To be fair, there is a difference between a solid wall behind it and a few feet of space with some bins on the floor, although if more large stuff gets crammed in there (which it probably will) that could really restrict airflow and become a problem.
A boss I had in IT said, “The less you require a human to remember, the less errors you’ll get from him.” ETN blocking off access to the busbars without implying to check on them in an instruction sheet for the installer to SEE, is just bad design.
If those bus bars needed tightening before power-on, then there should of been a sticker/shield over the input connectors mentioning that. Once the input wiring is installed you'd have a hard time getting to the busbars.
@@ionstorm66 Even if someone opens it up I'm sure they will say something like only a qualified technician is allowed to open that under warranty, blah blah.
Is it possible that the fire was hot enough to dislodge the connectors? I have no idea how hot that fire got, or what the connectors were made of, but is it possible that both parties are wrong about the cause?
@Saybro WT only as devils advocate not unthreaded but cracked. I have had so many old, stressed, ir corroded nuts split ir dissolve and the fire could do similar (though I may have misunderstood the arcing breakdown). But if that happened there still should be the blackened debris at the bottom. Still suspect the supplier's fault.
2017 - OUR SERVER ROOM IS ON FIRE OMFG (APRIL FOOLS) 2020 (with calm relaxing classical music) - Let us have a chatter about this combustion that had happened in our facilities over this cup of tea
That’s Eaton trying to cover their ass. As a Union Electrician I can tell you with utmost certainty that Brian is 100% correct. We terminate building circuit power into equipment at the point the equipment manufacturer provides. We are not to “mess” with buss bars unless lugs are attached to them for supply termination. I would look into the installation literature and see what it says about install procedures.
As not an electrician and a man commenting on a 3 year old video, I can tell you I 100% agree. It's egregious they even attempted to blame that on someone else, much less "air flow" haha. What a trash company.
@@batRASHO There's also no cardboard or other easily combustible materials. Linus didn't do anything inherently wrong, and I am almost certain he was making a point, but it's entertaining none-the-less.
Massive respect to Brian for not losing his cool when the "installer fault" thing came up. I work tech mainly, not installation, but I've been accused of some things that were in no way related to me. It's a terrible feeling, and to be perfectly honest, I've lost my cool on one or two on company reps when they were blatantly trying to weasel out of their responsibilities. Excuses are cheap and easy to come by when things go wrong. If there's one thing I hate, it's a coward. Brian handled it as a true professional, and with a composure that I envy. As long as the problem gets solved, I'm happy, but it really rubs me the wrong way that they played it off like it was uncle jimbo with a hacksaw, instead of a trained professional who knows his stuff.
what i hate most in these cases is when they use more time and resources to find someone to blame it on instead of thinking about a solution. First comes the fix then we can talk about who to blame.
From what they say about their deal with eaton in this vid, I wouldn't be surprised if that was something eaton required to be in the video, seeing as they said that they made the vid in part to show how to do it correctly as part of their deal. I wouldn't be surprised if off camera linus was quite a bit more on brian's side.
I was once hired as an hardware/firmware R&D engineer, within a company that somehow ended up outsourcing all R&D... All technical decisions where internally made by tech illiterate bozos, resulting in an endless stream of (often the same) stupid mistakes. It was always form over function, making maintenance a cesspool to swim through. The external firms would blame everything that went wrong with their garbage equipment on our internal technical personnel, them knowing that our tech-inept management would actually believe their excuses. I couldn't sleep in the end, got another job after only 1.6 years. Companies coming up with stupid excuses, as shown in this video, get me all frustrated again.
@@Yo-ji4ud I wouldn't be surprised if Eaton wasn't gonna cover any of this until they (Linus and Brian) discovered this fault and were like "yo, wtf is this about? That's on you."
do you need help with fire protection? I recommend installing FM-200 or NOVEC 1230 Fire suppression system in your server room, it will help stoping the fire before losing your equipment specially if you have critical equipment that are expensive or that your work flow critically depends on. You also should do fire risk assessment and know what are the hazards that your place have and what is the most effective way to protect your employees and Equipment. BTW you could get returns on your insurance policy and Taxs.
its really no need for what linus has. i think that was a human mistake and its better like he said in the video to make a control every 6 months or every year
Good recommendation but a VESDA smoke detection system along with proper electrical maintenance should suit his application. FM200 may be expensive, and it seems as though the place is cramped enough already to worry about piping and cylinder installation.
I love Linus and it's awesome how he built up his company, but having this as a "server room" is just begging for a catastrophe to happen. Putting 100's of thousands in equipment into a basically hole in a wall, I just can't understand. I've seen a mainframe room and how the whole building was built around it, taking into consideration every major requirement (climatisation, battery backup, huge generator backup, fire suppression system, noise isolation etc). More and more companies couldn't even exist if something happened to their IT infrastructure, and still they cheap out on making it more reliable/robust.
Just need more likes, subscriptions and people purchasing merch so they can take over the entire building, finally dedicate a whole bay for their server 😁
Eaton was so convinced Linus would f*** it up again they sent him a free climate monitor at their loss because they figured it would be a long term cost savings 🤣
Well he already paid 2k for the warranty, so they shouldn't care much.
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@@rolerroleris533 When they have him on the hook for the warranty that is when they should care because they get payed and if it doesn't fail they don't have to repair it.
The man who professionally installed my equipment said I needed space back here (For airflow). I can't wait to put things here and make it not have any clearance.
I mean, having airflow doesn't mean having nothing in that space. It simply means it needs physical space to be able to push air around.As long as they don't start taking the space back there for granted and store large items, having a few part bins on the floor won't affect air flow much.
well since its magnetic he could always get those magnetic locks with a touch pad or other form of security protection that way all he has to do is put the security code in and it would unlock the panels.
@@handlmycck just yesterday near my house a big metal shed full of plastic for recycling caught fire. It was declared a major incident and had over 20 fire crews on it and it was still out of control. Plastic does not slow down fire lol, even fire retardant stuff is only self extinguishing after so many seconds. It'll burn for that time though.
Just for your reference it is Eaton. Also they did not show the inspection but they did mention in the video that the Eaton technician had come out and done the inspection before they started hooking everything up from the server rack.
I like how the server room door has a lock on it ( I recall from previous episodes and for good reason), Yet the wall is completely removable, without keys.
Looking at it I doubt there's room to get past the UPS and access the servers from the back of the room... Besides if anyone *really* wants access, that's just a plasterboard wall, magnetic doors or not you could be in there in a few minutes with your bare hands.
Actually, just while I'm on physical security, the main door to the server room has : 1. A big vent in the bottom. 2. Hinges on the outside. The lock is there only to keep honest people out.
I was a Maintenance supervisor at a Nestle plant. We would have a company come in every year to check the connections in every panel of our MCC rooms. They used a thermal camera and you could see the loose fasteners. They would become loose because of repeated thermal expansion and cooling over the years.
Not to mention most of these companies use cheap zink bolts, locks, and nuts. Also good for them to check the bus bar because it oxidizes over time. Especially copper.
