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They fail to mention that they could have been stranded on the islands. You can’t take a huge ship up to tiny islands, you take the row boat. My idea is they forgot to set anchor on the ship, went on the island with the dingy, the ship drifted and they got stranded and no one thought to check and see if they were on the island.
My thought exactly. Would be interesting if they did some archeology today, in the areas where a possible landing would take place compared to where the ship was situated.
@@theredqueen2283 Well, one of the other takes I've seen pointed out that those who scrutinized the log book of the Celeste... realized that she was abandoned while close enough to the Azores that one could in fact get to the Azores by a ship's launch. She was found far from the Azores... but she'd been drifting for weeks at that point. which is a detail of the story that makes it so much less mysterious. Getting in a rowboat on the high seas is a fool's errand unless truly desperate. But if you're within sight of land? suddenly it's far less ridiculous.
@@marhawkman303 drifting for weeks? But according to this video, the last log entry was dated "10 days earlier" before the Mary Celeste was intercepted. So just over two weeks. If they purposely left the log behind in case someone chanced upon the ship, why not write the reason for abandoning ship? To me it suggests a last minute dash - some papers and navigational instruments were taken but not much else. It's very peculiar.
The Mary Celeste was a brigantine about 100 ft long and weighed about 200 tons and had a crew of 11. It was not, by any stretch of the imagination, a "HUGE SHIP".
As Morehouse and his crew approached the Mary Celeste, they noticed that the ship was in good condition and that there were no visible signs of damage or distress. However, when they boarded the vessel, they found that it was completely abandoned. The lifeboat was missing, and there was no sign of the crew or passengers. All of their personal belongings and the ship's documents were still on board, and there was no evidence of a struggle or violence. The mystery of the Mary Celeste has puzzled investigators and historians for more than a century. There have been many theories about what happened to the crew and passengers, including piracy, mutiny, and a freak wave. Some people have even suggested that the ship was visited by aliens or that it was the victim of a supernatural event. However, no one has been able to provide a definitive explanation for the disappearance of the crew. The case remains one of the most famous maritime mysteries of all time.
I mean there are so many potential possibilities. Did a crucial component of the ship break down? Did they run out of food and take the life boat to a nearby island they saw off in the distance? Maybe they took a day trip to check something out they saw in the water, or took the life boat to go visit a nearby ship crew on another vessel, and somehow the boat drifted away. Another possibility is they were trying to fish from the lifeboat. Maybe they lost power aboard their ship. Maybe they hit something ant thought the ship was going to sink.
@@buffalokay It is difficult to say which theories about the Mary Celeste have not been ruled out, as the true cause of the ship's abandonment and the disappearance of the crew remains a mystery to this day. Despite extensive research and investigation, there is no concrete evidence to support any of the theories that have been proposed about what happened to the Mary Celeste and her crew. Some of the theories that have been proposed over the years include the possibility that the ship encountered some sort of mechanical failure or malfunction, that the crew encountered some sort of external threat, such as pirates or a sea monster, or that the crew abandoned ship for some other unknown reason. However, none of these theories have been supported by concrete evidence, and it is likely that we will never know the true cause of the Mary Celeste's abandonment and the disappearance of the crew.
Story Time: I once made a dumb rookie mistake while hiking in 'true wilderness' in Wyoming. No city or town or house for 100 miles in any direction. After setting up a campsite I thought "I really want a drink I left in the cupholder of my vehicle" so I left my campsite to hike miles back to my vehicle to get said drink thinking I could 'remember the way pretty well' no compass, no map, no phone (no service anyway), and I thought I was 'pretty close by' my vehicle. In reality I was miles away, a full day of hiking away, and all of the mesas looked the exact same, suddenly the sun went down and all I had was a single flashlight with me. I had left my emergency hiking pack I never hike without at my campsite. And I remember thinking "I could easily get lost and never found out here if I don't find my vehicle or campsite in the next 24 hours." (No rivers, lakes, ponds, no water in this area) That was the first time I ever thought "This is it. This is how it all ends. You fucked up badly enough no one will ever know what happened to you for years." it was such a last minute bizarre thought too "I want that drink in the cupholder". No one would have ever known that was the motivation for such a stupid simple disappearance. Long story short I found my campsite again and vehicle after much effort to establish where I thought I must be given an error in heading. And I feel like the Mary Celeste captain must have made some hideous rookie mistake like that without any second thought.
It wasn't unusual for a ship to have TWO logbooks - the captain's log, and the master's, or first mate's log. It's the Mate's log that was found, which suggests that the captain may have taken his log book with him.
I think DNA evidence and historical eyewitnesses account that the European settlers moved and interbred with the natives, as there were numerous stories of next wave European explorers encountering mative americans that were particularly fair of skin with multiple different eye colors.
@@tacitus6384 As the Eastern Indians of North America have large amount of DNA already from Europe that would be hard to tell. But the testing of area was interesting. Early arrivals speculated survivors of Atlantis and some could pass for European and not just near there. Now the major arguments is did they come over with boats running along the ice bridge between Europe and North America that existed at same time as land bridge on the other side or as European DNA found with one group very far into Siberian Asia did they cross the land bridge and continue on to the East. But just the evidence of the premade buildings brought over from England being disassembled and neatly stored indicates they left deliberately so moving in with natives most likely. It has been made into more mystery than it deserves. With no signs of struggle and the complex task of taking the buildings down and the name of local tribe carved into a tree it almost certain thinking they were abandoned they moved into the tribe as no ship had arrived the next years thanks to war between England and Spain. And then that part of the tribe moved off till knowledge of them being there lost. It the several years no ship returned that makes the moving in with a tribe a natural result. One sinking yes but several considering the amount of time passed they must have thought they were abandoned and forgotten. And thus why no attempt to contact the whites when they did show up again by then it was just the decedents of the original group fully tribal identity by then with no desire for contact. Recent claim by African American group that they are descended having mixed with the tribe seamed plausible with the old records they had. Their oral history recorded some generations later indicates that story. At the very least if false the fraud done very long ago and for some reason never reaching outside of the group. Many instances other places of native tribes interconnecting with freed or escaped blacks. The fair skin again though actually all over eastern North America there is very strong evidence now that Europeans came over. One Northern tribes first story of them arriving on their lands state whites lived there.
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@@milferdjones2573 Yeah, the best clue we have about Roanoke is that they had a plan for what to do if they didn't get supplies, integrate into one of the local tribes. The twist seems to be that the tribe they liked most... apparently relocated due to a war and it's not really clear where to.
I subscribe to the theory that the red oak barrels leaked and caused the fumes to be unbearable, so the captain set the ship up to air out, ordered everyone onto the life boat tied to the ship and while they waited for the ship to air out, the rope was cut untied or otherwise unteathered and they all watched on their lifeboat watching the mary celeste sail away without them. No one grabbed any of their personal belongs because why would they when they are gonna be back on the ship in an hour.
That is the accepted theory as to the disappearance of the crew. If you have worked with Denatured Alcohol or Acetone then you would realize that excellent ventilation is needed. Otherwise, you get very lightheaded... So when poisoned by their cargo, the crew vented the hold and sought fresh air in the lifeboat/launch. Since they were not thinking clearly because of the fumes, they tied the rope poorly to the Celest and found themselves alone in the sea with their ship sailing away without them. And once they perished from inadequate water on their small lifeboat/launch, they were no longer there to keep it afloat & so their bodies were never found...
I think your theory is quite logical. It would certainly have been extremely difficult to survive in the lifeboat without adequate supplies on the rough open ocean. I agree with you Onelove 🌊
So why would they have taken most of the ships papers and navigational instruments with them to the lifeboat for the couple of hours it would take to air out the ship?
@@sarahpiaggio2693 I’m thinking that maybe just incase they couldn’t return to the ship. They would still be able to have some form of navigation to indicate where they might be on the ocean 🧭
@@sarahpiaggio2693 If you were planning to sit behind the ship for a few hours, you'd probably still like to know where its going, right? It would allow them to keep track and ensure they know where they're at.
When about 8 years old I went with my parents to Ohio to visit relatives. In the back of their back yard began a forest. Having grown up in Los Angeles I never saw a real forest and was fascinated. I walked alone (I really didn't know anyone in Ohio) for a couple hours and the forest opened up into someone else's backyard. Then realizing that is not where I belonged I turned around and walked back to the house I started at. I could not at that time understand why everyone was so upset. In total I walked 4 to 5 hours alone through a forest with no map or compass or understanding of East or West or any understanding of direction or coat or any type of preparation and fortunately did not get lost.
