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  • @Dfm25387
    @Dfm25387 Місяць тому +995

    There's a reason they deleted the game we paid for because they knew we would go back

    • @dyltopher
      @dyltopher Місяць тому +107

      This is so true, re-defining the sequel to mean killing your only competition, you.

    • @skiper7795
      @skiper7795 Місяць тому +63

      Now if i look back at that its kinda fcking crazy. Is it even legal to do shit like that? They removed a product from 50 milion people that payed for it (sure a lot of those were smurfs with 10 accounts but still).

    • @zac-1
      @zac-1 Місяць тому +16

      Jeff let the game rot for three years and now this is what you're stuck with lmao

    • @firingallcylinders2949
      @firingallcylinders2949 Місяць тому +44

      We went over 2 years with almost no content on hopium for OWII only for there to be no PVE, terrible balancing and we actually aren't even getting that much content right now. We get a new map what every couple months maybe?
      There's no getting around it OWII exists to sell the shop.

    • @BearsDenOneinVain
      @BearsDenOneinVain Місяць тому +1

      FACT BROTHER!!!

  • @ChoiceOW
    @ChoiceOW Місяць тому +521

    Blizzard will most likely never go back to 6v6 as if they do that'll just show that Overwatch 2 is a complete failure

    • @yesnt8314
      @yesnt8314 Місяць тому +85

      Overwatch classic would become an instant hit

    • @firingallcylinders2949
      @firingallcylinders2949 Місяць тому +40

      They can't, it would require admitting a mistake which they never do. If they brought a tank back they'd basically be admitting OWII was pointless and they should've just stayed with the first game.

    • @Fantasmafamiglia
      @Fantasmafamiglia Місяць тому +18

      The reaper guy...

    • @virtue9846
      @virtue9846 Місяць тому +48

      Overwatch will die by its pride before admitting 6v6 was objectively the better format

    • @Booty9822
      @Booty9822 Місяць тому

      tbh id respect them more for it unironically

  • @firingallcylinders2949
    @firingallcylinders2949 Місяць тому +127

    Overwatch is the only game that feels like a chore, even when you win a ranked game sometimes it felt like you lost, idk how that's even possible.

    • @stazzy5858
      @stazzy5858 Місяць тому +13

      this is how i feel playing ow2. OW1 actually felt rewarding to play

    • @spoonsVSforks
      @spoonsVSforks Місяць тому +18

      When you win you just feel relieved not good…

    • @vyg3313
      @vyg3313 Місяць тому +2

      Because of modifiers. For example, your team is struggling but somehow you win - you get a expected modifier. You lost few games in a row playing solo vs stacks - you get loss streak and so on. This system is barely working

    • @Kootsworth
      @Kootsworth Місяць тому +3

      The only thing the new ranked system achieved is getting proper feedback after a game. Everything else is a massive downgrade, which says a lot because the previous system was a disgrace. Everything takes longer and generally feels like shit now.

    • @TheRealSorav
      @TheRealSorav Місяць тому

      League is sometimes like that too

  • @ducks8063
    @ducks8063 Місяць тому +249

    I've played the game since launch as a kid, I officially quit after years of playing.

    • @ginpachi1
      @ginpachi1 Місяць тому +8

      I’m too old to have been a kid 8 years ago. 👨🏻‍🦳😂
      But, I still play, unfortunately. 😱😅

    • @ozman5466
      @ozman5466 Місяць тому +17

      I feel you. I played it since November 2016 and I quit 3 months ago.

    • @ducks8063
      @ducks8063 Місяць тому

      @@mattymo841 yup

    • @Cushingura
      @Cushingura Місяць тому +3

      Me too. S9 was the final dropplet.
      After reading the latest patch notes, I am certain they want to turn this game into a full blown MOBA. They ruin it intentionally.
      I decided, I only come back to the game, when every single member of Team4 is dismissed.

    • @RedApollo617
      @RedApollo617 Місяць тому +5

      Damn near the same with me been playing since season 2 of OverWatch 1 and I feel like a drug addict when I say I've been 6 months clean of OverWatch and it's done nothing but wonders for my gaming health

  • @mattymo841
    @mattymo841 Місяць тому +326

    During overwatch 1 me and my friends would play every single day missing pretty much 0 days. Literally at school we would just be thinking "Man can I just get this shit over with and go home play overwatch with my boys". Obviously we would have shit games. Loss streaks. Tilt queue sessions and lots of "fuck this game I ain't playing this shit ever again" but next day we all hop back on. As soon as ow2 comes around we just slowly start playing less and less. There was no "I quit" moment we legit just began to not even consider playing the game subconsciously

    • @tbagger5211
      @tbagger5211 Місяць тому +35

      Same here it is just not fun even when I win

    • @mikecook6553
      @mikecook6553 Місяць тому +18

      Oh so true. Use to be able to play 12 hours nonstop all on loose streaks and not even bat an eye. Now i have to force myself to play for an 1 hour. This game is legit horrible now.

    • @cyanpile7874
      @cyanpile7874 Місяць тому +7

      I still play everyday, but it's different now. I have multiple Smurf accounts. I get on comp/quick play to troll and throw. I can't have fun playing the game anymore. I only have fun griefing lobbies these days ☺️

    • @Moneybagzzz
      @Moneybagzzz Місяць тому +3

      Wow so when you were 7 years younger as a person you had enough time to just play a game and not care about wins and losses?
      Sounds like that's more of a you issue and not the game itself because the game mechanically is exactly the same.

    • @jadonsmine1877
      @jadonsmine1877 Місяць тому

      Screw you ​@@cyanpile7874

  • @axell9130
    @axell9130 Місяць тому +347

    6v6 I miss you

    • @leatherhidegaming
      @leatherhidegaming Місяць тому +13

      Just go 4v4 at this point and remove the tanks entirely.

