Noctilus is the ultimate choose your own adventure campaign. I personally like having at least 1 army wandering around each of the continent level coast lines, sacking and plundering everyone. And you can do that because of just how little defending the Galleon's Graveyard needs.
better to do that as sartosa, yes galleosn graveyard is hard to reach but the settlement itself is the weakest in the entire game, normal field battle, bad garrison and no way to increase the garrison either
@@killhimnotme9129 Seconding this comment. I had a lot of fun with Noctilus until the order tide arrived: Elves, Lizardmen, Empire, and even a rogue army totaling 6 full stacks. I recaptured and rebuilt the Galleons Graveyard twice before accepting my fate...
In WH2 the Graveyard was ignored. In WH3 it is constantly attacked from all directions. I even considered abandoning it in my WH3 campaign and just rebasing to Ulthuan because of that.
@@killhimnotme9129 Agree. Almost have to keep a strong army at the Graveyard at all times which can bog the campaign down or just give up on it and lose a great home base.
Yeah, about what I expected. Cylostra and Aranessa have problems, Luthor is basically stuck in Vietnam, and Noctilus gets a gundam and one of the best if not the best starting position in the entire map.
The ship’s carpenter tech follower is even stronger now because followers take effect immediately. You can just switch it between lords whenever you want to upgrade your ship for the 50% ship cost reduction.
I had a lot of fun with Cylostra simply leaving Naggaroth and taking sea lanes to Cathay. Plus her Damned Paladin - you put the ward save banner (from tech) on him and he takes so little damage it's insane. You can send him in then fire on everything fighting him with your gun lines.
Yeah people are seriously sleeping on Cylostra, it's not quite as obvious how open ended her campaign is as Noctilus but I actually think she might have him beat for sheer versatility. In my current campaign I sea-laned down to Lustria, established colonies there, snagged the Galleon's Graveyard while Noctilus wasn't looking, and now I've got her stomping around Cathay trading blows with Nakai while my second army plies the Great Ocean. You could just as easily start by launching a full-scale invasion of the donut, or sail past it and do as you want in Norsca, Bretonnia, and the Empire. It's very gratifying, she was always my favorite vampirate lord but her start in Mortal Empires was really brutal. Now she's got the whole world at her fingertips from turn 1, and it feels amazing.
i hope they add more interesting pirate gameplay to vamp coast, I want to be able to raid from the ocean if ur close-ish to the port settlement and be able to directly attack from the ocean like black arks. also being able to ambush like in pirates of the carribean how the flying dutchman can just emerge from under water
Noctilus is probably my favorite campaign in the entire game. You can pretty much choose any part of the map you want to play in. Never really had anyone seriously challenge the galleon graveyard in wh2. Actually haven't played him in wh3 but I doubt much has changed in that regard.
I super disagree on cylostra - you can just bugger off from your start with the sea lane right next to your starting province. Her skills are unique, her army plays differently and she buffs units Hella useful in settlement.s
In warhammer 2, there was a awesome overhaul mod for Sartosa that really turned the all faction around and made it a really interesting campaign to play out, especially if you "roleplayed" it a bit.
I really don't understand why they did the half-measure of making Aranessa a little more interesting by giving her access to the Ogre Pirate units but then didn't make any of her Sartosan unit buffs apply to them. What's the point? Would it have been that hard to rename the unit to "Sartosan Man-Eaters" and then just have them count as Sartosan units for the sake of buffs?
I’ve found outposts to be largely underwhelming, due to being unable to buff recruited units from other armies, but something like that (or giving dwarves some really good hammer cavalry) really let’s the system shine once in a while. When you get the chance to cover some big gaps in otherwise very specialized races, you feel like a strategic genius.
Now I can’t wait to play a Count Noctilus campaign! Yes, please do the Lizardmen for the next Worst to Best video. For now, I’m thinking of doing a Gor-Rok campaign, but I’m not too sure.
At first I liked Harkon but the never-ending war against the lizzards was too tiring, you don't really get to play much of the pirate stuff but end up entangled in the continent and you can't really leave your province since they won't stop invading you till you basically destroy every single one of them. Noctilus on the other hand is really living a pirate life, you can choose to go wherever you want and just deal with the elves later on when you're stronger and on top of that the Galleons Graveyard once upgraded is really easy to defend even if you don't have a full stacked army there.
