Fun fact: Sperm whales are capable of feeling complex emotions like grief and revenge. They can also recognize individual people and ships to exact revenge if you've wronged them.
Since the banning of whaling through most of the world, mothers will allow their calfs to come to the surface to greet passing vessels not seeing humans as the threats they used to be. Indian elephants are also notabally friendlier now they are not used as weapons of war.
Agreed, but then again, would they have been found if it wasn't for the others being found first and telling them there were 3 people on that specific island?
Could go either way, really... A BETTER Idea would have been to leave as many people as possible on the island, and gather as much food/water as possible to take on the "get help mission". Using only a few crew members in 2 separate boats... Would things have gone so well if rescue teams hadn't gone back to get the men on the island? Likely not.
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3 Crewmates: We kinda just want to live out our lives on this tiny island. Make the best of it. Good luck out there! - A few weeks later - 3 Crewmates: Oh hey! You guys lived! Wow thanks for rescuing us! Wait what? You ATE eachother????
They were way smarter. Even after considering which way will be more comfortable, you probably have better chances of surviving longer on that island. You can get food and water there and everything you need.
They are very lucky that any crew member on those boats actually made it to safety on another ship because if all 20/more men stayed on the island, the amount of food would not be enough to sustain them all till a rescue boat comes (if any rescue boat would come to the island in the first place without anyone to fetch the boats). So you can say that the crew that sailed out sacrificed their life in return for the quick recovery of the crew left behind on the island. In a situation like that, luck plays a major role and the 3 Crewmate has won the lottery. But someone definitely has to sail out in search of rescue which was just turned out to be the 17 men.
It’s sad too that Pollard’s cousin, Owen Coffin, wasn’t actually supposed to go. He was too young when the ship first left Nantucket. So Pollard had to go back to his Aunt and explain that he killed and ate her son. That would make family dinners a little awkward.
In the book, In the Heart of the Sea, Coffin's family never forgave Pollard and refused to speak to him for the rest of his life, even though the law of the sea would've been well known and accepted in Nantucket.
Fun Fact: according to the book 'In The Heart Of The Sea' about the events the first recorded person to ever suggest drawing lots at sea (in the 1600s) to see who would die was the one that drew the small straw and died.
Interstingly, in the movie, they flipped it for some reason...captain drew short straw, cousin offered to take his place, then shot hismelf in the head.
It's amazing how a creative person, with only a brief input, can write an entire epic tale. The scope of human imagination and creativity never fails to amaze me 🙂
I think it is more amazing that some people create entire universes with no input outside of their imagination. Anyone can embellish an existing story; it takes a true master to make a story worth embellishing.
You should see the film by Ron Howard “In the Heart If the Sea” it’s an absolute true as possible story of not only what happened to the Essex, but also how the story was acquired by Herman Melville and turned into the book. It’s an amazing film!
Fun fact: after the first hit from the whale Owen Chase tried to repair the damage with a hammer same wood, its also said that the mating call of this type of whale is a kind of tapping or dinging noise similar to that of a hammer on nails
@@vcommandarv5916 curious maybe the whale may never seen a ship or it's seen em just never got close n it was testing itself or my personal theory is that the whale wanted snu snu from the captain
@@amylarson3958 completely depends on the woman, and after that the rest of the mans features, stating 'women like bald men' is 100% generalising and utter bs
Reading into Mungo Park was extraordinarily fascinating. And all you had to do was say his name! Can't wait to finish this video if I can stop finding myself going down rabbit holes of New knowledge!
Well, after the inhumanity of stacking tortoises as a kind of "living lunchbox", cannibalism automatically enters as a logical progression of possibility, so it's not that weird...
There’s a movie called : IN THE HEART OF THE SEA. It’s a movie about this , Chris hemsworth and a few other very good actors are in it including Tom Holland
With all due respect to Chris Helsworth ( a fine actor )...the book of the same name, written by Nathaniel Filbrick, is much much better.... read it , you won't be disappointed
With the stories you tell and especially how great you are at telling them it is hard to believe that this is real history that inspired much fiction and not the other way around! great job man, keep it up, thank you!
Fun Fact: Sperm Whales have been known to live for over 70 years, meaning that the real Moby Dick probably could've still been alive for years even after the novel dropped
@Kris De Roo did... did you even watch the video? And obviously "Moby Dick" was fictional, I'm still calling the actual whale Moby. There was literal reports of this event happening back when it did. They literally rescued the living crewmates
@Kris De Roo show me a book. Show me at least *one* book about this. Also most people who say "I know more than xxxxx" have always turned out to be dumb but if you are really insistent on proving Thoughty, me, or anyone else (including fucking wikipedia, which while is open to everyone editing, is checked by a whole slew of moderators, and has plenty of sources to back this up), then go right ahead.
@Kris De Roo first off, where is the name "Mocha Dick" coming from? Nobody called it that. Second, you talk about Owen, but you forget about Thomas Nickerson, the cabin boy, who also wrote about this exact event later in his life, and communication back then was not like today's, so there's no way Owen and Tom were in kahoots or Tom was "clout chasing". The *newspapers* about it still took several days to go around anyways, so there's that. Assuming that you are completely denying the ship's destruction at all, look at the references on Wikipedia, if you are denying it was destroyed by a whale, technically I can't 'deny' that possibility (despite the numerous testimonies), *But* ships have been sunken by whale attacks before, including as far recent as 1999. Also, you still haven't brought up any source that disproves this ever happened. Also what the fuck does me saying "literal" several times have anything to do with this? It's like you brought this up as a last ditch "gotcha" moment but it's really moot. Nobody gives a shit about how you form your sentences unless they are completely grammatically incorrect. i am still willing to be proven wrong, is there anything I could look at that proves anyone here wrong?
