Twitter VS Penguinz0 & iDubbbz (Moist Cr1tikal & Ian Johma)
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#Twitter #idubbbz #moistcr1tikal
@penguinz0 @iDubbbzTV
Is this real life now where we blame random internet celebrities for shitty things we did? Jesus Christ accountability won't be a word in 5 years
Bro fucking literally. When that one dude was talking about how he was racist in highschool I rolled my eyes so hard cause my man literally said:
"I did these things but its his fault that I did them so its not my fault"
Accountability? What's that? I was forced to do those things by the man on the internet I watched.
Thats how i feel about it
Mate, people have been blaming random things for years.
People blamed video games, metal/rock music, and even dungeons and dragons for violence for years, and still do.
Like this ain't surprising.
@@camharkness true
Weird how there's all these people saying there's "racists are mad he doesn't say the n word anymore" but literally no one is making that point at all
But it's so much easier to straw man instead of come up with a rational argument.
That’s liberals for you. If they can’t cherry pick a reason to fit their agenda, they’ll make one up.
Welcome to Clown World
But what are people actually mad about then? Because he didn’t want to be associated with two people who are infamous in the alt-right space? If it has nothing to do with the N word then why are all these white people so mad?
I made a comment agreeing with Charlie then some mf tried to say I supported the use of the N word... Like b*tch I'm black wdym 💀
Once again Charle gives the most level headed, reasonable take ever, and the internet breaks because everyone is chronically online lmfao
People are so retarded they don't realize the entire internet was like this back that. COD, reddit, 4chan, Twitter. Shit was unhinged. If Idubbbz fucked a kid up, that kid was fucked up before he even watched him.
Reasonable? A white man talking about how unharmful online racism that wasn't aimed at him is isn't very level headed or unreasonable and acting like iDubbz is overreacting because he wanted to apologise for the harm he did, saying he didn't need to (no he wanted to) isn't level headed or reasonable either
Imo this is one of those situations where you can’t just sit on the fence and expect to not get thrashed. “Well he’s bad… but he’s also good!” Isn’t gonna cut it
@@Can_think_of_a_name, okay larper
He should not have apologized afterwards though
Bro the fact that people blame Ian for their actions is great, the fact they can't take responsibility for their actions
ong i watched idubbbz as an edgy teenager but never once did i think that i could be racist or anything lmao
That part of the video was *painful*
I’d never blame him. I’d blame my family. But he definitely didn’t help 😪
Watching adult men meltdown over their surrogate daddy refusing to act like a teenage edgelord is so funny
Lemmings
People are ignorant as fuck. He ain't sorry. The reality is once this type of content got demonitized....ALL these content creators somehow got a consciousness at the same time....
THANKYOU. That’s all it is. Money. Just Ian and ethan and people have no edge and balls to be fing honest
In the end we all know, filftyfrank did it better.
No drama no crying he just stopped and moved on, good for him.
Stopping and moving in is ok O guess but actually apologising, explaining what you did wrong, and why it's wrong and taking steps to change like iDubbz did is better than just moving on and pretending it never happened
@@Can_think_of_a_name Can you please shut up and stop talking like you are black and involved in this and know a lot about Joji? I see your comment alot in this and other videos defending IDUBBZ as if you haven't taken a shower yet, so please chill.
@@Can_think_of_a_name Joji actually cringed and stopped H3H3 from saying the n word before saying he needed to dial down a bit, he didn't really stop and try to make drama out of it nor try to get into drama but actually moved on to music and better things, not fully antagonizing people and he was different to begin with with his content mostly involving random subjects instead of people, mostly stereotypes and mostly cliches. Filthy Frank the character never really once criticized a person and even if he did, it wouldnt be a long video about the person but simple jokes and more.
So I don't know why you're trying to slyly trash Joji and trying to white knight Ian as if Ian is 100% better when it came to the edgy humor to begin with then his apology compared to a man who made edgy content that didn't really target people to begin with and isn't hypocritical as he is now.
@@Shleepidreamz When did I trash Joji? I never said what he did was bad, moving on is fine but I think genuinely apologising and actively making changes is better, than just kinda ignoring it, that's all I said... I like Joji and how is iDubbz apologising make him a hypocrite?
@@Can_think_of_a_name Man I see you reply to other by defending idubbbz's apoloy videos. Your replies are shit. Idubbz being fine making fun of other yet hates on a person that makes jokes on his wife's onlyfans is hypocrite. The apology video was forced and no one gonna believe him. Not even couple of wokesters will believe idubbbz apology, even though some wokesters will forgive him for that. Never apology to offensive jokes that wasn't harmful that happen years ago cause it's debatable if the person changed or not.
I love how in Charlie's vid apparently everyone claim they were bullied in hs cause Idubbbz.
Edit: Btw guys is it me or Ian is looking a lot like Theon Greyjoy of GoT? Lmao
That and tons of people saying they thought slurs were okay because idubbz said them. Like bro you’re just racist
exactly. war crimes at hs
It's such bullshit. People were acting wild in HS before eye dubs ever posted on UA-cam.
Zoomers are dumb as fuck tbh
A lot of us were, iDubbz and the culture he helped create influenced a lot of kids
Edit: So apparently people can't read. I'm Asian, because if the racism and harassment Ian encouraged I, like many other POC, was harassed and bullied, that's why I said "a lot of us were" affected by the culture he created, normalising racism and harassment I never said anything about saying the N-word
I don’t think y’all realize how easily influenced people are
everytime ian johma said "im gay" or "nword fword" he killed 120 million black gay people
I died in highschool because of ibuddzzz
black jew online
@@pep4338 cyber-Semitic
good. We need more population control.
ian *johma* 💀💀
doesn't sound right... doesn't sound right at all
Honestly Boogie had the best take on all of this.
iDubbbz could’ve just continued to make the content he was and just cut out the slurs and inappropriate comments, but no. He doesn’t even look like he wants to make videos anymore.
I mean the dude tried 🤷♀️ people got salty over it and started attacking Anisa for it
Filthy frank did it best. He said he doesn’t want to make edgy content anymore. And then that’s that. None of the fake “at 35 years old I’ve decided to grow up” BS.
Idk why ppl think having the personality of an HR department is cool.