@@IndianaTony TLDR: I know too much about pallets that's weird, but I work at home depot and we get weird pallets from time to time as well, the pallet refurbishers sometimes make Frankenstein pallets, my favorite is when the take the parts of 2 skinny (euro) pallets a make it so that every other board goes to the middle support from a different side instead of every board just going straight across, that and the pallets that are clearly made from the parts of CHEP brand pallets(also called blue pallets, or the broad term is 4 way entry) because they are painted blue, CHEP does their own refrubishing and only rents pallets so once the are no longer being use they are supposed to go back, and not doing so is theft, so that likely happened somewhere else and the pallet was just shipped around
I mean, from what I see, you can only really access the UPS from the magnetic doors. And that UPS is *SO* heavy, especially with all the batteries and power units on. Would you expect someone to try and steal that? Plus it is not like the black market for $2000 batteries is very big. No one would buy a used Eaton battery from a random guy that does not have a receipt. In comparison, some of the servers in the front are a lot more valuable and a lot lighter. It is also a lot easier to sell standard server hardware than specialized battery equipment. And I guess when Linus moved to that office, he was scared that someone may try to do funny business to his servers, but he realized that no one even tried to enter his building since 2015 so he does not care anymore.
Companies are always looking for feedback... With no feedback they can not fix anything. Companies who do nothing on feedback fails. SO Eaton hearing that comment will now think, Oh ... I guess that was a bad design on our part... Let us make it better for the customer for the next device.
Linus is genuinely one of the most reasonable people I've watched online. When he mediated both sides there and could have gotten angry at either side instead, as the customer... Idk man he's just a class guy even if he wears socks and sandals and then drops heavy things on them, we all have our flaws
So as someone who installs these Eaton UPS'es i can confirm there is always an Eaton engineer present. So how come you didnt get the engineer on the first install? Also as an electrician. This was totally Eatons fault! :D
@@kalebbruwer could have been a good chance for them to save face (get it?) if the guy was good on camera... but that's always a risky move unless its someone who's used to being on screen :)
@@FergyA Not to mention an immovable object(UPS) probably blocking up the entire passage. Thats not something that you can move in a hurry without a lot of swearing and huffing. And probably destroying something along the way.
So you’re telling me this guy has a big bulky iron door securing the server room but a backdoor installed that can be opened by simply pulling out some wooden pieces? Sounds great!
There is chance backdoor are locked from inside, so first you need to open front door, unlock backdoor from inside of the room and then you can open it from outside. The same way as second door in wardrobe are locked. Simple mechanism, but you need to get inside first.
Every enterprise I've worked for had the server room door as one of the most secure in the building. Obvious because all the valuable data is behind that door.
Eaton: "You must have clearance behind the unit" Linus: Makes room, "WOW, LOOK AT ALL THIS ROOM" plans to fill it back up again with combustible plastic bins.
@@xavier6foot8 technically 'to combust' means to be consumed by fire. while you're correct that plastic melts rather than burns (because it's a product of petroleum), it technically still combusts.
Well he's just gonna use them for cables, I don't think he meant it was going to be filled with bins rather the bins probably wouldn't take much space at all.
Omg yes lol. I died. Also the way they would have to mount the 2or it wouldnt lift the unit by 4 inches. It would only lift it by 2. If we are being technical it would lift it by 1.5 inches
@@WyattWinters yeah it would have. Also in any type of construction, carpentry, furniture making etc job no one says 2x4's for scrap pieces of board. Idk what the other guy means. It's a good thing he used the 4x4. It was probably a little safer
"I ordered the wrong air conditioner twice." Am I crazy i recall linus having like a huge segment on Wan show or something about how he was doing so much research into air con units.
This video killed me -Planning to store stuff behind the UPS in the clearance area -Not wearing PPE and even worse, open toes shoes when moving equipment -Literal backdoor to the server room without any noteable locks or security measures.
3:15 - Linus: "We had to buy the warranty and service plan as well. I don't know. Maybe they don't trust us" Uhhh, Linus? Do you think they watch yoru videos?
the ups actually failed around a year ago, there is a wan show clip somewhere in which they discuss it. I think Linus was only using squids to keep things running until the replacement ups arrived. he did say it had him on edge not having the redundancy of a battery backup
It was worse a few years ago, he had so many power strips and squids there were multiple times where he accidentally shut down a server with his foot and claimed it had just "crashed"
I use to works as a service engineer for industrial equipment and from my experience the fact that they changed the way the busbars were attached means there was a problem with that. It may not be a fire, but rest assured that Eaton engineers have reported the problem more than once after regularly servicing other customers ’products. That doesn’t change the fact that LMG skipped regular checkups (in another hand regular maintenance every 6 months on fixed equipment with almost no moving parts, seams a bit like a rippoff, but that’s a different story), but at least email customers without a service plan with a warning would be nice. Especially if you know that people buy your expensive product to keep it close to usually much more expensive equipment and valuable data and yours product can start a fire. There are many ways to wrap a story without explicit saying that your company screwed up and even get customers to pay something you should fix for free avoiding possible problems. They just need to ask Apple to help them with that. Since Linus agree to give them more money instead of just sue them maybe they are already :D
Yeah they definitely saw a big failure point on that and changed accordingly, you ain't changing a good design after all. In my opinion, 6 month maintenance interval for a high power device, connected to mains, designed to literally be a backup device, and dealing with dangerous chemistry in big quantities, I would agree it's right on time if not quite lax if they aren't forcing their own technicians to install it and verify the install conditions right away (that last part I think they are, right? Forgot if they mentioned on the video).
@@tnuarb loose connections have resistance. It's *extremely* common for bad connections to do this. Infact, if I suspect a bad connection (often shows up as voltage drop when trying to pull large currents), I immediately look for connections. Often the insulation on the wire right next to the connection will melt first and be visible.
@@Kalvinjj exactly. Maintenance might be a required task, but if its needed to prevent fire, then they should provide you with at minimum a procedure. Requiring that their techs do it, and that you keep a subscription is not only wrong, but technically illegal (in the states). Now... Is there anything a small business or individual can do about it? Not unless you want to fight about it in court
Hi Linus, im an old it Infrastructure guy and i would recommend you to seperate the UPS from the IT Rack. its enough to build a fire blocking barrier with a "rigips" wall of 2 layers.
Jeffery Cole I’ve seen a few pairs that get worn to the point the steel is showing 🤷♂️ shouldn’t really happen being an electrician there’s no much where wear on them but it can happen. So technically the guy above is correct although if your vigilant and change your shoes it’s up to you but now a days there are better options.
"🔥🔥🔥 our server room caught fire 🔥🔥🔥" (fiery thumbnail) - turns out just the fucking UPS unit caught fire. I guess if I dropped a cigarette on the floor and burned a hole in my carpet I can say my building caught fire. Linus and his clickbait titles back at it.
5:14 Not saying this is what happened, but "you must pay us to send an technician to diffuse the time bomb we left in your new UPS" sounds like a bit of a racket. In "fairness" (?) to Eaton, 4:38
I would not be surprised if these days, these products are designed in such a way to NEED support contracts and inspections and all kinds of service add-ons to keep the money train going. I don't mean that they'll burn down the place but enough stuff that it eventually does need you to pay up again.
@@CheapSushi Once you enter into this level of equipment that is expected. The UPS is only supposed to last about 6 years in the enterprise and then be fully replaced. Also at this level it is expected to have all equipment monitored 24/7 for both environmental and power. Then fully inspected by a certified tech (most companies have their own or contract them) once a year.
@@Dragonsrage012 That's understandable given that the end users want to avoid data and productivity loss, and the UPS provider wants to minimize any liability in the event of a failure, while maintaining a strong reliability record. Still tho, no nuts?
@@Dragonsrage012 I completely agree that Linus botched the maintenance part......' But that still doesn't explain the literally time bomb as design choice. That shit is so obvious it is difficult to see how there is a natural reason to ...... just design the way it is, and expect technician to fix it manually during installation.
