The builder cost 3200 gold and used 20000 gold and 10000 wood, while the 256 dead grunts amount to 153600 gold. So it was an economic victory for the builders.
I wonder if the peasants would have won if they had unlimited funding? Or if their repair speed on the towers would have been overwhelmed by the orc damage eventually anyway?🤔
The last fight made me realize that the sound of 30+ elven archers is a hypnotic, almost soothing white-noise. Instead of listening to rain to sleep, I need a rain of arrows.
I never really had fun with RTS games, but watching this teleported me back to the 90s and suddenly made me realize all of the hype around the OG warcraft & starcraft series.
lol at the last one. I was thinking Horde had this in the bag, then it panned over to all of those demo squads; then I was like nope they're screwed. XD
"Can you predict the winner of each fight?" I've never played this game in my life and didn't even know it existed until I saw your video about it a few months ago
You did not know of the existence of Warcraft, one of the most sold out RTS games of all times and for a long time the flagship of Blizzard...? Dawg, I guess Warcraft was not that popular by years, feeling old right now
Awesome!!! Another WC2 Fight Club! The 8 Peasant Tower Defense against the Grunts was TRULY AMUSING! Haha! The Final War Battle was so Epic! Alliance Armies destroying the Horde Base same as like The Last Alliance VS. The Armies of Sauron in Mordor in LOTR!!! Mages VS. Ogres was predictable and expected.
@@sphtpfhorbrains3592 from the start, i knew the wall of sheep would have happened haha. Kinda like the same concept in some certain custom maps in WC3 where you can play Alliance then summon either Archmage or Blood Mage then buy and use a mechanical sheep to serve as a barrier from powerful neutral creeps and kill them all safely even at lvl 1.
@@justinedc1077 But if the ogres were smarter and attacked the sheep more instead of waiting, the result could have been different. Basically since ogres killed sheeps in one strike, the sheep should not have blocked them that much if the IA was smarter.
@@francoisdross5557 there is the factor of AI and/or player skill micro controls... But EXCLUDING those factors, mages will always be the best and most powerful unit in wc2. Polymorph = instant death in wc2. In this battle, its 200 mages vs 250 ogres. So WHAT IF they are in same numbers? What if the mages are also 250, or the ogres are same 200 only? The ogres will lose nonetheless even if they kill the wall of sheeps.
The DK also used their default attack against the ballistae at the end of the fight, I'm not sure if that was intended. Not using it would not have changed the outcome of the battle anyway, just wanted to mention this.
@@jeroti187Kind of but not really, since there was no way the mages could've made a difference otherwise (200 mages vs 250 ogres), so ogres would've won and the battle wouldn't have made sense.
For the peasants/grunts fight, I wonder if the peasants would have done better if they'd built guard towers instead of cannon towers, since guard towers upgrade faster and fire faster, so they would have thinned out the grunts sooner before they cleared the row of town halls. Guard towers are also cheaper, so the peasants would have had more money for repairs at the end. The only advantages the cannon towers have here are the splash damage, and I guess having slightly higher hp, and I don't think that gives them enough benefit in this fight. I could be wrong in this case; I've just long felt that guard towers are vastly superior to cannon towers in this game.
I wasn’t surprised by the mage vs ogre one. I was five or six when I first played this game so I always used cheats. The infinite mana cheat also gave infinite mana to the computer and I remember one level where I had to funnel my army through a choke point to get to the alliance base there was a group of mages who turned everything I sent at them into sheep. 😅
Great video, long time no see, friend, glad to meet again. I see that you improve your ideas, the last siege of the base leads us to some sort of hostorical fights and wars and i think its pretty good.
Those ballistas never stood a chance. Human controlled might be a different story. Also, the demo squads in the last sequence were almost useless, just damage sponges.
based off of the thumbnail saying it was ONLY 8 Peasants I was thinking "...that's not much of a fight" and then the video happened and it was beautiful. were the Peasants player-controlled or was it AI?