    • @soldado3076
      @soldado3076 Місяць тому +2

      Cry about it

    • @axell9130
      @axell9130 Місяць тому

      @@soldado3076 Jump off blizzards dick lil bro

    • @its_lucky252
      @its_lucky252 Місяць тому

      @@soldado3076waaaaaaa 6v6

    • @howled0
      @howled0 Місяць тому

      i dont. double shield is cancer

  • @harryvpn1462
    @harryvpn1462 Місяць тому +118

    We got a 6v6 marvel hero shooter before blizzard hinted to bringing back 6v6

    • @jadedninny3212
      @jadedninny3212 Місяць тому +21

      Shiiiit we got a 6v6 VALVE game announcement

    • @incediumignis
      @incediumignis Місяць тому +4

      @@jadedninny3212 leaked not announced.

    • @jadedninny3212
      @jadedninny3212 Місяць тому

      @@incediumignis thanks

    • @Coolguysup
      @Coolguysup Місяць тому +8

      Seems like everyone knows 6v6 is better. Even the og team said they tried everything and found 6v6 worked best.

    • @bui3415
      @bui3415 Місяць тому

      Gundam Evolution was 6v6 and it DIED. Everyone was saying OW1 was DEAD when it still had 6v6.

  • @kjbzabrini768
    @kjbzabrini768 Місяць тому +111

    I just don't get why an overwatch classic is so out of pocket to suggest? Is the 6v6 crowd so huge that 5v5 overwatch would essentially die?
    If that happened then there's an even bigger case against 5v5 than we think really

    • @demigurlxd5781
      @demigurlxd5781 Місяць тому +31

      If OW1 still existed I would go play it.

    • @SamPho
      @SamPho Місяць тому +2

      We got WoW Classic, so getting OW Classic isn't out of the realm of possibility.

    • @jerod4036
      @jerod4036 Місяць тому +7

      They know that if they release 6v6 while 5v5 is still out it's going to split the player base. They would then have to manage 2 games when they are already poorly managing the one. It would greatly increase the cost of running the games and it wouldn't bring in many new players aka it won't make them money. From a business standpoint having 6v6 and 5v5 out at the same times is a bad idea. They will have to choose 6v6 or 5v5 and it is unfortunately looking like 5v5 is here to stay. 5v5 is making gobs of money for blizzard and they probably don't want to risk going back to 6v6.

    • @S3nCh4n
      @S3nCh4n Місяць тому +1

      @@jerod4036 they could honestly just add it as an arcade mode and people will be happy enough

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@jerod4036blizzard got millions of dollars and they can't invest in a decent game lmao

  • @KingNicku
    @KingNicku Місяць тому +12

    It’s funny how Blizzard doesn’t want to admit they messed up with 5v5 but were fine with taking the L on PVE

  • @DetectivePikachu37347
    @DetectivePikachu37347 Місяць тому +123

    6v6 will benefit every role by mostly allowing you to play whatever hero you want unlike 5v5.

    • @Damocles450
      @Damocles450 Місяць тому +14

      6v6 will also cure cancer, give you a foot massage and feed your dog!

    • @TSGC16
      @TSGC16 Місяць тому +3

      ​@Damocles450 its true tho. Even in quick play, no matter your rank. You HAVE to play counterswap. Especially as tank

    • @Summonick2
      @Summonick2 Місяць тому +7

      6v6 absolutely did not allow you to play whatever hero you wanted; it was extremely troll in that game; you had an extra person to counter you. Some heroes were actually impossible to play into certain comps. In 5v5 you have significantly more freedom.

    • @ziggy2metalx720
      @ziggy2metalx720 Місяць тому +7

      ⁠​⁠@@Summonick2who told you that lie. 5v5 is garbage. Overwatch 2 has 40 heroes yet you only see about half at all. Most characters ain’t viable in 5v5

    • @ryanolionheart1325
      @ryanolionheart1325 Місяць тому +4

      ​@ziggy2metalx720 facts they even made new off tanks while removing off tank role

  • @MEGAtuned
    @MEGAtuned Місяць тому +29

    I used to play this game with my little sister. It helped us bond during the pandemic as we both played duo tank and lost every game but had SO MUCH FUN doing so… now we can never do that because tanking now is just too stressful for a game that I just want to chill and have fun.

  • @Caulk2meBB
    @Caulk2meBB Місяць тому +64

    I tried playing tank yesterday. Dude opposite of me insta counter swapped everytime he died. Im done with tank

    • @MansterBear
      @MansterBear Місяць тому +14

      Yea I don’t play much tank, but when I play with friends I can’t be support so I just do all which gives me dps/tank.
      It’s got to be the most frustrating online experience. If you go Winston, they instant counter pick on tank and usually a dps goes reaper.
      If you go queen they’re support instantly goes Ana. It’s crazy that you get not just tank counter swaps but almost always dps and/or support swaps too.

    • @firingallcylinders2949
      @firingallcylinders2949 Місяць тому +12

      Not to mention the 20% dps passive. Playing tank right now you just get pounded all game. If the enemy has a hitscan you're basically permanently Discorded all game without Zen even there.

    • @masift1494
      @masift1494 Місяць тому +3

      Yup, that's how my experience was last time I played. So incredibly boring and cringe

    • @Caulk2meBB
      @Caulk2meBB Місяць тому +3

      Yeah man as a doom main I legit get 1 fight before everyone counter swaps. Even if I'm not the reason we won the fight b4

    • @oldsoulbiz3526
      @oldsoulbiz3526 Місяць тому

      I play whatever tank I feel like playing at the time. When I start getting hard countered, my teammates ask me to swap. I respond with "Why? To get counter-swapped again?"

  • @Accuaro
    @Accuaro Місяць тому +15

    Playing OW2 makes me realise that this game has lost most of it's competitive integrity, it's either you demolish the team or get absolutely smashed. That of course is not to mention it feels like tanks can just 1v5 your team or 5v1 to actually kill a tank. So sick of it all..

  • @eventveit4306
    @eventveit4306 Місяць тому +13

    The fact Overwatch STILL can provide enjoyable moments, after multiple years of patches actively reducing the gameplay experience is mind blowing. Shows how incredible the original game idea actually was.
    Such a shame the devs are so disconnected from the actual community they won’t even acknowledge the complaints.

