Superman 4: A Dumb, Dumb Movie (Movie Nights) (ft.
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
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The, two dislikes are from Lex Luther and his nephew
Now there's a third one from the Nuclear Man.
@@SpedeVesku and a forth from the other nuclear man
Ohhh Nyooooooo
@@katiacritten9975 He's just mad for getting deleted from the movie.
@@katiacritten9975 and three more from Zod, Ursa, and Non
All the reviewers will look up and shout "Stop being stupid” and Superman IV will whisper "No."
Having seen Drawn together before watching this one I now got an idea where they got the stuff for Cpt Hero being such a neglecting douche and having the innocence of a kid at once
@@phreakazoith2237
Honestly, this is BARELY scratching the "Superman being a douche" surface. Check out some of the golden/silver-age stuff. The website "Superdickery" was established around this theme and he has tons of examples: www.superdickery.com/tag/superman-is-a-dick/
Allison: Stop being stupid!
Movie: no.
Is this the Bugs Bunny meme?
Withers: No.
Linkara can't escape this movie. But at least he has his good friends by his side: Obscurus Lupa and Hard Scotch.
Indeed.
He's going to need a ton more Scotch.
@Leo Asmaklis a prosthetic head that I made for a movie.
@Leo Asmaklis close. It was for body that was found dead for 10 months. It was a thriller movie.
@Leo Asmaklis The Light We Save. It comes out later this year.
"Superman would be ok, why's he concerned about this?"
The apocalypse will inevitably turn him into Bearded Idiot.
There needs to be a comic event with Bearded Idiot, Crazy Steve, Bonkers Betty, and Dick Grayson, Age 12.
@@theangryholmesian4556 the asshole squad
@theangryholmesian4556
And Nuclearman.
"He hammers him into the Moon..." "It feels like a repeat of that without any of the gravity they thought it would have." Probably only 17% of the gravity.
"How long will this video be? I hope it's a 25m one.."
**1 hour+ long**
"I HAVE WON THE UA-cam LOTTERY"
I get happy for long videos also, specially linkara's. I get to hope for a story line thing
Name a more iconic duo than Lex Luthor and Lenny Luthor.
The correct answer is Allison and Lewis!
LaNoLaCola what?!
voodoochile333 You heard what i said
His name is Lenny not Larry
At least the guy who plays lenny can do a better lex luthor
Allison and Lewis are also a funnier duo.
lupa, you just used the star trek prime directive to illustrate a point about superman...
*wipes away tear
they grow up so fast!
You know, in the animated Justice League cartoon’s first episode, getting rid of the nukes left Earth open to alien invasion. Way better movie plot than this one. Love the review!
I think that episode was parodying this plot.
Schlock Jocks It did a good job because it’s better than Superman 4
The difference there is that the United Nations actually asked Superman to disarm the nuclear warheads and it only happened because aliens were impersonating government officials
Like I said, better plot.
Sounds like something some American politician would say, "but we need nukes, what if aliens will attack"
Not gonna lie, Jon Cryer as Lex Luthor is probably one of the best casting decisions CW did with its DC shows.
From Lennie to Lex: this is the hero's journey that the Monomyth was created to narrate.
Half the budget of Superman 4 went into making Masters of the Universe 👍
Is that true?
@@starsiegeplayer yes. Both were made by the same company Cannon Films. They took money from Superman 4 to make Masters.
Worth it.
Makes sense
@@starsiegeplayer Not entirely true. Cannon got a LOT of money to do a Spider-Man film that, reportedly, James Cameron was supposed to direct. I forget the millions but it was VERY sizeable. Golan and Globus decided to instead to take that money and make two movies instead, and then, from the profits made from both movies, they reasoned they would have an even higher budget for Spider-Man. One of those movies was Superman 4. The other movie was supposed to be the sequel to Masters of the Universe, which over time, became Cyborg. The deal with the original Masters of the Universe was that Mattel and Cannon were each supposed to put up half of the money and Cannon kept giving Mattel the run around and Mattel wound up financing almost the entire thing. That's why the end scene is pitch dark. The movie got shut down and they had one chance to get that shot as it was the last thing that needed to be filmed. If you want more examples of how shady they were, read Charles Bukowski's book Hollywood. Though technically fiction, it's his recounting of the filming of the movie Barfly.