Boogie is probably the only person who has been through somewhat the same thing so it makes sense he knows the truth of the matter and not the virtue signaling Ian Johma has been doing
@@Cabbage22927 I think it's less about having an HR-department personality and branding. They rode the high of being an edgy teen-twenty something when it was profitable, then it became unprofitable. Lots of cringe and wanting to rebrand leads to stuff like this. idubbz definitely could do more weirdo-youtube videos minus the edgelord slurs but he seems more interested in saying whatever word-salad to put him in good graces with certain groups. It's great to change for the better, but IDK there is something about his attitude that feels fake or forced. It's all hot-air.. we don't really seeing him doing actions to back it up. You wanna turn a new leaf Ian? Go make a video helping out homeless people, pay off medical debt of kids with cancer, volunteer at an animal shelter.. or well ANYTHING but just constantly posting online how you are a better person now because you said so?
Exactly hell that’s what max and chad did on cold ones
''Either all of it is okay, or none of it is"
-The Rational Idubbbz
Idubbbz is gone. All that’s left is Ian johma now
Yeah. He turned a whole 180
That's not rational LMAO
@@glanty language can be universal, but people don’t want it to be/ don’t let it be, so yes that is a rational take. People don’t seem to acknowledge the “none of it is ok” part which is idubbbz literally endorsing people to not say slurs if they intend to only say one. This isn’t the bible or some philosophy that can be used circumstantially- it’s language.
Ian was too cruel to such fine people as *check notes* Keemstar, RiceGum, and Tanna Mojo.
These morally upstanding individuals totally didn't deserve to be made fun of at all
Keem and Rice deserved what they got but he definitely went a bit overboard with Tana. Dude flat out harassed her
@@jay_1212 "Saaaaaay N-"
@@jay_1212 if you unironically tell me to kill myself, I’m going to harass you. 🤡
@@jay_1212 she deserved it too your only impartial because she's a woman. And she doubly deserved it because she didn't even understand why Ian did it in the first place
So why do you have a problem with people making fun of Ian? Is it not all fair game? After all, he's a "toxic" youtuber that says the N word
I can’t believe twitter gaslighted idubbbz into thinking he was gypsycrusader
Okay so you’re pro-Antifa got it.
@@mayborneflower I’m pro nothing I think all politics are shit! :D
@@mayborneflower oh shut up with this dumb political shit grow the fuck up
@@mayborneflower literally what
@@an_omniscient_nobody Backstory on Gypsy is that he was a pretty typical dude who did journalism and got jumped by Antifa and got backed up by the Proud Boys in the ensuing skirmish. He got away okay but Antifa and their supporters made it their mission to ruin his life from that point forward, paving the way for the Joker-styled infamy we know him for today. Leo was using Gypsy as an insult, entailing their stance on things like the BLM Summer of Love and the one morality professor who attacks the innocent with bike locks.
I’m glad we have Bowblax so I don’t have to go on the cancerous septic tank that is twitter
Ian didn't "grow up". He got successful. He made himself a buisiness. Now he has something to lose. He couldn't go corporate without shedding his edgy persona, so that's what he did. He threw everyone in his past under the bus so he could move on to 'bigger and better things'.
It's allllllllllll about branding baby.
@@blacksesamecandies it’s all about the money lol
Making it even more obvious why he hates Sam because Sam stayed as the person who was and died for a while and now Idubbbz singlehandedly resurrected the guy. Sam's popularity just shot up while Ian is trying to flip audiences but his way of doing that is just adopting the most culturally shallow political takes and he's imploding his career because of it. Everything Ian had, he gave up because he saw no way for that sort of edgy content to relevant while Sam proved him wrong.
>"bigger and better things"
Like being cucked and emasculated by his crazy wife? K.
Technically, both.
Technically he did grow up.
Yes he doesn’t want to lose what he has.. but he didn’t before? What changed now? Twitter?
Obviously not supporting Ian in any of the horrible things he’s said.
As a black woman, I don’t accept his apology. He realized that he did not like being made fun of. Did people forget how he treated Froggy or they have goldfish memory?
As a black man I agree.
EXACTLY! The reason why I disliked his video wasn’t about the content itself, but because of how he swept the whole froggyfresh drama under the rug
Another black woman, i feel the same way.
As a weeaboo, I agree
As an albanian I understand your plight
Absolutely hilarous hearing Hassan talk about empathy
I saw his video responding to Charlie yesterday and boiiii, his comment section ate his preaches up.
Remember when he said America deserved 9/11 then tried to say it was a language barrier issue?
@@gboy5955 hasan is the culmination of everyone idubbbz made a content cop on lol
Hassan Piker is a Fed.
He has zero room to talk that man was Transphobic to someone in his chat.
"As a member of the group you insulted and are apologizing to I don't accept your apology"
Instantly blocked by Idubzz.
'But guys, Ian's *really* changed! He *totally* wants to take accountability for his actions!'
Nope he just want people suck his dick which ain’t happening.
Holy shit did he actually do that?
Based. As if he needs the validation from some random twitter ho
@@majestic_717 it's in the video
I really hated how self agrandaizing Idubbz came off in his video
Like bruh you are not some almighty god that singlehandedly created racism
Idubbz was just a product of his time, he was never the source of it
Apologising for your last racism and influencing a lot of kids to be racist isn't self aggrandising at all, he was the source of a lot of, he was one of the ones that popularised it and no he wasn't a part of his times, this was 2016, this wasn't acceptable to non racists back then
@@Can_think_of_a_name my problem wasn't him apologizing for the slurs and hurting the people he did because that is a valid apology
My problem comes when he starts saying he somehow influenced an entire generation to be racist, like no bruh you made unfunny videos, as gullible as that generation was ain't no way he somehow turned them into actual racists that actively hate others based on their race
And no, blurting out random slurs isn't racism, it is unfunny and hurtful but it alone isn't enough evidence that someone actually thinks lowly of other races
@@mgdplayz5727he did influence a lot of people to being racist. I’ve had first hand experience of people quoting his videos in order to justify being racist.
@@mgdplayz5727 I agree with everything except his videos being unfunny how was his videos unfunny? They were very funny not like I'd fall over my chair funny but had some humor in it you can't deny that.
