From Hell - Caravan of Garbage
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- There is a long history of Alan Moore movie adaptation that he absolutely hates. So we're going back to revisit all those we haven't visited yet, starting with From Hell from 2001. Starring Johnny Depp, Heather Graham and Ian Holm it tells a fictionalized tale of notorious serial killer Jack The Ripper. And it's pretty boring. That's our hot take. Thanks for listening to our Caravan Of Garbage review!
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There is strong evidence to suggest that Jack the Ripper was actually a farmer that came into the city to sell his goods. It was said he always got depressed when he came into the gloomy London city so the locals gave him the nickname “Blue” and when he showed up, the city folk would say “Here comes Blue’s Harvest”. Which coincidentally is very similar to Blue Harvest, the working title of the original Star Wars.
i wanna be angry but i'm impressed.
Well played sir.
I thought that's what the London newspapers called Jack the Ripper at first when his spree started. Then the readers were confused if it was a serial killer or a movie script, so they changed his moniker from Blue Harvest to Jack the Ripper. No more strongly worded letters to the editor.
chefs kiss sir
Oh for fuck's sake that actually got me.
Fun Fact: The only adaptation that Alan Moore respects is an episode of Justice League Unlimited called “For The Man Who Has Everything.” It’s based on a Superman story he wrote of the same name. Would love to see you two talk about it.
Notably, it even has his name credited on that episode. He normally refuses to have his name on adaptations of his work
Man the DCAU is so good. Just do a faithful comic adaptation. The themes are already there, you don’t need to make it darker and grittier.
@@Matt-xc6sp it's crazy how DC got that universe right 20+ years ago and have just been fumbling on pretty much everything else since.
Do the terrifier films or I'll unsub... I swear to god I'll do it.... 😉
That episode is amazing
Hearing that Johnny Depp definitely died during the filming of the Lone Ranger was almost as surprising as hearing about the death of the Blue Harvest joke, which happens to be the original working title of the original Star Wars
Oh I didn't know that!
@@s.l.thecoffeeaddict1657 its true, he was really almost as surprised.
If only it was true.
It explains Depp’s accent choices in the 00’s
The Lone Ranger is lost media, it's a shame we never got to see it out of respect to Depp's family, it could if been great
I will say this but Alan moore. Even if he hates the adaptation, he makes sure the other co-writers and co-creators get the credit & money.
Though he acts quite blunt at times he seems to really be a stand up guy that does care about the industry and the people in it.
Actually, it's been widely reputed that after his work on Captain Britain with Alan Davis early in his career, Moore has essentially blocked most reprints of those stories for years only because he's mostly against the idea of royalties and didn't consult Davis on it, which basically ruined their relationship.
@@Memu_
I don’t know… I love pretty much all his comic work but every time I hear about him saying something he makes me like him less and less. That BS about people liking superhero movies leading to those people becoming fascists that he said recently for example.
Plus you gotta respect the consistency that he’s never gone back on his word and hates every one of his adaptations
@@RedNinja115
What do you mean exactly by “not gone back on his word”? do you just mean “he never changes his mind?” Cause you could argue that’s a negative...
As a real treat, you should wrap this up with the only adaption he's reportedly enjoyed - Justice League Unlimited's adaptation of For The Man Who Has Everything.
That is such a good episode
@@sabrina63 I like that idea. It would be a nice way to end on a good note.
The From Hell comic is an amazing piece of work, basically this incredibly well-researched piece of Ripperology that explores the idea of 'Jack' as ultimately being a kind of meta-figure, in long tradition of British occultism and murder.
The From Hell movie is Johnny Depp insulting Cockneys for two hours.
Corr blimey governor
I still ought to finish it.
From hell took a big steaming pile of shite on the comic version.
If Blue Harvest goes on hiatus, I hope reminding us about John Depp's untimely demise while filming The Lone Ranger takes its place
I think that's a crime 🤔
@@jacktadash Blue Harvest going on haitus IS a crime!
RODNEY!!
Of all the wild things they've done, insisting Johnny Depp died years ago would be one of the strangest, but surprisingly hilarious ones.
@@jacktadash What is?