  • @HappyNerd55
    @HappyNerd55 Місяць тому +40

    even in double shield, you could kill the tanks if they missplayed

    • @Ronin-kk4bt
      @Ronin-kk4bt Місяць тому +1

      Exactly! And even then it wasn’t that bad actually I kinda of liked it made you think outside box to try find a way to get passed the enemies defenses what killed it was that stupid bap and brig immortality bullcrap 🤦‍♂️

    • @HappyNerd55
      @HappyNerd55 Місяць тому +2

      and the amount of times i've been chased by a ball or dva with their insane mobility where i cant even kill them because of their health pool, you're better off just accepting your death instead of trying to kill em, big brain game design

  • @reesyloko5741
    @reesyloko5741 Місяць тому +80

    The 5v5 loop we're in
    1-They Buff tanks for 5v5
    2-Everyone focuses the strongest and most vulnerable member on the team the TANK
    3-tank feels terrible
    1-they buff tank again...

    • @virgil7272
      @virgil7272 Місяць тому +5

      You forget every 3 buffs to tank
      1a) tank is OP either supp/dps feels like shit
      2a) supp or dps gets buffed (whichever role didnt have thr most recent passive change)
      3a) supp/dps can now focus the tank
      4a) proceed to step 1

    • @snoogus
      @snoogus Місяць тому +6

      Tanks become unkillable, DPS die statistically more, they buff DPS, healing becomes irrelevant, they buff support again, tank becomes irrelevant again, repeat.

    • @atari9477
      @atari9477 Місяць тому +1

      @@snoogusoh lawd that’s exactly what it is, sounds like duck duck goose from hell 💀

    • @nervkindlen378
      @nervkindlen378 Місяць тому

      As if the tank buffs are that meaningful lol. Staying alive like 1 second longer while heroes like Bastion/Reaper/Sombra are nerfed when it comes to shredding tanks is not a problem... For neither side.

    • @atari9477
      @atari9477 Місяць тому

      @@nervkindlen378 bros really playing, marvel rivals fr

  • @bismuth7730
    @bismuth7730 Місяць тому +65

    I had a vision last night while sleeping. I saw 6v6 Overwatch in late summer. Its coming boys.

  • @aidenmeislitzer7774
    @aidenmeislitzer7774 Місяць тому +25

    I remember watching this on my own, it’s sad to see the way the game has gone and the balancing has failed

  • @kiloknight3494
    @kiloknight3494 Місяць тому +23

    i remember during the beta or whatever it was or maybe it was the tournament and they had test servers up for people who showed up i heard a a lot of streamers defend the switch to 5v5 and now i don't even think those streamers play OW anymore or not nearly as much anymore

  • @Cushingura
    @Cushingura Місяць тому +11

    All the people that say, " you are just hating on the game" just have no arguments. With not a single argument on their side, the only thing left to say for those zombie fanboys is: "you're just a hater"

  • @ozman5466
    @ozman5466 Місяць тому +120

    I saw this video a few days ago. It's exactly why I quit the game 3 months ago. Used to be a tank player, but now I just chill out on Helldivers 2. Less stressful and more fun. IF...IF Team 4 decides to swallow their pride and change the format back to 6v6 or come out with OW Classic, I may reinstall to try it out. As of now, I can't play the hot mess of 5v5 format.

    • @Noobish_Camper55
      @Noobish_Camper55 Місяць тому +5

      HD2 saved me from ramming my head in the wall playing OW2. Just waiting on 6v6 fix... gonna be years but one can hope.

    • @ozman5466
      @ozman5466 Місяць тому +4

      @@Noobish_Camper55 probably will be. by then, i may not even care either.

    • @mop-kun2381
      @mop-kun2381 Місяць тому +8

      it's probably not even up to them
      devs: "uh hey boss we want to change the game back to 6v6, I need like half a dozen guys and a couple of months to do it"
      dipshit exec: "would that make me a lot of fucking money right away ?"
      devs: "No but it would make the game better and in the long run you wou..."
      dipshit execs: "Ah shush not interested. Go back and make me another Kiriko skin"

    • @ozman5466
      @ozman5466 Місяць тому

      @@mop-kun2381 You're probably right. Dipshit executives will never let the format go back to 6v6 because they was instant ROI. Shit management ruined the product.

    • @firingallcylinders2949
      @firingallcylinders2949 Місяць тому

      I just downloaded the HD2 501st skin mod. Running around as a clone is awesome.

  • @fettbub92
    @fettbub92 Місяць тому +109

    Overwatch 2 is to Overwatch what Halo Infinite is to Halo.

    • @TheShaheem123
      @TheShaheem123 Місяць тому +4

      Bruh hasnt player Halo infinite. The only halo game by 343 that was actually good

    • @fettbub92
      @fettbub92 Місяць тому +14

      @@TheShaheem123 was shit when I played it

    • @bfebenja
      @bfebenja Місяць тому +10

      @@fettbub92 Still is, dude is out of his mind on copium.

    • @specimenlarry6068
      @specimenlarry6068 Місяць тому +2

      The game sucks but it is the best 343 game.
      #RemoveSprint

    • @TheShaheem123
      @TheShaheem123 Місяць тому +2

      @@fettbub92 customization and the monitary system is still trash. But everything about gameplay is excellent

  • @eventveit4306
    @eventveit4306 Місяць тому +9

    I’ve been close to quitting before, but the release of this new patch was the final straw for me. I think I’ve been chasing the memory of the original game for the last 3/4 seasons (at least, probably the majority of Ow2’s lifespan), instead of genuinely enjoying the game. With the current state of the game, and the direction it seems to be headed, I genuinely can’t find a reason to play the game anymore.
    R.I.P. Overwatch, you will be missed
    - Avid tank main since Ow1 release

  • @MonkeyDLuffy-lp4qz
    @MonkeyDLuffy-lp4qz Місяць тому +13

    The most unfortunate thing is that there's so many content creators that blindly support 5v5 just bc they think "we can't go back" I genuinely think that it people were less divided about it this balance team I think would reverse it

    • @stokedgrizzly4975
      @stokedgrizzly4975 Місяць тому +2

      Nope fewer of you than them. This UA-cam channel and comment section is an echo chamber that makes it feel like you’re the majority, but you’re not.