@@wealthybone2990 humor is subjective, I personally found his videos painfully unfunny, but I'm obv not the majority since his videos got a shit ton of views
Gotta love the "I grew up and I'm a better person now" while throwing everyone who liked his old content under the bus. He tried to cover up and say "if you gained something out of it that's fine" but goes on to say that there was nothing to gain from it other than hatred and negativity. I don't miss the old content because of the slurs; I miss the old content because it was pointed, witty and tackled issues and people who were misusing their platform and mistreating their fans. He doesn't carry himself with the same confidence he once portrayed and his wishy washy way of handling things with Froggy reeks of whiny emasculation. I'm not saying you have to be a manly man but I am saying that if you get asked a yes/no question four times and you can't give a straight answer but instead keep deferring for sympathy points, that's sad.
Maybe
Just maybe
His fans were awful people
@@rubymeaddle How tropey you people are. It's the same little cliches everytime. "Yikes" "My guy" "Maybe, just maybe" "This is not it"
Try exercising original thought for once in your damn life 🙄
@@rubymeaddle For not valuing the slurs but the heart of the channel? Like the time he spent with his friends? It's just a bit unnecessary to go after people who liked his edgy content, since Joji aka Filthy Frank was able to both grow past his old edgy content while still supporting the fans who grew up with him.
and by supporting, I of course mean, not throwing everyone under the bus.
@@rubymeaddle Maybe, just maybe. You're an awful person. See how it's unfair that I characterize you when I don't know the first thing about you?
Im convinced that most of these twitter idiots only saw a few clips of iDubbbz old content, that being saying slurs, and decided to go off of that and that only.
As a black person, good on iDubbbz for apologizing to the people he offended, but he needs to stop acting like he was the former leader of the KKK or some shit lmao.
He's not, he just feels bad for what he did
@@Can_think_of_a_name Very persuasive argument shut the fuck up bro he's right you're wrong as you are with every single comment you left
@@Can_think_of_a_name not asking they're race, hmmmm
Nah, like he was being dramatic. We find that apology tour shit cringe.
@@Can_think_of_a_name if he was actually sorry wouldn’t block the people didn’t accept his apology..
Did you watch same video or you just blind fan boy.
Charlie is right, Ian's apology feels so forced.
It might be forced, but it's also worth considering that in my opinion, when someone lacks confidence in what they are saying, that can sometimes come across as looking forced. It's just hard to interpret too much from tone when someone expresses insecurity.
@@camerongaul261 idk about that. Ian says that these content cops “indoctrinated young viewers into bad things”. I’m like if those videos do that type of harm, why not just delete them instead of unlist them? It feels like it’s he’s only half-sorry.
“ hey kids, ik I made y’all racists with these videos, so i made playlist of it , BUT THEY’RE BAD!!!” Like what?
@@paperbag4477 what a weirdly inconsequential thing to criticize the whole apology thing lmao, you're grasping straws
It’s forced and also I love how people saying that Ian made them racist or bigoted lol.
No chief that was on you!
Definitely just trying to back track now that he feels ashamed of the Sam Hyde and more recent events with Froggy, doubt he feels much different at all. He just made a video with a clip making fun of fat mentally ill dudes just... Stop it anyone who believes the apology to be legit is dumb af
I mean Critikal was and still is right. The edgy content was in its prime in the late 2010’s
Around 2013 was when the prime started, FilthyFrank rose to fame and content featuring cringe people also started, all that started to dwindle down since the Adpocalypse.
@@Pherioxus Precisely. Selling your integrity for money. This is why "content creation" as an avenue for money instead of just creative expression is a cancer.
@@emalinedickinson7492 Indeed, it's fine to make some bucks off of it, but I think it's a bad decision creatively when you start to rely on that revenue to pay your bills. It turns people into e-beggers, kills their creativity, and once the select few of them become successful, they become corporate.
it would have still been in it's prime if youtube didn't start demonetizing it.
i miss it
Being chronically online should be categorized as a mental illness. Some folks needs to unplug the f**king wifi, go outside, and play with a soccer ball or something. Hell, even better, go outside and socialize with people irl. How mad some people get over lukewarm opinions is, and I absolutely cannot stress this enough, genuinely sad. The emotional fragility is baffling.
all this just cause Ian couldn't admit Froggy going to see Sam made him upset
This is what happen when you cant answer a yes/no question 4 times
All this because Ian didn’t squat 225
I'm sorry, but when Voosh ( I don't care about moral principles, I just want to win) praises your *ahem* growth, that's a red flag if ever seen one.
Doesn’t that dude like cuties?
@@SkylarTrahan and is obsessed with horse cocks
@@SkylarTrahan correct
@@SkylarTrahan vaush likes and does a lot of really stupid crap.
Idubbz is trying to go corporate. This is the only way that could be possible and soon he'll have his Pepsi deal.
If he is trying to go corporate so be it, but it’s also just possible that people can change over time.
Or he feels bad about the problematic things he used to do/said and the harm he caused? People grow
If u watched his video and you interpreted the way he was acting as corporate I think you are delusional or don't understand the words you're using
orrrr maybe just maybe he feels bad for the shitty things he did
@@jay_1212 Do you feel the same way when someone gets exposed for saying nigga on twitter 10 years ago? Yeah I fucking doubt it
Imo idubbz ‘apology’ is complete ass, He only made it after all the backlash he got and it’s extremely apparent that he’s not genuinely changed to be a better person, but instead to have the moral high ground. If he was genuinely interested in any sort of change he wouldn’t have immediately disavowed and talked down about and to his previous audience, he clearly did that for the immediate “look at how much better than these guys I am!”
It takes a while for people to change, his old audience is gone now, if course when he was his old toxic self with his old toxic opinions/comedy he didn't feel the need to apologise for them because he didn't see what he was doing wrong. Also this has nothing to do with his other controversy
@@Can_think_of_a_namewhat does this have to do with my comment at all? Unless you’ve completely misconstrued the timeline here. The guy waited, what, a couple months to a year after his initial ‘Ive grown up! Look at all those idiots still saying slurs just like I did except I’m better now!’ To even go “yeah it was kinda messed up to say slurs and stuff, sowwy”
@@jackofastora8962 its crazy to me people suddenly grow up in there 30s..... like he made a lot of that content at 27, it was always about the money for him.
The real “complete ass” is Idubbbz new fans
@@Can_think_of_a_name🤓
As a old idubbbz fan, he didnt affect me and influence me to say slurs n shit. If someone did that its on them not him. I genuinely hope they realize that their the one responsible for their actions not a youtuber.
