The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen - Caravan of Garbage
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- 2003 was very much like today in the sense that everybody was looking to adapt comic book properties into a huge movie franchise. So in continuing our Alan Moore-athon we're taking a look at The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, or LXG if you would. In Sean Connery's final live action role before retirement he leads a team of 19th Century super people as Alan Quartermaine. We've never liked it but maybe that's wrong. Doubtful though. Thanks for listening to our Caravan Of Garbage review!
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RIP Kevin O'Neill, probably the only comic artist to ever have his ENTIRE STYLE deemed unacceptable by the Comics Code Authority.
One of the greatest comic book artists of all time. The sheer commitment, research, and thought he put into his art is remarkable.
Kevin, Mike Mignola and Bill Sienkiewicz completely renewed my faith in comic art- the Rob Liefeld era made me quit comics for a time.
@@DaveVaderify I looked for context and that is actually all of the context. His first major work for DC was a Green Lantern comic written by Alan Moore, the CCA denied the comic because of his art, DC asked what they could change and the CCA said it was his entire art style that was unacceptable despite him having work approved by the CCA previously.
@@ToomanyFrancis I love anyone and everyone who does the research and shares their findings 👍🤣
I have loved his style since reading Nemesis the Warlock back in the day. With book 3 being a highlight
The working title of this movie was Blue Harvest because once Alan Moore read the screenplay he nearly blue his brains out.
This may be the greatest comment on the internet.
Hahaha
In a corn field
@nestor6297 he let them write it. He can say whatever the fuck he wants
Yeah! Hey wait a minute......
Making Mina Harker a vampire is such a weird choice given that the entire back half of the book is dedicated to making sure she doesnt become one
And in the comic her explicit strength is that nothing can shake her, she already faced the devil and lived (dracula). As such, she is the only person that can lead this group of monsters and psychos.
Nah son sexy vampire chemist is way better.
Well her being a vampire is pretty cool in my opinion. But that is a good point.
I first saw this as a child and it was one of my favorites. I still can’t make myself dislike it. I understand that it’s not great but man it’s good.
Haha I feel exactly the same! It's just campy good fun.
Same, as a kid it was the coolest thing ever
Exactly this
Yeah this was the most badass thing 9 year old me had ever seen
I bought it on PlayStation portable (PSP) mini disc and I think I loved it more because it was the first time I'd ever been able to watch a movie not on a television set! I think I'll always have a soft spot for it, despite how bad it is 😂
Little known fact about this movie, the invisible man wasn’t always going to be the invisible man, he was initially supposed to be one of the blue men from the blue man group who had to be edited out when they realised they didn’t have the rights to the character. As a nod to the removal of the blue man, the working title of this movie during production was Blue Harvest which was coincidentally also the code name for the original Star Wars.
That's some pretty good Green Trivia.
You forgot to shout RODNEY!
You suck for letting me read this.
The joke lives on in all of us
Ya gotta harvest that sweet, delicious, blue... much like the working title of my favorite movie
Little Nicky
I will always love this movie for 2 reasons. One: I love the Hyde transformation into Jekyll. Two: it got me back into reading classic novels and reading in general.
A film so bad it will make you want to read
@@dspsblyuth Nah I think it was more the characters and references.
Unapologetically, unironically love this movie, I just have so much fun with seeing so many of my favourite literary characters onscreen with such great production design.
YES. this movie is amazing. i think its an age thing maybe where you had to be young enough to not be cynical when it came out? or maybe you needed to have never read the comic? my dad got me the VHS and later the DVD. also if you check the user reviews on google its 75%! this is just one of those movies that people love but critics absolutely hate for some reason. i'll never understand why it was hated so much and still is
Every time it's on tv I have to stop scrolling. I never just say "oh, that movie." It's fun, and I love it.
I enjoyed the penny dreadful tv series for the same reason
So the submarine captain is NOT Tony Shaloub?
I don't think this is the worst CB movie on a technically level but it honestly pisses me off more than any other CB movie. I can't stand this POS movie, not only does it ruin the CB and the potential but it also bastardizes classic characters
This and Van Helsing are STILL some of my favorite movies from this era. I don't care what people say about them. Lol. Seriously many flaws aside I STILL love this film and this channel for putting themselves through the punishment of watching stuff they hate. Thanks fellas..