I love how many sanctimonious people are on this thread as if they'd have been better human back in the 1820s. ALL OF YOU would have used Whale Oil products, products made from Whale Bones, had you been on island starving you'd have eaten every tortious and turtle you can get your hands on. You think you're better.....the computer or smart phone you're using to watch this was more than likely made with 3rd world child slave labor hands with components that were stripped mined in places that reek havoc on the environment and the local population. But you're so much better than the "whalers" and the people that relied on whale oil
@@enhancedphysique6452sin. not money. money is the root of all greed. greed is a sin. people are greedy and sinful, and there’s no changing that EVER. god made us imperfect, no man will ever be pure of sin. put your faith in god, and his son who died on the cross. so you may sin, and be forgiven. sin again, and be forgiven.
I believe Teatur_ because evolution of different lizards, birds, and other species. Many mammals look, act, and have similar features as whales, such as: hippopotamus, platypus, and more. Due to this - prehistoric creatures could have evolved into sea mammals like whales, and kept their hip bones.
@@jefffarris3359 They proved that the Donner party did not resort to eating human flesh what you going on about? context of all bones found all that showed clear signs of being eaten where non human, they did down dog meat but heck that was a common practice of the time when meat was not a plenty
Hello there, oh wait two things are wrong with this comment, wrong lyrics and that's kenobi who says it (grievous says it in TCW but that's a different grievous) there's gonna be that one person who has never watched star wars reading this
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I read that the whale that attacked the ship was not doing it out of revenge. they feel that the ship arrived during mating, so the male whales were more aggressive, and as the whaling ships were doing their duty, the workers on the ship were doing repairs. The hammering is assumed to be what attracted the attacking whale, seeing it as a rival, and wanting it removed from area.
It's extremely unlikely that this never happened the way they tell it. Come on now. A sperm whale attacking a ship? Sounds to me they needed some ridiculous story to justify their cannibalism.
@@bmsuperstar1 lol what? What would that have to do with them eating each other? That's happened many times from people being stranded at sea or on desert islands.
BAM!!!!...another amazing video m8, as a writer of short stories, mostly about the paranormal and certain cryptids, I am sensitive to writing, good and bad (imo) and I love your ability to write amazing scripts and I absolutely and immensely enjoy your endings.... always brilliant, well done m8.
@@davidbeppler3032 I didn’t say I agreed with it, I was just mentioning it. I’m an wildlife hobbyist photographer, I just wanted to get other people’s views on it. I haven’t a problem with people hunting animals that are in abundance, when done properly, it’s way more humane and less wasteful than the meat industry. However, I do take issue with people killing animals that are endangered, or killing just to kill. A couple of years ago, an indigenous man was recorded killing a poor wombat, very cruelly and slowly with a rock. He had his friend shine car lights on the poor creature to confuse it. This guy was a bloody police officer, and he got away with it, even though it was obvious animal cruelty and was just discarded on the side of the road afterwards.☹️ Who are your people? Do they still hunt?
"God help thee, old man, thy thoughts have created a creature in thee; and he whose intense thinking thus makes him a Prometheus; a vulture feeds upon that heart forever, that vulture the very creature he creates."
Oh yeah things were much better for the human race back before things like electricity, clean water, and modern medical care. I think we all wish we could return to a time when average life expectancy was about 35-40 years.
@@phaedrus000 itself not about plastic or pollution of the seas, it's about the pollution of the soul The average peasant probably was more content with his life than the average Joe now Yeah they may die from measles or whatever but he had a family, led a simple life, was satisfied with it, and didn't have to see anything similar to Twitter
Awesome tale! I grew up spending aummers on Nantucket with a fundamental knowledge of whaling history. The logs of most of these journeys, which migrated from only the Atlantic seaboard to a global pursuit of the quarry, are well documented and preserved on island in a special museum. I would be certain to say that gruesome accounts can be found among the journals in this museum.
@@collectingonthecheap56353 Absolutely not, her video was focused on the crew, his vid was slightly more focused on the whale, and he also copied the counting of deaths at the end. He also copied another vid of her earlier this month.
I remember hearing about another whale story about a creature called Moka Dick. Called that because it was eventually killed by an alliance of 5 whaling ships off the coast of Moka island. The whale was known for attacking whaling boats and whole ships sinking several of each.
@Kris De Roo there’s plenty of evidence, no? I can’t link you anything from the top of my head, but I’ve read some articles about Mocha Dick and he was pretty real
I love the little sound effects used in these tales. The sounds of the men Gnawing, the little barely audible groaning and/or mulling about etc. Awesome and certainly adds to the drama. Thanks.
recommend reading "In the Heart of the Sea" Nathanial Philbrick... a great read and has all the stories around this, as well as story of Nantucket whale trade etc .. award winning book. the captain of the Essex was an experienced seaman, but inexperienced captain who actually lost TWO ships he commanded. He ended up working as a night watchman back on Nantucket and was known to store caches of food around his house.. a legacy of his trauma i suppose.
Ah yes, the Essex. I remember when I first heard of it and I was in awe that the story of Moby Dick really did have some basis in reality. It was also really nice to find a story where the whale wins for once; without them and their oil we wouldn't have gotten as far as we have as a society, but that doesn't mean I feel good about forcing them to near extinction. Another story you should definitely cover is the story of a whale who, in my opinion, far outdid the Essex in telling the story of a white whale that fought back against the hunters. His name was Mocha Dick. Look him up. :)
I just finished watching In the Heart of Sea. Beautiful movie. I learnt quite a lot of the American Whaling industry. Couldn't believe such a story is real and really happened!!!
That’s a trip, I just watched the film “In the Heart of the Sea” last night. All about the true story of Moby Dick and what happened to the Essex. Fantastic film! Chris Hemsworth was the first mate, but it was BS as he was supposed to be given his captaincy but they lied and gave it to Pollard. Who hadn’t ever even gone on a trip! Truly bad idea.