Holy shit someone with common sense!
@@SkylarTrahan A very dangerous common sense. This is the type of common sense that leads to mob mentality or bystander syndrome. Expecting everyone to just handle their own personal actions, acting as if people don't influence the actions of other people.
@@SkylarTrahan People do have responsibility for their own actions, but when the people you admire cause you to think that doing something is okay, ain't nobody gonna stop themselves from doing it.
that was my exact thought. people are using idubbbz and others who were “edgy” as a scapegoat for their own ideals and actions.
i was never huge into edgy idubbbz, never really thought it was funny. but its still incredibly funny to see how these people are blaming him for their own actions
This sums it up, its like You Say that Jom and Jerry influenced You to hit someone with a shot gun and see there face only getting chard black and them making a funny face and everything îs normal (irl You die from that)
"Remember, he was the one who started the edgy culture on the internet."
That one almost killed me. Imagine actually suggesting there was nothing edgy on the internet until iDubbbz.
People are forgetting how wild early ages of internet and youtube were,it was like the wild west lmao
@@randomperson093 I guess mrhands and swap.avi didn't exist until iDubbbz lol.
Why do people group Leafy and Idubbz together? Leafy just made fun of people who made fools of themselves online. Idubbz just shouted slurs for views
I guess filthy frank doesn’t exist anymore
True, but he definitely honed in the edgy culture. Before KEEM and Idubbz, it was a sort of scattered communities of autistic edgelord, but with his insane popularity and basically 2016 when he was dropping Content Cops him being treated like Jesus, it unionized the edgelords under one faith in a way which is 10x more powerful then just a bunch of scattered autism
"They didnt change nor grow as people, they just switched teams and now shit talk on people you hate."
That had to be the most accurate take on Ian and Ethan
"Guys, now that I made stacks of money from my Freak fight show, and it's something I can lean onto, I finally disown my old content."
I find him blocking people who claim to be in minority groups for not accepting his apology extremely funny 😆.
Because he's a thin skin coward who's not really sorry.
Everyone is basically forgetting the chain of events that led up to this point. To me, firing Froggy from CC2 makes all this seem utterly hypocritical. As one of the tweets said, he hasn't really changed, he just switched sides.
Yup. This is all gaslighting.
I think doing this to stop people from talking about this lol
Honestly as black man i’ve never felt offended by idubbbz’s. since when he use slurs, he uses them for either comedy or proving a point. Never once I’ve ever felt like he was specifically targeting any groups of people but seeing him try to apologize for something that didn’t offend anyone bothers me. Like it’s nice that he cares but he really didn’t need to apologize for anything.🐱
It offended a lot of people, just because you weren't personally offended doesn't mean others weren't
@@Can_think_of_a_name Just because people are offended doesn't mean you need to bend over backwards the best comedians who ever lived said if you're not offending someone you're doing it wrong also you're not part of the discussion obviously and he has a right to express his opinion as much as you except you vomit it out your ass on every comment as if it's law I for one don't care if the entire world is offended we don't see people going rabid on Eminem and he literally said "god sent me to piss the world off"
@@Can_think_of_a_name babe u dont need to reply to every comment dickrider 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
😂 this is bait
@@Can_think_of_a_name do you do this to every single reasonable comment or have you tried going outside into the real world? Typical liberal can’t accept that the world doesn’t give a shit about how you feel. Cope harder.
"One more youtuber off my list"
This line is particular highlights a dangerously common problem with young people these days. If anyone has a take that even slightly disagrees or goes against their opinion, they cut them out entirely. They start to become so shaken by the most room temperature takes. How do these people even function? How will they function as adults?
They won't and will live with their parents until they're 33
@@oceanbanana4341 can agree, as a zoomer exactly those people back in HS were the people that now are in their 5th Job, still living with their parents lol
I mean I disagree with tipster and lot of UA-camrs I like but Y’know what I still watch content!
People forget others have difference of opinions lol.
completely agree. its now common practice to create an echo chamber, and completely unwelcome differing opinions.
no discussion, just 'YOU CANT BE SERIOUS.....' + 'HUH????'
How will they function as adults? they won't. There are a lot of these types that are adults now, and look at them, they are a wreck.
Moist was very level headed, this is just once again Twitter being twitter, taking thing out of context, while having a moral compas.
Ik and it's funny to me like these people on Twitter probably also watch Charlie aswell because he's the most neutral guy especially on the political side and they're turning against him because he's right?
Yeah I guess I just don't get why say anything if u gonna fence sit so hard
Yeah all Charlie said is that idubbbz was not an adolf reincarnate shooting kids straight down an alt right pipeline, but he’s been made to think he was bc of the way the internet has changed. And people are acting like Charlie said “actually he was doing all that and also I defend it. Heil Hitla niggaz”
@@wealthybone2990 no they're turning against him cause he's very wrong. Maybe actually listen to the voices of actual minorities before writing them off to defend you're favorite youtuber who has literally knowledge of this kind of topic
@@Regu269 😂
The hate that Charlie is getting is unwarranted
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The new fanbase that Ian has created are just overly sensitive zoomers. Charlie's take was very reasonable.
nah nobody likes a boring white boy
@@Dragonwolfworm thank God I found the rarest thing alive! A reasonable person.
@@gregorybrissett9717 Definitely the rarest thing. People are getting more and more sensitive over everything by the day
I love how people are blaming Idubbbz for their own bad behavior. I was already in college by the time he took off and guess what? All that stuff was still being said when I was a kid/teen.
Bro, you were most likely 17-18+ at that time, not a 10-15 unsupervised kid/teen on the Internet that gets easily influenced, if you see him and start saying slurs WHILE going to college, thats your problem
@@bokeron34 you clearly misunderstood what I said. Kids have been saying that stuff well before Idubbbz took off with it. He didn’t single-handedly make kids start talking like that. And fyi, I was 20 when he first took off. Well after people my age went through that phase.
@@rikmcdik6662 you´re ight, i missunderstood on that, cant belive he took off at 20 with that type of edgy content and now he´s trying to act like someone in his 25´ish while been 30
althoug i never seen that type of content when i was on my 15´s cuz spanish first language
@@bokeron34 I guess Ian blame for cod room chats when they dropped the n word or f word.