    • @commandoch12i5
      @commandoch12i5 Місяць тому +4

      This isn’t an echo chamber. Only a small minority actually wanna take a stand and the rest of the players just bend over and take it. The American Revolution was fought by only 10-15% of the population. Let that sink in.

    • @MonkeyDLuffy-lp4qz
      @MonkeyDLuffy-lp4qz Місяць тому +4

      ​@@stokedgrizzly4975I feel like you didn't really read my comment. I wasn't talking about how many people were on either side. Just that a lot of people are holding a certain opinion bc they're under the belief that "we can't go back" when we most certainly can

    • @absolute-xero7502
      @absolute-xero7502 Місяць тому +3

      @stokedgrizzly4975 An echo chamber would mean we never hear any points from the outside. So far, all the pro 5v5 arguments have been thoroughly debunked. Even the one somewhat valid queue times argument loses relevance once you bring up October 2020.

  • @2-MinuteWarning
    @2-MinuteWarning Місяць тому +53

    I can't for the life of me understand why they can't offer 5v5 and 6v6 game modes...

    • @CruxisAngel954
      @CruxisAngel954 Місяць тому +36

      Enough people would go into the 6v6 mode that it would create queue issues for all the modes.

    • @Apocalypse754
      @Apocalypse754 Місяць тому +34

      Because blizzard knows that 6v6 would generate so many players to play that mode and that tbey would have to admit that 5v5 was inferior

    • @mariorizkallah5383
      @mariorizkallah5383 Місяць тому +1

      There would be so much tank synergy now, they should bring back 6v6

    • @jordanesquivel7604
      @jordanesquivel7604 Місяць тому +8

      Because that would contradict the only reason of Overwatch 2 whole existence

    • @user-fg6mq3dg3d
      @user-fg6mq3dg3d Місяць тому +6

      Everyone would go to 6vs6 and leave 5vs5 like a ghost town

  • @__Jah__
    @__Jah__ Місяць тому +10

    I can barely stomach a game I used to play constantly from the beta when I was in High School through my graduation of college
    I literally only play the game when my friends ask me to, when I used to play ranked anytime I had any free time
    We should literally just make our own; or pray that valve supposed new hero shooter is good, or pray valve fixes tf2 and I can just go back to playing like I did in middle school
    Somehow, miraculously, our salvation ends back up in the hands of Gabe Newell

  • @MarkDavis-pp1kh
    @MarkDavis-pp1kh Місяць тому +5

    I left when did the health change. It’s insane how bad players are awarded.

  • @420skubi
    @420skubi Місяць тому +14

    I hate that im on the outside looking in, hoping they make overwatch fun to me again. Luckily, there are great games to play in the meantime, I guess.

  • @sycom-
    @sycom- Місяць тому +7

    I’m so glad xdefiant and marvel rivals are right around the corner, it’ll be so refreshing to play a game where the devs actually care about their consumers

  • @loganbeach7191
    @loganbeach7191 Місяць тому +26

    played daily since launch of overwatch 1. Thousands of hours in overwatch 1. Hurts my heart that they deleted the game and replaced with this shitstain of a game thats really nothing more than a cash grab. 25 bucks for a skin? GTFOUTTAHERE! I uninstalled and refuse to come back. 6v6 might get me to reinstall but honestly the way they raped this game makes me never want to come back.

    • @chance2326
      @chance2326 Місяць тому +9

      Don’t forget the pve they promised us and the “reason” they wanted to make a second game was because of it(oh wait, they only made it just to make a few extra bucks off the game before it officially dies). They could have done anything else with overwatch to make it better and they did the one thing that made it worse

    • @Zaram45670
      @Zaram45670 Місяць тому +3

      Honestly don’t go back. There are more fun games out there with more care put into them. 😊

  • @LampDoesVideogame
    @LampDoesVideogame Місяць тому +5

    Never really thought about how Brig killed the OWL. It's completely true. No one wanted to sit through 2 years of Goats and owl died.

  • @solarchris3392
    @solarchris3392 Місяць тому +7

    As a GM ow2 tank main who has not once touched 6v6, tanking is a miserable experience more and more each season they try to "buff" the tank role. It doesn't feel rewarding when winning and obviously feels even worse to lose. More and more does it feel like I get punished for punishing another players mistakes

  • @Afternoon_Milk
    @Afternoon_Milk Місяць тому +8

    I hope the development team see these videos and think really hard about the future of the game.
    5v5 < 6v6

  • @ikhalid1418
    @ikhalid1418 Місяць тому +5

    never forget blizzard reported less players in one of 2023 quarters than in the last quarter of ow1.

  • @Jdog14200
    @Jdog14200 Місяць тому +11

    I love playing tank, but stuff like the DPS passive made me it feel so unfun since I either never die or explode in 2 seconds it's so miserable

  • @sycom-
    @sycom- Місяць тому +9

    I remember the days when I could 1v1 literally any tank as tracer, and it was actually a fair fight, I could outplay hog if they were trying to flank, and kill him as tracer, can you imagine trying to do that with hog now, it’s out of the question, it’s so miserable to play kovakks on a giant bullet sponge every game, it’s like when do I get rewarded for my good tracking and skill.

  • @pewnit
    @pewnit Місяць тому +17

    Many such cases. I'm a silver player and my friends are all silver/gold and we've all either left the game completely or heavily reduced our playtime. In a way I would like to thank Aaron Keller, since I just graduated and spent all day playing Overwatch instead of being an adult. Now I'm doing stuff to actually improve myself. This sounds like a joke, but I'm so deadass, it's not even funny.

  • @Anubisonfire
    @Anubisonfire Місяць тому +3

    "BUT QUEUE TIMES!!!" they keep forgetting that the issue with queue times would be resolved with more variety of options to play in a particular role(dps still has the most variety) each time a new tank was introduced there was a noticeable difference in queue times.

    • @bui3415
      @bui3415 Місяць тому

      Yes, the queue times. No one is playing tanks.

    • @Anubisonfire
      @Anubisonfire Місяць тому

      @bui3415 I literally said why and there is data to back that up. Options to play are very minimal in the tank role. The reason you want variety is to have multiple characters be able to synergize that way a person is not forced to pick a character they do not like to play. Which is the problem with the tank role since OW1. The only reason support is played is due to it being broken in OW2 due to the 1 tank format. Otherwise support queue times were as long as tank at times.