@@IkLms11 but there are ways of designing it to require your own technicians that aren't a silent fire hazard. If it won't turn on unless their own tech does whatever needs to be done internaly, fine/whatever. If it appears to be working fine from the exterior outputs area all in spec, while likely to set on fire at some random time in the future... how is that okay? Require your own tech to make it work, not correct the silent fire hazard.
I love Linus but some of the server room stuff makes me cringe with my being a sysadmin and running our datacenter. It'd be nice to see some more best practices applied in that area
Aceoyame I'm sure that they do this at this point for comedic value.. they probably make more money from posting fail videos and seeing all the views I mean sure the tech could assume that it should have been done this way and that way from the factory, but if you've never done something before.. as a professional read the manual. always read the manual.. if you're at home and it's whatever sure try doing it without the manual. but not professionally..
Was totally thinking the same; as IT engineer; holy crap, seeing this got me so mad ahah; how the f**k did this server room is not on fire every week !
Hey, mind if I ask if I should take any special precautions with an APC smart UPS 1000 I keep in my bedroom to power 2 QNAP NAS? Seeing this video got me slightly worried.
@@LemonRush7777 should be fine as long as it's able to exhaust it's heat properly and doesn't have any liquid sources or anything particularly flamable nearby
Any loose connections will cause an arching across two points. Arching turns into severe heat build up and eventually cause a fire! When you turn on lights at home, do you ever notice a crackling noise or a noise like a welder doing arc welding. If you do, that is an indication of arching within the light switch as the contacts come close but before they have made a solid connection. If you have old light switches that do that, you may wish to consider "switching" them out for new ones!
@@lisab3396 < she's correct. Switches will ALWAYS cause arcing and you want to minimize this by switching as FAST as possible so the arc exists for as short a timeframe as possible. This is why a switch that 'snaps' very fast (and audibly) is much better than a 'smooth' switch. I remember as a kid I liked to hover lightswitches right at the arcing point because it made a 'nice' sizzling sound and being annoyed when I encountered a light switch that couldn't do this because it would snap between full ON and full OFF and couldn't hover.. Annoying for a kid, but GREAT for longevity and safety of the switch! The reason it heats up because of this arcing is because air is a bad conductor so power is expended to 'burn' the air and turn it into plasma, an endothermic reaction. It's the plasma that 'lights' up and that you visibly see, NOT the electricity that flows through it!
@@ayporos technology connections made a video on this. it's also not just how fast you switch the switch, it's also the inductance of the load. higher inductance fights harder to keep the current flowing once it's flowing, so the voltage will spike more and you'll get larger arcs. lastly, not all switches arc. mercury switches don't. I've got a few of those.
As a technician myself, even if a “certified tech” installs anything at my work or house I still check everything. Not saying I am any better than the next guy but that’s how I believe a technician should think at every job. Treat every job like if it was your own house or business. This seems more like it was pulling more amps than it should and over time burned up everything. Probably another issue elsewhere.. just my two cents.
personally, anything that can burn down your building should be checked twice by 2 different qualified technicians the again after switching on to make sure it's working properly CYA only fools and amateurs think there perfect and know everything they tend to burn down their buildings too.
It's also a good thing because two guys usually think in 2 different ways, so it's easier to figure out some mistakes or those terrible "It ha always worked for me"
Eaton technician: "You need some space behind the UPS for heat dispersion" Linus: "Sweet! A storage room to fill with stuff!" Eaton technician: "......"
Eaton could have changed the design because they were seeing this happen (or in response to LTT's experience) because they wanted to make it more fool proof.
@@emu071981 You can not be that dumb can you? Stuff like this does not get changed unless its a real problem. That and the fact they seam to blame everyone else for it as well.
I’ve been electrician for about nine years now and I could tell you that they blamed the fire on the insulation because of the limited breathing room And the installer because that was the easiest escape though they took one look at it and knew they could get away with that I promise you no electrician would ever think to themselves I’m going to tear this apart just to make sure they tightened all the factory connections together But I do suggest buying a small Torque wrench and Tighten everything down to spec torque at least once a year because the real problem was there was no annual inspection but there is an annual inspection even if the manufacturer forgot the nuts it would’ve been caught the first inspection
I thought the same thing when I watched. You'd think if he was screwing up as bad as they said then they would've told Linus before this. But then they couldn't make any money off him buying a new unit :/
Jason R I’ve also had bad experiences with large UPSs like this. I’m an electrician who works in an entertainment venue with a large media and show control server array. In 2018 we had a technician install a UPS shockingly similar to this, and it did not work after it was installed “correctly”. Took almost 6 months of arguing with the manufacturer and the installer before they fixed our problem. Our issue was not with the the unit catching fire, but with faulty control hardware, specifically a manufacturing defect with capacitors on one of the main control boards.
@@states1996 After working in IT for a long time when I go on vacations I unhook my UPS at home because I'm super paranoid about it lighting on fire. I do not trust UPS'. Also organizations don't realize UPS equipment have expiration dates on them for a reason.
@@dasupalouie I have a small UPS in my bedroom. An APC Smart UPS 1000. Should I be worried? And by unhooking you mean removing the battery connection and not just unplugging it from the wall, right?
Linus put locks on your magnetic doors. Having an unlocked back door to your server room that the whole world now knows about defeats the purpose of having a lock on the main server room door.
I love the new magnetic plates you had there... especially in combination with the security gate on the front door... So then I presume those are high security magnets? ;)
Almost all consumer UPS only run for a few minutes under load. mine says 600mins without load which I think is BS. They are designed to keep the electronics on them safe and running without data loss or damage. When power goes out on my UPS, the instructions literally say to shut off my PC if I can't get power back. With servers that's a little harder.
@@ryzech4168 Exactly, but it takes longer on a server due to workflow, and shutting down a larger set of systems. That's why server-grade UPS is so large in capacity as compared to single-phase wall outlet UPS.
YEAH Brian the Electrician is one of my favorite characters in the Linus Cinematic Universe
This is my first time seeing Brian the Electrician but I'll thumbs up for calling this the LCU.
Electro?
Magicwinguy 200ty like
Brian the hvac man
Amazing lol
"We need more clearance behind the UPS so we took out the wall which is where I plan to cram it full of loose crap."
From the fire and into the flames
An actual heart?
It was Colton's office anyways
@@msinfo32 its artificial.
Gotta keep the emergency hard drives warm so they're ready to use at a moments notice.
Eaton: "The UPS needs more room to breathe"
Linus: "Oh look at all this room for me to store stuff!"
I was thinking exactly this lol
To be fair, there is a difference between a solid wall behind it and a few feet of space with some bins on the floor, although if more large stuff gets crammed in there (which it probably will) that could really restrict airflow and become a problem.
@@Penguin_Spy chill
@@ericbower2256 ghhhg
@@ericbower2256 you should chill
A boss I had in IT said, “The less you require a human to remember, the less errors you’ll get from him.” ETN blocking off access to the busbars without implying to check on them in an instruction sheet for the installer to SEE, is just bad design.
If those bus bars needed tightening before power-on, then there should of been a sticker/shield over the input connectors mentioning that. Once the input wiring is installed you'd have a hard time getting to the busbars.
@@ionstorm66 Even if someone opens it up I'm sure they will say something like only a qualified technician is allowed to open that under warranty, blah blah.
Is it possible that the fire was hot enough to dislodge the connectors? I have no idea how hot that fire got, or what the connectors were made of, but is it possible that both parties are wrong about the cause?
@@Hexen_Wulf Unless it literally got hot enough to melt them away I don't see how a fire is gonna unthread something.