@@sphillips6357 Yeah... it's not just the forest, but the people in it too. I imagine an 8 yr old walking alone in the forest is a goldmine for an organ seller lol
7:00 - "The cargo of industrial alcohol was untouched" 13:53 - "[the spilled alcohol theory] would tie in with the nine _empty_ barrels that were found on board" So which was it?
Likely “untouched” means no obvious signs of tampering. They were not pried open or moved, just… empty. Which is why the wood being different matters. If it was open then it could seem tampered and wouldn’t be strange
@@Merlin_Ambrosius_1100 7:03 - _"...which ruled out pirates or blind alcoholics as an obvious cause"_ so the intent of "untouched" was demonstrably that it was _still there_ since the implication was that it had remained undrunk/stolen by pirates or blind alcoholics... I'm pretty sure it's just a mistake.
I think i have to play a bit Poirot here and ask, how many of the proposed answers to this have considered the psychology involved? The captain's young daughter being on board could very well have helped him to make a more hasty decision than he otherwise would have. My guess would be that the bad weather the day before the last log entry directly or indirectly disturbed the barrels enough that the red oak ones started leaking overnight(or perhaps leaking -more- or getting spread out faster due to water taken in from the bad weather, also potentially causing already leaked alcohol to spread faster and further), shortly after the log entry, this is discovered, the crew gets in the lifeboat as the captain not quite panics, after opening the hatches to air out the fumes, ties the boat to the ship while waiting for that, and then the increased oxygen content in the mix from said airing allows it to be extremely easily ignited(possibly the increased air circulation causes it to reach a lit candle or similar) and explodes, severing the towline in the process, or possibly even damaging the lifeboat and the people in it(and very likely stunning them enough that they cannot react quickly enough)...
Definitely agree on the psychology angle. The captain had his entire family onboard. If there was danger on the ship, he likely did not think clearly. If the barrels were leaking, inhaling the fumes would have only made it worse
@@TheBlueScarecrow That assumes that there's absolutely zero possibility that something rare happened or that someone made a mistake. Just because it shouldn't happen or because it's more than a million to one odds does NOT mean that it does not happen, just that it's RARE. Or like the sketch by Tage Danielsson about probability(truth, sanning vs probability, sannolikhet), when something is so improbable it shouldn't have happened, clearly it never did happen, except for the fact that it DID. He made it about Harrisburg, but the same argument could be made for many other "impossible" events. ua-cam.com/video/y46esp5xRDA/v-deo.html
@@DIREWOLFx75 Yeah, the Alcohol leak thing was actually proven TRUE. Some of the barrels were in fact completely EMPTY when the cargo was off-loaded. Apparently the construction of that batch of barrels was defective. most of the cargo was in other barrels not from a defective batch. So it IS true that there was a leak in the cargo.
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It would be interesting to learn the prequel to this story: What were the circumstances surrounding the commissioning and building of this ship? Was she built of trees from an unlucky forest? Was a curse put on her by the wife of one of the workmen, killed due to the negligence of the monstrous owner? That sort of thing. But maybe the records aren't specific, since no one knew this was going to be such a strange ship. Your channel is brilliant, btw.
WOW! Unlucky Forest. Travis Walton knows first-hand about unlucky forests. Fairies live in trees. You can Google that. And Travis Walton was hired to clear out all the dead wood. The Fairies didn't like that and they abducted him and put him through hell for a week. He's lucky they brought him back.
Unlucky trees? There was a fire place on board. That sounds like the Captain's cabin may have had a carbon monoxide issue. A few captains died. Possibly of related CO issues like heart attack or wot not. Maybe the whole vessel was affected below deck too. If they thought like they would have back then (like you with your unlucky forest) they could have put the CO poisoning down to a curse and gone in the life boat already disorientated. The Captain was off course too. Was he disorientated too? They were at the same latitude as Spain in December in Winter. The weather was poor. The fireplace was mentioned in a newspaper article about the disappearance. It was probably burning. I bet the issues with the ship's history occurred mostly in Winter too. I came up with my theory before I cross referenced the date to check if it was Winter and it was. It seemed unimportant at first and thus did not acknowledge it. But after I came up with my prognosis I checked the latitude and date. This kind of feedback after coming up with the theory is affirmation that a theory is on point. This type of after the fact affirmation will continue the further you look into it. CO is a flammable gas too. It could have mixed with the alcohol fumes. A superficial fireball was much more likely than alcohol fumes on their own. They had oil lamps then. The Mary Celeste wasn't cursed in my book, it was a CO trap.
Great vid! I remember reading about the Mary Celeste in a book entitled "Famous Mysteries of the Sea" back when I was in grade school. (Back when the mystery was only 100 years old...boy do I feel ancient!) There was another story of a ship stuck in the ice for many years with the frozen bodies of the crew still on board, but I can't remember the name of the ship. Possible subject of another vid? Unless it's just a legend with no basis in fact...
@@christopherortiz9330 this ship makes a special appearance in Assassin’s Creed 3. It was looking for the Northwest passage and got stuck in place by the ice.
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Ok, my thoughts have always been with an alcohol spill scenario. Not with an explosion though. There was a spill, they feared an explosion, they opened the hatches to air the fumes while they took to the lifeboat. The lifeboat was tied to the ship, but the line broke. The ship was still under sail so was much faster than the boat, the lifeboat got stranded. They actually thought they would only need to be in the boat a short while, hence leaving most of their belongings onboard. Someone, a volunteer maybe, should of stayed onboard. Just a bad miscalculation. Whatever happened, bless their souls.
Sailing vessels have transported manure many times. Sailors learned early that water will activate the manure and give off explosive fumes. After the first explosion the explosive cargo was marked Ship High In Transit (SHIT) to keep it above the water that had washed into the belly of the ship.
@@TheBlueScarecrow Maybe they thought they didn't have time to collect anything. And by opening the hatches to vent any fumes they would be back on board very soon.
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Damn that final captain. Imagine how awesome it would have been to have that ship as a visitable tourist attraction. "Dare you set foot aboard the cursed ship" kind of stuff.
I remember reading about this story when I was young and discussing it with my dad. Over the years there were embellishments or alterations to the mystery. But Thoughty2 did a great job of putting the different versions into perspective. I didn't know about the cargo which puts a different spin on things. Especially the recent chemical simulation. Amazing how after so much time we can still learn more about the situation.
Has anyone ever tried looking for the missing crew in Santa Maria? The Açores back then was a somewhat neglected part of Portugal, but Santa Maria was already one of its main islands. Whilst I doubt there are written records of people arriving there, there could be records in churches and alike as the crew would likely need distress support and that was a job for the Church then.
There was a search done on Sta Maria but nothing came up. Locals have a story that it was sighted but never came ashore, nor anyone else did. The dockmaster found it odd because in those days it would've been a port of call to bring on provisions.
I think that one of the main theories about it is that they supposedly abandoned ship farther away from where they actually thought to be, probably resulting them to think they would reach Santa Maria but failed to
You have hit the nail on the head. Let me give it a couple more blows to bring in some clarity. The Sea is Mary. The sea brought forth life without copulation, hence the Virgin Mary. This is why anything to do with the sea is called Maritime (Marytime). Pass it along
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Imho the alcohol-fume version still holds up. It would explain why they left the sides open (increased air-flow) and let the ship go forward (increased airflow). I don't think they went on the boat in case the ship blows up, but to reduce health-impact of the fumes, as well as the risk of any of the sailors accidentally creating a spark and setting off an explosion. when they are all on the boat, they can't ignite it. The smell would have probably created a cloud behind the ship, so they could have just waited for the air to stop smelling like a tavern before going back. A plan they, for whatever reason, couldn't finish back to the ship.
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It seems less crazy when you consider that, until the advent of transoceanic flight in 1927 (only 95 years ago! - there are still people alive who were born before we could fly across an ocean), the Eastern and Western Hemispheres were almost like two different planets. We lived with that situation for 435 years, and before that, Europeans didn't even know the Americas existed. There's a lot of mystery and romance in that setup.
