The builder cost 3200 gold and used 20000 gold and 10000 wood, while the 256 dead grunts amount to 153600 gold. So it was an economic victory for the builders.
I wonder if the peasants would have won if they had unlimited funding? Or if their repair speed on the towers would have been overwhelmed by the orc damage eventually anyway?🤔
The last fight made me realize that the sound of 30+ elven archers is a hypnotic, almost soothing white-noise. Instead of listening to rain to sleep, I need a rain of arrows.
I never really had fun with RTS games, but watching this teleported me back to the 90s and suddenly made me realize all of the hype around the OG warcraft & starcraft series.
lol at the last one. I was thinking Horde had this in the bag, then it panned over to all of those demo squads; then I was like nope they're screwed. XD
Awesome!!! Another WC2 Fight Club! The 8 Peasant Tower Defense against the Grunts was TRULY AMUSING! Haha! The Final War Battle was so Epic! Alliance Armies destroying the Horde Base same as like The Last Alliance VS. The Armies of Sauron in Mordor in LOTR!!! Mages VS. Ogres was predictable and expected.
@@sphtpfhorbrains3592 from the start, i knew the wall of sheep would have happened haha. Kinda like the same concept in some certain custom maps in WC3 where you can play Alliance then summon either Archmage or Blood Mage then buy and use a mechanical sheep to serve as a barrier from powerful neutral creeps and kill them all safely even at lvl 1.
@@justinedc1077 But if the ogres were smarter and attacked the sheep more instead of waiting, the result could have been different. Basically since ogres killed sheeps in one strike, the sheep should not have blocked them that much if the IA was smarter.
@@francoisdross5557 there is the factor of AI and/or player skill micro controls... But EXCLUDING those factors, mages will always be the best and most powerful unit in wc2. Polymorph = instant death in wc2. In this battle, its 200 mages vs 250 ogres. So WHAT IF they are in same numbers? What if the mages are also 250, or the ogres are same 200 only? The ogres will lose nonetheless even if they kill the wall of sheeps.
The DK also used their default attack against the ballistae at the end of the fight, I'm not sure if that was intended. Not using it would not have changed the outcome of the battle anyway, just wanted to mention this.
@@jeroti187Kind of but not really, since there was no way the mages could've made a difference otherwise (200 mages vs 250 ogres), so ogres would've won and the battle wouldn't have made sense.
"Can you predict the winner of each fight?" I've never played this game in my life and didn't even know it existed until I saw your video about it a few months ago
You did not know of the existence of Warcraft, one of the most sold out RTS games of all times and for a long time the flagship of Blizzard...? Dawg, I guess Warcraft was not that popular by years, feeling old right now
@@LexLuker-no9ed Or just born too late. Let's be real, WoW is 20 years old now, so most people under 25 grew up with that as the defacto WarCraft game and StarCraft is the go-to Blizzard RTS for the competitive scene. It's really not that surprising that a lot of younger people don't know of the WarCraft RTS games, all things considered.
based off of the thumbnail saying it was ONLY 8 Peasants I was thinking "...that's not much of a fight" and then the video happened and it was beautiful. were the Peasants player-controlled or was it AI?
@@ellohimeadam3852 Are u talking about AI in 2023 or the one in wc2? cuz u know they didnt update it with openai XD even then, it would need to be trained and told what to do so i wouldnt call that easily.
Great video, long time no see, friend, glad to meet again. I see that you improve your ideas, the last siege of the base leads us to some sort of hostorical fights and wars and i think its pretty good.
I wasn’t surprised by the mage vs ogre one. I was five or six when I first played this game so I always used cheats. The infinite mana cheat also gave infinite mana to the computer and I remember one level where I had to funnel my army through a choke point to get to the alliance base there was a group of mages who turned everything I sent at them into sheep. 😅
For the peasants/grunts fight, I wonder if the peasants would have done better if they'd built guard towers instead of cannon towers, since guard towers upgrade faster and fire faster, so they would have thinned out the grunts sooner before they cleared the row of town halls. Guard towers are also cheaper, so the peasants would have had more money for repairs at the end. The only advantages the cannon towers have here are the splash damage, and I guess having slightly higher hp, and I don't think that gives them enough benefit in this fight. I could be wrong in this case; I've just long felt that guard towers are vastly superior to cannon towers in this game.
Have you tried Dentarg vs Danath, Turlayon and Alleria? I know Dentarg is really powerful and can beat Danath and Turlayon with minimal damage, but can he take Alleria too?