RIP Johnny Depp. Would have loved to see him play like a wizard or even some kind of adventuring pirate, I think he could pulled one of those off.
pulling off wizards and pirates is one of his main hobbies nowadays i believe
Pretty sure he played that pirate well before he tragically died during the making of Lone Ranger. Shame about the wizard, though.
Well good thing he did play an adventuring pirate.
He definitely could, without even a single drop of rum!
The end of Blue Harvest is devastating, but the hope of a Blue Harvest 2: Bluer Harvest keeps me going. That and the Rodney super cut, please don’t let that bit go
And here I thought it would be Blue Harvester. I mean there are way too many green harvesters out there.
Gonna be Harvest 2:Electric Bluegaloo
Here’s a fun little tidbit. while creating fake blood on set, someone tainted the mixture with a dye turning it a dark blue. The crew then had to remove all all the blue blood from the set and deemed the occurrence the blue harvest.
From Hell may just be Moore’s best work, or at least it’s a close second to Watchmen. I recommend scrolling to the back and looking at the authors notes as you read. It’s such a dense text, and despite the ultimate basis of the story being fictional, very well sourced.
The way Moore sets up this decade as being the turning point for the modern world is unbelievably chilling.
For me Marvelman doesn't get enough love so From Hell has to get pushed down slightly but as far as adaptations of Alan Moore's works that have left me angry it's definitely top two.
@@cupguin Marvelman is too fucking underrated
@@cupguin I haven't read any of Moore's work that isn't self-contained (Swamp Thing, Marvelman, etc.) - what's the best way to read it?
@@AdmiralBobbery123 Alan Moore's run on Marvelman is entirely self contained...mostly. All you really need to know is the original UK comic series started when Fawcett stopped printing Captain Marvel and the UK publisher needed a replacement. The end result was a 1950s comic aimed at kids who hopefully wouldn't notice the difference between a hero that transformed after saying Kimota instead of Shazam. Then Eclipse let Alan Moore get his hands on the characters at the start of the Thatcher era and let him do what he wanted. There's a run by Gaiman but as Moore said, he was going to fix everything. Also great but a radically different run that branches away from where Moore leaves things rather than a direct sequel.
It's also easily the most convoluted publishing drama in comics history that starts with Captain Marvel and ends with Marvel republishing Marvelman as Miracleman. So it's not complicated to follow the story but it was hard to find for years. I can't say I'm upset that it wasn't turned into a bad movie but I am annoyed the drama pushed one of the best comic series ever written into obscurity.
It's good bc it isn't just "what if protagonist man bad because punching people also bad?" like most of his stuff
Hi, old Northamptonian here, who grew up with Alan Moore as a local weirdo (in the best possible sense). What's real sad is that about all this is how much Moore LOVES movies and TV. I used to see him back when I was a teen working in HMV buying stacks of DVDs. Always great and enthusiastic to talk about the new stuff he was into (man, he LOVED Peep Show at the time).
Before this movie came out he was pumped for it - mate of mine at the time said he saw him in Blockbuster renting out all the Depp movies he could.
It such a shame that this, and subsequent adaptations of his work have been shit - just become another thing for him to be annoyed about.
I love the idea of him loving Peep Show idk why
@@DeathRecon97 yeah, he was a fan! He's a lovely chap - wild to think that the strange wizard man who would be in the store when I bought comics was Alan Moore. Hes just a really nice guy, shame that entertainment media has learnt is very easy to get content out of pushing his buttons.
@@DeathRecon97 Makes perfect sense tbf. Apparently he slipped a very subtle Succession reference into the last League book.
@@danghile6136 he's almost perfect for clickbait headlines because he's going to say something that's frequently complex and nuanced which you can easily misuse as an article headline. Then you just need the normal bland writing that pushes the quote further down the page and lacks any context and doesn't even pretend to explain the comicbook industry.
Oh no! A white man in the UK is annoyed about something! Whatever will we do? Such a rare thing to happen. How will we move on from this? What a tragic tale. Poor Alan, he was disappointed! Boo, and indeed, hoo. Middle-aged white men should never have to feel disappointed because that is a literal tragedy.
He loved films and then Jonny Depp did a bad one and now Alan is ruined! Poor him! He don't loike filims no more duz e? ..and thats a real tragedy and no mistake guvnor.