@@ellohimeadam3852 Are u talking about AI in 2023 or the one in wc2? cuz u know they didnt update it with openai XD even then, it would need to be trained and told what to do so i wouldnt call that easily.
"I'm gonna keep moving right into the death and decay field-that's a winning tactic!" Balista commander who led 500 balista to thier death...and decay. I wish I could show an old High School friend that last fight since his primary WC2 strategy was "surround base with guard towers." That peasant fight, though.
An experiment proposal. I'd like to see identical armies fight each other, but you organize the waves opposite of one another. One army has least expensive units in the Frontline and most expensive in the back, other army has most expensive up front and least expensive in the back. I wanna know which is better strategy
I can see why polymorph and exorcism as well death coil being so OP in this game to the point it is being nerfed and completely removed the exorcism from the third game.
I thought the Ogres would've made minced meat of them, not knowing they'd rather prefer lamb. That Peasant fight went totally different than i expected, i wasn't sure what the money would've been for, maybe somehow bribing Orcs out of fighting (i only played it a couple of times back in the 90s), but that was a valiant effort. Despite the seemingly obvious setup, i still betted on the Ballistas, and i think they did fine. Always rooting for Horde, although i should kinda know by now that a video usually ends with a village burned down. 0-4 Score this time around, hah.
I wonder if the peasants should have trained an extra peasant or two from the town halls before they fell, with the resources they had. They would have run out of resources sooner, but the cannon tower might have gotten more good shots off before the town halls fell. After they fall, they try to shoot the closest units and deal little damage to them.
9:30 - And what did we learn from the last skirmish? Taking the Eagles to Mordor doesn't work. But taking the Eagles plus the allied army to Mordor DOES work.
1st fight : 200 mages vs 250 ogres , before watch , i bet 200 mages win , i go watch now , ok i see i won , now next 2 nd fight : i dont bet because i didnt understand whats going on here , hehe , now after watch i got it , maybe interesting if peasants had infinite money 3 rd fight : i bet for ballistas , ok i lose 4 th : i go for humans , btw this fight is just op , thx for it , and i win again
![1 Orc vs 7 Computers [4K]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7BWNchvzG1Y/mqdefault.jpg)
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I love how an ogre's first instinct on seeing a sheep is to punch it, completely forgetting that it used to be his buddy.
Foods food in their eyes
If he can't have his friend, *_nobody can._*
It was an odd way to realise that I too am an ogre
@@davidburnett5049and the cannibalism wasn't alien in their kind
Just getting rid of shou tucker.... I mean the mages' abominations.
The grunts won the battle, but the builders won my heart.
the builders shouldn't have gotten that far, the blacksmith costs 100 oil. it wasn't included.
@@Quirriffgood catch
The builder cost 3200 gold and used 20000 gold and 10000 wood, while the 256 dead grunts amount to 153600 gold. So it was an economic victory for the builders.
peasants vs orcs was amazing and so pleasant to watch
agreed, was hoping the peasants would win tho
@@majermike they kinda win a pyric victory for the orcs
Epic
You mean it was "peasant" to watch? 😏
@@MrOrmanley ahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! hahahahahha
That peasant fight was very clever.
pyrrhic victories for the Alliance and the Grunts. I about died when the peasants executed their game plan lol
They just ran out of funding.
Haha, that was awesome indeed
I wonder if the peasants would have won if they had unlimited funding? Or if their repair speed on the towers would have been overwhelmed by the orc damage eventually anyway?🤔
@@milagro795 I think so, they could go with a double-wall of Town Halls then put a pile of Cannon Towers behind them.
That's pros playing in multiplayer
The last fight made me realize that the sound of 30+ elven archers is a hypnotic, almost soothing white-noise. Instead of listening to rain to sleep, I need a rain of arrows.
Then we shall nap in the shade!
@@andrewmartin3671nice reference 😎
Warcraft 1 and 2 were the first RTS games I ever played. Love the SFX from these games so much. Please keep up with the awesome videos!
