So You're New To Healing in XIV...

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  • @skibrymhabor2440
    @skibrymhabor2440 3 роки тому +110

    I picked healing back up recently, and I've accepted two things that greatly helped me: 1. You can't always save everyone and 2. Other people's mistakes are not your fault.

    • @Krojack76
      @Krojack76 3 роки тому +8

      Quinn (aka @quinrex) would say otherwise on your #2 statement there.

    • @Albatross0913
      @Albatross0913 3 роки тому +4

      Good for mental health too tbh

    • @Vorcera
      @Vorcera Рік тому

      I realized that as well after my first wipe and tank dying.
      I was apologetic about it because I thought I made a mistake. But the tank just brushed it off with an "Don't worry about it :) It happens".
      And after getting wiped another time by a tank who just kept running away from me the 2 dps'rs at the end told me I did great keeping up with him and that it must have been stressful for me.
      The fact that the community just go crazy on you when you make a mistake is refreshing and really helps getting into the job.

  • @silvinity4939
    @silvinity4939 3 роки тому +381

    Knowing that the life of your party rests in your hands will gradually go from intimidating to empowering.

    • @UltaFlame
      @UltaFlame 3 роки тому +3

      I like power and I like feeling powerful-

    • @zurajanaisephirothda3886
      @zurajanaisephirothda3886 3 роки тому +29

      For me it went past from empowering to annoying like stop getting hit by those telegraphed aoes or why do I have to raise you for the 6th time alrdy

    • @vex4859
      @vex4859 3 роки тому +10

      Laughs in paladin

    • @dog6fame
      @dog6fame 3 роки тому +2

      Let the black mage die

    • @shenacarter7987
      @shenacarter7987 3 роки тому +5

      @@vex4859 I main tank as Paladin and I legit have tears in my eyes laughing.

  • @Sameji
    @Sameji 3 роки тому +260

    White Mage: I only heal these pathetic mortals to nourish the blood lily.

    • @manbearpigsereal
      @manbearpigsereal 3 роки тому +2

      pfft i don't even do that i spend my lilies on myself between pulls/phases

    • @lonewulf0328
      @lonewulf0328 3 роки тому +11

      Blood for the Blood Lily!

    • @HyouVizer
      @HyouVizer 3 роки тому +3

      Yes all to power our Death Flower! 🌼 💀 🌼
      (Afflatus Misery)

    • @adrjaco
      @adrjaco 3 роки тому +2

      They are but fertilizer

  • @Flaky1990
    @Flaky1990 3 роки тому +71

    Me when I started healing: "Oh wow I'm really nervous about this, I hope my party is okay with me as a healer!"
    Me healing 3 patches later:"Lets see how low I can let the tank drop before he panics!"

    • @zunseah
      @zunseah 3 роки тому +4

      Lol.. im as a PLD main.. always facing this probelm, and healing myself instead 😂

    • @whwhywhywhywhywhywhy
      @whwhywhywhywhywhywhy 2 роки тому +8

      @@zunseah switch to dark knight and you won't have the self heal to panick with

    • @NekoYuki
      @NekoYuki 2 роки тому +4

      Me, a gunbreaker: *SUPERBOLIDE!!!!!!*

    • @Terixofevermore
      @Terixofevermore 2 роки тому +3

      Me the warrior: I am the healer!

    • @Vorcera
      @Vorcera Рік тому

      To be fair I never tried that. I do know the dungeons I play and know for instance that the dragon dungeon at lvl 45 is a mess to go through XD
      Man the tanks love to pull almost half the dungeon and then die almost instantly XD

  • @hkoizumi3134
    @hkoizumi3134 3 роки тому +61

    If you want to traditional healer, try Blue mage healer in Blue mage raid. I have gray hairs to prove it.

  • @EndanDrachon
    @EndanDrachon 3 роки тому +74

    In my experience, the low level dungeons are good at slowly allowing you to improve and get better. Until Cutter's Cry, specifically the last boss, which is a vile demon from hell.

    • @MrDeathmansir
      @MrDeathmansir 3 роки тому +11

      Damn cutters cry was my first hard dungeon as a healer, the last boss took a bit to adjust to and the tank had to explain the mechanic to me twice, we only won after the party died and the dragoon clutched it out last second thankfully.

    • @patroison1
      @patroison1 3 роки тому +8

      @@MrDeathmansir Thinking about it, Cutter's Cry was the first tough dungeon I ran as a healer. Aurum Vale still has the honor of being the first truly terrifying dungeon I ran as a healer. I ran it back when the second boss, The Coin Collector?, didn't have the ground markers.
      It hurt. A lot.

    • @irochaossomalee
      @irochaossomalee 3 роки тому +1

      Freakin hate that boss

    • @uglydayfif
      @uglydayfif 3 роки тому +3

      @@patroison1 Playing back through with my kids and I told them about the horrors of that boss fight. We of course facerolled him easily now but he was nearly a rage quit boss for me way back when.

    • @Miksho7
      @Miksho7 3 роки тому +16

      Damn, just ran Cutter's Cry for the first time ever last night. I'm a lvl 75 DRG at the ShB content, but my WHM just hit 40 and I hit Cutter's in roulette; never ran it as my main.
      Oh. My. GOD. We wiped like 7 times! My tank seemed to take damage faster than I could heal even with Cure II. My damage spells did nothing. Our machinist kept dying and refused to ever come closer than their max range, so the boss' AOE kept killing them, and I'd die trying to raise them back. We only won when I just let them stay dead.
      And then I finally understood what I had been doing to everyone else as a Dragoon.

  • @peppermint7152
    @peppermint7152 3 роки тому +41

    Healer main here. WHM to be specific, with solid experience on AST and some on SCH, all to at least a savage raiding level.
    I think one of the most crucial things for new healers to learn is that abilities are to be used. You shouldn't use them all at once, no, but you should try to rotate them in the same way a tank would so that you can use them sequentially, roughly on cooldown. Don't save that Benediction or Temperance for an emergency. Use them when you need them.
    Put another way, try to use your abilities as often as you can in every fight without any unnecessary overlap.
    Above the normal content level, there are some exceptions where you may want to hold certain cooldowns for a little longer, e.g. Temperance to mitigate an especially dangerous raidwide. But even then, your mitigation timeline should look to use Temperance as close to on cooldown as possible after its initial use (ideally early into the fight).
    Oh, and one nitpick to an otherwise solid video. Please do NOT save Divine Benison for tankbusters. This is a common misconception among newer white mage players, and you're absolutely shooting yourself in the foot if you do that. You should instead use Divine Benison as close to on cooldown as possible without clipping your GCD (i.e. after a Dia or lily). The cooldown is very short, and the total shielded value not all that great; it doesn't exist to save tanks from tankbusters so much as give them added sustain throughout the fight.

    • @Vorcera
      @Vorcera Рік тому

      Im currently trying to get comfy with higher lever dungeons at lvl 50 with my scholar.
      Really trying to learn how to rotate my bariers and use my AOE heals when I know the enemy will be AOEing as well XD

  • @soli6026
    @soli6026 3 роки тому +34

    Some tips I thought I could add:
    -Make sure to try and resolve mechanics first before trying to do things that will take away your attention aka raising.
    -It’s okay to overheal, just try and make sure to cut it down next time if it’s not needed. Better to play it safe.
    -If things go wrong, don’t panic just calm down and assess the situation and see what you can do.
    -Before you resurrect people, make sure the party is healed up and ready to take
    oncoming attacks, especially the tank.
    -If a mechanic will prevent you from raising don’t try and raise, throw another dps spell, heal or move out the way so you can begin raising. Don’t forget to heal them as well, no point raising for them to die again if you healing them would’ve kept them alive!