My favorite movie of all time used to be Jaws, until about 20 years ago, when I saw the 1956 version of Moby Dick starring Gregory Peck. It became one of the few times that I saw a movie before reading the book upon which it was based- I began to read the book the very next day after seeing it. The movie quickly supplanted Jaws as my favorite, especially since I realized that they were the same story, at the core. I still love Jaws, and watch it every summer- usually just before or during my family’s yearly vacation on Cape Cod. But I’ll watch Moby Dick at any time of year, and if I’m ever in a hurry to leave the house for an appointment or something, and haven’t yet had time to pick a book to bring, (or don’t have time to retrieve the one I’m currently reading), I will always just grab my copy of Moby Dick from the shelf by the door. I know that I’ll never be bored, and if I do pull that one out, I know that I’m going to read the whole thing again before putting it back on the shelf. I will wholeheartedly encourage anyone who hasn’t read this strange and wonderful book to give it a try- while the basic story is an adventure about whaling, there’s so much more there than many would suspect- history, religion, philosophy, etc. Or if you’re not big on reading, the movie is incredibly good- the writing, the special effects (pre-CGI, of course), the cinematography, and damn- the acting!- it’s so enjoyable. Anyway- sorry to harp so long- thanks for the great video, I found it to be really enjoyable. And, stay safe and healthy, everyone.
@@Chez114 Thanks so much for the kind words! It’s always a bit of a gamble when I write something like that, as to whether it’ll be well-received, or if someone will (mysteriously) be offended by it and start tossing insults. So- thank you- you made my day🙂
@@tunguskalumberjack9987 I get what you mean. But if you stand by what you say, I think you should always risk losing a few for the many who would appreciate your thoughts. It's a pleasure. Keep writing, my friend.
@@Chez114 Once again, thank you! As long as I feel strongly enough about a subject, I generally find it worth putting it out there for people like you and I to enjoy. Thanks again, my friend!
I love the novel and have read it several times only to relive the story of the book. It's written in the most sophisticated way possible. It sparked my interest in writing and the sea. I wish I write something that precious like Moby Dick :) thanks for this video 🥺
I spent a significant portion of my childhood in New Bedford MA. I fell in love with history of whaling in 19th century. New Bedford eclipsed Nantucket as the whaling capital. Of course I read Melville's "Moby Dick" but, there were so many other stories, both fact and fiction to feed my inquisitive mind. Although I have moved far away from romanticising the whaling era I still have a fascination with those who sailed and lowered the boats to chase and catch a whale or have their boat stove in by a whale's jaws or be licked to the devil by the whatle's flukes. I still go back to New Bedford when I can and the romance of the sea is still there...despite the changes in times.
@@davidbeppler3032 why? what is the difference between humans hunting whales for food and killer whales hunting whales for food? most whalers in history have done so for (primarily) whale meat. furthermore hunting whales for whale oil isn't particularly bad in itself (it was just the scale that made it bad). and even more whale oil lubrication allowed for the industrial revolution which resulted in the move towards social liberty (aswell as technological advancement and improved liveing conditions). ironically you wouldn't have the freedom to speak out against whaling nor the wealth to access the internet (if it would even exist) without the whaling industry. and even then wishing horrible deaths on people makes you just as bad or worse than said people, as it makes your a malicious wanna be murderer
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@@user-op8fg3ny3jno one will ever know what i have said :)
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@@joonaaleksi3556
You should do a video on crop circles real or hoax.
Imagine how many stories like this we would never know because there are no survivors to tell the tale.
underrated comment
@@Hippo0815very
@@Hippo0815 fr
dead men tell no tales
You'll never know
Fun fact: Sperm whales are capable of feeling complex emotions like grief and revenge. They can also recognize individual people and ships to exact revenge if you've wronged them.
Like crows?
That's only a "Fun fact" if you haven't wronged any whales... 🤣
Since the banning of whaling through most of the world, mothers will allow their calfs to come to the surface to greet passing vessels not seeing humans as the threats they used to be. Indian elephants are also notabally friendlier now they are not used as weapons of war.
@@divyanshsukhija6344 I said Indian elephants but I did say used by Indians, Iraq used them for transporting arms in 1987.
post nut clarity amiright
Mom: What did you learn on the old interwebs today son.
Me: Don't Fuck with Whales.
also, Don't fuck whales, that is not a good idea
@@PTSDZ yea, found that out through trying
@@PTSDZ 😂🤣🤣
@@il9375 🤣🤣
@@il9375 *no.*
It's probably worth mentioning that whalers would taken calves knowing the mothers wouldn't abandon them making them an easier target.
Like killing two whales with one stone, nice
@@99Stamswould that count as a cursed comment?
@@idiotgoddess2114no
Why is it worth mentioning. This was a typical way of hunting, even among animals
@@debbylou5729 what is that meant to mean?
The guys who stayed on the Island definitely made the smartest move in my opinion
Agreed, but then again, would they have been found if it wasn't for the others being found first and telling them there were 3 people on that specific island?
No the dude that ran away did
Could go either way, really...
A BETTER Idea would have been to leave as many people as possible on the island, and gather as much food/water as possible to take on the "get help mission". Using only a few crew members in 2 separate boats...
Would things have gone so well if rescue teams hadn't gone back to get the men on the island? Likely not.
Yeah but only because only 3 stayed..
Quite easy to say that afterwards.
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uhhhh, no.
Lol
@@bentonrp Atleast he and the team are putting more efforts in their videos than you are
Here-Here!!
I think he's better then "that chapter" honestly
3 Crewmates: We kinda just want to live out our lives on this tiny island. Make the best of it. Good luck out there!
- A few weeks later -
3 Crewmates: Oh hey! You guys lived! Wow thanks for rescuing us! Wait what? You ATE eachother????
They were way smarter.