Hear it folks before he had UA-cam channel he made those children say those words!
Do read shit you type?
I like this civilized comment section
lmaoo the weird kids saying idubzzz was the reason they were racist 🤣 nahh ive had enough internet this is literally insane
Nah i’m saying idubzzz was the reason why kids were racist to people of colour (take me for example)
I did something bad it’s Ian fault lol
@Raccoon yes. How about you blame the children for the racism they learned instead? That sounds like a VERY good idea.
@@sanrusdyne73 Children can be a*sholes and thats a fact of life.
@Saneysdyne you might have a point of Mr Dubbz (peace be upon him) ever said anything like “other races are inferior” or “it’s funny to be racist towards other people.” Given that he didn’t, all of the people using him as an excuse clearly misinterpreted his content or are just coping. In any event kids can be very unkind towards others without any good reason. Kids who harass black kids for the fun of it wouldn’t be any better or worse if Iddubbbz didn’t exist. You’re just stupid man. You’re just dumb, and I’m sorry for you.
Charlie and Shoeonhead had by far the best takes about this whole situation. It is so clear most UA-camrs have never had a low paying job in the service industry or spent any time around regular people. Most people are not that sensitive and can recognize when something is satire and comedy
YES!
You need time in the "real" world to figure this out.
This country is f*****. If a youtuber saying words made you a bad person thats on you. Everyone so weak minded and looking for someone to blame for their behavior. If you base your actions on a youtuber then you are the problem. Taking personal accountability is now a thing of the past.
Ian trying to be racist homophobic Jesus and putting his "past" self on the cross for actual hate crimes people committed is a weird flex
I feel like this ignores that fact that a large amount of his fan base were impressionable children (not his fault) when children see their idols do something they copy, it makes perfect sense that they adopted his behaviour after watching him. they were way too young to get the context and the fact that it was intended to be satire.
I feel the problem is more with parents just sitting their kid in front of computer/phone/tablet with little to no supervision whatsoever, 12-15 year olds should have been doing algebra homework and playing outside not watching content cops. and the worst thing is that people always like to blame the creator when it’s the parents fault for not parenting their kids and doing their jobs. literally the bare minimum.
it's amazing how much people just take the worse case scenario and completely miss the point on charlie take.
Since so many people are behind Ian’s big change, I expect them to hold him to his video fully. It’s gotta be an entire lifetime of apologizing and self-flagellation or it’s not genuine
Ian will have to donate at least 70% of his future paychecks to BLM to truly be forgiven for his bad word crimes and stochastic terrorism
Nah
Honestly, I think he knew if he shed his prior edgy persona and denounced it, he would’ve gotten this kind of support from new/younger internet users, who are arguably the most rabid. Better to be on twitter’s good side I suppose.
@@an_omniscient_nobody this is strong boomer energy if I've ever seen it.
@@Regu269 as a member of gen z, no it doesn’t fam. Right or wrong nothing he said had boomer energy. If you gonna roast people atleast do it well bucko.
I think criticizing Moist Critical's video is ok, but I don't see why people are getting mad over it.
Again, there is some stuff he said wasn't the best, but getting angry over it seems like a stretch to me.
'Ian Johma' bruh
Appropriate renaming, since the old iDubbbz is dead.
Ian Jomama
Johma what, sir?
@@EnderrBoi johma nuts fit in your mouth
iDubbz's haircut speaks for itself. I'm sorry, but that's how the pattern recognition mafia works.
guy has tons of content cop money but can't afford a decent hair cut
something is up
He hasn't changed, he's still the same jackass from before and if anything he owes an apology for Froggy Fresh for handling the creator clash situation so badly and lets not forget his comments towards Boogie and Wing's fight.
what did he say I didn't know he commented on that what did he say?
@@bassblowbackrecords8932 his video about Froggy did make fun of Boogie and Wings
Froggy is a manchild 🤷♀️
Yup. He might be worse cause froggy attack was actually malicious. Old idubbz did have malicious intent.. it was calling out bullies.
Can Twitter just...not exist?
Lets be 100% real. Idubbz was in his 30's when he "grew up". That simply isnt a thing. The real change is he fell in love with an abusive Ethot that genuinely doesnt like him and has said so in many ways amd is only with him because he is a useful career tool. Once she breaks it off with him we will see who the real idubbz is.
That's crazy
Yo, Idubbzz Joker arc/
The amount of parasocial in comment in so pathetic. You don't know these people, quit acting like you know what's up.
He had a neutral take and people got all pissy.
Because his "neutral" take wasn't very good
@@Can_think_of_a_nameit was I like it
@@Can_think_of_a_name because you didn’t agree with it?
@@Can_think_of_a_name Jesus christ take a breather and stop replying to every comment
@@SkylarTrahaneven critical admits that the video was bad I don’t know why you still feel the need to defend it
Ian was at the Geneva Conventions apologising for everyone he hurt, and paying the full amount for reperations
I grew up watching Idubbbz's content for most of high school and the start of college and not once did I throw a racial and homophobic slur at anyone before during or after that time
Sure he shouldn't have said them at all BUT to claim he is the soul reason for the rampant racism POC faced during this time really waters down the actual reason for why these kids thought it was okay to call black people the n word or gay people the f slur
This is a societal problem not some edgy youtuber problem.
He doesn't have to apologize for his old content because that wasn't really the problem and it really glosses over the actual problem, the slur usage
Not to mention to claim that his entire fan base was racist bigots who threw slurs around like proper nouns doesn't actually solve anything and just whitewashes the real problem
Idubbbz didn't create racists, racists were already racist before they watched idubbbz
You are a lot older you knew better you can't say the same for the others
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"Buhh?!?!" is gonna be my new reaction word. funniest shit ive heard today
Thank god people are finally making fun of zoomer reactions
You either die as the Joji, or you live long enough to see yourself become the H3.
As always, twitter users showing why everybody hates them.
everytime idubbbz said “i have crippling depression” he killed a million crippled people
The only person Idubbbz owes an apology to is Sam Hyde and Froggyfresh.
