Something interesting to note: -In Legends Arceus, Giratina basically teams up with Volo to stop you and ultimately meet Arceus, both have the desire to do so with Volo wanting to remake the world and Giratina wanting to take revenge for being outcast. After the (INSANE) battle, Giratina flees. -200 years later, in Platinum, Cyrus is up there, the same exact location where you fought Volo, he has both Dialga and Palkia under control, about to remakee the world, but Giratina comes back. This time Giratina learned that Volo was out of his mind, and that now the same goes for Cyrus. This time Giratina won't flee, taking Cyrus into the Distorsion World to save not just Sinnoh but the entire universe. Giratina got a 2 centuries long redemption arc.
I also like how when you talk to Giratina, it says something like “Giratina is just staring at you”. With context now, that’s probably because Giratina acknowledges you as you used to own it, but of course you wouldn’t remember, and is probably another reason why he took Cyrus likely to protect your character. If that is the case then our character probably either did go back to the future at some point, or a past and future Lucas/Dawn exist
@Naeshaun Edwards I may be remembering wrong, but isnt it implied that your character in Legends Arceus is the Professor's Assistant from Platinum? It might just be a fan theory though, so don't quote me on that.
Giratina was set on destroying Hisui with Volo, but once defeated, understanding it was no match for the player, decided to go on as Hisui's protector, which is why in the future when Cyrus makes an attempt of repeating Volo's plan, Giratina flys into a rage
I like to think that if Volo had brought all the Plates together and Arceus hadn't appeared despite that, Giratina would have gotten pretty pissed off and killed the guy. Getting at Arceus is Giratina's first priority. If that's not a possibility, he's gonna try to keep his future pawns alive.
@@Nova-_- my theory is that giratina and Volo actually succeeded and Managed to reach close to arceus and that’s why we were yoinked from the future because no one in history at tht time could rival Volos skill in battles. This is backed up by something Volo says during his betrayal, “it’s almost as if u were sent here to stop me”
That means Dawn/Lucas stopped the end of the world two times, one in the past and then later in the future. Dawn/Lucas are definitely the strongest protagonists in the pokemon universe, befriended time, space, satan and god himself.
You fight three times in a row. You fight Volo, who’s team is basically Cynthia’s. You fight Giratina Then you fight Giratina again. And you can’t heal between battles. This is the closest we have gotten to an actual boss rush.
It shows his character development in Platinum was basically started here given that he stops Cyrus from doing basically the same shit he and Volo tried to do in this game. It's also my new personal Headcanon that the reason Giratina studies you quietly before you fight him in Platinum is because Akari/Rei look exactly like Dawn/Lucas so he's getting some flashbacks to when he got set on a Better Path.
@@dravensanders6157 Legends has a fair amount of story lore in the game (regarding the Creation Trio) that D/P/Pt make references to it despite that they came out long before Legends did. In the originals (Diamond/Pearl), before you fight your game's mascot Legendary, Prof. Rowan and Lucas/Dawn tell your character that Dialga/Palkia apparently trust you enough that you can end their suffering after they were forcibly summoned against their wills by Cyrus. This is a call'forward' to Legends where you prevent the 'Almight Sinnoh' that the Clan Leader you picked from succumbing to their frenzied state and they bond with you enough to where they want you to use them against their fully frenzied counterpart. In Diamond/Pearl, your uncanny resemblance to the Protagonist from the past reminds them that you perhaps share that same potential to prevent the same disaster that one befell on Ancient Hisui/Sinnoh. In Platinum, Giratina's revenge against Cyrus is also a call'forward' to Legend as it distinctly remembers nearly wiping out and resetting reality alongside Volo which was a mistake for it and it seeks to not let it ever happen again. It was humbled upon losing to Legend's Protagonist, according to Volo as your Professor tells you. This is seen when Giratina briefly observes your character in Platinum before fighting you, it senses a very similar presence even if you're not the same person. You remind it of when it was humbled and began to mellow down from seeking revenge against Arceus.
@@officersoulknight6321 Well, after he was manipulated by Volo to create the rift, and then defeated by Rei/Akari at what is now Spear Pillar, Giratina fled to Turnback Cave. In a sidequest you get after defeating Volo, you can go to Turnback Cave to refight and catch Giratina. When you talk to Laventon after doing so, the professor will then explain how the events at Spear Pillar disillusioned and humbled the Pokémon to the point where he abandoned his grudge against Arceus for its exile, and chose to become Sinnoh’s protector, hence his role in Platinum.
A thought occurs to me. I wondered why Giratina had a different looking Origin Forme compared to Dialga and Palkia's. You'd think it was just cause Dialga and Palkia got theirs a good decade and then some after Giratina did, but lore wise, I realized there is a reason why. Palkia's Pokedex entry by Laventon states their Origin Forme was a result of them, and by extension Dialga, were attempting to assume the form of their creator and parent Arceus to channel more power with their shape as The Original One. This implies that Dialga and Palkia place and hold a strong sense of duty and respect towards their parent for who and what they are. Giratina doesn't do this, taking on his own shape. Why? Volo told us why. Giratina hates his own parent for being bound to the Distortion World for his violence. His classification as the Renegade makes more sense. He is rebelling in more ways than one, a willing traitor to his father physically, and his principles as The Original One.
I swear, I beat Volo on my second try without much trouble, and just as I was considering how it wasn’t really all that for a final battle, the game suddenly went full cinematic on me. And the freakin fear I felt as Giratina appeared, holy crap. That is probably the most excited I’ve been in a Pokémon game for ages now.
The little fake out where Giratina leaned back, and then it’s eyes glowed red before it changed forms made me actually freak out, such an amazing moment, if not one that was absolutely bs because I had 1 Pokémon left and he instantly outsped doubled me lmao
I legit had a rough battle here, after volo i had 2 mons and at this point i was around 68-70 in terms of levels myself, it was a mission and a half of me strategising what to do and barely managing to win till the lean back and i legit was like; "oh fuck he aint done yet is he?" Boy did i go into a hard part 2, but god dam did the music shift into his origin form fkin make me lose my mind for 2 reasons, 1) it was fkin dope and 2) i wasnt done yet
I don't get why the legendary pokemon are in all the games except gen 1 and 2 are so easy to put down. FFS, they're the most powerful beings in that region/world. I remember trying to fight Mewtwo in gen 1. That was a terrible idea. I don't mean the GBA remakes. I mean the OG Gen 1. Even the bird trio give you a solid ass beating. Gen 2, the dogs were obnoxious.
@@Ujiyo I know right?! That's what pissed me off so easily about Pokemon, it was the way they treated the most powerful ones. For fucks sake you could put down Mewtwo with a house rat in present games. I am SO happy with the treatment they've done creation squad, I hope they treat other legendaries in other games the same way as these 4. Edit: typo
the fact giratina just says "sike, I was holding back" and then an ELECTRIC GUITAR kicks in makes this probably one of the most memorable moments in this game
it's literally a rock remix of giratina's original theme in a game where music is mostly the traditional Japanese style. Bro's literally splitting open the fabrics of reality while battling you
I know there’s been a few Legendaries like Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza and Mewtwo that have had character development in the series but I legit think Giratina is the most improved out of all of them, PLA has shown he began with rage after feeling neglected when Arceus created him desiring to fight his creator but after the events with Volo (if you don’t count the player catching him) he calms his spirit and returns to the distortion world waiting as a protector until the events of Platinum where he actively try’s to stop Cyrus as he sees the same person he saw in Volo and succeeded in protecting the world. That…right there is genius build up for a fan favourite Legendary and I’m all for it!
Even if giratina is catched it is said in the lore that legendaries can snap out of the pokeballs whenever they want too so even if you catch giratina this is still accurate
I think they are getting tired of their games being called easy lmao. This was such a fun battle. I had to make a whole new team from scratch, and I'm glad most of his pokemon share weaknesses, since this battle is basically a 6v8. I just can't explain the feeling of hype when I was left with my froslass, both giratina and her one hit away from losing, and knowing I just had to hit an ice beam against the evasion boosted giratina
@Carlo Carugati I'd argue against that. Most of the Noble Pokémon were difficult overall (Arcanine was the toughest of them imo; the attack patterns were really strange), and Alpha Pokémon can really give your team a good licking too, if you decide to go for those. And don't get me started on Space-Time distortions; so many 1v3 fights where the mons are similarly leveled to you can be brutal to your healing supply if you don't have good immunities across your team
Never have I gone from a feeling of high hope to a feeling of utter despair so quickly as when Giritina reverted to Origin form and regained all its health back
you have summarized my emotions so adequately. i keep replaying the electric guitar to orchestral hits part when the eyes flash red and i get CHILLS EVERYTIME this is truly a masterpiece
I think the big thing that makes this track stand out is that it is FAR less reliant on the old-fashioned sound of all the other music in the game. It openly and proudly uses electric guitar, bass, electronic sounds... It's just amazing because it makes a distinction that this battle, this legendary, is DIFFERENT. You WILL take this fight seriously, or you will be spanked hard.
It might also have to do with the fact that Giratina pretty muchs hates the world and everything in in so instead of the song following the normal music choices its more sparattic and chaotic (But those also just fitting more with Giratina in general)
Agreed, Pokemon Arceus is the TRUE spiritual successor to Pokemon Platinum. Those Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl games need to be sent to the shadow realm were they belong
Never, in my entire life as a pokemon fan, have ever seen a main series battle go through phases. LET ALONE 3. Giritina was given so much justice in this game, I'm glad they got a fair shake at being the big bad guy.
I find it interesting that giratinas statue is alone, but higher and closer up to the spear pillar in comparison to dialga and palkia. Someone also slashed giratina right down the middle too. Giratina being able to hold its own origin forme without the help of Arceus shows how powerful it is. Dialga and palkia had to basically mimic Arceus to get a fraction of what giratina naturally has. I wonder in the past was giratina revered so highly. Wonder what happened.
I think it's a clear callback to Giratina being based on Satan. In Christian theology, Satan was once Lucifer, the most beautiful and powerful of all of the archangels, second to God only. But he let it get to his head; and so Lucifer plotted against God, and failed. It's likely the Pokemon team is trying to evoke a similar idea here.
@@swagathan5 But, due to being defeated, Giratina was humbled. Hence why it's a pseudo good natured pokemon in platinum, and why it wants to stop Cyrus
Actually they are equal in powers. What happened was that volo helped giratina boost by having it use its origin form in the real world. And while in return he was supposed to see arceus himself. But what giratina did was just open a distortion in time and space with its boosted origin form and arceus made the player go through the gap and the rest is history. And apparently it made the time and space gods mad and they started wrecking stuff. And yeah Volo had the gracious core boosting giratina. And they were apparently close to complete the plan (I don't know how) which made giratina stronger (you know, the terrible might thing). But when giratina was defeated, he was lone abandoned again and was captured by the player easily. So in a way giratina with a help from volo was supposedly stronger than palkia, and dialga but now they are called equals again in their respective dimensions.
