So fun fact about that Xenon guy, he got quite famous in the tf2 community for being a closet cheater and after a while he quit tf2 entirely after he and his friends got embarassed and stomped in 5v5 tf2 competitive, a year later and he’s 5 stacking with all of his friends and cheating in another 5v5 shooter Some things never change Edit: fellas this was just something i thought from a first glance, yet there is a war in the replies
I don't think it's him as it doesn't have those things over some of the letters which he had in every vid voro did on the guy, could be he got rid of them but I drought it
@@demon-hunter1498 I mean, he does have the È in there, but this looks like a U.S. server, which I don't think xenon would even be in, and the names of his team don't match those of his cheating friends in tf2. Could be different aliases, could be new people as well. Which makes me think its just an impersonator or someone who also thought xenon would be a cool name. I've met a few NaCl's in my time of gaming. So I wouldn't be shocked if this mercy isn't xenon and/or hasn't even heard of the "MGE Lord" himself.
We went up against two separate 5 stack cheating/boosting teams in A ROW. Both using Zarya, Mercy Zeny, Soldier and Mei. The Zeny would snap Purple Orb whoever Zarya was locked onto. Mei would perfectly lock people in, an aim assist would always put her wall directly behind whoever she was targeted on. Completely walked all over us IN A QUICK PLAY match. Disgusting.
meanwhile i got perma banned for saying "moria stop sucking me off im having a hanzo 1v1" (got screenshots thats what i actually got banned for). Yere blizzerd, im the reason ur game is failing so ban me and not thoes guys.
@@KaigaiProject I'm sure it happened in QP. I'm sick of accusing everybody because so many cheat nowadays it's impossible to tell! I feel every game I play, there is almost always that one person who seems suspicious. Earlier yesterday, played against an Ashe and they were playing on Mouse in QP but looked like they had some sort of Aim Assist. Which..well, obviously isn't on M&K!
@@SmolLoafyyea it’s happening in QP, I tried to play 5 games that’s it 5 games, 2 of them were ddos, 1 had a blatant cheating solider, the 4th game had a widow/Ashe spin bot, then the 5th game there was a hanzo I was suspicious of mainly due to playing games with cheaters before I was expecting it. This game is a joke definitely not reinstalling it for a while
When the Mercy AFK'd the Pharah turned around to look at them as if to check on them. It's like the Pharah heard something went wrong with the cheats or something.
@@swerve589no way bots that can actually play like that is insane never heard of that not trying to come off as if your lying that’s just actually wack that they would inject actual cheating bots that auto heal and shit like that and can track teammates to heal with Ana gun 💀💀💀
@ Look up a video of Redshell. It’s something cheater ai in the title. But if you don’t want to watch, I’ll briefly summarize it. There was a guy on his team cheating. He was playing Rein and he created an ai to follow him around. It was a Mccree with aim bot that followed the Rein. The guy even ended up coming to Redshell’s stream telling him that he created it. That was years ago on OW 1. So I wouldn’t be surprised now that there’ll be hacks and cheats like that lol.
@@number0017 I get the idea but they attempted to mimic mid-high rank mercy plays and failed a lot tho which makes me doubt theyre a bot. Like at 4:10 the attempt rez off the map which ended up with them almost falling off with no rez, then saving themselves, then rezzing and getting immediately smoked by a Cass. A bot woulda just left the fight because even the bots have better game sense than to rez in front of a two tap dps
@@number0017 That reminds me of back in overwatch 1 there was those AI/bot accounts in matches. Most were like mercy pockets for the dps (who owned the bot) and then there was some bots that played as dps and were CRAZY to watch, I think there is still those videos about them but I can't remember from who
Βlizzard's anti-cheat system went straight to the trash can...or straight up murder itself. Imagine how many cheaters there are in OW2 that EVEN an A.I. cannot haddle this sh!t. 🤣🤣🤣
@@hypertekextinction7886 They have it but if you want it to detect live game, all u can do is just put your hands Together and pray or wish that they detect it. Because it so rare to see they got banned live in game These days, its either you draw the game, or have to handle those sweaty player who just like being carried by a cheater and pocket the cheater hard for some reason
Blizzard “bans” don’t even do anything it’s account bans so these cheaters just load up another account, blizzard ain’t tough enough to hardware ban people
Call me Ron Swanson the way I’d be throwing my game away. A whole ass 5 stack of cheaters… what in the unholy fuck am I supposed to do? 😭 I hate it here
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 I wanna laugh but I kinda can’t because it’s literally not funny. The fact that we even have to say it is though 🤷🏽♂️ p.s I’m a little zooted
@@skittykittylol Personally I love that she’s coming back when it’s for a great cause, I love to support cancer research; but I use my trap card of “people are actually bitching because they spent hundreds and thousands of dollars on Pink Mercy, then had the audacity to blame Blizzard as if BCRF doesn’t own Pink Mercy!” 😂😭 Longest Trap Card of my life but in all serious even Pink Mercy can’t satiate some players 🤷🏽♂️
@@bluefaygox23 I agree 100%, I am very happy she’s returning and the cause she’s supporting. I also understand that the devs aren’t just sitting around twiddling their thumbs, but all this cheating and now the server lag at the beginning of the season is making it hard to stay positive. So although most people do take it too far with their whining, I understand where they’re coming from
I don’t even get how…. Just 2 to 3 months ago, Overwatch did barely have any cheaters and the game was considered as one of the best games when it came to stopping cheating. Now it’s an epidemic and you get cheaters in 1/5 of all games you play
@@tripanzoEver since it became Free to Play, the amount of cheaters have increased significantly. Before people had to pay 40 bucks and cheat only to get banned and have to repeat the process (unless they had console)
@@tripanzo significant real-time anti-cheat detection systems cost $$$ to make & maintain. Even ones developed in-house. The game going F2P was a guaranteed death sentence for both whatever anti-cheat systems they had previously + the game becoming a cheater haven.
Tf2's problem is bots, not cheaters, malicious people create tens of bots that shoot everything on sight. Also the bot owners comitted actual crimes in real life like emitting false reports to the police and doxxing. Just raising awareness here.