Finally, the Superman 4 crossover with Linkara we ALWAYS wanted
really? 'Cause I'd kind of like to see him do a crossover Trouble with Tribbles style
“Plot consistency will be achieved when the people of the world demands...”
Who the hell am I kidding!
I dunno, we're not getting any more Batman V Superman movies, so maybe??
Lewis, Allison, there's a logical reason as to why that strand of hair is so long. Clearly, the hair was taken from superman when he was going through his mullet phase.
...
He's been around since 1938, he probably went through one at some point.
I mean...the 90's. It happened, he had it.
Gun-wielding, mullet-sporting Superman was how he came back. AND with an all-black uniform!
I think what makes Superman so likable is that as strong as he is, he _doesn't_ abuse his power. He _doesn't_ go insane. He _doesn't_ defy his principles. And the few times he falters or fails to save someone, he _doesn't_ team up with a mass murderer and take over the world. He learns from his mistake and _continues to do his job._ You know, like a rational adult? Yeah, I could see him unknowingly forcing his will on people in small increments, but I'm pretty sure he'd stop if any of his friends brought it to his attention. That's because he's a good guy inside and out. He _listens_ to people. He believes that morality is something to nurture in people, not to force onto them. Anti-heroes are supposed to be the exception, not the rule. And obviously, thinking this way makes me an oblivious manchild, not a grown adult who's already tired of this world's negativity.
I'm right there with you. If anything, this movie's biggest weakness is that Superman's a well-meaning idiot. But I prefer 'well-intentioned but naive' over 'smart but cynical asshole'. as a characterization for Superman. It's what fundamentally differentiates him from Batman, more than either character's skillset or supporting cast.
It makes sense for a superhero to be conflicted when they're human, like Batman. But when they are a literal Alien, their moral dilemma is a lot less interesting. The reason a superhero like Superman exists as a concept is to be a beacon of hope and an embodiment of all the things we wish we could do. Yeah, he has the conflict of having to choose whether to be in a human relationship, but at the core of it all we know who he is and that he isn't going to suddenly team up with the bad guys or rule with an iron fist. And where the newest movies failed is questioning whether he should be a hero at all, or sacrifice anything for humanity, immediately making him the least likeable version of an uber-powerful Space God imaginable.
Two creators with a love for so-bad-it's-good movies. It'd be awesome if you got to work on a project with the Rifftrax guys--I'd definitely watched an officially-released riff with you two.
Seconding that wish! You guys are great riffers!
Lex Luthor, the genius who can't say "nuclear" right.
Intelligence isn't transitive. Maybe he flunked English but is great at math
Pronunciation is prolly the least important form of intelligence but it is funny how dumb we can all be
"They were embezzling money to use on other movies."
Oh, the Randy Pitchford Method.
No one is safe from greasy guys.
Superman: "Let's rid the world of nuclear weapons!"
American, Chinese and Soviet ambassadors to the United Nations: *erupt into spontaneous applause*
Totally realistic.
I don't think Putin woutd agree to that.
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92throgg
I can see countries seeing Superman as a way to enforce mutual disarmament, and then going back to building up their arsenal when they no longer have a guy with x-ray vision to keep an eye on everyone.
we need to fly Ashens out so you guys can do some lovely crap camp British films
17:27 You and Linkara just pitched a WAY better version of this movie. I remember seeing this in the theatre when I was 7, and at the time, yeah, this plot made a lot more sense to me. The more I see this, the more I realize this was geared towards children, because the movie seems to have a child's understanding of how the world works.
Oh nice, he's in another one
Gonna grab a snack for this. This is gonna be good
Gotta say every time I am in a bad mood I play this video because the fun these two are having with this absurdly ridiculous movie is so contagious.
It makes me laugh every single time.
Jon Cryer in Supergirl finds a way to be so cartoonishly evil that he is funny and truly threatening at the same time.
"stop it lex! the earth can't live under a red sun!"
"To solve this crisis I must become Superman IV: The Quest for Peace!"
"Oh so that's why they call it that!"