@@swagathan5 And giratina's origin form was based on the snake that made Eve eat the apple of knowledge. So in a way Arceus who was having 1 billion arms, stripped giratina of his limbs and banished it. And so giratina was only able to use it's power in the distortion world.
@@deinonychus1948 Fuck this game ! Giratina literally has every move to counter my team Earth power for my Infernape Shadow Force destroy Gardevoir and my team neutral Aura Sphere to hit Sammort and Hounhcrow Dragon Claw to hit Garchomp And Roserade walls all four but does nothing to Giratina Edit : Laugh) It seems that people still can’t get over me been salty about endgame , does making people cry about such thing actually show how great the difficulty it has ?
I love how it looks like Giratina is gonna go into a normal KO animation but then it just like, stops, rears its head with flashing eyes and shadows pouring out, and transforms, as the music goes from “normal Sinnoh legendary” to this. In a game that cuts to black way too often for cutscene purposes, I’m so happy this battle didn’t do that, and they did one of the coolest phase transition cutscenes the series has perhaps ever attempted. Like I say, mid battle, no cut to a cutscene or cut to black, they just fake you out and transition right then! Feels so much more intimidating from a gameplay perspective for the battle to just simply not end when you’re expecting it to.
0:12 Has to be the sickest musical transition in Pokemon! I was so angry when I first heard it because I KNEW what was coming and had only one Pokemon left in my party lol
I was struggling to get past its first form and I was like "Yes baby I'm a winner" and then I saw its weird animation... and the glowy eyes... and it was the end.
I don't know, PLA was amazing but I'm still salty about the hot pile of garbage that was BDSP. PLA is more of a stand-alone game, Sinnoh still deserved a proper remake imo
Seriously the transition from the legendary Pokemon theme to Giratina theme is so damn good. I really like this fight tbh. I hope they follow the good parts from this game and make another Pokemon legends type game with even better graphics and designs.
@@theabsolutetrashman3708 this is a mainline game tho, so this might be the new norm and im hyped for it, i just hope they outsource the graphics rather then whole games this time
I really hope Game Freak outsources to Monolith for the graphics and optimization for future games. That way Game Freak can focus on game design and Pokemon models.
I was thinking "What would make a legendary Pokémon fight actually difficult without making it way overleveled or giving it omni-boosts like Ultra Necrozma"? Turns out the solution is actually simple: Let it Battle you immediately after most of your team just got wiped out without giving you a chance of recovering and with 2 lives so you cannot end the fight in one-shot without it having a chance to retaliate.
They did give it an omni boost, although to be fair I'm pretty sure it's not as big as Ultra Necrozma. Putting it after an already powerful team and having multiple phases, however, greatly reduces your options to cheese it, a big problem Ultra Necrozma faced with, in a game where its already harder to cheese bosses.
@@OnceandFutureSoph Yep, and in the case of Ultra Necrozma, that's not the only option. It can also be killed using Toxic due to its lack of recovery moves, and the AI is incapable of processing the existence of Zorua and Zoroark.
For those who don’t know, here’s what happened with Giratina: It was worshipped alongside Palkia and Dialga as lesser deities with Arceus as the supreme god. It’s clear they held Giratina as stronger than the other two as his statue is higher on the mountain. However, Giratina rebels and his statue is destroyed by disillusioned worshippers. Giratina is then banished once it is subdued. Volo is the “life isn’t fair because I don’t get what I want” kind of guy so he tries to free Giratina. This is why Arceus sends us back, to stop them. The distortion also causes one of the other two to go feral. Theory: They were all going to betray Arceus at some point. However, palkia and dialga were equal opposites. They gained power trying to copy their master and fought each other for control but remained at an impasse. So all Giratina has to worry about is the big guy himself. But he underestimated the power gap. Arceus creates, Giratina can only alter or corrupt. Arceus won, and the other two fell in line.
I remember reading in bulbapedia, when giratina has absorbed enough powers, it could retain its origin forme in the real world. It would be powerful enough to rival even the Original One Holy distortion world...
I fought Giratina for the first time yesterday, said a genuine WTF when the second phase happened, and then my final pokemon fainted right as the flatline happened, 10/10 game.
The moment Giritina got back up is the moment I realized what I was in for. Thank you Drifblim for tanking all of Roserades attacks allowing me to heal up my party in preparation.
The moment Giratina got back up is the moment I realized what I was in for. Thank you Sylveon for taking all of the hits from Giratina, allowing me to revive Shaymin and finally beat this beast of a Pokémon. Edit: If you don't know, I got to Phase 2 of Giratina's fight, and I still have 3 Pokémon still alive. That being Samurott, Sylveon, and Shaymin. In that same battle, I decided to use Status moves on Giratina so it's easier to deal with, then I let Sylveon to be defeated by Giratina so that Shaymin can defeat Giratina. Edit again: I know, I know, it's unfair to use Mythical Pokemon, but I'm not embarrassed to say that I beat Volo and Giratina first try. It took me a long time since I did this.
Also a slight reminder for those unaware, during the Volo fight, Giratina is in his altered form, where he's more defense focused and meant to tank some hits. After you beat him and he reveals his true form, his origin form, his defense and attack are swapped and is now on the offensive. Basically you beat him once while he was helping out Volo. Once was one time too many so the battle became personal to him and he wanted nothing but to drown you in his shadows
My man said "ok wait HOL UO DID YOU JUST FIGHT THE F*CK BACK. F*CK YOU SECOND PHASE MOTHERF*CKER!" I'm very scared for the 3 phase zygaurde fight in legends ZA. I'm calling it. It's gonna be a 3 phase fight
What i like about Legends Arceus is The story that finally feels natural, fresh and unique. (the main series games followed the same scheme of league, bad team and legendaries which was getting boring a bit.) They finally made Arceus feel like an acctual God. The characters have more personality and it feels like our character is acctually more important to the story (we aren't some random kid that saves the world and becomes a champion, we're specificly choosen by the Pokémon God himself)
What I like the most is how I never managed to predict what's going to happen. At first I thought Kamado and Cyllene were gonna be the bad guys, and we basically joined Team Galactic before they became evil. Especially when we were tasked to cleanse Avalugg even tho he didn't do anything and when we were kicked out of the village. At some point I suspected Volo because Cyllene is a good character and Volo is Cynthia's ancestor so he makes for a fitting twist villain and final boss. But then Cogita got introduced who seemed much more like an ancestor of Cynthia and so I discarded my theory and was sure Volo was helping because he was a helpful merchant who had a lot of passion for archeology and wanted to solve Hisuis mystery and his resemblance to Cynthia was just coincidental. Then I thought there was no villain because the credits rolled and there wasn't a single character who showed signs of suddenly becoming a mayor villain. And then out of the blue it turns out Volo was bat-shit crazy all along and helped only because he made a pact with Poké-Satan to get access to the plates and the Azure Flute so he could face and defeat Arceus himself. This game is crazy!
You were never some random kid in the pokemon games (except gen 1 and its subsequent remakes). You're literally a prodigy in those games. And in legend's case, you're the exact trainer in gen4 that arceus chose to go back in time.
So after witnessing Volo’s same thirst for wanting to meet Arceus from the shadows, Giratina finally emerges after you believe you’ve secure your victory. Proceeds to then battle you and when you think you’re done you only enrage him even more to where he powers up to his Origin Form. A 20/10 experience indeed
it's less Giratina takes note of Volo's ambition and more like Volo straight up summoned Giratina to his side. Giratina gave him the final plate, and he gave Giratina power to tear open the space-time rift. the two of them had been working together to get to arceus for the very start. Volo going after arceus to make a new world and discover what it truly was, and Giratina going after arceus to get revenge once and for all
@@vvinterfiower Finally, someone reconigzes them as business partners. Why ppl saying Volo manipulated Giratina tho, they clearly made a deal to get to Arceus.
I don't care what anyone says. This is no super boss, but a penultimate boss, and it deserves to be considered one. The sheer challenge that Giratina and Volo poses deserves to be a prime component of the main story.
bro this is the first time I have ever made a comment on youtube but I gotta tell ya "penultimate" means "second-to-last." - unless I'm overstepping my bounds and you do actually mean penultimate, because it's followed by the Arceus fight?
@@unsee_music Yes. The game is named after Arceus, so he should be the final boss. I said this because I refuse to accept Squidward Dialga as the final boss. But I did hear some people consider Giratina and Volo the real final boss, and I'm not against that either as long as it's not Squidward Dialga.
@@CountShaman Okay. I'm so incredibly sorry for misconstruing your comment and completely unnecessarily correcting your (correct) grammar. I agree with your point :)
@@CountShaman Squidward Dialga I'm done LMAO Also, the Origin forme for Dialga or Palkia is the final boss of the "main story", Volo and Giratina are the true final boss for the main story, and Arceus is the final boss of the game and the superboss of the game. At least, that's how I see it.
I love how when you defeat Giratina's first form and it does the fakeout faint, the heart monitor flatlines before kicking back into gear with a goddamn HEARTBEAT accompanying it. That triggered some primal fight-or-flight response when I first got to that part. Absolutely intense.
ChaoticMeatball did that when he did a Hardcore Nuzlocke using only starter Pokémon. In all, he lost five Pokémon between Volo and Giratina. The lone survivor being an Empoleon.
Giratina’s theme in Pt: Phoning it in. Giratina’s theme in BDSP: mad that it only gets a small bit of post game content. Giratina’s theme in Legends Arceus: Somebody is going to die.
It might be Volo; it might be the player; it might be Big Goat Man™ himself. Either way, someone's gonna learn what the ground 6 feet beneath us tastes like 👀
That flatline leading into the electric guitar at the beginning is so awesome. Giratina has always been my favorite Legendary, and this rendition of its theme makes it that much cooler.
I was moreso amazed with Goodra that the Giratina AI was smart enough to switch from Earth Power to Aura Sphere when I tried to use Shelter But yeah, Goodra actual MVP
[Dragon]+[Steel] is just a broken defensive combo. I mean, they are only weak against [Ground] and [Fight]. Luckily, Goodra, Dialga and "Galar building dragon" don't have the skill {Levitation} or the {Magnet rise} move
Something interesting to note is that Dialga and Palkia's Origin Formes are meant to mimic Arceus' design as a tactic to gain more power, but Giratina hated Arceus so much it ensured its Origin Forme was as drastically physically different as possible out of spite for its creator.
