Was Sharpay Evans The Villain Or The Victim In High School Musical?
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- Let's throw it all the way back to east high to see if Sharpay was really the bad guy in the high school musical trilogy
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0:00 Intro
2:38 High School Musical
21:50 High School Musical 2
37:22 High School Musical 3: Senior Year
51:47 Conclusion
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She wasn't a villain nor a victim. She was an icon.
Reason why people love queen bees/mean girls: they usually are the more complex characters in their respective shows/movies
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@@Kurooganeko Yes, I also love Blair from Gossip Girl - she did some things that even I don't like, but she kept me watching through all 6 seasons by being a complex character I genuinely wanted to see develop.
@@cranberryrosebud Same here. She is my number 1 fav character of all time ♥ my girl goes through a lot
I agree
one thing i never understood from HSM 3 was why Grabriella had to leave early. Early acceptance does not mean you no longer have to finish high school it means that you have been accepted and secured your spot for the next semester before everyone else did, so why is she moving away she when she hasn't even graduated from high school yet. Even if that is what it meant why would you start college classes in the middle of the semester, you're not gonna pass any classes if you missed half a semester of assignments.
Technically she left during prom and before graduation classes were pretty much done I believe
@@ginapetolicchio2684 but still she hasn't graduated yet and whtevr classes she would have had at college would've been just about done aswell. It still doesn't make sense why they packed up and moved so early
It wasn't starting classes early, it was some kind of special program for the super smart kids to get a feel for the college before they start for realsies in August. My problem is that could've and should've been a summer program. Why did it have to start right then in April or May? Just wait until June or July.
Exactly why didn’t it start in July?!? It always bothered me. Speaking as a high school counselor here, students aren’t officially done until they receive their final transcripts which aren’t done until the beginning of June/middle of June because teachers need time to submit grades and school counselors need time to check it over to make sure all students have all their credits. With the amount of the students who went to East High, this would have taken a while. Colleges know this, so it is super unrealistic for colleges to start a program in the middle of April/May. An orientation or new student welcoming sure but not full on program!
Where I live, colleges offer a month worth of "leveling" classes for freshmen before their actual first semester stars in order for them to get used to the rythems of college life, more difficult majors or studies like med school have an even longer leveling course, with one set of classes usually at the tail end of the school year, in November, and the other right before the semester begins. Many senior high schoolers actually leave high school earlier to attend these classes, so I always thought that's what Gabriella was doing lol
The older you get you realize that Taylor & Chad were the villains in the 1st film. And all of them singing “were all in this together” makes no sense because they weren’t in it together 😂
How?
@@Pink_pr1ncess they wanted to break up Troy and Gabriella’s relationship so that they can focus on other things
This was the comment I was gonna make because yes! Taylor was a hater and Chad was just a dummy....(also a hater) I mean Troy gets EVERYONE a job and then when he gets the promotion all of a sudden everything he does is under scrutiny.
I also don't like Gabriella because she is flaky af, overracts and leaves Troy EVERY MOVIE.
@@reneall_day 💀💀💀 your not wrong. She was quick to leave the BS
I agree that Sharpay not going to a prestigious performing arts university feels wrong. It would even feel more in-character if her parents just bought her a spot. She didn’t need the scholarship anyways. She just would not settle with someplace local.
Actually I think her working for it really fleshes her character out. It's one of those moments that show she's genuine. She doesn't just want her spot bought because she loves fashion and theater and puts her heart and soul into both. When you love something so mucj, its only natural that you learn as much as you can. The learning process is apart of that love. Also, It's so Sharpay to return to East high just to spite Tiara. That is a level of petty that only sharpay would display. We also have to remember that she never stayed at east high. I think in "Sharpays fabulous adventure" she moved on go broadway, right?
Didn't she have her own movie where she goes to pursue a performance career in New York? Sharpay's Fabulous Adventure or something? Or do I have the lore wrong
If i remember right her parents in her movie were all about her working hard on her own amd achieving things or else staying home in the family bussiness
Right? It would have been better for her spin off story to not pass auditions bcs she doesn’t have enough preparation. Only high school drama club, but she got the part anyway. In a new unknown musical but apparently became super famous.
@@DayDreamyKatieshe did
the ending for Sharpay in HSM3 was insane like do you want me to truly believe that Sharpay didn’t apply to any other big performing arts schools and didn’t get in? BYE
She had the most talent too
@@x_void_princess_xexactly
@@thomasstory8251 gab is good but Sharpay is amazing literal Broadway material
@@x_void_princess_x YESSSSSS
@@thomasstory8251 sharpay she slays
The thing is is that it's like irritating that just because Sharpay is a "pretty in pink barbie girl" it like pigeonholes her as being the villain. Like she could still be a protagonist with these qualities, not every girl like that has to be the mean girl, and the thing is Sharpay has displayed passion and heroic qualities because of her passion with theater, and tbh she has the right to be upset if two newbies come out of nowhere and get everything she wanted without any experience at all.