Edit: the guys who use the “alt pipeline” argument are cringe to considering that most of them trying to apply that to idubbbz I trying to use it for pity points for how stupid and uninformed they were on issues. If you like someone like Sargon of Akkad, old Idubbbz and Matt Walsh, that’s fine and if your one of those idiots who misinterprets their arguments by thinking they support racism or try to normalise it and by extension you become a racist, it’s your own fault for being racist, not the creators fault. arguably people like Sargon have done a better job of deterring the alt right from their content than Idubbbz has, I’d even argue that Idubbbz’s fall from grace caused many to turn to the right or even the alt right, considering how much of a coward he has become.
2nd edit: I think most people can agree that Emplemon and Dick Masterson’s takes were the best.
True imagine the guy that used slurs on a probably daily basis fires you because you hurt his feelings
Bruh for what 💀
He needs to apologize to me.
Listening to this drama idk about Sam but froggy deserves more than an apology
What's wrong with you sam hyde celibate stans? Lol
As a person with a disability, I still agree with the statement That's its either all okay or none of it's okay, cripple is still readily used today, even though The hurtful meaning behind it and the way it's used to be derogatory towards someone like me. You can't call someone an asshole in Minecraft but you sure as hell can call them a cripple
Honestly this video was very interesting because it shows how generational differences in thinking has led to such brazen opinions. If you were apart of 2016 youtube era it seems on average that people understood the videos were satiric. idubbbz also had a theme of preaching context mattering in language and you needed a thickskin while also reflecting on your actions. Whereas people not in that era obviously can't infer that from the videos so they just label all of his "old" fans as racist and bigoted. Honestly it kinda feels like hes deflecting attention from how he handled the froggy situation by now bringing up his pivot in youtube content. I miss old Idubbbz, not because he spammed slurs but because he made good content and seemed to have fun.
I think also they don't quite understand the "arc" that follows each one. They weren't around for those internet personalities being not cool dudes. So they can't understand why a content cop would be made on them.
It's cool that ian johma's personality and opinions flipped 180 to exactly the PC and "appropriate" attitudes of modern times, where you must have them to be a succesfull youtuber or streamer. It was very convenient for him!
This was appropriate back then too, most people didn't like his old content, it wasn't acceptable to most and if being against racism is "PC" then isn't being PC good? Are you white by any chance Will?
@rainbow_0o0 no I'm black and him saying "niggerfaggot" at people who weren't black never offended me. It's just words and not a magic spell to cause "Enrage" effects in all black people.
@@Can_think_of_a_name bruh all of your comments come off super racist. Asking people if they are white. People don't suddenly grow up in their 30s. He just wants money, and thinks this will bring him more.
@@Can_think_of_a_name why does his race matter you racist? Stop asking people there race chief. Racism against white people us fine but if it's against anyone else it's bad. Is that your mentality I'm thinking that you're just an actual racist.
@@Can_think_of_a_name bro get tf outta these comments jfc. Gotta come to everyones replies saying the same thing over and over lmaooo. Get a hobby or some shit
The Charlie hate is extremely over exaggerated, I can’t stand how unreasonable and vitriolic people are when it comes to mindless defending and worshipping Ian now. Also dismissing and putting down Charlie for his race or doing that to anyone who disagrees with you makes you look like an idiot, the very thing you think you’re fighting against. Discriminating people for their race unironically because they give a reasonable/different outlook is plain ignorant and stupid.
Both Charlie and Muta imo I share the same feelings with and gave the most reasonable opinions. And Emp raised a good point I hope Charlie soon realizes, Ian deliberately lied about Froggy and now he’s been falsely labeled as a sexist nazi and dumb stuff like that for no real reason. Even Muta said he was going to cover Froggy’s legal fees after Ian and Anisa threatened to sue him into silence. Charlie should be made aware of that because it makes Ians video seem even more disingenuous and will show him Ians blatant hypocrisy. Also for practically fat shaming Boogie and Wings also isn’t a good look either.
Ian and Anisa both come off as self centered and only want to be surrounded by a bubbled hive mind, its important not only as content creators but as adults to be able to handle criticism and take in thoughts/opinions from other people different than you. Colossal made a very genuine offer to Ian but I don’t see him taking up on it. Especially if you’re a public figure you need to be able to handle criticism, they have gotten some pretty stupid and over-exaggerated hate on occasion but they also deserve to be called out for being dishonest when it’s rightfully deserved rather than just block away people giving tame/honest criticism.
Never watched Content Cop, like 7 years ago a friend made me watch one of his unboxing vids and I was like “ok cool” and now only hear about him when stuff like this happens lol. Changing and wanting to make different content, making yourself happy and healthy is perfectly fine, but there are plenty of better ways to go about it and phrase things.
Ian's actions felt like some sort of heavy pandering to this crowd, either genuinely siding with them or just doing it to make himself as PC brand-friendly as possible. And I guess it's working to such an annoyingly degree.
Okay I like how reasonable you're being but I want to push back a lot on you here. People aren't bringing up charlie's race to dismiss him just inherently as a thing of discrimination, but to show that because in his video charlie is essentially saying what Ian did "wasn't a big deal", bringing up charlie's race is relevant because in their views, charlie can't really grasp just how big of a deal Idubbzs effect was due to him not being of a effected minority group from the hypothetical damage Idubbz caused. To be of a race or ethnicity NOT affected by the again HYPOTHETICAL damage Idubbz caused, you would have to be actively looking for and trying to be aware of that damage, and someone who thinks a situation is "not a big deal" again, paraphrasing charlie's take, would not in any world be looking out for that damage, thus he couldn't know because of his race and his general apathy in ideology towards the plausibility of damage being caused.
I can't really ccomment on the Froggy Fresh stuff, to be honest it's stupid internet drama bullshit that I literally roll my eyes at when I see it, I could not care less.
Ian and Anisa 100% handle criticism and critique, and in Ian's most recent video, all he did was criticize himself. You disagree with the reasonings Ian was critiquing himself, and to make a leap here, it seems from what I can tell you find him self-centered because in his criticism of himself he comes off as "mightier-than-thou" which is totally fair. I just want to point this out because I think this thought from you shows your bias against him. If we are to try and take him in good faith, even though he clearly struggles with his tone and how he comes off, isn't it a virtue that he's, even if you disagree, trying his best to be a good person?
You should really go watch those Content Cops back with a clear, unbiased mind. Take a step out of your own perspective, and try and watch those videos with the idea in the back of your head: "Can this rhetoric cause damage?" Whatever that damage may be: "Can this content make his at the time young impressionable audience actually interpret and believe these things? Can this content contribute to hurtful stereotypes? If a large enough group, even jokingly, repeats what he is saying, when does it stop becoming a joke?"