@@racookster True. Plus only the richest people in society or those who had well paying jobs could afford a ticket for a transatlantic/transpacific crossing, meaning every day people were stuck in their home countries
Thank you for being far more thorough and factual than the other Mary Celeste videos that rely more on spooky hyperbole than facts. I really appreciate the video overall. Excellent video. Extremely entertaining and broad, and informative. Due to all of the information that you gave us, my new theory is that they had stopped at the Azores, anchored ship, and decided to take the smaller boat to shore for some enjoyment, rest, and relaxation. But, then the ship broke free and floated away, leaving the crew stranded on the Azores.
Wouldn't someone have noticed that the anchor was out? No one mentioned it and I think it would have been. That's something that would have been brought up when trying to piece together what happened.
I don't know why people are so reluctant to accept other life forms. The reptilians have been living and working here for well over 13,000 years. They made human beings 8,000 years ago. Google Sumerian Snake Gods. The gods were half man and half snake. They are called the Serpent Race. It was a Serpent Man who spoke to Eve in the garden. Snakes don't have vocal chords. Time to wake from your slumber.
It has been said, often the simplest answer is the right one. As ship full of sailors, spotting a picturesque island, after being at sea for a extended period of time, pulls into a bay and the crew breaks for the island to spend some time on dry land. The next morning, they wake to discover someone forgot or failed to properly set the anchor and the ship is no longer there. Several months or even years later, it is spotted of a distant coast with no one one board.
6:49 Ahhh Thoughty2. I have owned sailboat since the 80s. I've always found the fore of my boat to be at the front (bow) and the aft of my boat to be at the rear (stern)..........
I hate my job... but I also have enough marinitime knowledge to notice you got fore and aft swapped, Fore is bow (most foward end of the ship, while aft is stern (the most back end of the ship)... some bonus that isn't needed other than sea farers alike, while face fore of the ship, port is towards the left (with even numbered frames going up outboard), where starboard is to the right (with odd numbered frames going up outboard) and the centerline is frame Zero or olong the keel... I still hate my job though edit: It's maritime not marinetime
@@adcakeartspersonal There are also what is called a Radio Shack on more modern ships. And it is not referring to the Tandy retail. Tandy took the name from the part of a ship.
After the end of the war, Rail sleepers from Auschwitz and Dachau were used to construct houses and buildings. It was said that the buildings became haunted with the tormented souls of the innocent, and the evil of the happenings there. The story of the mary Celeste makes me wonder if the wood used in it came from ancient burial sites or was used in the civil war. Lumber was extremely expensive so maybe they chose to upcycle. its just a thought.
Fantasies doesn't really fit reality though. Ofc people will say things get haunted when they know where the construction materials come from. Especially when they're from the most talked about places in the world. And you can't build ships with old wood. They would sink within minutes from the constant stress of the salt water. Sure, you can fantasize about them using a tree where slaves or whatever you want to imagine got hung from. But let's be real. Ghosts are human imaginations.
@@Schmorgus I'll certainly beg to differ on the Ghost front. Where are you from? im from the UK. I can take you to a few places that are well known for paranormal events.
@@stavrosgiannaros9498 You can claim how much you want. "Ghost sites" are tourist attractions to earn cash. Nothing more. I'm from Sweden. I've been to sites like that. And every time they claim nothing happens because I "don't believe in it". Weird, isn't it :P
@@Schmorgus I think though you also need to look at Auschwitz and the land that the camp was on. Birds do not fly over it even now. Dogs will go nowhere near it either. Ghosts, spirits, Energy. Dogs are incredibly sensitive creatures as we know. They see things that are not there, they sense things that are about to happen. Yet they will go nowhere near Auschwitz willingly. It has been documented a lot of times. Everything has an essence. Some people feel it more, but i can walk into a place and tell immediately if I'm welcome or not, even if the owner or proprietor is smiling and laughing with me. I definitely wouldnt say im psychic but i am sensitive to energy. Having visited Auschwitz, Dachau and Belsen you can feel the energy there. Sure you know what happened there, and you know it was hellishly evil, but you can still feel it. The energy has not left.
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He's a lumberjack and he's ok, He sleeps all night and works all day, He may wear women's clothes and hang around bars, but he's a lumberjack and he's ok.
Well, it's not 100% certain what REALLY happened here. We can only deal with probability here. It seems fairly certain that the crew abandoned ship for some reason and either couldn't return to it or chose not to. The reasoning becomes a little less certain as many theories such as explosions, fear of sinking, ghosts, etc can't be confirmed by anyone. We can all have our guess as to exactly what happened and why, but we can't know for sure.
Send a robot down about 7 miles into one of the trenches... Mindanao, Tonga Mariana and you may find THEIR front door. THEY hoisted Lemuria into space when the earth was in the 5th orbit. Then THEY moved the earth down to the 3rd orbit to get it away from all the asteroids. You see, the debris in the Asteroid Belt is actually the once great continent of Lemuria. The water used to fill up the gigantic gouge in our planet came from Mars. That was the Great Flood' Noah was just a cover story.
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The log book was in the mate's cabin , that's why the captain left it behind when abandoning ship , couldn't find it . There is a saying among seamen " your ship is your best life boat " , abandon ship only as a last resort .
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Well shiver me timbers, what an incredible story! The story of the Mary Celeste has it all, mystery, intrigue, misfortune, myth, fraud and more. I would love to see an independent film studio (with no Hollywood type connections) make a good movie about this.
Fantastic sooper-dooper video! I've seen your stuff before, and subscribed of course, but the preparation you've done for this episode is, er, a sea-change. I mean, the constantly changing graphics, all well-chosen and usually funny, matched with the dry and black script, made this one of the most entertaining shows I've seen in ages, and I thank you most muchly for keeping alive the mystery of the Mary Celeste.
I used to have a book about disasters at sea. Read it when I was little. Mary Celeste was the first story there. There was also a story about a ship named København. Very interesting... yet nobody made a video about that (well that I know of at least)
Perhaps you could do a video on the shipwrecks at Knysna, South Africa, all purposely done to claim insurance, due to their successors, the steamships, becoming more desirable. However, because none of them dropped anchor when in peril, as required by the insurers, none of the owners got paid out. Most famous shipwreck was the Paquita.
nother theory I read was that the ship's flour supply was made from rye that had ergot, a natural hallucinogenic. The crew had eaten the bread made from this flour and had basically tripped out. They could have done anything while tripping. ps by some weird coincidence [conspiracy?!] the very next vid I watched was about a whole French town being [possibly] afflicted by ergot poisoning.
For info, Mary Celeste was an American merchant brigantine (Marie Celeste was a fictional ship based upon Mary Celeste {first name spelled differently}) She was a two master with square sails on the forward mast and mainly triangular sails from the aft mast, the aft sails configuration could be changed and a brig could be rowed. Much smaller, faster, and more maneuverable than a Man 'O' War.
Part of the "mystery" is the salvage inquiry was more interested in screwing the crew out of their salvage rights than finding out what happened. The evidence that the Celeste's crew abandoned ship while carrying a dangerous cargo was overwhelming but the inquiry kept trying to prove foul play had occurred and didn't investigate plausible theories. The only mystery is: Was it an explosion, the fear of an explosion or toxic stinging fumes that drove the entire crew into the life boat? I don't think they believed the ship was sinking , in that scenario you have time to make log entries and grab personal items. They had 9 barrels worth of pure wood alcohol sloshing around in the bilge and no way to get it out because the alcohol would cause the pump to jam (freeze). So they were sailing along letting the wind carry the fumes away...when the wind died the fumes became unbearable.
I think the most logical explanation is Morehouse threatening the passangers of Mary Celeste and making them "walk the plank" explaning both the lack of signs of a fight and the fact they were never found since they drowned and sank to the oceanfloor. He probably did this because of the salvage he would get, and he convinced the others to do it by offering them all share of the salvage (little did he know he wasnt gonna get as much as he hoped)
In the 1970's there was a Mary Celeste episode of the documentary series "In Search Of..." hosted by Leonard Nimoy. They presented the hypothesis that Captain Briggs ordered the hold aired out, and the alcohol vapor from the leaking barrels met the cold sea air, producing a cloud of condensation. The captain and crew mistook the vapor for smoke and they panicked, thinking the alcohol was on fire, and abandoned ship. Later a storm blew up and snapped the rope towing the lifeboat, which might also explain the water in the hold and the damaged sails and rigging.