We should make a pact among all the hero shooter communities experiencing bots and hackers - Team Fortress 2, Overwatch 2, PvZ Garden Warfare 2 and Star Wars Battlefront 2
I realised almost as soon as I started playing OW2 that I subconsciously camera swing with Rein, as it's what I've done with every melee weapon in any first person game that has one. To see this 'Masters' Rein not do that is embarrassing, but also makes me feel a little better about my own skills
Its insane that you can cheat on pharah now, that would be so much harder to detect than a hitscan character. The fact that the cheat seems to be working better on pharah than it is on the widow is also insane
I think the Pharah is a slightly better player due to their movement and everything. The widow/bastion had terrible positioning and was constantly caught out and killed.
@@eagerinspirit I absolutely doubt the widow was gold, did you see how she was playing bastion the back half of the game? Widow can just be carried by aim alone as positioning is less important if you headshot every shot. Honestly everyone except for the pharah seemed like bots...
I slowed down the video at a part with the Ana, and I saw two things. 1. At 24:24, the Ana was aiming at the Sojourn and the Pharah got in the way, then fired like it was going to hit the Sojourn, making it seem as it was intended to hit the Pharah instead of Sojourn. 2. At 24:31, AT THE EXACT MOMENT when the Mercy died, the Ana directly started to aim to heal the Pharah (Not the Sigma) that was low on health, as if they had to focus on healing the Pharah when she got low, then went directly to healing the team afterward as usual.
@@Krillinberizzlin you'd be surprised the amount of cheaters in quick play. I guess it's better than screwing people out of their ranked games but when your super stoned trying to have fun it kinda sucks
@@Krillinberizzlin You have to understand the software for these cheats are somewhat complicated and the people using them have 2 braincells. They have to play a quickplay game to make sure they have the settings configured right and know how everything works before queueing ranked lmao
25:27 "Do you know how difficult those sharts are to hit?" I giggled too much at this. Please Flats, tell us more about how difficult those sharts are to hit.
Im not feeling well, my throat hurts so much. This video is making my mood feel so much better and I dont feel like total shit. Thank you so much for being you Flats, and side note, I also love the community. You are very kind and so funny! Thank you for being here and fostering a safe place❤
A five stack is crazy. I've recently played against someone who was getting rolled bad 0-12 missing everything then all of a student they started hitting all their shots and getting kills.
Here's an interesting story. I was playing a match on the Creator Custom Arcade, and one of our teammates suddenly..got kicked out? We waited, and we never got another teammate, and I stated that we're playing a 5v4 in Match Chat and a large conversation was going on, until suddenly- ..the guy who was on our team sent a message. Although, he was on a DIFFERENT MAP. He was playing on Oasis, while me and my pal were still in out game of Junkertown in a permanent 4v5. Oddly enough, the guy who went to Oasis for some unknown reason, we could all send messages back and forth between each other in Match Chat, and we were never getting a new teammate to backfill the 4v5. That, and that guy was in a match by himself. Though the match WAS playing. He was playing a 1v0, all alone, and by the time his match ended, he won. Meanwhile at the same time, my team in Junkertown lost the 4v5, which only makes sense.
@@RiptydeKChate to burst your bubble but that seems to have been a long term bug, I get it every time I log in multiple times in a row without reporting anyone. They also ban cheaters in waves which explain why they're all allowed to roam free for a while, to stop people at the source and hopefully make the people who sell the cheats get bombarded with refunds
Something I've noticed about cheaters as well, most often it seems like they have an auto-melee once their targeted enemy is within a certain distance of them, likely a cheat to try ensure they finish off enemies as they aimbot shoot and run towards them. At about 35:22 and the seconds after the tank he tried meleeing the Bap when he was close, then tried meleeing the Mercy as she flies past. Idk about you but that reaction time seems a liiiiiittle bit fast considering the time it'd take to realise then react by pressing the melee button. He just notably presses it at almost every time someone comes within range, and maybe also if they are low enough health, even though he tries when they're at least above 25%
Finally people are waking up and realizing how infested the game is and how many types of cheaters there are for every hero even tanks! Been calling them out for months!!! These cheaters abuse the report system in the “inappropriate communication” to silence and permanently close accounts of people that call them out! Im glad this is finally coming to light! Been telling people in VC for so long! Most people are not able to recognize the difference and how to catch them! Thank you flats for raising the awareness to most players!
Good to know, I'm going to have to stop making comments in chat. I've tried to give them a chance by merely saying things like "Hey Cree, maybe turn that off"? I guess I'll stop doing that (and YES, I will always call that character Cree and won't stop as that's his name, not Cassidy.)
I played against people like this. They go Winston and just dive anyone who's able to target the Pharmercy. Pretty similar picks if not SPOT on. It's always Winston, Pharah, A sniper (Widow or Hanzo), Mercy, and an Ana. Seems like they're using this meta to boost. It's always the Mercy talking the most and in denial of the actual rank they're placed in
it feels like r6 and overwatch are following the same trends. a recent update that brought in a lot of players, then a new season with no content and cheaters like crazy
3:31 [looks into the camera like in the office] 6:10 flats screeches "HE IIIIIS" at a frequency that can only be heard by animals and small children 28:22 and the wall never stood a chance.... 45:18 Sigma: "WHAT?!"
The mercy was 100% cheating. At 20:20 she switches her beam from damage boost to healing. Common aimbot hotkeys are mouse 2 + mouse 1. So when she was switching to heal beam, she was already holding mouse 2 for a fraction of a second. This made her camera start moving to the nearest enemy.
The rock at 28:55 Is real funny to me cuz ive had a rock IN GAME and in replay literaly go straight through an enemy tank, like literaly i threw that shit CENTER MASS, tank literaly had nowhere to go but back and that shit just went straight through 😭
I am starting to understand why climbing is so hard now. If all the really terrible players are cheating and playing in Masters then all the good players get knocked down a rank or two... yeah that makes sense.
i mean, climbing is actually still rleatively easy if you play the right heroes. even when theres a cheater in the enemy team,because theyre just sht and as soon as your team adapts, you can win it. but in this case, we just had no chance, because there was nothing you could do against the Pharah. I think he had like 70 elims in the end
Not really how it works. Games with cheaters vs. without is still very low. Yes there are a lot of cheaters, but not to the point that impacts whole ranks in a significant way.