    • @SubduedRadical
      @SubduedRadical 3 роки тому +8

      One trick I learned early on:
      Put some "always useful heal" in a button you can reach it easily. If your brain ever "shorts out" and you can't think of something to push, push that button.
      I used Medica 2 for this on WHM. The reason is this - sometimes you get stressed when a lot's going on and just DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. How the Human brain responds to stress is to try to lock up while analyzing the situation for the "best" response. But this creates a "deer in the headlights" situation where you just sit there drooling until something snaps you out of it.
      ...well, having a 2.5 sec cast thing to push does a few things here. First and most important, since it's a muscle memory thing you just remember to always do when you lock up, it gives you an action to take and snaps your brain back to action. This is even more important than it being a useful heal, since this is what gets your brain going again. Second, while it's casting, it gives you time to think. 2.5 sec isn't a LONG time, but it's long enough to take a quick stock of the situation, consider if you need to do something like Swiftcast+Raise the other healer, put a shield on the tank (or yourself), use a big cooldown like Benediction or Temperance, if the boss is casting some mechanic you need to get your butt moving to avoid being hit by, and so on. It gives you this 2.5 second "lower stress" window where your brain knows you are doing SOMETHING useful to take stock of the situation and decide on your next course of action. Third, if you picked a USEFUL ability here, it can prevent the situation getting worse. Medica 2 is a good choice because it's a moderately beefy heal, it has a very wide range so you don't have to think about or use it on a specific target, and the HoT tick means for the next 15 seconds it's continuing to be useful to you.
      I developed this trick a while back, and every prospective healer I've shared it with told me later it was really helpful. Even now that I'm much more experienced and better as a healer, sometimes when the S hits the F, I find having this little Medica 2 trick can be very helpful.
      I don't know if it's some psychology thing or just a coping mechanism for me personally...but it's probably one of the more useful tips I've ever come up with or seen/shared.

    • @shenacarter7987
      @shenacarter7987 3 роки тому +1

      Awesome tips! I will keep these in mind. I'm trying to get better at healing but I panic so bad. Thanks!

    • @gamester512
      @gamester512 3 роки тому +1

      And if there happens to be a Summoner and/or Red Mage in your party, they might even chip in and help you with a bit of spot healing as well (I main RDM, and if I notice that a party member getting low on HP, I'll happily toss a Vercure or two their way), and in the case of an ally actually dying, I'll try to Dualcast into Verraise to hopefully spare the Healer(s) the trouble (and MP cost) of reviving them themselves.
      Though speaking of which, I wonder if my playing a Red Mage that way would make it easier for me to learn to play a Healer (I play DPS the vast majority of the time, though I've begun dabbling in Gunbreaker to try something new)?

  • @ChamberK-1
    @ChamberK-1 3 роки тому +15

    As someone who’s never healed before and is planning on taking up Sage, this is really useful.

  • @Darby7
    @Darby7 3 роки тому +7

    Something else i feel like is important to learn but can take a bit of practise is learning to be proactive. I see a lot of new healers not healing until they see a tank get to a certain % of health, but they underestimate how fast the tank is taking damage and its often too late by the time they start casting the heal. I think it's important for healers to take note of how fast a tank's health is dropping to plan in advance when they need the heal as opposed to just waiting until they get low enough. This also works for boss mechanics too, like if you learn what boss spells are raidwides/tankbusters you can start casting midway through the boss channel time so when it goes off your heal follows a split second later which can be pretty satisfying.

    • @aliasonarcotics
      @aliasonarcotics 3 роки тому

      this is a really important skill to have when you are playing the early dungeons, i also recommend checking the tank's gear when the duty starts to know ahead of time what sort of damage you'll need to heal for. this is more important for whm/cnj, and sch before they get lustate and excog. ast can mostly ignore this completely as long as they have dignity waiting in the wings, as they get it at lv15, which is when the earliest dungeon is available
      however, just like ast and sch, once whm gets more of its tools, it really shouldn't be hardcasting heals (i.e. non-instant spells like cure2 or medica2) most of the time. like the video said, the vast majority of content don't output damage rapidly enough to warrant this, so throwing out an asylum or waiting the remaining 15 seconds or whatever for assize to come back up is better than using medica 2. waiting to heal is fine as long as you know you're in the clear

    • @Vorcera
      @Vorcera Рік тому

      I have no clue if I am doing it right, but my thoughts at the moment during battles is mostly, as scholar:
      - place faery if possible and use blessing
      - place sacred soil as close to the enemy while taking the raged dps'rs in mind.
      And from there use Adlo to proactively keep a shield on the tanks and sometimes use succor if there is space for that.
      Emergency heal with Lustrate and using Fey Illumination when the battle is going a bit and the whispering dawn is ending.
      And just keep an eye on everybody while keeping Lucid dreaming up and trying to put the Bio2 on the enemy whenever I can.
      It is working but sometimes my fights might get bad luck and someone makes a mistake (or me) and things might go down fast.
      And just like you said, some tanks fly in and pull half the dungeon and expect you to keep them alive XD which is not working to well for me yet.

  • @Lancun
    @Lancun 2 роки тому +2

    Scholar is...extremely hard for me to get used to for wall-to-wall pulls. I leveled WHM a bit, but Holy spamming to make the damage never happen in the first place spoiled me.
    I get that, as a shield healer, you cast Adlo first to prevent any damage in the first place, but that shield dies very quickly. After that, it's alternating between Adlo and my Aetherflow heals, Physick if those are on cooldown. I barely have any time to fit in an Art of War.
    It feels like I'm doing something wrong. My gear is all up to date. The incoming damage is just insane though. I just started the Heavensward dungeons and I really am trying to figure out what to do while I wait for the better abilities.

  • @jjgaddi
    @jjgaddi 3 роки тому +3

    I like your calming voice describing the most anxious-filled job. Picked up healing a few months ago, and I can never go back. I thought AST is more interesting, but since my WHM is 70+, I have more "oh-shit" heals and I enjoy WHM more now.

  • @densha63
    @densha63 3 роки тому +33

    I maxed my healers to 80 but I still feel overwhelmed by it specially when playing AST and no, I am not confident when healing XD I always tend to over-Regen my party as well even if not needed to. Not really my forte but I want to learn all the jobs so that I can be flexible when it needs to be :D

    • @SapphireDragon357
      @SapphireDragon357 3 роки тому +5

      I mean, I absolutely over-regen my party, because the single-target and aoe regens stack and I don't need to heal the tank for the next 18 seconds guaranteed. :P

    • @koboshi38
      @koboshi38 3 роки тому +3

      took me some time to get into AST but now its my favorite healer. In many ways its similar to WHM but you have the cards and light speed is really great when things start going bad

    • @knightofastora916
      @knightofastora916 3 роки тому

      You're in luck then, they already dumbed down AST and will do it even more with Endwalker.

    • @Vorcera
      @Vorcera Рік тому +1

      @@SapphireDragon357 thats how i feel as well. Not overhealing per se, as I am getting more and more comfy with the faeries healing. but definitely will put Galvanize on the tank or party with succor when I have nothing to do. like during moments where the boss fights fall silent in preparation for some move.
      Rather have the party have some form of regen or shield before things go wrong then facepalming myself after

  • @fernando5819
    @fernando5819 3 роки тому +8

    Placing your party and alliance list next to the center of the screen like shown on this video helps a lot on healing classes, makes easier to keep attention on mechanics and to everyone's hp at the same time

    • @mirageowl
      @mirageowl Рік тому +1

      one of my favourite aspects in this game. Playing Tank? Make sure the enemy cast bar is right in front of your eyes. Playing Healer? Grab those party names to the middle, make them larger and easy to click. Exploring overworld? Have everything small and to the side and enjoy the sights. Really let's me pick and choose what I want to focus on when I want.

  • @amouramarie
    @amouramarie 3 роки тому +5

    That little line above the debuff means it can be removed with esuna -- THANK YOU. I wondered what the heck that was.
    I still need to learn what the healer aoe effects look like so I don't move out of them in fear

    • @siggejohansson7968
      @siggejohansson7968 3 роки тому +1

      I feel like a good rule of thumb is that if it's light green or light blue it's good to stand in, and if it's not it's bad. True, I'm fairly new to this game; only at lvl 53 WHM and just started Heavensward content, but I've played quite a few MMOs over the years, and it seems to hold true for many of them.

  • @AlshepType
    @AlshepType 3 роки тому +42

    "No one should expect you to be an experts when healing." Ah you see that's where you are wrong almost everyone does.