Alright so just to make light of our experience with facing Giratina here... I love how game freak put the text "You finally beat Giratina" almost knowing we were going to lose at least a few times with him Also personally I got lucky with hippowdon taking most of Volo's team, and my walrein taking out Giratina altered form while my empoleon and, luxray and Typhlosion took out his origin form
For the people who beat it first try it’s saying that Giratina doesn’t have a third phase (could you imagine) but for those who struggled it’s like, “About time you beat him!”
I did this battle blind first try, using revives not to survive but to make sure my team gets as much exp as possible. Well, for once i wasnt underleveled as hell(BDSP cynthia at 53 lol). Most mons were around 70, with my typhlosion at 92(gave him every exp candy i got my hands on)
@@mihaimercenarul7467 maybe if you overtune your team as some kind of super counter to Volo. Meanwhile I had no good team that wasn't weak to ground on 66.6% of members. Legit half of the new Pokémon and forms are weak to ground. Arcanine, Overqwil, Typhlosion, and Goodra were my favorites, I couldn't just not use them in the final battle.
@@Xigzagamer Look a lot of people overleveled in this game, it's pretty easy to because of how fun the game is, I never overleveled in the main story both pre and post game because I couldn't be assed to train, I fought Volo with a team of 57 and 67 Dialga. I beat Volo but took some amount of massive beating until I decided "I should train up a bit" (cause I would too stuck up to change teams). You'll see people bragging about first trying some bosses when no one asked, you'll get used to it lol Game's fun doe, still playing now
My favorite thing about Giratina's theme No matter how many years pass No matter how much the music changes in the series No matter what happens in the world We will always have the bubbles.
Yeah, the bubble sound affect and the fading heartbeat monitor to flatline sound affects are iconic parts of Giratina’s theme; really makes you feel like you’re battling the master of the distortion world.
Best battle in pokemon history. Period. The music, the athmosphere, Volo's theme and plot twist, everything was so amazing and challenging.I really hope to see more like this in the upcoming games!
holy shit dude, everything about the 2nd phase transition goes so hard. that iconic heart monitor that was part of ‘tina’s original theme flatlines as the pitch lowers as if to actually signify death, but RIGHT AFTER the big “sike bitch!” stinger, it starts beeping again, and so does the heartbeat kick. and the guitar riff man. it’s almost as if Giratina was just too pissed to lose
Not only did they do Giratina justice for music and its battle, but they also gave Shadow Force its best animation to date. It really embodies how brutal Giratina is by tearing open a rift with its wing claws to attack the opponent.
Cell-Giratina: You.. You actually hit me... Vegeta-Player: *Laughing triumphantly* Cell-Giratina, fainting animation: STOP LAUGHING! Vegeta-Player: *Continues laughing* Cell-Giratina: ... You're a fool. *Eyes flash, and transforms before kicking player's butt to the grindstone*
One thing I really love about Giratina’s theme in PLA is that he has much more modern sounding music, and being the god of the opposite, of anti, this makes way to much sense.
Yo this entire battle sequence RULED. As soon as I was done with Volo I was like "Ok sweet, Plate now pls", then he pulls a Reverse Cyrus and has Giratina fight for him (also a reverse Greevil because he fights with his normal party first, instead of fighting with Giratina first. But anyways). At this point, I have Gligar around, and I'm terribly glad it a) outsped Giratina and b) was bulky enough to live a Shadow Force so I could revive my Togekiss and Alpha Infernape (with Shadow Claw, just in case). Once I beat the Altered form, I was like "Ok phew! Managed to get through the fight and evasion with 2 mons left!". Then Giratina pulls a Super Perfect Cell (or a Cell vs Vegeta post-Final Flash, whatever you want). Eyes flash, and my celebration turns to dread "... ah." Honestly, thank god I levelled Togekiss properly, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to first try clear it
@@bingchilling7900 honestly tho LMAO. I was real lucky I got that Shiny Stone, otherwise I definitely wouldn't have been able to win this on my first try
I never played pokemon arceus, but when I first saw the footage of someone fighting giratina I was like "that's not his primary form... oh." Then surely enough, second phase.
Like, a week before I fought this, I played a fangame called pokemon insurgence, and Girarina was like a final boss, and he turned into a "primal" form which had it have every type, so only weak to rock, I thought maybe after I beat the "true" form of it, it'd do that, but alas, oh and if you haven't seen it, look up "Primal Girarina" it looks SO COOL
I thought it would go origin against volo, not me. Like giratina would get pissed off at volo for trying to demand it kill the player when it wasn't necessary or something along those lines.
Something I really like is how when go to catch Giratina, this theme starts from the middle, as if Giratina is picking up right where he left off from the previous fight
I love that the heart monitor drop happens WHEN giratina is "defeated" Then starts up again once he revives its such a good touch. *Sends straight chills down my spine.*
and in all this (in addition to the fact that Volo and Giratina in both forms spam continuously) the team is not treated and consequently you find yourself facing 8 pokemon in 3 matches in a row.. so yes in my opinion this is the battle most difficult in all pokemon history
This is the only story fight in the series that has taken me more than 5 tries; it took 8. It got frustrating how hard the difficulty spiked out of nowhere and I had to grind for 2 days and redo my team twice before I beat him. It would've been less frustrating if I knew something like this was going to happen (I thought I would have a noble-style fight against giratina) but it was still cool either way
Just a reminder, someday there's going to be kids having nightmares about this battle the same way that some people have nightmares about Cynthia *_And I'm glad_*
Took me roughly 2 hours to get through the volo fight and giratina's first phase, only to find out he has a second stage in his origin form. This game PUNISHES you for pushing through the game, and I learned the hard way.
The fact that they used both the legendary theme and Giratina's theme for this battle is awesome because it's like a reference to Giratina in DP with his altered form and Giratina in Platinum with his origin form too. And the transition between the two rounds of the battle is just perfect thanks to that. Love it
I have not felt this much hype and a sense of actual dread with a difficult pokemon battle since Colosseum and Gale of Darkness. Give us more battles like this.
Took me a solid 5 attempts before i finally had enough of my team alive from Volo’s battle to stand a chance Remember friends, Aux Powers are your friends
I never actually used aux powers in this fight, I’m actually surprised I did it first try, I did use max revives. After beating I was like, “that was the hardest pokemon battle I have ever had”.
I absolutely love how the first flatline happens when Giratina goes down in the first fight, but then it revitalizes to show that it's still alive and gonna kill you
gotta love the new direction they're taking of making legendaries just a bit more of an actual threat , with primal Groudon and Kyogre , Zygarde and his forms , Calyrex , Ultra Necrozma and Eternamax
@@ASquared544 It's a pretty busted mon. And even with lore it's probably the most intelligent being in the universe who isn't Arceus which is pretty crazy.
This battle did my favorite legendary so much justice!! The only minor thing that would've elevated this fight to perfection is if Giratina dragged us to the distortion world and we did the fight there. But that's honestly a nitpick, I'm so happy with what they did here and I hope we get more of it :D
Giratina is my favourite Pokémon… and in previous games he felt really underpowered… but now my boi learned the electric guitar and is the hardest battle in probably all Pokémon time.
Hate to say it, but considering Shadow Girarina in BDSP and THIS in PLA... he's gotta be the hardest Pokémon in the franchise to date. Up there with Ultra Nec.
I'd honestly put him above ultra necrozma. With ultra necrozma you could cheese the fight with zoroark but with this behemoth. There are no exploits or loopholes.
Legends Arceus really said, “Yeah no, he’s actually Satan.” Which I mean that wasn’t ever a contested idea, but it was never confirmed. But in this game they literally give him the same backstory, heavily implying “Yeah he’s literally this world’s Satan.” God I love the lore dumping in this game.
@@43dl3ntil I think that was after the events of Legends Arceus where I think Giratina realised how insane Volo's desire was, to not make the same mistake and redeem himself in front of Arceus he probably stops Cyrus as Cyrus also wants to make the world his way.
The fade and electric guitar intro is just SO hype I love this battle, it took me 5 tries and re-working my teams moves and strats, had to use a lot of revives and I still lost so many times, this was fantastic
“I saw the future and I did not get a platinum remake. You lowly mortals couldn’t do one thing! You had ONE JOB! Now perish into the depths of the Distortion World” -Giratina. Probably
I had more trouble with this battle than with Ultra Necrozma in a Nuzlock run. Well done! And this music freaking slaps.. glad to play though it a few times. 🤣
Well. I knew this was coming. I’ve not even gotten past the 12th main mission, and I was exploring and found Turnback… I KNOWING I would never have a chance, walked in. And it. Was. Empty. So that scared the fuck out of me. I legit went ‘oh god who caught the devil’
In Legend Arceus, Giratina sided with Volo for evil purpose. But after defeated, Giratina decided to protect Hisui (mentioned by Prof Laventon when Volo met him). In present day, Giratina protect Hisui (now known as Sinnoh) from Cyrus' evil plan to harness Palkia's and Dialga's power by merging the real world and distortion world
They give you such a great angle of this when you face him again to catch him after beating Volo. It looks at you not with the terrifying glowing red eyes, but just stares at you, standing still, giving you this look of honor and respect, like it's saying without actually saying it, "prove your mettle, and I'll allow you to capture me; you have earned my respect".
I remember in a UA-cam vid of the original version of this OST from DPP, someone pointed out that at 0:59 it sounded like a someone flatlining and ever since, that part it never failed to give me chills each time I heard it. Giratina's theme is one of the best, if not the best OST ever for a legendary Pokemon.
The true antagonist of Legends. Fed into Volo's obsession with Arceus, caused the rift which frenzied many Pokémon including its siblings, and made reality unstable as a result of everything.
Scariest part is Giratina isn't even trying to do that. It's just SUPER fixated on its job and has MAJOR anger issues so when someone, even god, tries to stop it from doing it, or someone tries to mess up the balance of the worlds, it gets too mad to think straight. Renegade indeed.
@@annaalexandra8715 It's both. As much as people don't want to admit it, this game basically solidifies it the Pokémon's world's equivalent devil. Banished for rebelling against its creator, tempting people to its bidding like Volo, has a serpentine body in origin forme, and even has 6 wings (wing spikes in altered)/6 ribs/6 legs (or spikes in origin). It was even willing to tear down reality if it meant challenging Arceus. It just doesn't have the overtly malevolent personality that most theists attribute to their interpretation of the devil. As you said, it ascribes to its own morals; it's simply an ill-tempered and rebellious child of Arceus.
![The Psychology behind Volo and Giratina, Pokémon's coolest Final Boss [Game Designer Explains]](/img/n.gif)
>Giratina is obscured
>Your attack missed
Man made horrors beyond my comprehension
I just finished this fight... And oh my Arceus it annoyed the distortion world out of me so bad
literally how I lost the fight the first time around.