@@afoxwithahat7846 But i think it would be logical if the stuff actually exploded and the water rushed in through the pipes they might have though of abandoning the ship and then just go to the island with the boat, if you rewatch in the beginning the ship drifted away from it's original place down towards italy by 750km. By that time it was most likely abandoned and they were waiting for rescue on the island. I don't see any other reason why they would leave a ship in that time and other significant stuff to survive like food.
Ah, yes... fore and aft. Clearly, as labelled, the fore is at the afterward part of the ship, and the aft is at the forward part of the ship. Couldn't possibly be anything wrong there XD
Imagine the mast is the center of the ship (which it is). The backside comes literally AFTer the mast and the frontside comes beFORE the mast. Just visualise it.
@@levyroth That explanation only makes sense if you're going right to left. You could easily say the frontside is after the mast and the backside is before the mast if you're looking at it from left to right. Afterward and Forward makes more sense.
Quite interesting. I had heard about the ship, but never truly knew all the story. Given the 'problem' didn't abate until wrecked, perhaps something had been used in its construction that physically affected any person that stayed aboard for an extended period. Arsenic comes to mind!
As others, I'm buying the leaking barrel idea, It leaked and some were found later to be M T. They went to the lifeboat because the ship may explode B 4 it aired out. Seems a better chance of surviving on a lifeboat back a hundred yards or so then a ship that explodes with you on it. Plus they thought they were closer to the Islands then they actually were, so it's good all around till the rope comes off the rear of the ship and the Islands aren't there either. As to taking the navigation stuff, whether on a big ship or small you still need to know where you are and are headed being pulled by larger ship plus from the fumes they were not thinking right either. Makes the most sense.
@@kodoan411 all it takes is one tired editor to make the mistake. we have to also consider all of the mistakes that DON'T appear in these videos. with the overall quality i have seen so far, i find this one mistake easily forgivable.
@@blinkin304 I find his videos very entertaining and hold absolutely no ill will or animosity. I also plan on continuing to watch his future videos. However, this video seems to be as cursed as that ship. The more you watch, the more eff ups jump out at you. Not ironic splashes of humour but out of place mistakes - many of which have already been highlighted by others in previous comments.
I find all your videos really well presented and entertaining. Keep it up. Oh, fore and aft in sailing terms as you quite rightly state are the front and back of a ship. Please tell whoever does your graphics that the front (fore) of a ship is the pointy bit ;)
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Tbh thats probably what happened xD
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They fail to mention that they could have been stranded on the islands. You can’t take a huge ship up to tiny islands, you take the row boat. My idea is they forgot to set anchor on the ship, went on the island with the dingy, the ship drifted and they got stranded and no one thought to check and see if they were on the island.
My thought exactly.
Would be interesting if they did some archeology today, in the areas where a possible landing would take place compared to where the ship was situated.
You think an experienced captain would make this kind of mistake??
@@theredqueen2283 Well, one of the other takes I've seen pointed out that those who scrutinized the log book of the Celeste... realized that she was abandoned while close enough to the Azores that one could in fact get to the Azores by a ship's launch. She was found far from the Azores... but she'd been drifting for weeks at that point.
which is a detail of the story that makes it so much less mysterious. Getting in a rowboat on the high seas is a fool's errand unless truly desperate. But if you're within sight of land? suddenly it's far less ridiculous.
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@@marhawkman303 drifting for weeks? But according to this video, the last log entry was dated "10 days earlier" before the Mary Celeste was intercepted. So just over two weeks. If they purposely left the log behind in case someone chanced upon the ship, why not write the reason for abandoning ship? To me it suggests a last minute dash - some papers and navigational instruments were taken but not much else. It's very peculiar.
The Mary Celeste was a brigantine about 100 ft long and weighed about 200 tons and had a crew of 11. It was not, by any stretch of the imagination, a "HUGE SHIP".
As Morehouse and his crew approached the Mary Celeste, they noticed that the ship was in good condition and that there were no visible signs of damage or distress. However, when they boarded the vessel, they found that it was completely abandoned. The lifeboat was missing, and there was no sign of the crew or passengers. All of their personal belongings and the ship's documents were still on board, and there was no evidence of a struggle or violence.
The mystery of the Mary Celeste has puzzled investigators and historians for more than a century. There have been many theories about what happened to the crew and passengers, including piracy, mutiny, and a freak wave. Some people have even suggested that the ship was visited by aliens or that it was the victim of a supernatural event. However, no one has been able to provide a definitive explanation for the disappearance of the crew. The case remains one of the most famous maritime mysteries of all time.
I mean there are so many potential possibilities. Did a crucial component of the ship break down? Did they run out of food and take the life boat to a nearby island they saw off in the distance? Maybe they took a day trip to check something out they saw in the water, or took the life boat to go visit a nearby ship crew on another vessel, and somehow the boat drifted away. Another possibility is they were trying to fish from the lifeboat. Maybe they lost power aboard their ship. Maybe they hit something ant thought the ship was going to sink.
@@buffalokay It is difficult to say which theories about the Mary Celeste have not been ruled out, as the true cause of the ship's abandonment and the disappearance of the crew remains a mystery to this day. Despite extensive research and investigation, there is no concrete evidence to support any of the theories that have been proposed about what happened to the Mary Celeste and her crew.
Some of the theories that have been proposed over the years include the possibility that the ship encountered some sort of mechanical failure or malfunction, that the crew encountered some sort of external threat, such as pirates or a sea monster, or that the crew abandoned ship for some other unknown reason. However, none of these theories have been supported by concrete evidence, and it is likely that we will never know the true cause of the Mary Celeste's abandonment and the disappearance of the crew.
@@matti2328 Haha "sea monster" ! Yeah, that could be evidently proven :P
exactly, i was very disappointed when I found out this was another Mary Celeste video
Story Time: I once made a dumb rookie mistake while hiking in 'true wilderness' in Wyoming. No city or town or house for 100 miles in any direction. After setting up a campsite I thought "I really want a drink I left in the cupholder of my vehicle" so I left my campsite to hike miles back to my vehicle to get said drink thinking I could 'remember the way pretty well' no compass, no map, no phone (no service anyway), and I thought I was 'pretty close by' my vehicle. In reality I was miles away, a full day of hiking away, and all of the mesas looked the exact same, suddenly the sun went down and all I had was a single flashlight with me. I had left my emergency hiking pack I never hike without at my campsite. And I remember thinking "I could easily get lost and never found out here if I don't find my vehicle or campsite in the next 24 hours." (No rivers, lakes, ponds, no water in this area) That was the first time I ever thought "This is it. This is how it all ends. You fucked up badly enough no one will ever know what happened to you for years." it was such a last minute bizarre thought too "I want that drink in the cupholder". No one would have ever known that was the motivation for such a stupid simple disappearance. Long story short I found my campsite again and vehicle after much effort to establish where I thought I must be given an error in heading. And I feel like the Mary Celeste captain must have made some hideous rookie mistake like that without any second thought.
crazy how one little mistake could just end it
You could've easily become one of "The Most Mysterious Disappearances" shown on TV.
@@earthchan7540 Indeed. Thoughty2 may have even posted a video on the mysterious disappearance of a hiker in Wyoming. Missed opportunity.
Man found dead in the wilderness beside a locked car with "Drink is best when not left in cupholder of a locked car" etched on the bonnet.
This reminds me of those 2 dutch girls that got lost in panama because they strayed just a bit from the path.
"Sex-starved men full of gonorrhoea and rum." Ah, yes, met a few of those...
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It wasn't unusual for a ship to have TWO logbooks - the captain's log, and the master's, or first mate's log. It's the Mate's log that was found, which suggests that the captain may have taken his log book with him.
This baffling mystery reminds me of the Roanoke Virginia story. I wonder if this mystery will ever be solved? I'm absolutely addicted to this channel!
I think DNA evidence and historical eyewitnesses account that the European settlers moved and interbred with the natives, as there were numerous stories of next wave European explorers encountering mative americans that were particularly fair of skin with multiple different eye colors.