I too have a soft spot for some of those early 2000s action, fantasy, scifi movies. Such as this, Van Helsing, The Matrix sequels, The Chronicles of Riddick, and Reign of Fire. Flawed movies for sure, but still fun in my opinion.
Yep! I’m a big fan of colour schemes. Dick Tracey is great too.
@@bryanferratt6598 Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
@@mickidoesmediaHaven't seen that.
Same. I never got the hate for either since A: they're some of the few movies of the last few decades using OG horror stories like Dracula, Frankenstein, or Jekyll & Hyde and B: they were really creative stories/settings. Van Helsings fully auto crossbow and everything about Nemo and his sub live rent free in my head to this day. I can usually understand why people hate some movies even when I like them but those 2 I thought were OK at worst but definitely not warranting the hate some people levy on them today.
Structure/plot-wise, it's uncanny how much Whedon's Avengers (2012) owes to this movie
It's the basic structure of your grand team up of iconic characters. Except one was super influential in the modern movie world, and the other was way too X-TREME for people at the time. And now probably
the whole mr hyde/hulk turns mad and fights one of the heroes on the secret high tec ship as part of the villains' plan
I never thought of it like that. Avengers 2012 is really similar to Masters Of The Universe.
uncanny like the X-Men!
Seaman David's the 1st mate was my coulson
"We need to gather a bunch of superpowered people so we can steal their abilities to make supersoldiers"
"Okay, let's get an old man who can, I dunno... shoot pretty good and maybe has some vague connection to African mysticism, a guy who built a submarine, and another guy who can shoot kinda good and also convinced his friends to paint a fence for him one time."
Well, they needed Quartermain to hunt down Hyde and catch him. They brought in Nemo to get a vague idea of how his technology worked so they could copy it, and Sawyer was not brought in for the League but was actually a US agent that happened to be hunting the same group as the League. The plan is still pretty dumb though.
"They all said I was mad! But when I use the power of Tom Sawyer to convince everyone in America to paint their fences with hallucinogenic paint, then we'll see who is mad!"
Man after reading that story I kind of wanted to paint that fence.
@@joshuabonesteel2303all of them I can sort of understand, Sawyer is by happenstance anyway, and even if they shouldn't have him on the team or trust him, the invisible man makes sense too. The one I completely don't understand is Dorian, what is his use? He's got some money and all of his business partners seem to die... he's our Tony Stark 😂 the hell did they expect with him?
@stephengrigg5988 Moriarty must have known about his invincibility. It is important to note that some of these characters picked up some powers for this movie.
We need a series reboot so we can get a bottle episode of Mr Hyde in the tailors, waiting on them finishing his big hat.
Wouldn't that be the Haberdashery, not the Tailor's?
Maybe the normal top hat also transforms into an angry big top hat
So the submarine captain is NOT Tony Shaloub?
@@ArticulateDegenerate That's the sequel hook. He realises he's been waiting at the wrong shop then credits roll and "Mr Hydes Hat Will Return" appears on screen
Props to whichever editor keeps adding the Inside references to these videos. Also pushing V for Vendetta until way after the 5th is genius
The Rodney Supercut literally makes me laugh every single time.
I've started just shouting RODNEY at random intervals
RODNEY!!!!!
Every damn time it catches me off guard 😂😂
It's the over the top death at the end that kills me
@@Butt_Slayer Rodney?
Connery: "I got fed up dealing with idiots"
"Anyway, you're gonna be this wizard and help this little guy chuck a cursed ring into a volcano."
Also Connery: "I don't get it."
And then he went on to voice _Sir Billi._
"go watch this bakshi cartoon, we are making a live action version of that, but this time we will actually complete it!"
I love this film for one line. Connery looking out the doorway and saying "That wash naughty"
Underwear laundry day?
Fun fact about this movie, Mr. Hyde is a man with prosthetics and they just put him in front of a blue screen, so they could harvest those shots and insert him in the film at the proper size, which is why the working title of this movie was “Blue Harvest” which is actually the working title for the original Star Wars, if you didn’t know.
