I wound up buying Master Plan after watching Warren's video. The UI is incredibly intuitive and makes it easy for a n00b to use. A little goes a long way.
Ozone does almost all Master Plan does, plus some 100 other things if you need it to. There's no way you can compare these. That's why Ozone costs a lot more, because it gives you a lot more, too. You really have to tweak it (like removing the excessive low end) like you did with Master Plan. That being said, I like Master Plan for simple moves on the mix bus before the song hits the mastering stage.
I have the updated Master Plan and Ozone 10 Advanced. It's very close between the two but I have been using Master Plan more. The only advantage I would give to Ozone is the fact you can use the individual modules on mix tracks which I use quite a bit. If someone is starting off in mixing, the Ozone suite has a bunch of useful modules to cover a lot of bases (dynamic EQ, saturation, limiting, spatial tools, etc). Logic mastering is mediocre but would work in a pinch. They should definitely give you more options on the eq to make adjustments.
I'm on Ozone 9. There's tons of tweakablity and options there. Masterplan seems cool but very limited. I might be partial just cause the AI & Presets aren't half bad for starting points in Ozone. It's all about customizing in Ozone where most people think it's just AI mastering lol It sounded best to my ears as well. Cool track.
Logic def harsh, ozone I felt that the guitars disappeared slightly. Masterplan felt full and “in your face” in a good way. Considering the mix wasn’t being changed it definitely felt like it had been. Great video!🔥
Logic Mastering improves my mixes, is simple to use, built in and free. By this time next year Apple will improve it (Customize the curve, be usable on individual channels and will own 51% of the market.
Yeah I like the ozone 11 version more. The low end hit you in the chest in a good way yet it was as clear as the master plan version. The master plan version was too clean.
Ozone definitely crushed the mix too much to my ears and made it less dynamic, and gave it a smiley face EQ which I really don't think the track needed.. Torn between LMA and Master Plan. I did quite enjoy the brightness LMA added though Master Plan definitely preserved the character of the mix the most and a lot of the processing was very subtle. I like the width Master Plan added.
I don’t think there’s any limiting or compression in terms of dynamics processing but there are varying opinions about the file compression and therefore quality (a slight reduction if any). I’d have to rip the audio off UA-cam and do a null test.
@@EdThorne Thanks - I've read different things about the merits/hazards of clipping in the mastering process (I know Ozone 11 has that feature too). I wonder what your view of it is?
@EdThorne You're missing the point of a master. It's intended to at least work on every method of delivery. That's why great engineers listen in the car, on crappy old air pods, laptop speakers, phones, etc. My opinions of course, I'm happy to let the listener decide if they agree
I don't mean to throw shade, My comment was meant to be constructive criticism on how you could improve. What I'm hearing is not something subtle. Just to humor you. I've now listened on my TV speakers, in my car and on my phone. All completely normal consumer devices that I know very well and have listened to hundreds of hours of music on. Everything else translates well but your mix has a vocal sibilance which is extremely grating in my opinion. If you can't hear it I would honestly get a hearing test. Hearing loss in the high frequencies is extremely common. Wishing you the best
@@EdThorne Its totally fine. It’s because I am from Europe and this kind of music it’s not easy for me. It’s like Italian tarantella or German folklore for American ears. Almost Dixi. But was a great review. Now I know once again, that I not need Ozone. It’s ok. But with gullfoss and some other stuff, it’s not needed. I like Your Channel. It rocks.
country is perfect for asessing all frequencies - the space and the airiness..... for that, I love it. "bleeding ears?" seems you;re liek an angry noob, rather than an impartial, non biased, sound engineer, that deals with frequencies" rather than his own insecurities.
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Very informative 👏 one of the best brake downs I've seen big up man
I like Master Plan.... Warmer, cleaner and more natural sounding than Ozone to me. Thanks for the video!
Agreed.
i'm definitely gonna change from ozone to masterplan.
I usually run ozone without the maximize on then I run it through the god particle. It comes out awesome!
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Agree MASTER PLAN:))
I wound up buying Master Plan after watching Warren's video. The UI is incredibly intuitive and makes it easy for a n00b to use. A little goes a long way.
so glad to have Master Plan instead of the Ozone system which they keep "improving" at ridiculous cost and laughable "loyalty" pricing
Master plan best. Thanksd for video. we love you bro :)
Thanks for showing your appreciation 🤘
Ozone does almost all Master Plan does, plus some 100 other things if you need it to. There's no way you can compare these. That's why Ozone costs a lot more, because it gives you a lot more, too. You really have to tweak it (like removing the excessive low end) like you did with Master Plan. That being said, I like Master Plan for simple moves on the mix bus before the song hits the mastering stage.