Honestly after HSM3 I’d be mad if I were Sharpay too
@@Tronn9672 ditto, like after all of her hardwork and effort to make the musical happen, her ending didn't reward her for that at all
Lol she was a literal bully and homewrecker but ok
@@Tronn9672 yeah i get why sharpay would be upset
Right ? She could’ve been the Elle Woods of HSM but I forgot this is a DCOM so…
Damn I never realized how much tension the Ryan and Chad scene had till this video lol. Why did they swap clothes 😭
They were just in a silly goofy mood (as lovers)
They had sex.
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@@SebastianSeanCrowaven’t yall thought that since Chad was so invested in basketball to the point where he broke up his best friend and his girl to keep him focused on it - that he thought nothing good of musical theatre and those who do it?
In the beginning of the movie he insults sharpay in his own, interesting way~
So he prolly thought nothing that good to come from/ of her brother since sharpay was so mean at the time or thought sharpay outshined him to the point he didn’t think he was that/ as talented.
And apparently the uniform switch is like a sign of peace~ coexisting
in HSM she was an antagonist. HSM 2 she was a sympathetic antagonist. HSM 3 and SFA she was misunderstood supporting character/protagonist. I think they slightly changed her character as the series continued bc she was a popular character. but in the original movie she was meant to be the villain.
well in hsm, gabriella's and troys's friends did the plan to split them up, so i think they are the real antagonists
@@jihyunsof230 true and that was wrong of them, but it dosen't make them "true antagonists" especially since a lot of this was influenced by Sharpay, i.e. sending Taylor a list of Gabriella's achievements so she wouldn't audition. Wild cats had a bad moment that they eventually apologized for. Sharpay spent the entire movie trying to stop them auditioning bc she was jealous (and then went right back to doing it again the next movie might i add).
Chad and Taylor and the other fake friends were the real backstabbing villains in the first movie
Ironic how she kinda helped them even@@lovestadance
@@tylerkochman1007 which was influenced by Sharpay. they were wrong for that too, but let's be fr the story is that she wanted them to fail. their friends did it in a misguided attempt to keep them in their respective cliques.
ryan and kelsi 100% deserved the scholarship, like as good as sharpay did performing they got the scholarships for writing and choreographing the entire show, half the songs in the movie are canonically written by kelsi and the choreography was insane there's no way sharpay's performance could top that
She’s still incredibly talented and rich. She could’ve snatched a place tho lol
You should add in Sharpay’s Fabulous Adventure, I think Disney gave her the spotlight she deserved with the solo movie and her Broadway debut!
Hmmm is it worth revisiting?
@@Tronn9672 I say it is, the first and last songs are absolute bangers
@@cranberryrosebud we’re talking about the movie that had a giant subplot about 2 dogs falling in love set to the backdrop of Justin Bieber’s “Baby?” Did we see the same film?
@@maplepainttube8158 I said the first and last songs are bangers, not that the dog romance revolutionized cinema, alright.
Anyone who wants to hear more of Ashley Tisdale singing, and see Sharpay finally be rewarded for her hard work, has something to get out of SFA, and you can just skip the dog scene (because it’s literally of no consequence to anything else, tbh)
@sectorprimeI agree but I also feel that that movie adds on to sharpays story in a way that really develops here character and makes her more well rounded in the eyes of the fandom
kenny ortega saying years later that zeke and ryan were actually the intended pairing like booooooo chad was RIGHT THERE
WE WERE ROBBED!
Intended pairing for what?
Zeke and Ryan as a couple doesn't exist to me. I mean, the FRICKIN TENSION between Ryan and Chad is something else. And I love it all so much. I'm my mind it'll always be them who were meant to be together.
i can only see zeke with sharpay. chad and ryan were robbed tho
I believe Lucas (Ryan) said he played the character as gay with a crush on Zeke.
I was obsessed with HSM as a kid. It’s what inspired me to do musical theater. I read the books, and I remember in the books it was disclosed that Ryan had a crush on Gabriella during HSM 2!
Seriously, I felt disrespected FOR Sharpay because imagine dedicating your whole life to something you love just for two people who isn't as devoted in the slightest to come overshine you in the ONE moment you've been waiting for. Imagine how disappointing and hurtful that feels, I'd be pissed too😭
Too bad , that’s life, if someone is better than you, they’re just better than you, Sharpay liking theater doesn’t mean other people have to bow down to her
@@GoneWithTheScript exactly. I doesnt mean you have to be rude and someones documents, steal songs and overall be annoying.
Let’s be real, Sharpay wasn’t the antagonist in the 3rd movie. She stayed a lot more in her own lane and was much more pleasant compared to how she was the first 2 movies. The only character who could’ve been deemed as the antagonist in the 3rd movie was Tiara but then she was only an antagonist to Sharpay, nobody else. Her change in character arc was heightened even more in Sharpay’s Fabulous Adventure where her personality even became comparable to Gabriella due to becoming the protagonist.