I can't believe they forgot it
@@rodrigomoreno907 They didn't forget they've stopped doing it.
So the submarine captain is NOT Tony Shaloub?
@@judeconnor-macintyre9874 go see the latest video...
I don't think this movie is either good or bad.
It has some awkward moments, but it also has a charm of its own. I find it entertaining.
Nah its bad. It just has some charm
I haven't seen this since it first came out when I was like 14 but I remember thinking it was "cool" and not caring how nonsensical the plot was haha.
True - with no knowledge of the comic, it may seem not bad. If you've read the comic, it's absolutely bad.
It’s definitely not good but when I was a teenager I was obsessed with it just because I was obsessed with Victorian and steampunk shit. OK like I kind of still I am tho...
@@hellbenderdesign I have no knowledge of the comic to this very day... and I hate it. There's more to it than simply fandom bias. "LXG" is just a crap film, centered around crap action, with mostly crap characters in it. I saw it once, in the theatre. I'll never see it again, and die happily in spite of that.
"Mason, have you ever watched a movie?"
"yeah"
This made me laugh way harder than it should have.
I feel that the nostalgia I had about this movie outweighs the bad that it has inside of it. I still enjoy this movie, and I do not mind keeping my rose-tinted glasses on whenever I watch it.
I unironically love this movie. Every scene with Captain Nemo is so dramatic and articulated and I adore his acting
We need a Maso fashion show
Second.
Yes please
Strong agree. It'd be a good April fools
How was your comment posted 12 hours prior to the release of the video?
@@arturaraujo73 Patreon, M8
I appreciate the fact that Connery had the self-awareness to go, “I didn’t understand The Matrix. I didn’t understand Lord of the Rings. I recognize that just because I don’t understand it doesn’t mean it’s crap.” That’s an admirable quality to have. The irony is that he was actually right about this one and should’ve past.
I wonder if that self-awareness also played a part in retiring after this movie. Yeah, he was miserable making it, but maybe there was a part of him that thought, “I just have no idea what’s gonna be a worthy project anymore, so I should just retire. I’ve lost the ability to judge movies correctly, I don’t need the money, I don’t want to damage my legacy like so many older actors. Maybe I should quit.”
I’m just picturing Sean Connery slowly realising he should’ve done the matrix.😂
Ohhh shhhhhhit
As if this was worse than the shity Mateix sequels?
He turned down the role of John Hammond.
@@nathanknight6042 But it was worse. If you don't take my word for it go check the rotten tomatoes scores.
@@anubusx I'm surprised he didn't shoot himself in the head with his own gun from lxg
I love that of everything Orson Welles did in his life, you remember him as the voice of Unicron
This was my absolute favourite film as a kid, I've seen it so many times. Of course it's quite bad but I still think it's fun
You're not alone. This was the good camp...
I think this is a common feature of mid-2000's films where they have an amalgamation of good ideas or previous literature to pull from and they just pulled the trigger a little too early based on the tech we had available. I think it's really underappreciated how people and groups in the film industry like George Lucas and ILM, BBC Wales, Steven Spielberg, etc. constantly pushing the industry to the "cutting edge" of what it's capable of, caused a lot of other production studios and filmmakers to rush projects that had really good and ambitious concepts behind them like this one. It is the same reason I am overjoyed that the Neil Gaiman comic SANDMAN was not adapted until recently, the quality reached in that first season could not have been achieved in 2003, 2009 or even I would argue on a television budget, 2015. Overall, it's not that the filmmakers totally screwed the pooch, instead, the initial concept was to ahead of it's time to meet the standard of a good movie at the time. Bet if they remade it now with some likeable stars. decent budget and passionate director it would turn out great, despite likely not being received as such in the light of the sheer number of "super human" concepts in movies right now.
Just wanna shout out the late Kevin O'neill, the original comic looks so bloody good thanks to him
Two James Bonds have appeared in a film together. David Niven and Roger Moore made two films together: Escape to Athena (1979) and The Sea Wolves (1980).