@@ogmechsftw Same. I legit had 3 pokemon that had all its attacks miss Giratina bc it was obscured.
>you only have one Pokémon left from the Volo fight
>*STRONG STYLE*
Yeah so this happened 3 times.
Yeah, that happened to me, thank God Dragon Pulse can't miss in this game so Goodra managed to kill Giratina for me.
Something interesting to note:
-In Legends Arceus, Giratina basically teams up with Volo to stop you and ultimately meet Arceus, both have the desire to do so with Volo wanting to remake the world and Giratina wanting to take revenge for being outcast. After the (INSANE) battle, Giratina flees.
-200 years later, in Platinum, Cyrus is up there, the same exact location where you fought Volo, he has both Dialga and Palkia under control, about to remakee the world, but Giratina comes back. This time Giratina learned that Volo was out of his mind, and that now the same goes for Cyrus. This time Giratina won't flee, taking Cyrus into the Distorsion World to save not just Sinnoh but the entire universe.
Giratina got a 2 centuries long redemption arc.
Holy shit you're right
this is why giratina isn't a dark type
Holy crap. Giratina just skyrocketed to one of my favorite legendaries.
I also like how when you talk to Giratina, it says something like “Giratina is just staring at you”. With context now, that’s probably because Giratina acknowledges you as you used to own it, but of course you wouldn’t remember, and is probably another reason why he took Cyrus likely to protect your character. If that is the case then our character probably either did go back to the future at some point, or a past and future Lucas/Dawn exist
@Naeshaun Edwards I may be remembering wrong, but isnt it implied that your character in Legends Arceus is the Professor's Assistant from Platinum? It might just be a fan theory though, so don't quote me on that.
The victory fake out and then origin form transformation is the definition of “Call an ambulance… BUT NOT FOR ME!!!”
It could also be: "When the final boss has a 2nd phase"
"SMELLS LIKE B*TCH IN HERE, ALL Y'ALL SMELL LIKE B*TCH TO ME!"
@@royal_kim1154 Yeah but this boss had 8 fucking phases
Giratina and Volo be like ca.l an ambulance but not for us it's for you because you're gonna die now
@@Lucien268 they're counting each of Volo's 6 as distinct phases. Realistically it's a 3-phase boss
*Finally Defeats giratina*
Giratina: Call the ambulance
*changes into origin form*
But not for me
This fight was super hard I think I won't sleep tonight but I won because I stop to get darkrai
And indeed the ambulance took me away 😭
Bruh I thought my Arcanine that I was leveling up would get free exp from killing it with Play Rough but it Uno reversed me with it’s origin forme
*YOUR LIFE INSURANCE HAS EXPIRED*
@@Sonichero151 *YOUR RIGHT TO LIVE HAS BEEN REVOKED*
Giratina was set on destroying Hisui with Volo, but once defeated, understanding it was no match for the player, decided to go on as Hisui's protector, which is why in the future when Cyrus makes an attempt of repeating Volo's plan, Giratina flys into a rage
I like to think that if Volo had brought all the Plates together and Arceus hadn't appeared despite that, Giratina would have gotten pretty pissed off and killed the guy.
Getting at Arceus is Giratina's first priority. If that's not a possibility, he's gonna try to keep his future pawns alive.
@@Nova-_- my theory is that giratina and Volo actually succeeded and Managed to reach close to arceus and that’s why we were yoinked from the future because no one in history at tht time could rival Volos skill in battles. This is backed up by something Volo says during his betrayal, “it’s almost as if u were sent here to stop me”
That means Dawn/Lucas stopped the end of the world two times, one in the past and then later in the future.
Dawn/Lucas are definitely the strongest protagonists in the pokemon universe, befriended time, space, satan and god himself.
@@ClericDoggo56 😂
@@Nova-_- I used Giratina when I fought Arceus, so I granted their wish.
You fight three times in a row.
You fight Volo, who’s team is basically Cynthia’s.
You fight Giratina
Then you fight Giratina again.
And you can’t heal between battles.
This is the closest we have gotten to an actual boss rush.
Next up someone mods all the Team Rainbow Rocket leaders to be like the battle tree but no pause or heals, causing a 7*6 = 42 pokemon boss rush
@@ValunarTonix in modding cases, that would be pretty hard. But not officially.
@@ayo2412 I’ve got mine in the 80’s! I can’t beat them!
Imagine once you defeated Cynthia's team, she pulls out Giratina, then you beat Giratina, and it becomes even stronger.
Pokemon colosseum had a similar rush of 5 battles and only a heal for the 5th
I like how Laventon’s explanation of why Giratina let you catch it can be summarized as “I don’t want to be the bad guy anymore.”
It shows his character development in Platinum was basically started here given that he stops Cyrus from doing basically the same shit he and Volo tried to do in this game. It's also my new personal Headcanon that the reason Giratina studies you quietly before you fight him in Platinum is because Akari/Rei look exactly like Dawn/Lucas so he's getting some flashbacks to when he got set on a Better Path.
@@dravensanders6157 Legends has a fair amount of story lore in the game (regarding the Creation Trio) that D/P/Pt make references to it despite that they came out long before Legends did.
In the originals (Diamond/Pearl), before you fight your game's mascot Legendary, Prof. Rowan and Lucas/Dawn tell your character that Dialga/Palkia apparently trust you enough that you can end their suffering after they were forcibly summoned against their wills by Cyrus. This is a call'forward' to Legends where you prevent the 'Almight Sinnoh' that the Clan Leader you picked from succumbing to their frenzied state and they bond with you enough to where they want you to use them against their fully frenzied counterpart. In Diamond/Pearl, your uncanny resemblance to the Protagonist from the past reminds them that you perhaps share that same potential to prevent the same disaster that one befell on Ancient Hisui/Sinnoh.
In Platinum, Giratina's revenge against Cyrus is also a call'forward' to Legend as it distinctly remembers nearly wiping out and resetting reality alongside Volo which was a mistake for it and it seeks to not let it ever happen again. It was humbled upon losing to Legend's Protagonist, according to Volo as your Professor tells you. This is seen when Giratina briefly observes your character in Platinum before fighting you, it senses a very similar presence even if you're not the same person. You remind it of when it was humbled and began to mellow down from seeking revenge against Arceus.
He just wants to be happy
What does he say
@@officersoulknight6321 Well, after he was manipulated by Volo to create the rift, and then defeated by Rei/Akari at what is now Spear Pillar, Giratina fled to Turnback Cave. In a sidequest you get after defeating Volo, you can go to Turnback Cave to refight and catch Giratina. When you talk to Laventon after doing so, the professor will then explain how the events at Spear Pillar disillusioned and humbled the Pokémon to the point where he abandoned his grudge against Arceus for its exile, and chose to become Sinnoh’s protector, hence his role in Platinum.
A thought occurs to me.
I wondered why Giratina had a different looking Origin Forme compared to Dialga and Palkia's. You'd think it was just cause Dialga and Palkia got theirs a good decade and then some after Giratina did, but lore wise, I realized there is a reason why.
Palkia's Pokedex entry by Laventon states their Origin Forme was a result of them, and by extension Dialga, were attempting to assume the form of their creator and parent Arceus to channel more power with their shape as The Original One. This implies that Dialga and Palkia place and hold a strong sense of duty and respect towards their parent for who and what they are.
Giratina doesn't do this, taking on his own shape. Why? Volo told us why.
Giratina hates his own parent for being bound to the Distortion World for his violence.
His classification as the Renegade makes more sense. He is rebelling in more ways than one, a willing traitor to his father physically, and his principles as The Original One.
Me a emo kid:
Wow he's literally me
"It's not a phase Arceus, it's a forme!"
*slams distortion portal shut*
Their.
Giratina is what happens when a deity becomes emo
hes just like me fr
"Giratina! Strike him down!" When I saw that scene I was so hype. This game did Giratina RIGHT
AND DONT FORGET THAT SHADOW FORCE ANIMATION. INSANE
@@asjrr4899 chef's kiss
I swear, I beat Volo on my second try without much trouble, and just as I was considering how it wasn’t really all that for a final battle, the game suddenly went full cinematic on me. And the freakin fear I felt as Giratina appeared, holy crap. That is probably the most excited I’ve been in a Pokémon game for ages now.
It’s Giratina’s revenge for not having a Platinum remake
I can almost hear it in an Akechi voice. :)
The little fake out where Giratina leaned back, and then it’s eyes glowed red before it changed forms made me actually freak out, such an amazing moment, if not one that was absolutely bs because I had 1 Pokémon left and he instantly outsped doubled me lmao
The music drop is perfectly timed alongside it
I legit had a rough battle here, after volo i had 2 mons and at this point i was around 68-70 in terms of levels myself, it was a mission and a half of me strategising what to do and barely managing to win till the lean back and i legit was like; "oh fuck he aint done yet is he?" Boy did i go into a hard part 2, but god dam did the music shift into his origin form fkin make me lose my mind for 2 reasons, 1) it was fkin dope and 2) i wasnt done yet
It really feels like that one scene from spongebob when sandy beats up the worms tongue only to realize the real deal is a lot bigger...
This was my train of thought
"Ok ...were fini-NOPE NOPE NOOOPE WTD HE BASICALLY HAS 8 POKEMON WTH OH NO"
I had two Pokémon left but since one was cresselia I just heal stalled until a kiss and then struck back with moonblast
“Giratina unleashed its true strength”
And just like that, what felt like victory immediately turned to dread.
For poor giratina.
I don't get why the legendary pokemon are in all the games except gen 1 and 2 are so easy to put down. FFS, they're the most powerful beings in that region/world. I remember trying to fight Mewtwo in gen 1. That was a terrible idea. I don't mean the GBA remakes. I mean the OG Gen 1. Even the bird trio give you a solid ass beating. Gen 2, the dogs were obnoxious.
@@Ujiyo I know right?! That's what pissed me off so easily about Pokemon, it was the way they treated the most powerful ones. For fucks sake you could put down Mewtwo with a house rat in present games. I am SO happy with the treatment they've done creation squad, I hope they treat other legendaries in other games the same way as these 4.
Edit: typo
@@Ujiyo
To be fair, back then you also didn't have as many good pokemon
I made it through Giratina 1 with revive spamming, I was so mad when that line came up
the fact giratina just says "sike, I was holding back" and then an ELECTRIC GUITAR kicks in makes this probably one of the most memorable moments in this game
Such a good sounding guitar too
it's literally a rock remix of giratina's original theme in a game where music is mostly the traditional Japanese style. Bro's literally splitting open the fabrics of reality while battling you
Someone please make an animation of Volo absolutely shredding the electric guitar
"Why do I hear boss music"? No.
"Why do I hear *Final Boss Music*."
After taking fatal damage:
Giratina: Welp. That was a nice warm up.