@@keega3185 Because actions speak louder than words. Ian goes on about being sorry because saying sorry into a camera is easy. He made money off those videos, he got his popularity off them. Why does he not donate it to an anti-racism charity? Why was the costume he wore into Creator Clash a reference to the green suit during the "I'mm GAAAYYYY!" joke? If he wants to be himself, then go ahead, do your unboxing videos and playing with Thanos toys, no one is telling him not to. It's obvious he's changed once he started going on h3h3 podcasts and the talk with Padilla, why do you need an apology now? You're trying to make up for your damages and if anyone did receive bullying because of it, Idubbbz is high if he thinks his apology is the thing that will bring them closure.
The dude was racist in 2016 because everyone was racist in 2016. This was a year before Charlottesville, this was the Trump election. Now that those politics aren't profitable anymore, he's changed to the most shallow culturally acceptable politics in an effort to remain relevant (and not banned). It's why Sam has a base of loyal fans because watching him, you can tell the dude is being himself, likewise, no one will go to Maoist Rebel News or Zizek and say they're disingenous. You may disagree with them, but if there's one thing you can be sure of, it's that they believe in themselves. Idubbbz obviously doesn't believe in himself, his apology is just mental masochism as if he's a victim now.
It’s so crazy to me how on loop Charlie can say something that makes perfect sense and people lose it
As a black man who was 16 when idubbz woulda been throwing around the nword iwould like to say im pretty sure it didnt hurt a single person especially me. If anything i thought it was pretty funny and a lil brave for him to say it. If anything that apology vid was to appease his current and future fanbase
This. No old fan wants him to say those word. People called him out for hypocrisy… him doing this is gas lighting hard…and to take away the attention what he did to froggy, n it worked. He hasn’t made content cop for 5 years. No one cared. Malicious slander on froggy happened recently.
@@acutelilmint8035Yea wouldn't say "no" fan I most definitely would hearing white people say slurs is the funniest shit to me but I digress def right about the wholw froggy thing the fact people are actually calling him "mature" for that is actually very worrying to me
It hurt me in the long run.
Yeah I guess so it was funny
,but to say its "brave" its kinda cringe .
@@Randomaccount9470 i was 16 when i thought it was brave so it makes sense it would be cringe
I'd still agree with the Tana Mojang content cop points where the n-word has been colossally emphasized whereas every other slur is practically ignored. That stands true even today.
I believe it's always about context. That said, I think people do care about other slurs, just look at the KSI situation a few months back. They don't even have to be slurs anymore, actually. The word trap is considered a slur.
@@guanglaikangyi6054 I do think people care about other slurs, but you're more likely to recognize the king rather than his subjects. Words only ever have power when you give them power, and the n-word is so powerful that people will even disregard the context of the word within a sentence or paragraph.
Also it's pretty hilarious that people think "trap" is a slur. That'd be like making "bitch" a slur lol.
@@Visiperson Yeah. Bitch is used daily to demean women in actually sexist enviroments, but for some reason context is applied to this word and not others. I get your point.
People act like iDubbbz was the CEO of bigotry and the originator of school bullying based on traits you're born with, I guess me being bullied for being autistic in the early 2000's as a kid was also Ian's fault.
It just comes down to kids who were already bullies in the first place had someone who they watched a lot. If it wasn't iDubbbz then it probably would've been someone else since at the time there was an abundance of edgy content creators.
I'm sure if I was a kid at that time I would've been called ''Gay Retard'' but I wouldn't blame iDubbbz for it, these kids were always bullies and just feign it as an excuse to bully.
iDubbbz may have contributed to a certain element of a toxic environment on the internet, social occasions and schools, but it wasn't as much as people claim to be and he certainly wasn't the only one. Ian already showed he moved past his edgy content when he stopped making them and started hunting squirrels.
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i just could never imagine amassing as many loyal fans as ian did and then over the course of 1 years entirely demolishing all the good will my audience had with me.
this is one of the most baffling dramas in the history of youtube. to go from pretty universally respected on youtube to absolutely hated has been a sight to behold, and i really can’t say i feel bad for ian.
I’ve seen opinions from Charlie, Vaush, Hassan, Mutha, Willy, Bowblax, DeOrio, Big Joel, Shoe, so many people so many opinions. It’s really fascinating.
I agree with Charlie. Him even following up with another video to elaborate on more points and understanding how some stuff got misconstrued is a huge W in my opinion. 2016 era was actually my favorite time because I loved the unfiltered comedy that was in abundance. I’m black and never had anyone come at me idiotically because of this stuff.
Times change, but it happens gradually vs instantly. That’s something most people don’t understand. I dislike what timeline we’re now in honestly. Land of the easily offended.
He sounds like a hostage.. he’s joined the cult. He’s full on leftist insane
a single personal experience cant speak for the experiences of everyone else, just cus you mighta not been bullied from it doesnt mean that others wouldnt have, i had a friend who watched his vids and said some of the most horrible shit to other people and thats absolutely on him, but the range of influence that creators have (especially on impressionable young teens) can be pretty bad
@@biezom. While that is true, I'm not saying it's something that no one else would have experienced. I'm mostly in disagreeance with the ones using instances where it may have happened to act as if this was the sole reason for it. This is what Charlie was attempting to put into view since Idubbz is taking this like he invented this shit.
Any influencer around this time doing things like this was definitely on the bandwagon of such content since it was normalized around that time. If someone decided to use it as a rallying cry to justify their jaded views when that wasn't the true intent of the content, that's on that individual. I'm just acknowledging that we're not all out here demonizing him for the actions of others that chose to misconstrue what it was originally about just because they said edgy stuff.
@@biezom. well your friend is a fucking dumbass, and Ian has nothing to do with that
It's funny (in a mobidly curious kind of way) that people say the 2016 era influenced people in a horrible way and turned a load of kids into monsters......but if anything, I think this current era is doing far more damage to humanity.
either all of it is okay or none of it is.
Usually Charlie leans too hard lefty for me, but I still like him, and with this take in particular, I almost completely agreed with everything he said. You think of Filthy Frank before he started Joji, went on an apology tour, people would respect him the same way? Nope. The second you apologize to the internet, you give them the green light to destroy you.