One of the first times in a movie theater I thought “oh wait can movies be bad?”
Edit: then a few months later, intolerable cruelty was the first time I said “oh this is a bad movie.” I looked it up again and the release dates line up.
I had that experience watching “Masterminds” Also the first, and only, time I walked out of the theater during a movie.
Had this watching transformers as a teenager
Oh wow, I remember the feeling of this idea occurring to me.
Except its not even really that bad
This was your Godzilla 98'
Sean connery was the master of the ancient art of furniture combat known as furnitchu. Never mess with a man who knows 37 different ways to kill with an end table
I love how you two interact; very natural and entertaining.
They are invisible.... instead of visible.
It's because they're the same person mate
The way Mason picked it up at 18:00 top notch
I never understood the hate for this movie. I always loved it, although I admit it did feel a bit disjointed. But overall I watch it every time it's on TV and will put it on if I run across it on streaming
Me as well my dear
Not gonna lie, I would love it for the final piece of media they covered during this Alan Moore marathon is the Justice Leauge Episode "FOR THE MAN WHO HAS EVERYTHING"
I am screaming. This unlocked a very specific childhood memory, Dorian Grey melting????, which I kept remembering every now and then and couldn't find for many years. SCREAMING
Literally sat in hospital with a proper bust elbow and can’t explain how pleased I am u just uploaded this, cheers lad😂
Hope you get better bro!
Get well soon buddy
Hope your elbow's better mate
If you boys are doing all the Alan Moore adaptations, you should do The Show from 2020 that wasn't released until last year. He wrote it, and liked it enough to be in it, and it's way way weirder than anything else on the list. It may not qualify technically because I think he just straight wrote it as a film.
I really hope from now on that Mason and James just take a break every episode to rewatch "Queen of the Damned".
Mason's love and knowledge of high fashion is always a highlight of these reviews.
RIP Kevin O'Neil
Guys I just went to see who played the invisible man and you wont believe who it is. Its the actor who played the readhead irish mob guy from daredevil season 2 who tortured Punisher and the same guy who played Bor in Thor 2
I can’t stop watching this every time I come across it on TV, a real guilty pleasure.Great review lads.
If you're doing an Alan marathon, you're hopefully doing the one adaptation Moore even remotely likes, which is the Episode from JLU, based on his comic, For the Man who has Everything
Moore liked it so much that he let them put his name on it.
That’s the magic of Bruce Timm right there
I was going to suggest this too, although ‘like’ is a strong word. He probably just has fewer problems with it. Or because it’s animated
League of Extrodinary Gentlemen occupies a place in my weirdly specific 'Movies with great production design and/or cinematography that are technically shit but are still *just* enjoyable enough for multiple watches' sub genre.
Also @9:50 I spit muffin all over my desk. Well done, editor. Well done.
Still got the words blue harvest into this episode. My heart is warmed
The editing of these videos is borderline GENIUS.
I LOVE LXG. I love that Hyde's pants still fit his legs which nods to HULK but because his potion is steroidal which often doesn't work as well on legs.
This movie desperately needs a reboot! Such a cool idea with so much potential!
I've only seen this movie once, back when it first came out (on a pirated DVD while it was still in cinemas), and the *only* thing I remember about it whatsoever is the way Sean Connery says "snooker" at one point
I CANNOT BELIEVE no one mentioned the little cold weather outfit variants the whole cast wears, a la classic Batman or watchmen
hopefully “What does Alan Moore think of this” stays as a recurring bit like Rodney, just James making up what Alan Moore thought of random movies
This used to be a favorite movie as a kid, it blew my mind to find out people hated it when I got older.
Same, also the fact that people feel free to mock those that like it because "ItS nOt LiKe ThE cOmIc"
As kids we mostly love action spectacles. Once older we notice the plot holes and lackluster writing.
As much of a trainwreck this movie is, I absolutely love it, its one of my guilty pleasures lol. It's so batcrap insane, you can watch it and just lose yourself in the absurdity of it, its a lovely way to spend some time just turning off your brain and enjoying the mayhem. Plus Nemo has been a favorite of mine for decades, so I was very happy seeing all his tech, so weird and anachronistic but great imo XD Yeah, it tanked and Moore hates it, but still, I stand by it being a dumb fun movie!