"I'm gonna keep moving right into the death and decay field-that's a winning tactic!" Balista commander who led 500 balista to thier death...and decay. I wish I could show an old High School friend that last fight since his primary WC2 strategy was "surround base with guard towers." That peasant fight, though.
An experiment proposal. I'd like to see identical armies fight each other, but you organize the waves opposite of one another. One army has least expensive units in the Frontline and most expensive in the back, other army has most expensive up front and least expensive in the back. I wanna know which is better strategy
Those ballistas never stood a chance. Human controlled might be a different story. Also, the demo squads in the last sequence were almost useless, just damage sponges.
При нажатии на Ратушу - у вас показывалось прямо на здании состояние "здоровья" этого здания. Это монтаж или какое-то новое открытие программистов в мире варкрафт 2?
I have to wonder if the peasants couldn't have lasted longer and killed more with better building placements. It looked like only a couple of the towers were firing at the front line of orcs. and they didn't start firing for a very long time for some reason. @2:43 the bottom tower finished building. it's first shot was at 3:07 or 3:08. do they just not fire for 25 seconds after building? oh I see, I guess even though the peasants left the building it still was not finished building
I wonder if the peasants should have trained an extra peasant or two from the town halls before they fell, with the resources they had. They would have run out of resources sooner, but the cannon tower might have gotten more good shots off before the town halls fell. After they fall, they try to shoot the closest units and deal little damage to them.
I already made lots of Red Alert Fight Club videos but I ran out of ideas. Do you mean Red Alert 2? I was hoping they would Remaster it but it doesn't seem to be happening.
9:30 - And what did we learn from the last skirmish? Taking the Eagles to Mordor doesn't work. But taking the Eagles plus the allied army to Mordor DOES work.
I can see why polymorph and exorcism as well death coil being so OP in this game to the point it is being nerfed and completely removed the exorcism from the third game.
I thought the Ogres would've made minced meat of them, not knowing they'd rather prefer lamb. That Peasant fight went totally different than i expected, i wasn't sure what the money would've been for, maybe somehow bribing Orcs out of fighting (i only played it a couple of times back in the 90s), but that was a valiant effort. Despite the seemingly obvious setup, i still betted on the Ballistas, and i think they did fine. Always rooting for Horde, although i should kinda know by now that a video usually ends with a village burned down. 0-4 Score this time around, hah.
Those are really nice to watch. Is this series based on the cutscenes from the game that would show the AI fighting each other? Cause I have to say they really look inspired by that.
1st fight : 200 mages vs 250 ogres , before watch , i bet 200 mages win , i go watch now , ok i see i won , now next 2 nd fight : i dont bet because i didnt understand whats going on here , hehe , now after watch i got it , maybe interesting if peasants had infinite money 3 rd fight : i bet for ballistas , ok i lose 4 th : i go for humans , btw this fight is just op , thx for it , and i win again
I love how an ogre's first instinct on seeing a sheep is to punch it, completely forgetting that it used to be his buddy.
Foods food in their eyes
If he can't have his friend, *_nobody can._*
It was an odd way to realise that I too am an ogre
@@davidburnett5049and the cannibalism wasn't alien in their kind
Just getting rid of shou tucker.... I mean the mages' abominations.
The grunts won the battle, but the builders won my heart.
the builders shouldn't have gotten that far, the blacksmith costs 100 oil. it wasn't included.
@@Quirriffgood catch
The builder cost 3200 gold and used 20000 gold and 10000 wood, while the 256 dead grunts amount to 153600 gold. So it was an economic victory for the builders.
peasants vs orcs was amazing and so pleasant to watch
agreed, was hoping the peasants would win tho
@@majermike they kinda win a pyric victory for the orcs
Epic
You mean it was "peasant" to watch? 😏
@@MrOrmanley ahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! hahahahahha
pyrrhic victories for the Alliance and the Grunts. I about died when the peasants executed their game plan lol
They just ran out of funding.
Haha, that was awesome indeed
I wonder if the peasants would have won if they had unlimited funding? Or if their repair speed on the towers would have been overwhelmed by the orc damage eventually anyway?🤔
@@milagro795 I think so, they could go with a double-wall of Town Halls then put a pile of Cannon Towers behind them.
That's pros playing in multiplayer
That peasant fight was very clever.
Did not expect that matchup being this much more efficient.
Same. Caught me completely off guard. Brilliant video.
If they canceled the Barracks in time before it finished as well to refund resources before it ran out it would've been alot closer
Warcraft 2 in 2023? I am so down for this! Brings back so many memories of childhood.
The last fight made me realize that the sound of 30+ elven archers is a hypnotic, almost soothing white-noise. Instead of listening to rain to sleep, I need a rain of arrows.