  • @absolute-xero7502
    @absolute-xero7502 Місяць тому +22

    Season 9 is like that Homer meme when he is skinny in the front and flabby in the back held together with pins, boogers and a dying dream.
    Front Side
    -New Competitive System
    Back Side
    -Health pools increased
    -Everyone can now auto heal
    -Larger projectile sizes
    -Even more role passives

  • @Raxus001
    @Raxus001 Місяць тому +2

    I was a 5v5 supporter, but I am now against it fully. 6v6 is balance-able

  • @SpaceCowBoyRay
    @SpaceCowBoyRay Місяць тому +6

    I haven't played ranked in almost a month and now slowly not playing the game as much anymore after 8 years.........BRING BACK 6v6!

  • @RikanGG
    @RikanGG Місяць тому +2

    At this point we need to start rolling the consumer outrage to the point where population is so low that they are forced to bring back 6v6

  • @roostergaming3523
    @roostergaming3523 Місяць тому +2

    Yeah the immortality,over tuned supports & double shield wasn't addressed but OW1 dev team stayed true to a core gameplay balance fundamental that was = skills worked the same against every hero

  • @erikrulez17
    @erikrulez17 Місяць тому +3

    just sucks knowing what I originally paid for will never come back, and there's not a damn thing anyone else can do about it..

    • @bui3415
      @bui3415 Місяць тому

      What? Torb armor packs? No role queue? Bastion shield? Hanzo scatter?

  • @Falloutx360a
    @Falloutx360a Місяць тому +19

    For content creators it makes sense why they won’t/can’t fully leave (and Overwatch “killers” will never pull it off because the audience won’t all jump over). For regular players, if you really hate the direction the game has gone in there is no need to keep coming back.

    • @lawrence9713
      @lawrence9713 Місяць тому

      If content creators cannot manage to hold the click count, they maybe have the wrong job

    • @MrBreakdownx
      @MrBreakdownx Місяць тому +3

      Yea players are slowly leaving. Along with content creators saying there going variety or straight up leaving ow.

  • @StrafeY
    @StrafeY Місяць тому +2

    I have quit as of today, I will return only for 6v6, I just cannot fathom how much happier I’ve been by not playing the game. I took a break for a week and it was the happiest I had been with gaming, it sucks but 6v6 is, and was so much better that it’s not even funny how delusional blizzard is rn

  • @JumpsOw
    @JumpsOw Місяць тому +7

    Man I wasn't expecting to see you react to Sprixy, but, I'm glad you did.

  • @Aquarius003
    @Aquarius003 Місяць тому +4

    Yesterday, I had enough of this new patch and uninstalled the game. I've played Overwatch since beta as a 12-year-old on PlayStation. I built a PC to play this game. As a ranked player, there's just not enough I can do as a DPS unless I play a hero I don't enjoy. I enjoy playing projectiles but hitscan do that but better. I am a Masters 4 Genji, yet it feels like I can't play the game anymore. I have to wait out 5-6 abilities to even ult as Genji. I also like playing tank, my favorite tanks are Zarya/Sig which are easily countered by abilities Bap/Kiri/LW can easily counter. I played a game that went on for 25 minutes and the most elims out of that game was 14. At least in the old 2CP maps, your elims would at least be 30+ for the same timeframe. Nothing dies, the most fun I have is when only OW1 characters are played. Rein V Rein with OW1 supports feels sooo much better than OW2 heroes.

  • @technolibra
    @technolibra Місяць тому +3

    you are my fucking spirit animal dude. i came across your channel thinking i was the only one who wanted the old format back and i found a home now lol

  • @gasch75cards4
    @gasch75cards4 Місяць тому +4

    6v6 Marvel Rivals I am coming. I will take a long brake from ow to regenerate my mind

    • @Ronin-kk4bt
      @Ronin-kk4bt Місяць тому +1

      Rivals can’t come fast enough and thank god it’s 6v6

  • @arickhook370
    @arickhook370 Місяць тому +2

    Tank Duo synergy is peak OW. I always ask the question... when/where was the outcry for the format change? I don't remember any from the community. Just 1 day Blizzard was giving an update on the development of OW2 and background gameplay was 5v5 and the dev team were like "btw as you see, OW2 will be 5v5." Hilarious, cause OW2 was just supposed to be PVE ONLY and the PVP gameplay wasn't supposed to change at all.

  • @shyco321utube
    @shyco321utube Місяць тому +2

    Yep i stopped playing almost daily last year and haven't had the urge to play, it's impossible to keep caring when it's not fun anymore.

  • @SpineBreakerZ
    @SpineBreakerZ Місяць тому +1

    The only argument I give for 6v6 is that I don't have fun playing 5v5. Ad a tank I either roll or get rolled. If there's a match going back and forth it's the worst, just who can counterswap faster.

  • @Suicidalsheep
    @Suicidalsheep Місяць тому +10

    Overwatch 2 is what the Netflix adaptation of the Witcher is to the books. Let that sink in.

    • @MetalSam25
      @MetalSam25 Місяць тому +1

      Oof

    • @emma6648
      @emma6648 Місяць тому

      The Witcher sucks in general

  • @DillonMW
    @DillonMW Місяць тому +1

    When so many people move to Rivals once it’s done, they will re release a new version of Overwatch that goes back to 6v6

  • @decialtv
    @decialtv Місяць тому +4

    Nah bruh as a Master Player on Ow1 and Diamond on ow2 5v5 been Hell to me since 5 months

  • @lonelyleague3369
    @lonelyleague3369 Місяць тому +1

    the thing i hate as solo tank is if im playing my doom and i'm a dive hero. how do i go in get a good pick and jump back without getting hit with any cc in the game as a giant man flies around. the one thing i cant stand is when i face a sombra and they run around holding right click and waiting for me to pop up. or a ana holding dart till i hard engage for a dive with my team. or a cass waiting for me to leap in only to get hindered and insta killed. its really hard to bait abilties when they get like 500x more value by spamming it on the tank and holding it till they do someting. its hard to play dive without a full dive comp in ow2 compared to ow1. my personal opinon tho

  • @OneTrickRipper
    @OneTrickRipper Місяць тому +1

    I miss 6v6 as well. I feel like I gave 5v5 a fair shot and it fell embarrassingly short, even with my low expectations. I really miss the tank synergy that OW1 had.