Even after considering which way will be more comfortable, you probably have better chances of surviving longer on that island. You can get food and water there and everything you need.
*each other
Lol! I'll bet it happened just like that! 😄
They are very lucky that any crew member on those boats actually made it to safety on another ship because if all 20/more men stayed on the island, the amount of food would not be enough to sustain them all till a rescue boat comes (if any rescue boat would come to the island in the first place without anyone to fetch the boats). So you can say that the crew that sailed out sacrificed their life in return for the quick recovery of the crew left behind on the island.
In a situation like that, luck plays a major role and the 3 Crewmate has won the lottery. But someone definitely has to sail out in search of rescue which was just turned out to be the 17 men.
@@commander8625 yeah they could've ate the crabs and hunted them with the rocks.
It’s sad too that Pollard’s cousin, Owen Coffin, wasn’t actually supposed to go. He was too young when the ship first left Nantucket. So Pollard had to go back to his Aunt and explain that he killed and ate her son. That would make family dinners a little awkward.
"little"
Was that the character Tom Holland played?
He wasn’t even the youngest. Thomas Nickerson, who survived and is an ancestor of mine, was only 14 at the time this happened.
Bet she didn't serve meat.....😂
In the book, In the Heart of the Sea, Coffin's family never forgave Pollard and refused to speak to him for the rest of his life, even though the law of the sea would've been well known and accepted in Nantucket.
*Crude Oil discovered*
Whales:"Finnaly they will stop killin us"
*ships with oil sinks*
Whales: --bruh-- 😵
😂👌
Wtf is up with y’all’s pfp lmao
@@leifpeterson4850 what the hell is pfp?
@@anonymousart6360 profile pic
@@leifpeterson4850 I take it you don't know what anime is?
Hearing you say "tortoise" reminds me of how Stewy from Family Guy says "coolwhip"
Cool hwhip
Lolololollollol
Well, now you’re just being wheird
I was just looking for a comment like this 🤣
@@gregbors8364 I haven't the foggiest idea hwhat you're talking about
Fun Fact: according to the book 'In The Heart Of The Sea' about the events the first recorded person to ever suggest drawing lots at sea (in the 1600s) to see who would die was the one that drew the small straw and died.
"Uhhh... I was just pulling your peglegs, me mateys"
Bruh
"Lmao bro , I was joking..."
I have that book in my Google Books Library. Is it worth reading?
@@mariakelly1059 read it back in high school when I found out Thomas Nickerson was my great great grandfather or somewhere along that line.
I can't imagine how terrifying this experience must've been to the sailors involved. Nothing makes you tougher than the sea
boo hoo. Team Whale
@@24tommyst boo hoo team sailor has better gaming chairs
@@oliversherman2414 I don't recall the whale being forced to cannibalize its own kind
@@starlight0313 I don't recall team whale being stranded in the middle of nowhere
@@oliversherman2414moby won with negative diff
*ON THE ISLAND:*
"I wonder how our mates on the boats are faring?"
*ON THE BOATS:*
"I wonder how our mates on the island are tasting?"
The fact that the captain offered to sacrifice himself for the seventeen year old guy, who then refused, is absolutely heartbreaking.
Depending on who told the story upon returning that story could be bullshit and he didn’t offer to take his place coulda just said that to sound well
Interstingly, in the movie, they flipped it for some reason...captain drew short straw, cousin offered to take his place, then shot hismelf in the head.
@@sterger7 there is a movie about this? what is it named?
@@roberts2760 Heart of the Ocean, with the guy from thor in it..and spider man :) actually a real good flick.
@@sterger7 oh thank you!
It's amazing how a creative person, with only a brief input, can write an entire epic tale. The scope of human imagination and creativity never fails to amaze me 🙂
I think it is more amazing that some people create entire universes with no input outside of their imagination. Anyone can embellish an existing story; it takes a true master to make a story worth embellishing.
You should see the film by Ron Howard “In the Heart If the Sea” it’s an absolute true as possible story of not only what happened to the Essex, but also how the story was acquired by Herman Melville and turned into the book. It’s an amazing film!
Sandy Jamison actually this video is a total ripoff of another creator... Judge by yourself. ua-cam.com/video/QS299VkXZxI/v-deo.html
Melville was an expert on the whaling industry. The news caught his attention, but he knew what he was writing about.
And mass genocide of other species so lovely
I love how everything you tell us about the ships crew makes me feel less and less sorry for them.
My thoughts exactly😞
exactly. like dude, burning a whole island just for fun? :(
I think that is the point.
@@Evastories608😂 there were no snowflakes back then. That's what they did for a laugh.
Sacrificing yourself for the boys is real af 💪hella respect
Yeah that some real stoic shit. A true lad
Probably never happened more likely shot in the head while his back was turned. But you know stories are written by the survivors and all .
@@nenzonenzo Well yeah, but if you look at history like that we can't determine anything
at that point in their journey I would have welcomed a bullet in my brain
He probably committed suicide for them and to honor him they said he insisted to die after drawing the short stick.
Love when humans get primal to survive. It really shows how we consider ourselves apart from nature, but aren’t at all.
thank you for this.
civilised vs primal is a spectrum and we occupy all of it so yes, we are quite apart from nature in that aspect
@@desertkite2732 beautiful
Not really
& Yet The Mad greenys Make It like humans Are Not A Part Of Nature
“If you get lost at sea... you’ll be glad you still have all your hair!” 😂 Best segue to a sponsor ever!
I lietally read this as he said it 😂
why
@@cesarr2349 To not get sunburn on your head.
@@ahmadsalmanalnor9911 oh my god, you're right.
Worst for me, my puto eh, worst for me.
The Captain was a true warrior man went through all sorts of unbelievable shit and lived till his 70s.