@n3rokn1ght I'm on console, and I've been in gold for a few seasons. I can say with confidence that my aim is a large chunk of the problem, but the amount of full blown throwers I get for Randoms actually makes it feel impossible when I am doing my job. I'm not saying I have above gold aim, but I am saying that even if I did, it wouldn't recoup my mr from every game teammates literally give up.
Yup…this game feels so awful and not fun and I felt like it was overnight I started seeing cheaters be more blatant and our experience went from not great…to worse…. It’s honestly gross that they don’t seem to care cause I think the cuts to OW were a bit more drastic than we could see, especially to their QA and security teams. I am also wondering since Microsoft took over blizzard, it drew more attention to their products and they could see all the “openings” in their company and took advantage that.
I mean I have been called a cheater before and I said wtf are you on about. Upon checking the replay I insta snapped to a tracers head with a 90 degree flick, even in 0,01 speed it was a instant flick. It was insane lol.
@@bleh-wk8pn that I literally did, after I hit that shot I stood still contemplating what I had just done. I knew it was a good shot. I just didn't know it was literally instant.
i just recently started watching your videos and i rly love your content. you’re so funny and i love your advice videos, i think im slowly learning to play better. but overwatch is still very frustrating lol. i rly liked your video where you were playing as widow and you put a ‘?’ in chat every time you got a kill. thats something i’d do lol but yeah man you’re great!!! keep up the good work! :)
As much as this may be a hot take... I feel like the cheating issue is very much a side effect of the game being in a 'Free-To-Play' model in that there really isn't any financial repercussions on any of them when they get caught. Games like Warzone, Fortnite and Halo: Infinite have similar issues because they all have pretty bad cheater problems and they have an anti cheat that's really not great. The only way the infection ends is if you start to hurt the wallet in ways that's not financially worth it
100% I feel like putting a 10$/20$ price tag on it for future accounts could help with some of it because obviously what they are doing at the moment isn't working.
@@TheGreatMaou ive always said, whenever a game goes F2P the amount of cheaters go up drastically because if an account gets banned, 5 mins later your up and running with a new account and you dont have to pay a penny/cent, it was also a big fk you to players like me who BROUGHT the game and iirc we didnt get any rewards for actually having the game before it went F2P
Destiny 2 Had a huge cheater issue, and they 100% helped it by making Trials (Hardcore PVP mode) locked behind owning the most recent expansion. When it got made free to play, cheating was awful, now its not too too bad. Free to Play games will always have a cheater issue, and i think its not unreasonable to make accounts 10 or 20 dollars to prevent it, so long as the 10/20 dollars also gets you skins and stuff, so everyone doesnt fork over 20 bucks for pretty much nothing
@@TheGreatMaou I don't really think it would help. Tons of cheaters play on stolen accounts that they buy for a couple dollars especially with skins. The best example is cs 2. It has a prime status upgrade that costs around 10 dollars. And trust me, it doesn't stop cheaters:)
@@TheGreatMaou Oh, and one more thing!!! They are paying for cheats usually a heavy amount of dollars, so I dont really think that they would care about buying accounts :) The cheap ones costs 10/20 dollars a month. Do you think they would care about losing an account ones a month? Plus I'm hundred percent sure, that all of them have mains, that they keep clean Valorant is actually in a good position for a free to play game. It has cheaters, of course, but every cheater I've met in comp, was banned during the game. Sooo, probably, just improve anticheatz is the actual answer
After watching so much OW2 content I wanted to see how bad it was myself but whatever captcha Blizzard uses to detect humans just straight up failed at least five times
This just in from blizzard: .... thank you for that moment of silence blizzard. back to you flats But for real Flats needs to get a sponsor from just for men cus of the amount of grey hairs he is gonna get from watching these videos LOL
You know I’ve been watching flats along time and I always love his cheater videos but always respected that he didn’t wanna make to much so that they wouldn’t get the clout that those cheaters are looking for. But damn when it’s this bad to where my mans can’t even play the game I completely understand
Was in a discord server (before I got found out and kicked) where people were claiming that they can unban accounts. I didn't have any banned accounts so I couldn't test their claims, but that may be a reason we are seeing the sharp increase of cheaters these last few months.
Could be just scammers to be fair. You can see that on twitter alot were there are bots running rampant on threats were people talk about how they got unfairly banned by the awful blizzard bot, trying to advertise various instagram accs that they claimed helped them getting their accs unbanned. Never trust claims like these. It's super unlikely and not worth the risk.
It happened brother's and sisters, the day of reckoning is upon us, we prophesied this day in flats comments for like a week or two and here it is, five stack cheaters
This is why people are leaving overwatch. The devs don’t care about their game they want it to die so badly. Flats if I were you, find a new game and find it fast
Flats makes gobs and gobs of money because of this broken game. I don't think he'll ever even think about quitting or promoting overwatch, no matter how bad it gets. Flats wants to get paid, not help gamers have a more fun game lol
@@marktaylor3290 I have no issue with the money portion especially in this day and age. Morality wise no way is this honorable and mentally good for any of the streamers
The devs aren't the ones making the decisions, if anything, I'd say the actual developers and cosmetics team are the only things holding this huge web of terrible corporate decisions together
@@marktaylor3290He has talked about wanting to do more variety and maybe suggested that OW isn’t going to work long term, and I’m not cynical enough to believe that that was a PsyOp meant to drive engagement lol
Like the dead Internet theory, bots talking to bots, how much "cheater vs cheater" do people think you can endure before you just never touch the game again
The state of this game is truly disheartening. Cheaters, DDOS's and truly toxic people least from these videos, other creators videos and my experience on xbox and PlayStation.