Love these videos and I hope we get to see every race! I am so hyped to be getting my first PC in November. Right now I play Warhammer on my Mac but it's about time I immerse myself with an actual gaming machine. Unfortunately Mac still doesn't have the immortal empires update so sometimes these videos are such a tease!
aranessa should be revamped to be totally devoid of vampires and buff the non-undead equivalents, perhaps as a unique lord tree effect all her prometheans and leviathans can get regeneration? And YES, Luthor's lord effects are... weird to say the least. Perhaps instead of the -60 aversion to coast mutineers, he can get another unique building in The Awakening that lets him recruit vampire pirate captains early and an additional 1-2 capacity for them? Lean into that character mob thing he has going.
I reckon if/when Dogs of War (or Southern Realms depending on the name) comes, Sartosa will get a fairly significant facelift, making them a full on mortal pirate faction with some vampires to boot.
Honestly there are way too many lords that should just be foot lords. I can't stand how almost every lord boils down to what mount they have while shit like grimgor and sigvlad are absolutely busted while still being on foot
All Aranessa needs to fix her faction is allowing her to build (heavily discounted) upgradeable outposts in her pirate coves just like you can do with military allies. Now you can go on a globetrotting adventure putting together your own swarthy pirate crew from all over the globe. A huge swath of the Vampirate tech tree unlocks banners that would work fine with outpost units, too.
Noctilus is also a very strong contender for the sword of Khaine if you can manage to steal it and aren’t interested in a land empire. Assuming nothings changed from TW2 the Khaine weapon affects also apply to his Necrofex mount for ridiculous AP damage.
I think Cylostra would be much better if she had an effect similar to Festus where it's a big aoe around her due to her singing. Like a soulstealing aoe damage? She seems to have a bunch of interesting lore stuff that would make her interesting, but just needs some updating for sure
I would definitely enjoy Sartosa now that CA decided to give Aranessa easy access to Maneaters, BUT Sartosa itself - along with Gaean Vale for Alarielle - are currently bugged and reduced to 8-slot settlements as opposed to the 10 slots they both had in game two. Could you please shout at CA to tell them to fix this? It's been putting me off from playing several different campaigns.
@@ericposey4124 No, Sartosa is definitely bound to be a bug. The settlement tooltip at level 5 still says to unlock 9 slots for this now 8-slot settlement. Gaean Vale does not, so that MIGHT be intended, but Sartosa most likely isn't.
@@IDidntVoteForThisOption So I've seen. Still, even if it is not a bug, Sartosa and Gaean Vale alike should be 10-slot settlements regardless on account of their multitude of landmarks.
Play with cylostra with the volume off and she quickly becomes the best. you can cast units infront your lines let your ranged bombard enemies while they deal with the casted units and get her big crab and wreck the left overs.
Would kinda make sense for some Sartosan units to be gunners instead of melee, and have zombies holding the line for the living instead of the opposite.
Nah, just gonna wait till the mod that gives her all living human units. Makes little sense that living humans would work with rotting corpses knowing they would join them.
@@akaroth7542 I would be fine in an army with zombies holding the line while the humans shoot guns and fire artillery at the blob. Better than live humans taking the charge of enemies, and having to avoid friendly fire. :D
Aranessa and Von Carstein both really need an update that gives them living troops. Aranessa isn't undead and never lead any lore wise. She'd definitely need more Human and mutant Pirates fighting for her. A full conversion making her a proper sub faction would be interesting, but unlikely CA would go that far (there are already some nice mods out tho). At least like 4 more living units and maybe one living Admiral and one living Hero unit would really make her feel more distinct and interesting. Less importantly but still on a wishlist. Von Carstein, the most beloved Lord of Sylvania with Imperial ambitions should also have access to more living units (I don't know if there are any lorewise, but Sylvanian units could be based on historical Romanians and Hungarians....tho that would depend on Games Workshop), but at least some Empire unit re-skins wouldn't be bad as well as some access to the Elector Counts mechanic. Maybe like 4 more Sylvanian units. One hybrid range/melee light cavalry, one artillery, one Pistol/Sword unit and maybe one Halberd infantry in addition to the already available Crossbow and Rifle units. It's just an Idea, but it would definitely make them more distinct provide some options.
"Before Chaos came, the Order factions were nice and lazy. Now they are all in a constant state of readiness and the raiding game has dried up. I'll make Chaos pay for messing up my pirate racket!" -Count Noctilus, maybe
With Cylostra putting her on the Rotting Leviathan is worth it in most situation (especially if you got a healer), but you might want to take her off against certain factions. NEVER put Aranessa on the Rotting Promethean. It's a terrible mount for most lords/heroes. The only ones who can make good use of it are ranged characters like gunnery wights and some Lords since they can fight and shoot at the same time (as well as have better LoS). Aranessa is my favorite. She's the most piratery of the vampire coast (both through faction/lord effects and her starting location). Which is kind of funny considering that she is the only mortal lord in the faction. Luthor and Cylostra are too locked into their locations and you'd think Noctilus is free to roam around, but really you'll likely fight the first 50 turns in Ulthuan. Also, as Aranessa, I'd generally recommend fighting Skryre early and getting Estalia. It's insanely good with 4 harbors in 5 settlements + allows you to do some diplomacy with the dwarves and bretonnia (truly allowing you to go everywhere).