That was the most interesting pronunciation of "tortoises" I've ever heard.
well how do u say it
@@miad5079 isn’t it pronounced tor-tiss
@@elizalaguera Yes.
Time?
@@ticalian 5:24
Fun fact: after the first hit from the whale Owen Chase tried to repair the damage with a hammer same wood, its also said that the mating call of this type of whale is a kind of tapping or dinging noise similar to that of a hammer on nails
Whale: *furious at the loss of it family and rams the ship*
The ship: *ooo yes, hit me harder daddy*
The whale probably thought he was ramming another male whale, realized it was stronger than him, and then left.
@@connecticutyankee9706yea, but they are very smart so idk, i mean how do you explain the first ram? There wasn't hammer sounds
@@vcommandarv5916 curious maybe the whale may never seen a ship or it's seen em just never got close n it was testing itself or my personal theory is that the whale wanted snu snu from the captain
@@Rap_music-reviews what's snu snu?
I started losing my hair at 16. My biggest tip is just go bald. Shave it bald keep it bald. Embrace it and love yourself.
I started getting hairy bout the same time , I’m now forty not even shaving helps guess the grass is always greener lol
Just go bald and grow a beard lol
Women find bald men sexy, BTW
@@amylarson3958 ok...
@@amylarson3958 completely depends on the woman, and after that the rest of the mans features, stating 'women like bald men' is 100% generalising and utter bs
Reading into Mungo Park was extraordinarily fascinating. And all you had to do was say his name! Can't wait to finish this video if I can stop finding myself going down rabbit holes of New knowledge!
Is it weird that I'm more disturbed that they stacked tortoises then that they ate each other
Yes.
Well, after the inhumanity of stacking tortoises as a kind of "living lunchbox", cannibalism automatically enters as a logical progression of possibility, so it's not that weird...
That and the needless fire... the jerks had it coming.
John Bowerman i can see why they left all that out of the movie
No.
There’s a movie called : IN THE HEART OF THE SEA. It’s a movie about this , Chris hemsworth and a few other very good actors are in it including Tom Holland
With all due respect to Chris Helsworth ( a fine actor )...the book of the same name, written by Nathaniel Filbrick, is much much better.... read it , you won't be disappointed
The movie was great but it didn’t really capture the entire book or are the true story
@@johnp1277 I just finished reading it, and I would recommend it very highly
I’ll have to check it out. I love movies about being out at sea.
Read the book a few years ago and you're right...the book is far better
They say the ship was cursed, I think it was more of karma 😂😂
Moby Dick invented instant karma
Agreed
Yes!
@@PureVikingPowers yes but uh whats up with that checkmark bruh
That's funny lmao they died so the suckers would eat
With the stories you tell and especially how great you are at telling them it is hard to believe that this is real history that inspired much fiction and not the other way around! great job man, keep it up, thank you!
Fun Fact: Sperm Whales have been known to live for over 70 years, meaning that the real Moby Dick probably could've still been alive for years even after the novel dropped
@Kris De Roo did... did you even watch the video? And obviously "Moby Dick" was fictional, I'm still calling the actual whale Moby. There was literal reports of this event happening back when it did. They literally rescued the living crewmates
@Kris De Roo show me a book. Show me at least *one* book about this. Also most people who say "I know more than xxxxx" have always turned out to be dumb but if you are really insistent on proving Thoughty, me, or anyone else (including fucking wikipedia, which while is open to everyone editing, is checked by a whole slew of moderators, and has plenty of sources to back this up), then go right ahead.
@Kris De Roo first off, where is the name "Mocha Dick" coming from? Nobody called it that. Second, you talk about Owen, but you forget about Thomas Nickerson, the cabin boy, who also wrote about this exact event later in his life, and communication back then was not like today's, so there's no way Owen and Tom were in kahoots or Tom was "clout chasing". The *newspapers* about it still took several days to go around anyways, so there's that. Assuming that you are completely denying the ship's destruction at all, look at the references on Wikipedia, if you are denying it was destroyed by a whale, technically I can't 'deny' that possibility (despite the numerous testimonies), *But* ships have been sunken by whale attacks before, including as far recent as 1999. Also, you still haven't brought up any source that disproves this ever happened. Also what the fuck does me saying "literal" several times have anything to do with this? It's like you brought this up as a last ditch "gotcha" moment but it's really moot. Nobody gives a shit about how you form your sentences unless they are completely grammatically incorrect. i am still willing to be proven wrong, is there anything I could look at that proves anyone here wrong?
@@canyounotmydude9155why are you arguing with yourself 😭
@@Costenos The guy he was arguing with pro'ly deleted his comment/s
“The crew weren’t disappointed, the ocean before them was bussin” that’s all I heard
7:00
"Bussin" ... "with whale activity". 😏
"Respectfully!"
"Our journey begins in early 19th century Nantucket."
That reminds me of the tale of that one man from Nantucket
You mean the one that sat down on his bucket?
That was gruesome. Epic history vid...
I would've started with eating the 🍑 first. That's the real delicacy of a human.
Haven't lost my hair.
It's in a box at the back of my sock drawer.
Omg I was once collecting my hair toooo XD
I’m doing what thanos did not, I collect ROCKS
@@CarnivorousConnor **crystal**
@@temujinkhagan5308
no, I collect geodudes
@@CarnivorousConnor They're minerals 😡
"For there is no folly of the beast of the earth which is not infinitely outdone by the madness of men." [Ishmael]
Great line
I know that’s right. Preach Ish 🙌
Just found this channel today and I must say that it really caught me eye, good animation, great story telling and very thorough with the facts
The whole act of whaling was incredibly cruel and disgusting.
Yes, but even more disgusting is the modern whaling fleets that continue to murder a now known to be sentient creature for no particular reason.