Nobody needs farms. If superman has a wall repair beam then perhaps he has a fruit beam and a grain beam. We know he has a hostess twinkies beam
The Silver Age comics loved to take regular skills and put "Super" in front of them to pretend they where new powers of his. (I.e Super-knitting)
Superman's beams are the Bat belt of beams
My favorite comment here!
There's a reason why post-crisis Superman has a more restrained power set.
I love how often Lewis has reviewed this movie. It never stops being funny, and this is one of my favorite crossovers
Does everyone not have a giant space net? You know, for emergencies?
Wow. That will clear a LOT of space in my garage. Huh.
Lool
Gonna be honest, it's a nightmare to take out of the box it comes in, I mean it should've come in like a plastic bag but nope it's in a box, and it doesn't really fill as many roles in a gravity environment as I'd hoped (or was advertised)
I get mine from Home Depot; they provide free delivery and setup.
"Please Clark!! things aren't that bad!!!" 😂😂😂
gets me every time I watch this movie
Superman removes all nuclear weapons from the planet and fling them into the sun. Now that MAD has stopped being a deterrent, the super powers of the world can finally fight each other in earnest, without the fear of being wiped out entirely by their enemies, ending the Cold War. Quest for peace achieved! 😁
Honestly as someone who lived through at least part of the fear... kinda? I mean we were talking about the complete extermination of every man, woman, and child on the planet. How much war is acceptable to save the human race?
@@tinkerer3399 That is assuming WoMD would even be used. Nuclear weapons are incredibly impractical weapons in actual warfare. Their main purpose lies solely in the threat of them being used.
While I don't believe it's entirely because of it, I do believe MAD, or at least the belief by the powers that be, that it would happen, played a major part in keeping the Cold War from, well... getting hot.
No one wants to drop the first warhead, if they know their opponent will now have an excuse to completely annihilate them as the first response.
Nuclear weapons aren't the only means you can kill a lot of people with. They are a bit more effective, but you can still reduce a country to burning rubble somewhat effectively using other means. The difference, however, is that the powers that be simply don't fear the other methods as much, so they are more likely to engage in warfare, where they are used. Nuclear weapons however are something they fear enough to keep them on the doormat, sort of speak.
As the well known Latin pro verb says: Si vis pacem, para bellum. If you want peace, prepare for war.
One of the odder things about Silver Age comics was how Superboy and Supergirl would almost casually hang out with the Legion of Super-Heroes in the 30th Century. Superboy was supposed to forget all the future details of his life when he returned to the present. I suppose Supergirl did the same.
The lore around Metropolis and Gotham City changes, but my favorite bit of lore is that Metropolis is in Delaware and Gotham City is in New Jersey. It just feels right...
I like that Linkara and Lupa ended up talking about this movie for 2/3 the length of the movie.
Nuclear Man kinda reminds me of a knock off Black Adam. Yeah his backstory is completely wrong, but if you remove that, and you focus on how he holds himself, all the lightning, the roaring, the anger issues... He's basically Black Adam. Lightning makes no sense for a Nuclear supervillain, but he seems to act like pre-crisis Black Adam.
Why did they fire the entire missle. Superman just needs the warhead.
A missile isn't nu-cu-lar enough.
It's like those comics and movies that think the entire bullet cartridge comes out of the muzzle when the gun is fired.
Um... how else do you get the warhead to space?
@@rpgaholic8202 Why even send them to space? Couldn't Supes just fly around Earth and collect them? He's got super speed after all, it probably wouldn't have taken long.
It's like 87% nostalgia, 10% the ability to laugh at the unintentional (?) cheese, and 3% respect for Christopher Reeve trying his hardest, God Bless him! But I still love Superman IV...
Lenny Lothor becomes Lex the student has become the master
"I can see their parachutes."
Jeffrey Barrow thanks for repeating what I just heard
@@voodoochile333 It's standard practice for people to quote their favorite parts of a UA-cam video in the comments. Stop harassing people for engaging in normal behavior.
Too bad it's Sunday.
@@Tareltonlives Or else those buildings would have been full by now!
Nuclear Man sent all those people to another dimension!
YES! Just as soon as that notification popped up and I was so ready for this review!
Superman 4: The Quest for Cannon Goodness!