Master Plan sounded the most normal to my ear altough it was a bit empty-sounding in the mids. However it's the cleanest one so it's a big plus
I have the updated Master Plan and Ozone 10 Advanced. It's very close between the two but I have been using Master Plan more. The only advantage I would give to Ozone is the fact you can use the individual modules on mix tracks which I use quite a bit. If someone is starting off in mixing, the Ozone suite has a bunch of useful modules to cover a lot of bases (dynamic EQ, saturation, limiting, spatial tools, etc). Logic mastering is mediocre but would work in a pinch. They should definitely give you more options on the eq to make adjustments.
Good points all round!
I'm on Ozone 9. There's tons of tweakablity and options there. Masterplan seems cool but very limited. I might be partial just cause the AI & Presets aren't half bad for starting points in Ozone. It's all about customizing in Ozone where most people think it's just AI mastering lol It sounded best to my ears as well. Cool track.
Logic def harsh, ozone I felt that the guitars disappeared slightly. Masterplan felt full and “in your face” in a good way. Considering the mix wasn’t being changed it definitely felt like it had been. Great video!🔥
Thanks, Justin. Yeh, it's a nice sounding plugin and now goes on every mix AND master I'm doing!
@@EdThorne demoing soon! Love the channel.... Thank you
Logic Mastering improves my mixes, is simple to use, built in and free. By this time next year Apple will improve it (Customize the curve, be usable on individual channels and will own 51% of the market.
Loved Ozone 11 the Most. Masterplan sounded like it needs something extra to be done
Taste is a real thing. I'm glad that we all get tools that work for us! It would be boring if we all like the same thing! 😎😎🎸
Yeah I like the ozone 11 version more. The low end hit you in the chest in a good way yet it was as clear as the master plan version. The master plan version was too clean.
Where do you like to put the mastering plugin? before or after the UA Ampex ATR tape plugin?
Ozone definitely crushed the mix too much to my ears and made it less dynamic, and gave it a smiley face EQ which I really don't think the track needed.. Torn between LMA and Master Plan. I did quite enjoy the brightness LMA added though Master Plan definitely preserved the character of the mix the most and a lot of the processing was very subtle. I like the width Master Plan added.
Master Plan is a very clean clipper/limiter.
Great video. Would love to hear you master a track and then hear what AI can do. Master channel or something. That would be a great video
Thanks. I have a LandR Vs Streaky video somewhere on the channel. I may attempt a similar concept video with my own mastering.
How much does YT limit and or compress after upload? If at all, that is.
I don’t think there’s any limiting or compression in terms of dynamics processing but there are varying opinions about the file compression and therefore quality (a slight reduction if any). I’d have to rip the audio off UA-cam and do a null test.
Thanks!
Masterplan is impressive but isn't it using some sort of internal clipper to help achieve the result? I may be wrong.
It introduces clipping above 4dB of limiting.
@@EdThorne Thanks - I've read different things about the merits/hazards of clipping in the mastering process (I know Ozone 11 has that feature too). I wonder what your view of it is?
Logics AI sounded better to me, Izotope continues to be "hashy" and way bright for me not matter what you do.
Logic sounds too bright, Ozone sounds too crushed, Master Plan is just right.
My thoughts exactly.
@@EdThorne And yes, I came to that conclusion before I heard your thoughts =D
I'd recommend using more deessing on the vocal, those "S" sounds are faaaar too much. Makes the masters all impossible for me to listen to
What are you listening on?
@EdThorne You're missing the point of a master. It's intended to at least work on every method of delivery. That's why great engineers listen in the car, on crappy old air pods, laptop speakers, phones, etc. My opinions of course, I'm happy to let the listener decide if they agree
My asking is to gauge your listening system as a reference point to ascertain where it isn’t translating.
I don't mean to throw shade, My comment was meant to be constructive criticism on how you could improve. What I'm hearing is not something subtle. Just to humor you. I've now listened on my TV speakers, in my car and on my phone. All completely normal consumer devices that I know very well and have listened to hundreds of hours of music on. Everything else translates well but your mix has a vocal sibilance which is extremely grating in my opinion. If you can't hear it I would honestly get a hearing test. Hearing loss in the high frequencies is extremely common. Wishing you the best
Why country?? It makes my ears bleeding.
Acustica Audio is what I prefer.
Haha. Sorry. It’s just one of the better mixes I have that isn’t a client’s track.
@@EdThorne Its totally fine. It’s because I am from Europe and this kind of music it’s not easy for me. It’s like Italian tarantella or German folklore for American ears. Almost Dixi.
But was a great review. Now I know once again, that I not need Ozone. It’s ok. But with gullfoss and some other stuff, it’s not needed.
I like Your Channel. It rocks.
It's ok since that isn't real country anyway
country is perfect for asessing all frequencies - the space and the airiness..... for that, I love it. "bleeding ears?" seems you;re liek an angry noob, rather than an impartial, non biased, sound engineer, that deals with frequencies" rather than his own insecurities.
@@lenimbery7038 Yes! Like almost everything coming out of Nashville post '99.