Warcraft 2 in 2023? I am so down for this! Brings back so many memories of childhood.
Maybe if the peasants had just 2500 more resources it woulda worked out, but I’m honestly unsurprised lol
death and decay sure sounds suspiciously like sizzling bacon
Dude this video was outstanding! The peasants match was inventive and that gigantic battle at the end was incredible. More please!!!
I had the same thoughts
I've been fiending for a new Stu video! Thanks Mr. Pid, and keep up the great work!
Thanks for all of the support, Douglas! A lot more to come :)
Your army vs. base scenarios are always fun to watch.
Those rocks were mvp
At first I said "Orc Base 100%" then I saw the suicide bombers and birds and did a 180
I never really had fun with RTS games, but watching this teleported me back to the 90s and suddenly made me realize all of the hype around the OG warcraft & starcraft series.
lol at the last one. I was thinking Horde had this in the bag, then it panned over to all of those demo squads; then I was like nope they're screwed. XD
The peasants should have won after all that work. Great fights
"Job's dooone!"
"Can you predict the winner of each fight?" I've never played this game in my life and didn't even know it existed until I saw your video about it a few months ago
You did not know of the existence of Warcraft, one of the most sold out RTS games of all times and for a long time the flagship of Blizzard...? Dawg, I guess Warcraft was not that popular by years, feeling old right now
Dude must have been living under a rock. Loved wc1 and wc2
Это игра моего детства. Последующая WC3 полная ерунда
Awesome!!! Another WC2 Fight Club!
The 8 Peasant Tower Defense against the Grunts was TRULY AMUSING! Haha!
The Final War Battle was so Epic! Alliance Armies destroying the Horde Base same as like The Last Alliance VS. The Armies of Sauron in Mordor in LOTR!!!
Mages VS. Ogres was predictable and expected.
Mages vs. ogres was the only time I picked the wrong side in this video.
@@sphtpfhorbrains3592 from the start, i knew the wall of sheep would have happened haha.
Kinda like the same concept in some certain custom maps in WC3 where you can play Alliance then summon either Archmage or Blood Mage then buy and use a mechanical sheep to serve as a barrier from powerful neutral creeps and kill them all safely even at lvl 1.
@@justinedc1077 I never played WC3 or WoW, to be honest.
@@justinedc1077 But if the ogres were smarter and attacked the sheep more instead of waiting, the result could have been different. Basically since ogres killed sheeps in one strike, the sheep should not have blocked them that much if the IA was smarter.
@@francoisdross5557 there is the factor of AI and/or player skill micro controls...
But EXCLUDING those factors, mages will always be the best and most powerful unit in wc2. Polymorph = instant death in wc2.
In this battle, its 200 mages vs 250 ogres. So WHAT IF they are in same numbers? What if the mages are also 250, or the ogres are same 200 only?
The ogres will lose nonetheless even if they kill the wall of sheeps.
The DK also used their default attack against the ballistae at the end of the fight, I'm not sure if that was intended. Not using it would not have changed the outcome of the battle anyway, just wanted to mention this.
It probably spent all its mana earlier in the fight
The mages also attacked after using polymorph so it was fair play
@@jeroti187Kind of but not really, since there was no way the mages could've made a difference otherwise (200 mages vs 250 ogres), so ogres would've won and the battle wouldn't have made sense.
the reason THE HORDE lost that last fight was fkn Gul'dan ruined everything!
I remember back in the day i used to play this game every day trying to finish its unimaginable hard campaigns , good times..
Those quirky fights were quite enjoyable to watch. Thanks for making these, Stu!
For the Ogre vs Mage fight, I would think Fireballs would have worked.
I suppose if Peasants didn't ran out of resources, they might have won. 🤔🤔🤔
i cant believe that something like this can be a content and i watched that till the end lol
Given enough time and resources, a Peasant (or peon) can overcome any obstacle. Truly the most dangerous soldier of second great war.