I know there’s been a few Legendaries like Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza and Mewtwo that have had character development in the series but I legit think Giratina is the most improved out of all of them, PLA has shown he began with rage after feeling neglected when Arceus created him desiring to fight his creator but after the events with Volo (if you don’t count the player catching him) he calms his spirit and returns to the distortion world waiting as a protector until the events of Platinum where he actively try’s to stop Cyrus as he sees the same person he saw in Volo and succeeded in protecting the world.
That…right there is genius build up for a fan favourite Legendary and I’m all for it!
Even if giratina is catched it is said in the lore that legendaries can snap out of the pokeballs whenever they want too so even if you catch giratina this is still accurate
Wait you can catch it? I was so completely in “oh shit oh shit survive survive survive” mode I didn’t even consider it lol
@@krlw890 it's something you can do after beating giratina in the bossfight you have to go to a cave in the beach area
@@krlw890
Well not in the actual battle, you get the mission to go after it after the battle but to be fair most were like that so I feel you man
@@tobiasa8946 even regular Pokémon could break out of their balls if they wanted too
I think they are getting tired of their games being called easy lmao. This was such a fun battle. I had to make a whole new team from scratch, and I'm glad most of his pokemon share weaknesses, since this battle is basically a 6v8. I just can't explain the feeling of hype when I was left with my froslass, both giratina and her one hit away from losing, and knowing I just had to hit an ice beam against the evasion boosted giratina
Facts, for a long time in Pokemon games I had to actually strategise and try to prevent giratina from wiping my team (again)
@Carlo Carugati I'd argue against that. Most of the Noble Pokémon were difficult overall (Arcanine was the toughest of them imo; the attack patterns were really strange), and Alpha Pokémon can really give your team a good licking too, if you decide to go for those. And don't get me started on Space-Time distortions; so many 1v3 fights where the mons are similarly leveled to you can be brutal to your healing supply if you don't have good immunities across your team
I remember people complaining about how totems and ultra necrozma was bs but now everyone swears they were the easiest thing ever
This is a battle i needed and like !! I love it
Me getting beaten for the 7th time :
“ Looking at my Exp “ all according to plan
Gotta love Volo, the only character in Pokemon that makes a deal with the devil just to meet god.
I Want Giratina To Fight Lucemon!DEATH BATTLE!THE WINNER IS LUCEMON!ANCIENT ATTACK:DIVINE ATONEMENT!
The irony is funny
honestly, if the game didn't MAKE you fight him, i'd let him
@@chimuoma390 what kinda crack are you smoking?
That quote goes hard
In my opinion, Giratina's theme is heavily dependent on how they handle the flatline. Adding a heartbeat was perfect.
That heartbeat was my heartbeat when he transformed into his origin form, holy shit
Starting with the flatline was a touch of brilliance, as he promptly decided to end what was left of my team in a matter of moments
@@mymadnessworld9342 im sorry sir but im pretty sure thats the distortion form
No offense tho-
Origin form giratina would be cool
@@StardustZee oh whoops I got them mixed up
@@StardustZee nah mf I just looked it up, the worm version of giratina is called the Origin form
Never have I gone from a feeling of high hope to a feeling of utter despair so quickly as when Giritina reverted to Origin form and regained all its health back
Ikr
My face literally went from 😆 to 😐 so quick
Except when he appeared after a basically cynthia battle lmao
Same here
EXACTLY
The fake out, the electric riff, the ORCHESTRAL HITS, THE TRANSITION, THE FLATLINE, OH MY GOD THIS WAS SCARY BUT EPIC
The flatline represents your entire team after the first two battles
*FUCKING DEAD*
ah yes, the worst Pokémon game i existance, isn't it?
@@jeniffer7799 either this is making fun of the haters, or you’re dead serious
@@jeniffer7799 is this a joke or? Cause legends arceus is getting some of the most praise like ever
you have summarized my emotions so adequately. i keep replaying the electric guitar to orchestral hits part when the eyes flash red and i get CHILLS EVERYTIME this is truly a masterpiece
Giratina toughed it out so Volo wouldn't feel sad
Lmao
Giratina toughed it out so you would feel sad
BUT I DO AND IM GOING F-ING INSANE HERE
OH GOD NO!
Lmfao best comment by far
I think the big thing that makes this track stand out is that it is FAR less reliant on the old-fashioned sound of all the other music in the game. It openly and proudly uses electric guitar, bass, electronic sounds... It's just amazing because it makes a distinction that this battle, this legendary, is DIFFERENT. You WILL take this fight seriously, or you will be spanked hard.
It might also have to do with the fact that Giratina pretty muchs hates the world and everything in in so instead of the song following the normal music choices its more sparattic and chaotic (But those also just fitting more with Giratina in general)
this definitely applies to arceus' too!! timpani's are pretty much the only normal instrument used there, the rest is eldritch whitenoise lmao
This seems to be a running theme that affects the battle with origin palkia/dialga too, as the theme that plays then is almost outright eurobeat
I feel like this fight was thrown in just for fans who thought the game was easy
Girintina be like: bend over and get fucked!
Giratina in one sentence:
“You are bad guy, but this does not mean you are bad guy.”
I've never seen anything more accurate
This statement is very true
I mean he wouldve killed you if you didnt have pokemon so maybe not the nicest bad guy
"Even if you did bad things doesn't mean you are a bad person"
-Omori
@@MariOmor1 Ah, an OMORI quote. Good game, shit community.
As someone who grew up with Pokémon Platinum, this game makes me VERY happy.
I bet! This goes really hard.
I started with Diamond & this is legit one of my favorite Switch games.
They made have given us the crappy remakes, but they did Giratina justice in this game!
Agreed, Pokemon Arceus is the TRUE spiritual successor to Pokemon Platinum. Those Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl games need to be sent to the shadow realm were they belong
Gamefreak:
I take away your distortion world in BDSP, then I give you your best remix to date and a badass boss fight, deal ?
Never, in my entire life as a pokemon fan, have ever seen a main series battle go through phases. LET ALONE 3. Giritina was given so much justice in this game, I'm glad they got a fair shake at being the big bad guy.
It's happened a couple times before. Ghetsis in B2W2 pulls this trick with Kyurem, though it wasn't quite as dramatic as this!
@@canon3723 Greevil and Ghetsis pull similar trick, but in both cases the legendary comes first and you are healed, so it doesn't matter in the end.
@@Dukstless you don't get healed after Shadow Lugia, but you do get healed after Black/White Kyurem
Yeah Greevil was a pain to deal with the first time, especially since the leveling system in XD is so slow
Actually, the battle with Eternatus is 3 phases: normal, Max pressure, then with the dogs.
I find it interesting that giratinas statue is alone, but higher and closer up to the spear pillar in comparison to dialga and palkia. Someone also slashed giratina right down the middle too. Giratina being able to hold its own origin forme without the help of Arceus shows how powerful it is. Dialga and palkia had to basically mimic Arceus to get a fraction of what giratina naturally has. I wonder in the past was giratina revered so highly. Wonder what happened.
I think it's a clear callback to Giratina being based on Satan. In Christian theology, Satan was once Lucifer, the most beautiful and powerful of all of the archangels, second to God only. But he let it get to his head; and so Lucifer plotted against God, and failed. It's likely the Pokemon team is trying to evoke a similar idea here.
Maybe by creating their own forms is supposed to grant them more power and Giratina is the only one of the three that figured that out
@@swagathan5 But, due to being defeated, Giratina was humbled. Hence why it's a pseudo good natured pokemon in platinum, and why it wants to stop Cyrus
Actually they are equal in powers.
What happened was that volo helped giratina boost by having it use its origin form in the real world.
And while in return he was supposed to see arceus himself. But what giratina did was just open a distortion in time and space with its boosted origin form and arceus made the player go through the gap and the rest is history.
And apparently it made the time and space gods mad and they started wrecking stuff.
And yeah Volo had the gracious core boosting giratina. And they were apparently close to complete the plan (I don't know how) which made giratina stronger (you know, the terrible might thing).
But when giratina was defeated, he was lone abandoned again and was captured by the player easily.
So in a way giratina with a help from volo was supposedly stronger than palkia, and dialga but now they are called equals again in their respective dimensions.
@@swagathan5 And giratina's origin form was based on the snake that made Eve eat the apple of knowledge.
So in a way Arceus who was having 1 billion arms, stripped giratina of his limbs and banished it. And so giratina was only able to use it's power in the distortion world.
The electric guitar made Giratina's theme that much more epic
Hello again :)
Edit: Yeah, I agree, the electric guitar was awesome
I agree
Bonjour
Yes
Hello commentar man.
They finally gave Giratina the treatment it deserved.
And they made it's theme even better and it's now my favorite Pokemon Battle theme
I’d argue that the Gen 2 Champion/Red theme is better but this theme still slaps
this is seriously up there for me with the Unova Elite 4 theme
Origin palkia and dialga would like to like to disagree.
@@pratikgaikwad7472 It's a good one too. I didn't say this is better, it's just my favorite.
@@cooingwolf6775 ok
Giratina in battle: "pls no dark pulse"
Giratina in the lore:
Giratina is Metal in the Lore lol
I think you meant
Giratina in battle: *Obscured*
I literally just fought this boss.
The double freakout is insane. This post game is Pokemon Mystery Dungeon levels of quality. Freaking incredible.
yeah, while I would routinely grind for Reviver Seeds in those games, this was the ONLY Pokemon battle that I've had to grind in order to overcome!
@@deinonychus1948 Fuck this game !
Giratina literally has every move to counter my team
Earth power for my Infernape
Shadow Force destroy Gardevoir and my team neutral
Aura Sphere to hit Sammort and Hounhcrow
Dragon Claw to hit Garchomp
And Roserade walls all four but does nothing to Giratina
Edit : Laugh) It seems that people still can’t get over me been salty about endgame , does making people cry about such thing actually show how great the difficulty it has ?
@@陳嘉宇-y4q well thats a hard boss if he had no good type coverage his team wouldnt be so good
@@陳嘉宇-y4q Then switch out some Pokémon so your team does better?
@@陳嘉宇-y4q aura sphere isn't even super affective against honchkrow what are you talking about.
They… they did it. They actually added a heart beat that abruptly stops at the flatline section and make beeping sound closer to the irl machine
I love how it looks like Giratina is gonna go into a normal KO animation but then it just like, stops, rears its head with flashing eyes and shadows pouring out, and transforms, as the music goes from “normal Sinnoh legendary” to this. In a game that cuts to black way too often for cutscene purposes, I’m so happy this battle didn’t do that, and they did one of the coolest phase transition cutscenes the series has perhaps ever attempted. Like I say, mid battle, no cut to a cutscene or cut to black, they just fake you out and transition right then! Feels so much more intimidating from a gameplay perspective for the battle to just simply not end when you’re expecting it to.