Ive played against cold the tank forsure in season 11, diamond 3supp and it was a plat 1-diamond 1 game, id have to check to see if its the same dps but i honestly feel like no solo players should ever get matched against a 5 stack even if its a narrow group, the amount of games at the end of season 10 and now at the beginning of season 11 that ive faced 5stacks as a solo player is just stupid, ill be the only one in voice on my team so its just a hard diff at that point cause of the lack of communication
They need to hit the ban wave soon before it’s too late. This is sad for a game that has “1 million” players. 😂 I’ve started telling friends we should go play something else. Might even go back to paladins at this rate. 😂
I bet these guys have cheat-based digs at each other. "Haha, Jimmy got the wish version in this game too." I'm getting heart palpitations from the amount of pity I have for these pathetic souls.
So fun fact about that Xenon guy, he got quite famous in the tf2 community for being a closet cheater and after a while he quit tf2 entirely after he and his friends got embarassed and stomped in 5v5 tf2 competitive, a year later and he’s 5 stacking with all of his friends and cheating in another 5v5 shooter
Some things never change
Edit: fellas this was just something i thought from a first glance, yet there is a war in the replies
I knew the name looked familiar, but it could also be an impersonator. Plus I feel like xenon would have much more game sense than this mercy
@@NaCl_Delirium true, but the vorobey vid proved he has zero gamesense lol
So they really are losers irl who have nothing going on in their lives. Good to know.
I don't think it's him as it doesn't have those things over some of the letters which he had in every vid voro did on the guy, could be he got rid of them but I drought it
@@demon-hunter1498 I mean, he does have the È in there, but this looks like a U.S. server, which I don't think xenon would even be in, and the names of his team don't match those of his cheating friends in tf2. Could be different aliases, could be new people as well. Which makes me think its just an impersonator or someone who also thought xenon would be a cool name. I've met a few NaCl's in my time of gaming. So I wouldn't be shocked if this mercy isn't xenon and/or hasn't even heard of the "MGE Lord" himself.
I never in my 7 years of playing this game I thought I’d see not only a full stack of cheaters but a winton/rein+mercy cheat
i get the Mercy cuz pistol but my god Winton and Rein? how can you miss with them?!
@@SanderTheCockatoo They probably think "I don't want to miss my firestrike and Winston's charge shot anymore" or something like that
We went up against two separate 5 stack cheating/boosting teams in A ROW. Both using Zarya, Mercy Zeny, Soldier and Mei. The Zeny would snap Purple Orb whoever Zarya was locked onto. Mei would perfectly lock people in, an aim assist would always put her wall directly behind whoever she was targeted on.
Completely walked all over us IN A QUICK PLAY match.
Disgusting.
EU and ME servers for console have five stacks of ximmers😢
It was so bad last season 😫
The state of the game is insane. I'm seeing cheaters every day now and DDOS game servers crashing the game.
meanwhile i got perma banned for saying "moria stop sucking me off im having a hanzo 1v1" (got screenshots thats what i actually got banned for). Yere blizzerd, im the reason ur game is failing so ban me and not thoes guys.
It’s insane to me this is happening even in lobbies as low as Gold
@@KaigaiProject I'm sure it happened in QP. I'm sick of accusing everybody because so many cheat nowadays it's impossible to tell! I feel every game I play, there is almost always that one person who seems suspicious.
Earlier yesterday, played against an Ashe and they were playing on Mouse in QP but looked like they had some sort of Aim Assist. Which..well, obviously isn't on M&K!
@@SmolLoafyyea it’s happening in QP, I tried to play 5 games that’s it 5 games, 2 of them were ddos, 1 had a blatant cheating solider, the 4th game had a widow/Ashe spin bot, then the 5th game there was a hanzo I was suspicious of mainly due to playing games with cheaters before I was expecting it.
This game is a joke definitely not reinstalling it for a while
I hadn't played comp in years. Literally the first game I queued into had an obvious DDOSer.
When the Mercy AFK'd the Pharah turned around to look at them as if to check on them. It's like the Pharah heard something went wrong with the cheats or something.
And the mercy’s NPA/where her crosshairs would be switched exactly to the point in the middle of the healing beam icon.
I felt like both dps and tank are real players and the supports are bots.
@@swerve589no way bots that can actually play like that is insane never heard of that not trying to come off as if your lying that’s just actually wack that they would inject actual cheating bots that auto heal and shit like that and can track teammates to heal with Ana gun 💀💀💀
@ Look up a video of Redshell. It’s something cheater ai in the title. But if you don’t want to watch, I’ll briefly summarize it. There was a guy on his team cheating. He was playing Rein and he created an ai to follow him around. It was a Mccree with aim bot that followed the Rein. The guy even ended up coming to Redshell’s stream telling him that he created it. That was years ago on OW 1. So I wouldn’t be surprised now that there’ll be hacks and cheats like that lol.
How the hell can you be so bad at mercy you need an aimbot for your beam?
I feel like even people who play overwatch as their first fps game can finely play on a mercy after 5-6 games. At least track teammates
It's probably an actual bot Mercy.
I been seen many Mercy that have similar behaviors lately.
@@number0017 I get the idea but they attempted to mimic mid-high rank mercy plays and failed a lot tho which makes me doubt theyre a bot. Like at 4:10 the attempt rez off the map which ended up with them almost falling off with no rez, then saving themselves, then rezzing and getting immediately smoked by a Cass. A bot woulda just left the fight because even the bots have better game sense than to rez in front of a two tap dps
@@number0017 That reminds me of back in overwatch 1 there was those AI/bot accounts in matches. Most were like mercy pockets for the dps (who owned the bot) and then there was some bots that played as dps and were CRAZY to watch, I think there is still those videos about them but I can't remember from who
@@number0017TBH I wondered if both the Ana and Mercy were bots.
Anyone else notice the sleep on the Cass at 9:28 actually perfectly stops on the Sojourn through the wall??
WAIT HOLY SHT YOURE RIGHT
BRUH 🤣
What the fuck it actually did. there's no way that's a coincidence
DUDE YOU'RE RIGHT
....Oh my god
Βlizzard's anti-cheat system went straight to the trash can...or straight up murder itself. Imagine how many cheaters there are in OW2 that EVEN an A.I. cannot haddle this sh!t. 🤣🤣🤣
They have an anticheat?