    • @EvaHoshizora
      @EvaHoshizora 2 роки тому

      Ever since I came back recently, I feel that.
      Doing 8 people raids is painful because I am legit solo healing, the second healer is doing nothing lately, and I'm unsure why.

    • @whwhywhywhywhywhywhy
      @whwhywhywhywhywhywhy 2 роки тому

      @@EvaHoshizora on the flip side if you both do something everyone gets double the heals they need and the dps goes down a touch

  • @ragerblade82
    @ragerblade82 3 роки тому +6

    Even if you are not a healer, you play a DPS or a Tank. Learning how healing works can only improve your game also. So this is a great video all around.

  • @jackjohnson8305
    @jackjohnson8305 3 роки тому +43

    Just started leveling WHM a few weeks ago and everything was going well but then i got to lvl 50+ which is when the content starts getting really tough and i just couldn't handle it tbh the anxiety that i got as a healer was way worse than when i had tanking anxiety, when im the tank at least i know the healer's got my back but when im the healer nobody's got mine i gotta take care of everyone, watch the tank and keep an eye out on the DPS's and don't even get me started on alliance raids it was a mess, i stopped leveling it a few days ago and its been stuck at lvl 55 ever since, hopefully i'll get the courage to pick it back up someday.
    PS: i just wanna say that you healer mains are lucky af the queue times for healers are instant on my server i literally just join and immediately get thrown into a dungeon its amazing.

    • @Fordster1994
      @Fordster1994 3 роки тому +2

      I feel this. honestly tanking and dps are easy laid back roles compared to healing, but it is just a matter of practice, I still get so much anxiety healing SHB dgns but its does get better with time and for WHM in particular it gets nicer as you get more ogcds to heal with I used those as my oh shit buttons for a long time till I got more comfortable with healing and now use them as my main healing skills

    • @UltaFlame
      @UltaFlame 3 роки тому

      What data center are you on?

    • @KumiChan2004
      @KumiChan2004 3 роки тому +5

      This is a pretty good guide.
      When haps says to take your time and get comfortable with the jobs, really do. Along with that read and understand your abilities.
      Your first priority should be to keep your party alive. Even if you do over heal some, for most of the game it isn't a huge deal.
      Keep in mind that regens give you a lot of agro automatically per tic. Try to not put a regen on the tank before a pull. As you learn more you'll be able to tell when you can. Along with that, on any job, if you get agro, move to the tank. Not away.
      Second priority is gear. A lower levels gear tends to not last very long. Since you'll out level it fairly fast. But at higher levels, 50+ you always want to make sure you're upgrading. I can push my gear to be 5 levels lower then the dungeon level. But for newer players I would suggest NOT doing that, you have to be skilled with healing to do that. I would say keep your gear no more than 2 levels lower than the suggested level for the fight. The exception being if your lower level gear has a higher item level. ilevel>gear level.
      Third. Actually, knowing tank abilities. Knowing that Hollow ground is the best ability in the game is good, and noticing your tank using it can allow you to know when you'll need to heal. Knowing that Superbolide is good but you need to be ready to heal the gunbreaker is also good to keep in mind, personally I love/hate this skill cause I've lost a lot of benedictions to it.
      Forth. Is understanding the abilities of the other healers. This isn't required. But knowing that if scholar has a shield on the party and the party still has a good bit of damage missing means you have time to react can save a fight.
      BUT the most important thing to remember is to have fun!

    • @LolaLink
      @LolaLink 3 роки тому +8

      Just as a head's up, I'm very comfortable bringing WHM into level 80 dungeons blind now. But level 50 healing is still stressful. The kit really is pushed to the limit before you get new abilities. And don't be afraid to ask the tank to do smaller pulls in later content.
      I also suggest watching mechanic guides before whatever you queue for. You may be "spoiled", but I found that it made me feel less stressed.

    • @jackjohnson8305
      @jackjohnson8305 3 роки тому +2

      @@Fordster1994 I hear a lot of good things about WHM as it levels up with its OGCD's thats why i picked it up im just really anxious when playing it im constantly looking at the screen making sure that everybody is alive and i can't for the life of me balance both DPSing and healing cuz as soon as i start DPSing i see that the tank's health is low or that the DPS is dead so i panic and drop everything and just heal heal heal and ahhhh!! lol its just stressful but hopefully i get better at it

  • @Ellyll8T
    @Ellyll8T 3 роки тому +3

    I love these guides! I remember thinking healing was pretty easy, & then I went into Bardam's Mettle for the first time, and the tank pulled everything. I'm pretty sure I cried. But it did make me learn how to maximize my healing better! It took me a LONG time to accept I should use my lilies or lustrate - I deeply wanted to hoard them. And for every class, I had a hard time accepting to use abilities on cooldown (for the most part) I'd think, 'But I might NEED to jump!" Oh - and I also like to use Holy on mobs, assuming they're stunnable, and once the tank has them nicely round up. I love all 3 healers, but it's Assize that makes me happiest.

  • @KersplosionLlawchwith
    @KersplosionLlawchwith 3 роки тому +46

    I remember a guy I met in HW that literally macroed every single heal for every single party slot, to . I was dying just listening to them.

    • @HyouVizer
      @HyouVizer 3 роки тому +1

      So every time they healed it was a party message for it? Like: "healer name healed tank name with Cure 2" something like that?

    • @atheistium
      @atheistium 3 роки тому +1

      I think the occasional macro is not hte end of the world (I hate them still) but if someone has exsessive macros on all their skills I report them. This is purely done to annoy people, there's no other reason to do it other than to upset others.

    • @Poldovico
      @Poldovico 3 роки тому +2

      @@atheistium Macros aren't just for adding messages, they can change the way you target certain spells. A classic is DRK's Salted Earth on target.

    • @ryno4ever433
      @ryno4ever433 3 роки тому +2

      @@atheistium Yea, they're talking about targeting macros, not messaging macros.

    • @roddlez
      @roddlez 3 роки тому +1

      This could be furthered improved with bongo sound effects. XD

  • @RaionOwO
    @RaionOwO 3 роки тому +21

    I don't heal but as a new tank I find it really helpful to know what my partner (who is my healer) has to deal with xD

    • @HyouVizer
      @HyouVizer 3 роки тому +3

      Yep yep and remember to stay in healers ground healing aoes like stated 👍

    • @jayr5mitty351
      @jayr5mitty351 3 роки тому +1

      Precisely why I have a main in each role. I did it initially to understand what they each have to work with during encounters. Will dramatically improve your gameplay

  • @ladwarcoffee
    @ladwarcoffee 3 роки тому +4

    I live by the "did you die" motto. Because a large proportion of fights don't have live or die mechanics, at least for 4 or 8 man content. Also its good to remember that out of combat regen is pretty high and you don't need to heal in between pulls or heal up at the end of a pull for the next one. Heck even in combat regen could be enough to weather a few odd AOEs so you don't need to heal after every one, but thats more towards fight knowledge which comes with time.

  • @SageJMP
    @SageJMP 3 роки тому +3

    I personally use mouse over macros. Since most of my healing is done through oGCDs, the latency thing isn't really an issue, just got to get used to what each spell's "sounds" are when they get casted to know when to stop spamming the spell/macro and be able to queue up the next Malefic GCD. It allows me to keep the boss targeted 100% of the time.

  • @VinceVanished
    @VinceVanished 3 роки тому +5

    Been a healer in every game I’ve played and it’s the must taunting and empowering thing at the same time….
    White mage for life!

  • @skyesfury8511
    @skyesfury8511 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the polite approach to DPSing as a Healer. Far too often people turn toxic about this, DEMANDING that Healers ARE REQUIRED to dps. That makes people who are nervous about trying a Healer not want to touch it at all.

  • @dat1kid414
    @dat1kid414 3 роки тому +1

    one thing to remember as whm specifically holy stuns most trash mobs that are not resistant to cc. Alternating holy and cures on tank can cancel all ground aoes as the cast is stunned and any attacks on the tank are insta healed. does not work in all situations, but works in many

    • @SacredDaturaa
      @SacredDaturaa 2 роки тому

      Holy is such a great spell. Every second a mob is stunned is a second they're not damaging the tank, which can give you them some valuable respite.