When I heard that transition into that electric guitar I had the largest smile on my face. Absolutely did justice to my favourite pokemon!
And here I thought giratina can't get even more boring. The most overrated pokemon
@@mihaimercenarul7467 I mean its ur opinion if u think its overrated, but I'd hardly call it the no.1 most overrated
@@kag2576 don't bother, this guy is going around in comments hating this entire fight and calling the music bad.
@@mihaimercenarul7467 yeah ok keep talking. Giratina might just rip through your reality and knock down your door 😬
@@laxmidhardash7186 He must be either insanely bored or really unhappy to be so persistent
0:12 Has to be the sickest musical transition in Pokemon! I was so angry when I first heard it because I KNEW what was coming and had only one Pokemon left in my party lol
Same lol i was like "Are you serious right now....?"
best thème
It was so fucking wild
It was at that moment that we all knew we were f*cked
I was struggling to get past its first form and I was like "Yes baby I'm a winner" and then I saw its weird animation... and the glowy eyes... and it was the end.
This game was so much better than a remake. Sinnoh fans asked for a muffin and instead got a whole ass cake.
I don't know, PLA was amazing but I'm still salty about the hot pile of garbage that was BDSP. PLA is more of a stand-alone game, Sinnoh still deserved a proper remake imo
Pla isn't a remake. Bdsp was, but it was literal garbage
PLA is the sinnoh remake in my heart
Nah they got the Muffin AND the Cake
@@trvezifer8837No, it really didn't. No game past GSC needed one.
Seriously the transition from the legendary Pokemon theme to Giratina theme is so damn good. I really like this fight tbh. I hope they follow the good parts from this game and make another Pokemon legends type game with even better graphics and designs.
Also little missed details on Giratina chaining it to the Luciferian Similiarity: 6 Legs, 6 Neck Spikes, 6 Wing Spikes; 666.
@@lonəcadvrs I never picked up on that, thank you :)
>better graphics
If they outsource the next mainline game sure, but I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon
@@theabsolutetrashman3708 this is a mainline game tho, so this might be the new norm and im hyped for it, i just hope they outsource the graphics rather then whole games this time
I really hope Game Freak outsources to Monolith for the graphics and optimization for future games. That way Game Freak can focus on game design and Pokemon models.
That shadow force animation is so cool looking, watching him tear through dimensions
Now we know what those red claws are for...
they aren't just for ripping you apart, they can literally tear space-time asunder!
@@deinonychus1948 it's the anti-matter pokemon, he should be able to break reality given his abilities
@@luisfillipebeserra2108 More like the gravity pokemon, but it is still a god, it should be able to do crazy things like breaking space and time lol
@@omegazer0800 not this gravity thing again
This is juxtaposed with origin form dials and palkia having their main moves nerfed by their new forms
"What an anticlimactic end to giratina"
Famous last words.
Giratina unleashed its true strength!
Bro pulles an uno reverse card
Fr
Those word are his last ones
Giratina still holds its crown as having the most epic legendary theme, the guitar used in this version is just amazing.
Now Origin Dialga/Palkia theme also is the same level with this theme
@@ranorunadaira1452 ew no
@@daigustoemeral3710 what?
I agree with rananoru
Origin palkia and dialga theme is real good not s tier material but good
I was thinking "What would make a legendary Pokémon fight actually difficult without making it way overleveled or giving it omni-boosts like Ultra Necrozma"?
Turns out the solution is actually simple: Let it Battle you immediately after most of your team just got wiped out without giving you a chance of recovering and with 2 lives so you cannot end the fight in one-shot without it having a chance to retaliate.
That’s pretty much cheating 😂😭
But I thought they did give it an omni-boost. "Filled with terrible might".
They did give it an omni boost, although to be fair I'm pretty sure it's not as big as Ultra Necrozma.
Putting it after an already powerful team and having multiple phases, however, greatly reduces your options to cheese it, a big problem Ultra Necrozma faced with, in a game where its already harder to cheese bosses.
@@Missingno_Miner Admittedly Perish Song puts a timer on every single totem fight, regardless of level/omniboosts
@@OnceandFutureSoph Yep, and in the case of Ultra Necrozma, that's not the only option. It can also be killed using Toxic due to its lack of recovery moves, and the AI is incapable of processing the existence of Zorua and Zoroark.
For those who don’t know, here’s what happened with Giratina:
It was worshipped alongside Palkia and Dialga as lesser deities with Arceus as the supreme god. It’s clear they held Giratina as stronger than the other two as his statue is higher on the mountain. However, Giratina rebels and his statue is destroyed by disillusioned worshippers. Giratina is then banished once it is subdued. Volo is the “life isn’t fair because I don’t get what I want” kind of guy so he tries to free Giratina. This is why Arceus sends us back, to stop them. The distortion also causes one of the other two to go feral.
Theory:
They were all going to betray Arceus at some point. However, palkia and dialga were equal opposites. They gained power trying to copy their master and fought each other for control but remained at an impasse. So all Giratina has to worry about is the big guy himself. But he underestimated the power gap. Arceus creates, Giratina can only alter or corrupt. Arceus won, and the other two fell in line.
Rad theory
I remember reading in bulbapedia, when giratina has absorbed enough powers, it could retain its origin forme in the real world. It would be powerful enough to rival even the Original One
Holy distortion world...
I like that Dialga and Palkia were basically like "Well if we can't beat each other then how are we supposed to beat him?"
@@brillywinsen6526 So its the devil
@@yaboi-rowlet basically
I fought Giratina for the first time yesterday, said a genuine WTF when the second phase happened, and then my final pokemon fainted right as the flatline happened, 10/10 game.
I love to think gamefreak knew you would be on your last mon or two so they made the flatline happen just as giratina KO’s it
@bruhmoment7931 perfect revenge for the death threats they got over sword and shield
The moment Giritina got back up is the moment I realized what I was in for. Thank you Drifblim for tanking all of Roserades attacks allowing me to heal up my party in preparation.
thank you to my team for tanking all of volos team and allowing my togekiss to solo giritina and tg togekiss for tanking all thoose shadow attacks
Thank you for all of those side quests I did before hand which made me slightly over leveled and allowed me to gain an edge
All my thanks goes to my alpha goodra who tanked all of giratina's hits, lived on 5 hp, and killed him with 4 pp left on dragon pulse.
The moment Giratina got back up is the moment I realized what I was in for. Thank you Sylveon for taking all of the hits from Giratina, allowing me to revive Shaymin and finally beat this beast of a Pokémon.
Edit: If you don't know, I got to Phase 2 of Giratina's fight, and I still have 3 Pokémon still alive. That being Samurott, Sylveon, and Shaymin.
In that same battle, I decided to use Status moves on Giratina so it's easier to deal with, then I let Sylveon to be defeated by Giratina so that Shaymin can defeat Giratina.
Edit again: I know, I know, it's unfair to use Mythical Pokemon, but I'm not embarrassed to say that I beat Volo and Giratina first try. It took me a long time since I did this.
Thank you Walrein and Samurot for beating the dog crap out of Giratina and Volo 🥰
Also a slight reminder for those unaware, during the Volo fight, Giratina is in his altered form, where he's more defense focused and meant to tank some hits. After you beat him and he reveals his true form, his origin form, his defense and attack are swapped and is now on the offensive. Basically you beat him once while he was helping out Volo. Once was one time too many so the battle became personal to him and he wanted nothing but to drown you in his shadows
Now THAT'S fucking cool
My man said "ok wait HOL UO DID YOU JUST FIGHT THE F*CK BACK. F*CK YOU SECOND PHASE MOTHERF*CKER!"
I'm very scared for the 3 phase zygaurde fight in legends ZA. I'm calling it. It's gonna be a 3 phase fight
The music may be a bit terrifying, but the way Giratina spins around in a circle is kinda adorable
I also love how its mouth plates open up when it roars!
@@Jas0n2571
Fun fact, apparently Origin Dialga's mouth plate can also open up when firing its Roar of Time signature move.
@@Jas0n2571 it always did
@@praimi13 doesn't matter, they can still say they love it
I love how Giratina comes closer to the Spiritomb and starts to spin as if to try to outspin the spinning spiritomb to assert dominance XD
What i like about Legends Arceus is
The story that finally feels natural, fresh and unique.
(the main series games followed the same scheme of league, bad team and legendaries which was getting boring a bit.)
They finally made Arceus feel like an acctual God.
The characters have more personality and it feels like our character is acctually more important to the story
(we aren't some random kid that saves the world and becomes a champion, we're specificly choosen by the Pokémon God himself)
We're essentially poke Jesus.
@@doot7730 exactly what i thought when the game launched lol
@@doot7730 or a chosen human persay
What I like the most is how I never managed to predict what's going to happen. At first I thought Kamado and Cyllene were gonna be the bad guys, and we basically joined Team Galactic before they became evil. Especially when we were tasked to cleanse Avalugg even tho he didn't do anything and when we were kicked out of the village.
At some point I suspected Volo because Cyllene is a good character and Volo is Cynthia's ancestor so he makes for a fitting twist villain and final boss. But then Cogita got introduced who seemed much more like an ancestor of Cynthia and so I discarded my theory and was sure Volo was helping because he was a helpful merchant who had a lot of passion for archeology and wanted to solve Hisuis mystery and his resemblance to Cynthia was just coincidental.
Then I thought there was no villain because the credits rolled and there wasn't a single character who showed signs of suddenly becoming a mayor villain.
And then out of the blue it turns out Volo was bat-shit crazy all along and helped only because he made a pact with Poké-Satan to get access to the plates and the Azure Flute so he could face and defeat Arceus himself. This game is crazy!
You were never some random kid in the pokemon games (except gen 1 and its subsequent remakes). You're literally a prodigy in those games. And in legend's case, you're the exact trainer in gen4 that arceus chose to go back in time.
This is easily the most fun I've had in a Pokémon game since I beat N over 10 years ago. You've really outdone yourselves, Game Freak.
So after witnessing Volo’s same thirst for wanting to meet Arceus from the shadows, Giratina finally emerges after you believe you’ve secure your victory. Proceeds to then battle you and when you think you’re done you only enrage him even more to where he powers up to his Origin Form. A 20/10 experience indeed
it's less Giratina takes note of Volo's ambition and more like Volo straight up summoned Giratina to his side. Giratina gave him the final plate, and he gave Giratina power to tear open the space-time rift. the two of them had been working together to get to arceus for the very start. Volo going after arceus to make a new world and discover what it truly was, and Giratina going after arceus to get revenge once and for all
The bloodline of Cynthia will never stop traumatizing us.....