@Saybro WT only as devils advocate not unthreaded but cracked. I have had so many old, stressed, ir corroded nuts split ir dissolve and the fire could do similar (though I may have misunderstood the arcing breakdown).
But if that happened there still should be the blackened debris at the bottom. Still suspect the supplier's fault.
2017 - OUR SERVER ROOM IS ON FIRE OMFG (APRIL FOOLS)
2020 (with calm relaxing classical music) - Let us have a chatter about this combustion that had happened in our facilities over this cup of tea
They're probably like:
"meh, we have enough money to fix it."
I believe this actually happened back in 2019 and they explained it in a different video already
Everything is fine. (Take sip of tea)
Well they were not so chill in the wan show when that happend, they had months to think over it :D
hm
That’s Eaton trying to cover their ass. As a Union Electrician I can tell you with utmost certainty that Brian is 100% correct. We terminate building circuit power into equipment at the point the equipment manufacturer provides. We are not to “mess” with buss bars unless lugs are attached to them for supply termination. I would look into the installation literature and see what it says about install procedures.
As not an electrician and a man commenting on a 3 year old video, I can tell you I 100% agree. It's egregious they even attempted to blame that on someone else, much less "air flow" haha. What a trash company.
Eaton:
"You need more clearence behind the unit."
Linus:
"Great, I needed a place to stack a bunch of bins!"
I really thought linus was smarter than this honestly.
thankgod it wasnt just me lol linus will be linus 🤣🤣🤣
Maybe the new generation dosen't need the extra space behind
It needs only like a foot to breathe. It won't be doing the Moonwalk...
@@batRASHO There's also no cardboard or other easily combustible materials. Linus didn't do anything inherently wrong, and I am almost certain he was making a point, but it's entertaining none-the-less.
Massive respect to Brian for not losing his cool when the "installer fault" thing came up. I work tech mainly, not installation, but I've been accused of some things that were in no way related to me. It's a terrible feeling, and to be perfectly honest, I've lost my cool on one or two on company reps when they were blatantly trying to weasel out of their responsibilities. Excuses are cheap and easy to come by when things go wrong. If there's one thing I hate, it's a coward.
Brian handled it as a true professional, and with a composure that I envy. As long as the problem gets solved, I'm happy, but it really rubs me the wrong way that they played it off like it was uncle jimbo with a hacksaw, instead of a trained professional who knows his stuff.
what i hate most in these cases is when they use more time and resources to find someone to blame it on instead of thinking about a solution. First comes the fix then we can talk about who to blame.
From what they say about their deal with eaton in this vid, I wouldn't be surprised if that was something eaton required to be in the video, seeing as they said that they made the vid in part to show how to do it correctly as part of their deal. I wouldn't be surprised if off camera linus was quite a bit more on brian's side.
I was once hired as an hardware/firmware R&D engineer, within a company that somehow ended up outsourcing all R&D...
All technical decisions where internally made by tech illiterate bozos, resulting in an endless stream of (often the same) stupid mistakes. It was always form over function, making maintenance a cesspool to swim through. The external firms would blame everything that went wrong with their garbage equipment on our internal technical personnel, them knowing that our tech-inept management would actually believe their excuses. I couldn't sleep in the end, got another job after only 1.6 years.
Companies coming up with stupid excuses, as shown in this video, get me all frustrated again.
@@Yo-ji4ud I wouldn't be surprised if Eaton wasn't gonna cover any of this until they (Linus and Brian) discovered this fault and were like "yo, wtf is this about? That's on you."
I was accused of taking down the whole corporate network when i was not even working. Not the only time. I left shortly after.
Eaton: "The ups needs more clearance behind it"
REMOVES PART OF THE WALL
Linus: "ooooooooh that gives me more space for my crap"
RIGHT lmao
I doubt what he put there is actually a problem, but it did sound quite dumb.
2017: "April fools: server room catches fire"
2020: "server room actually catches fire"
Am I alone to see a trend...
So by 2023 Linus will be exposed for the inept boss he truly is?
@@zeldatrek Let's hope this one ain't true and that it's not predicting the future
@@christobacon1 Yes
@@zeldatrek shush dont reveal the secret's
More proof that Linus Tech Tips will be owned by Nvidia
do you need help with fire protection?
I recommend installing FM-200 or NOVEC 1230 Fire suppression system in your server room, it will help stoping the fire before losing your equipment specially if you have critical equipment that are expensive or that your work flow critically depends on.
You also should do fire risk assessment and know what are the hazards that your place have and what is the most effective way to protect your employees and Equipment.
BTW you could get returns on your insurance policy and Taxs.
People, please Like this comment so we can finally stop worrying about good ol' Linus and the crew...
its really no need for what linus has. i think that was a human mistake and its better like he said in the video to make a control every 6 months or every year
Good recommendation but a VESDA smoke detection system along with proper electrical maintenance should suit his application. FM200 may be expensive, and it seems as though the place is cramped enough already to worry about piping and cylinder installation.
I love Linus and it's awesome how he built up his company, but having this as a "server room" is just begging for a catastrophe to happen. Putting 100's of thousands in equipment into a basically hole in a wall, I just can't understand. I've seen a mainframe room and how the whole building was built around it, taking into consideration every major requirement (climatisation, battery backup, huge generator backup, fire suppression system, noise isolation etc). More and more companies couldn't even exist if something happened to their IT infrastructure, and still they cheap out on making it more reliable/robust.
Just need more likes, subscriptions and people purchasing merch so they can take over the entire building, finally dedicate a whole bay for their server 😁
Funny how Eaton blamed installer failure but I have heard of those older units causing fires in the exact way LTTs did lol
I love how Bryan the Electrician is now a staple recurring character in the Linus Tech Tips anime.
the linus cinematic universe
I love how aggressively Canadian he is.
Not surprising If you're not a pleb and read the manga.
It's always heartwarming when an EU character that fans love gets added to the mainline canon.
Eaton was so convinced Linus would f*** it up again they sent him a free climate monitor at their loss because they figured it would be a long term cost savings 🤣
I'm sure they're eating a huge loss on a part they probably sell for $1000 but actually cost like $15.
Well he already paid 2k for the warranty, so they shouldn't care much.
@@rolerroleris533 When they have him on the hook for the warranty that is when they should care because they get payed and if it doesn't fail they don't have to repair it.
@ warranty in my country for everything is a lie..
@@obadanw here it really comes down to the company honoring it
The man who professionally installed my equipment said I needed space back here (For airflow). I can't wait to put things here and make it not have any clearance.
lol
I mean, having airflow doesn't mean having nothing in that space. It simply means it needs physical space to be able to push air around.As long as they don't start taking the space back there for granted and store large items, having a few part bins on the floor won't affect air flow much.
in other word.. linus just don't know shit about eletricnoic... he treat it like there are space so just throw it in there..
@@campkira in other words you don't know shit about electronics since it's an aerodynamic mistake not electrical
@@campkira His channel is literally called Linus TECH Tips. I think he knows at least a little bit about electronics.
Brian burns Linus like they have been friends for life
everythning for contant..
No no, thats simply part of becoming an Electrician.
Zombie1Boy very true
Brian burns Linus like Linus burns a UPS...
when you become an electrician you get a filthy mouth lmao
*server room locks*
"Oh hey look at these magnetic walls that come off giving access to the server room! "
I actually scrolled down thru the comments to see if anyone else thought that. LOL.
Not the most secure thing I've ever seen...
well since its magnetic he could always get those magnetic locks with a touch pad or other form of security protection that way all he has to do is put the security code in and it would unlock the panels.
