xTool S1 Diode Laser Engraving and Cutting Machine Review | Full Enclosure | 3D Engraving | Conveyor
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- This is a quick review of the xTool S1 Laser engraver. It's a fully enclosed machine with a host of features including 3D engraving and a optional conveyor feature.
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Hey Ryan, nice video. On the xTool product page for S1, a video shows performance of 18mm and white acrylic being cut smoothly. Can you please verify this on your S1 for me? White acrylic seems to be impossible but this video shows it being done. Sorry, not able to post the links to the video directly.
Just earned yourself a new subscriber. Excellent video.
Thanks and welcome!
❤ Nice video. Cool machine! Mahalo for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Great Review ...Thankyou Mate
Thanks for watching!
Hi Ryan, great review and cool machine but I'm ultimately glad I got the P2 some months ago, serves my needs better.
Off topic but is there any chance you'd be able to set up the absolute coordinate grid also for the P2? Like you said, the camera always slightly skews the picture so that'd be a great help for my workshop and it should also work on the P2 spoil board as well?
Thanks! I'll have to look into if that is even possible. The big difference is that the tray on the S1 is screwed down to the frame so it can't move. The P2 tray is not so I'll have to look into how much play there is in it or if the laser head could ever reach it.
A great review as always Ryan. I am liking the machine but am definitely looking forward to a few tweaks to the software to help improve the twin point positioning I think it could be a very power system if fully unlocked.
Thanks Chad! Do I need it? Yes I do ;) I have also reached out about the 2 point system where I almost would like to see a 4 point to account for rotation in the part. For now I will stick to my grid as I prefer to use those whenever I can.
@@BusterBeagle3D haha thanks for watching.
Yes they could easily enable unlimited points. I love the closed loop steppers where you can manually move the laser head and it still knows it location.
Can you explain how to get best detailed engravings with the Xtool S1?
Good video, first time on your chanel and a new subscriber as well.
When using your grid and absolute co-ordinates do you type the co-ordinates into the software? and does the honeycomb bed obscure it?
Hello and Welcome!
Yes. With the S1 you have to use absolute coordinates as opposed to the D1 where you can now choose between absolute coordinates and relative coordinates. You can type the location directly into creative space however at this time you can only use the position of the top left corner of your design to align it.
For cutting with a honeycomb you are correct that it will obscure the grid so that is typically when I would use the 2 point coordinate system.
Thank you for replying as fast as you have. I think I will be ordering one at the begining of next week along the S1@@BusterBeagle3D
Please do a complete wrap on a 40 oz tumbler
I always appreciate your reviews. This looks a great machine. I am on the list to get a Roly Lasermatic MK2 in a few weeks, but now I'm thinking this may be a better machine. I think I would go with the 20 watt. It also has a wider bed. Have you tried it with Lightburn? Does it intergrate easily? And can you all the features of this machine with Lightburn? Thanks again for your videos.
Hello and thanks! I haven't used it yet with Lightburn but I have loaded the .lbdev file for the machine and know it can be connected. However some of the special things like the 3D engraving and conveyor do not work in Lightburn. Also the wifi will not work either.
As for the Roly Lasermatic MK2 I have not tried that one yet but should have it some time next month. I was super happy with the first one so I'm expecting good things.
Love the video as usual. Question, how do you handle that with the riser base now the crumb tray wiggles around so the absolute cord positions are not correct. Do you have a way to get the crumb tray back to its original position and be accurate?
The best way for accuracy is not to use the riser at all. I ended up removing it since I really didn't have much need for the extra height personally. If you want to keep in and the grid you might be better off making sure that it's pushed all of the way to one side to make sure it's square an use it more as a way of squaring wood to the laser rather then absolute coordinates.
@@BusterBeagle3D I don’t have much choice due to using the RA2 pro. I did a tiny bit of shimming and its now fine. Now, time to get a decent materials list together.
Great review! How does the two point positioning work with let’s say an “L” shaped material or odd / oval shaped?
This is exactly what I want to know too🤔
Thank you! It might be very hard to determine that. It's one of the reasons I opted for the grid instead so that I can exactly know where everything will burn. It the same issue I was mentioning with the circle coaster.
@@BusterBeagle3D thanks. It seems like having a nice camera setup would of been nice and easier to use.
@@1-Nice-Guy To be honest since many of those camera systems rely on math to skew the image to conform to workable area they are close but not always exact. On all of my lasers, even ones with the camera systems I use absolute coordinates with a grid whenever I can.
greetings friend, how deep does s1 20w engrave on hard steel and how much does s1 with IR 2w laser? is the engraving easy to remove or is it deeper in the material?

It can engrave it the surface and not just mark in it. While it won't be super deep it's also not something you could easily wipe off of the surface based on the settings you pick. The IR laser will mark the surface but probably not that as deep. It won't easily wipe away put it also won't be as deep as the 20W with high settings. If you really want to go deeper in the surface you may want to look at a fiber laser.
Would this be a good first laser cutter/engraver or would the xtool d1 20 watt laser be a better first laser? Thanks for a great video
I think this would be a better laser for a beginner then the D1. The D1 is a great machine as well but still needs to be put together and doesn't have all of the bells and whistles as this one. The enclosure on this alone is reason enough for me to recommend this over the D1.
With the conveyor feeder can you only engrave or can you cut also?
Again I don't have the conveyor but you should be able to cut just fine with it. You can cut on the P2 version.