Then we shall nap in the shade!
@@andrewmartin3671nice reference 😎
THIS IS SPARTA lol
I've been fiending for a new Stu video! Thanks Mr. Pid, and keep up the great work!
Thanks for all of the support, Douglas! A lot more to come :)
Warcraft 1 and 2 were the first RTS games I ever played. Love the SFX from these games so much. Please keep up with the awesome videos!
death and decay sure sounds suspiciously like sizzling bacon
Dude this video was outstanding! The peasants match was inventive and that gigantic battle at the end was incredible. More please!!!
I had the same thoughts
Your army vs. base scenarios are always fun to watch.
Those rocks were mvp
At first I said "Orc Base 100%" then I saw the suicide bombers and birds and did a 180
Maybe if the peasants had just 2500 more resources it woulda worked out, but I’m honestly unsurprised lol
I never really had fun with RTS games, but watching this teleported me back to the 90s and suddenly made me realize all of the hype around the OG warcraft & starcraft series.
lol at the last one. I was thinking Horde had this in the bag, then it panned over to all of those demo squads; then I was like nope they're screwed. XD
Awesome!!! Another WC2 Fight Club!
The 8 Peasant Tower Defense against the Grunts was TRULY AMUSING! Haha!
The Final War Battle was so Epic! Alliance Armies destroying the Horde Base same as like The Last Alliance VS. The Armies of Sauron in Mordor in LOTR!!!
Mages VS. Ogres was predictable and expected.
Mages vs. ogres was the only time I picked the wrong side in this video.
@@sphtpfhorbrains3592 from the start, i knew the wall of sheep would have happened haha.
Kinda like the same concept in some certain custom maps in WC3 where you can play Alliance then summon either Archmage or Blood Mage then buy and use a mechanical sheep to serve as a barrier from powerful neutral creeps and kill them all safely even at lvl 1.
@@justinedc1077 I never played WC3 or WoW, to be honest.
@@justinedc1077 But if the ogres were smarter and attacked the sheep more instead of waiting, the result could have been different. Basically since ogres killed sheeps in one strike, the sheep should not have blocked them that much if the IA was smarter.
@@francoisdross5557 there is the factor of AI and/or player skill micro controls...
But EXCLUDING those factors, mages will always be the best and most powerful unit in wc2. Polymorph = instant death in wc2.
In this battle, its 200 mages vs 250 ogres. So WHAT IF they are in same numbers? What if the mages are also 250, or the ogres are same 200 only?
The ogres will lose nonetheless even if they kill the wall of sheeps.
The peasants should have won after all that work. Great fights
"Job's dooone!"
They would have if they had just a couple thousand more gold and lumber.
The DK also used their default attack against the ballistae at the end of the fight, I'm not sure if that was intended. Not using it would not have changed the outcome of the battle anyway, just wanted to mention this.
It probably spent all its mana earlier in the fight
The mages also attacked after using polymorph so it was fair play
@@jeroti187Kind of but not really, since there was no way the mages could've made a difference otherwise (200 mages vs 250 ogres), so ogres would've won and the battle wouldn't have made sense.
0:19 i love how the ogree quote fits here perfectly like a sock.
the reason THE HORDE lost that last fight was fkn Gul'dan ruined everything!
"Can you predict the winner of each fight?" I've never played this game in my life and didn't even know it existed until I saw your video about it a few months ago
You did not know of the existence of Warcraft, one of the most sold out RTS games of all times and for a long time the flagship of Blizzard...? Dawg, I guess Warcraft was not that popular by years, feeling old right now
Dude must have been living under a rock. Loved wc1 and wc2
Это игра моего детства. Последующая WC3 полная ерунда
@@LexLuker-no9ed Or just born too late. Let's be real, WoW is 20 years old now, so most people under 25 grew up with that as the defacto WarCraft game and StarCraft is the go-to Blizzard RTS for the competitive scene. It's really not that surprising that a lot of younger people don't know of the WarCraft RTS games, all things considered.
WoW is 20 years and not much played by the younger audience. As well as Starcraft for that matter.
Those quirky fights were quite enjoyable to watch. Thanks for making these, Stu!
This was brilliant. Was not expecting this kind of battle. 10/10.
based off of the thumbnail saying it was ONLY 8 Peasants I was thinking "...that's not much of a fight" and then the video happened and it was beautiful.
were the Peasants player-controlled or was it AI?
I controlled the peasants. 😎
AI isnt that advanced, come on.