  • @jayr5mitty351
    @jayr5mitty351 3 роки тому +1

    This is a great intro guide happz! I approve 😎
    I've been healing since ARR and made the horrible mistake of maining Sch while knowing absolutely nothing about healing and if you wish to heal the hard way, that is it lol(early on)
    Just plz remember this tip: adlo>physic
    You are a SHIELD healer. Your shield is stronger than your heal

  • @cmciff4054
    @cmciff4054 2 роки тому

    New player here, wow refugee and starting out the game as conjurer/white mage. Really appreciate the video as I’m getting started.

  • @Lord_Raviel
    @Lord_Raviel 3 роки тому +2

    I feel like for healer DPS a good starting point is to get into muscle memory the spamming of your DPS button any time you arent specifically doing something else. You can allways interupt the DPS spell cast chile learning to cast a heal when it is needed and doing this it stops you standing there doing nothing.

    • @JohnDCrafton
      @JohnDCrafton 3 роки тому

      as a summoner main I already got used to that from spamming ruin when I didn't have any other buttons to press

  • @Vorcera
    @Vorcera Рік тому

    I'm the person who used to be very introverted so never played MMO's.
    The games that I did play, I never chose any sort of healing stuff as the AI party members usually were fine.
    After playing FF14 ARR halfway through to about 35 as a black mage I wanted to do something else. or at least try.
    Then I saw that Summoner was fun and wanted to go for that.
    As I was getting more and more into the Arcanist job I started to see that Scholar was also an option.
    And just to challenge myself AND because of the great support from the guys in the Novice Network, I started trying out healing.
    I basically started training the role with lower level dungeons in the dungeon roulette. I was basically poking my head in the healer job around lvl 16 to 25.
    Nothing to dangerous and dungeons I have played before that were hardly a challenge.
    After doing some and telling everybody I was new, AND tanks responding positively with things like "Np :) will take it easy" or "Sure thing boss, won't pull to much. just take your time" was very encouraging.
    Then I thought I would try the first higher level dungeons where more skills were available.
    I watched videos about scholar up to lvl 50 which I was.
    So went to lvl 35 to 45 and that was more challenging. Got some wipes, some people died but never a bad word at all.
    Now I am getting more and more comfortable at healing but still say im learning when starting out. Though sometimes I know what will happen and am good to not say anything about it.
    I want to do a video about it myself, as it might help other like me but it has been very awesome to become the healer and suddenly having the responsibility for the party.
    I am proactively learning about tanks as well, though I don't really like to play it myself.
    But great video and the way you explain it and how to go about learning is precisely how I did it :)
    Cheers!

  • @h3lladvocate
    @h3lladvocate 3 роки тому +2

    That ruby weapon clip was some exceptionally special SCH play

  • @dustinhatfield8373
    @dustinhatfield8373 3 роки тому +1

    My favorite greeting these days as a healer is "Happy No Heal November!"

  • @gala6308
    @gala6308 3 роки тому +2

    i main tank, which means keeping the party safe is my responsibility. i find it fun and rewarding. i recently picked up healer, which means keeping the party safe is my responsibility. i have literally never been more terrified in my life

  • @vermelody
    @vermelody 3 роки тому

    I've mained WHM since I started playing ffxiv around 5ish months ago. Today I saved two 80 dungeons back to back. A couple days ago, I used LB3 to salvage a boss pull in alliance raids. One of the biggest tips I can give is not to panic. You can impress a lot of people by just playing for time and tanking some hits to get your party back in shape...It's also much easier to blame your teammates when you're confident you did everything within your power to save the run lmao.

  • @drftkng.
    @drftkng. 2 роки тому

    This was great, always played a dps in other MMOs, but started with healer in FF and so far am having a blast.

  • @LemonedIScream13
    @LemonedIScream13 3 роки тому +5

    This video popped up right after I became SCH last night. Somehow it eases my worry about being a new healer.

    • @jayr5mitty351
      @jayr5mitty351 3 роки тому

      As a fellow sch main, plz remember: contrary to what you may believe, adlo>physic. Sch is a "shield" healer and as such, your shield is better than your heal. You may think that the 1000mp is a lot but trust me, it's because it's more op than you may initially realize. 😎

    • @godsplayingfield
      @godsplayingfield 3 роки тому +1

      scholar main here. to add on to what JayR said. shields are amazing. they sit on top of your current health so in a sense Scholar's dont have to worry as much about over healing. example: a tank is at 80K out of 100K. you heal for 30K every adlo. use adlo on them, thats usually 10K wasted right? sure, but you also get 50K shield, so now the tank currently has 150K health. if you crit then the shield doubles and now they have 200K health thanks to 100K shield. this is awesome.
      and for general healing, a succor into whispering dawn is fantastic. the shield will stop them from getting HP damage while the regen takes them back up to full. hopefully before they run out of shield.
      my only real complaint with scholar is i want higher crit chance on the heals. we have an ability that gives our next heal a 100% chance to crit, but a base line crit chance increase would be amazing and would fix a lot of the "scholar healing potency sucks!" complaints -.-

    • @jayr5mitty351
      @jayr5mitty351 3 роки тому

      @@godsplayingfield agreed
      And it's kinda bs that succor can't galv 😒

    • @godsplayingfield
      @godsplayingfield 3 роки тому

      @@jayr5mitty351 I suppose a decent rework for scholar would be Aldo has higher chance to crit while succor has base chance but criting grants galv. It wouldn’t be too op considering our major heals are tied to aether flow and they don’t even give shields, which sucks.
      I adore scholar but they need to do so much work on it, especially with sage coming out…. I am more afraid of sage than excited. I really don’t want my healer since I started being basically replaced >.>

    • @jayr5mitty351
      @jayr5mitty351 3 роки тому

      @@godsplayingfield i agree 100%
      It was honestly common sense speaking that both whm and ast had procs for their heals and adlo being(supposedly) our main heal, it should have a proc as well. Maybe had they added it sooner, ppl would know that you're supposed to go adlo over physic smh

  • @TheCalmPsycho
    @TheCalmPsycho 3 роки тому +1

    0:15 That happens to me sometimes... I always just apologize, incase it was my fault. I tend to pay too much attention staring at the health bars, and not on the fight, though I still do my best to DPS as well using my AST. Always feel bad when I see a DPS health bar just zap into the Shadow Realm in .5 seconds from standing in 3 AOEs simultaneously, lol.

  • @vedasisme
    @vedasisme 3 роки тому +2

    I still have ptsd from healing the first big pull of Doma Castle...

  • @Wanderingsage7
    @Wanderingsage7 2 роки тому

    I kinda agree with one video I saw that if DPS is going to be such an integral part of the game then healing should have a DPS rider. Sage is one solution where you heal by doing DPS, but I kinda want the mirror. Doing DPS by healing. Anyway that's my random thought. Video is awesome thank you!

  • @cparle87
    @cparle87 10 місяців тому

    10:35 Yup. Using swiftcast for movement or damage almost guarantees someone is going to die right after. It's tempting Murphy.

  • @N.G.H.
    @N.G.H. 3 роки тому +5

    I'm a healer main, Astrologian, and a bit of a perfectionist and it hurts to see tanks not using their cooldowns or taking advantage of my spells like earthly stars or collective unconscious or not using them to their fullest capacity. Like tanking half their crowd of enemies outside of the star so that when it explodes the tank gets healed but the enemies don't take the damage. Or tanking on the edge of asylum when they could be on the other side to make room for the melee DPS and healers to stand inside to heal up while they do their thing.

  • @RiderOmega
    @RiderOmega 3 роки тому +1

    One of the problems I had healing while leveling Astrologian to 60 was that I got nothing but sub level 30 dungeons out of leveling routette until I got to a high enough level for the first Heavensward leveling dungeon then suddenly it's all HW dungeons. That was almost certainly exacerbated by the high numbers of new players right now, but my god it sucked having to learn my entire level 30-55 kit all at once.

    • @LamentaFortuna
      @LamentaFortuna 3 роки тому

      I found that doing squadron runs helped with that. You could choose to do a dungeon that let you use those tool kits in a learning environment with an AI party. The experience is quite decent as well.