Yes! What the third movie is leaning into the natural conflict the characters are facing (having to grow up and leave school) and you don’t really need an antagonist for that
@@abrilmolina5012if only Zeke was in Sharpay’s Fabulous Adventure. Sharpay liking Troy was so forced, she liked the idea of him and for shallow reasons. Her & Zeke would’ve been the real deal, hsm 2 should’ve had Sharpay getting over Troy and giving him & Gabriella her blessing and she and Zeke fall for each other
She stayed in her lane in the first one tho. At least she tried to. It’s not her fault her and Ryan have been working their butts off to get the part and Troy and Gabriella get it handed it on a silver platter. Troy and Gabriella are the true villains. They were even late and that didn’t matter they still were able to do it. To think Sharpay and Ryan are villains is criminal.
i remember being very frustrated because they made sharpay the bad one at the next movie everytime even tho she made peace with everyone at the ending scene of the former movie. imo she was a bad person(not a villain or victim entirely) who only wanted to benefit from everything but she deserved to got into julliard for sure
I remember asking my mom when I was little “why is she bad I thought she was good now” during one of the sequels where they made her bad or badish again
@@Salty_Oatmeal25 same i always wanted her to work with the rest so she can shine more with her performing more than the ''bad things'' she does
One thing I’ll never forget is the after credits scene of her running up and hugging that one basketball player talking about how much she loves his crème burlee
If there was one thing Sharpay was it was REAL! I always understood her motivations, villain or victim Sharpay was well thought out and played imo
Sharpay is more like a real complicated human being. She's sometimes good, sometimes bad. I know that this is just a movie, but despite her beeing the mean, popular and rich caricature, at the end she is both good and bad, more like a real person.
I'm absolutely love her even as a child, her songs are so bop i'm imagine 10 years old me have to pretend i hate her because my friends find her irritated and drama queen 😢
I love that even though this is a video about Sharpay, there’s a mini section about the COPIOUS amount of tension between Chad and Ryan.
i saw an edit on tiktok that basically showed the directors dropping the ball on having Kelsi and Jason together. it showed all their moments, the way he looks at her and now i’ll forever be more mad that put her w someone who wasn’t on her side for damn near 2 of the 3 movies😭
I’m still mad that Zeke and Sharpay didn’t end up together after ALL THEIR SCENES 😡
I kind of feel bad that Sharpay didn't even get a real shot at a performing arts school or conservatory. Theatre is her whole world. she's a great performer; even if the material she is given is bad she gives it her all. Even if she got a scholarship to a conservatory abroad, it would have made more sense.
In my personal opinion, Sharpay was a touch more victim than she was villain. And it all comes down to the characterization that they gave her in the second movie. She's clearly very spoiled and was raised to believe a certain way. That things should be her way or the highway. The fact that she (A teenager) can casually tell the manager of the country club how to treat each employee that was hired on is extremely telling. With that, keeping in mind that she is a teenager, emotions are running high. Everything feels like a life or death situation.
Two new kids coming along and hearing everyone talk about how amazing they are? That can make her scared that she's not good enough. So she does what her parents taught her, and get her way. She's passionate about this. This is her passion. This is what she wants to do for the remainder of her life. This is her career aspiration. To constantly have people snickering about her passion and whispering about how these two kids that aren't even all that into theater in the first place are so much better than her? Yeah, that's going to drive her to do extreme things.
In the second movie, yeah. Antagonist, but not villain. Most of the things she does, she can't exactly do on her own. The country club manager and her parents were the ones allowing it to happen because that is the environment she was raised in. When it came down to it, she was a girl who liked a boy and wanted to spend time with him. Wanted to show him her passions and get him passionate in it too because he had shown interest in the last movie. And she does let go of her obsession at the end and has a really sweet and vulnerable moment where she admits that it hurts that Troy is willing to do the talent show for his friends but not for her, which also lets the audience know that was what she wanted. She wanted him to want to do this stuff with her. And then she's completely cut out of the end performance. And sure, comeuppance. But that was a bit much.
Then we come to the third movie. No one else wanted to do the musical. She did. Kelsey just didn't want to work with her because "diva." Which is kind of funny because... Girl if you're going to work in the theater industry writing musicals, then you're going to work with plenty of divas and you're not going to have a say in it. You won't be able to write down your friends names and get them in instead. It felt like people were just mean to Sharpay in this movie for the sake of being mean to her.
Age is always the biggest thing to look at for these characters. And who knows? Maybe if Troy and Gabriella hadn't stolen the spotlight in the first movie, perhaps Julliard would've accepted Sharpay. Sharpay got no chance to shine for them. This was her passion and drive and she was relegated to a point and laugh character.
Ryan definitely deserved his place in Juliard though. I mean, he taught the kids to dance in the second movie. Kid's got talent.
I watched the whole thing and I gotta say this was an impressive and great analysis: you proved a lot of good points and things I kind of overlooked when watching were put into the focus here. Sharpay is definitely a very complicated character, but I agree: she still tried for the musical and was so passionate for theater so the fact that she didnt get that at the end is infuriating.
Glad you like it!
What i don't understand is- why couldn't Sharpay still go to Julliard? Who got the Julliard scholarship doesn't matter, Ryan and Sharpay's family is loaded, they could easily afford the tuition for both of them (and the family clearly cares about Sharpay in the least considering how much they spoiled her). Getting a scholarship does not equal admittance. There were a lot of things in the 3rd movie regarding college that were seemingly written by people who have never applied to college in hs or for scholarships. Another commenter mentioned the early admittance issue. Were the writers really struggling so much with the plot and conflicts that they literally had to make up how things work and punish Sharpay for existing while they were at it? They were grasping for straws so hard they got some that didn't even exist, i swear.