@@lolmao500 ummm.. yes it is. AI could easily do this LOL
@@ellohimeadam3852 Are u talking about AI in 2023 or the one in wc2? cuz u know they didnt update it with openai XD even then, it would need to be trained and told what to do so i wouldnt call that easily.
@@Squibie I mean AI in general. It would take 3 days or less to train this.
Great video as always
Given enough time and resources, a Peasant (or peon) can overcome any obstacle. Truly the most dangerous soldier of second great war.
I remember back in the day i used to play this game every day trying to finish its unimaginable hard campaigns , good times..
That was hilarious!!! I forgot that the peasants could barricade themselves. For a while there, I thought they might even win!
Wow seeing Warcraft II again makes me so happy and nostalgic
I suppose if Peasants didn't ran out of resources, they might have won. 🤔🤔🤔
i cant believe that something like this can be a content and i watched that till the end lol
these fights are utterly ridiculous and I love it
How do the death knights outrange fing ballostas
Great video, long time no see, friend, glad to meet again. I see that you improve your ideas, the last siege of the base leads us to some sort of hostorical fights and wars and i think its pretty good.
For the Ogre vs Mage fight, I would think Fireballs would have worked.
How do you make those armies scenarios? They are very nice and detailed, not just some buildings and units slapped together.
I wasn’t surprised by the mage vs ogre one. I was five or six when I first played this game so I always used cheats. The infinite mana cheat also gave infinite mana to the computer and I remember one level where I had to funnel my army through a choke point to get to the alliance base there was a group of mages who turned everything I sent at them into sheep. 😅
The ballistas vs DKs one is the best, the wave of explosions is so cool
Ballistas vs. Donkey Kongs
@@gdtyra i would pay to see that
is there any mission from starcraft 2 (brutal) thats harder than brood war zerg mission 8 (to sley the beast)?
Idk if you realize how crazy 53k views/ 2 weeks for such an old game is. Congratz !
Amazing video, but you already know about this.
Hell just discovered this diamond series please do more warcraft 2 fight club!!! BIG TIME HUGE LOVE
Those peasants would clearly be the type to have epic songs written about their defeat.
For the peasants/grunts fight, I wonder if the peasants would have done better if they'd built guard towers instead of cannon towers, since guard towers upgrade faster and fire faster, so they would have thinned out the grunts sooner before they cleared the row of town halls. Guard towers are also cheaper, so the peasants would have had more money for repairs at the end. The only advantages the cannon towers have here are the splash damage, and I guess having slightly higher hp, and I don't think that gives them enough benefit in this fight.
I could be wrong in this case; I've just long felt that guard towers are vastly superior to cannon towers in this game.
Why did you limit the combat width so heavily in the horde base battle
another great vid mate loved it cant wait for the next one
What about doing so in Beyond All Reason?
I was so sad about how it turned out for the peasants, but they put up a good fight!
Have you tried Dentarg vs Danath, Turlayon and Alleria? I know Dentarg is really powerful and can beat Danath and Turlayon with minimal damage, but can he take Alleria too?
"I'm gonna keep moving right into the death and decay field-that's a winning tactic!" Balista commander who led 500 balista to thier death...and decay.
I wish I could show an old High School friend that last fight since his primary WC2 strategy was "surround base with guard towers."
That peasant fight, though.
the peasants vs grunts reminds me of one of the premade maps that is literally a peasant surrounded by an orc army.
1:41 whats the name of the music?
Warcraft 2 horde soundtrack 2
The peasants vs orcs is a textbook example of a war of attrition.
oh my god, someone else who still cares about warcraft 2.. i thought it vanished from everyones memory in the late 90s.
Who are the yellow colored Alliance faction?
The death night/balista one was super satisfying to watch!
@2:24
I guess that Orc was the one who said this would be a breeze.
Lore accurate infighting
An experiment proposal. I'd like to see identical armies fight each other, but you organize the waves opposite of one another. One army has least expensive units in the Frontline and most expensive in the back, other army has most expensive up front and least expensive in the back. I wanna know which is better strategy
Still waiting for the day when I can predict the winner of each fight😔
It seems like a fun game to play with friends and make small bets on.
@@sphtpfhorbrains3592 Yes indeed, only problem is that I don't have friends
@@kBandikdon't worry, soon AI can be you friend. Old ways is too unreliable.
@@Moon_Cricket_Stinks ChatGPT my beloved🥰
How do you make these?
Those ballistas never stood a chance. Human controlled might be a different story. Also, the demo squads in the last sequence were almost useless, just damage sponges.
Thinking of branching into the older Age of Empires games?