    • @RiderOmega
      @RiderOmega 3 роки тому

      @@LamentaFortuna I tried but I was sadly one leveled DPS squadron member short of being able to do that. I think I have them there now, so I shouldn't have the problem again but I don't think I'm gonna be dealing with a healer as complex as Astrologian for a bit here.

  • @blugill2273
    @blugill2273 3 роки тому +6

    i wish my monitor can handle higher resolution. this look smooth

    • @jayr5mitty351
      @jayr5mitty351 3 роки тому

      I wish I had a monitor instead of using a TV lol

  • @buckfiden946
    @buckfiden946 3 роки тому +1

    Pros: instant duty finder queues
    Cons: That undergeared WAR tank who keeps insisting on pulling the entire dungeon

    • @darkriversaben9163
      @darkriversaben9163 2 роки тому

      So true. Or the dps that ego it on and keep stepping into dps aoe.

  • @extinctbaryonyx
    @extinctbaryonyx 3 роки тому +1

    Honestly as a healer, especially in ARR-HEavensward dungeon, many tanks got panicky if i dont heal them full health. If the hp fall behind even 60% i sear they started malfunctioning and running around like a madman (Annoying BLM mostly).
    So dont mind me if i "overheal" just to keep the tank mental health safe (lol)

  • @blarghit9789
    @blarghit9789 3 роки тому +1

    1) Focus on healing
    2) Weave in some DPS
    3) Only weave in some DPS if you are confident about healing/dpsing at the same time. Otherwise, see point one. Whether or not you DPS and heal at the same time doesn't matter until you hit end game extreme trials/raids (savage).
    4) Start off healing as white mage. AST/SCH take more skill and are kind of trash anyway. Except AST is pretty good in pvp.
    That's how you heal :)

  • @FinGeek4now
    @FinGeek4now 2 роки тому

    I only wish that my main job (Arcanist) was a (D, H) OT class; the summoner job being a pet/dot class (send pet to attack and keep DOTs up) while the scholar class being a damage shield / HOT class.

  • @RinhL
    @RinhL 3 роки тому

    This video is great and all, but I think what we really need is an ENTIRE Healer Happy Redux series \o/

  • @mrd1703
    @mrd1703 3 роки тому

    thought i knew it all, but i still learned some stuff. nice guide

  • @LondonWater
    @LondonWater 3 роки тому

    Im a 2.0 WHM, and this video reminded me of over healing. Unfortunately most content that I play just doesn’t make me ever have to worry about mana at all. In my mind (and this is a really bad habit) my mama is unlimited. In fact, most of the time I can let my mana run completely out, and just throw out my 3 mana regenerative abilities, and poof im almost full again. I got to work on changing this terrible behavior. I know better, I remember when it was more frequently important, but I guess because im not doing hard enough content, I’ve simply forgotten.

    • @TheMansterTruck
      @TheMansterTruck 3 роки тому

      The important thing to remember is that even if your mana isn't a resource you need to conserve, your GCDs are resources. Every heal you cast that wasn't needed was a glare you could have cast to end the fight sooner

  • @EeveeReturn
    @EeveeReturn 3 роки тому +7

    I've always said that FFXIV healing follows the "ounce of prevention, pound of cure" philosophy. 👍

  • @nicgara8781
    @nicgara8781 3 роки тому

    I think the hardest thing for healers is learn what are the best stats to go for because I watched summit1g stream with his gf playing whm and then chat at one point blew up with everyone giving different answers to which are the best stats to where there was a point you couldn't tell with everyone giving different priorities of stats.

    • @DantoriusD
      @DantoriusD 3 роки тому +1

      Crit and Det are the most Important Stats for Healer. Aside of that it depends of your Skills and the Grp. If you ran out of Mana a little bit piety is not wrong, if you wanna do more DPS then Direct hit....etc. there is a reason why Healer have more than 1 Best in Slot Set but usually its build around the performance of Your Grp.
      I play a Max DPS Bis on my WHM with nearly 0 piety and it runs super well with my Static because every CD and Cast is fully planned. With that set i cant run the Same Content in PF because i ran so quickly out of Mana.

  • @OcihEvE
    @OcihEvE 3 роки тому

    By and large your observation is correct. Learn at your pace, stay with the heal, over heal for MSQ and in time you will be mashing Holy like the rest of us but don't get trapped in to thinking you 'need' to DPS. You don't. Not for MSQ. It helps save time but if everyone is that horny to get out of a dungeon every run? The game starts to suck for a class like healer that needs to evaluate when to mechanic and when to heal and when to DPS.
    The biggest struggle with healer is knowing you are the easy out for lazy mechanics. Healers are far and away the squishiest class and will fall to one shot quicker than anyone else. So if a time sink is needed, kill the healer. Every dungeon has a 'healer killer' mechanic and if you are new and don't know precisely when and how to avoid the healer killer you will cause a wipe a lot of times.
    I over heal a lot and with good reason. I just ran an alt through MSQ and 90% of the 4 man dungeons from 51-70 I got caught caught by a healer killer. Last boss, last mechanic I would be dead on the floor. Because all other party members were topped up, they cleared and we didn't wipe but I was in the same place every time. Full health, no health. I refuse to heal 24 man content because of the wap, slap, your dead mantra put in to mechanics.
    Healer is a great class but there is a reason it's the class you are waiting for in most duty finder queue's.

  • @captainteeko4579
    @captainteeko4579 3 роки тому +3

    I’m a lvl 53 white mage and I still don’t know what I’m doing lol

  • @DonaldTurner
    @DonaldTurner 3 роки тому +1

    always solid commentary. thanks brother.

  • @oklahomahank2378
    @oklahomahank2378 3 роки тому

    I am new to ff14 but I used to raid heal in wow. The main thing is to remain calm and know your spec.

  • @AscendantStoic
    @AscendantStoic 3 роки тому

    The problem of people not understanding what HoT (heal over time) AoE spells do might be avoided by using a macro to cast the spell that adds a sound effect and text warning for party to stand in the effect, some people never touch magic classes so they don't know what all the healer AoE spells are or what they do.
    And frankly without tweaking the settings and lowering special effects the big fights could become visually messy and hard to read.

  • @dalgona4819
    @dalgona4819 Рік тому

    I'm always thankful for the healers who saved my ass with Rescue whenever I ran to safety way too late that I'm close to getting nuked by the AoE attack XD

  • @AxiamWolfe
    @AxiamWolfe 3 роки тому

    I might not be the best healer out there, but in progging Savage content with my static I really did get the opportunity to utilize my full kit as a WHM.
    Medica 2 and Cure 3 are the most efficient don’t get me wrong, but as a group of casuals doing E8S and E12S, Medica 1 and Afflatus Rapture are so essential in my MP management during those massive raidwide combo heal-checks.
    Or it could be just because I sacrificed some Piety to see bigger numbers on my Blood Lily……

    • @peppermint7152
      @peppermint7152 3 роки тому

      When casting back to back heals, you should always use Thin Air. Thin Air makes terminal an absolute joke. (Not that you should even see that mechanic with echo.)
      White Mage is by far the most mana efficient healer in the game if played well. I maintain that it's absolutely possible to do any content in FF14 on WHM with zero piety--even prog or PF.
      That being said, if you're worried that a fellow party member might sandbag and tax your mana pool more than usual, it helps to keep super ethers handy.

    • @AxiamWolfe
      @AxiamWolfe 3 роки тому

      @@peppermint7152 Oh never really thought about them Super Ethers, that's good backup advice thanks!
      I agree that Thin Air is a god send. Really do be unlimited healing works for those few seconds it's up.

  • @bigquazz3955
    @bigquazz3955 3 роки тому

    I'm glad healer dps has become the new normal. I left the game after Alexander savage and just got back to a whole new mindset for healers.

  • @shenacarter7987
    @shenacarter7987 3 роки тому +2

    I am a horrible healer and I know it. But I'm also not very confident as one either. I've gotten better but death still falls around me like rain from the sky, lol

    • @kujika
      @kujika 3 роки тому +1

      As long as you don't fall first like I tend to :s

    • @shenacarter7987
      @shenacarter7987 3 роки тому

      @@kujika besides the tank I make myself priority lol

  • @Adeptsoren
    @Adeptsoren 3 роки тому +1

    I main whm semicasual semihardcore I agree with all of this lol. Good job, this gets my cosign lol!