@@tacitus6384 As the Eastern Indians of North America have large amount of DNA already from Europe that would be hard to tell. But the testing of area was interesting. Early arrivals speculated survivors of Atlantis and some could pass for European and not just near there. Now the major arguments is did they come over with boats running along the ice bridge between Europe and North America that existed at same time as land bridge on the other side or as European DNA found with one group very far into Siberian Asia did they cross the land bridge and continue on to the East.
But just the evidence of the premade buildings brought over from England being disassembled and neatly stored indicates they left deliberately so moving in with natives most likely. It has been made into more mystery than it deserves. With no signs of struggle and the complex task of taking the buildings down and the name of local tribe carved into a tree it almost certain thinking they were abandoned they moved into the tribe as no ship had arrived the next years thanks to war between England and Spain. And then that part of the tribe moved off till knowledge of them being there lost. It the several years no ship returned that makes the moving in with a tribe a natural result. One sinking yes but several considering the amount of time passed they must have thought they were abandoned and forgotten. And thus why no attempt to contact the whites when they did show up again by then it was just the decedents of the original group fully tribal identity by then with no desire for contact.
Recent claim by African American group that they are descended having mixed with the tribe seamed plausible with the old records they had. Their oral history recorded some generations later indicates that story. At the very least if false the fraud done very long ago and for some reason never reaching outside of the group. Many instances other places of native tribes interconnecting with freed or escaped blacks.
The fair skin again though actually all over eastern North America there is very strong evidence now that Europeans came over. One Northern tribes first story of them arriving on their lands state whites lived there.
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@@milferdjones2573 Yeah, the best clue we have about Roanoke is that they had a plan for what to do if they didn't get supplies, integrate into one of the local tribes. The twist seems to be that the tribe they liked most... apparently relocated due to a war and it's not really clear where to.
I subscribe to the theory that the red oak barrels leaked and caused the fumes to be unbearable, so the captain set the ship up to air out, ordered everyone onto the life boat tied to the ship and while they waited for the ship to air out, the rope was cut untied or otherwise unteathered and they all watched on their lifeboat watching the mary celeste sail away without them. No one grabbed any of their personal belongs because why would they when they are gonna be back on the ship in an hour.
That is the accepted theory as to the disappearance of the crew. If you have worked with Denatured Alcohol or Acetone then you would realize that excellent ventilation is needed. Otherwise, you get very lightheaded...
So when poisoned by their cargo, the crew vented the hold and sought fresh air in the lifeboat/launch. Since they were not thinking clearly because of the fumes, they tied the rope poorly to the Celest and found themselves alone in the sea with their ship sailing away without them. And once they perished from inadequate water on their small lifeboat/launch, they were no longer there to keep it afloat & so their bodies were never found...
I think your theory is quite logical. It would certainly have been extremely difficult to survive in the lifeboat without adequate supplies on the rough open ocean. I agree with you Onelove 🌊
So why would they have taken most of the ships papers and navigational instruments with them to the lifeboat for the couple of hours it would take to air out the ship?
@@sarahpiaggio2693 I’m thinking that maybe just incase they couldn’t return to the ship. They would still be able to have some form of navigation to indicate where they might be on the ocean 🧭
@@sarahpiaggio2693 If you were planning to sit behind the ship for a few hours, you'd probably still like to know where its going, right?
It would allow them to keep track and ensure they know where they're at.
When about 8 years old I went with my parents to Ohio to visit relatives. In the back of their back yard began a forest. Having grown up in Los Angeles I never saw a real forest and was fascinated. I walked alone (I really didn't know anyone in Ohio) for a couple hours and the forest opened up into someone else's backyard. Then realizing that is not where I belonged I turned around and walked back to the house I started at. I could not at that time understand why everyone was so upset. In total I walked 4 to 5 hours alone through a forest with no map or compass or understanding of East or West or any understanding of direction or coat or any type of preparation and fortunately did not get lost.
Fortunately.
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 You're so right . . . I never thought of that before.
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7:00 - "The cargo of industrial alcohol was untouched"
13:53 - "[the spilled alcohol theory] would tie in with the nine _empty_ barrels that were found on board"
So which was it?
Likely “untouched” means no obvious signs of tampering. They were not pried open or moved, just… empty. Which is why the wood being different matters. If it was open then it could seem tampered and wouldn’t be strange
@@Merlin_Ambrosius_1100 7:03 - _"...which ruled out pirates or blind alcoholics as an obvious cause"_ so the intent of "untouched" was demonstrably that it was _still there_ since the implication was that it had remained undrunk/stolen by pirates or blind alcoholics...
I'm pretty sure it's just
a mistake.
Both.
Alcohol was spilled.
I think i have to play a bit Poirot here and ask, how many of the proposed answers to this have considered the psychology involved?
The captain's young daughter being on board could very well have helped him to make a more hasty decision than he otherwise would have.
My guess would be that the bad weather the day before the last log entry directly or indirectly disturbed the barrels enough that the red oak ones started leaking overnight(or perhaps leaking -more- or getting spread out faster due to water taken in from the bad weather, also potentially causing already leaked alcohol to spread faster and further), shortly after the log entry, this is discovered, the crew gets in the lifeboat as the captain not quite panics, after opening the hatches to air out the fumes, ties the boat to the ship while waiting for that, and then the increased oxygen content in the mix from said airing allows it to be extremely easily ignited(possibly the increased air circulation causes it to reach a lit candle or similar) and explodes, severing the towline in the process, or possibly even damaging the lifeboat and the people in it(and very likely stunning them enough that they cannot react quickly enough)...
Definitely agree on the psychology angle. The captain had his entire family onboard. If there was danger on the ship, he likely did not think clearly. If the barrels were leaking, inhaling the fumes would have only made it worse
The Captain and the crew had been properly trained in the risks of transporting alcohol. It was no leak.
@@TheBlueScarecrow That assumes that there's absolutely zero possibility that something rare happened or that someone made a mistake. Just because it shouldn't happen or because it's more than a million to one odds does NOT mean that it does not happen, just that it's RARE.
Or like the sketch by Tage Danielsson about probability(truth, sanning vs probability, sannolikhet), when something is so improbable it shouldn't have happened, clearly it never did happen, except for the fact that it DID. He made it about Harrisburg, but the same argument could be made for many other "impossible" events.
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@@DIREWOLFx75 Yeah, the Alcohol leak thing was actually proven TRUE. Some of the barrels were in fact completely EMPTY when the cargo was off-loaded. Apparently the construction of that batch of barrels was defective. most of the cargo was in other barrels not from a defective batch. So it IS true that there was a leak in the cargo.
They went for a treasure hunt on some island, but forgot to put the ship into park
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You should have looked her dead square in the eye and without hesitation and with a straight face replied. Really, Karren? It's like trying to explain sex to an alien. Either you get it, or you don't.
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It would be interesting to learn the prequel to this story: What were the circumstances surrounding the commissioning and building of this ship? Was she built of trees from an unlucky forest? Was a curse put on her by the wife of one of the workmen, killed due to the negligence of the monstrous owner? That sort of thing. But maybe the records aren't specific, since no one knew this was going to be such a strange ship. Your channel is brilliant, btw.
Maybe aliens boarded the ship looking for booze. The crew became frightened and fled. When the aliens noticed thier mistake they abandoned the ship.
WOW! Unlucky Forest. Travis Walton knows first-hand about unlucky forests. Fairies live in trees. You can Google that. And Travis Walton was hired to clear out all the dead wood. The Fairies didn't like that and they abducted him and put him through hell for a week. He's lucky they brought him back.
Oh come on,man!What the fuck?!
Unlucky trees? There was a fire place on board. That sounds like the Captain's cabin may have had a carbon monoxide issue. A few captains died. Possibly of related CO issues like heart attack or wot not. Maybe the whole vessel was affected below deck too. If they thought like they would have back then (like you with your unlucky forest) they could have put the CO poisoning down to a curse and gone in the life boat already disorientated. The Captain was off course too. Was he disorientated too? They were at the same latitude as Spain in December in Winter. The weather was poor. The fireplace was mentioned in a newspaper article about the disappearance. It was probably burning. I bet the issues with the ship's history occurred mostly in Winter too. I came up with my theory before I cross referenced the date to check if it was Winter and it was. It seemed unimportant at first and thus did not acknowledge it. But after I came up with my prognosis I checked the latitude and date. This kind of feedback after coming up with the theory is affirmation that a theory is on point. This type of after the fact affirmation will continue the further you look into it. CO is a flammable gas too. It could have mixed with the alcohol fumes. A superficial fireball was much more likely than alcohol fumes on their own. They had oil lamps then. The Mary Celeste wasn't cursed in my book, it was a CO trap.
