Alex, it is simple, when you use soul ring , you store 150 in a kinda virtual bank. When you cast a spell, it takes from that 150 mana before taking your mana pool
well thank you good sir. You are the only person that actually answered the question why this is a "myth" and not how soul ring works... I know very well how Soul Ring works. I even believe that, even though many said it doesn't, this mechanic works in DotA1 as well. playdota says something about creating a buffer if the mana gain doesn't fit into your current mana pool. So I guess it works in DotA1 too.
Soul Ring gives you a temporary 150 boost to your maximum mana. If you are not at full mana, this basically gives you 150 mana to use. But if you are at full mana, you stay at full mana. If you use 150 mana or less during this time, when it retracts that 150 bonus you are still at full mana. A free spell, essentially. Except for the HP cost, of course.
as a Dota fan and a programmer : Valve increased Roshan's size while hexed in diretide update. so every time roshan is hexed he grows and after hex is over it returns to its original size. But when hex got replaced things seems to get messy.
Now, yes. After the 6.78 patch, no. This is because rupture is now considered pure, which blade mail reflects, but it will be HP loss after the patch, which blade mail doesn't reflect.
You're not allowed to have two copies of the same spell, so you can't steal telekinesis, fade bolt or spell steal. However, if Rubick A has a different spell that he has stolen from someone else, Rubick B can then steal that spell from Rubick A :)
it's an ability designed to kill anything below a set amount of HP, so regardless if you have shallow grave or not it will kill if you are below that threshold
arcane bots is 1450 gold, and you have to have boots that costs 450 gold( wich aint that har to get) and energy booster that costs 1000 gold, wich may be hard to get in early game, soul ring is only 800 and you can get much faster in the side shop if you bring the recipe. i'm not saying its a core item but it helps alot if you are having a bad time
it showed it, soul ring increases your maximum mana pool, so if before soul ring you are 1000. after it you are at 1150. That extra 150 mana is temporary and can be used for anything, and will go away after the 30 seconds
1.Point: It s about the extension of the mana bar. if u have 1350 MaxMP ur MaxMP switches to 1500. if u have 1100/1350 mana it just refils the mana to 1350. 2.Point. if the amount of your MaxMP switchs. U have get the the same % of your actuell mana. 220/1100 turns to 200/1000 20%stays 20%. with soul ring and full mana: 1025/1150 turns to 1000/1000 instead of 960/1000 (yeah i now i did the maths wrong i want just to show it). So you can aktually safe up some more mana if u use SR on Max MP
Arcane boots take about 150 more gold to build than soul ring, assuming you will buy boots anyway. They are much better on supports since supports generally want support the team and giving them mana is a great way to do that.
Myth: With Spirit Breaker, if you die while casting his ultimate (during the casting animation) and buy back, will you teleport and deal damage to the hero you used your ultimate on?
Actually, Spirit Bear can have mana, if you give him an item that increases mana, such as Arcane Boots. Not recommended for serious play, and you did explain why Mana Leak insta-stun Spirit Bear, but Mana Leak will not ALWAYS insta-stun it.
if you have 300 mana and activate soul ring your mana will still 300 , if you use spell (say hookshot) your mana will be reduced 300-120 = 180 at the end of soul ring duration your mana will be replenished 180+150 = 330 =>300 limit
Which makes the 300 Gold bounty with next patch tomorrow justified, though he will probably fade out of the competitive scene if u're also considering armlet nerf
It just affects like the rubick would be the Doom. So if you cast it with rubick, and if you go further away from ultied doom, it affects the same way. If you go too far, from it, the effect stops
I do beg to differ. If u look even more carefully, you will a gain not in green, but in base intellgence (that and u can check with the glave throw) does more damage. Plus the mana increases.
you can, if Huskar has 50/2000 HP, Necrolyte will deal 51.75 damage after all reduction (theorycrafting), so huskar is plain dead, not to mention the heartstopper aura.
you should try, with any hero that needs mana to be efective(at least in the beggining) and can heal real quickly(omni, dazzle, skeleton king are some examples).
if you teleported the guy out of the lasso's range its not a bug (If Batrider moves more than 400 units in 0.05s the lasso breaks, same applies if the target itself moves that many units away from the bat)
oh sorry, it has being some time i dont use a support character, and yes i know what im taking about, i just forgot how muhc hp you had to sacrifice( that's why said "i think"), and you should keep reading because i'm pretty sure that a sou ring in a omnknight can be a greate advantage if you need som quick mana o heal yourself and allies!
i have something about silencer (don't know if true or not) when i was messing around just seeing how much intel i could get on him. it would notify me with a +2 when i killed someone with 1 intel left but my intel would never raise up any further even though on the passives little box it said it was. so again, i don't know for sure but it might be worth a check out.
you can have multiple aegis as long as you don't pick them up. They won't disappear if you leave them on the ground. It's useless in actual matches though.