About Troy though: HE IS A PUSHOVER!!! He'll do anything to please people. He'll only feel comfortable with investing in his own true passions with there is someone with him doing it. He connected wityh Gabriela over music. He invested in the show because he knew he could win her over to do it with him. I think the only reasons why Troy plays baskeybal is because it makes his father happy and because he gets to hangout with a bunch of people who constantly validate him. THE TRUE VILLAIN IS TROY'S FATHERRR!!! Had that man allowed his son to invest in his true passions, maybe he would've ended up with Sharpay. A trophy husband? Sure, but had he grew in that club with her, he would be doing A LOT to please her. Just like Ryan. If not more. Once Sharpay started setting Troy up for something he was openly devoted and interested, he changed into Shapay's way VERY clickly!!!
EDIT- I also think he isdeeply repressed. Not in sexualiy, but in his ability to speak his mind. Music gave him that power. I do think he REALLY does grow into music very fast, bu he won't admit cause daddy expects him to be playing basketbal. And how could the biggest insecure pushover of all time ever go against daddy?
I think Troy FEARS Sharpay because of how comfortable she is with being herself and not apologizing for it. Because she goes after what she wants headstrongly. And Troy fears she could make him be like that. He believes himself not ready.
3:00 I’m convinced this is where every fanfic writer got their ideas from. The protagonist is DIFFERENT and reads at a party and celebrated for that. Honestly iconic and influential 💅
sharpay had a tone issue and boundaries issue, but i do understand her frustration with the theater department. but like… it’s also just high school 🤷♀️
And even tho I like how they completed her character development in her spin off, the low budged in that movie pains me but not as much as the dogs in love subplot. And I the boy that got with her was nice and supportive, just what she needed, and since he was a filmmaker they will become a power couple one day. And Ashley‘s vocal range really shines in the song I’m New York’s best kept secret. But the humiliation in HSM3 still unforgivable, I’ll take that spin off apology but I’m still ofended
Oh I totally agree Sharpay deserved sooo much better!
Gotta admit, she had character development tho by the end of the hsm 3! A lot of them had no character development at all
That’s so true she felt the most relatable even this she was still over the top of that makes sense
She only had character development because she ended up meeting someone who reminded her of herself and was just as bad as she is (her little freshman assistant that backstabbed her lol) which made her “turn over a new leaf” if you even want to call it that, which you barely can because there wasn’t much development but ok
Well Just like Chad didn’t support troy choosing the musical over basketball in hsm1 and him and Taylor trying to break them up, or when he was mad a Troy for wanting a scholarship that was going to help him conquer his dreams which Sharpay offered to help him with and didn’t get mad at him for wanting to get closer to his dreams but ok😭Everyone mad at sharpay and never talk about everyone else and how they treated each other like crap lol. Even though she worked real hard for what she wanted and didn’t have things handed to her like everyone else she still managed to congratulate everyone else for their accomplishments each movie.. Hsm 1 when Gabriella got the main role, sharpay congratulated her😁Hsm 3 congratulated her brother on getting the scholarship she wanted and didn’t have any jealousy towards them, now I’m not saying she wasn’t wrong, she did treat all of them wrong and was a narcissist but that doesn’t take away from the fact that her character changed the most (all 3 movies) more than any other character🫶🏽🫶🏽🙂🙂🙂Just stated my opinion since I have freedom of speech but ok💗💗
Tbf I think a lot of people forget that villains can be victims, heroes can be aggressors or sometimes they are just neither. Villain-Victim is not a dichotomy. Sharpay is not a kind person. She definitely grows somewhat to the end, but she does evil stuff. But in a way a lot of mean things she does to main characters are provoked by her being a victim of a circumstances. Being constantly shoved away from doing what she actually loves by people who don’t really care that much is very frustrating /at least/ for even good and kind people. So yeah, she is a villain in second and partly first movie. Yeah, she is a victim in all three too with various degrees. She is both at the same time and also neither.
I think a lot of the reason why Sharpay is so beloved lately and people try to reclaim her is a secretly good person, is that out of the main characters she is actually the one who has to learn and grow and get more dimensions to her. Like, what are the character arcs of Troy and Gabriella really? Not as plot points with whole ‘I want to sing but also want to play basketball’, but their personalities? They literally practically don’t grow or change other than maybe getting just less childish. Kind of all. Meanwhile Sharpay gets to go through so many ups and downs and we see her at her lowest, and we see her trying to get to her highest, and she takes all her losses at the end of the movies like a champ, which is honestly an undeniably admirable trait of hers - being able to accept the loss at the end of the day and try again. It’s hard to NOT root for her.
So yeah, trying to make her seem better than she is and the whole ‘actually caring for Troy’ part is pretty delusional. But it comes from the place of just wanting to let characters get better and grow from their mistakes.
There was a lot of movies at the time where are protagonists are either already good at everything somehow, pretty AND already a good person or protagonists are supposed to be good but then you look at them as an older person and they are meaner than the antagonist. And listen, neither is a bad character trope when treated right, nor I am saying that Troy and Gabriella are not enjoyable as characters. It’s just they are not as fascinating because they kind of already have everything they need.
Anyway, Sharpay is awesome, I love her.