  • @DantoriusD
    @DantoriusD 3 роки тому +1

    Sad that aside of some minor Bosses/Raids Esuna is pretty useless. Majority of Debuffs are Poison or other Dots whiche are easy healed against with a Hot. I really wish we had more deadlier Debuffs to handle which really requires Esuna.

    • @TheMansterTruck
      @TheMansterTruck 3 роки тому

      Theres a bit in TEA where you have to esuna 6 people or they die. It sucks.

  • @jintaistormwarden10
    @jintaistormwarden10 3 роки тому

    I will rescue a black mage (or any DD) that refuses to stand in my AoE's in room wide intensive fights. Their circle be damned. Lilly (the Eos) used to be commandable. I could tie her via macro to cast embrace on my physic target. The party name box fades when they are almost out of sight, not out of range. Because of this I wont know they can't be healed till I try and get a range error, and no healer is focusing on the exact position of the antisocials in the back. That slows my reaction time. With the macro, she would run over to heal them if they were our of range, often saving them while I process they are playing by themselves in the back of the room, find where they are, run over, etc. Now that I cannot command her, she shows contempt for those that used to make her run by showing she is the true Blood Lilly. I miss the days of commanded embrace. I could give her commands while I took care of other things and prioritize her targets. We had true synergy. A crisis medic and his nurse. Now she's just a healing totem that follows me around. The moral of this paragraph, hug the friggin healers, lol. (I can nearly always be found by the tank or melee stack.)

  • @OMGBennyyy
    @OMGBennyyy 3 роки тому +2

    Healing? What's that? I only know Glare and BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD LILY.

  • @T.O.Wallee
    @T.O.Wallee 3 роки тому +3

    I’ve met a healer at high level who just spam cure 1 on me as a tank from start to the end of the dungeon. I can’t say he’s doing anything wrong though.

    • @adamstapley6995
      @adamstapley6995 3 роки тому +2

      I could, it’s very inefficient I’d offer a tip or give some advice. People responding with negativity shouldn’t be normalized I’m tired of it.

    • @abyssaljoey7695
      @abyssaljoey7695 3 роки тому

      I agree with Adam, if I see a healbot I at least ask to see if they are ok with recieving advice from a "non healer", if it is a dungeon above 40 I just preface the message with "this may be unwanted advice".

  • @myrany8407
    @myrany8407 Рік тому

    Me brand new WHM in Quarn on level with on level HQ crafted gear. I tell the party it is only my 3rd time healing with real people (I did a couple in duty support to get comfy with my buttons). Tank cool! Then the tank proceeds to take off and pull like 3 packs at once and I just cant keep them alive. Tank chews me out and refuses to pull less. Me rethinks being a healer.

  • @Chris-iv8sb
    @Chris-iv8sb 3 роки тому +1

    Endgame healer feels like playing a cleric in D&D. Make your heals count. Don't use the weakest heals unless it's unavoidable. Kill enemies faster = less need for healing.

  • @androide1258
    @androide1258 3 роки тому

    There was this time i was rescued by a WHM, but I was doing the mechanics right and he wasn’t…so he rescued me and we both died!!! And i was like man why did you rescued me? And he was like sorry i thought you were doing the mechanics wrong!!! I laughed so hard that day!!! So you can even use rescue wrong, that’s why I don’t have it in my hot bar and I’m an AST main!!!

  • @steweygrrr
    @steweygrrr 3 роки тому +5

    What more healers need to do is _play Dark Knight so that they understand how Living Dead works._ I'm currently a SCH main but during Stormblood I was a DRK main and the amount of times I got healed out of Walking Dead after 2 seconds of it being active was silly. It's genuinely one of the better invulns _when people understand it_ which is what normally gets it labelled as the worst invuln. Part of that is because the skill doesn't really communicate what its doing particularly well but the other part is definitely on us as healers for not paying attention/understanding when heals are needed and when they aren't.

    • @JohnDCrafton
      @JohnDCrafton 3 роки тому +2

      as a not whm healer i'm gonna heal you out of it early because i don't have an instant full hp heal and i want to make sure you don't die from it

    • @KhronosTrigger
      @KhronosTrigger 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah no, living dead is absolutely the worst invuln, two out of 3 healers cannot heal you to full sometimes. I can’t take you seriously when you think Hallowed Ground/holmgang, aren’t the top two it’s not even better than superbolide. As an AST main who leveled all three healers, Living Dead is trash unless you’re whm.

  • @rap0151
    @rap0151 3 роки тому

    Thank you for the tutorial on healing in FF14.

  • @OwlNightwind
    @OwlNightwind 3 роки тому +1

    Kek. My first experience healing in the game was when I was leveling a scholar and oh boy. Lets say I wiped the group a few times before I started pre-shielding and using Eos like I should’ve used Eos.

    • @JohnDCrafton
      @JohnDCrafton 3 роки тому

      as a level 80 sch i still don't pre-shield. outside of savage/ultimate it's a waste of mp

    • @mirageowl
      @mirageowl Рік тому

      most of the time when I feel like everything's going down hill as a SCH, I realize I didn't resummon the pixie after I died xd

  • @TurtleFlowerboi
    @TurtleFlowerboi 3 роки тому

    I haven't played an mmo in over a decade and a lot of the jargon I see trying to research healer still goes over my head Q____Q

  • @KirtAkaKj
    @KirtAkaKj 3 роки тому +4

    Healing is as easy as your party makes it.

  • @chrisanderson7820
    @chrisanderson7820 3 роки тому

    For all the WoW players be aware that FF14 HOT regens are super easy, effective and efficient with decent durations. An occasional single spell with a regen component can keep a tank or party topped up for a huge amount of a fight with minimal mana/GCD use.

  • @arif93jong93
    @arif93jong93 3 роки тому

    Paladin and White Mage user here...I appreciate my life more because I know how it feels...

  • @Asari547
    @Asari547 3 роки тому +5

    when number two came up i just thought: well... 50% of all player disagree so hard they turn of the video instantly.
    healer dont do dmg because.... well... i dont really know why.... waiting and doing nothing is surely so much better, so much more interesting and why not? healers are so much better, they deserve to take a break from using skills. dont dare to do that as a DD (I guess i could ignore my ogcd skills to even it out a bit)
    i mean no offense to people still learning how to heal, start small, start with a dot.

    • @littlemai5286
      @littlemai5286 3 роки тому

      Dunno why healers don't do damage to be honest, cause every mmorpg I've played doing damage as healer is important.

  • @codex458
    @codex458 3 роки тому +2

    My only problem about healing is targeting… kinda having a super hard time being on controller.

    • @DonaldTurner
      @DonaldTurner 3 роки тому +1

      up and down on D pad.. is party members.. my wife ehals on ps5

    • @codex458
      @codex458 3 роки тому +1

      @@DonaldTurner yes ik. But the thing is that I’m a quick reaction type of guy, and having to “scroll” through allies just to find the one Im gonna heal makes it a hassle for me. Thank you tho.

    • @DonaldTurner
      @DonaldTurner 3 роки тому +1

      @@codex458 agreed. Personally, I suck at controller.

    • @kujika
      @kujika 3 роки тому +1

      I also got trouble on keyboard...mainly because whenever I need to switch more targets than tank->enemy it's an emergency and thus I panic xD

    • @darkriversaben9163
      @darkriversaben9163 2 роки тому

      PS4 player. For healers, I put the main bar, party bar, and enemies bar next to each other and select each one with the touch pad.

  • @darkriversaben9163
    @darkriversaben9163 2 роки тому

    My philosophy on healer. My job is to keep you alive not to heal you. Alot of heavy pulling out of sight Tanks and screaming aoe taking damage placement dps taught me that. One note the other class forget is that a healer only healer mean no LB. So low health is fine. Healer have to juggle through anything. When a tank and dps use their companion skills I know the dungeon a clear without knowledge.

  • @alexschettino1277
    @alexschettino1277 3 роки тому

    I like Astro cause their old skills dont get phased out. benefic 1 procs instant cast on benefic 2.