  • @Kootsworth
    @Kootsworth Місяць тому +2

    Even the new ranked system sucks ass and I'm surprised people don't mention it. Hard AF game that you barely carry, EXPECTED WIN +16 points. The actual time it takes to climb ranks now even with a massive winrate is a joke.

    • @neilmallick20
      @neilmallick20 Місяць тому

      its not new lol that's always been there, it's just now it's being shown to you. another samito enjoyer who has no idea what they're talking about except that "the old days were better"

    • @Kootsworth
      @Kootsworth Місяць тому

      @@neilmallick20 You're a dumb cunt, the system used to rank you up faster while on winstreaks, you could rank up two divisions in 5 wins. That's what I'm talking about.
      There's even threads discussing pros on 30+ straight win streaks on new accounts in Diamond lol. Ironically you think you are the one who knows what they're talking about.

  • @meduza93
    @meduza93 Місяць тому +1

    I love how much needs to be changed via balance patches in OW2 just to come up with the same problems. Each patch we are one patch closer to them accepting the fact that 5v5 is always gonna feel shit.

  • @enchandted-ps5226
    @enchandted-ps5226 Місяць тому +11

    I know this just dropped and I haven't watched it yet, but I have been a player since the 2015 beta, peaked top 1 on support with Lúcio, so I got some experience.
    I just can't play the game anymore, it's been my main game for almost a decade but I can't go on when it's clearly deteriorating. It's always ''WE'RE SO BACK'' and ''IT'S SO OVER'' every season and mid season patch, and I'm tired. I want consistency, but I don't know why ow2 it's so weirdly good and bad at the same time. I prefer peak 6v6 over peak 5v5, but man 5v5 isn't easier to balance than 6v6 anymore. We've had 2 years to get a grip and understand everything from the ow2 experience, and it is tragic that activision and microsoft keeps doing layoffs so the new devs can't settle in before everyone gets kicked out again.
    I hate the executives man, ruined all hope we had for the game, current devs are trying so hard to fix it alone, but the executives just can't stop screwing everything up for profit. Hopefully they can magically fix everything over time... I love overwatch

    • @vape42069
      @vape42069 Місяць тому +2

      I mean, it’s really not that hard to listen to a community and use that feedback to improve the game. Stop making excuses for these shit devs lol Its really not that hard to go back to 6v6 and get rid of shit like immos, cc, etc. They have no excuses anymore. The main problem with these devs is that it’s clear they do not play their own game or understand it. I understand employee turnover is a thing but at this point, they’ve had 10 seasons to do SOMETHING right and they are unable to. They are incompetent.

    • @Chazza-01
      @Chazza-01 Місяць тому +2

      Can't blame the executives for everything about OW2. They are the reason for the monetisation, they couldn't care about the balance and formatting and whatnot. The devs have failed, they never understand what makes the game good or bad. The patches have become small and stupid. They bunker down in this 5v5 grave, change stuff that was never an issue in the previous game and add new things that were not needed in the previous game. The OW1 devs didn't understand how to balance either, and they are the reason we are here. Not understanding how to change Brig, Bap, Orisa, Sigma when they have some relatively simple changes you could do to fix them. (Bap immo lasts 1 second, so you have to time it. Orisa, headshot during fortify. Sigma, remove his grasp shield. And Brig I would have to think into). They also never understand why certain metas happened. (Double Shield because of Sustain abilities and high burst healing. And GOATS because of Brig's inspire. But no, they just see "it is called double shield so the shield MUST BE the problem" or "It has 3 tanks 3 supports so we have to FORCE 2-2-2" (which imo the role lock was a good change on a whole, but they could have also addressed the Brig situation too"

    • @SnakeSkinz
      @SnakeSkinz Місяць тому +2

      5v5 format isnt an executive issue. And people need to stop using executives as a crutch for shit decision making by the devs. Bobby Kotick is gone. The format and balancing issues was never a corporate thing to begin with. That was F2P model and monetization. Balance and format is solely on the devs

  • @dragonmasterknight0231
    @dragonmasterknight0231 Місяць тому +2

    There was a game on Hollywood 3rd point where I felt the need to solo ult a hog that had 30% health, and I knew he would just heal and get out. Then I get flamed by 3 on the enemy team for solo death blossoming a low hog and still lose with a throwing mercy. Hog should not out heal reaper damage point blank as he does now.

  • @eddieryan7246
    @eddieryan7246 Місяць тому +3

    I'm one of those leaving players, Rein main (although i haven't been able to play rein in diamond for multiple seasons now.)
    I play with my friends for fun and now that quickplay is also just as bad as ranked I'm just finished. 6v6 is the only way I'd come back cos I miss making plays with my tank buddy

  • @matthewbrears2129
    @matthewbrears2129 Місяць тому +1

    “Tanking feels awful, so to fix it, we’ll make everything feel awful”

  • @mistersir4180
    @mistersir4180 Місяць тому +2

    It’s like when Sam says the first thing bad players need to admit to themselves is ADMIT YOU ARE A BAD PLAYER.
    Blizzard needs to admit Overwatch is a bad game now

  • @iminumst7827
    @iminumst7827 Місяць тому +2

    "I think that was really on the money to be honest with you"
    The guy was obviously a viewer and referenced your viewpoint multiple times.

    • @neilmallick20
      @neilmallick20 Місяць тому

      yeah he repeated samitos points way too verbatim.

    • @toons4934
      @toons4934 Місяць тому

      As a 6v6 pro player, your right, this guy just mimimicked samito. Which is lame but if more and more people did it. We might get 6v6 back but yea this guy was a samito pole rider, you right

  • @VenomOnPC
    @VenomOnPC Місяць тому +1

    I always said since day dot, devoid of any 5v5 versus 6v6 big wig debates, the removal of player borders and the on fire system and medal system and even the little number that popped up next to an elimination on the HUD is borderline braindead decision making. Throw in private profiles and even fucking ranks not being shown in competitive, and you can really begin to question what was actually added to OW2 to make it a different game let alone a better one. Especially when considering how much was lost in the transition. All those cultural OW things that were staple to the game's signature that made it iconic got GUTTED for a fucking half baked battlepass and item ship ripped straight from Fortnite but implemented far more unfairly and shoddy.