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Great vid! I remember reading about the Mary Celeste in a book entitled "Famous Mysteries of the Sea" back when I was in grade school. (Back when the mystery was only 100 years old...boy do I feel ancient!) There was another story of a ship stuck in the ice for many years with the frozen bodies of the crew still on board, but I can't remember the name of the ship. Possible subject of another vid? Unless it's just a legend with no basis in fact...
@@Stephanie-we5ep One of the 2 ship has since been found the Erebus.
The Octavius. I literally googled your description of the ship. You gave us another creepy mystery
@@christopherortiz9330 this ship makes a special appearance in Assassin’s Creed 3. It was looking for the Northwest passage and got stuck in place by the ice.
The Vasa. Swedish warship built to physically untenable specifications. Sank on her first run. Now drydocked in a dedicated museum.
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Same! I’ve been watching since before his mustache
It’s because they obviously had “Fore” and “Aft” mixed up...
Hate it when that happens
Silly mistake in the absence of careful editing.
Had to replay it to make sure I'd seen what I had 🙄
I noticed that too
So the Captain was lucky he didn't set course for South America
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6:55 Fore and Aft are the wrong way round. You genuinely have an excellent channel! Keep up the great work.
Ok, my thoughts have always been with an alcohol spill scenario. Not with an explosion though. There was a spill, they feared an explosion, they opened the hatches to air the fumes while they took to the lifeboat. The lifeboat was tied to the ship, but the line broke. The ship was still under sail so was much faster than the boat, the lifeboat got stranded. They actually thought they would only need to be in the boat a short while, hence leaving most of their belongings onboard. Someone, a volunteer maybe, should of stayed onboard. Just a bad miscalculation. Whatever happened, bless their souls.
I think the explosion is to explain the out of order pump but this story was not clear on how it was out of service.
Sailing vessels have transported manure many times. Sailors learned early that water will activate the manure and give off explosive fumes. After the first explosion the explosive cargo was marked Ship High In Transit (SHIT) to keep it above the water that had washed into the belly of the ship.
Nope. If they feared an explosion and took to the lifeboat, the crew would have taken along some food thinking that they would be adrift for awhile.
@@TheBlueScarecrow Maybe they thought they didn't have time to collect anything. And by opening the hatches to vent any fumes they would be back on board very soon.
If the rope snapped the one end would've been attached to the ship still
I love how he like answers it really well and it sorta seems like he closes the case and then its 5 seconds of silence and then ".... BUT!!!"
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Reminds me of the encyclopedia's of this kind, who where more commonplace in my youth....mystery's, countries, historical person's.....like them too.
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Damn that final captain.
Imagine how awesome it would have been to have that ship as a visitable tourist attraction.
"Dare you set foot aboard the cursed ship" kind of stuff.
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“The ocean is responsible for life”. So I can blame the ocean for my anxiety and having to pay taxes. Fook me
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Either the ocean knew to kick us out or the one who got out first is the one to blame 👨🦯
You came from sex not the ocean. Blame your parents.
I remember reading about this story when I was young and discussing it with my dad. Over the years there were embellishments or alterations to the mystery. But Thoughty2 did a great job of putting the different versions into perspective. I didn't know about the cargo which puts a different spin on things. Especially the recent chemical simulation. Amazing how after so much time we can still learn more about the situation.
The way you told the story was so entertaining! Simply incredible, keep it up! 👏😎
Has anyone ever tried looking for the missing crew in Santa Maria? The Açores back then was a somewhat neglected part of Portugal, but Santa Maria was already one of its main islands. Whilst I doubt there are written records of people arriving there, there could be records in churches and alike as the crew would likely need distress support and that was a job for the Church then.
There was a search done on Sta Maria but nothing came up. Locals have a story that it was sighted but never came ashore, nor anyone else did. The dockmaster found it odd because in those days it would've been a port of call to bring on provisions.
If they are still alive, they are probably on the Great Ark now.
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I think that one of the main theories about it is that they supposedly abandoned ship farther away from where they actually thought to be, probably resulting them to think they would reach Santa Maria but failed to
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Ocean: And deathplace of airbreathers.
No. Sry. Has thoroughly been determined that life came from puddles filling and then drying filling and then drying
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@@saradoe7827 really
You have hit the nail on the head. Let me give it a couple more blows to bring in some clarity. The Sea is Mary. The sea brought forth life without copulation, hence the Virgin Mary. This is why anything to do with the sea is called Maritime (Marytime). Pass it along
Can you tell me why I can't stop watching your videos? Literally when I get up the first thing I do is watch your videos! And interestingly enough, I don't even like history! But I like true crime podcasts, that's probably why I love your channel!
Wow! Another super interesting story from history and the mysteries that occured. Thank you. I was glued to the screen.
What really happened is Edward Kenway's ship had low health, so he decided to jump off and swim over to kill a nearby man o wars crew. BUT before he could insta-kill the ship, his game crashed :(
This is a shitty comment, so why does it have 800 likes? 😂
assassins creed black flag 👍
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Ah yes, I can relate
Assassin's creed
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Damn I’ve never seen someone else that can incorporate a sponsor so smooth
Master of the segue.
Swaggersouls... Pyrocinical, and a few others I'm surr
'Dylan is in trouble'
And make history more intresting. He is a superb story teller and narrator.
,...legal eagle.
I'm all about historical sea stories right now! Thanks for this gem 🙏
The storytelling is outstanding. I’m intrigued by the stories and chuckling with the comments. This is now my favorite channel.
Imho the alcohol-fume version still holds up. It would explain why they left the sides open (increased air-flow) and let the ship go forward (increased airflow).
I don't think they went on the boat in case the ship blows up, but to reduce health-impact of the fumes, as well as the risk of any of the sailors accidentally creating a spark and setting off an explosion. when they are all on the boat, they can't ignite it.
The smell would have probably created a cloud behind the ship, so they could have just waited for the air to stop smelling like a tavern before going back. A plan they, for whatever reason, couldn't finish back to the ship.
I would agree ,that is the most plausible scenario.The pirating the ship for salvage is my second choice.
The Captain and the crew were well versed in the transportation of dangerous cargo.
He didn't even have the mustache,last time i was this early
Miss those days. There should never exist a mustache that isn’t accompanied by a beard. It is always bad.
Well...last time I was this early he didn’t even have a driver’s license...
Your sentence is worded oddly, your skills are as bad as mine
@@JennRighter What are you talking about!? That mustache is amazing
Victor Clabaugh it’s not worded oddly, he just used the comma properly.
42 ... You're One Of The Very BEST Storytellers That I've Heard In Years !!! It's A Talent & You've Got It Down Pat !!! Please Never Stop Storytelling !!! 🤙🏻From 🇨🇦 42 🙋🏻♀️
It's crazy to think that sea trade and naval activity played such a massive role on human history
It seems less crazy when you consider that, until the advent of transoceanic flight in 1927 (only 95 years ago! - there are still people alive who were born before we could fly across an ocean), the Eastern and Western Hemispheres were almost like two different planets. We lived with that situation for 435 years, and before that, Europeans didn't even know the Americas existed. There's a lot of mystery and romance in that setup.
@@racookster True. Plus only the richest people in society or those who had well paying jobs could afford a ticket for a transatlantic/transpacific crossing, meaning every day people were stuck in their home countries
Not really
@@manz7860 I was just saying
Death awaits you on the sea.
The pirate alien theory sounds plausable.
Pirate aliens prefer probing people than ransacking cargo!
It was pedophile Satanists in the Deep State. Q said so.
@@stevetobias4890 Kamala should be in love then.
Blind alcoholic pirate aliens, the only sound explanation.
Thank you for being far more thorough and factual than the other Mary Celeste videos that rely more on spooky hyperbole than facts. I really appreciate the video overall. Excellent video. Extremely entertaining and broad, and informative.
Due to all of the information that you gave us, my new theory is that they had stopped at the Azores, anchored ship, and decided to take the smaller boat to shore for some enjoyment, rest, and relaxation. But, then the ship broke free and floated away, leaving the crew stranded on the Azores.