Cylostra Direfin is hugely under rated with all the reduction costs she can get mourguls down to 40 upkeep doomstack those with afew heroes and her and she becomes near unstoppable and asfar as where she starts in the world who cares abandon those settlements and do a campaign without any just travel the world and set up coves everywhere to finance your armies and raise the lands that you cant put coves in
Why? She's the supposed daughter of Manaan, sea creatures are fine. Would be better if they were living, but at least there's an in-universe reason given.
@@HiddenEvilStudios her motivation to have an undead army is barely anything and mixing undead and living forces is a bunch of crap, especially if the troops you can't heal are your frontline. I'd prefer if they took the unique part of her and went all the way with it.
@@NyJoanzy I agree with the last part, but I'm personally relatively content with the current iteration. Apparently Aranessa had an Ogre as a first mate. Adding him as a legendary hero for her faction could function similarly to Henri le Massif for Repanse, where he gives a bunch of unit bonuses to the lord's army.
Dreadfleet: Aranessa joins the Grand Alliance so that she could purge the undead and vampirates as Manann willed so in her dream. TW: Aranessa has undead and vampirates under her command.
Wait... I always thought Harkon had high relation with lizards and Noctilus had the bonus with the followers of nagash? I'm confused xD Perhaps that's because I switched over from tww2 just today. Great video!
Okay, Noctilus is awesome to play as, until I get to the part where EVERY one of my neighbors declares against me, seizes my territory, and sails towards the Galleon's Graveyard. Is that supposed to always happen? Although it never occurred to me to just ignore Ulthuan.
Aranessa and Cylostra shouldn't even be in this race in the first place. Aranessa should be part of dogs of war and cylostra should have been replaced by canon character who is also etherial unit specialist - Vangheist.
Fellas what unit is the lobster with the cannon as a hand. I’m new to this game and I saw it on the load screen and the trailer but I have no clue how to get it please help!!!
@@italianspartacus The Necrofex is what made me play the faction awesome model! I ended up finding it. Its the animated hulks never thought itd be them
If I recall correctly the lore of the deeps just kills everything might not be cost efficent but who cares in campaign anyway. I mean it's all mostly armor piercing base tides call has already 33% and the later spells have 100% so they are in fact really strong agaisnt druchii
There aren't any techs for vampire coast that benefit syreens which isn't helping Cylostra. I actually really liked playing Aranessa, as having to play without healing changed my playstyle, but her army and faction effects leave a lot to be desired.
raiding is kinda useless cause your army upkeep is always way higher then amount raiderd. even with dedicated factions/lords for raiding. and on the higher difficulties the public order penalty doesnt matter for ai aranessa hating skrag though :/
Huh, booted up Aranessa campaign earlier today and for some reason even with the level 3 port up I cant recruit any ogres at all. Is the latest update bugged?
@@italianspartacus yeah double checked, only shows the 3 captains and nothing else. Disabled my mods and verified my files. Wondering if I may need a fresh install or something.
In the early game use handgunners as your frontline units, melee is only slightly worse than deckhands and they benefit from shooting the enemy before they engage in combat. Their army does not have true Calvary so make sure to use lore of the deep summons to protect your flanks. Don’t be afraid to have a trash stack army following your main army around to soak up frontline damage while your main army shreds them from range.
You probably make the mistake of parking your gun line directly behind your infantry, which ends up denying them line of sight on non-large units. Don't be afraid to create gaps in your frontline for you to shoot through like a checkerboard formation, or moving your gunners to the enemy's flank or back to shoot them.