Doesn't Moore hate everything at this point?
@@bgood8299
Well...I think he enjoys one episode of the Justice League cartoon, which did a good adaptation of his work "for the man who has everything.'
He also likes Harry Partridge's Watchmen parody, but I think that works because Partridge understood the work well enough to know *how* to parody it.
(Edit: this is hearsay mind, I don't have full confirmation if Alan Moore liked them)
I think you mean bat shit..?
I believe that a gent would visit his hatter for a custom top hat, rather than his tailor. Besides that, as far as I understood, the LXG film was already being made before the comic even came out - essentially they purchased the rights to the concept (and the ability to claim they tied into the comic series) and didn't really care about the details of the finished comic... Which only adds to the idea that they pinched some of the script from elsewhere.
I absolutory loved this movie, watched it loads as a kid, rewatched it last year and was...surprised to say the least (but I still kinda love it for all the campiness and costumes etc)
Love Maso's input on the suits, i have genuinely learned something.
After the wrap party, Connery was asked where Director Stephen Norrington was and Connery said, "Check the local asylum/mental institution."
Big fan of all the obscure Alan Moore B-roll footage in this marathon
All I know about the movie version is that Moore hated this so much he said this one is the reason his name is never on any adaptations. I look forward to learning more from these two amazing teachers.
The Rodney supercut gets me every time!
I loved LoEG, Hell Boy and Van Helsing as a kid. Loved the aesthetic/style/feel they were going for. Too bad they weren't good enough to work out in the long run.
I decided to read Dracula for this Halloween 2022 and finished last weekend. I felt I wasn't quite done with the Gothic horror feel for this year, so I watched Van Helsing and League this past week. And man I think this is pretty great actually. This is probably my favorite Dorian Gray, seeing Mina Harker after reading Dracula was a great callback, Dr Jekyll is a mildly interesting adaptation, and the inclusion of Tom Sawyer is the epitome of campy fun. The villains plot of orchestrating a world war, organizing a group of superhumans to ostensibly stop said war, only to find out he's just using them to manufacture weapons to sell to the highest bidder of his manufactured war... pretty excellent in my opinion
Man, there's so much to like in this idea and this movie, really makes you appreciate how they could make it boring
I know right. I liked the idea, even as a kid, and yet, all I thought when seeing it was "Why is this so uninteresting despite it?" And now I feel it's because it still feels so drenched in typical high budget action shlock that doesn't often feel like it does the intrigue justice.
I think we should make them watch this as many times as possible, they're nearly starting to like it
This was the first film I ever bought on UMD (PSP mini disc!) and as a kid I LOVED IT! I recently watched it again and realised what a naive child I'd been 🤣
The damn “Rodney supercut” kills me every time
One of my favorite bad movies. I love the Mr. Hyde thumbs up underwater
The thought of Saul Goodman talking to Alan Moore just fuckin cracks me up
Holy shit they didn't do a Blue Harvest joke
It is incredibly funny to me that Maso thinks of Orson Welles as “the guy who played Unicron” and honestly I’m no better
Honestly as cool as a reboot sounds...a TV series would work better for an adaptation
I remember watching this when I was a kid and enjoying it and it’s definitely one of the many movies of my childhood that I can’t ever talk bad about
Everyone's favorite adaptation of an Alan Moore comic.
This movie used to be on TV semi frequently. Like on Sunday afternoons. I never really liked it but I realized, after several years, that when I saw it in broadcast, that I’d stop and watch it. It was at that point that I had to realize, I really enjoy this movie. And I know it’s not "good" but there’s something about it that I find really entertaining. It’s definitely one of my guilty pleasures.
I still unironically love this movie. Yes, it's ridiculous, but it is fun. I'm appreciative of the pulpy, shlocky fun.
Did all of you people get together and all agree to use the exact same phrase? Yeah, we get it. You all unironically love this movie. You are unique. Just like everybody else.