The protection will be that he puts a giant pile of tech stuff in front of these doors.
Well to be fair it'd probably be easier to just kick the door down rather than move that steel and battery beast to go through 😅
1:40 "you need some clearance behind this unit" 8 seconds later 1:48 'great i can fill that space with some bins and stuff'
makes a better fire?
@@billfusionenterprise This is cursed
Tech: hey, u need room behind this
Linus: I'm glad we have room back here now so I can fill it with stuff
Right that is major fire hazards
Dudes an actual danger to everyone in that house.
@@redhammer92 that is very much not a house.
@@mollykalk8240 wouldnt plastic and metal just slow down the spread lol
@@handlmycck just yesterday near my house a big metal shed full of plastic for recycling caught fire. It was declared a major incident and had over 20 fire crews on it and it was still out of control. Plastic does not slow down fire lol, even fire retardant stuff is only self extinguishing after so many seconds. It'll burn for that time though.
"That's you with a tool, Linus."
"Well yeah i didn't want to host the video myself."
What a sick burn
so he can order a/c right.. can not do space for air flow.. and can not lift thing... what a tool...
+
I didn't even get the joke until you walked me through it.
@@1900maniac such wise words
biggggg stretch
"Hey, you need clearance behind the unit"
Linus: "great, that's where I can store all my shit"
maybe they added more room than was needed for clearence.
@@Ramog1000 and it's not like a full wall
tbf its clear at the end of the video why this one needs clearance, its units are deeper than the old one
also i hope it will only be this stuff and not much more, than it will be fine, it's realy not much he did put there.
13:55
Director: Linus
Host: Linus
Brian: Brian
Brian: No need for an introduction
big brain
@@ethantorres4061 Big Brian*
@@FireSiku Nah cringe
Linus: "I ordered the wrong air conditioner twice"
Corsair doesn't sell All In Ones or heat sinks that big
its linus. he will figure it out some day.
@@satakrionkryptomortis he'll try to liquid cool the building
Future video: sub-zero air conditioning
@@thalente8074 Like he did with the office a few years back or by filling it with water?
@@TheRavenCoder arrite that's funny
linus: puts locks on server front door also linus, puts magnetic doors in the back
security through obscurity
The enter/return button exists
The magnetic doors do not interrupt the server unit?
That is called a backdoor ;)
@XRFiltration I think those puny magnets with a few feet distance won't cause much interference, No.
Eaton: You need more airflow
Linus: okay I'll rip out the wall behind it then fill the airflow space with bins
‘You need room behind the unit!’
Linus: ‘I’ma stick all my bins and stuff back here! :D’
Ahahah. I was thinking that too
Least we’re all on the same page 🤘😂
As long as the bins create a fire hazard there is no problem. It is good stuff for making a video. After it burns down again.
need matterial to burn for the fire bro
@@LovelyDoetje if they're plastic bins, the next video could be interesting...
"Yeah I do refrigeration, now."
!~Brian the Refrigerator~!
I know, HVAC, but still.
Brian the electrician, Brian Refrigeration
Brian the refrigerator LOL did you mean to say Brian the air conditioner
He's a real cool-ant, dude!
Brian the electrician has to be my favourite side character in this anime.
Fa.. Correct!
Top 10 Anime Betrayals
Brian Refrigeration.
Linus: "This time we'll definitely have an Eaton technician there when we first turn it on"
Linus thirty minutes later: "Okay Brian, turn it on"
Eaton
Just for your reference it is Eaton.
Also they did not show the inspection but they did mention in the video that the Eaton technician had come out and done the inspection before they started hooking everything up from the server rack.
Eaten the technician?
Eaton
@@AliShuktu cannibalism 100
"you need tons of empty space behind the unit"
Linus: this is great cuz now I can put bins in here for all my cables!
hahaha made me laugh also
LOL, i came to comment this same thing while watching the video
"I ordered the wrong air conditioner twice." Best part of the video.
I never had AC 😁
@@ACOnetwork ACO network more like AC NO network.
Because he applies the same "I'll do it myself instead of paying people who know what they're doing" mentality to his house that he does his business.
As a contractor I love when he has contractors on the show for a good laugh
I like how the server room door has a lock on it ( I recall from previous episodes and for good reason), Yet the wall is completely removable, without keys.
Looking at it I doubt there's room to get past the UPS and access the servers from the back of the room...
Besides if anyone *really* wants access, that's just a plasterboard wall, magnetic doors or not you could be in there in a few minutes with your bare hands.
Actually, just while I'm on physical security, the main door to the server room has :
1. A big vent in the bottom.
2. Hinges on the outside.
The lock is there only to keep honest people out.
@@davidbarrett6434 likely more to keep any visitors (workmen, delivery people, etc...) from accessing it
I was a Maintenance supervisor at a Nestle plant. We would have a company come in every year to check the connections in every panel of our MCC rooms. They used a thermal camera and you could see the loose fasteners. They would become loose because of repeated thermal expansion and cooling over the years.
Not to mention most of these companies use cheap zink bolts, locks, and nuts. Also good for them to check the bus bar because it oxidizes over time. Especially copper.
Our sparkies just did that a couple months ago.
Front of server room: MASSIVE secure door
side: magnetic door to the powersupply
Snake? SNAKE? SNAAAAKEEEEE
"Do you have 2x4s?"
"Yes, I have 2x4s!"
"Does this pallet have 2x4s?"
😭🤣😭🤣😭🤣😭🤣
3:45 - now that's a TRUE Western Canadian accent if I've ever heard one.
Originally from Manitoba, can confirm. To be fair, it's more a rural accent, but yes.
@@CanuckGod Can confirm. That dude has merked some walleyes with a jig n a minnow.
i was about to comment on that
did he say bonfire or barn fire xd
Canadian Santa over here
First Name: Brian
Middle Name: The
Last Name: Electrician
Actually it's Brian 'The Electrician' Refrigeration
nickname: Electrifying
Destined for greatness
Linus: "does this pallet have any 2x4's in it"
Also.Linus: proceeds to use a 4x4 to lift unit
Ikr
Yeah, and no explanation, that pallet didn't have any 4x4s in it,
@@jaykoerner It has a 4x4 on one side and two 2x4s for the center support and the other end. Not sure why it's asymmetrical.
@@IndianaTony TLDR: I know too much about pallets
that's weird, but I work at home depot and we get weird pallets from time to time as well, the pallet refurbishers sometimes make Frankenstein pallets, my favorite is when the take the parts of 2 skinny (euro) pallets a make it so that every other board goes to the middle support from a different side instead of every board just going straight across, that and the pallets that are clearly made from the parts of CHEP brand pallets(also called blue pallets, or the broad term is 4 way entry) because they are painted blue, CHEP does their own refrubishing and only rents pallets so once the are no longer being use they are supposed to go back, and not doing so is theft, so that likely happened somewhere else and the pallet was just shipped around
Brian the Electrician finally getting the intro he deserves
Linus: "Why you got to emasculate me like that..............Oh god that's heavy"
Question asked and answered
The beard makes up for any emasculation.
A locked door and fence door, "high" security all of that but we can just lift the wall panels off.
That's what I thought.
5000 IQ robbery.
Well, i mean, if those batteries block the rest of the space, it isn't going to be easy to move them.
Lol exactly
I mean, from what I see, you can only really access the UPS from the magnetic doors.
And that UPS is *SO* heavy, especially with all the batteries and power units on. Would you expect someone to try and steal that?
Plus it is not like the black market for $2000 batteries is very big. No one would buy a used Eaton battery from a random guy that does not have a receipt.