reel need some late game sartosan units. or at least let the buff stack to ogres. she's got multiple abilities that Buff sartosan units but they are still bad by mid game. at least give them some more AP
@@italianspartacus true, but its such a gamechanger for the whole faction its worth a mention that at least one army will be steamrolling everything ;)
Here’s some things that I think coast need to be improved upon in wh3. 1st. Better way to increase hero capacity. Honestly, pirate coves sucks. Its expensive and not interesting compared to under city. Gunnery wight and mournghul hunter are amazing but its a pain to increase their capacity. Vampire captain is a bit better and I know CA nerf hero spamming really hard in wh3 but really, just don’t make it such a chore to increase their capacity. 2nd. More and better gunpowder unit. Coast is supposed to be The Gunpowder faction in the game yet they don’t have a single monstrous gunpowder unit aside necrofex colossus. That doomstack is amazing for sure but won’t it be super cool if they got their own version of undead pistol maneater? They can make ship golem with cannons so why not an undead ogre with fused blunderbuss. Or why not a swashbuckler depth guard that also use pistol as a tier 5 unit. Rotting promethean with gun mobs are just… not good. 3rd. Better mount. Who ever thought that rotting promethean was a good mount? Maybe its kinda okay for a hero mount but why a lord with ship building also only have them as a mount? They suck big time, slow and very easy to be hit by the enemy. Give better general mount for normal lords and give special mounts like colossus, leviathan or terrorgheist for ship lord. 4th. Kinda tied to the 2nd point but emphasis on the artillery. Specifically queen bees. Yes, its the most powerful artillery coast can have and might possibly the strongest artillery in the game but… why can we only get one of them? Tomb kings can have multiple casket of souls as long as they have fund and their rites is off cooldown. If they don’t want us to spam too many queen bess then why not make a limitation that each lord can only have 1 queen bess in their army. So make them a semi-regiment of renown in campaign. Or introduce a capacity mechanic which allow us to increase the amount of queen bess we can have. Once I got my queen bess the rites are pretty underwhelming too.
Probably has to do with an outdated mod, if you use mods. I had this problem with a currently oudated mod that adds the remaining lores of magic to Dark Elves. Alternatively, verify file integrity of your game on Steam if you play there.
For me Vampire coast was the biggest disapointment. and honestly the only dlc i really regretted buying. the coves are less than a scaven underhive, the horde shipbuilding a farcry to how the black arcs of the dark elves. The roster? really sucks early game and all you do is rush the walking ships doomstack. Everything else is just waste of money. I have way more fun with Lokir raidung coasts, than any of the vampires playing pirates.
Noctilus is the ultimate choose your own adventure campaign. I personally like having at least 1 army wandering around each of the continent level coast lines, sacking and plundering everyone. And you can do that because of just how little defending the Galleon's Graveyard needs.
Yep best way to play. So much more fun than painting the map like just about every other faction.
better to do that as sartosa, yes galleosn graveyard is hard to reach but the settlement itself is the weakest in the entire game, normal field battle, bad garrison and no way to increase the garrison either
@@killhimnotme9129 Seconding this comment. I had a lot of fun with Noctilus until the order tide arrived: Elves, Lizardmen, Empire, and even a rogue army totaling 6 full stacks. I recaptured and rebuilt the Galleons Graveyard twice before accepting my fate...
In WH2 the Graveyard was ignored. In WH3 it is constantly attacked from all directions. I even considered abandoning it in my WH3 campaign and just rebasing to Ulthuan because of that.
@@killhimnotme9129 Agree. Almost have to keep a strong army at the Graveyard at all times which can bog the campaign down or just give up on it and lose a great home base.
Yeah, about what I expected. Cylostra and Aranessa have problems, Luthor is basically stuck in Vietnam, and Noctilus gets a gundam and one of the best if not the best starting position in the entire map.
I'm having a blast with Clyostra with spooky army. I just allied the dark elves near me and went about the world setting up pirate coves. On VH/N.
Noctilus is the Goat. Always has been.
@@lilylute1248 Very true. I really love her voicelines, her character is so wonderfully over the top
Malekith used to contend for starting position but now they dropped an angry dorf, and anrgy bull and an angry daemon on his head.
Lol stuck in nam
The ship’s carpenter tech follower is even stronger now because followers take effect immediately. You can just switch it between lords whenever you want to upgrade your ship for the 50% ship cost reduction.
I had a lot of fun with Cylostra simply leaving Naggaroth and taking sea lanes to Cathay. Plus her Damned Paladin - you put the ward save banner (from tech) on him and he takes so little damage it's insane. You can send him in then fire on everything fighting him with your gun lines.
I actually did the same thing! It was much more enjoyable.
Yeah people are seriously sleeping on Cylostra, it's not quite as obvious how open ended her campaign is as Noctilus but I actually think she might have him beat for sheer versatility. In my current campaign I sea-laned down to Lustria, established colonies there, snagged the Galleon's Graveyard while Noctilus wasn't looking, and now I've got her stomping around Cathay trading blows with Nakai while my second army plies the Great Ocean. You could just as easily start by launching a full-scale invasion of the donut, or sail past it and do as you want in Norsca, Bretonnia, and the Empire.