Bro...
"Too hard lefty". Charlie doesn't want people calling other people slurs, but is cool with hearing out both sides and assigning blame to all the correct parties, admits when he's wrong, and he's "too hard lefty". Sounds like the lefties got a point then, rightoids would never give anyone that benefit.
@@jayreese8522 My guy... Did you even read my comment?
I always felt like he was more of a right leaning moderate.
I think Shoe0nhead’s comment she made on Idubbbz video was the best: “Propping up a strawman of your past self and burning it in front of the mob that built it is wild” 😅
Idubbzz just looks broken. I don’t care if he says slurs, he just looks deeply unhappy these days despite claiming how happy he is.
It’s because he cannot take joke anymore anyone makes fun of his wife he has mental breakdown I think this man needs vacation.
I don't really feel like the issue is that iDubbbz apologized for dark humor. The real issue is that he broke one of the unspoken rules of UA-cam (and entertainment in general): Never attack your fanbase. And in his apology video, he literally said himself that he's responsible for the actions of his audience, meaning he thinks his own fans are a hivemind who can't think for themselves. I do agree with TheQuartering's tweets, because H3H3 was in the exact same boat as Ian was years ago because of BLM and his N-word jokes and other skits were used to try to cancel him. I do also think maybe it's financially motivated, because if he was really sincere, he would've apologized YEARS ago.
I'm confused, Charlie basically said "he may not have intended to hurt people with his past content, but he does acknowledge that it could have hurt people. He has the right to change his content but he shouldn't treat his past fans and content with complete vitriol." How does that make Charlie terrible? It's a reasonable take.
Honestly. Twitter is hell lol. Twitter users act like they are morally right when half the time people on their are telling other people to kill themselves because they have a different opinion and trying to cancel people for no damn reason. It’s ridiculous.
They beat my boy charlies ass
They tried, but Charlie's take is ironclad.
@@mr.dr.kaiser4912 100%
@@mr.dr.kaiser4912 Even moreso with the update video, a lot of people looked more stupid and continued to double down lmao
@@mr.dr.kaiser4912 so iddubbz shouldn’t apologize for trying to justify his use of the n word?
@@r3dscop3gaming56 actually watch his video
12:39 didnt knew Idubbbz single handedly created Call of Duty
It amazes me that we still have people who use the "I'm UnSUbsCiRBIng." Bit when they have an opinion that they don't like.
Like bruh, stop acting like that's some sort of power move. UA-camrs aren't losing sleep over that like you think.
A guy blocking the very people hes apologizing to for not accepting his very late and shady apology tells me all i need to know about his true intentions with the "apology" lol
Y'all ever see that npc meme? The one where the NPCs get mad at literally anything? That's Twitter.
Twitter is NPC University (the animated series)
Man those two tweets about apology not accepted and then getting blocked was such a current idubbz move lol. But yea i agree that the apology was years too late if he felt he needed it to, and while im glad? That he says that he wants to move away from it and become better im more interested in the current now and with the entire froggy fresh situation its not looking like he’s change is super positive so i hope he does apologize for that.
To all the people who want to corporatise the internet: take a long walk off a short pier.
You know? When I was a kid, I used to think idubbz was cool and respectable
I hope Charlie doesn’t take shit from Twitter this time because these people didn’t even get the point of why those content cops were around.
Let's not hope he pulled a Dream. Cause Dream got canelled for a couple of things.
@@freedude1177 I don’t think he will but at the same time with UA-camrs you never know.
All Ian had to say.
"I think I've grown past this content and I don't enjoy making it anymore. It's that simple. The negatives just outweight the positives. Plus, we all know and see that times have changed, I've changed my interests changed, and I do hope my viewers can understand that and try to change with me. If you think that my new content is not up to par for you, that's fine, I just want to thank all of you for sticking with me and helping me to get where I am."
Here. Done.
I dont get how people can really be like "Idubzz has finally grown and apologized and its so honorable"...acting like Idubbz was a 16 year old edgelord when he made those vids...he was a full grown ass adult making racist and harmful content and now he wants to move past it like he didnt cause harm to minorities with those videos
You had me dying "HUUUHHHHH" "WHHHHUUUUUUUU" lmao
Idubbbz content didn't make that set of people hateful, they already were.
I think those who weren't lower middle class white kids or lower middle class black kids during iddubbz reign as king of UA-cam genuinely cannot understand how much he influenced people, his content absolutely was damaging to dispute this is a argument i can't even entertain, but i also do agreed iddubbz really overplaying it as well, bro acting like he was a martyr for isis or some shit 🤣
Dude you can say the same thing about Call of Duty and 4chan. Idubbbz is not unique.
@@DOCTORKHANblog strawman? I never once claimed he was unique bud.
The big question on my head is, did Keem RiceGum Leafy and the others accepted his apology?
I feel like Keem and Leafy were probably busting their asses laughing when it happened
It's amazing his ego is so big he think he ruined an entire generation. Alright ian , let's settle down abit
At this point, the phrase "growing as a person" means nothing. He sure as hell changed but the closest thing to growing he did was grow into a coward.
All these idiots pretending their virtue is genuine and not merely a fear of retribution is comical.
Charlie literally is one of the most relaxed person and had me in awe because I didn’t think he was gonna really talk about this because his 2016 era wasn’t apart of the edgy era jus the “ voice over infomercial” which is still funny to this day
I don’t get it if what idubbz did was so bad then why didn’t they get mad like this in 2016
Tbf it's mostly his fans that hate him the most now
I think people were far too busy trying to get a "bad take" response out to listen to what Charlie actually said. If anything, I think he was far softer on Ian than he should have been.
My favorite part of the discourse is the amount of people confessing that they became racist bigoted people because they don't have the self agency to not be influenced by edgy jokes in 2016. Congratulations you look spineless
That one guy who said Idubbbz is responsible for him calling his minority classmates slurs 😳 like wtf man some of these people are straight booger eaters. I used to watch idubbbz all the time and I never called anyone a slur. That’s like blaming the violent video games for you killing a family of four.
so sad to see idubbbz take down literally all of the content cop episodes, thank christ for re-uploads i guess
They're still up, just unlisted
That part where the guy says he is part of the Afro-hispanic community gets blocked by Ian tells you everything you need to know. That and blocking Willy Mac of all people.