I use a GBS Control on my MSX computers. The image quality is outstanding and I'm very pleased with the amount of options provided. I can't say much about lag since I usually use my MSX machines just to play casually or listen to music.
For me It solutions a bit of issues I have with Commodore Amigas with a modern CPU Accelerator that provides HDMI output... these boxes scale a variety of HDMI outputs well plus handles the RGB output. Also allows HDMI audio and Analog audio.. While it may not have the best quality, these boxes are fairly inexpensive and I can deploy a bunch of them to a lot of my retro systems.
Very good initial video concerning a crucial issue for everybody who deals with retrogaming and cannot afford (or simply doesn't want to buy) large and clumsy CRTs! Although I have a Panasonic CRT, I've followed some PV's hints about getting a better image using its video component inputs with a RGB converter and the results were astonishing on my MSX Turbo R FS-A1GT. I think this could be a matter for your next video, my friend! Thanks a lot for your high quality content!
Yup. Terrible box 😅 In the end test it's pretty clear, the HD converter uses that oil filter when in motion. You can see a similar thing when playing Lotus 2 on the Amiga. Shame considering many praise this box. Btw great video 👍
@@PhoticSneezeOne not to my knowledge. You can build a gbscontrol yourself (gbs8200 + espp) for about $30, but that's a DIY project and maybe not up to everyone's reach.
I use HD video convertor and I am satisfied for this price. Retrotink is better but not 3X better. There is better upscalers than Retrotink, just to mention as this looks more like ad.
Agreed that the retrotink2x is not the best one for it's price - a gbscontrol is the better cost benefit. But the retrotink2x is the only zero lag upscaler, so the best choice for the comparison, and at the same time, objectively it does beat the crap out of the HD Video Converter in all aspects - which is a fact, not an ad. If you don't game on it, the HD Video Converter may be reasonable, otherwise it's wasted money as both the retrotink2x or the Gbscontrol will do much better.
@@neoretropixels Well... I'm a very happy OSSC user and it is also "zero lag"... The price is even bigger than with retrotink2x and there are feature differences, so all of these are not really easy to compare. OSSC is a bit of a feature creep solution and it may need some tinkering with settings, but with correct settings it can handle pretty much any source you can get connected to it beautifully.
@NYYR1KK1 OSSC is awesome, and indeed, it has a lot of features to tinker with, but it's more than worth it. And it's not an outrageous price, that would be the Retrotink5X, which does 4k with CRT shaders that looks gorgeous.
Do you use upscalers? Which one? How well they do? Where you disappointed with the HD Video Converter as well? Let us know in the comments!
I use a GBS Control on my MSX computers. The image quality is outstanding and I'm very pleased with the amount of options provided. I can't say much about lag since I usually use my MSX machines just to play casually or listen to music.
For me It solutions a bit of issues I have with Commodore Amigas with a modern CPU Accelerator that provides HDMI output... these boxes scale a variety of HDMI outputs well plus handles the RGB output. Also allows HDMI audio and Analog audio.. While it may not have the best quality, these boxes are fairly inexpensive and I can deploy a bunch of them to a lot of my retro systems.
@roygillotti4615 indeed, they're very inexpensive. Not the best to game with then, but for enough if you want to watch demos and use the OS.
@PabloVasquesBravoVillalba gbscontrol is 4ms lag. Great in my opinion.
BTW, for a real Amiga, use RGB2HDMI! 🦜
NOW we're talking! Welcome aboard! :D It's nice to know we can rely on cheaper options (with a cost, of course)!
@PIXELPILOTS-STG indeed, it works with several limitations. If people are fine with them, great. Cheers, Filippe!
Very good initial video concerning a crucial issue for everybody who deals with retrogaming and cannot afford (or simply doesn't want to buy) large and clumsy CRTs! Although I have a Panasonic CRT, I've followed some PV's hints about getting a better image using its video component inputs with a RGB converter and the results were astonishing on my MSX Turbo R FS-A1GT. I think this could be a matter for your next video, my friend! Thanks a lot for your high quality content!
The biggest issue with these is it doesn't correctly interpret 240p it thinks the 240p signal is 480i so the image is BAD
@@MisterPezz82 indeed, deinterlacing will break the picture, which makes it look awful with scrolling games
Yup. Terrible box 😅
In the end test it's pretty clear, the HD converter uses that oil filter when in motion. You can see a similar thing when playing Lotus 2 on the Amiga.
Shame considering many praise this box.
Btw great video 👍
Thanks, this is really the point, it works to a certain extent, but it's far from the best upscaler out there. Cheers!
Lets invert the question: Is ther ANY halfway decent "budget" upscaler readily available today ?
@@PhoticSneezeOne not to my knowledge. You can build a gbscontrol yourself (gbs8200 + espp) for about $30, but that's a DIY project and maybe not up to everyone's reach.
@@neoretropixels Thank you very much!
I use HD video convertor and I am satisfied for this price. Retrotink is better but not 3X better. There is better upscalers than Retrotink, just to mention as this looks more like ad.
Agreed that the retrotink2x is not the best one for it's price - a gbscontrol is the better cost benefit. But the retrotink2x is the only zero lag upscaler, so the best choice for the comparison, and at the same time, objectively it does beat the crap out of the HD Video Converter in all aspects - which is a fact, not an ad. If you don't game on it, the HD Video Converter may be reasonable, otherwise it's wasted money as both the retrotink2x or the Gbscontrol will do much better.
@@neoretropixels Well... I'm a very happy OSSC user and it is also "zero lag"... The price is even bigger than with retrotink2x and there are feature differences, so all of these are not really easy to compare. OSSC is a bit of a feature creep solution and it may need some tinkering with settings, but with correct settings it can handle pretty much any source you can get connected to it beautifully.
@NYYR1KK1 OSSC is awesome, and indeed, it has a lot of features to tinker with, but it's more than worth it. And it's not an outrageous price, that would be the Retrotink5X, which does 4k with CRT shaders that looks gorgeous.