That was hilarious!!! I forgot that the peasants could barricade themselves. For a while there, I thought they might even win!
One more Peasant and maybe 1000 Gold + 500 Wood more, They would win.
0:19 i love how the ogree quote fits here perfectly like a sock.
I was so sad about how it turned out for the peasants, but they put up a good fight!
For the peasants/grunts fight, I wonder if the peasants would have done better if they'd built guard towers instead of cannon towers, since guard towers upgrade faster and fire faster, so they would have thinned out the grunts sooner before they cleared the row of town halls. Guard towers are also cheaper, so the peasants would have had more money for repairs at the end. The only advantages the cannon towers have here are the splash damage, and I guess having slightly higher hp, and I don't think that gives them enough benefit in this fight.
I could be wrong in this case; I've just long felt that guard towers are vastly superior to cannon towers in this game.
I wasn’t surprised by the mage vs ogre one. I was five or six when I first played this game so I always used cheats. The infinite mana cheat also gave infinite mana to the computer and I remember one level where I had to funnel my army through a choke point to get to the alliance base there was a group of mages who turned everything I sent at them into sheep. 😅
Those peasants would clearly be the type to have epic songs written about their defeat.
The ballistas vs DKs one is the best, the wave of explosions is so cool
Ballistas vs. Donkey Kongs
@@gdtyra i would pay to see that
the peasants vs grunts reminds me of one of the premade maps that is literally a peasant surrounded by an orc army.
Hell just discovered this diamond series please do more warcraft 2 fight club!!! BIG TIME HUGE LOVE
Great video as always
Wow seeing Warcraft II again makes me so happy and nostalgic
Peasants vs grunt was a tactical genius battle and alliance vs horde was pure menace..
cackled at peasant fight
Predictions
Fight 1: Mages
Fight 2: grunts
Fight 3: Death knights
Fight 4: Alliance
very nice
that was 32 orcs per peasant
The death night/balista one was super satisfying to watch!
The peasants vs orcs is a textbook example of a war of attrition.
oh my god, someone else who still cares about warcraft 2.. i thought it vanished from everyones memory in the late 90s.
Great video, long time no see, friend, glad to meet again. I see that you improve your ideas, the last siege of the base leads us to some sort of hostorical fights and wars and i think its pretty good.
Alliance had a huge numbers advantage on the last battle.
Well, without that they would have died against that fortified position
This is weirder than my crazy dreams... And that's a lot to top.
Accurate summary of the first half of the second war
Battle's not over and several of the Alliance soldiers peel off to slaughter the peons.
Run, run speedrun.
Those ballistas never stood a chance. Human controlled might be a different story. Also, the demo squads in the last sequence were almost useless, just damage sponges.
Still waiting for the day when I can predict the winner of each fight😔
It seems like a fun game to play with friends and make small bets on.
@@sphtpfhorbrains3592 Yes indeed, only problem is that I don't have friends
@@kBandikdon't worry, soon AI can be you friend. Old ways is too unreliable.
@@Moon_Cricket_Stinks ChatGPT my beloved🥰
these fights are utterly ridiculous and I love it
based off of the thumbnail saying it was ONLY 8 Peasants I was thinking "...that's not much of a fight" and then the video happened and it was beautiful.
were the Peasants player-controlled or was it AI?
I controlled the peasants. 😎
AI isnt that advanced, come on.
@@lolmao500 ummm.. yes it is. AI could easily do this LOL
@@ellohimeadam3852 Are u talking about AI in 2023 or the one in wc2? cuz u know they didnt update it with openai XD even then, it would need to be trained and told what to do so i wouldnt call that easily.
@@Squibie I mean AI in general. It would take 3 days or less to train this.
"I'm gonna keep moving right into the death and decay field-that's a winning tactic!" Balista commander who led 500 balista to thier death...and decay.
I wish I could show an old High School friend that last fight since his primary WC2 strategy was "surround base with guard towers."
That peasant fight, though.