The reason is profit
I love how many sanctimonious people are on this thread as if they'd have been better human back in the 1820s. ALL OF YOU would have used Whale Oil products, products made from Whale Bones, had you been on island starving you'd have eaten every tortious and turtle you can get your hands on.
You think you're better.....the computer or smart phone you're using to watch this was more than likely made with 3rd world child slave labor hands with components that were stripped mined in places that reek havoc on the environment and the local population. But you're so much better than the "whalers" and the people that relied on whale oil
@@jandrews6254 money trumps all.
@@enhancedphysique6452sin. not money. money is the root of all greed. greed is a sin. people are greedy and sinful, and there’s no changing that EVER. god made us imperfect, no man will ever be pure of sin. put your faith in god, and his son who died on the cross. so you may sin, and be forgiven. sin again, and be forgiven.
8:05 Fun fact, they also have hip bones because they are also mammals. It’s a lil souvenir from when their ancestors walked on land.
Respectfully, they are not vesitigial from land walking, but still used, as I understand, for helping hold the hip area together during birth.
They have small pelvic remnants used for sexual reproduction, not whole pelvises
They never walked on land, evolution is fake.
I believe Teatur_ because evolution of different lizards, birds, and other species. Many mammals look, act, and have similar features as whales, such as: hippopotamus, platypus, and more. Due to this - prehistoric creatures could have evolved into sea mammals like whales, and kept their hip bones.
I'm shocked that the surviving crew wasn't shunned by modern society.
At that time it must've been common and makes more sense
Many cases of cannibalism from desperation is tolerated as a means of survival.
I read that the survivers of the Donner party were shunned by their neighbors when they reached Cali.
@@jefffarris3359 They proved that the Donner party did not resort to eating human flesh what you going on about? context of all bones found all that showed clear signs of being eaten where non human, they did down dog meat but heck that was a common practice of the time when meat was not a plenty
@@heliosgnosis2744 the donner survivors literally said they ate the people who had died and there were journals from them too.
"There once was a ship that put to sea, the name of the ship was the Billy of Tea-"
" *SOON MAY THE WELLERMAN COME, TO BRING US SUGAR AND TEA AND RUM* "
@@kilzfordays one day when the tonguing is done we’ll take our leave and go
@@1Joshrustownage go to our homeland where we can bang
@@kilzfordays ahh yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.
Hello there, oh wait two things are wrong with this comment, wrong lyrics and that's kenobi who says it (grievous says it in TCW but that's a different grievous) there's gonna be that one person who has never watched star wars reading this
7:32 you trying to tell me Assasins Creed Black Flag was accurate?😂
bro, you are an amazing speaker, presenter and grower of glorious mustache' s!!
I've learnt so much from this channel and can't stop watching!!
Never stop feeding us knowledge!
I read that the whale that attacked the ship was not doing it out of revenge.
they feel that the ship arrived during mating, so the male whales were more aggressive, and as the whaling ships were doing their duty, the workers on the ship were doing repairs. The hammering is assumed to be what attracted the attacking whale, seeing it as a rival, and wanting it removed from area.
Brother sperm whales are a lot smarter than given credit for here
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It's extremely unlikely that this never happened the way they tell it. Come on now. A sperm whale attacking a ship? Sounds to me they needed some ridiculous story to justify their cannibalism.
@@bmsuperstar1 Tell me you know nothing about sperm whales without telling me you know nothing about sperm whales
@@bmsuperstar1 lol what? What would that have to do with them eating each other? That's happened many times from people being stranded at sea or on desert islands.
They forgot an interesting part of the story. On the way to Chile one of the whaling boats was attacked by an orca.
what!? really? there have been no known attacks on humans I thought?
@@SeanDiego Yeah it was in the Novel Revenge Of the Whale which details the entire story.
Is there any evidence of it being the Simon Bolivar Youth Orca?
I mean orcas are predators they probably tought the boat was a prey and not wooden floaty thing
@@hansjurgen4567 well they might have tought the boat was food you know
BAM!!!!...another amazing video m8, as a writer of short stories, mostly about the paranormal and certain cryptids, I am sensitive to writing, good and bad (imo) and I love your ability to write amazing scripts and I absolutely and immensely enjoy your endings.... always brilliant, well done m8.
Bro the tortoise part pissed me off so much but I guess they had to eat. I love my tortoises tho I'm glad nobody's gonna eat my shell bois.
why are they cool?
Reportedly tastes better than bacon. Think about that.
Indigenous people in Australia are allowed to hunt and eat native animals, including turtles because it was their natural fare.
@@niki4013 My people ate bald eagles. So can I?
@@davidbeppler3032 I didn’t say I agreed with it, I was just mentioning it. I’m an wildlife hobbyist photographer, I just wanted to get other people’s views on it.
I haven’t a problem with people hunting animals that are in abundance, when done properly, it’s way more humane and less wasteful than the meat industry. However, I do take issue with people killing animals that are endangered, or killing just to kill. A couple of years ago, an indigenous man was recorded killing a poor wombat, very cruelly and slowly with a rock. He had his friend shine car lights on the poor creature to confuse it. This guy was a bloody police officer, and he got away with it, even though it was obvious animal cruelty and was just discarded on the side of the road afterwards.☹️
Who are your people? Do they still hunt?
“to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee.” ~ Moby-Dick
"God help thee, old man, thy thoughts have created a creature in thee; and he whose intense thinking thus makes him a Prometheus; a vulture feeds upon that heart forever, that vulture the very creature he creates."
@@Mystikan Yes! Very Good. Be Safe out there. Peace & Health to Us All.
Oy.
1:10 I was very much expecting a "which, if you haven't heard, was a disaster for the human race"
Mr. Ted is that you
Oh yeah things were much better for the human race back before things like electricity, clean water, and modern medical care. I think we all wish we could return to a time when average life expectancy was about 35-40 years.