Wouldn't someone have noticed that the anchor was out? No one mentioned it and I think it would have been. That's something that would have been brought up when trying to piece together what happened.
I don't know why people are so reluctant to accept other life forms. The reptilians have been living and working here for well over 13,000 years. They made human beings 8,000 years ago. Google Sumerian Snake Gods. The gods were half man and half snake. They are called the Serpent Race. It was a Serpent Man who spoke to Eve in the garden. Snakes don't have vocal chords. Time to wake from your slumber.
What if azores was a mirage?
It has been said, often the simplest answer is the right one. As ship full of sailors, spotting a picturesque island, after being at sea for a extended period of time, pulls into a bay and the crew breaks for the island to spend some time on dry land. The next morning, they wake to discover someone forgot or failed to properly set the anchor and the ship is no longer there. Several months or even years later, it is spotted of a distant coast with no one one board.
but the log from 10 days prior ?
6:49 Ahhh Thoughty2. I have owned sailboat since the 80s. I've always found the fore of my boat to be at the front (bow) and the aft of my boat to be at the rear (stern)..........
I hate my job... but I also have enough marinitime knowledge to notice you got fore and aft swapped, Fore is bow (most foward end of the ship, while aft is stern (the most back end of the ship)... some bonus that isn't needed other than sea farers alike, while face fore of the ship, port is towards the left (with even numbered frames going up outboard), where starboard is to the right (with odd numbered frames going up outboard) and the centerline is frame Zero or olong the keel... I still hate my job though
edit: It's maritime not marinetime
Just noticed that.. Bowsprit should be forward and poop deck aftward.
@@DanSkunk hahahaha..... poopdeck
@@adcakeartspersonal There are also what is called a Radio Shack on more modern ships. And it is not referring to the Tandy retail. Tandy took the name from the part of a ship.
@@petenielsen6683 that is something I didn't know, thanks, I mostly have aviation and dc knowledge
You have so much "marinetime" knowledge that you got the word "maritime" wrong...
Nice try, Space Cadet...
Late to the party here; FYI the “fore” (forward) & “aft” (rear of the boat) labels at time stamp 6:53 are *backwards* .... Great video....Thanks
You, sir, sound like an experienced Captain
Blame the editor
I suspect he lost World of Warships to a flotilla of coracles.
Also lier is spelled liar.
Boy what the hell boy
You could be right 42. I'll never see another ocean in person again in my life though. Keep up the good work there 42.
After the end of the war, Rail sleepers from Auschwitz and Dachau were used to construct houses and buildings. It was said that the buildings became haunted with the tormented souls of the innocent, and the evil of the happenings there. The story of the mary Celeste makes me wonder if the wood used in it came from ancient burial sites or was used in the civil war. Lumber was extremely expensive so maybe they chose to upcycle.
its just a thought.
Fantasies doesn't really fit reality though. Ofc people will say things get haunted when they know where the construction materials come from. Especially when they're from the most talked about places in the world. And you can't build ships with old wood. They would sink within minutes from the constant stress of the salt water. Sure, you can fantasize about them using a tree where slaves or whatever you want to imagine got hung from. But let's be real. Ghosts are human imaginations.
@@Schmorgus I'll certainly beg to differ on the Ghost front. Where are you from? im from the UK. I can take you to a few places that are well known for paranormal events.
@@stavrosgiannaros9498 You can claim how much you want. "Ghost sites" are tourist attractions to earn cash. Nothing more. I'm from Sweden. I've been to sites like that. And every time they claim nothing happens because I "don't believe in it". Weird, isn't it :P
@@Schmorgus I think though you also need to look at Auschwitz and the land that the camp was on. Birds do not fly over it even now. Dogs will go nowhere near it either. Ghosts, spirits, Energy. Dogs are incredibly sensitive creatures as we know. They see things that are not there, they sense things that are about to happen. Yet they will go nowhere near Auschwitz willingly. It has been documented a lot of times. Everything has an essence. Some people feel it more, but i can walk into a place and tell immediately if I'm welcome or not, even if the owner or proprietor is smiling and laughing with me. I definitely wouldnt say im psychic but i am sensitive to energy. Having visited Auschwitz, Dachau and Belsen you can feel the energy there. Sure you know what happened there, and you know it was hellishly evil, but you can still feel it. The energy has not left.
I keep coming back for the history & amazing storytelling. So satisfying to watch.
*That borat mankini killed me this guy is a memelord*
That's "His Royal Majesty Dr. Mr. Memelord, Esq." to you pleb
@@LeeryMuscrat pagan
7:00 The cargo barrels were untouched
13:55 The 9 empty barrels
He explains it with the red oak barrel theory
I've been playing World of Warships for about five years now. I never thought I'd like any type of battle game, but between the awesomely rendered graphics and the skill it takes to calculate the trajectories, I'm completely hooked. I also like Thoughty2's videos, but I felt WOWS deserved a plug from a real player of the game.
I've known World of Warships since the year it came out, but deeply regret never trying it out because I thought it wasn't free. Now I understand why a few years ago I've been getting so many ads about the game.
"Just a regular Sunday then" lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The lumberjack is back for another vid lmao😂
Fight me 1v1 irl girl
@@SadForLyf 🗿so you have chosen, death?
Better watch out. Just remember, if he looks like he cuts trees for a living, he probably wont hesitate to cut you. O.o
More like nonce
He's a lumberjack and he's ok,
He sleeps all night and works all day,
He may wear women's clothes and hang around bars,
but he's a lumberjack and he's ok.
I think it’s hilarious how he presents you with a scenario then ends up explaining it, with no trouble
No problem if you believe in Fairy Tales.
Well, it's not 100% certain what REALLY happened here. We can only deal with probability here. It seems fairly certain that the crew abandoned ship for some reason and either couldn't return to it or chose not to. The reasoning becomes a little less certain as many theories such as explosions, fear of sinking, ghosts, etc can't be confirmed by anyone. We can all have our guess as to exactly what happened and why, but we can't know for sure.
This makes me wish we had the capability to explore more of the ocean so that we could see alll the ships throughout history that have been sunk
Send a robot down about 7 miles into one of the trenches... Mindanao, Tonga Mariana and you may find THEIR front door. THEY hoisted Lemuria into space when the earth was in the 5th orbit. Then THEY moved the earth down to the 3rd orbit to get it away from all the asteroids. You see, the debris in the Asteroid Belt is actually the once great continent of Lemuria. The water used to fill up the gigantic gouge in our planet came from Mars. That was the Great Flood' Noah was just a cover story.
Great to see you are still providing us with great stories, Arron. Keep up the excellent work. Cheers, Dick from Vancouver.
Hehehe
Thanks for an in-depth story on this ship. I have heard so many. This at least gives you some avenues that make sense.
Can't lie as soon as he said Mary Celeste I started singing the line from downed and drowned
seen a few here and there on the mary celeste, but this one is by far the most enriching. (there are a couple of misspells, though, thoughty-) and thank you!!!🎉🎉🎉 channel is most killer!!
This is entirely besides the point of the video but his voice is so soothing.
Is that accent Irish?
@@winnifredforbes1114 It's not Irish, I think it's a Northern England accent.
@@spacecowboy13b You could be right. I get them mixed up. Very similar. I have been to both Ireland and Yorkshire. After a few pints, everyone sounds the same! 🇨🇦
@@spacecowboy13b Actually, I just looked him up. He is from Lancashire.
@@winnifredforbes1114 Ah ok, I was thinking Manchester, so not far off.
THUMBNAIL: Why was no one aboard this fully stocked ship?
*Sears asks this question everyday*
Who???
Awesome
The log book was in the mate's cabin , that's why the captain left it behind when abandoning ship , couldn't find it .
There is a saying among seamen " your ship is your best life boat " , abandon ship only as a last resort .
Loving this one thanks for sharing very information blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Well shiver me timbers, what an incredible story! The story of the Mary Celeste has it all, mystery, intrigue, misfortune, myth, fraud and more. I would love to see an independent film studio (with no Hollywood type connections) make a good movie about this.
You're lucky. The creators of "Dark" are recreating this story called "1899"
Making history and random trivia fun, yet again! Thoughty2, you are an international treasure!