I love this cheese the movie was under on!
An hour review and you guys never fail to impress me and this review is cracking me up!
But however, the main arms dealer is Bullock who would later be in Tim Burton's Batman and the Movie Nights intro fits well here!
This movie has so much classic Superdickery.
Superman is a dick, indeed!
There's an episode of Batman: Brave & The Bold that is entirely based on that concept. They even reference the one with him burning the shirt Jimmy Olsen got him. Its great.
@@trevingrayek791 I've been meaning to watch Brave and the Bold; I kinda avoided it because it came out right after The Dark Knight, and I was right up there with those fanboys who thought that TDK was the best version of Batman, EVER, and he was finally being taken seriously, and why would we EVER want to go back to a goofy version of Batman, and ALL comic books and movies should be like this...
...and then New 52 and BvS happened.
@@nickbell8353 It has a lot of fun with it's campiness, you get to met different heroes/villains, and it has some pretty good character moments in parts. Definitely worth a look imo.
@@nickbell8353 BatB is, no joke, the best version of Batman. The first episode is a bit meh, but the second has gorillas riding pteradactyls stealing cruise ships by carrying them through the air, and Batman is considering ejecting Plastic Man from the bat plane because he's being annoying. At this point you think you know what you're in for. You're wrong. Things get shockingly dark in the later episodes.
I will say, make sure you catch the Matches Malone episode: it got pulled from some airings due to some... interesting song lyrics, but it's also just a great episode.
You can't just drop an asteroid into a volcano and plug it up. You're just cause a more violent explosion, Superman.
But it delays the problem in exchange for a bigger one later, and that short-sightedness is what's important to learn!
@@PoochieCollins You could argue that a problem that is "later" is much like a problem that is "over there", and as Superman taught us in the comics, problems that are "over there" should be taken care of by people "over there".
@@austinleach1307 : never read the comics; elaborate?
@@PoochieCollins That was a reference to one of the running gags from Linkara's show. He did a comic where Superman busts up a drug operation in a ghetto, and when presented with the notion that said drug dealing will just set up shop elsewhere, Superman's response boiled down to "when the problem is over there, the people over there need to step up so the problem isn't there anymore", so Linkara jokes about Superman's blase attitude about any issue that isn't immediately in front of him, with the implication that as long as the problem is "over there", it's not Superman's to deal with.
"Stop being stupid!"
Me when I was watching The Secret of Mulan for the first time.
All Nucular Man needed for ultimate fabulousness was that sweet blue headband from Megaforce
Love this review. You guys are great together and work well off of each other. I've been looking forward to this review since I saw Linkara's comic review and it did not disappoint.
Lex also got cancer in the DCAU and on Supergirl
27:55 -- The guy in the pinstripe suit played Porkins in "Star Wars", crooked cop Eckhardt in "Batman", the lecherous neighbor in "Hardware", and the government guy in "Raiders of the Lost Ark."
"Betrayed! Betrayed! Betrayed!"
The Jacob Marley of Krypton.
"Every boy can be helped, Superman."
*your Lenny has evolved into a Lex*
Every boy. Every single 35-year-old boy.
Gaahh...
Why would Luthor who wears the wigs for vanity wear one with A BALD SPOT? lol
Budget cuts for the film means budget cuts for Lex's wigs.
@@DalekTheSupreme That hair paint spray in a can stuff was invented on movie sets. Really cheap to spray some on that bald spot.
We could comment on how this movie's dumb, sure, but comparing a scene to the Max Headroom pirate broadcast totally surprised me. Getting into Oddity Archive territory here.
I learned DNA being in the hair root from binge watching the Forensic Files, thank you Peter Thomas.
I think there is mitochondrial DNA in hair to be fair, but I remember reading from somewhere (maybe CSI) that it is not as close of a match to DNA from a hair root, so you probably couldn't clone someone from it.
@@rachaelpoulin1997 Mitochondrial DNA while a part of the overall genom (since it does serve a really important function in the cell) is a little different from your nucleus DNA, as in I'm not sure if you can even match it with nucleus DNA.
F.ex it's mostly only inherited matrilineally (at least with human mitochondrial DNA) meaning it lacks the genes inherited from the father. So it's probably not very viable for cloning, since it would lack the vast majority of the genetic information.