@@Sonichero151
Cynthia transcends space and time just to make you have a heart attack
@@vvinterfiower Finally, someone reconigzes them as business partners. Why ppl saying Volo manipulated Giratina tho, they clearly made a deal to get to Arceus.
I do hope they had expanded Volo past story more to explain why he thought the world is unfair and wanted to remake the world in the first place
I don't care what anyone says. This is no super boss, but a penultimate boss, and it deserves to be considered one. The sheer challenge that Giratina and Volo poses deserves to be a prime component of the main story.
bro this is the first time I have ever made a comment on youtube but I gotta tell ya "penultimate" means "second-to-last." - unless I'm overstepping my bounds and you do actually mean penultimate, because it's followed by the Arceus fight?
@@unsee_music Yes. The game is named after Arceus, so he should be the final boss.
I said this because I refuse to accept Squidward Dialga as the final boss. But I did hear some people consider Giratina and Volo the real final boss, and I'm not against that either as long as it's not Squidward Dialga.
@@CountShaman Okay. I'm so incredibly sorry for misconstruing your comment and completely unnecessarily correcting your (correct) grammar. I agree with your point :)
@@CountShaman Squidward Dialga I'm done LMAO
Also, the Origin forme for Dialga or Palkia is the final boss of the "main story", Volo and Giratina are the true final boss for the main story, and Arceus is the final boss of the game and the superboss of the game. At least, that's how I see it.
He is the superboss Arceus is the Super Duper boss. Aka that final superboss you fight after doing everything postgame
Me, playing completely blind: “I wonder when I get to fight his origin form?”
**The eyes flash red**
“Guess it’s right the fuck now!”
I love how when you defeat Giratina's first form and it does the fakeout faint, the heart monitor flatlines before kicking back into gear with a goddamn HEARTBEAT accompanying it.
That triggered some primal fight-or-flight response when I first got to that part. Absolutely intense.
To anyone who wishes to continue your nuzlocke into this fight... Arceus have mercy on your soul.
ChaoticMeatball did that when he did a Hardcore Nuzlocke using only starter Pokémon. In all, he lost five Pokémon between Volo and Giratina. The lone survivor being an Empoleon.
@@heinzdoofenshmirtz8643 i am not TOO shocked Empoleon made it, Steel/Water is pretty nice for tanking hits in general.
Try Nuzlocking this game when the AI is so smart they predict your change outs and not very effective moves one shot when it comes from the enemy
@@TheAuron32 plus it learns ice beam to combat any dragon types. God I love empoleon.
@@cakeeyplayz *Palkia wants to know your location*
Giratina’s theme in Pt: Phoning it in.
Giratina’s theme in BDSP: mad that it only gets a small bit of post game content.
Giratina’s theme in Legends Arceus: Somebody is going to die.
It might be Volo; it might be the player; it might be Big Goat Man™ himself. Either way, someone's gonna learn what the ground 6 feet beneath us tastes like 👀
Giratina: someone is about to die...
*And it ain't gon' be me*
@@blackwingtfdand someone is about to learn what it feels like to be drowned in the screaming darkness of the lord of the losts near mindless rage
"YOU COME INTO MY HOME UNINVITED, AND TELL ME HOW TO ARRANGE MY FURNITURE??? WHAT A FOOL YOU ARE!!! *SKELETON DIVINE DEATH BLAST!!!!* "
That flatline leading into the electric guitar at the beginning is so awesome. Giratina has always been my favorite Legendary, and this rendition of its theme makes it that much cooler.
Giratina is such a boring pokemon
This fight made me appreciate goodra's new form even more
I was moreso amazed with Goodra that the Giratina AI was smart enough to switch from Earth Power to Aura Sphere when I tried to use Shelter
But yeah, Goodra actual MVP
X2
[Dragon]+[Steel] is just a broken defensive combo. I mean, they are only weak against [Ground] and [Fight]. Luckily, Goodra, Dialga and "Galar building dragon" don't have the skill {Levitation} or the {Magnet rise} move
@@perr0263 Dialga does get Magnet rise
@@dogla2108 :0
Something interesting to note is that Dialga and Palkia's Origin Formes are meant to mimic Arceus' design as a tactic to gain more power, but Giratina hated Arceus so much it ensured its Origin Forme was as drastically physically different as possible out of spite for its creator.
Alright so just to make light of our experience with facing Giratina here...
I love how game freak put the text "You finally beat Giratina" almost knowing we were going to lose at least a few times with him
Also personally I got lucky with hippowdon taking most of Volo's team, and my walrein taking out Giratina altered form while my empoleon and, luxray and Typhlosion took out his origin form
For the people who beat it first try it’s saying that Giratina doesn’t have a third phase (could you imagine) but for those who struggled it’s like, “About time you beat him!”
Were your Pokémon Alphas by chance?
@@izzylandyt I don't know about the other 2, but I only had A-empoleon that was level 70
It took me like a few hours to beat all three stages
Wow, your team consist of tanks lol. But might be viable since giratina is fast af.
I did this battle blind first try, using revives not to survive but to make sure my team gets as much exp as possible. Well, for once i wasnt underleveled as hell(BDSP cynthia at 53 lol). Most mons were around 70, with my typhlosion at 92(gave him every exp candy i got my hands on)
"Giratina! Strike him down!" Those are the last words you hear as the world is destroyed.
Nah. The last words after you destroy giratina with ease
@@mihaimercenarul7467 maybe if you overtune your team as some kind of super counter to Volo. Meanwhile I had no good team that wasn't weak to ground on 66.6% of members. Legit half of the new Pokémon and forms are weak to ground. Arcanine, Overqwil, Typhlosion, and Goodra were my favorites, I couldn't just not use them in the final battle.
@@Xigzagamer Look a lot of people overleveled in this game, it's pretty easy to because of how fun the game is, I never overleveled in the main story both pre and post game because I couldn't be assed to train, I fought Volo with a team of 57 and 67 Dialga. I beat Volo but took some amount of massive beating until I decided "I should train up a bit" (cause I would too stuck up to change teams). You'll see people bragging about first trying some bosses when no one asked, you'll get used to it lol
Game's fun doe, still playing now
Guess Ghetsis is no longer the only person who ordered a Legendary Pokémon to actually kill your character.
@@mihaimercenarul7467 oh your here on ever video giving hate and making people sound bad
My favorite thing about Giratina's theme
No matter how many years pass
No matter how much the music changes in the series
No matter what happens in the world
We will always have the bubbles.
And the flatline sounds
Yeah, the bubble sound affect and the fading heartbeat monitor to flatline sound affects are iconic parts of Giratina’s theme; really makes you feel like you’re battling the master of the distortion world.
I get now why they didn't remix the theme in the remakes. They've been keeping it for the real shit
They did remix the theme in the remakes.
It just didn't slap this hard.
@@davidneligan8186 it slaps so hard you would think that Mike Tyson slapped you
@@morganpriest7726 slaps harder than a adamant natured, guts boosted machamp.
@@MrSedgehammer slaps harder than Cynthia’s garchomp using dragon claw after three sword dances
They slapped it with the hand of God cause this was the game about God
I think we finally have the definitive hardest story boss ever in Pokemon yet
This makes ultra necrozma look like a pidgey
Nah. With exploits this fight is as easy as ultra necrozma with exploits
Pfft exploits…
@@mihaimercenarul7467 what do you mean by exploits?
@@deletoblue6675 run a zoroark camouflaged as a poison type, and ultra necrozma keeps using his psychic attacks (if memory serves)
@@mihaimercenarul7467 why are you all saying such nonsense
Ultra necrozma is infinitely harder than this. This was so easy.
Best battle in pokemon history. Period. The music, the athmosphere, Volo's theme and plot twist, everything was so amazing and challenging.I really hope to see more like this in the upcoming games!
Yes!
I'd love it if one day the PROFESSORS were the main antagonists that end up betraying you. How sick and different would that be?
Pokemon Scarlet and Violet's Plot twists are fire.
@@kittentamer2164 Buggiest games of the 21st century 😂
@@kittentamer2164 nah
holy shit dude, everything about the 2nd phase transition goes so hard.
that iconic heart monitor that was part of ‘tina’s original theme flatlines as the pitch lowers as if to actually signify death, but RIGHT AFTER the big “sike bitch!” stinger, it starts beeping again, and so does the heartbeat kick. and the guitar riff man. it’s almost as if Giratina was just too pissed to lose
Satan's pet yog-sothoth too angry to die.
hes like doom guy, to angry to die
BREAKING: POKEMON LITERALLY TOO ANGRY TO DIE
That flat line in the beginning when you thought you beat him then you hear the heart beat again when he's about to transform, so damn good.
Not only did they do Giratina justice for music and its battle, but they also gave Shadow Force its best animation to date. It really embodies how brutal Giratina is by tearing open a rift with its wing claws to attack the opponent.
Arceus banished me to the distortion world, now it's your turn, Jimbo.
I bet Giratina might appear in Doctor Strange 2 😂
Game: *YOU FINALLY DEFEATED GIRATINA!*
Giratina: *SIKE!*
Cell-Giratina: You.. You actually hit me...
Vegeta-Player: *Laughing triumphantly*
Cell-Giratina, fainting animation: STOP LAUGHING!
Vegeta-Player: *Continues laughing*
Cell-Giratina: ... You're a fool. *Eyes flash, and transforms before kicking player's butt to the grindstone*
I almost lost, but my underleveled Lilligant pulled a win out of thin air.
Giratina: you think this is funny
Player: *Laughing triumphantly*
Giratina: it's not funny as .. your face 😈
Player: what?
*YOU BEAT GIRATINA*
Giratina: trolololol
@@Ph4ntomSp1rit hey, I beat him with my Lilligant too.
One thing I really love about Giratina’s theme in PLA is that he has much more modern sounding music, and being the god of the opposite, of anti, this makes way to much sense.
Giratina going into second stage with this theme, best moment in modern Pokémon history. Maybe even all of Pokémon history
@@mihaimercenarul7467 .
Top 3 absolutely. Maybe not number 1 though.
@@mihaimercenarul7467 "wow you are so cool for being different, here is your medal" -noone
Modern history; yes maybe. All time; highly debatable even though whenever Giratina shows up he makes one hell of an entrance
This was pretty sick, but it doesn’t beat the sheer epicness of the delta episode imo
Yo this entire battle sequence RULED. As soon as I was done with Volo I was like "Ok sweet, Plate now pls", then he pulls a Reverse Cyrus and has Giratina fight for him (also a reverse Greevil because he fights with his normal party first, instead of fighting with Giratina first. But anyways). At this point, I have Gligar around, and I'm terribly glad it a) outsped Giratina and b) was bulky enough to live a Shadow Force so I could revive my Togekiss and Alpha Infernape (with Shadow Claw, just in case). Once I beat the Altered form, I was like "Ok phew! Managed to get through the fight and evasion with 2 mons left!". Then Giratina pulls a Super Perfect Cell (or a Cell vs Vegeta post-Final Flash, whatever you want). Eyes flash, and my celebration turns to dread "... ah."