@@phaedrus000 yeah, but plastik, trash and pollution and stuff or whatever...
@@phaedrus000 itself not about plastic or pollution of the seas, it's about the pollution of the soul
The average peasant probably was more content with his life than the average Joe now
Yeah they may die from measles or whatever but he had a family, led a simple life, was satisfied with it, and didn't have to see anything similar to Twitter
@@omikron6218 no zero to three sad onions.
I read the book years ago and its absolutely fascinating. Your video presentation was fantastic!!! Thank you for taking the time and sharing it 😊
Shipmate: dies
Crewmates: Its free real estate
first ever time watching your vids, sounds so warm and relaxing, you are a great storyteller indeed !
Awesome tale! I grew up spending aummers on Nantucket with a fundamental knowledge of whaling history. The logs of most of these journeys, which migrated from only the Atlantic seaboard to a global pursuit of the quarry, are well documented and preserved on island in a special museum. I would be certain to say that gruesome accounts can be found among the journals in this museum.
The movie “heart of the sea” about this true story is supppppper underrated. Deserved to be seen as a classic imo
I really enjoyed “ In the heart of the sea”
Same
It is a good movie
the book is far, far better
I remember when Ask A Mortician covered this, it will be cool to see Thoughtys perspective of this.
She went to town with this one....
It's called plagiarism.
Seen that one too and she, as always, painted a nice picture indeed
@@MidnightatMidian in this case, it was a pretty different take on a similar subject. She was more about the whale, while he was about the crew.
@@collectingonthecheap56353 Absolutely not, her video was focused on the crew, his vid was slightly more focused on the whale, and he also copied the counting of deaths at the end. He also copied another vid of her earlier this month.
Honestly, I was rooting against them as soon as you got to the tortoises.
Me too!
So you care more for the life of animals then that of humans, you are a terrible person
@@brycelinnarz9387 why?
Same, they could have given the turtles water at least esp since they can consume sea water. A year without water is cruel.
@@brycelinnarz9387 i value all life the same, and those tortoises suffered a similar fate to them, as well as the whales, it is only fair
16:48 crewmate: that necklace is disrespectful.
Captain: well it’s fashionable 😤
Skeletons: really 💀
I remember hearing about another whale story about a creature called Moka Dick. Called that because it was eventually killed by an alliance of 5 whaling ships off the coast of Moka island. The whale was known for attacking whaling boats and whole ships sinking several of each.
Good for the whale.
@Kris De Roo I see.
@Kris De Roo there’s plenty of evidence, no? I can’t link you anything from the top of my head, but I’ve read some articles about Mocha Dick and he was pretty real
Moby dick is based on mocka dick
I love it when Darcy puts on a moustache to fill the role of Thoughty. You go Fairbairn boys!
That is the craziest story I've ever heard.
Great narration and attire, it fits the era along with the moustache.
When nature fights back
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"Oh the irony"
Me: I don't get it, why?
A few minute later
Me: owh
If I ever have children, I want you to be their godfather and tell them gruesome bedtime stories. That was just a brilliant tale!
I love the little sound effects used in these tales. The sounds of the men Gnawing, the little barely audible groaning and/or mulling about etc. Awesome and certainly adds to the drama. Thanks.
recommend reading "In the Heart of the Sea" Nathanial Philbrick... a great read and has all the stories around this, as well as story of Nantucket whale trade etc .. award winning book. the captain of the Essex was an experienced seaman, but inexperienced captain who actually lost TWO ships he commanded. He ended up working as a night watchman back on Nantucket and was known to store caches of food around his house.. a legacy of his trauma i suppose.
Original title: "What Happened When A Whale Took Revenge On Humans?"
Ah yes, the Essex. I remember when I first heard of it and I was in awe that the story of Moby Dick really did have some basis in reality. It was also really nice to find a story where the whale wins for once; without them and their oil we wouldn't have gotten as far as we have as a society, but that doesn't mean I feel good about forcing them to near extinction. Another story you should definitely cover is the story of a whale who, in my opinion, far outdid the Essex in telling the story of a white whale that fought back against the hunters. His name was Mocha Dick. Look him up. :)
mocha dick is literally the whale that inspired moby dick, they just changed the name
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I'm sorry the name- I can't take it seriously. All jokes aside society back then was dependent on whale oil since without them there would be no light
The whalers got fucked by Mocha Dick. “A bull of prodigious size” according to Jeremiah Reynolds, the explorer who catalogued his encounters.
I just finished watching In the Heart of Sea. Beautiful movie. I learnt quite a lot of the American Whaling industry. Couldn't believe such a story is real and really happened!!!
When Thoughy2 uploads:
*Hey, Where my headphones are?*
his voices is soo soothing
I often share his vids at work.
I would like but you got 69 likes
@@theskeletons9234 _NICE_
@@rvxn B)
Nantucket Sleighride was a great rock tune by Mountain, used as the theme tune to Weekend World for decades in the UK!
Classic song.
That’s a trip, I just watched the film “In the Heart of the Sea” last night. All about the true story of Moby Dick and what happened to the Essex. Fantastic film! Chris Hemsworth was the first mate, but it was BS as he was supposed to be given his captaincy but they lied and gave it to Pollard. Who hadn’t ever even gone on a trip! Truly bad idea.
Added it to my ongoing playlist. It's going on next, matter of fact. Followed by some Gn'R, Food Fighters, Soundgarden & Johnny Cash...
I never knew the name had any other meaning. Thought it was just a sort of Winter song ...