It's very gratifying, she was always my favorite vampirate lord but her start in Mortal Empires was really brutal. Now she's got the whole world at her fingertips from turn 1, and it feels amazing.
i hope they add more interesting pirate gameplay to vamp coast, I want to be able to raid from the ocean if ur close-ish to the port settlement and be able to directly attack from the ocean like black arks. also being able to ambush like in pirates of the carribean how the flying dutchman can just emerge from under water
Noctilus is probably my favorite campaign in the entire game. You can pretty much choose any part of the map you want to play in. Never really had anyone seriously challenge the galleon graveyard in wh2. Actually haven't played him in wh3 but I doubt much has changed in that regard.
Graveyard is under constant threat in WH3. At least in my H/H campaigns.
I super disagree on cylostra - you can just bugger off from your start with the sea lane right next to your starting province. Her skills are unique, her army plays differently and she buffs units Hella useful in settlement.s
Hell yeah she my girl this dude just sexist
In warhammer 2, there was a awesome overhaul mod for Sartosa that really turned the all faction around and made it a really interesting campaign to play out, especially if you "roleplayed" it a bit.
I really don't understand why they did the half-measure of making Aranessa a little more interesting by giving her access to the Ogre Pirate units but then didn't make any of her Sartosan unit buffs apply to them. What's the point? Would it have been that hard to rename the unit to "Sartosan Man-Eaters" and then just have them count as Sartosan units for the sake of buffs?
There's a mod that buffs them with her yellow tree
@@jeanvaljean341 should be base game
FYI, Saltspite CAN recruit man eaters with pistols, the building just doesn’t display that
I found out about that when I built an Outpost in Sartosa as Kemmler. Vampire Counts with Maneater Pistols is quite interesting.
I’ve found outposts to be largely underwhelming, due to being unable to buff recruited units from other armies, but something like that (or giving dwarves some really good hammer cavalry) really let’s the system shine once in a while. When you get the chance to cover some big gaps in otherwise very specialized races, you feel like a strategic genius.
@@billbadson7598 empire is quite nice for ally units since the tech is very generic buff wise and affects them
Now I can’t wait to play a Count Noctilus campaign!
Yes, please do the Lizardmen for the next Worst to Best video. For now, I’m thinking of doing a Gor-Rok campaign, but I’m not too sure.
Aranessa should gets some skill line for her ogres as well. Also unless they changed it, you should be able to buy maneaters with pistols as well.
Video number three-three of asking this man thing to do the Skaven list with haste-haste
Hahahahah honestly... Maybe.... Uhhh third or fourth in line? There's so many so it takes a long time!
even after 1k + hours in wh3 and 3 full campains done this videos give great inspiration what to play next, keep the good content rollin!
At first I liked Harkon but the never-ending war against the lizzards was too tiring, you don't really get to play much of the pirate stuff but end up entangled in the continent and you can't really leave your province since they won't stop invading you till you basically destroy every single one of them.
Noctilus on the other hand is really living a pirate life, you can choose to go wherever you want and just deal with the elves later on when you're stronger and on top of that the Galleons Graveyard once upgraded is really easy to defend even if you don't have a full stacked army there.
These guides simply rock dude!! Absolutely doing a Noctilus campaign today.
Love these videos and I hope we get to see every race! I am so hyped to be getting my first PC in November. Right now I play Warhammer on my Mac but it's about time I immerse myself with an actual gaming machine. Unfortunately Mac still doesn't have the immortal empires update so sometimes these videos are such a tease!
aranessa should be revamped to be totally devoid of vampires and buff the non-undead equivalents, perhaps as a unique lord tree effect all her prometheans and leviathans can get regeneration?
And YES, Luthor's lord effects are... weird to say the least. Perhaps instead of the -60 aversion to coast mutineers, he can get another unique building in The Awakening that lets him recruit vampire pirate captains early and an additional 1-2 capacity for them? Lean into that character mob thing he has going.
I really hope Cylostra and Aranessa gets more Bretonnia and Sartosan flavor. Aranessa really should be focusing on mortal Sartosan units than undead.
I reckon if/when Dogs of War (or Southern Realms depending on the name) comes, Sartosa will get a fairly significant facelift, making them a full on mortal pirate faction with some vampires to boot.
Honestly there are way too many lords that should just be foot lords. I can't stand how almost every lord boils down to what mount they have while shit like grimgor and sigvlad are absolutely busted while still being on foot
They need to give Aranessa some love. She's such a badass character.
Love this series really helps me decide on which lords to play next.
Aranessa could recruit pistol ogres in 2.0 even if the port didn't tell you so, not sure if they've removed it
She can, I BELIEVE, but the portrait for them does not show. Only regular Maneaters.