LION: RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN! It's ROSHZILLA! Shadow Shaman: It looks like Roshzilla but due to Blizzard's copyright law, it's not! LION: STILL WE SHOULD RUN LIKE IT IS ROSHZILLA! Shadow Shaman: Though it isn't! Both: AHHHHHH Do that in SFM Swordz I beg of you!
first of all you can't hex someon else if you're hexed and second of all as sunsfan already said, Roshan will only grow dubble his size so no further effects take place.
Only right at the end of the Zeus clip do you see his mana pool go from 1502 back to 1352 which is what it was before he used soul ring. This confused me for ages cos the clip starts with 1502 cos he used soul ring as soon as the clip started not allowing us to see that Zeus actually started with 1352 mana.
I've been researching this for a bit now, and i just wanna see DC do it now, but aegis expires in 6 min if you pick it up. Not if you leave it on the ground.
In dota1, u need to spend some of mana before u can use soul ring to gain extra mana if ur mana is full then soul ring doesnt has any effect but in dota2 i believe that u can use soul ring whenever u needed
you sacrifice some health( 100 hp i think) and get 150 mana for a short time, it helps a lot for heroes that need mana andcan regai health really fast, like my favorite omnkinight( sacrifice 100 hp to get 150 mana, heal yourself to get mre 30 hp haha)
What happens, relating to the new Doom Ulti. If Rubick Steals it and casts it on Doom, would that mean Doom is never out of his own range and perma-Doom's until death?
Right, if u are below the certain hp needed for the instant kill, nothing will save u, no bkb no dazzle shallow grave nothing u just die. axe will be stunned from carapace though.
Before, if you had full mana when using Soul Ring, it would never go beyond the maximum cap. Meaning it is wasted 150 hp for mana you would never receive.
Spirit bear can have mana, if you buy item that gives mana. Then kotl mana leak wont stun it. You can also use Dagon and other mana items for bear, New meta
Alex, it is simple, when you use soul ring , you store 150 in a kinda virtual bank. When you cast a spell, it takes from that 150 mana before taking your mana pool
well thank you good sir. You are the only person that actually answered the question why this is a "myth" and not how soul ring works... I know very well how Soul Ring works.
I even believe that, even though many said it doesn't, this mechanic works in DotA1 as well. playdota says something about creating a buffer if the mana gain doesn't fit into your current mana pool. So I guess it works in DotA1 too.
Soul Ring gives you a temporary 150 boost to your maximum mana. If you are not at full mana, this basically gives you 150 mana to use. But if you are at full mana, you stay at full mana. If you use 150 mana or less during this time, when it retracts that 150 bonus you are still at full mana. A free spell, essentially. Except for the HP cost, of course.
I have a couple myths.
Multiple meepo clones will split Skywraths mystic flare between the meepos.
Lifestealer can infest meepo clones.
as a Dota fan and a programmer :
Valve increased Roshan's size while hexed in diretide update.
so every time roshan is hexed he grows and after hex is over it returns to its original size. But when hex got replaced things seems to get messy.
Now, yes. After the 6.78 patch, no. This is because rupture is now considered pure, which blade mail reflects, but it will be HP loss after the patch, which blade mail doesn't reflect.
Myth to check : Nyx Assassin's 3rd skill Spiked Carapace damage return stacks with Blade Mail's Damage return.
You're not allowed to have two copies of the same spell, so you can't steal telekinesis, fade bolt or spell steal. However, if Rubick A has a different spell that he has stolen from someone else, Rubick B can then steal that spell from Rubick A :)
it's an ability designed to kill anything below a set amount of HP, so regardless if you have shallow grave or not it will kill if you are below that threshold
arcane bots is 1450 gold, and you have to have boots that costs 450 gold( wich aint that har to get) and energy booster that costs 1000 gold, wich may be hard to get in early game, soul ring is only 800 and you can get much faster in the side shop if you bring the recipe. i'm not saying its a core item but it helps alot if you are having a bad time
it showed it, soul ring increases your maximum mana pool, so if before soul ring you are 1000. after it you are at 1150. That extra 150 mana is temporary and can be used for anything, and will go away after the 30 seconds
Myth:
With Troll Warlord you can apply the bash chance if you quickly switch to melee while a throwing axe in still in the air
1:50 I've seen it when reborn came out. Thought reborn was bugged completely lol.
hey, dota cinema , i love your videos thanks for the great enterteinment
Axe's ulti purges all buffs before killing the target. That's why it ignores carapace and shallow grave.
Myth about gaining negative stats was already busted in previous episode... Why again?
that steal intelligence part, i have seen it from a previous episode
yeah a lot of people dont understand that soul ring creates a mana buffer, so you can use it at full hp to gain more max mana.