Well said. I think Sharpay is a good character but I still think other mean girls like those from Nickelodeon are pretty bad
Sharpay actually has her own movie where no one else does. Sharpays fabulous adventure.
to me sharpay is just the most nuanced character and the most realistic? she's insecure and sometimes lashes out bc of it and especially considering she's still a teenager, nothing she does is that out of the norm imo. she's no angel but she isn't evil either
Do "jump in", I feel like that's a Disney movie that didn't get a lot of love.
It definitely is criminally underrated, I'll always be saying that. The soundtrack is sick. And the movie itself is so good too, certainly one of my favorites.
I recently rewatched these movies and the amount of plot holes, unnecessary drama and poor character growth irked me. Sharpay was just a rich theatre nerd who had a crush on the high school jock but was able to become friends with him later on. Out of all the HSM characters she had the best growth and did help a lot of other characters.
Plus HSM 3 ‘I Want It All’ is a damn masterpiece.
She didn’t just have a crush on Troy. She tried to break apart Troy and Gabriella. She also used Troy and was manipulative
I've never been huge on hsm, except for the 2nd movie, and i can't even remember watching the 3rd, but i want it all has been my JAMMM since i was a little kid!!! To this day i put this on in the car with my friends and just belt it, cause i know all the lyrics. It's incredible!!
Sharpay is just the driving force for the plot, she isn’t a villain, but more or a misunderstood antagonist, the true villains are the main character’s friends egos (Taylor and Chad straight up backstabbed their ‘best friends’ in HSM1, Troy got a big head in 2 and 3 was just ‘let’s punish Sharpay because reasons’)
I always liked her cause out of all of them, she was most human. Talents, flaws and all. Like you've mentioned, others mostly have only one thing about them. She always seemed human to me, more than rest of the characters
From my perspective, the main reason Sharpay is seen as a villain isn't really the characters fault, it's the fact that she was never given a full character arc throughout all three movies. Sharpay grows through the course of each movie but goes back to the same starting point with the same spoiled attitude and antagonistic goals at the beginning of each sequel. Had they made her upset about losing the part at the end of HSM 1, the next movie would've made a lot more sense. I understand that they most likely couldn't have done that when creating the first film because they didn't know if they would be making a sequel/sequels, but I just think of how much of a better character she would've been had the ending of the first movie been planned out better.
Sharpay doesn’t need growth. It’s realistic for some privileged rich white girl to be a jerk and a bad person
I think for HSM Sharpay is antagonistic, but in a more justified way. The fact that the musical will likely have shows on the same day as basketball games and decathlons is important, it shows they aren't completely committed to being the leads in this musical. The fact that Gabrielle DURING THE CALLBACK says "I can't [perform], not in front of all of these people" just shows that she wasn't really ready to be the main character in the musical where she would,,, you know HAVE TO PERFORM (its not that serious but that bit ALWAYS annoyed me lolol)
In HSM 2 she's a villain, but I think Troy is really the primary antagonist, he's doing it to himself because at any moment he could've said no to her, he could've cancelled plans with her, he could've communicated better with his friends. I mean she's bad but he's right there brushing his friends off and ditching his girlfriend without any warning, only apologies after the fact. The worst move Sharpay made was cancelling her performance with Ryan, but as a theater kid with a theater kid brother, let me tell you: if my brother pulled what Ryan did to Sharpay (switching the songs) on me??? We'd be F I G H T I N G. I mean,,, we would've already fought if I cut him from a performance but STILL. Ryan forming a new act to defeat her in the talent show felt so much more on brand than Sharpay's "okay, so you took my performance I've been preparing all summer for five minutes ago, but I'm over it- ryan you really deserve this award!" moment at the end imo
Final movie kind of showed how Over Them™ Sharpay was, for me. Her and Troy's "when's the big game?" "yesterday." conversation exemplified for me that, whatever she ended up doing, it was for herself. I think this movie just showed that Gabriella and Troy (and all of the wildcats besides Sharpay, Kelsi and Ryan) think of theater as secondary to their relationships, their academics, their athletics- whatever it is in the moment, they'll choose that over the musical if theres the slightest pushback. There was also this sort of "oh she's excited for this, let's all point and laugh when it goes poorly for her" moment from the Wildcats when her big number gets ruined by Rocketman(?) where they seem like the real antagonists of the movie imo.
you didn't ask but I HAD to get all that out 😅
troy was straight up groomed and manipulated in hsm 2. to call him the antagonist when sharpay was the one orchestrating most of it is really messed up.
I will say that in the second movie she absolutely abused her power as the daughter of Troy’s employer to get him to do whatever she wanted. He might not have felt okay to say no because there was so much pressure about college and here she was dangling these amazing opportunities over him. It was also terrible of his friends and Gabriella to hold him having nice things against him when he literally got them all jobs, but no, that wasn’t enough for them. I understand being upset that someone is acting differently towards you but they seemed to completely lack any empathy towards him the entire movie. I realize that they were all high school aged characters though so having that level of emotional maturity might be asking a lot.
Regarding the high school theatre: mine was almost exactly like that. HUGE, had a musician pit, professional lighting, a foyer, etc. That being said, it was a professional proscenium stage due to Bob Guess donating the money for it (and getting his name on the building) - that's definitely not in a public school budget.