In comparison, some of the servers in the front are a lot more valuable and a lot lighter. It is also a lot easier to sell standard server hardware than specialized battery equipment.
And I guess when Linus moved to that office, he was scared that someone may try to do funny business to his servers, but he realized that no one even tried to enter his building since 2015 so he does not care anymore.
Eaton: "Fine. We'll help you out."
Linus: "This is a colossally stupid design."
To be fair to Eaton they did have to give their approval to this video
Companies are always looking for feedback... With no feedback they can not fix anything. Companies who do nothing on feedback fails. SO Eaton hearing that comment will now think, Oh ... I guess that was a bad design on our part... Let us make it better for the customer for the next device.
YamiSpyro2011 Or risk...Linus: our Eaton unit caught on fire...here is our NEW XYZ brand to replace it”.
It's not a problem. This kind of industrial hardware doesnt have to deal with the fickleness of consumers.
@@PlzDontKillDave funny story.. Because the new one did not have the same design flaw and they didnt even hear the comment yet.
Linus is genuinely one of the most reasonable people I've watched online. When he mediated both sides there and could have gotten angry at either side instead, as the customer... Idk man he's just a class guy even if he wears socks and sandals and then drops heavy things on them, we all have our flaws
So as someone who installs these Eaton UPS'es i can confirm there is always an Eaton engineer present. So how come you didnt get the engineer on the first install?
Also as an electrician. This was totally Eatons fault! :D
Also confusing how they power this one up on camera with no mention of the engineer being there at the time.
@@alexatkin He said 'inspection has been completed' just before they do the 'move in' Presumably the eaton tech didn't want to be on camera.
100% agreed! Bad QC by Eaton
@@cfrazee100 Who can blame him? I wouldn't want to be the face of the company that screwed up big time in a video about them screwing up big time.
@@kalebbruwer could have been a good chance for them to save face (get it?) if the guy was good on camera... but that's always a risky move unless its someone who's used to being on screen :)
When your locked server room, has an unlocked backdoor.
Don't worry, he'll have so much stuff piled in front of those that they'll never open again.
@@FergyA Linus: EEYYY
@@FergyA Not to mention an immovable object(UPS) probably blocking up the entire passage. Thats not something that you can move in a hurry without a lot of swearing and huffing. And probably destroying something along the way.
"My perfectly adequately protected foot" - Linus who wears socks and sandals even in business attire
Nice cat
Bruh theres gotta be a subreddit for this... r/kindofwooooshed?
@@potatoesarelyfe4706 bruh what's up with your name noob
Yup that is the joke
@@aarnav3696 like yours is any better?
"if you're gonna go kaboom i'm gonna go kaboom too"
hell yeah, a true bro.
Linus is a real homie for brian
So you’re telling me this guy has a big bulky iron door securing the server room but a backdoor installed that can be opened by simply pulling out some wooden pieces? Sounds great!
NSA Approved.
It's probably not for physical security
There is chance backdoor are locked from inside, so first you need to open front door, unlock backdoor from inside of the room and then you can open it from outside. The same way as second door in wardrobe are locked. Simple mechanism, but you need to get inside first.
I think the door is for soundproofing. Servers are notoriously loud. I've been in ones that are at 100db
Free hard drives for ALL!
Linus: Has a super secure door on his server room.
Also Linus: Puts magnet panels... also into his server room
Every enterprise I've worked for had the server room door as one of the most secure in the building. Obvious because all the valuable data is behind that door.
Masiosare II The data is certainly backed up elsewhere, but the hardware is hundreds of thousands of dollars, plus the days of lost productivity.
To be fair the UPS probably plugged in most of the hole and it is so heavy to move, it can be considered as immoveable.
Eaton: "You must have clearance behind the unit"
Linus: Makes room, "WOW, LOOK AT ALL THIS ROOM" plans to fill it back up again with combustible plastic bins.
@@xavier6foot8 There are different types of plastics. some with Fire retardant chemicals added, and others that dont
@@xavier6foot8 technically 'to combust' means to be consumed by fire. while you're correct that plastic melts rather than burns (because it's a product of petroleum), it technically still combusts.
Avery Thompson plastic definitely catches on fire
Well he's just gonna use them for cables, I don't think he meant it was going to be filled with bins rather the bins probably wouldn't take much space at all.
@@xavier6foot8 Plastic is basically solid oil.
"We need clearance behind the servers," immediately followed by "I'm gonna put some storage containers right here."
Brian: "Do you have any 2x4s?"
Linus: "Yes I have 2x4s!"
> ends up using 4x4
Omg yes lol. I died. Also the way they would have to mount the 2or it wouldnt lift the unit by 4 inches. It would only lift it by 2. If we are being technical it would lift it by 1.5 inches
everyone knows 2x4 is just a catch all for piece of wood that someone has lying around
@@Lucidilluminate I believe the plan was to use the 2 by 4's on their side to get 4 inches of lift, which would have been sketchy AF lol
@@WyattWinters yeah it would have. Also in any type of construction, carpentry, furniture making etc job no one says 2x4's for scrap pieces of board. Idk what the other guy means. It's a good thing he used the 4x4. It was probably a little safer
2x2
Linus: Make sure the door to the server room has a lock on it!
Also Linus: We cut out this wall to make access panels held on with magnets!
Big Brain
"I ordered the wrong air conditioner twice." Am I crazy i recall linus having like a huge segment on Wan show or something about how he was doing so much research into air con units.
Part of being smart is knowing what you know and knowing what you dont know. I've met mensa members who could barely do a simple task physically.
@@Michael-lg4wz may i know what kind of physical task they couldn't do ? just kinda curios not trying to debunk your story. Thanks :D
@@azew8402 and he never responded..
@@TheAlbaniaGaming it's kinda too short a time to make that conclusion, don't you think?
i do remember on wan telling he bought the wrong one
This video killed me
-Planning to store stuff behind the UPS in the clearance area
-Not wearing PPE and even worse, open toes shoes when moving equipment
-Literal backdoor to the server room without any noteable locks or security measures.
Alternate title:
Bryan gets bullied by Eaton
Bryan bullies Eatons shoddy work.
Eated by Eaton
3:15 - Linus: "We had to buy the warranty and service plan as well. I don't know. Maybe they don't trust us"
Uhhh, Linus? Do you think they watch yoru videos?
"I see it both ways"
aka
"Eaton I appreciate all that you've helped us with but that's pretty dumb and I'd like to keep my warranty"
11:40 Respect to Linus dude "if you're gonna go kaboom then I'm gonna go kaboom too, let's do it"
In the credits:
" *Brian* - Brian the Electrician"
In the credits:
" *Floor* " - Floor the floor
Where is the link to download him?
@@emeraldwolf1963 Floor gang ough
"Why did you take the heavy side?"
Likely because you're paying him money to be there
Also brcause his arms are the size of Linus' legs.
@@jimsvideos7201 OMG LOL'd so hard at this
sorry but jugging from his face movements he doesnt like he is paid for this... he is there just for the glory !
@@Tseflikas He's literally a hired electrician - He's paid for time on jobs this is just free advertising
And you don't want your employer dead under a huge UPS. Lol...