I just want to say special thanks to Ben and/or Lawrence for adding the error sound effect at 2:00 because I was in middle of rendering and spent a good chunk of my time looking for the multiple error messages. Thanks for the mini heart attack.
😂😂😂😂
Every week, I keep forgetting about the “Rodney” bit, but I get a good chuckle every time I see it.
Rodney still cracks me up everytime. Literally at work laughing out loud
Rodney!?
I already miss the blue harvest jokes, truly the peak of comedic joke telling
Rodney
Alan Moores Swamp Thing run was amazinggg
I love how you have Rainbow road music in the background during murder scenes :D
The real Jack the Ripper was the friends we made along the way
Alan Moore was actually Jack The Ripper he did this so he could write From Hell and later have it adapted to screen a film that he secretly loves
The fucking cut away to the Epic Rap Battles of History Jack the Ripper slayed me
More like Mr. Sunday TUESvies, amirite?
Got ‘em!
Excellent work!
No, I'm afraid that you are incorrect, sir.
Chewsvies
The compilation of that guy shouting Rodney is like 80% of the reason I continue to watch this series. Not to say Caravan of Garbage is bad - I love it - but rodney guy is just that powerful. 10:17
Absinthe isn't actually and never was poisonous. Wine and beer merchants were mad about people being into absinthe so they started a campaign that it was actually a drug. While absinthe does have wormwood in it, you would die of alcohol poisoning before you ever got high from it.
You two should cover the episode of *JLU* *For* *the* *Man* *who* *has* *Everything* at the end of this since its the one adaptation that Alan Moore actually likes.
Incredible to me that the trivia segment now has 3 running gags we have to do every video, but Blue Harvest is the one we're killing first.
I re-watched the 2010 version of The Wolfman recently, one of Universal's old initial attempts to kick-off their classical monster universe, and the inspector's name was Francis Aberline. I was told via reviews he was (loosely) based on the real-life man put in charge of the Ripper case, and the movie makes a point of establishing that as well. So now here I am, remembering "Oh yeah, Alan Moore wrote a comic about Jack the Ripper," and then laughing privately at the "coincidence" that is Wolfman Aberline being played by Hugo Weaving, who of course played V in the V for Vendetta adaptation (which I love). 😆🌹
This is my first real experience of the UA-cam comments being a "social media" thing, I think I remember seeing you in the comments of some Dr Who episode reviews where there was always some guy making a joke about how he wanted to bang one of the characters based on something that happened in that episode... like a Harbo Wholems or a Harry's Moving Media or something? How are you doing?
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Not the doctor who tuber who killed his girlfriend?
@@theonlybilge no I'm not the Dr Who tuber who killed his girlfriend???
@@esmeecampbell7396
Votesaxon is his channel.
@@theonlybilge yeah no I was thinking of Harbo Wholmes or Howl's Moving Media
“We can’t show any Jack the Ripper murder clips since we might get demonitized. Anyways here’s our weekly clip of the “Rodney!” guy getting murdered by a tree monster. “
“It came out in 2001 it’s so old” LMAO I was born in 2001 and I barely just turned 21 so this movie is old enough to drink
My friend was in a terrible one season ghost hunting show where they communed with ghosts to "solve" historical crimes. So yes, they "solved" the Jack the Ripper case episode 1.
So who was it lol
thanks for shedding some light on Alan Moore's work
Any folks down here who dig this setting and want a good version of this kind of story, I highly recommend The Knick. 1900 New York medical drama with (apparently) highly period accurate surgery procedure replication and exquisite sets. Some of the best photography I’ve seen for a television show as well.
Amazing show! It's hardly remembered now but it's bloody amazing and very memorable when you see it!
From Hell is one of the few adaptations of Moore's work that actually highlights the importance of change, malleability and compromise. This extends to the production, where a lot of plans changed, but people just weren't aware because the movie was made under the working title Blue Harvest, which happens to be the original working title of the original Star Wars.
Well played!
If you really end up dropping the Blue Harvest bit, I think you should you should replace it with "What Does Alan Moore Think of This?".
He's got a lot of opinions and I'd love to know what he thinks of Jungle Cruise.
I hope you guys cover the one adaptation of his work he liked, the episode from Justice League Unlimited covering "For the man who has everything."