Then again; they clone Superman using a lunchbox containing a piece of cloth, some random gelatinous lump and a tiny super computer launched into the Sun. I highly doubt the filmmakers could care any less about the difference between nucleus DNA and mitochondrial DNA 😄
Oh man I been looking forward to this video. This stupid film brings me so much joy. Also, I'm pretty sure this shlock is what got me into Cannon Films.
*"Why are you so stupid?! Stop being stupid!!!"* 😂🤣
Somebody put on my grave "I was secretly Pokemon the whole time."
Superman 4 and the quest for the B movies! Can superman be a b movie? Yes apparently.
Superman and the Mole Men was a B movie in 1951.
More than anything else, I love how Lacy's hair is waving in the solar winds of space.
Ohh! That's why you did that Megaforce review. You were tiding us over as we waited for this video. Or you just wanted to take advantage of being in the same area. Either way, much appreciated.
Allison needs to review more Cannon films.
She could get Chez Lindsey to review Sylvester Stallone's "Over The Top" together!
Don't want to step on RedLetterMedia turf
In a post-CTC world, I'm so happy that we have former CA contributers that I love that are still working together. If CA did anything right, it brought you guys together. Please keep up the colabs!
If it were released today, it would be Superman: A Quest 4 Peace. Also, the reveal should be that Lacy was alien herself. That'd be the mid-credit sequence.
If it were released today, it'd be a Zach Snyder movie and somehow even worse
And the bad woman who turned good woman would've accused Clark Kent of sexual harassment. And Superman would be a black woman.
Lacy would be attracted to Lois
@@teedup8995 That would actually be an improvement
Ah, Supes 4. i used to rent you so much when i was like 10 to 12, back in early 90's. Back when there was like the Superman movies, Cap'n America and Hulk tv show "movies" and the first Tim Burton Batman. So of course Supes 4 was the second best superhero movie after Bats, to a ~12 year old.
Thanks for another great vid Allison! Lewis is also amazing, Megaforce and Supes 4 are both close to my heart! :)
Because nuclear power works that way.
Movie: Of course! Don't you know anything about science?
NUCLEAR POWER DOESNT WORK THAT WAY!!!!!
Fun fact: Christopher Reeve also made this film so he could get finance for his Street Smart film.
Just a heads up, its just Reeve, you are probably mixing it up with the other Superman, George Reeves.
Yes. It bombed (Cannon barely marketed it) but got great reviews from critcs.
“So is he supposed to be both Superman and Lex Luther?!”
....would that make him Con-El then?
Wow, he said "Man of Steel". I am so angry right now.
19:37 Ah yes, Krypton's local sayer of doom, Crazy Ral-ph
Never thought I'd see the Max Headroom PBS Doctor Who preempted hack ever again and you found the perfect way to put it into... a Superman movie review! Insta-sub for that creative twist alone but add in numerous photoshops and one-liners topped with Nucular Man being nekkid... you both had me cracking up constantly throughout. Really wonderful style you two have got, much thanks!
Reality: You don't understand the Cold War!
Superman 4: YoU doN'T underSTAND thE CoLD wAR!
@52:56 I watch this Alison's rant every time I feel down and it immediately makes me laugh non stop
I miss the Movie Nights where Phelous is just watching Mary Kate & Ashley videos with utter misery.
Looks like I have things to catch up on😜
I don't think I've revisited an obscurus lupa video since I was a wee teen, and to see her again in a vid with linkara- that's some sweet nostalgia. Super happy to be subscribed to you both now :)
The part where he rings the bell from the inside and you comment that he gets more powers... Now I imagine Super Man trying to get into comedy situations so he can evolve more oddly specific but wacky powers.
What with the names of Superman's other love interests (and rival and mother), I'm surprised Lacy's last name wasn't Larfield.
Hallelujah! Welcome back to Cannon Lupa!
17:56 If a guy who can literally melt you Indiana Jones style with a stare tells you he's getting rid of the nukes, you don't argue with him. But once he's gone, you better get those nukes before your nations enemies do, or you're in trouble.
Is that the UN? Or is it Milton Keynes Central train station?
Makes me laugh every time I see that bit.