1.Point: It s about the extension of the mana bar. if u have 1350 MaxMP ur MaxMP switches to 1500. if u have 1100/1350 mana it just refils the mana to 1350.
2.Point. if the amount of your MaxMP switchs. U have get the the same % of your actuell mana. 220/1100 turns to 200/1000 20%stays 20%. with soul ring and full mana: 1025/1150 turns to 1000/1000 instead of 960/1000 (yeah i now i did the maths wrong i want just to show it).
So you can aktually safe up some more mana if u use SR on Max MP
FINALLY!! MYTHBUTTSTARS ARE BACK!
Myth: Killing Roshan and leaving the aegis on the ground will cause there to be 2 aegises when you kill roshan the second time.
Arcane boots take about 150 more gold to build than soul ring, assuming you will buy boots anyway. They are much better on supports since supports generally want support the team and giving them mana is a great way to do that.
Myth: With Spirit Breaker, if you die while casting his ultimate (during the casting animation) and buy back, will you teleport and deal damage to the hero you used your ultimate on?
Actually, Spirit Bear can have mana, if you give him an item that increases mana, such as Arcane Boots. Not recommended for serious play, and you did explain why Mana Leak insta-stun Spirit Bear, but Mana Leak will not ALWAYS insta-stun it.
you can do it in custom games with cheat enabled by writing -createhero Roshan, or -createhero Roshan enemy for one that is on the other team
if you have 300 mana and activate soul ring your mana will still 300 ,
if you use spell (say hookshot) your mana will be reduced 300-120 = 180
at the end of soul ring duration your mana will be replenished 180+150 = 330 =>300 limit
480p, 30 minutes buff.
1080p, instant buff, perfect play.
Woah that roshan trick is awesome!
Which makes the 300 Gold bounty with next patch tomorrow justified, though he will probably fade out of the competitive scene if u're also considering armlet nerf
It just affects like the rubick would be the Doom. So if you cast it with rubick, and if you go further away from ultied doom, it affects the same way. If you go too far, from it, the effect stops
I do beg to differ. If u look even more carefully, you will a gain not in green, but in base intellgence (that and u can check with the glave throw) does more damage. Plus the mana increases.
you can, if Huskar has 50/2000 HP, Necrolyte will deal 51.75 damage after all reduction (theorycrafting), so huskar is plain dead, not to mention the heartstopper aura.
you should try, with any hero that needs mana to be efective(at least in the beggining) and can heal real quickly(omni, dazzle, skeleton king are some examples).
Finally after so long
if you teleported the guy out of the lasso's range its not a bug (If Batrider moves more than 400 units in 0.05s the lasso breaks, same applies if the target itself moves that many units away from the bat)
because many people thought, that it doesn't extend the maximum mana pool if you are at full mana
oh sorry, it has being some time i dont use a support character, and yes i know what im taking about, i just forgot how muhc hp you had to sacrifice( that's why said "i think"), and you should keep reading because i'm pretty sure that a sou ring in a omnknight can be a greate advantage if you need som quick mana o heal yourself and allies!
He will only be killed by a normal attack if the other guy is quite farmed. A little known fact is that hp is calculated by str+250
Essentially by using soul ring when you have full mana,you are technically increasing the amount of MAX mana capacity you have
If 2 heroes at the same team with pipes of insight will use it's active at the same time will it refresh time duration, grant doubled shield, or both?
The Soul Ring only doesn't return the mana exactly but overcharges it like the blood mages mana siphon in warcraft 3.
Does the second attack from weaver's germinate, drain life if he is with vladmir's offering?
Meat Hook will pull magic immune and invulnerable targets but will not mini-stun nor deal any damage to them.
vlads lifesteal only works on meelee heroes and any other orb effect doesnt apply on the 2nd hit either(lifesteal, desolator, etc)
Here's one for you guys:
You can cast Dark Pack before being doom to dispel it.
It means that it adds 150 mana on your current mana but you will still have full mana after soul ring's duration after casting a spell.
Ok since people comment about Roshzilla, we must ask Swordz to do that Godzilla Japanese "RUN, IT'S GODZILLA!" with SFM and DOTA2 characters!
It's only when he doesn't get the kill. The intelligence he gains is just multiplying his kills by 2.
i have something about silencer (don't know if true or not) when i was messing around just seeing how much intel i could get on him. it would notify me with a +2 when i killed someone with 1 intel left but my intel would never raise up any further even though on the passives little box it said it was. so again, i don't know for sure but it might be worth a check out.
At the start it links to the previous episode, which was ep. 32.
It's because he didn't show Silencer's stats, he only showed Sven's stats as that was the myth
you can have multiple aegis as long as you don't pick them up. They won't disappear if you leave them on the ground. It's useless in actual matches though.