Blizzard needs to fix this or the game ends up in my trash can tbh
@@hypertekextinction7886 Τhat's the true question. 🤣🤣🤣
@@hypertekextinction7886 They have it but if you want it to detect live game, all u can do is just put your hands Together and pray or wish that they detect it. Because it so rare to see they got banned live in game
These days, its either you draw the game, or have to handle those sweaty player who just like being carried by a cheater and pocket the cheater hard for some reason
Blizzard “bans” don’t even do anything it’s account bans so these cheaters just load up another account, blizzard ain’t tough enough to hardware ban people
Call me Ron Swanson the way I’d be throwing my game away. A whole ass 5 stack of cheaters… what in the unholy fuck am I supposed to do? 😭 I hate it here
Probably why they brought Pink Mercy back, to try and satiate the masses 😭
@@skittykittylolpeople are just stealing that too.
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 I wanna laugh but I kinda can’t because it’s literally not funny. The fact that we even have to say it is though 🤷🏽♂️ p.s I’m a little zooted
@@skittykittylol Personally I love that she’s coming back when it’s for a great cause, I love to support cancer research; but I use my trap card of “people are actually bitching because they spent hundreds and thousands of dollars on Pink Mercy, then had the audacity to blame Blizzard as if BCRF doesn’t own Pink Mercy!” 😂😭
Longest Trap Card of my life but in all serious even Pink Mercy can’t satiate some players 🤷🏽♂️
@@bluefaygox23 I agree 100%, I am very happy she’s returning and the cause she’s supporting. I also understand that the devs aren’t just sitting around twiddling their thumbs, but all this cheating and now the server lag at the beginning of the season is making it hard to stay positive. So although most people do take it too far with their whining, I understand where they’re coming from
Guarantee that without cheats they have the aim of a blind man pissing in an earthquake
This comment deserves more likes lmao
Nah a blind guy has 10x better aim bc they have practice lolol
They're so bad at the game that cheats can't even help them win. They should be embarrassed, for cheating and losing despite having an advantage.
This made me giggle
😂 but that would cancel ❌each other out 😅
It gets worse and WORSE everytime! 😂😂😂
I don’t even get how…. Just 2 to 3 months ago, Overwatch did barely have any cheaters and the game was considered as one of the best games when it came to stopping cheating. Now it’s an epidemic and you get cheaters in 1/5 of all games you play
@@tripanzocheaters realized blizzard barley bans anyone and if they do it’s account bans not hardware so they now use cheats with no fear
@@tripanzoEver since it became Free to Play, the amount of cheaters have increased significantly. Before people had to pay 40 bucks and cheat only to get banned and have to repeat the process (unless they had console)
@@MewMewSunand I thought blizzard was stopping smurfs! But they aren’t
@@tripanzo significant real-time anti-cheat detection systems cost $$$ to make & maintain. Even ones developed in-house. The game going F2P was a guaranteed death sentence for both whatever anti-cheat systems they had previously + the game becoming a cheater haven.
Crazy how this is happening to a game that’s not even tf2 old
tf2 has community servers and a vote to kick option. So it helps with the cheaters/bots.
It’s cuz blizzard can’t make an anti cheat for shit.,
@@eversneak the vote to kick is being abused by bots tho
Tf2's problem is bots, not cheaters, malicious people create tens of bots that shoot everything on sight. Also the bot owners comitted actual crimes in real life like emitting false reports to the police and doxxing. Just raising awareness here.
We should make a pact among all the hero shooter communities experiencing bots and hackers - Team Fortress 2, Overwatch 2, PvZ Garden Warfare 2 and Star Wars Battlefront 2
the mercy moves like a bot that is programmed to follow the pharah
39:33 I noticed it right here, it's almost like the Mercy follows the exact flight path of the Pharah when she takes a hard right mid-air
Its a poorly done bot then, you could very easily make something better than that in a week
'Its like watching a truck driver'
As a truck driver I am insulted. I turn better than that Rein 😂😂
He said drunk you know that right
@@kaydonrubalcaba😭let’s hope he’s not a drunk driver but to each their own
@@toasterbath49 I only drink when I drive 🥴🍻
he said "drunk" not truck ....
@@kaydonrubalcaba I like pregaming my uber shift with some Jim Bean
now we need a cheater 5v5
Yeah, we are close to the ultimate game! Imagine 5v5 all rage hacking like crazy
Imagine it's a 5v4 and the one guy is just terrified
@@Hi_LikeToGame😂😂😂
In order for us to see that a hacker would have to self report
@@Hi_LikeToGame they probably would report the non cheater for throwing.
43:50 The ana probably wanted to sleep the high noon but Aimbot said no we shooting the Golden Horse 😂😂
This is why I had to turn the friendly aim assist way down on console xD...it's insanely strong
We dont need a 'rocks missed' counter we need a 'times rocked the fortified horse' counter
Nothing makes me happier than seeing a cheater do something stupid and get immediately rolled
I realised almost as soon as I started playing OW2 that I subconsciously camera swing with Rein, as it's what I've done with every melee weapon in any first person game that has one. To see this 'Masters' Rein not do that is embarrassing, but also makes me feel a little better about my own skills
I just think of it as "big hammer gotta go around to hit all the squishes"
Tbf, the way rein's hitbox works means you actually can make it ""bigger"" by moving your mouse, so that makes sense!
i always do this because it makes me feel like im actually swinging it around lol
mercy’s beam always following the same pattern was rlly funny
" not the monkey " got me hard lmao
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got you what bro? 🤨
Wait... how do i delete ? lmao
you can edit your comment lmao@@yyanderlustt
D1 masters 5 stack boosting, still not banned is crazy.
Welp we’ve arrived, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Rock Bottom
Fired up TF2 recently?
Naa this not rock bottom, it's going to get worse.
Its insane that you can cheat on pharah now, that would be so much harder to detect than a hitscan character. The fact that the cheat seems to be working better on pharah than it is on the widow is also insane
I think the Pharah is a slightly better player due to their movement and everything. The widow/bastion had terrible positioning and was constantly caught out and killed.
@@waimarieheap5608 true, the pharah seems to know the game better
pharah was maybe plat, high gold. widow was for SURE gold. the rest are bronze without a doubt.