I remember watching this as a child and I thought it was so fucking cool. Like it’s 100% nostalgic for me
i LOVE this movie. i think i'm the only person on earth that watched league of extraordinary gentlemen multiple times on purpose. i love the costumes, the props, the set design, the characters, the settings, the story. i grew up watching allen quartermain movies so i really loved seeing sean connery play him (especially after seeing him play Indiana's dad lol). this movie was just so entertaining for me. the idea is awesome and i never got tired of seeing all the characters do their thing. the creepy clockwork man??? how awesome is that costume! the prosthetics look amazing too. i'm fully convinced that people hate the movie so much because of the super dumb title (LXG...) and because it apparently has nothing to do with the comic? i've never even heard of the comic, so i don't have any expectation of it.
You're not. Watching b movies like this, queen of the damned, van helsing, etc are my favorite
The idea of 20th century pop-culture characters teaming up is one of the coolest I've heard, good job Alan Moore I think you might be going places.
There's a board game called Unmatched Cobble and Fog that is based that, except it's confrontation.
I love the chemistry you two have! Great work!
There is a lot of silly things about this movie. What stood out is when Connery jumped out of the moving auto-mobile and just landed flat footed
I absolutely, unabashedly love this movie, i grew up watching it, love it every time i see it, and the set pieces are absolutely fantastic
My sweetest guilty pleasures : The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Van Helsing, John Carter, Chronicles of Riddick, Ninja in the Dragon's Den, Alien vs Predator 1, Dead Heat, City Hunter (Jackie Chan), Tetsuo II The Bodyhammer, Godzilla Final Wars, Braindead, Return of the 18 Bronzemen, Nemesis (1992 sci-fi film with Olivier Gruner), The Last Starfighter, Cube 2 Hypercube, Jason X, Undisputed 3, Ang Lee's Hulk, Dracula 2000 (Gerard Butler), Fright Night Part 2 (1988), Disney's The Black Hole (1979 sci-fi movie), and many more.
Have fun watching those you did not know in this list.
I remember seeing this in the theatre and being disappointed in a movie I was excited to see for the first time. I've rewatched it a few times and so much of it simply doesn't work, while having elements I would normally rave about. It's like someone dumped a handful of sour candy into a pot of chili
The beef between Connery and Norrington is hilarious. This made my day.
I actually enjoy this movie, it has its flaws, but it has its own cheesy fun tone. I use to watch it a ton when I was a kid, either on FX or DVD from my local Blockbuster… good times.
Chemistry between you two is class
I haven't seen this movie in a while, so my opinion could change, but I've always loved this one. Sure, it's rough in spots but... I don't know. There's a magic here that I feel like went generally unappreciated.
Though, my memory did confuse Mr. Hyde in this and the Van Helsing movie for a while.
Ancient Sean Connery doing press for this was hilarious, he talked almost as if he was his character, but was also completely clueless...
Interviewer: So what happens in this movie?
SC: "Well, basically we had to form a league!"
As a kid I watched this movie daily on my little TV I don't think that dvd left the DVD player for at least a year
This movie was so much FUN! That was all I needed from it. I can still watch it and not be disappointed.
Finally
the Alex G video
Mason's rant about Dorian Gray's suit is underrated.
I loved this movie! I think I liked the concept more than the movie, but I’ve always enjoyed it and hope they make one again.
Getting stoned enhances these videos for me, I love y'all's sense of humor.
As a kid I really enjoyed this movie
Man dudes knowledge on fashion is impeccable I can't even be mad because he has a nice beard.
Guilty pleasure, I freaking love this movie. When it came out, I loved they cast Jason Fleming as Jekle/Hyde. Honestly this is a better CB adaptation than most the DCEU films we’ve gotten, including those in the snyderverse.
I’m excited for this episode! I am sorry you had to watch this movie again but thank you😂
You can't blame Alan Moore for not watching any movie based on his work after this
I loved this as a kid! Its a guilty pleasure movie for sure!
Sorry for your lifetime mute friend
My favorite moment? Driving a sword-shaped submarine through the canals of Venice. The canals are apparently _way_ deeper than I've been told.
I know it is terrible, but I always had a soft spot for this one.