According to Oliver Harper, it is Milton Keynes. Supposedly, Christopher Reeve wanted them to shoot on location in New York City (like they did in Superman '78) but Cannon Films budget was cut.
Wait, if you're right about Nuclear Man having some of Lex's DNA in him, would that make him a takeoff on Superboy?
Would that make him the precursor to Superboy?!?!
@@johnschou2172 Considering Conner didn't exist until 1993 and the revelation that he's half Lex wasn't until 2003, probably.
Lupa and Linkara a more dynamic duo could not be found outside of comics
Allison, I would really like you to react to The Apple, please. Moar Golan-Globus ‘80s cheese awaits!
Ditto!
And Masters of the Universe.
Wonder Woman basically did this (Diana blaming Ares on WWI) but had that realisation on her behalf that wars are more complicated than she initially thought
Thank you Lupa. Always enjoy your videos. Stay positive and know your fans love you :D
That was a very enjoyable review of Superman IV. Rather than just complaining, you both had a lot of fun with it. The film truly is so bad it's good, unlike Superman III which really is a chore to get through.
If you listen to the commentary, screenwriter Mark Rosenthal details a much better script that was initially drafted, one that would feature Christopher Reeve playing the evil clone. Due to the money disappearing, so did the crew who worked on the effects for the previous film. The hiring of Cannon's low budget schlock director Sidney J. Furie pretty much ensured that Superman IV would be a disaster.
As for the budget, a lot of the money went to finishing up Masters of the Universe, which Cannon had high hopes for. It was released earlier that same year if I remember correctly, and of course flopped.
Just a quick correction: Cannon had made a few big budget films with Tobe Hooper, most notably Lifeforce and Invaders From Mars, both of which flopped. Masters of the Universe and Superman IV were basically the death of Cannon films.
Superman III is a bad movie, but you can tell the people involved were trying. No one involved tried in Superman IV.
okay they were trying, the question is *what* were they trying?
No Superman 3 was good movie better than Superman 4.
I am really enjoying these! Not regretting subscribing.
You guys are the best!
this movie kind of sets up Injustice, where Superman decides we're too dangerous to make our own decisions after The Joker tricks him into killing Lois and nuking Metropolis.
I love this video so much, I'm back for a second viewing.
Lol, Stacey is so touchy XD
Clark: this is sexual harassment and I don’t have to take it?
Lmao
Or do I? Lmao
I just realized Megamind was a parody of this movie specifically.
E: The editing is seriously great
OH yeah I think you’re right
Superman Returns is super creepy based on the memory erasing kisses and her having his baby.
His baby who's been growing up without any supervision of his emerging powers and straight up murders a goon with a piano
Particularly as they cast an actress who was way too young as Lois
@Conrad Ferrus Seriously, who the hell signed off on this script again?
Gnome de Plume yeah, that kid is Brighburn essentiallly.
Even though I never usually enjoy very long videos (unless it's GDQ) the length of this is perfect. We need this much time to hear everything!
(In Homer Simpson voice:) "It's NOOKYOULAR..."
Oh, and I have to say, I love the ... most-recent DC atlas that explains where everything is. But New York City is New York City (called the Cinderella City sometimes due to Metropolis, DE and Gotham City, NJ ... yes... really... being the wicked stepsisters in comparison). Oh and it's Central City, MO and Keystone City, KS instead of the Kansas Cities. #TheMoreYouKnow #IWantAKeystoneCityShuffleReferenceDammit
DC expects me to believe that Metropolis is in DELAWARE?
I love the Supergirl version of Lex Luthor I think he's an amazing villain, when I found out that he played Lenny Luthor in this crappy movie my jaw dropped.
Oddly enough Jon Cryer was pretty good as Lex Luthor in Supergirl recently
Superman made the net with his super-weaving skills. Look it up, it’s a thing!
I had such a rough day, and sometimes I come home and try to watch videos and they don't really help. But this is so joyful, thank you for making this.
Jim Lee's Lex Luthor looks exactly the same as his Professor X
My compliments to the editor, btw. VERY smooth~!
Is it just my computer screen or does Lewis have a magical color-changing hoodie? I swear it's going from yellow to black to blue for me...