Linus: Server costs in the 10s of thousands
Also Linus: Uses power squids to power it
to be fair he did say he didn't like them in his server room
Linus the Minus strikes again.
the ups actually failed around a year ago, there is a wan show clip somewhere in which they discuss it. I think Linus was only using squids to keep things running until the replacement ups arrived. he did say it had him on edge not having the redundancy of a battery backup
It was worse a few years ago, he had so many power strips and squids there were multiple times where he accidentally shut down a server with his foot and claimed it had just "crashed"
@@Wiki7202 no not 1 year more like 6 months
Electrician: Clear out this space
*Linus clears out space*
*Linus sees empty space*
Linus: This is a great place to store stuff
I use to works as a service engineer for industrial equipment and from my experience the fact that they changed the way the busbars were attached means there was a problem with that. It may not be a fire, but rest assured that Eaton engineers have reported the problem more than once after regularly servicing other customers ’products.
That doesn’t change the fact that LMG skipped regular checkups (in another hand regular maintenance every 6 months on fixed equipment with almost no moving parts, seams a bit like a rippoff, but that’s a different story), but at least email customers without a service plan with a warning would be nice. Especially if you know that people buy your expensive product to keep it close to usually much more expensive equipment and valuable data and yours product can start a fire. There are many ways to wrap a story without explicit saying that your company screwed up and even get customers to pay something you should fix for free avoiding possible problems.
They just need to ask Apple to help them with that. Since Linus agree to give them more money instead of just sue them maybe they are already :D
My thoughts EXACTLY.
Yeah they definitely saw a big failure point on that and changed accordingly, you ain't changing a good design after all.
In my opinion, 6 month maintenance interval for a high power device, connected to mains, designed to literally be a backup device, and dealing with dangerous chemistry in big quantities, I would agree it's right on time if not quite lax if they aren't forcing their own technicians to install it and verify the install conditions right away (that last part I think they are, right? Forgot if they mentioned on the video).
I'm still trying to figure out why it arced. If it has anything to do to missing nuts that's unreasonable
@@tnuarb loose connections have resistance. It's *extremely* common for bad connections to do this. Infact, if I suspect a bad connection (often shows up as voltage drop when trying to pull large currents), I immediately look for connections. Often the insulation on the wire right next to the connection will melt first and be visible.
@@Kalvinjj exactly. Maintenance might be a required task, but if its needed to prevent fire, then they should provide you with at minimum a procedure. Requiring that their techs do it, and that you keep a subscription is not only wrong, but technically illegal (in the states).
Now... Is there anything a small business or individual can do about it? Not unless you want to fight about it in court
Eaton: "you need clearence behind the unit"
Linus: " i now have all this extra space that they said i needed.... lets fill it up with stuff"
The ltt " brian the electrician"-song was hilarious!
i need a 10hr loop of that song
Hi Linus, im an old it Infrastructure guy and i would recommend you to seperate the UPS from the IT Rack. its enough to build a fire blocking barrier with a "rigips" wall of 2 layers.
I absolutely adore the Brian The Electrician theme.
SAME
It sounds so South Park!!
11:49 " if you're gonna go kaboom im gonna go kaboom to, lets do it!" well said, a good IT expert always go's down with the server room
Cue the cameradude taking a few steps back
@@arifijan Voice in backgraound at the time, "I'm not!"
Server room: * Catches fire *
Electrician: Steel toe caps
Linus: Open sandals...
Can we trust linus lol?
Linus: Open sandals. Linux: Open source.
Its not funny fella
Electricians shouldn't be using Steel Toes these days. Composite/Carbon Fiber toes are better because they are non-conductive.
@@nathandanner4030 Doesn't matter, the steel is inside the shoes. Kind feel stupid myself for even pointing this out.
Jeffery Cole I’ve seen a few pairs that get worn to the point the steel is showing 🤷♂️ shouldn’t really happen being an electrician there’s no much where wear on them but it can happen. So technically the guy above is correct although if your vigilant and change your shoes it’s up to you but now a days there are better options.
"Do you wanna give us a short?" I was so waiting for Brian to just point at the short in the board lmao.
*Linus:* _Our server room caught fire._
*everyone:* _Again?!_
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"🔥🔥🔥 our server room caught fire 🔥🔥🔥" (fiery thumbnail) - turns out just the fucking UPS unit caught fire. I guess if I dropped a cigarette on the floor and burned a hole in my carpet I can say my building caught fire. Linus and his clickbait titles back at it.
Linus: “List price of 9,000 dollars...eeeeehhhh”
Me: just stop paying adobe and problem solved
@@tb46475 He didn't say to stop using Adobe products though. He's probably suggesting that Linus can go sailing.
12:30 Linus turns "cold spares" into "hot spares" by putting them behind the exhaust section of a 12kVA UPS and a ton of servers. What a madlad...
I thought this too. Why store them THERE?
3:48 "do you want to give us a short explanation of what were looking at here"
Ya Linus, you let the magic smoke out.
5:14 Not saying this is what happened, but "you must pay us to send an technician to diffuse the time bomb we left in your new UPS" sounds like a bit of a racket.
In "fairness" (?) to Eaton, 4:38
I would not be surprised if these days, these products are designed in such a way to NEED support contracts and inspections and all kinds of service add-ons to keep the money train going. I don't mean that they'll burn down the place but enough stuff that it eventually does need you to pay up again.
@@CheapSushi Once you enter into this level of equipment that is expected. The UPS is only supposed to last about 6 years in the enterprise and then be fully replaced. Also at this level it is expected to have all equipment monitored 24/7 for both environmental and power. Then fully inspected by a certified tech (most companies have their own or contract them) once a year.
@@Dragonsrage012 That's understandable given that the end users want to avoid data and productivity loss, and the UPS provider wants to minimize any liability in the event of a failure, while maintaining a strong reliability record.
Still tho, no nuts?
@@Dragonsrage012 I completely agree that Linus botched the maintenance part......'
But that still doesn't explain the literally time bomb as design choice. That shit is so obvious it is difficult to see how there is a natural reason to ...... just design the way it is, and expect technician to fix it manually during installation.
@@IkLms11 but there are ways of designing it to require your own technicians that aren't a silent fire hazard. If it won't turn on unless their own tech does whatever needs to be done internaly, fine/whatever. If it appears to be working fine from the exterior outputs area all in spec, while likely to set on fire at some random time in the future... how is that okay? Require your own tech to make it work, not correct the silent fire hazard.
13:56 I really do appreciate that "Brian the Electrician" was credited as the "Brian" in this video!
I like more that Taran the "Quality Control" is behind the video panel and not visible.
I love how he's talking in a normal pitch, it's so much more relaxing then that "showboat" style of talking. Keep it up
Word
I just hope it isnt because hes simply depressed
Uh, Linus always speaks like this in "project" style videos when they're not scripted.
He’s definitely depressed 100% anyone can see it
I love Linus but some of the server room stuff makes me cringe with my being a sysadmin and running our datacenter. It'd be nice to see some more best practices applied in that area
Aceoyame I'm sure that they do this at this point for comedic value.. they probably make more money from posting fail videos and seeing all the views
I mean sure the tech could assume that it should have been done this way and that way from the factory, but if you've never done something before.. as a professional read the manual. always read the manual..
if you're at home and it's whatever sure try doing it without the manual. but not professionally..
Was totally thinking the same; as IT engineer; holy crap, seeing this got me so mad ahah; how the f**k did this server room is not on fire every week !
The worst one for me was the video where they were filling the rack back up from top to bottom.
Hey, mind if I ask if I should take any special precautions with an APC smart UPS 1000 I keep in my bedroom to power 2 QNAP NAS? Seeing this video got me slightly worried.
@@LemonRush7777 should be fine as long as it's able to exhaust it's heat properly and doesn't have any liquid sources or anything particularly flamable nearby
"Can you give us a short explanation?"
"It is a short"
*rolls the credits*
But it wasn't.