It’s a very gradual process to recognize that you’re attempting to engage in genuine conversation with a partner who is using 20% of their attention to formulate their next quip. Who uses every response as an opportunity to crack wise. One of the hosts of this show is that kind of conversation partner. It is as useless to passively listen to as it would be to converse with.
How fitting you start up this new series of Alan Moore adaptations today, because yesterday I dressed up as V for Halloween this year! 🥰🎃⚔🌹
"Too many British characters with nothing to do", well you've just described the whole run of Victorian England.
I want what does Alan Moore think of this to be an ongoing segment regardless of his involvement on the week’s topic and regardless if he has ever made a public statement on the topic
"We're just gonna catfish a buncha Nazis." might be my new favorite quote of the year.
Honestly I would love to watch a movie with that tagline
I wish that LXG would make a comeback for a new generation and like, actually do a really good job with it. It's such a shame that the film from (i think) 2005 is lawded as being awful because there is so much to work with in terms of characters and the universe that it could easily be mined for content for a TV series or new set of films.
I can only imagine the infamous Dear Boss letter today...
Dear Boss,
After you're done watching this, there's a great breakdown on the historical accuracy of From Hell by History Buffs here on UA-cam. Can't recommend it enough if you're interested in seeing a comparison of true vs. false.
Jack the Ripper was actually an immortal man who later became a world renowned director creating a little known movie that was originally called Blue Harvest.
The trivia section just continues to evolve and eventually people who haven’t followed the channel will not be able to comprehend it, and I love that.
When I went to see this film, I had to leave the theatre I felt so ill. However, it was not due to the content of the film, but down to the large amount of skunk I smoked beforehand. At the time, when the cinema staff were being very kind and making sure I was okay, I was thinking "Oh this is going to end up as hype for the film- 'FROM HELL SO HORRIFIC THAT AUDIENCE MEMBERS HAD TO LEAVE!'" when I was just stoned as a wicket.
I remember thinking at the time that the movie was quite good, but when I caught a bit of it on television a few years later (whilst sober) I thought it looked like a TV movie (it was the scene with Heather Graham and Johnny Depp taking in the park)
Don't do drugs kids!
Brb gotta go do some drugs
8:29 does anyone remember that show Primeval from England? With the dinosaurs and Fleming was a lead in season 3. That show was fantastic.
Yeah man I loved that show, I owned all the toys too
Alan Moore? more like I need Alan Moore of these videos
Modern Absinthe is basically the same as Victorian-era Absinthe. The alcohol part might be a bit safer than the alcohol distilled in that era, but otherwise it's roughly the same. Also, it's not especially hallucinogenic or dangerous, it just got a bad reputation because it was popular and consumed to excess.
Jack the Ripper was a time traveling Jack Tripper(the character from Three's Company)
I guess it was Mason's turn to introduce a weird running gag that no one understands into this series.
As far as I'm concerned. Alan Moore is a real life wizard and is annoyed with eveyone on this mortal plane.
I get a kick out of Alan Moore because he's like "People who like Batman - which I wrote on once, but I wish I hadn't - they have infantile thought processes... anyway, did you know I'm a magician. Like a literal sorcerer, let me summon the snake God for you, he'll tell you all about it."
Did you know that to get all of the dye used to make the policeman outfits, the directors had to search for a specific pigment resulting in a "Blue Harvest" which also happens to be the working title for the original starwars!!
I love that my favorite Dracula (Paul Rhys) was in From Hell, and you guys covered Dracula last week.
I rewatched this recently, actually really liked it until it fell apart at the end, but just the stylised look of this world, that red sky, beautiful.
JD getting dragged to death: that bit made me figuratively literally lol out loud & laugh literally. Figuratively.
Because of where they filmed this movie, it turns out that when they would amputate prosthetic genitals from the prop dummies, because they were already grubby, they would turn blue, so this movie actually had a working title of "green trivia"
I just went for a Jack the Ripper tour last week (don't ask) and the guide kept mentioning this movie. What a coincidence to see a movie no one talked about in 2 decades mentioned again
Saga of the Swamp Thing is easily his best comic.
At 1:29, you can see Alan Moore signing copies of Nemo: Heart of Ice. Chatters, yall should *definitely* give it a read if you can get your mitts on it! Really good story, and has some of my favorite non-linear storytelling.