This was more detailed information about the Mary Celeste than I've ever heard. Excellent presentation. Great research. 🌹
just found your channel and love it man! awesome interesting stories!
Original Name: Why Was No One Aboard This Fully-Stocked Ship
I thought I was missing something
no , it was ''Why Was Everyone Forced to Immediately Abandon This Sh!t ''
Well crap, I already missed the name change in one hour?!
I'm thinking "Ghost Ship" something is coming
Second title: "Why Was Everyone Forced to Immediately Abandon this Ship?"
That being tje actual title, I don't get this joke at all.
@@dickJohnsonpeter no thats literally the second title
@@dickJohnsonpeter It's not a joke.
Well I guess I wasn't early enough to see the original one but it's the title so it's the title.
What was the previous title? Señor foresight
these are great mate, keep em coming.
Imagine this blokes 42nd bday......, "hey am 42 hear"
Good video mate haha love the narrating lol
Fantastic sooper-dooper video! I've seen your stuff before, and subscribed of course, but the preparation you've done for this episode is, er, a sea-change. I mean, the constantly changing graphics, all well-chosen and usually funny, matched with the dry and black script, made this one of the most entertaining shows I've seen in ages, and I thank you most muchly for keeping alive the mystery of the Mary Celeste.
Agree !
I used to have a book about disasters at sea. Read it when I was little. Mary Celeste was the first story there. There was also a story about a ship named København. Very interesting... yet nobody made a video about that (well that I know of at least)
Very interesting. I had no idea that the Mary Celeste had so much history. Thanks!
Thoughty2 is one of the best channel with content I can watch or listen to while doing my work. Just awesome overall :)
Perhaps you could do a video on the shipwrecks at Knysna, South Africa, all purposely done to claim insurance, due to their successors, the steamships, becoming more desirable. However, because none of them dropped anchor when in peril, as required by the insurers, none of the owners got paid out. Most famous shipwreck was the Paquita.
I am starting to really enjoy this channel, just the right amount of humour, whilst relating accurate tales.
nother theory I read was that the ship's flour supply was made from rye that had ergot, a natural hallucinogenic.
The crew had eaten the bread made from this flour and had basically tripped out. They could have done anything while tripping.
ps by some weird coincidence [conspiracy?!] the very next vid I watched was about a whole French town being [possibly] afflicted by ergot poisoning.
Are you speaking from experience?
@@TheBlueScarecrow - only from the experience of having read the theory and seen the video
For info, Mary Celeste was an American merchant brigantine (Marie Celeste was a fictional ship based upon Mary Celeste {first name spelled differently}) She was a two master with square sails on the forward mast and mainly triangular sails from the aft mast, the aft sails configuration could be changed and a brig could be rowed. Much smaller, faster, and more maneuverable than a Man 'O' War.
Part of the "mystery" is the salvage inquiry was more interested in screwing the crew out of their salvage rights than finding out what happened.
The evidence that the Celeste's crew abandoned ship while carrying a dangerous cargo was overwhelming but the inquiry kept trying to prove foul play had occurred and didn't investigate plausible theories.
The only mystery is:
Was it an explosion, the fear of an explosion or toxic stinging fumes that drove the entire crew into the life boat?
I don't think they believed the ship was sinking , in that scenario you have time to make log entries and grab personal items.
They had 9 barrels worth of pure wood alcohol sloshing around in the bilge and no way to get it out because the alcohol would cause the pump to jam (freeze).
So they were sailing along letting the wind carry the fumes away...when the wind died the fumes became unbearable.
I think the most logical explanation is Morehouse threatening the passangers of Mary Celeste and making them "walk the plank" explaning both the lack of signs of a fight and the fact they were never found since they drowned and sank to the oceanfloor. He probably did this because of the salvage he would get, and he convinced the others to do it by offering them all share of the salvage (little did he know he wasnt gonna get as much as he hoped)
Love all your videos. Thank you for sharing.
God bless.
In the 1970's there was a Mary Celeste episode of the documentary series "In Search Of..." hosted by Leonard Nimoy. They presented the hypothesis that Captain Briggs ordered the hold aired out, and the alcohol vapor from the leaking barrels met the cold sea air, producing a cloud of condensation. The captain and crew mistook the vapor for smoke and they panicked, thinking the alcohol was on fire, and abandoned ship. Later a storm blew up and snapped the rope towing the lifeboat, which might also explain the water in the hold and the damaged sails and rigging.
yeah, add in that the ship was MUCH closer to the Azores when abandoned than when found and... suddenly it's plausible.
“No scorch marks were ever found”
Unfortunately the same can’t be said for under my duvet.
Gross.. wash your skid marked sheets!
Ew
😂😂😂😂
Thanks for taking the time machine back to get this footage
'No, not literally, keep watching me.' Never a dull moment with you, Arran mate.
Legends say the crew is still stuck on Santa Maria Island awaiting rescue.
Welp guess I’ll be a legend
That gave me chills
I think theyd be dead by now
@@ryancolwell2850 I think that's a joke
@@afoxwithahat7846 But i think it would be logical if the stuff actually exploded and the water rushed in through the pipes they might have though of abandoning the ship and then just go to the island with the boat, if you rewatch in the beginning the ship drifted away from it's original place down towards italy by 750km. By that time it was most likely abandoned and they were waiting for rescue on the island. I don't see any other reason why they would leave a ship in that time and other significant stuff to survive like food.
Ive learned more in this channel than my history class
Same
Yeah, we were taught 1776 stuff from grade 4 till grade 12. then I found this channel and the History Guy.
You have shown 'Fore and Aft' back to front at 6:54. Fore is the front, the bow, and Aft the rear, or stern.
Ah, yes... fore and aft. Clearly, as labelled, the fore is at the afterward part of the ship, and the aft is at the forward part of the ship. Couldn't possibly be anything wrong there XD
Imagine the mast is the center of the ship (which it is). The backside comes literally AFTer the mast and the frontside comes beFORE the mast. Just visualise it.
@@levyroth That explanation only makes sense if you're going right to left. You could easily say the frontside is after the mast and the backside is before the mast if you're looking at it from left to right. Afterward and Forward makes more sense.
Fore is the front
Aft is the rear
Just found this channel. How did it take me so long.. glad I’m here, from one sea nerd to another great vids! Very interesting & informative
Quite interesting. I had heard about the ship, but never truly knew all the story. Given the 'problem' didn't abate until wrecked, perhaps something had been used in its construction that physically affected any person that stayed aboard for an extended period. Arsenic comes to mind!
As others, I'm buying the leaking barrel idea, It leaked and some were found later to be M T. They went to the lifeboat because the ship may explode B 4 it aired out. Seems a better chance of surviving on a lifeboat back a hundred yards or so then a ship that explodes with you on it. Plus they thought they were closer to the Islands then they actually were, so it's good all around till the rope comes off the rear of the ship and the Islands aren't there either. As to taking the navigation stuff, whether on a big ship or small you still need to know where you are and are headed being pulled by larger ship plus from the fumes they were not thinking right either. Makes the most sense.
Well paced and detailed script - I really enjoyed the historical retelling of this mystery
6:54, mis-labeled fore and aft on the boat? XD
Said it before I did. Kinda hard to screw that one up...yet here we are.
i noticed that too. i skimmed through the comments to see if it had already been mentioned when i found this one.
@@kodoan411 all it takes is one tired editor to make the mistake. we have to also consider all of the mistakes that DON'T appear in these videos. with the overall quality i have seen so far, i find this one mistake easily forgivable.
@@blinkin304 I find his videos very entertaining and hold absolutely no ill will or animosity. I also plan on continuing to watch his future videos.
However, this video seems to be as cursed as that ship. The more you watch, the more eff ups jump out at you. Not ironic splashes of humour but out of place mistakes - many of which have already been highlighted by others in previous comments.
I stopped the video to see if anyone commented on this. Hold fast mates!
In my opinion this is by far one of the best channels on youtube. If not the best ❤ Makes me proud to be british 😅 keep it up fella :D
I love how Thoughty2 narrates his videos
I find all your videos really well presented and entertaining. Keep it up.
Oh, fore and aft in sailing terms as you quite rightly state are the front and back of a ship. Please tell whoever does your graphics that the front (fore) of a ship is the pointy bit ;)
Yep... otherwise you'd be sailing in the other direction 😉