This reaction also tends to only make insecurities worse when others invalidate your emotional experience; it really opens my eyes to why, among other reasons, she ultimately took her own life. If you feel like people don’t understand your issues and that you have to always appear perfect, that is obviously very overwhelming. I am grateful for wider understanding. Thank you for sharing this information.
Yeah cat. Probably didnt have to do with the Kennedy association when she died. It was probably because she thought her lips were off .005 %...R-I-G-H-T.
Pointing out mr munro male traits
She really didn't took her on life it was most likely a similar death to the one of Judy Garland
Idk if she really took her own life ......
Marilyn was beautiful! I think my favorite pictures are candid photos of her swimming with very short hair and no makeup. You can see her face clearly and it’s just a gorgeous face.
Excellent breakdown of how she invented herself, and dealt with what MM thought were imperfections, such a beautiful soul, but yet completely insecure. Life is funny though, I’m approaching my 60s and growing up as a young man I focused on my faults as well, but when I look back at pictures of me in my 20s and 30s I was a friggin stud (sorry ya I know sounds conceited, but true) don’t know why I wasted time worrying about about the if I was just this much more, so completely ridiculous. Point I’m making is I’m sure if MM lived to her senior years she would have looked back on her younger years and thought, “I was absolutely beautiful” what the hell was I worrying about, completely ridiculous as well.
Definitely one of thee most beautiful women of all time. Natural beauty from the start, and whatever she did to enhance her beauty worked out well. I love her old movies ❤️ Gone too soon.
She was a He!
This is why I dislike how celebrities are used as the perfect examples of a body type. So much is unnatural and contrived, most of us aren't that contrived.
Oh my gosh.. one of my biggest insecurities is that my eyes aren't entirely evenly opened, especially when I smile. To know that Marilyn, one of the most beautiful women in the world, had that insecurity as well? I feel a lot more at peace about it 😂 Also, I am a Kibbe romantic, and it seems to me that us romantics tend to have a lot of the same insecurities. However, I see them on other romantics and I think they look lovely and give character, so I suppose we all shouldn't be so hard on ourselves.
It’s totally human to have asymmetries. We would look weird if our faces were completely symmetrical!
@@BlueOwlsFly yep. Seen some face lifts and cosmetic surgery "ideal" faces, it...odd and unsettling faces.
i trained myself to put my lower jaw a bit forward a few years ago i dont even think about it anymore i just do it, felt that one
I love how detailed you are and the way you explaine it, Interesting video Thanks :)!
This is most craziest thing I ever heard! Poor lady she had torture herself just to be an actress! ☹️
You say like she had no choice. And it was an absolute MUST for her to be an actress. She did it because that was her decision
@@asmrblizzz Exactly. I don’t really accept this notion that she was so victimized by Hollywood. She wanted to be a star so she did things to make that happen. She was just a really hard worker imo.
@@asmrblizzz yes indeed she was bored in her first marriage, she wanted stardom, and she choose to divorce and with fame, you have to take the rough with the smoothe
@@romystumpy1197 that s right..we also know how to be stars...but we count the risk
no wonder she was miserable. if i walked on eggshells every second of everyday with people constantly judging me, i'd be miserable too.
You explained that tragedy really smooth and sooting!
She was a sad beauty!
Your channel is the most useful channel on UA-cam for women trying to figure out how to improve their appearance. No one else has such valuable insights. I know that is a strange thing to comment under this video, but since watching this video, I have changed the way that I smile. I used to cheese really hard and almost close my eyes (which is my natural smile and it's great, I still smile this way when I'm laughing or when something makes me really happy) but I realized HOW MUCH prettier my smile is when I don't do that, and I give a more relaxed smile. I even made one man blush when I gave him my new softer smile, and that has never happened before 😂 It's incredibly useful information, but no one else has any real advice for how to change your presentation for the better other than what clothes to buy and what products to use. Thank you for sharing your artistic observations
Omg she did a lot of stuff to cover her insecurities