Honestly, thank god I levelled Togekiss properly, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to first try clear it
Yep, fairy types really come in clutch this fight
Only if wigglytuff was in the game, Itd be a really good wall for Giritina
@@StickySubstanceConsumer I think it had Earth Power, so not exactly. But quite useful against its STABs for sure
@@bingchilling7900 honestly tho LMAO. I was real lucky I got that Shiny Stone, otherwise I definitely wouldn't have been able to win this on my first try
@@magmarman2633 as someone that brough a luxray to the fight, I can confirm that it does indeed have earth power
What I genuinely love is for a moment
*people forgot it could transform too.*
I never played pokemon arceus, but when I first saw the footage of someone fighting giratina I was like "that's not his primary form... oh."
Then surely enough, second phase.
"my brothers may have gotten stronger due to the rift, *BUT I WAS THE FIRST TO DO SO BTCHES* !"
Like, a week before I fought this, I played a fangame called pokemon insurgence, and Girarina was like a final boss, and he turned into a "primal" form which had it have every type, so only weak to rock, I thought maybe after I beat the "true" form of it, it'd do that, but alas, oh and if you haven't seen it, look up "Primal Girarina" it looks SO COOL
@@Jay_Games4409 insurgence is so peak
I thought it would go origin against volo, not me. Like giratina would get pissed off at volo for trying to demand it kill the player when it wasn't necessary or something along those lines.
Something I really like is how when go to catch Giratina, this theme starts from the middle, as if Giratina is picking up right where he left off from the previous fight
This battle was stupidly hard and I loved it
I love that the heart monitor drop happens WHEN giratina is "defeated" Then starts up again once he revives its such a good touch.
*Sends straight chills down my spine.*
I think this is a contender for the hardest battle in the series. An 8 v 6 with level 70 pokemon and 2 giratinas is absolutely insane
Giratina also has omnistats boost for this battle
@@azazaell18 cool. I thought so but I wasn't sure
and in all this (in addition to the fact that Volo and Giratina in both forms spam continuously) the team is not treated and consequently you find yourself facing 8 pokemon in 3 matches in a row.. so yes in my opinion this is the battle most difficult in all pokemon history
And the other 6 are a variation of Cynthia's team
This is the only story fight in the series that has taken me more than 5 tries; it took 8. It got frustrating how hard the difficulty spiked out of nowhere and I had to grind for 2 days and redo my team twice before I beat him. It would've been less frustrating if I knew something like this was going to happen (I thought I would have a noble-style fight against giratina) but it was still cool either way
This has to be one of the hardest post game fights in pokemon just by how its chained together with no time to rest.
Just a reminder, someday there's going to be kids having nightmares about this battle the same way that some people have nightmares about Cynthia
*_And I'm glad_*
Took me roughly 2 hours to get through the volo fight and giratina's first phase, only to find out he has a second stage in his origin form. This game PUNISHES you for pushing through the game, and I learned the hard way.
Indeed. Lesson of the game? DON'T GO IN HARD BATTLES UNDERLEVELED!
Lesson learned 😂🤷🏾♂️
@Phoenix Lozano Same bro, all my pokemon are mid 70s right now and I haven't done the Volo fight as I was preoccupied with completing the dex.
@Phoenix Lozano
Then you place the game right.
The fact that they used both the legendary theme and Giratina's theme for this battle is awesome because it's like a reference to Giratina in DP with his altered form and Giratina in Platinum with his origin form too. And the transition between the two rounds of the battle is just perfect thanks to that. Love it
I have not felt this much hype and a sense of actual dread with a difficult pokemon battle since Colosseum and Gale of Darkness. Give us more battles like this.
Took me a solid 5 attempts before i finally had enough of my team alive from Volo’s battle to stand a chance
Remember friends, Aux Powers are your friends
And max revives
I never actually used aux powers in this fight, I’m actually surprised I did it first try, I did use max revives. After beating I was like, “that was the hardest pokemon battle I have ever had”.
i just max out my Ev's with grits and my goodra solo'ed both Giratina
@@boltshinx40 same story but in my case i fought him 3 times (it was giratina that was my hell not Volo's team)
@@EihaMudo look my in eyes.....
*LOOK HOW MUCH IT TOOK JUST TO BREEZE THROUGH IT*
I absolutely love how the first flatline happens when Giratina goes down in the first fight, but then it revitalizes to show that it's still alive and gonna kill you
Even after the fight, you really didn’t truly beat it cause it still has enough strength to get the heck out of there
This game did Giratina the most justice in years.
gotta love the new direction they're taking of making legendaries just a bit more of an actual threat , with primal Groudon and Kyogre , Zygarde and his forms , Calyrex , Ultra Necrozma and Eternamax
And of course , this
Calyrex tho? Really?
@@ASquared544
It's a pretty busted mon. And even with lore it's probably the most intelligent being in the universe who isn't Arceus which is pretty crazy.
@@shyguyrocks1 What a huge noggin!
and then there's zamazenta
I like how the song basically resets and gets more intense when he goes into phase 2.
nah, it goes from generic legendary theme to Giratina's theme
1:50 lol giritina spins for no reason and then the player decided to spin together
This battle did my favorite legendary so much justice!! The only minor thing that would've elevated this fight to perfection is if Giratina dragged us to the distortion world and we did the fight there.
But that's honestly a nitpick, I'm so happy with what they did here and I hope we get more of it :D
Giratina is my favourite Pokémon… and in previous games he felt really underpowered… but now my boi learned the electric guitar and is the hardest battle in probably all Pokémon time.
@@Multxverse Somebody animate this!!
*who are you calling "underpowered" i am the ruler of the distortion world god damnit!*
Giratina really pulled the most epic "call an ambulance but not for me" moment in videogame bosses' history.
Hate to say it, but considering Shadow Girarina in BDSP and THIS in PLA... he's gotta be the hardest Pokémon in the franchise to date. Up there with Ultra Nec.
I'd honestly put him above ultra necrozma. With ultra necrozma you could cheese the fight with zoroark but with this behemoth. There are no exploits or loopholes.
I personally count this fight as part of the last volo battle, but the point still stands.
Except its stats aren't souped-up.
The rematch of arceus is also really hard
@@Giratina575 i think overlevelling is the only way haha
Legends Arceus really said, “Yeah no, he’s actually Satan.”
Which I mean that wasn’t ever a contested idea, but it was never confirmed. But in this game they literally give him the same backstory, heavily implying “Yeah he’s literally this world’s Satan.”
God I love the lore dumping in this game.
Nope. He becomes the good guy in Platinum, he dragged Cyrus to the Distortion World to stop space-time getting ripped apart by Dialga and Palkia
@@43dl3ntil I think that was after the events of Legends Arceus where I think Giratina realised how insane Volo's desire was, to not make the same mistake and redeem himself in front of Arceus he probably stops Cyrus as Cyrus also wants to make the world his way.
@@EdgarDZomboss yes, legends takes place hundreds of years before the sinnoh games at least
@@43dl3ntil Just because Satan had a redemption arc doesn't change him being Satan.
I feel like he’s more like Lucifer rather than Satan
No one talking about how perfectly Giratina’s first shadow force after transforming syncs with the music
I love the difference between everyone initial “woah giratina’s here!” and when the theme starts and the “OH GEEZ ITS *REALLY* GIRATINA”
The fade and electric guitar intro is just SO hype
I love this battle, it took me 5 tries and re-working my teams moves and strats, had to use a lot of revives and I still lost so many times, this was fantastic
What a boring fight
“I saw the future and I did not get a platinum remake. You lowly mortals couldn’t do one thing! You had ONE JOB! Now perish into the depths of the Distortion World” -Giratina. Probably
I had more trouble with this battle than with Ultra Necrozma in a Nuzlock run. Well done! And this music freaking slaps.. glad to play though it a few times. 🤣
Well. I knew this was coming. I’ve not even gotten past the 12th main mission, and I was exploring and found Turnback… I KNOWING I would never have a chance, walked in. And it. Was. Empty. So that scared the fuck out of me. I legit went ‘oh god who caught the devil’
oh shirt
Oh Arceus
Oh Sinnoh
My god is that foreboding.
Yes i have a very bad filling at this time
In Legend Arceus, Giratina sided with Volo for evil purpose. But after defeated, Giratina decided to protect Hisui (mentioned by Prof Laventon when Volo met him).
In present day, Giratina protect Hisui (now known as Sinnoh) from Cyrus' evil plan to harness Palkia's and Dialga's power by merging the real world and distortion world
They give you such a great angle of this when you face him again to catch him after beating Volo. It looks at you not with the terrifying glowing red eyes, but just stares at you, standing still, giving you this look of honor and respect, like it's saying without actually saying it, "prove your mettle, and I'll allow you to capture me; you have earned my respect".
I’ve been waiting for this. I don’t know who’s more terrifying, an entity of shadows who can consume you in an instant, or a god of unknown potential.
I remember in a UA-cam vid of the original version of this OST from DPP, someone pointed out that at 0:59 it sounded like a someone flatlining and ever since, that part it never failed to give me chills each time I heard it. Giratina's theme is one of the best, if not the best OST ever for a legendary Pokemon.
In this version, if you listen closely, they added a heartbeat too!
And after that you are shot.
What a waste of ammo am I right
Can we all agree that this is the best version of Giratina's theme.
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Yas
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Metal AF love this theme 🤟🏻
The true antagonist of Legends. Fed into Volo's obsession with Arceus, caused the rift which frenzied many Pokémon including its siblings, and made reality unstable as a result of everything.
Easily the biggest role giratina has played since platinum
Scariest part is Giratina isn't even trying to do that. It's just SUPER fixated on its job and has MAJOR anger issues so when someone, even god, tries to stop it from doing it, or someone tries to mess up the balance of the worlds, it gets too mad to think straight. Renegade indeed.
Yeah when Volo casually said he made Gira create that space rift before battle, I was like “AYO!! 😱”
@@annaalexandra8715 It's both. As much as people don't want to admit it, this game basically solidifies it the Pokémon's world's equivalent devil. Banished for rebelling against its creator, tempting people to its bidding like Volo, has a serpentine body in origin forme, and even has 6 wings (wing spikes in altered)/6 ribs/6 legs (or spikes in origin). It was even willing to tear down reality if it meant challenging Arceus.
It just doesn't have the overtly malevolent personality that most theists attribute to their interpretation of the devil. As you said, it ascribes to its own morals; it's simply an ill-tempered and rebellious child of Arceus.