She can, yes, and there's a mod that adds the other maneater variants and leadbelchers, and applies Aranessa's sartosan buffs to them
Loving this series, really useful overview 👍
All Aranessa needs to fix her faction is allowing her to build (heavily discounted) upgradeable outposts in her pirate coves just like you can do with military allies. Now you can go on a globetrotting adventure putting together your own swarthy pirate crew from all over the globe. A huge swath of the Vampirate tech tree unlocks banners that would work fine with outpost units, too.
Noctilus is also a very strong contender for the sword of Khaine if you can manage to steal it and aren’t interested in a land empire. Assuming nothings changed from TW2 the Khaine weapon affects also apply to his Necrofex mount for ridiculous AP damage.
I think Cylostra would be much better if she had an effect similar to Festus where it's a big aoe around her due to her singing. Like a soulstealing aoe damage? She seems to have a bunch of interesting lore stuff that would make her interesting, but just needs some updating for sure
I would definitely enjoy Sartosa now that CA decided to give Aranessa easy access to Maneaters, BUT Sartosa itself - along with Gaean Vale for Alarielle - are currently bugged and reduced to 8-slot settlements as opposed to the 10 slots they both had in game two. Could you please shout at CA to tell them to fix this? It's been putting me off from playing several different campaigns.
not a bug. they straight up nerfed a lot of things.
@@ericposey4124 No, Sartosa is definitely bound to be a bug. The settlement tooltip at level 5 still says to unlock 9 slots for this now 8-slot settlement. Gaean Vale does not, so that MIGHT be intended, but Sartosa most likely isn't.
@@HiddenEvilStudios a lot of text hasn’t been updated… capturing capitals as wood elves still says you get amber out of it
@@IDidntVoteForThisOption So I've seen. Still, even if it is not a bug, Sartosa and Gaean Vale alike should be 10-slot settlements regardless on account of their multitude of landmarks.
Play with cylostra with the volume off and she quickly becomes the best. you can cast units infront your lines let your ranged bombard enemies while they deal with the casted units and get her big crab and wreck the left overs.
Would kinda make sense for some Sartosan units to be gunners instead of melee, and have zombies holding the line for the living instead of the opposite.
Yep. A sartosa hundgunner unit would be great.
Nah, just gonna wait till the mod that gives her all living human units. Makes little sense that living humans would work with rotting corpses knowing they would join them.
@@akaroth7542 I would be fine in an army with zombies holding the line while the humans shoot guns and fire artillery at the blob. Better than live humans taking the charge of enemies, and having to avoid friendly fire. :D
I love the Vampire Coast (because Vampires with GUNS!) but I never compared them side by side. Have a Sub!
Aranessa and Von Carstein both really need an update that gives them living troops. Aranessa isn't undead and never lead any lore wise. She'd definitely need more Human and mutant Pirates fighting for her. A full conversion making her a proper sub faction would be interesting, but unlikely CA would go that far (there are already some nice mods out tho). At least like 4 more living units and maybe one living Admiral and one living Hero unit would really make her feel more distinct and interesting.
Less importantly but still on a wishlist. Von Carstein, the most beloved Lord of Sylvania with Imperial ambitions should also have access to more living units (I don't know if there are any lorewise, but Sylvanian units could be based on historical Romanians and Hungarians....tho that would depend on Games Workshop), but at least some Empire unit re-skins wouldn't be bad as well as some access to the Elector Counts mechanic. Maybe like 4 more Sylvanian units. One hybrid range/melee light cavalry, one artillery, one Pistol/Sword unit and maybe one Halberd infantry in addition to the already available Crossbow and Rifle units. It's just an Idea, but it would definitely make them more distinct provide some options.
My first tech I always go for is the Ship Carpenter that gives you 50% reduction to ship building. Then I just bounce him between my legendary lords.
Agree on this ranking, I miss the Eye of the Vortex campaign though, Noctilus had the best one...
I'd say pick Noctilus and go hunt demons. :D
Play the antihero scenario.
"Before Chaos came, the Order factions were nice and lazy. Now they are all in a constant state of readiness and the raiding game has dried up. I'll make Chaos pay for messing up my pirate racket!"
-Count Noctilus, maybe
Nice video! Love my undead gunlines
Prediction before watching: Count Noctilus is bae.
With Cylostra putting her on the Rotting Leviathan is worth it in most situation (especially if you got a healer), but you might want to take her off against certain factions. NEVER put Aranessa on the Rotting Promethean. It's a terrible mount for most lords/heroes. The only ones who can make good use of it are ranged characters like gunnery wights and some Lords since they can fight and shoot at the same time (as well as have better LoS).