Always enjoyed this film, and 'From Hell' and 'Sleepy Hollow' make for one hell of a double feature!
I agree. I enjoy both films.
@@ColorFun4Me Keep your eye out for a new film called 'The Pale Blue Eye' with Christian Bale. Looks promising, and appears to have a similar vibe!
I always get them mixed up
Fun fact: did you know the only adaptation that Alan Moore respects is actually an episode of the 2002 show Birds of Prey called "pilot". For the incredible portrayal of joker and Barbara Gordon’s scene from the killing joke.
I find that hard to believe, because Alan Moore absolutely hates The Killing Joke, he hates the "fans" who constantly drone on about the ending which he says is NOT ambiguous, Batman does NOT kill the Joker nor is it implied and, he has actually said that he hates the book so much IF he had it to do over again he would not have written it.
@@lutherheggs451 yeah, that’s what makes the joke
So excited for this series of CoGs :))) smashing work boys
You cannot possibly get rid of the Blue Harvest jokes. The absolute peak of comedy.
Actually quite enjoyed this movie. I first saw it on dvd, and thought the making of the movie was quite interesting in the behind the scenes documentary on the dvd.
I love the descriptor of “Steven Moffat but boring”. This might become one of my favourite ways to describe things for those that are in the know.
I unironically love LXG as it was one of the very few DVDs I owned as a kid. Yet I have purposefully not read any of the comics so as to not ruin the lie im living in which it is a good film.
The lads hang out with Aunty Donna just a couple of times and the editors are like "ALL THE AUNTY DONNA."
Good stuff, keep it up everyone!
The Michael Caine Jack The Ripper movie is a really good one if you wanna deep dive into this whole story!
It’s probably not true but I’m going to pretend like it was my comment the other week that convinced you guys to do V For Vendetta for the week of November 5th! It’s my favorite movie of all time and you guys are my favorite UA-camrs so it’s a match made in heaven 😁
To be fair about Moore's hate of adaptations... he also hates most of the work that he himself wrote by this point. He's your grumpy grandpa, who just happens to have done some amazing stuff back in his day... but that doesn't mean he won't shake his fist at every single passing cloud.
I've been waiting for you guys to do LXG for years. I am so incredibly psyched!!!! I loved that horrible film so much when I was a young lad. I had it on dvd later, but I had a pirate copy of it. You couldn't really see anything in the dark scenes. Beautiful. I CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT VIDEO! I'm going to rewatch it immediately.
I'm also very excited about the V for vendetta video, but that film is quite good.
Oh he died! That's why Johnny Depp isn't in movies anymore.
Suddenly I have a sick desire for film adaptations of Moore’s other works like Lost Girls, Miracle Man, Swamp Thing, and his very first comic book project: Blue Harvest. Which as we all know was also the working title for the first Star Wars 💙🌾
Dang Johnny Depp been dead all this time, that's crazy and some of that old time medicine was interesting, you have a headache and go to the doctor and you might leave with no legs🤣
I always listen to these in a different tab, and that damn Rodney montage gets me every time.
RIP Robbie Coltrane, he will be missed
Since the inception of their Star Wars episode, the duo at Mr Sunday Movies conducted a running joke during their Green Trivia segments wherein they told a fabricated story about the movie at hand that ended with the mention of "Blue Harvest" which coincidentally enough was the working title for the original Star Wars.
I think it's pretty clear that Jack the Ripper was whoever was publishing stories about Jack the Ripper during the murders, because how would they know his name was Jack the Ripper?
@@therocketboost They are still NEVER going to find out who he is....I don't know why grifters every once and awhile claim to have uncovered some "new" DNA evidence..ANY DNA evidence from that time would no longer be viable for anything, cops were a joke when it came to investigations back then so crime scenes were likely contaminated beyond belief anyway and, everyone from that time period is dead....Its one of those mysteries that will never be solved.
So excited to see how they tie blue harvest into this weeks green trivia
Sad that Johnny Depp died. He was really great in the EXACTLY ONE Pirates of the Caribbean movie they made
Huh I guess that Naiome Harris playing a sexy witchy goddess really WAS a sexual fever dream then....
I've often wondered if the Ripper was ultimately killed by a pimp or somebody else from the street community who wouldn't report it, and the body was disposed of and never connected to the murders.