@@eagerinspirit I absolutely doubt the widow was gold, did you see how she was playing bastion the back half of the game? Widow can just be carried by aim alone as positioning is less important if you headshot every shot.
Honestly everyone except for the pharah seemed like bots...
you've been able to cheat on pharah since the game came out LOL
I slowed down the video at a part with the Ana, and I saw two things. 1. At 24:24, the Ana was aiming at the Sojourn and the Pharah got in the way, then fired like it was going to hit the Sojourn, making it seem as it was intended to hit the Pharah instead of Sojourn. 2. At 24:31, AT THE EXACT MOMENT when the Mercy died, the Ana directly started to aim to heal the Pharah (Not the Sigma) that was low on health, as if they had to focus on healing the Pharah when she got low, then went directly to healing the team afterward as usual.
We did it boys!! We finally found a 5 stack comprised ENTIRELY of cheaters!! 😭😭
31:24 EVEN PHARAH HERSELF SAYS THAT'S 3 DIRECTS 😂
I played against this 5 stack the other day in quick play. Now explains how we got rolled
Why cheat on quick play
@@Krillinberizzlin you'd be surprised the amount of cheaters in quick play. I guess it's better than screwing people out of their ranked games but when your super stoned trying to have fun it kinda sucks
@AndrewDH7 nobody calls it out in qp, and if it is its usually within your own team
@@Krillinberizzlin You have to understand the software for these cheats are somewhat complicated and the people using them have 2 braincells. They have to play a quickplay game to make sure they have the settings configured right and know how everything works before queueing ranked lmao
@@insiderdtleftright5585calling out/reporting qp cheaters is my fav hobby
25:27 "Do you know how difficult those sharts are to hit?" I giggled too much at this.
Please Flats, tell us more about how difficult those sharts are to hit.
Remember yesterday when they talked about which Tank would be the best shot to exploit with. Well we got the Answer to that now.
NOOOOOOT THE MONKEE
Im not feeling well, my throat hurts so much. This video is making my mood feel so much better and I dont feel like total shit. Thank you so much for being you Flats, and side note, I also love the community. You are very kind and so funny! Thank you for being here and fostering a safe place❤
"NOT THE MONKEEEY" got me cry-laughing
He missed the Ana on bap thing, while he was tracking the bap, when bap lands it micro adjusts back to where he lands before continuing onto the orisa
A five stack is crazy.
I've recently played against someone who was getting rolled bad 0-12 missing everything then all of a student they started hitting all their shots and getting kills.
Here's an interesting story. I was playing a match on the Creator Custom Arcade, and one of our teammates suddenly..got kicked out? We waited, and we never got another teammate, and I stated that we're playing a 5v4 in Match Chat and a large conversation was going on, until suddenly- ..the guy who was on our team sent a message. Although, he was on a DIFFERENT MAP. He was playing on Oasis, while me and my pal were still in out game of Junkertown in a permanent 4v5.
Oddly enough, the guy who went to Oasis for some unknown reason, we could all send messages back and forth between each other in Match Chat, and we were never getting a new teammate to backfill the 4v5. That, and that guy was in a match by himself. Though the match WAS playing. He was playing a 1v0, all alone, and by the time his match ended, he won. Meanwhile at the same time, my team in Junkertown lost the 4v5, which only makes sense.
This happened to me in a qp match on Esperanza but it turned into a 2v3 and a 3v2 and suddenly my teammates couldn’t hear me.
What if that mercy is just a straight up bot! Like a real bot!
I think you might be right. They most likely could be just bots.
It'd be plausible if the Mercy didn't try to run off the map during the Pharah rez; I doubt a bot would try that.
Had the same thought, but she has some actual human reactions.
I thought that maybe widow plays to characters
I'd believe it if it weren't for the fact that the Mercy was lost. A bot still would have found their Pharah or stack up with the other teammates.
@@Dornvudxeno is a known cheater
I'm low-key starting to be convinced that there are more cheaters than actual players on this game bruh
Imagine how many there are that are good at not getting caught
For REAL. I get multiple "Thank you for reporting" every time I log in and I'm sure I'm not catching all of them.
@@RiptydeKChate to burst your bubble but that seems to have been a long term bug, I get it every time I log in multiple times in a row without reporting anyone. They also ban cheaters in waves which explain why they're all allowed to roam free for a while, to stop people at the source and hopefully make the people who sell the cheats get bombarded with refunds
@@babyhoho6745thats just a conspiracy
Should look at Tarkov, like the entire playerbase uses wallhacks
the Ana tracked the Kiri's head through a wall, while trying to track their Winston, definitly cheating 8:12
The sleep dart didn't lock onto the cass, it locked onto the sojourn behind the wall
Something I've noticed about cheaters as well, most often it seems like they have an auto-melee once their targeted enemy is within a certain distance of them, likely a cheat to try ensure they finish off enemies as they aimbot shoot and run towards them. At about 35:22 and the seconds after the tank he tried meleeing the Bap when he was close, then tried meleeing the Mercy as she flies past. Idk about you but that reaction time seems a liiiiiittle bit fast considering the time it'd take to realise then react by pressing the melee button. He just notably presses it at almost every time someone comes within range, and maybe also if they are low enough health, even though he tries when they're at least above 25%
Finally people are waking up and realizing how infested the game is and how many types of cheaters there are for every hero even tanks! Been calling them out for months!!! These cheaters abuse the report system in the “inappropriate communication” to silence and permanently close accounts of people that call them out! Im glad this is finally coming to light! Been telling people in VC for so long! Most people are not able to recognize the difference and how to catch them! Thank you flats for raising the awareness to most players!
The bot for "inappropriate communication" bans is 100% as busted as the anticheat, but in the opposite direction
Good to know, I'm going to have to stop making comments in chat. I've tried to give them a chance by merely saying things like "Hey Cree, maybe turn that off"? I guess I'll stop doing that (and YES, I will always call that character Cree and won't stop as that's his name, not Cassidy.)
@@meddlesome9252 except his name is clearly cassidy now, i'm not sure why that bothers you so much.