Aranessa is my favorite. She's the most piratery of the vampire coast (both through faction/lord effects and her starting location). Which is kind of funny considering that she is the only mortal lord in the faction. Luthor and Cylostra are too locked into their locations and you'd think Noctilus is free to roam around, but really you'll likely fight the first 50 turns in Ulthuan.
Also, as Aranessa, I'd generally recommend fighting Skryre early and getting Estalia. It's insanely good with 4 harbors in 5 settlements + allows you to do some diplomacy with the dwarves and bretonnia (truly allowing you to go everywhere).
Vampire coast is such an awesome faction.
Cylostra Direfin is hugely under rated with all the reduction costs she can get mourguls down to 40 upkeep doomstack those with afew heroes and her and she becomes near unstoppable and asfar as where she starts in the world who cares abandon those settlements and do a campaign without any just travel the world and set up coves everywhere to finance your armies and raise the lands that you cant put coves in
I feel like Cylostra should be able to recruit ghost knights and Aranesa shouldn't even be an undead faction.
Give her bears instead of prometheans.
Why? She's the supposed daughter of Manaan, sea creatures are fine. Would be better if they were living, but at least there's an in-universe reason given.
@@HiddenEvilStudios her motivation to have an undead army is barely anything and mixing undead and living forces is a bunch of crap, especially if the troops you can't heal are your frontline.
I'd prefer if they took the unique part of her and went all the way with it.
@@NyJoanzy I agree with the last part, but I'm personally relatively content with the current iteration. Apparently Aranessa had an Ogre as a first mate. Adding him as a legendary hero for her faction could function similarly to Henri le Massif for Repanse, where he gives a bunch of unit bonuses to the lord's army.
Dreadfleet: Aranessa joins the Grand Alliance so that she could purge the undead and vampirates as Manann willed so in her dream.
TW: Aranessa has undead and vampirates under her command.
Love these vids bro
God this feels like ima play another noctilus playthrough
Wait... I always thought Harkon had high relation with lizards and Noctilus had the bonus with the followers of nagash? I'm confused xD Perhaps that's because I switched over from tww2 just today. Great video!
Thanks for the video
Awesome vid. Very helpful thank you! Is it just me... or are they clearly NOT saying "Deck Hands" lol
Beastmen or skaven is the only appropriate races to play :) :)
2:00 Imagine if you said "thong of enthrallment". She probably has a pair of those too
I will play saltspite when southern realms mod comes out.
Okay, Noctilus is awesome to play as, until I get to the part where EVERY one of my neighbors declares against me, seizes my territory, and sails towards the Galleon's Graveyard. Is that supposed to always happen? Although it never occurred to me to just ignore Ulthuan.
Aranessa and Cylostra shouldn't even be in this race in the first place. Aranessa should be part of dogs of war and cylostra should have been replaced by canon character who is also etherial unit specialist - Vangheist.
Fellas what unit is the lobster with the cannon as a hand. I’m new to this game and I saw it on the load screen and the trailer but I have no clue how to get it please help!!!
The necrofex collosus! Otherwise there's the rotting Leviathan which is a gigantic crab monster!
@@italianspartacus The Necrofex is what made me play the faction awesome model! I ended up finding it. Its the animated hulks never thought itd be them
If I recall correctly the lore of the deeps just kills everything might not be cost efficent but who cares in campaign anyway. I mean it's all mostly armor piercing base tides call has already 33% and the later spells have 100% so they are in fact really strong agaisnt druchii
There aren't any techs for vampire coast that benefit syreens which isn't helping Cylostra. I actually really liked playing Aranessa, as having to play without healing changed my playstyle, but her army and faction effects leave a lot to be desired.
Yes do lizards
raiding is kinda useless cause your army upkeep is always way higher then amount raiderd. even with dedicated factions/lords for raiding. and on the higher difficulties the public order penalty doesnt matter for ai
aranessa hating skrag though :/
Huh, booted up Aranessa campaign earlier today and for some reason even with the level 3 port up I cant recruit any ogres at all. Is the latest update bugged?
Hmm should be there? They're kind of hidden behind the vampire captains in the building browser
@@italianspartacus yeah double checked, only shows the 3 captains and nothing else. Disabled my mods and verified my files. Wondering if I may need a fresh install or something.
@@disigiahave to have the Ogres DLC… if you didn’t preorder then you have to buy it
12:22 - Is Rahkarth the last character in the game that really gets anything out of raiding?
Raiding is great for Beastmen
Raiding can make you immune to attrition, which is neat for dark elves who can't encamp. Skaven maybe got food from raiding? Don't remember.