    • @TheMansterTruck
      @TheMansterTruck 3 роки тому +1

      Im sorry to have to tell you this, but that's not actually very good. If you have to gcd heal you should get the most healing done with as few gcds as possible. It'd be better to use aspected benefic if you need an instant heal or just skip to casting the benefic 2 if you need that upfront healing. Benefic 1 doesn't really do enough to be worth casting

  • @KumiChan2004
    @KumiChan2004 3 роки тому +4

    Here's the, I've been healing since ARR comment and just watched a video on healing. comment.

  • @musanetesakupwanya1050
    @musanetesakupwanya1050 3 роки тому

    Not me finally getting my SCH to lv 30 and then going into a dungeon to xp farm, and realising I have no idea what my new rotations are!
    Let's just say it was a bit rough lol :D

  • @gtshawn
    @gtshawn 3 роки тому

    Back when I played, I was a White Mage, I wasn't the greatest, just good enough to keep people alive, then I got with a group who thought White Mages could heal through them withstanding the different boss telegraphs, and when they didn't, and died, I was roasted by the tank and the dps, and never turned back.....then some years later, the concept of toxic players became prevalent....still didn't return!
    But now, I realize how great a game FFXIV is!!

  • @TheLolrider
    @TheLolrider 3 роки тому +3

    Is there any kind of smart-cast functionality in FFXIV, or do you just manually click on allies every time you want to heal them?

    • @JathraDH
      @JathraDH 3 роки тому

      There is no smart cast no, but you can use mouseover macros. There are also quick target hotkeys to target each party member.

    • @ahorseofcourse7283
      @ahorseofcourse7283 3 роки тому +1

      If you're using a controller, the Up and Down buttons on the D-pad scroll up and down the party list, with yourself at the top. Scroll, hit X if you're on a PS4 controller, and then cast your spell. Left and Right on the D-Pad tab through nearby targets.

    • @JathraDH
      @JathraDH 3 роки тому

      @@ahorseofcourse7283 I don't play on controller, but if I did I would just dedicate an entire fast crossbar to target party member 1-8 macros if I was healing.

    • @ahorseofcourse7283
      @ahorseofcourse7283 3 роки тому +1

      @@JathraDH Be careful with macros, they slow down response times. I think the F1-F8 keys target individual party members.

    • @JathraDH
      @JathraDH 3 роки тому

      @@ahorseofcourse7283 Uh, this is a dumb response lmao. Sorry, but targeting macros don't slow down anything. Macros remove the ability to queue a spell. Targeting macros are instant. Also, if you are on a controller, which was the context you have no F1-F8 keys.
      The fact you even used the phrase "slow down response times" demonstrates you have no understanding of why macros are bad. They do not do this. They only clip your GCD *VERY* slightly (and only if you are using them on a GCD ability mind you), which adds up over a fight if you are using them on literally every ability that has a GCD.
      Any macro that's using an OGCD skill, targeting something, or can otherwise resolve entirely when weaved before you need to queue your next GCD does not impact DPS output in any way, shape, or form.

  • @anthonytangeman945
    @anthonytangeman945 3 роки тому +2

    I'm really wondering where healing is going for endwalker. I think they went too far in ShB with taking away dps abilities. If we're spending 90% of our gcd's dps'ing, I'd prefer having more than one dot and one nuke most of the time. I also think we have too many oGCD tools, just makes healing really trivial.

    • @DantoriusD
      @DantoriusD 3 роки тому

      Maybe its for Sch ^^. WHM has exactly 1 Ogcd Heal and that isnt even used for Healing ^^ its Assize

    • @anthonytangeman945
      @anthonytangeman945 3 роки тому +1

      @@DantoriusD You're missing bene, tetra, and asylum.
      And while they're not oGCD, the lily heals are instant and free. It just feels too much to me personally, too many free heals.

  • @noblewolf8232
    @noblewolf8232 3 роки тому

    This is a neat guide. Thanks!

  • @pacifiedbeaumonte
    @pacifiedbeaumonte 3 роки тому

    Literally just saw people, including mentors, in the nn arguing for honest healers lol

  • @harombee
    @harombee 3 роки тому +2

    Knowing thst ive been a good SCH since early stormblood had ALWAYS made me feel like a fucking GOD. I used to be so bad. Till someone gave me the keys to the kingdom

    • @jayr5mitty351
      @jayr5mitty351 3 роки тому +1

      Ahhh so you know the secrets of sch eh??
      Well shhhhh... we pass on the knowledge only to the worthy 🤐

    • @harombee
      @harombee 3 роки тому

      @@jayr5mitty351 the knowledge of kangs is earned not given

    • @jayr5mitty351
      @jayr5mitty351 3 роки тому

      @@harombee indeed good sir... indeed... 🧐

  • @dojelnotmyrealname4018
    @dojelnotmyrealname4018 3 роки тому

    I might be the only one, and maybe this is a WHM specific issue, but I feel like I could use some tips on how you weave oGCD's effectively as a healer. There's no time inbetween the cast bar and the next GCD so I just feel like arse because I'm clipping my GCD to get my other abilities in.

    • @slainmaster1997
      @slainmaster1997 3 роки тому +1

      It does tend to be a WHM specific issue more often than not, as SCH has an instant cast DPS spell on demand and AST has reduced cast times on all their DPS spells to where they can always single weave.
      With WHM specifically, Aero/Dia reapplications, Afflatus spells and Regen are pretty much the only instant casts you have available to give you space to weave without clipping your GCD, besides of course Swiftcast Stone/Glare. But given the nature of these buttons, you'll find that even if you could plan everything out, sometimes you really will need to bite that bullet and clip your GCD to use these, since the cost of GCDs you use for unneeded instant cast heals to say, make space for your Assize over the course of a fight might end up stinging later on.

    • @peppermint7152
      @peppermint7152 3 роки тому

      As a WHM, you will clip a lot. Sounds like heresy but it's the truth.
      FWIW, clipping a GCD costs roughly 100 potency on a WHM. Using a Lily also costs 100 potency. Clipping Assize and weaving Assize into a Lily are functionally equivalent for DPS.
      Basically, if you can spend a Lily on useful healing, or if you've a second spell you'd like to weave with it, then Lily + Assize. Otherwise just clip Assize and save the Lily for later.

  • @neutrinocarrot4848
    @neutrinocarrot4848 Рік тому +1

    I have a whm at 90 and scholar soon to follow but I'm watching thus anyway for some reason

  • @zengamer321
    @zengamer321 3 роки тому

    "Fortunately healer are really simple when it comes to introducing their damage."
    RIP Miasma 2. Never forget. Fucking SHB SCH.

  • @Bilskirnir3124
    @Bilskirnir3124 3 роки тому

    What do you do when the party's full health? What do you do when the party's full health? Or even half way up and standing? DPS the bad guy!

  • @toychristopher
    @toychristopher 3 роки тому +11

    People complained so much about healers not dpsing that now they don't heal at all. I feel very sad when my cohealer won't heal or rez anyone.

    • @jaeusa160
      @jaeusa160 3 роки тому +6

      That's the big problem. Spells like Benediction get lazily treated as dps cooldowns rather than the emergency buttons they're supposed to be. And, of course, why keep your dps alive when you can res your dps at a massive dps loss.... so you can cast weak dps spells. -___-
      The community problem has become inverted and "healers" often fail in their primary duty due to a needless focus on their secondary duty. And don't even get me started on DHit melds.

    • @KersplosionLlawchwith
      @KersplosionLlawchwith 3 роки тому +8

      @@jaeusa160 If you're using benediction as an emergency rather than a plan, you're the one in the wrong, buddy.

    • @eorzeanECM
      @eorzeanECM 3 роки тому +4

      When I see the party needing heals and all I see is glare from my co healer. Sch main here…..smh

    • @jaeusa160
      @jaeusa160 3 роки тому +4

      @@KersplosionLlawchwith The one in the wrong is typically the person who needed ressed or almost got one-shot, but the healer is also wrong for mismanaging their tools. GNB and DRK would like it up anyway, and not to be wasted frivolously so you can get 2 more Glares off.