Unpopular opinion for some reason but Sharpay was without a doubt the villain of the high school musical franchise. She was mad a Troy and Gabriella for getting the lead in the school play when that wasn’t their fault. She had to pay for Troy’s love and when he didn’t even like her. However, I’ll give Sharpay grace because in the final film she actually doesn’t do anything horrible aside from being a lil selfish. Still tho there is a villain in High School Musical and it’s her and people don’t want to admit that because they think they’re being edgy or different by suggesting she’s some sort of hero or they can’t fathom loving a villain for being a villain which is ok.
There's a few things I'd like to point out about HSM1. First of all, they're all teenagers, and teenagers are dumb, I can totally see someone being mocked for singing, specially at a musical. In fact, I've seen boys made fun of just because they liked HSM because is supposed to be a "girls movie" or whatever, so yeah, being afraid to admit to liking something is totally understandable.
Second, about Sharpay changing the mood of the song. It's hard to say if that's ok because it depends on the context of the musical. Is that song supposed to be sung in a more emotional part of the musical? If yes, then I can see why changing it could make the musical worse, even if the song is a banger anyway.
Third, academic decathlons requires as much training and studying as any other activity, so I'd imagine that the same problems that Troy had of conciliation are also there for Gabriela, even if not explicitly shown.
Fourth, as stupid as their plans were, I can totally see Gabriela, being a teenager, getting sad about what she heard Troy said and taking it at face value, specially because Gabriela is often portraited as being very insecure and as a insecure person myself I can say it doesn't take much for that to happen.
Fifth, the main reason everyone was so on their toes about Troy getting into theater is because there's a very important game comming up and Troy is the star of the team, so they want him to be 100% focused on the game. I'm sure if Troy got into theater during the offseason people wouldn't have minded as much.
Sixth, yeah, their friends were assholes, and the movie did in fact highlight that.
Seventh, HSM songs are a banger to this day bro! Love it!
Finally, I do consider Sharpay as a villain on HSM1. I mean, she did try to intimidate and sabotage Troy and Gabriela even before they joined the auditions, which is not something a good person would do, period. And yes, she did come to terms with not being the lead of the show, but only after all hope was lost. IMO, had Sharpay spend less time worrying about Troy and Gabriela and more time training she may even had beaten them, who knows, it would be a good leasson to take from it at least.
Overall I think the show gave a very good message for people to follow their dreams and not stick to the stereotypes people associated them from. Great movie and great video so far!
So on your point about Troy, especially in the song stick to the status quo, it didn't seem like the problem was him just doing the musical would distract from the basketball game, it was that he as an athlete doing musical theatre is not okay. So I do think regardless of when the musical was everyone would still have a problem
I disagree, Sharpay is not a villain. Her years of hardwork were being thrown in her face at HSM1 by people who had other hobbies. Her entire life was based on theater, it was her joy and her genuine mission in life. She overreacted in the situation but that doesn’t make her a villain.
they all literally make a whole song and dance about how song and dance isn't their thing...
The real villains of High School Musical wasn't necessarily Sharpay, Gabriella or Troy imo, it's the Wild Cats. They're so mean and manipulative for no reason
Sharpay in HSM2 was not a good person. Going after another girl’s boyfriend, removing your own BROTHER from the number that you both worked on to sing with a guy who doesn’t like you, using your privilege to get everyone fired like I was so happy when Gabriella said “What’s the prize? Troy??” Because that was so real. Even at 12 I thought she was delusional towards Troy. With that said tho, it is criminal the way they treated her character in the 3rd movie. She deserved way better at the end
I think that no one is particularly a "villian", but they are all dramatic teenagers
"it beat out Sports" had me rolling on the floor, especially with the captions!!
The “They’re FUCKING EACH OTHER!” Got me every damn time! 😂😂😂
One thing ill never forget about the beginning of high school musical is they were so mysterious about it before it aired so we had no idea what it would be like. I had to watch it air bc i needed to know what it was (mind you this is 2010s)
For HSM2 I don't have that much to talk, but it is a weird movie. Sharpay is a villain for sure, no doubt about it. The bigger issue IMO is how Troy's friends treat him. Sure, he doesn't have time for them, but can you really blame him? He has the chance to maybe get a shot at a very good college membership and hang out with professional basketball players. If someone ditched that opportunity to hang out with me I'd bash them in the head for being an idiot. Sure, if they're not happy there they can leave, like Gabriela did, but don't put the blame on Troy, he's just looking after his future. They can catch up and play baseball, or whatever, later.
AGREED!!
"oh they was hitting it raw-" TOOK ME OUT LMFAOO
i think the discourse around sharpay being the victim stems from the fact that we’re all looking back at how super feminine women in media were (and still are) treated. people look at sharpay as this talented and driven girl who gets one upped by an nlog who doesn’t really care about theatre
I always wanted a double pink locker! She was iconic and the integer characters just didn’t get her😔
Now thinking back to when Troy broke into her house and climbed up onto her balcony, it reminds me of that scene in Scream when Billy climbed through Sidney's bedroom window.... 😬🤣
The director of that film, Wes Craven, also directed A Nightmare On Elm Street that features the exact same scene with Johnny Depp and Heather Langenkamp.