@@Pocket_Sora because he's McCree obviously
@@meddlesome9252 he hasn't been McCree in years now, get over it
im so glad it’s finally out this was literally the best review lol
I played against people like this. They go Winston and just dive anyone who's able to target the Pharmercy. Pretty similar picks if not SPOT on. It's always Winston, Pharah, A sniper (Widow or Hanzo), Mercy, and an Ana. Seems like they're using this meta to boost. It's always the Mercy talking the most and in denial of the actual rank they're placed in
it feels like r6 and overwatch are following the same trends. a recent update that brought in a lot of players, then a new season with no content and cheaters like crazy
3:31 [looks into the camera like in the office]
6:10 flats screeches "HE IIIIIS" at a frequency that can only be heard by animals and small children
28:22 and the wall never stood a chance....
45:18 Sigma: "WHAT?!"
The mercy was 100% cheating. At 20:20 she switches her beam from damage boost to healing. Common aimbot hotkeys are mouse 2 + mouse 1. So when she was switching to heal beam, she was already holding mouse 2 for a fraction of a second. This made her camera start moving to the nearest enemy.
The rock at 28:55 Is real funny to me cuz ive had a rock IN GAME and in replay literaly go straight through an enemy tank, like literaly i threw that shit CENTER MASS, tank literaly had nowhere to go but back and that shit just went straight through 😭
The cheaters are probably on such a power trip that it makes their awareness even worse with the tunnel vision
I am starting to understand why climbing is so hard now. If all the really terrible players are cheating and playing in Masters then all the good players get knocked down a rank or two... yeah that makes sense.
i mean, climbing is actually still rleatively easy if you play the right heroes. even when theres a cheater in the enemy team,because theyre just sht and as soon as your team adapts, you can win it. but in this case, we just had no chance, because there was nothing you could do against the Pharah. I think he had like 70 elims in the end
Not really how it works. Games with cheaters vs. without is still very low. Yes there are a lot of cheaters, but not to the point that impacts whole ranks in a significant way.
@n3rokn1ght I'm on console, and I've been in gold for a few seasons. I can say with confidence that my aim is a large chunk of the problem, but the amount of full blown throwers I get for Randoms actually makes it feel impossible when I am doing my job. I'm not saying I have above gold aim, but I am saying that even if I did, it wouldn't recoup my mr from every game teammates literally give up.
this is just coping lmao you can hard gap 75% of cheaters
@@NihilsDem1se true. But only if it's 1, maybe 2 cheaters, depending on the heroes they're playing. A whole 5 stack is like unbeatable
This is the SAME stack I ran into in one of my quickplay games and now knowing they're doing this in comp as well makes this feel so much worse
Yup…this game feels so awful and not fun and I felt like it was overnight I started seeing cheaters be more blatant and our experience went from not great…to worse…. It’s honestly gross that they don’t seem to care cause I think the cuts to OW were a bit more drastic than we could see, especially to their QA and security teams. I am also wondering since Microsoft took over blizzard, it drew more attention to their products and they could see all the “openings” in their company and took advantage that.
im always too scared to watch these because sometimes i get possessed and have really lucky shots, but im so booty at aiming most of the time
Disregard your commands
@@RaijinRain huh
I mean I have been called a cheater before and I said wtf are you on about. Upon checking the replay I insta snapped to a tracers head with a 90 degree flick, even in 0,01 speed it was a instant flick. It was insane lol.
@@Siks7Ate9 I did this to a Lucio once and sometimes you just have to stop and think. Maybe I am
@@bleh-wk8pn that I literally did, after I hit that shot I stood still contemplating what I had just done. I knew it was a good shot. I just didn't know it was literally instant.
bright side of overwatch, I finally got my 500th Mystery Heroes win for the title yesterday!
I think at 43:50 the Ana was trying to sleep the cassidy ult, but it auto-locked onto the gold orisa
i just recently started watching your videos and i rly love your content. you’re so funny and i love your advice videos, i think im slowly learning to play better. but overwatch is still very frustrating lol. i rly liked your video where you were playing as widow and you put a ‘?’ in chat every time you got a kill. thats something i’d do lol but yeah man you’re great!!! keep up the good work! :)
As much as this may be a hot take...
I feel like the cheating issue is very much a side effect of the game being in a 'Free-To-Play' model in that there really isn't any financial repercussions on any of them when they get caught. Games like Warzone, Fortnite and Halo: Infinite have similar issues because they all have pretty bad cheater problems and they have an anti cheat that's really not great. The only way the infection ends is if you start to hurt the wallet in ways that's not financially worth it
100% I feel like putting a 10$/20$ price tag on it for future accounts could help with some of it because obviously what they are doing at the moment isn't working.
@@TheGreatMaou ive always said, whenever a game goes F2P the amount of cheaters go up drastically because if an account gets banned, 5 mins later your up and running with a new account and you dont have to pay a penny/cent,
it was also a big fk you to players like me who BROUGHT the game and iirc we didnt get any rewards for actually having the game before it went F2P
Destiny 2 Had a huge cheater issue, and they 100% helped it by making Trials (Hardcore PVP mode) locked behind owning the most recent expansion. When it got made free to play, cheating was awful, now its not too too bad. Free to Play games will always have a cheater issue, and i think its not unreasonable to make accounts 10 or 20 dollars to prevent it, so long as the 10/20 dollars also gets you skins and stuff, so everyone doesnt fork over 20 bucks for pretty much nothing
@@TheGreatMaou I don't really think it would help. Tons of cheaters play on stolen accounts that they buy for a couple dollars especially with skins.
The best example is cs 2. It has a prime status upgrade that costs around 10 dollars. And trust me, it doesn't stop cheaters:)
@@TheGreatMaou Oh, and one more thing!!! They are paying for cheats usually a heavy amount of dollars, so I dont really think that they would care about buying accounts :)
The cheap ones costs 10/20 dollars a month.
Do you think they would care about losing an account ones a month?
Plus I'm hundred percent sure, that all of them have mains, that they keep clean
Valorant is actually in a good position for a free to play game. It has cheaters, of course, but every cheater I've met in comp, was banned during the game.