Does the P2 has the same 2 point alignment and absolute coordinates capabilities? Thanks 🙏
No. The P2 has a camera system that allows you to see you workpiece in Creative Space.
Would be nice to have both options for more accuracy thanks for the response 👍🏻
Can you pass through a longer piece of wood to engrave a portion of it? I haven't seen this mentioned on any of the reviews.
If you are not in Europe then the riser can be uses as a way to open the doors and slide a longer workpiece even if you don't have the conveyor. It will of course open the machine an possibly let more smoke and fumes out but it would definitely let you do what you are mentioning.
Hi Ryan, How do you go about the twin point positioning on circular items? Thanks
That's one of the drawbacks of that system. That is why I use my grid system when working with circular items.
The new update that JUST came out includes the ability to point position any several different shapes including the circle.
@@teresa6775I have not tried the newest version yet but had heard that was coming.
Found you videos by google. The S1. How would it be for a complete novice like my self. Im looking for laser wood / acrylic cutter. I wouldnt be doing big jobs. So would the S1 be suitable. The video you did has been very informative
The S1 is a good machine for people of all skill levels. It would work fine for cutting wood and acrylics but keep in mind that no laser diode machine like this one can clear acrylics. To do that you would need a CO2 laser cutting machine. There also might be certain colors of acrylic that the machine can’t cut as well based on the laser color. It should work great for darker opaque acrylics.
going to get the Xtool S1 but cant decied between 40W or the 20W . What are your thoughts
The larger the wattage the faster the cutting. However the trade off is the larger the wattage to larger the laser spot size which means the lower the resolution it can produce. This might be negligible and maybe you won’t even notice the difference by eye but it’s definitely there. If you want to do lots of cutting go with the 40w. If you want primarily to engrave go with the 20w or maybe even consider the 10w.
Hello
I got the S1, and tried for the first time the RA2. I engraved a tumbler and it came out beautifully. I wanted to make a second one, but the RA2 made a horrible sound, almost like a alarm. No error message on the PC screen. I made a video. Is any problem like this knowing with the RA2? Any help is appreciated
Hello. I have not run into that personally so I would suggest checking out the xTool Facebook group to see if someone else has run into that issue. It's a great place for users to share knowledge and troubleshoot.
Did you have any issues with the engravings coming washed out on wood? I’ve tried numerous settings from changing power, speed, grayscale, Jarvis, Atkinson, and lines per cm and everything keeps turning out blurred. No definition between shades.
It could be the image you are starting from. Make sure you have some contrast in the image to have variation in the shades of the image.
@@BusterBeagle3D thank you I will double check on it. The same image turns out great on my Snapmaker original.
love this ..i will for sure burn the absolute coordinates from you ..but silly question dont i need to use the honeycomb? which will block the coordinates..so how does that work?
I mainly use this for engraving. If you are cutting you are better off using the multi point positioning system with a honeycomb. I just released a new video that goes more in depth on that.
Thanks ..so use honeycomb for engraving only on the S1?..on my d1 pro 5w I have been always using the honeycomb..& what is the new video please
@@ssrealestateserviceinc.5064 I only use the honeycomb when cutting, not engraving. ua-cam.com/video/nixxff7-01o/v-deo.html
I assume the 40W blue laser will NOT cut clear acrylic. Will the infrared laser cut clear acrylic? If yes, I'm on board. Thanks.
No it will not. No diode laser can cut clear acrylic. Thats really the biggest difference for me between a CO2 and a diode machine like this one.
@@BusterBeagle3D Thank you, I was hoping it was ?deep enough" IR. Great channel you have and great reviews.
Great review. Can you link the tea light please?
Thanks! It's in the xTool Projects link in xTool Creative Space in the top right corner. Just click on that and search for "Halloween".
@@BusterBeagle3D right on. Haven’t downloaded the tool yet
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@@BusterBeagle3D terrific. This will be one of my first tests thanks
@@BusterBeagle3D this came out great as a first cut project thanks. Super easy
Still can't decide if I want this or the Glowforge Pro...
My husband and I don't have any of the Glowforge lasers or any laser for that matter. However, upon checking the reviews for Glowforge, most are not good at all. So, every time we think about getting a Glowforge, we decide it's not a good laser and end up looking at other brands instead. We are also still looking for lasers.
I don't have a glowforge, but I joined a glowforge group on FB a while ago to hear what people do with it and their experiences. A LOT of feedback has not been great. Lots of issues, lack of customer support, and better models (like this one) for less.
can you make one big enough for me to carve into solid stone like the ancients did on ancient aliens
He engraves on metal?
It can engrave metal via the 2W infrared laser head you can purchase. Won't be some powerful fiber laser like Ryan showcased in the past but decent enough to actually engrave in metals if it's similar to the F1's output.
Yup. What @Grey646 said.
might get a xtool when they bring down their prices, the prices are completely stupid high, can get a wecreat for half their price and it comes with everything, even a program, so until xtool brings down their stupid prices not getting one.
I can confirm that the European version is not compatible with the conveyer system. sadly I didn't know this until I ordered one. it's now also listed clearly on the website. this is a great disappointment. something I'm used too. Europe is a big disappointment
Yeah. Sorry to hear that. It's why I mentioned it to try to give people a heads up.
2500$ for a diode laser 😂😂NO THANK YOU
i built a diy co2 laser with 60 w for around 1600€ wich is exactly what i need , and no it doesnt have a surface probe feature, but i never one needed it