The problem with adaptations to film, is there is always studio people who think they know better about what should be filmed as opposed to what made the source material successful. Sometimes you have to change some things, but so many movies suffer from extreme changes to the material.
Nah. The problem with adaptations are the people who have a hard time grasping that its an adaptation. Some things are not budget friendly to film, some things are not at all feasible to actually film, some things in a novel or drawn in a picture book look or sound good as they are described or drawn, but would absolutely look awful on a real human being in real life i.e. a guy wearing a green onesie and a giant yellow star on his head being called Electro.
The majority of "major changes" in adaptations aren't done because studio people FACTUALLY know better than pie in the sky, unlimited budget screw reality. Alot of things might sound great on the page but not at all great when you actually want to make it a reality.
It would be great if every time James says "it's time for Green Trivia", the Rodney Supercut just plays as the opening titles for Green Trivia with no context whatsoever
I think I may be able to shine some light on the Jack the Ripper case. My great-great-great-great-grandfather was alive at the time. And my family has several of his possession still in storage. Among the items is an old thick coat which would have been out of fashion even at the time. The coat combined with a hat and cane would have made him look like an older and harmless man. He would have been able to pass through society without attention. But, more interesting is a diary that was found inside the pocket of the coat. My family is hesitant to discuss this for obvious reasons. But, the diary is full of semi-coherent ramblings about different "societal ills". Chief amongst them was the belief that some women were evil spirits sent to cause disharmony. This seems to be because his mother left after his father was found to have hired a sex worker. This seems to have left a deep scar on him. But, most troubling is a small note in the margins of the red-stained pages. The note says, "I am the one they call Jack the Ripper though I have never been fond of that name. For the sake of the family's reputation, I would like the contents of this diary to remain secret for a century and a half. Until it can be shared on an as-of-yet uninvented platform that can allow two Australian chaps to discuss popular media."
this is fake.
everyone knows Jack the Ripper was known as the Blue harvest ripper at first
for his targeting of french people
I honestly could not believe this comment didn't end in another blue harvest joke.
With that pin in the "blue harvest" bit, i'm looking forward to hearing "blue harvest" shouted during the "what are we reading" theme song.
I feel like in the US, “The Alienist” is the closest we got to a From Hell TV series.
Alan Moore is often seen in and around Northampton Town centre. And doing some food shopping in the local Marks & Spencer Food near Phippsville. In the 90s he played in a band called Emperors of Ice Cream.
I love the channel! Keep up the awesome work!
I met Alan Moore a few years ago at a screening forthe first release of his anthology movie Showpieces. Afterwards there was a Q+A and the host said "Now, we're only here to talk about the film, so if you have any questions about what Alan thinks of Watchmen or V for Vendetta please don't raise them here or we'll never leave." And everyone laughed (after half the audience put their hands down). I think the one thing that a lot of written quotes from Alan Moore miss is he's quite self-aware and very tongue in cheek. Everything is said with a bit of a knowing nod to his perception in culture media.
Rest in Peace Johnny! We will never know what you would have been like if you lived. Naturally I'm sure based on your charisma you would have been a role model to men.
I'm surprised you didnt mention that when blood no longer carries oxygen it turns blue. When the ripper cuts throats before harvesting organs the organs would have an in natural blueish tint, resulting in the removal of organs being referred to as a "blue harvest", the production name for this film and for the origional starwars, given how much difficulty George Lucas was having making the film, he compared it to that process in it's working title.
I zoned out for a sec then tuned in as you were saying "We're just gonna catfish a bunch of Nazis into watching this" and man, there's some contextual whiplash going on.
I will NEVER get tired of this gentleman yelling Rodney
i love the very specific 1 second long clip of always sunny that was spliced in
From Hell, Chapter 4, ''What Doth the Lord require of thee?'' One of the most fascinating chapters in the whole story ;p
0:56 He gets all of the credit. He's the only comic book writer I know.
I was just reading Alan Moores Judgement Day at the Laundromat. It's the Intro book to the Awesome Comics universe. Idk how Moore and Liefeld work so well together. They're such different dudes
"Choo choo, the Robbie Coltrain has stopped" Not sure how I feel about this but I laughed.
😂😂 Scab Labour paying to write Batman is the best thing I e ever heard. Love Alan Moore❤