При нажатии на Ратушу - у вас показывалось прямо на здании состояние "здоровья" этого здания. Это монтаж или какое-то новое открытие программистов в мире варкрафт 2?
it's video editing
Battle's not over and several of the Alliance soldiers peel off to slaughter the peons.
Where can I get Warcraft 2? I’ve always wanted to try it but its not battlement anywhere
it's on GOG
I have to wonder if the peasants couldn't have lasted longer and killed more with better building placements. It looked like only a couple of the towers were firing at the front line of orcs. and they didn't start firing for a very long time for some reason. @2:43 the bottom tower finished building. it's first shot was at 3:07 or 3:08. do they just not fire for 25 seconds after building?
oh I see, I guess even though the peasants left the building it still was not finished building
They have to be upgraded before they can shoot
Peasants vs grunt was a tactical genius battle and alliance vs horde was pure menace..
Predictions
Fight 1: Mages
Fight 2: grunts
Fight 3: Death knights
Fight 4: Alliance
very nice
Now this is the content i'm after hell yeah
One more Peasant and maybe 1000 Gold + 500 Wood more, They would win.
If they canceled the barracks right before it finished building to refund some resources it could've kept them in the fight a bit longer
This is weirder than my crazy dreams... And that's a lot to top.
This is not Warcraft 2. This is Warcraft 2000 nuclear epidemic. I love this game.
that was 32 orcs per peasant
Accurate summary of the first half of the second war
Is there anyway to play this on android? I really miss this game
how did you get your resolution that high?
More work??
I wonder if the peasants should have trained an extra peasant or two from the town halls before they fell, with the resources they had. They would have run out of resources sooner, but the cannon tower might have gotten more good shots off before the town halls fell. After they fall, they try to shoot the closest units and deal little damage to them.
Imagine what a few well places Blizzards could have done to those packed ogres.
cackled at peasant fight
Стоит ли ожидать Red alert? Ведь есть морские юниты. Я все ещё жду их битву :'(
I already made lots of Red Alert Fight Club videos but I ran out of ideas. Do you mean Red Alert 2? I was hoping they would Remaster it but it doesn't seem to be happening.
When LOTV speedrun 100%?
Next sc2 speedrun will probably start sometime soon. I'm waiting for some hardware upgrades to make sure the video quality is perfect.
@@StuGames We will be looking forward to it)
Darn it, I only got 2/4 right, great vid though, I always enjoy these :D
Great ideas and battles!!
9:30 - And what did we learn from the last skirmish? Taking the Eagles to Mordor doesn't work. But taking the Eagles plus the allied army to Mordor DOES work.
Best one yet!
Man.... Warcraft 2 is chef's kiss.
I can see why polymorph and exorcism as well death coil being so OP in this game to the point it is being nerfed and completely removed the exorcism from the third game.
Dude, you deserve a medal for this lol
I thought the Ogres would've made minced meat of them, not knowing they'd rather prefer lamb.
That Peasant fight went totally different than i expected, i wasn't sure what the money would've been for, maybe somehow bribing Orcs out of fighting (i only played it a couple of times back in the 90s), but that was a valiant effort.
Despite the seemingly obvious setup, i still betted on the Ballistas, and i think they did fine.
Always rooting for Horde, although i should kinda know by now that a video usually ends with a village burned down.
0-4 Score this time around, hah.
Спасибо большое автор, с удовольствием смотрю ваши ролики о WarCraft2, бойцовский клуб.
Alliance had a huge numbers advantage on the last battle.
Well, without that they would have died against that fortified position
Hey i have all this gold and wood what do you think we should do with it?
I have a idea!
The idea:
I wish there was a real life thing, like Mythbusters - can you destroy a townhall by hacking it with an axe?
Those are really nice to watch. Is this series based on the cutscenes from the game that would show the AI fighting each other? Cause I have to say they really look inspired by that.
I still bet on the orcs to win but the peasants certainly had me sweating and reconsidering my vote.
Does the base ever win?
I saw that thumbnail and thought “Why is the GLA invading Azeroth?”
1st fight : 200 mages vs 250 ogres , before watch , i bet 200 mages win , i go watch now , ok i see i won , now next
2 nd fight : i dont bet because i didnt understand whats going on here , hehe , now after watch i got it , maybe interesting if peasants had infinite money
3 rd fight : i bet for ballistas , ok i lose
4 th : i go for humans , btw this fight is just op , thx for it , and i win again
Maybe next time, do Ogres vs Mages with Fog of War on.
Next fight: 300 Goblin Sappers vs 300 Dwarven Demo Squads