Imagine what a few well places Blizzards could have done to those packed ogres.
Idk if you realize how crazy 53k views/ 2 weeks for such an old game is. Congratz !
Amazing video, but you already know about this.
An experiment proposal. I'd like to see identical armies fight each other, but you organize the waves opposite of one another. One army has least expensive units in the Frontline and most expensive in the back, other army has most expensive up front and least expensive in the back. I wanna know which is better strategy
I still bet on the orcs to win but the peasants certainly had me sweating and reconsidering my vote.
I can see why polymorph and exorcism as well death coil being so OP in this game to the point it is being nerfed and completely removed the exorcism from the third game.
I thought the Ogres would've made minced meat of them, not knowing they'd rather prefer lamb.
That Peasant fight went totally different than i expected, i wasn't sure what the money would've been for, maybe somehow bribing Orcs out of fighting (i only played it a couple of times back in the 90s), but that was a valiant effort.
Despite the seemingly obvious setup, i still betted on the Ballistas, and i think they did fine.
Always rooting for Horde, although i should kinda know by now that a video usually ends with a village burned down.
0-4 Score this time around, hah.
I wonder if the peasants should have trained an extra peasant or two from the town halls before they fell, with the resources they had. They would have run out of resources sooner, but the cannon tower might have gotten more good shots off before the town halls fell. After they fall, they try to shoot the closest units and deal little damage to them.
another great vid mate loved it cant wait for the next one
I wish there was a real life thing, like Mythbusters - can you destroy a townhall by hacking it with an axe?
Man.... Warcraft 2 is chef's kiss.
This is not Warcraft 2. This is Warcraft 2000 nuclear epidemic. I love this game.
Wow! The death knight vs ballista battle was close!!!
Impressive micro on those ballistas
The sheep were bodyblocking the ogres so they had trouble getting into melee range.
Next fight: 300 Goblin Sappers vs 300 Dwarven Demo Squads
I saw that thumbnail and thought “Why is the GLA invading Azeroth?”
I wonder if the peasants would have had better chances if they backed away into a corner.
9:30 - And what did we learn from the last skirmish? Taking the Eagles to Mordor doesn't work. But taking the Eagles plus the allied army to Mordor DOES work.
1st fight : 200 mages vs 250 ogres , before watch , i bet 200 mages win , i go watch now , ok i see i won , now next
2 nd fight : i dont bet because i didnt understand whats going on here , hehe , now after watch i got it , maybe interesting if peasants had infinite money
3 rd fight : i bet for ballistas , ok i lose
4 th : i go for humans , btw this fight is just op , thx for it , and i win again
Great ideas and battles!!
Things we did while waiting for dial up to connect.
When LOTV speedrun 100%?
Next sc2 speedrun will probably start sometime soon. I'm waiting for some hardware upgrades to make sure the video quality is perfect.
@@StuGames We will be looking forward to it)
@2:24
I guess that Orc was the one who said this would be a breeze.
Darn it, I only got 2/4 right, great vid though, I always enjoy these :D
Man, I was so pulling for the peasants.
Ogres are my favorite unit from the horde
Too bad in warcraft 3 they were swapped out for the tauren
Well that music is taking me back...
Спасибо большое автор, с удовольствием смотрю ваши ролики о WarCraft2, бойцовский клуб.
Dude, you deserve a medal for this lol
Well, some sheep from the first match finally got relatively lucky :)
Watching this in 2x is so satisfying
i think if pesant would build in the corner they would have better outcome
It ain't much, but it's honest work.
How do you make those armies scenarios? They are very nice and detailed, not just some buildings and units slapped together.
i love the voice channel of this game :)
love this vid bud do warcraft 3 next
no sheep where harmed in this video
Stu, I'd like to see you play ranked matches! You're very good at RTS!
Best one yet!
when 2 peasants could decide the outcome of the battle
every unit used at best, i like it
Wow I thought the ballistas had it what a close battle
Valiant effort from the peasants!
A last alliance of men and dwarves