I just haven't figured out how to win with V. Coast. Any basic tips?
In the early game use handgunners as your frontline units, melee is only slightly worse than deckhands and they benefit from shooting the enemy before they engage in combat. Their army does not have true Calvary so make sure to use lore of the deep summons to protect your flanks. Don’t be afraid to have a trash stack army following your main army around to soak up frontline damage while your main army shreds them from range.
You probably make the mistake of parking your gun line directly behind your infantry, which ends up denying them line of sight on non-large units. Don't be afraid to create gaps in your frontline for you to shoot through like a checkerboard formation, or moving your gunners to the enemy's flank or back to shoot them.
it'll take a while to get there but luthor actually gets the full lore of the deeps after you finish his quest
But it's only level 1 :( so you don't get ton upgrade the drowned dead
reel need some late game sartosan units. or at least let the buff stack to ogres.
she's got multiple abilities that Buff sartosan units but they are still bad by mid game. at least give them some more AP
VC not having a channeling stance is pretty rough
They need to make establishing coves cheaper
There's actually more Lizardmen and Chaos lords than Skaven.
with the new update chaoswarriors also have seven lords
Eight, not seven.
Warriors of Chaos, that is.
Right. I'll edit my post.
idk why there is so few mentions how op queen bess is..
Well she's a beast in all four campaigns, I just didn't want to focus on that :)
@@italianspartacus true, but its such a gamechanger for the whole faction its worth a mention that at least one army will be steamrolling everything ;)
you can recruit man eaters with pistols. it just doesnt show it.
@ItalianSpartacus Hello, I believe someone is trying to scam people with a fake account?
aranessa mount is the worst one in the entire game - it literally make her weaker.
Cylostra Direfin? More like Florence Foster-Jenkins!
Here’s some things that I think coast need to be improved upon in wh3.
1st. Better way to increase hero capacity. Honestly, pirate coves sucks. Its expensive and not interesting compared to under city. Gunnery wight and mournghul hunter are amazing but its a pain to increase their capacity. Vampire captain is a bit better and I know CA nerf hero spamming really hard in wh3 but really, just don’t make it such a chore to increase their capacity.
2nd. More and better gunpowder unit. Coast is supposed to be The Gunpowder faction in the game yet they don’t have a single monstrous gunpowder unit aside necrofex colossus. That doomstack is amazing for sure but won’t it be super cool if they got their own version of undead pistol maneater? They can make ship golem with cannons so why not an undead ogre with fused blunderbuss. Or why not a swashbuckler depth guard that also use pistol as a tier 5 unit. Rotting promethean with gun mobs are just… not good.
3rd. Better mount. Who ever thought that rotting promethean was a good mount? Maybe its kinda okay for a hero mount but why a lord with ship building also only have them as a mount? They suck big time, slow and very easy to be hit by the enemy. Give better general mount for normal lords and give special mounts like colossus, leviathan or terrorgheist for ship lord.
4th. Kinda tied to the 2nd point but emphasis on the artillery. Specifically queen bees. Yes, its the most powerful artillery coast can have and might possibly the strongest artillery in the game but… why can we only get one of them? Tomb kings can have multiple casket of souls as long as they have fund and their rites is off cooldown. If they don’t want us to spam too many queen bess then why not make a limitation that each lord can only have 1 queen bess in their army. So make them a semi-regiment of renown in campaign. Or introduce a capacity mechanic which allow us to increase the amount of queen bess we can have. Once I got my queen bess the rites are pretty underwhelming too.
Throng of ensongment
Am I the only one in immortal empire who can’t play anymore?? My game crash during the end turn cycle…
Probably has to do with an outdated mod, if you use mods. I had this problem with a currently oudated mod that adds the remaining lores of magic to Dark Elves.
Alternatively, verify file integrity of your game on Steam if you play there.
@@HiddenEvilStudios no mod used
Wow you did my girl dirty bro
Thanks for these videos bud, all v useful! F u algorithm
From what I’ve seen, the Sartosa expanded roster mod is mandatory for Aranessa
hi, is this vegetarian please?
Dafuq you mean worst
They're all fun
Vampire coast is the weakest
Need a serious update
I can't stand the washing machine that is going on in the background.
Wut
For me Vampire coast was the biggest disapointment. and honestly the only dlc i really regretted buying. the coves are less than a scaven underhive, the horde shipbuilding a farcry to how the black arcs of the dark elves. The roster? really sucks early game and all you do is rush the walking ships doomstack. Everything else is just waste of money. I have way more fun with Lokir raidung coasts, than any of the vampires playing pirates.
i find their roster very good, think u just dont know how to use their guns/undead aspects effectively