Question: does rupture (bloodseeker's ult) proc Nyx assassin's spiked carapace?
U Can use the blink dagger durning Juggernaut omnislah and omnislash nearby target
Suddenly after a month wild mythbusters appear.
LION: RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN! It's ROSHZILLA!
Shadow Shaman: It looks like Roshzilla but due to Blizzard's copyright law, it's not!
LION: STILL WE SHOULD RUN LIKE IT IS ROSHZILLA!
Shadow Shaman: Though it isn't!
Both: AHHHHHH
Do that in SFM Swordz I beg of you!
first of all you can't hex someon else if you're hexed and second of all as sunsfan already said, Roshan will only grow dubble his size so no further effects take place.
that, would be priceless! see them ran inside the rosh pit, and den come running out, and go in again to see if their eyes are playing tricks on them
Are any of roshan's stats increased as a result of this (eg stun chance, dmg, att. speed, health, armour)?
The spirit bear one is true, UNLESS you buy soul ring on it, then it wont stun the bear immediatly, if im not mistaken that is.
Only right at the end of the Zeus clip do you see his mana pool go from 1502 back to 1352 which is what it was before he used soul ring. This confused me for ages cos the clip starts with 1502 cos he used soul ring as soon as the clip started not allowing us to see that Zeus actually started with 1352 mana.
I've been researching this for a bit now, and i just wanna see DC do it now, but aegis expires in 6 min if you pick it up. Not if you leave it on the ground.
Lich can sacrifice neutral camp creeps controlled by Helm of the Dominator
Another DotA 2 related myth: Neil is the worst Pudge ever, how can we confirm or deny this?
The doom ultimate would consider Rubick as the indicator for the range.
U can use soul ring on bear to cast meka not sure if it work with other items that need mana though..or how it will interact with kotl mana leak...
Probably this is why in Only Mid (where you can pick the same hero more times) Rubick is buggy :D
wow finally one mythbuster
can someone explain the soul ring thing? I've always not been so sure of the full mechanics and i dont think the video showed it very well.
what would happen if you got a point booster on the spirit bear? (for sick dagon bear builds clearly)
In dota1, u need to spend some of mana before u can use soul ring to gain extra mana if ur mana is full then soul ring doesnt has any effect but in dota2 i believe that u can use soul ring whenever u needed
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ITS BACK!
Do Items like Crystalis Daedalus and heavens halberd stack with BrewMasters Passive?
I think he collects the aegis no matter where it is when he respawns. Might cause there to be 2, but I don't think it would.
you sacrifice some health( 100 hp i think) and get 150 mana for a short time, it helps a lot for heroes that need mana andcan regai health really fast, like my favorite omnkinight( sacrifice 100 hp to get 150 mana, heal yourself to get mre 30 hp haha)
this roshan fight is hillarious
no, since it is rubick's doom, he will only be perma doomed when he is within rubick's range
The last myth isnt a myth at all, its written on soul rings description that if you are at full mana you will get additonal mana pool for the time
It will not have a chance to two aegis because the timer to roshan respawn just start counting after you pick aegis.
does the double hex work on heroes or creeps too? this would be funny :D
If axe uses Culling Blade on an low hp enemy with the Shallow Grave buff, the hero will die anyway
Axe's ult goes through basically everything
What happens, relating to the new Doom Ulti. If Rubick Steals it and casts it on Doom, would that mean Doom is never out of his own range and perma-Doom's until death?
Does medusa's stone gaze affect enemies when she's in fog ?
the mana leak on bear is true, but not if the bear has an energy or point booster
no it would likely be that rubick would have to be close to doom to stop the cooldown
No it works completely fine in dota 1.
I tried it with Skeleton King in almost every game.
Right, if u are below the certain hp needed for the instant kill, nothing will save u, no bkb no dazzle shallow grave nothing u just die. axe will be stunned from carapace though.
Before, if you had full mana when using Soul Ring, it would never go beyond the maximum cap. Meaning it is wasted 150 hp for mana you would never receive.
does slark still gains attributes if a person has run out?
2:07 "Honey, i'm home" *hug wife*
They've done it a few times with different myths. It's not uncommon for people to spot it out.
I can tell you for a fact that it does not. Spiked Carapace overrides Blademail.
Spirit bear can have mana, if you buy item that gives mana. Then kotl mana leak wont stun it. You can also use Dagon and other mana items for bear, New meta
when you have full mana bar it add 150 mana to your mana pool instead of over capping it and waste it ending in burning health for nothing.
the negative stats myth was already covered in a previous episode
There i a way to not make your bear get stunned, get an energy booster or a point booster, it will give the bear mana, thus draining mana
i don't think so, since it gets reclaimed before next rosh spawns
Spirit Breaker's ultimate would not trigger on weaver if he time lapses while SB is casting.