My Hich School did High School Musical for our musical (heh) and I was told I would make a good Sharpay. I hadn't seen HSM since I was a kid so initially I was a bit insulted that people saw me as the villain character, but now I understand it was a conpliment. Sharpay is extremely iconic, and so am I /j
10:06 yes the theatre in my school had its own building but was still vastly under funded. So much that the year after I graduated they completely shut down drama class and the only plays that were put on were ENTIRELY self funded
I think she's mostly an antagonist and really egotistical. I wouldn't go as far as calling her a "villan" or a "victim", she's just an entertaining character. I do think that people saying Troy and Gabriella were the "real villans" are definitely wrong, though.
My fave part:
1) Not understanding why Troy is so conflicted about the arts vs basketball- cuz seriously why?
2) Ryan and Chad are gay for each other… ‘nough said.
"i keep forgetting troy has a mom" lmao I'm rewatching this w my boyfriend (who is seeing it for the first time) and every movie he's like "who's that" when troy's mom shows up
I’ve always loved her😂😂❤️, no matter how much they tried to make Gabriella the favourite girl.
In the stage version they make it much more clear that chad and Taylor are the villains which makes sense I mean how many theatre kids want to portray sharpay as a villain when you can put yourself in her shoes so much easier than the jock or nerd
Waiiiitttt 😭😭the chad and Ryan thing got me I never looked at like thattt 😂😂😂😂 omgggg I can’t unsee it now 😭😭 and omg the songggsss🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥this series is just a staple of my childhood 😌😭💕💕🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾
as someone who’s whole passion is the performing arts - other ppl taking opportunities that you’ve been working for your whole life can feel rlly bad and so i feel bad for her to an extent because like seriously she worked her entire life.
Zac Efron started singing for real with his own voice from High School Musical 2 to 4.
4?
there IS no 4
you mean 2& 3
There isn’t a 4th 😂
21:29 “what time is it? It’s summer time! It’s our vacation!” Still comes to mind in a lot of moments of “what time is it” all these years later lol
One of the biggest things: I remember Kelsey giving song to Troy and Gabriella bc sharpey makes the ballads into pop songs
edit: I always thought it was unfortunate Sharpay didn't get into Juliarts, her family has money to pay and she deserves going there AND SHE GOT SCREWED SO BAD IN THIS ONE
Okay but there is no denying that Sharpay's outfits EATTT
i went to a magnet school for theater- the schools whole thing was the arts. our stage and auditorium wasn’t even a quarter of that one lmao
Fun fact they were going to cut “the boys are back”, but it cost so much to shoot that they had to leave it in.
You resumed all my thoughts about HSM3 and Sharpay. THANK YOU!!!
I'm glad you liked it!!
My first year in Theatre/Drama was really fun and I heard from my senior student stage manager that she had written and the previous drama teacher had produced her play that year, i heard from all of the older students that it was the best year
The class with the car is definitely a shop or welding class. My high school has 2 whole buildings dedicated to welding and woodworking, and the kids in those classes are always messing with old cars and seeing what they can make happen. I’ve never been into it personally but it’s prevalent enough at my school that I can definitely recognize the basics.
She was a villain. She was always trying to sabotage anybody she could to get what she wanted. As much as we can sympathize with her she still did those things. People can say it's because troy and gabriella were newcomers and just took everything she worked hard for, but her brother also worked hard and she didn't hesitate to throw him under the bus.
Even in the song 'I want it all', she said, "they're gonna love me" and Ryan had to correct her. It showed who she truly was for.
I feel the only way she wouldn't be a villain is if she stopped sabotaging people. Funny enough, her doing sabotaging people always led to her own downfall. Especially in HSM3 when she could've gotten a whole performance to herself.
i voted for a billy ray cyrus cameo cause i thought how funny would it be if he actually won and got the cameo
She’s not a victim or a villain. She’s a teenage girl
Teenage girls can definitely be both, especially victims. Not disagreeing with your main point, but none of these three things are mutually exclusive.
I love how he comments on the size of the highschool and what's available like auto shop. My highschool and almost every highschool in my area is the size of this one with an auto shop to learn about cars. The youtuber must have gone to a much smaller school out somewhere.
I love Sharpay, but she was the villain.
I figured the point of asking for a more stripped down song is because the musical is a romance. So it doesnt matter if the uptempo is better if it doesnt fit the tone of the moment. Also, the Romeo annd Juliet thing wasnt an incest joke. They both always go for the leads. So if the show was Romeo and Juliet, they would both audition for those roles
Also, I dunno, I'm not a huge fan of people forcing changes on writers. If the show was made to be sweet and soft, Sharpay coming in and telling her that they would do it her was is just rude.
The thing that bugs me about people who go "Sharpay is the victim" is that they often go on about how she should get every single lead role because she wants it and works hard for it and is the most passionate. And, I'm not going to argue that she doesn't work hard or is underserving of a lead role, but like, what part of the professional theater world do you think Sharpay is gonna last long with if she has a melt down every time she fails to get a lead role in a Broadway show? Also you don't bully the composer, you're shooting yourself in the foot if you make yourself a nightmare for composers to work with. It's probably a good thing Sharpay missed out on some theater roles in high school so she had experience with let downs and didn't end up on a 7 o'clock news story for murdering her co-star the first time she doesn't get the lead in a professional production.