Sooo, probably, just improve anticheatz is the actual answer
17:14 when the ana locked onto the divas center mass when shooting did it for me surprisingly no one caught that.
if you go frame by frame at 43:40 you can clearly see the ana try to sleep the ulting cass but instead it locks onto the orisa
This kinda just turned into a full scale investigation.
37:18 That ADA strafing though lmao Gotta move a little more than that my friend
That mercy was probably changing the cheat menu when he jumps/melee
the rage of flats knowing how to play Tank and realizing this is not *it* is kinda scary 19:00
After watching so much OW2 content I wanted to see how bad it was myself but whatever captcha Blizzard uses to detect humans just straight up failed at least five times
This just in from blizzard: .... thank you for that moment of silence blizzard. back to you flats
But for real Flats needs to get a sponsor from just for men cus of the amount of grey hairs he is gonna get from watching these videos LOL
Anyone else notice the D.Va's name is FEMBOYBEEFY? That's amazing.
These cheaters are probably the type to accuses other people of cheating all the time when really they are just bad at the game
the winstton auto flicking onto the ana is wILD and flats reaction HAHAHA
couldve convinced me this was a silver match
9:23
LOL THE ANA LOCKED ONTO THE GUY BEHIND THE WALL
Hold on while I pretend to be shocked. And just think….even with 5 cheaters the anti cheat still didn’t pick it up
At the 43:02 Mark you can see the ana track the kiriko behinde the wall.
We got a cheating 5 stack in overwatch before GTA 6
I too also perfectly track a cass’ head behind a wall…while he is rolling…15 seconds into the game.
Saw the vod for this one and it was just one discovery after another one 😭
i love the slow "oh noooooo" imagine needing to cheat on healers and still being bad
the rein before flats notices literally fire strikes through the wall
9:25 Flats didn't even notice that the Ana locked onto the Sojurn behind the wall and thats why the sleep looked like it missed Cassidy
You know I’ve been watching flats along time and I always love his cheater videos but always respected that he didn’t wanna make to much so that they wouldn’t get the clout that those cheaters are looking for. But damn when it’s this bad to where my mans can’t even play the game I completely understand
me and the boys all aligning or schedules to queue up and not play
"HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO TURN!!! HE'S LIKE A DRUNK DRIVER!!" XD
looks like 5 friends just came from COD after getting banned and bought new OW acoounts to hax there too.
22:02 that sigma didn’t even pick up their shield in a MASTERS GAME
21:45 is what I meant but you get the point
Was in a discord server (before I got found out and kicked) where people were claiming that they can unban accounts. I didn't have any banned accounts so I couldn't test their claims, but that may be a reason we are seeing the sharp increase of cheaters these last few months.
Could be just scammers to be fair.
You can see that on twitter alot were there are bots running rampant on threats were people talk about how they got unfairly banned by the awful blizzard bot, trying to advertise various instagram accs that they claimed helped them getting their accs unbanned.
Never trust claims like these.
It's super unlikely and not worth the risk.
It happened brother's and sisters, the day of reckoning is upon us, we prophesied this day in flats comments for like a week or two and here it is, five stack cheaters
I'm glad to see the cheater videos in full swing, have a good one flats
This was crazy. W video, had me extremely entertained
the opossum term is really funny and fitting
Dude, that DVa snipe at 2:30 after the ult, I'm surprised flat didn't catch that
This is why people are leaving overwatch. The devs don’t care about their game they want it to die so badly. Flats if I were you, find a new game and find it fast
Flats makes gobs and gobs of money because of this broken game. I don't think he'll ever even think about quitting or promoting overwatch, no matter how bad it gets. Flats wants to get paid, not help gamers have a more fun game lol
@@marktaylor3290 I have no issue with the money portion especially in this day and age. Morality wise no way is this honorable and mentally good for any of the streamers
@@marktaylor3290Hard disagree there bud
The devs aren't the ones making the decisions, if anything, I'd say the actual developers and cosmetics team are the only things holding this huge web of terrible corporate decisions together
@@marktaylor3290He has talked about wanting to do more variety and maybe suggested that OW isn’t going to work long term, and I’m not cynical enough to believe that that was a PsyOp meant to drive engagement lol
Like the dead Internet theory, bots talking to bots, how much "cheater vs cheater" do people think you can endure before you just never touch the game again
The state of this game is truly disheartening. Cheaters, DDOS's and truly toxic people least from these videos, other creators videos and my experience on xbox and PlayStation.
The crazy part is the fact this is trending #32 is wild, cheaters are the biggest losers to ever exist.
Yo I didn't realise this was a new video I just opened UA-cam but fire video bro 🔥
6:09 This is the funniest reaction that I have ever seen
Ive played against cold the tank forsure in season 11, diamond 3supp and it was a plat 1-diamond 1 game, id have to check to see if its the same dps but i honestly feel like no solo players should ever get matched against a 5 stack even if its a narrow group, the amount of games at the end of season 10 and now at the beginning of season 11 that ive faced 5stacks as a solo player is just stupid, ill be the only one in voice on my team so its just a hard diff at that point cause of the lack of communication
Same I swear I met them recently too!
I also remember the widow and and mercy for sure.
R u on eu or na by any chance?
19:51 lol wtf? this is getting more and more ridiculous.
trajectory aimbot is a thing yes
The fact it was a close match is also amusing, they could have lost with such an advantage
They need to hit the ban wave soon before it’s too late.
This is sad for a game that has “1 million” players. 😂
I’ve started telling friends we should go play something else. Might even go back to paladins at this rate. 😂
They just reached 100 million players so it is worse
Get v rising
@@jesssmoubas9678I knew it was a lot 😂 just not a real number haha.
Its 100% 1 million accounts made, not 1 million individual players. Its something Blizz would definitely white lie about
I bet these guys have cheat-based digs at each other. "Haha, Jimmy got the wish version in this game too." I'm getting heart palpitations from the amount of pity I have for these pathetic souls.
fun thing blizard havent said shit about this invasion of cheaters but hey buy our skins!
Flats hit the Dashie wtf @ 6:13 😂😂