    • @nobodynobody5396
      @nobodynobody5396 3 роки тому +1

      @@jaeusa160 have you tried gitting gud?

  • @Cornbane
    @Cornbane 3 роки тому

    I'm mixed on the "healing" aspect of the game. I'm in Heavensward now and can play Astro, which is more fun thanks to the buffing, but I do miss being a dedicated healer. In WoW it was more you need to heal most of the time and slip damage in when you can, while here it's damage most of the time and throw a heal out when it's needed.
    I wouldn't have a problem with that if healers had more damage utilities, but it's basically 1 dot, 1 AoE and 1 single target. So it gets kind of dull after a while.
    Meanwhile we have a pile of neat healing skills to use that I haven't had the need for.
    It just feels like things are a bit backwards.
    So... I don't know. It's good, but I think my expectation were set too high from the videos I watched, and from what my friends told me.

    • @NingyoHimeDoll
      @NingyoHimeDoll 3 роки тому

      Heavensward is still fairly early in the game, raids and everything will get tougher in later expansions. You'll probably have your hands full keeping ppl alive in more recent raids.

    • @Cornbane
      @Cornbane 3 роки тому

      @@NingyoHimeDoll I've been told that. But it kind of wish they gave more of a sample early on. You'd think they would want to put the best foot forward when potential buyers are trying the game. XD
      Josh Strife Hayes put out a video called "It Gets Better After 100 Hours..." and it talks about this very thing in one part.
      It's just hard deciding if I want to put money into something I'm still skeptical about.
      It's also hard because apparently healing game is getting revamped in the next expansion and from what I saw it looks up my alley.
      So I'm really stuck between a rock and a hard place. XD

    • @Kuro-sc1mg
      @Kuro-sc1mg 3 роки тому

      ​@@Cornbane its an mmo man it would stupid to do that. you have like half your toolkit at lvl 50/60 so it is not even possible to have anything close to good at this point. and the thing with healing revamp is also wrong they just seperate pure healers and shield healers so you need one of each for 8man content. so it doesnt necessarily mean you have to heal more. you really cant compare lvl 60 content to 80 or even 70. the difference is really huge. but i agree that older content in this game is horrible and that square enix should adjust it to the class changes thats been going on for the last 3 expansions. maybe just watch a few streams where people do high lvl content and try to get an impression if youre unsure about this game

  • @Sketchblopp
    @Sketchblopp 3 роки тому

    Very informative video! Just a pity I can't share it with barely any of my friends because of all the endgame dungeon spoilers.. ^^;

  • @ddmkthfc8555
    @ddmkthfc8555 3 роки тому +1

    Does the target of target macro still work? I used to use that on all dps abilities so I didn’t have to switch off of tank

    • @Thund3rstorm
      @Thund3rstorm 3 роки тому

      Even if it does: Macro's are generally not recommended as macros cannot use the ability/skill queue. Without macros you can tell the server you'd like to cast another spell right after your current one finishes slightly before your current one is finished casting, so you're not punished for having a slightly higher ping than another player. Macros can't be queued up. So you'll always lose just a little bit of time between each cast when using abilities via macro. Also weaving off gcd abilities works really bad with macros. It's okay to use for ground targeting stuff (like WHM asylum, Salted Earth, etc.) if you don't want the hassle to position it yourself but even so the cast might fail when using a macro when it wouldn't if you'd used it without one.

  • @nemeanlioness
    @nemeanlioness 3 роки тому

    anxiety when tanking but healing is more natural than standing still. just dont ask me to rescue you.

  • @fuzzyplonks
    @fuzzyplonks 3 роки тому +2

    Since i’m on controller, my biggest worry to start playing a healing class is targeting… this has stopped me from leveling any healer class (except sch)

    • @Dharengo
      @Dharengo 3 роки тому

      So you started with the hardest one?

    • @SubduedRadical
      @SubduedRadical 3 роки тому +2

      Honestly, I feel like healing on controller is easier. You can press the up/down buttons on the + pad to quickly cycle through your party members. It always starts at the top (pressing down) or bottom (pressing up), so you know how many times you need to tap it to target the right person, and I have my party frames where tanks/healers are at the top for quick access for heals/raises. I feel like I can target people faster and more accurately on controller since I don't have to find my mouse pointer in the middle of hectic combat. XD

    • @Dharengo
      @Dharengo 3 роки тому

      Oh I didn't even notice the part about controller.
      Yeah no, targeting is flipping easy on controller. You have 2.5 whole seconds (maybe a _little_ less depending on spell speed) to press up or down one to four times.

    • @tunaXIV
      @tunaXIV 3 роки тому

      As others have said targeting your party is much simpler than people think on controller, a bit slower maybe but once you get the hang of it you'll be scrolling through your party list super fast! My only advice is to structure your party list so its easy to select the tank and your co-healer, (I have it so the tanks are second on the list and my co-healer is at the bottom so its only 1 or 2 up/down presses to select them).
      I main AST who I feel has to scroll through the party list more than the other healers because of their cards, which I found was actually good training for getting very fast at selecting people! ^^ Sorry for the wall of text though! Hope you can enjoy trying the other healers out!

    • @fuzzyplonks
      @fuzzyplonks 3 роки тому +1

      I tried once with trust group and i just got super overwhelmed and tired after it lol maybe i’ll try again. Any tips for healing in a raid? I guess u still have to go through the list but with more people. And not even sure you can target cross raid group with controller? I have to use my mouse when I tried to rez someone outside my group with my RDM

  • @sunnylam5104
    @sunnylam5104 3 роки тому

    Just play WHM is you're going to play Healer. It has everything you need as a healer and damage, but if you want more challenge, then play AST or maybe even SCH. However, if you're only playing healer to do only healing, then probably just play DPS I'm sure you'll contribute more than playing healer doing that.

  • @venabre
    @venabre 3 роки тому +1

    WHM getting a stun on their aoe feels unfair to the other healers imo. I think it would be great if all the other healers got an added effect to their aoes as well. Maybe like a slow or paralysis or something

    • @JathraDH
      @JathraDH 3 роки тому

      Sure, just give WHM a party buff then, and the ability to actually weave reliably, and some instant heals sub 50, fairs fair.

    • @venabre
      @venabre 3 роки тому +1

      @@JathraDH Wow, so much pent-up anger there buddy. You ok?

    • @JathraDH
      @JathraDH 3 роки тому

      @@venabre Perfectly fine. Just when people who have no idea what they are talking about playing the other healers greedily decide they want the ONE thing WHM has going for it.. please learn your privilege. WHM is still not meta, and honestly hasn't been since HW. It won't be until it actually gets something that actually helps the party's damage. It is utter trash pre 60. Perhaps if you had actually played the job you would realize how stupid your comment was.

    • @venabre
      @venabre 3 роки тому +1

      @@JathraDH well I wasn't talking about the meta because frankly I don't care about the meta. And honestly neither should you. You like WHM? Then play WHM. Simple as that. And I do not think Holy is the only thing WHMs have going for them. They have a lot of very powerful OGCD heals and also have access to more damage skills than any other healer, particularly in the aoe department (I love you assize) that make it more fun to play for me than the other healers. Holy feels "safer" than Art of War or Gravity because you're not just dpsing, you're also mitigating thanks to the stun. Assize does damage and heals. With the other healers there is less incentive to attack because people may fear they aren't doing their job or that things will go wrong and they won't be able to react in time and may just choose to keep healing instead of. Adding an extra effect to their aoes could incentivize people to dps more.

    • @JathraDH
      @JathraDH 3 роки тому

      @@venabre The actuality of the situation is WHM has been broken (in the bad way) since AST came out. In fact its been so bad that they had to utterly gut SCH and AST this expac combined with massively buffing WHM to even attempt to make it desirable, and SCH/AST are still used instead of it because it lacks a raid damage buff.
      Sure, it is fun to play. I have always mained it, even in previous expacs when it was in a far worse place than it is now. Wanting to give anything unique to WHM to the other healers will just serve to push it further into the trash bin, and its already half inside of it to begin with.
      If they really wanted to fix it they need to make healing actually needed in this game, since that's the only thing it's good at. But no one wants strong heals here as they aren't really needed unless the party is really bad.