Though I still very much love love love Sharpay. Also agreed she's not really an antagonist in the third movie at all, and got the short end of the stick there.
I never liked (or really watched) these movies as a kid, as I was too manly and quirky to enjoy popular things, but revisiting them now fr does make me appreciate the camp of it all so much more.
Reviewing Sharpay's sense of 2006 fashion alone makes me admire it so much more than I did as a kid lmao. Iconic.
For the Ryan and Kelsi subplot in HSM3, a lot of fans headcanon that it’s mlm/wlw solidarity and they go to prom as friends and I’m here for it
You know what? Considering I went to prom with friends, that makes WAY more sense than them force dating 😅
My high school didn’t even have a theatre. It had two gyms, a small one and a big one.
at my school once every two years cast and director (the drama teacher) wrote the school play, it was really fun but i cannot imagine one single person doing it, kelsi was extremely underrated
10:10 I went to a really well funded hugh school. Our theater program was award winning, but it was heavily self funded as were many of the programs so there was definitely an animosity between different things because while the football team could self fund a lot they got a massive new field despite losing every game for 35 years. The marching band won the state championship and lost funding and had to reduce the number of buses we got to transport the band to games. The theater program one year had to put on a Christmas Carol (in the public domain) because they didn't have the funds for any other shows, but our 35 year losing football team got that freaking stadium. It's been nearly 20 years and I'm still mad.
Omg can I just say you're so nice to listen to. I'm almost through the whole video and I didn't think I'd last this long
i just finished watching your video about Tori & Victorious, and this one auto-played right after, i just wanted to say the fact this video start with a "we can ALL" is very funny and makes a good transition lol
My favorite character is Sharpay and I feel like she needed more in the movies. I related to her as a child because I loved to perform like she did and it gave me a confidence boost. I could see it from her perspective and I was robbed the chance in high school because I let my bullies win.
She probably has a hard time dealing with things at home with her dad and it is painted as “not as bad” because we are looking at it from Troy and Gabriella’s perspective. I also believe they are the popular ones more than Sharpay.
I just discovered this channel and subscribed. Thanks for this video, I love Sharpay
Movie 1 their friends are the real villains. Movie 2 Troy was the villain bc he didn't have to be doing all that when all sharpay asked for was a duet and ditching his friends was his own choice. Movie 3 Disney was the villain for pushing Ryan and that lesbian piano player into the closet 😔 real talk tho I think it's just annoying that sharpay was treated like she was so evil when she wasn't doing all that. Also the fact that she relearned the same lesson every movie but we still had to sit there for the next one and reset our brains into acting like she is an unreasonable scheming villain. Why did they make us like her then?
in hsm 2 troy was manipulated by sharpay. everything that happened with troy happened bc sharpay wanted to isolate troy from his friends & win him over. & troy didn’t even do anything wrong. his friends were really just upset at the special treatment he was getting, but he didn’t ask for that, sharpay did.
i think she’s just a likable villain, but it is annoying that troy & gabriella’s friends aren’t called out for their bullshit too. (& disney for pushing the lesbian piano player in the closet😤🤬)
Um let’s call that last part: Ryan and Kelsi go to prom as Friends 😅
i cannot believe the humuhumunumunumuapua'a slander...yes it's insensitive but the random spanish stuff in bop to the top was basically the same and the song is silly but ridiculously catchy
i feel like loads of the times characters are pushed to do things we know they wouldnt do, like ironman sacrificing himself lmao, like please he would never do that, also here Sharpay would never go out of her way to fuck with ppl if she doesnt get anything out of it, in this case if anything she was fighting for the unjust casting that happened, she would never be mean just cuz but she is pushed to be a mean girl
You likely didn’t see Humahuma till now because they removed it from DVDs and doesn’t show it on Disney channel (probably because of the cultural appropriation and people found it offensive). I noticed this once when I was younger and it was running on Disney channel. I watched the DVD a bajillion times but I noticed that they cut immediately from the dinner to like a different scene and it clicked that it prolly got removed 😭
Interesting, yes I only ever watched this movie on Disney Channel so seeing those scenes were surprising lol
Your channel is amazing ♡ i hope you upload more in the future 😊
When you asked about our theatres. In the UK we just have a little hall where everyone has to sit on there butts on the floor. Haha
I just rewatched the highschool musicals! So crazy thanks for the video
Glad you liked it!
My biggest problem with the plan in the first movie is that there's a basketball game for the varsity team that tips off at 3:00...........not even colleges do that on weekdays, why would a high school do that
The theatre where Troy and Gabriella auditioned was my high school's auditorium room.
im glad this is how i decided to spend my friday night. i didnt know i needed a 53 minute video about high school musical but i did.
"look at his house" and that house is supposed to be in ALBUQUERQUE lmao
His parents can DEFINITELY afford his tuition.
I love this video and the format honestly. Interacting to get more of u on my fyp!
glad you liked it!
I am so glad you still shouted out “ ~ TROOOYYYYYYYYY ~ “
The thing that got me about What I’ve Been Looking For from Ryan and Sharpay is that Sharpay didn’t sing lead, she technically sang harmony!
Let's not forget her own spin off
Sharpays fabulous adventure