  • @FatHeadDave
    @FatHeadDave Місяць тому +3

    I played comp yesterday (low plat)
    It was brain dead
    Maugas just stood still shooting at each other
    Heals spammed hard denying any kills
    No teamwork

  • @megallossauro8681
    @megallossauro8681 Місяць тому +3

    Bro i am main Tank and Main Ball. I pick top 500 and Master 3 and i have a 260 hours in ball and i play since 2018, so i have "experience" to say things. Bro tank today is just awful. I literaly cant play ball because the character is not for 5v5. My team blaming me just because i pick ball. Every match is a sombra hog cass and brig. Baptiste is everywhere with high damage and cure, and immortalylity. Like play Rein is impossible today. One my favorites tank and my old main, is just umplayble. And even i do good play with ball, carry the team and do POGT, i just feel... nothing. Nothing of impact. Everytime is just "tank diff". Or i just unkillable with mauga in queqe play (because in comp i just evaporated). I literally can kill a suport alone with ball today because of the strong cure and more health. In general i feel i am a dad who have to protect and do a lot of things to four babys who can have a minimum of fun when i take all the damage and the negative effects and cc. I literally suffer to other four have fun and "small files times". I just tired. Ow2 is just strange today for my. I think to "aposent" my hampter...

    • @vape42069
      @vape42069 Місяць тому +1

      These devs fail to recognize that 5v5 inherently caused counterpicking since they were so hellbent on making unkillable super tanks. Like for ball, you almost HAVE to play full counters because ball lives forever as a super tank in 5v5, if your team doesn’t pick hard counters. But in ow1 ball was fine because he was killable without having to go full counters. And if the ball had a dva to cover his weaknesses, it was the most rewarding thing when played well together. But still, both tanks were killable no matter what comp was play in 6v6. These devs just straight up braindead and somehow don’t recognize that 😒

    • @megallossauro8681
      @megallossauro8681 Місяць тому

      @@vape42069 yeah. When dont have any counter i literaly carry the match. But one counter turn my life in a hell of not fun

  • @Ogre32890
    @Ogre32890 Місяць тому +2

    It's not that double shield would never be played. I think there's a good chance it would be. Especially with a tank like Sigma there. The difference is without heroes like Brig and Bap it would be punishable with dive.

  • @Flutty_Putty3564
    @Flutty_Putty3564 Місяць тому +6

    heh that sneaky shade tossed at custa lol

    • @absolute-xero7502
      @absolute-xero7502 Місяць тому +1

      Serves him right. Dude is really cringe for bringing politics into this.

  • @Lisa45423
    @Lisa45423 Місяць тому +2

    I uninstalled it, not play until Hog is not immoral.

  • @silverpro8356
    @silverpro8356 Місяць тому +1

    I left just recently. DPS have become too strong with the hitbox buff and the dps passive. Also blizzard admitted to helping bad players climb up the ladder at the expense of good players so i'm out. Match maker is garbage.

  • @AngelBloxx899
    @AngelBloxx899 Місяць тому +1

    I left in April. I stopped playing in February. Game stopped being... Overwatch

  • @DynamicJon
    @DynamicJon Місяць тому

    also right now it really feels like if your tank is having an off game, its almost a guaranteed loss versus when there was two tanks you could balance out a bad tank with a decent or good tank - its just way more pressure on tank these days since its just one and its not enoyable

  • @lavy3439
    @lavy3439 Місяць тому +1

    Thousands of hours, consistent GM player since OW1, quit the game in OW2 szn 8 because blizzard has destroyed all I loved.

  • @nim7293
    @nim7293 Місяць тому

    drink everytime samito says “right” pass out in 3 minutes

  • @GDKiba
    @GDKiba Місяць тому

    I love it when people say DPS has more agency in 5v5 when there were 6 killable targets in 6v6 and only 4 now in 5v5 💔

  • @nev5817
    @nev5817 Місяць тому +1

    6v6 was fun, challenging and a team play game that allowed people to play any way they really wanted and still find a way to make it work. 5v5 is just... tiring and its sad that people dont feel like they're having fun anymore (myself included) since its literally counterwatch. Hope they change it back and take away the passives completely, and you know what bring 2cp back too fuck it

  • @sycom-
    @sycom- Місяць тому +1

    i knew from season 1 of ow2, that the game was inferior, i was so disappointed when they released ow2 as an upgrade to ow1 instead of a whole new game, i guarantee they knew that ow2 was gonna flop, so instead of keeping up the live servers of ow1, they force you on the worse game, which i didn't pay for btw, i paid for 6v6 ow, its almost fraud the way they forced the new format onto players, they knew how bad it would have looked when the majority of the player base switched back to ow1, and the "new game" that they extensively hyped up was shown no remorse.

  • @notoriousmike3307
    @notoriousmike3307 Місяць тому +1

    Tbh, people arguing that 5v5 is better are only doing it cuz kiri is their fav character

    • @Ronin-kk4bt
      @Ronin-kk4bt Місяць тому +1

      Hahahaha I can see that🤣👏

    • @notoriousmike3307
      @notoriousmike3307 Місяць тому +1

      @@Ronin-kk4bt I mean think about it. Who's the only ones NOT complaining about the game? Kiri players, because shes always GOD DAMN BROKEN

  • @wonderofu1603
    @wonderofu1603 Місяць тому +1

    I left this season too, i didnt even finish the bp i bought with leftover coins. This game became too frustrating to play, i cant play ONE game without feeling annoyed. feel much better when im not playing it

  • @dhaneshravin1356
    @dhaneshravin1356 Місяць тому

    Oh man, i really missed this game, its been more than 2 years i left this game.

  • @matoiyomi_0104
    @matoiyomi_0104 Місяць тому

    It's crazy how when my buddy and I log in we go to open queue and we default to 2 Tank 1 DPS 2 Supports and the game felt a lot more fun with out combos and playstyle.