Any loose connections will cause an arching across two points. Arching turns into severe heat build up and eventually cause a fire!
When you turn on lights at home, do you ever notice a crackling noise or a noise like a welder doing arc welding. If you do, that is an indication of arching within the light switch as the contacts come close but before they have made a solid connection. If you have old light switches that do that, you may wish to consider "switching" them out for new ones!
@@lisab3396 < she's correct.
Switches will ALWAYS cause arcing and you want to minimize this by switching as FAST as possible so the arc exists for as short a timeframe as possible.
This is why a switch that 'snaps' very fast (and audibly) is much better than a 'smooth' switch.
I remember as a kid I liked to hover lightswitches right at the arcing point because it made a 'nice' sizzling sound and being annoyed when I encountered a light switch that couldn't do this because it would snap between full ON and full OFF and couldn't hover.. Annoying for a kid, but GREAT for longevity and safety of the switch!
The reason it heats up because of this arcing is because air is a bad conductor so power is expended to 'burn' the air and turn it into plasma, an endothermic reaction.
It's the plasma that 'lights' up and that you visibly see, NOT the electricity that flows through it!
Yor lengvidg is so vird...
@@ayporos technology connections made a video on this.
it's also not just how fast you switch the switch, it's also the inductance of the load. higher inductance fights harder to keep the current flowing once it's flowing, so the voltage will spike more and you'll get larger arcs.
lastly, not all switches arc. mercury switches don't. I've got a few of those.
UPS Technician: "You need to keep this area clear."
Linus: "Awesome, I can pile a bunch of junk there".
As a technician myself, even if a “certified tech” installs anything at my work or house I still check everything. Not saying I am any better than the next guy but that’s how I believe a technician should think at every job. Treat every job like if it was your own house or business. This seems more like it was pulling more amps than it should and over time burned up everything. Probably another issue elsewhere.. just my two cents.
Butcher's cut beef like their own dog or ex
personally, anything that can burn down your building should be checked twice by 2 different qualified technicians the again after switching on to make sure it's working properly CYA only fools and amateurs think there perfect and know everything they tend to burn down their buildings too.
The problem is that service technicians do not value my property as much as doctors vow to value lifes, so why trust them more than neccessary
It's also a good thing because two guys usually think in 2 different ways, so it's easier to figure out some mistakes or those terrible "It ha always worked for me"
Oh yes of course cause you are the all seeing eye that will never let an error squeak by! Lmao
Linus: "This is 9PXM, our new UPS. It..."
Linux: "I DIDN'T TOUCH IT"
Looked for 2x4's.
Started taking 1x4's from the pallet.
Ended up with 4x4s.
Took the 1x4 to use the 4x4 in the pallet...
I feel like this UPS is one of those things which should be installed professionally
are you suggesting that Linus is not a professional?
Bryan is the most professional of professionals.
Whether he installed it or not, I don't know. But once he's mentioned, everything in the video is professional.
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Brian is a licensed electrician in Canada.
Eaton technician: "You need some space behind the UPS for heat dispersion"
Linus: "Sweet! A storage room to fill with stuff!"
Eaton technician: "......"
I haven't watched a LTT video in so long I missed Linus hitting Puberty! Congrats buddy!
Eaton: none of this is our fault.
Also Eaton: changes design for "no reason"
Eaton could have changed the design because they were seeing this happen (or in response to LTT's experience) because they wanted to make it more fool proof.
Andrew Lane but can they do it drop proof?
Linus did manage to drop it 😅
@@emu071981 You can not be that dumb can you? Stuff like this does not get changed unless its a real problem. That and the fact they seam to blame everyone else for it as well.
@@1Shignog or because it's been several years and product design changes over time??
Company: Don't do this specific thing
Customer: Specific thing is more convenient
*preventable incident happens*
Customer: surprised pikachu
I’ve been electrician for about nine years now and I could tell you that they blamed the fire on the insulation because of the limited breathing room And the installer because that was the easiest escape though they took one look at it and knew they could get away with that I promise you no electrician would ever think to themselves I’m going to tear this apart just to make sure they tightened all the factory connections together But I do suggest buying a small Torque wrench and Tighten everything down to spec torque at least once a year because the real problem was there was no annual inspection but there is an annual inspection even if the manufacturer forgot the nuts it would’ve been caught the first inspection
Jesus throw in some periods or commas. I’m having a stroke trying to read this
UPS vendors, the IT equivalent of the used car salesman;)
It never seems to be their problem, always someone else.
I thought the same thing when I watched. You'd think if he was screwing up as bad as they said then they would've told Linus before this. But then they couldn't make any money off him buying a new unit :/
Jason R I’ve also had bad experiences with large UPSs like this. I’m an electrician who works in an entertainment venue with a large media and show control server array. In 2018 we had a technician install a UPS shockingly similar to this, and it did not work after it was installed “correctly”. Took almost 6 months of arguing with the manufacturer and the installer before they fixed our problem.
Our issue was not with the the unit catching fire, but with faulty control hardware, specifically a manufacturing defect with capacitors on one of the main control boards.
@@states1996 After working in IT for a long time when I go on vacations I unhook my UPS at home because I'm super paranoid about it lighting on fire. I do not trust UPS'. Also organizations don't realize UPS equipment have expiration dates on them for a reason.
@marthale7 lol did you have the UPS outside with a metal pole strapped to it?
@@dasupalouie I have a small UPS in my bedroom. An APC Smart UPS 1000. Should I be worried? And by unhooking you mean removing the battery connection and not just unplugging it from the wall, right?
Linus put locks on your magnetic doors. Having an unlocked back door to your server room that the whole world now knows about defeats the purpose of having a lock on the main server room door.
Brian: "it's you with a tool, Linus"
Linus: "well yeah i didn't want to host the video by myself!"
hehehehe
I laughed so hard on this....and still lololol 🤣🤣
omg i totaly did not understand that ^^ thanks!
I didn't get that before now!
I never knew I needed a sassy electrician in my life until Brian started popping up in videos
*2:08** is there a video of Ethan/Eaton? I'm a bit confused, did they make a video with the UPS guys? Thanks.*
linus: oh yay i found a 2x4
the 4x4 he’s cutting: 🙃
I think its because they noticed a 2x4 was too short to lay flat, and would be unstable if placed on end. So since they had a 4x4 it was used instead.
@@ttomkins4867 He should've at least let me know that he was switching it up.
How can you measure the wood through the computer monitor screen?
@@pawpatrolnews identifying timber dimensions isnt too hard
"I ordered the wrong air conditioner twice."
Ouch. So much wasted time, lol.
I love the new magnetic plates you had there... especially in combination with the security gate on the front door... So then I presume those are high security magnets? ;)
2017: joke about sever room caught on fire
2020: You have had fun for too long Linus. Now is me.
"Only an hour"
My UPS only lasts an hour *without* a load.
Yikes. Imagine what the lasting time would be *with* a load on that UPS....
Bad battery.
*LOAD* you say ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Almost all consumer UPS only run for a few minutes under load. mine says 600mins without load which I think is BS. They are designed to keep the electronics on them safe and running without data loss or damage. When power goes out on my UPS, the instructions literally say to shut off my PC if I can't get power back. With servers that's a little harder.
@@Tusai the whole point of a server ups is to safely shut down the server with no corruptions. Unlike if the power goes out without a ups
@@ryzech4168 Exactly, but it takes longer on a server due to workflow, and shutting down a larger set of systems. That's why server-grade UPS is so large in capacity as compared to single-phase wall outlet UPS.