My favorite movie of all time used to be Jaws, until about 20 years ago, when I saw the 1956 version of Moby Dick starring Gregory Peck. It became one of the few times that I saw a movie before reading the book upon which it was based- I began to read the book the very next day after seeing it. The movie quickly supplanted Jaws as my favorite, especially since I realized that they were the same story, at the core. I still love Jaws, and watch it every summer- usually just before or during my family’s yearly vacation on Cape Cod. But I’ll watch Moby Dick at any time of year, and if I’m ever in a hurry to leave the house for an appointment or something, and haven’t yet had time to pick a book to bring, (or don’t have time to retrieve the one I’m currently reading), I will always just grab my copy of Moby Dick from the shelf by the door. I know that I’ll never be bored, and if I do pull that one out, I know that I’m going to read the whole thing again before putting it back on the shelf. I will wholeheartedly encourage anyone who hasn’t read this strange and wonderful book to give it a try- while the basic story is an adventure about whaling, there’s so much more there than many would suspect- history, religion, philosophy, etc. Or if you’re not big on reading, the movie is incredibly good- the writing, the special effects (pre-CGI, of course), the cinematography, and damn- the acting!- it’s so enjoyable. Anyway- sorry to harp so long- thanks for the great video, I found it to be really enjoyable. And, stay safe and healthy, everyone.
This was such a passionate and well written read. Thank you
@@Chez114 Thanks so much for the kind words! It’s always a bit of a gamble when I write something like that, as to whether it’ll be well-received, or if someone will (mysteriously) be offended by it and start tossing insults. So- thank you- you made my day🙂
@@tunguskalumberjack9987 I get what you mean. But if you stand by what you say, I think you should always risk losing a few for the many who would appreciate your thoughts. It's a pleasure. Keep writing, my friend.
@@Chez114 Once again, thank you! As long as I feel strongly enough about a subject, I generally find it worth putting it out there for people like you and I to enjoy. Thanks again, my friend!
@@tunguskalumberjack9987 Good on you bud. Always a pleasure 💪
I loved the bit halfway through when they did an AD for BALDNESS!
Have to admit, after such a long time... 42 still knows how to make a good yarn Even better.
Excellent narration! I’ve never heard the story told so well.
I love the novel and have read it several times only to relive the story of the book. It's written in the most sophisticated way possible. It sparked my interest in writing and the sea. I wish I write something that precious like Moby Dick :) thanks for this video 🥺
Hearing you say 'Tortoise' was something I never knew I needed to hear
I read this in history once, and it haunted me for years. Why did I come back??? 😩
I have the book about the Essex and the story is unbelievable! Very Interesting! Thanks Thoughty2! Keep up the great stories!
and those three crewmates that opt to stay in the island never also regretted doing so...
Today, among other deeply disturbing things, I learned about the storage of live tortoises.
my family came to nantucket in the 1620’s and we were whalers here. i’m directly related to Nickerson and owen chase. it’s truly a tragedy
A tragedy that your corrupt lineage is still alive.
I spent a significant portion of my childhood in New Bedford MA. I fell in love with history of whaling in 19th century. New Bedford eclipsed Nantucket as the whaling capital. Of course I read Melville's "Moby Dick" but, there were so many other stories, both fact and fiction to feed my inquisitive mind. Although I have moved far away from romanticising the whaling era I still have a fascination with those who sailed and lowered the boats to chase and catch a whale or have their boat stove in by a whale's jaws or be licked to the devil by the whatle's flukes. I still go back to New Bedford when I can and the romance of the sea is still there...despite the changes in times.
Whales are really clever this one actually planned his revenge on the crew.
Brilliant production, well done to the channel.
He is the Founder of the: „How you know i‘m Bri‘ish ?“- Starterpack
Amazing story. Quite fun watching your early videos . They were okay but now you have reached the finest level. Impressed by your voyage
I'm 40 and I deliberately shave my full head of hair to troll my brother who is already half bald at 30 😂😂
Funny
The whale enacted revenge for the sea turtles.
I feel very bad for Coffin. He was only 17 but decided to sacrifice himself and was shot by his own best friend.
And then one of the people who ate him died shortly after, so had they waited a few days maybe it wouldn't even have been necessary.
@@BlueUncia 😅😅😅😅
This is me name. Freaky.
My sister can't sunbathe on the beach anymore. A crowd always gathers to push her back into the water.
Noice
rude
bully-_-
By your “ sister “ you really mean yourself don’t you 😂
@@felixculpa9303
I'll bet that whenever you go to the beach you kick sand in your own face don't you?😅
You told an amazing story...chill bumps.
Superbly done, your storytelling methods are definitely eye candy. 🤩
Your channel feels like a BBC documentary! Such a good presentation and quality of information.
Why do I get a satisfied smirk if nature hits back?
It’s just too bad that every single one of them didn’t die miserable deaths.
@@scatdog1 Every whaler ever? Yes, I agree.
@@davidbeppler3032 those whalers made it possible for your wannabe hipster ass to pass judgment
@@davidbeppler3032 why? what is the difference between humans hunting whales for food and killer whales hunting whales for food? most whalers in history have done so for (primarily) whale meat.
furthermore hunting whales for whale oil isn't particularly bad in itself (it was just the scale that made it bad). and even more whale oil lubrication allowed for the industrial revolution which resulted in the move towards social liberty (aswell as technological advancement and improved liveing conditions). ironically you wouldn't have the freedom to speak out against whaling nor the wealth to access the internet (if it would even exist) without the whaling industry.
and even then wishing horrible deaths on people makes you just as bad or worse than said people, as it makes your a malicious wanna be murderer
@@scatdog1 Alright Edgelord.
It gave me chills. Greetings from Paraguay.
Mbaetecó, che ra-á?
Your stuff is always great. So thankful that you keep sharing these with us.
You're a great story teller Arran 🙂, I could listen to you for hours
I can easily say this is the most disturbing story I have heard and I watch a LOT of these kind of videos
I feel so sorry for those tortoises 🤣
yeah