  • @WowSuchGaming
    @WowSuchGaming Місяць тому +3

    Worst balance team in gaming history? No you say that because you dont play anything else. DBD has it beat. You also celebrated 5v5 purely for double shields. Even berated me for you being a contrarion saying double shields is better than a meta in ow2. You gotta stop being so negative

    • @th3comb1ne13
      @th3comb1ne13 28 днів тому

      So what’s your point? 5v5 sucks compared to 6v6. Being “negative” is what got blizzard to revert the horrible ranked system they implemented. Stop trying to look at the game through rose tinted glasses. The game is overall worse now and being “positive” will not fix that.

  • @omaralqahtani270
    @omaralqahtani270 Місяць тому

    I have been missing level borders + showing rank icons in matches soo freaking much

  • @emmanuelperez5741
    @emmanuelperez5741 Місяць тому

    I can't tell u how many times I've felt like crap, like I just don't know what to do. So many times where the sec I get near the obj I just get targeted by everyone and get forced out from doing anything. Where I hit and hit and hit enemies and just feel like I'm only feeding support ults. It's so weird to be in a place where everyone unilaterally says tanks explode but also nobody dies. It's just such a weird thing to be on both ends of the spectrum ( ´_ゝ`)

  • @jonathankigozi3373
    @jonathankigozi3373 Місяць тому +1

    OW question, I also feel like 6v6 would help and reduce the need for the DPS passive. My question is, would the DPS passive be better or worse if rather than doing a healing reduction on targets, it did a small life steal? Reaper and Mirror watch tracer showed life steal can be good but not broken

    • @jonathankigozi3373
      @jonathankigozi3373 Місяць тому +1

      To go on, tanks should still receive a general cc reduction and if anything the healing reduction should apply to supports only when targeted since they can easily self heal

  • @DarthCookieOW
    @DarthCookieOW Місяць тому

    As a Support (or rather primarily Ana player), the game feels horrible now. It is literally a coinflip of if you have the better DPS or the enemy. And if your Tank is giga feeding or not.
    It literally doesn't matter if I sweat my ass of and play like ML7 or if I just fuck around and play like a Gold player with a controller, it doesn't change the outcome of the game at all. Literal coinflip.
    Heck, I even get more heals on Zen just because he has free 100% orb uptime. While solely focusing on sniping people.

  • @virgil7272
    @virgil7272 Місяць тому +1

    The 5v5 defenders will never admit it because the 5v5 content creators do not want to risk harming their relationship with Blizz. Their fans will not admit it bcuz then theyll have to admit they listen to essentially Blizzard shills and its "not cool" to be a fan of a shill

  • @MofoMan2000
    @MofoMan2000 Місяць тому

    I went into OW2 5v5 with an open mind. Within six months, I had stopped queuing tank entirely and hated 5v5. I'm glad a lot of other people have hopped on this train too.

    • @bui3415
      @bui3415 Місяць тому

      Mercy avatar lol

  • @Zachjk123
    @Zachjk123 Місяць тому

    They suspended me from voice chat recently, i didn’t know why at all… So I contacted support and asked why… They pulled up a list of sentences I had typed, several of which were positive sentences… not a single “curse” word… people just report you if you do better than them in the game, and then the games bots ban you while the staff overlooks it

    • @Zachjk123
      @Zachjk123 Місяць тому

      It’s just ridiculous, one of the listed words was “please don’t LW” and i said it BECAUSE THE LIFEWEAVER WAS GRIPPING ME FOR NO REASON 😂😂 it’s just ridiculous, they’ve gone full lazy mode with letting the bots do everything

  • @BOOMbear214
    @BOOMbear214 Місяць тому

    Omg, listening to Samito do the classic 5v5 gaslight felt so surreal to me. 20:40 😂

  • @davidlugo7889
    @davidlugo7889 Місяць тому +1

    I do thank you for being the voice for us, it really is a problem and I hope you don’t stop until they do something

  • @mistersir4180
    @mistersir4180 Місяць тому +2

    I understand going back to 6v6 is admitting OW2 is a failure however at this point ITS ALREADY FAILING !!!!!!

    • @bui3415
      @bui3415 Місяць тому

      It failed what it was going to deliver. PVE. That was cancelled already. The game however is doing fine. Idk where Samito is getting his statistics but its actually been growing.

  • @andrewbowman6821
    @andrewbowman6821 Місяць тому +1

    Bring back player borders, bring back 6v6, bring back LFGs, bring back team play, bring back fun to our "competitive" game

  • @SmallishBean
    @SmallishBean Місяць тому +1

    I wonder how 6v6 would go with mauga

  • @organicdog5648
    @organicdog5648 Місяць тому

    It's so depressing how much hope and fun I had for overwatch regardless of how disgusting and corrupt Blizzard as a company was. I played as soon as it OW1 came out on PlayStation4 in 2016. Took a little break and came back on PC around 2019 and had a BLAST one tricking tank. I sucked at aiming, so I tried to master Reinhardt, Winston, and Ball.
    Everyday, I tried my best to get better at positioning, using my cooldowns, and ONLY solo queueing so I could learn from my mistakes and never blame my friends. I climbed all the way from Low Silver to High Master in a matter of 2 years. As soon as OW2 said they would be removing a tank, but making the tank super strong and powerful, I had so much hope that I would be dominating the field with Reinhardt because I had mastered the aggressive playstyle of pinning in, forcing cooldowns, waiting for my team to regroup and then swinging that big ass rein c**k on the floor.
    But I lost all respect for Overwatch and was so disappointed in what the game has become. What used to be a game that I enjoyed playing competitively has now because annoying and after an hour or two I have to log off and take a couple days off. Quickplay is the only way now. I've given up my dreams of earning top 500 on tank because it's just not fun anymore. I hate it now.

  • @sloth-d3752
    @sloth-d3752 Місяць тому +1

    Eyy, Sprixy! I like this guy. Great mention. 🤙

  • @CHARRNAGE
    @CHARRNAGE Місяць тому

    I stopped playing about a year ago, and since leaving my gaming experience elsewhere has been 100x better. I actually enjoy gaming again.