Man, just wanted to state that by far and away, you are the best laser reviewer/channel on here. All the others bombard you with music, flashy graphics and yelling. It's so nice to have a very straight forward presenter who is knowledgeable and doesn't hold back on what he thinks. Keep it up!!
Ordered mine during the event. I'm super excited, this is my first laser. I was going to order the D1 Pro last month and saw the announcement for the S1 so I decided to wait to see what it had to offer. It was so hard waiting even longer but I'm so glad I did! This will easily meet my current needs until I can save up for a CO2 unit. Thanks for the information you provided leading up to release, it didn't make the wait less painful but they did consistently leave me reassured that the delay would be worth it.👍
Justin love your videos you’re killing it. Great to have a fellow business owner sharing their knowledge here with others here on UA-cam. Looking forward to all your future content.
Thanks dude! Been subbed to you for a while and was just about to watch your S1 review. I love the 2nd Etsy shop idea - I teased doing that as an experiment as well Im glad yours is working out 🤜🤜
I ordered the S1 during the live event tonight. This will be my first laser, but have wanted one for awhile. Didn't get one previously because of the safety issues of the diode machines not having an enclosure and having to wear safety glasses. The S1 addresses both of those issues. I went with the 20 watt module as I figured I would be doing mainly engraving so wanted the better resolution the 20 watt would offer over the 40 watt. I am looking forward to more of your videos.
Great overview! Now that these things have enclosures they are way easier to recommend to people just getting into lasers if they don't want to step into the CO2 world just yet.
Can you elaborate on metal… Seems like literature says Co2 laser for metal. However people say they use diode on metal. Looking for my first laser and would like to engrave on custom knives.
Came across you years ago. bought some wallet designs over the years. So I was delighted when I discovered you have a channel for laser cutting. Bought my first last year.
Thank you so much for this video! It was much better than Xtool’s video. I’ve never owned a laser cutter, so this review helped a lot. I will definitely order through your link. Can it cut any acrylic at all?
Thanks Janine! You can cut the darker opaque colors like black. The more translucent the color, the more difficult this style laser beam is going to have cutting. Its not going to cut clear acrylic the beam will pass right through it. CO2's like the P2 are really the sweet spot for all types of acrylic.
Trying to decide on the s1 or the p2. Besides acrylic, does the co2 do anything more than the s2 from your perspective? Maybe speed or ? Enjoyed your video. Thanks
Outside of cutting acrylic (mainly clear, blue, white) its also not going to do well with glass. I also think the cut edges coming from a co2 laser are much nicer and more predictable than a diode source. Mainly you are looking at usable power and speed plus not having to worry about certain materials not reacting as you hoped they would. CO2 is very straightforward.
What's up Justin. First, thank you for your videos and honest reviews. I'm toying with the idea of getting my first laser, primarily for hobby uses. I have been heavily considering the S1. The concern I have involves the technical/customer support from xTool. Have you heard of any negative experiences in this regard? I imagine you likely do not have issues with this based on your experience and relationship, but I follow Murphy's law when getting into something like this. Also, if you really want a challenge, try cheering for the damn Pirates. Thank you again for the content.
I have definitley heard people talk about some issues with Customer Support but thats usually because its only people who have issues that come online to talk about it. Im sure the time zone thing doesnt help since they are based in China. I havent heard any complete horror stories though. The best thing to do is join the xTool Facebook Groups. They have ones specific to the S1 as well. Usually the problems people run into have happened before and someone has an answer. Good luck!
Great review. Thank you. I'm torn between this and the Roly Lasermatic MK2 20 watt. If I got this one I would probably go with the 20w. How well does it intergrate with Lightburn? Do you get all the features in Lightburn? Or would you suggest I get to know and use Xtool software? Thanks again.
Per the live stream last night just like the P2 there are key features that won’t work with lightburn, eg rotary tool, conveyor and engraving on curves I think. I don’t know how you’d handle a project that has elements in lightburn and xTool creative space. I don’t get it. Good luck.
Thanks! You dont get all the features with Lightburn as of now. They noted that "features such as real-time laser module positioning, material area measurement, and curved surface mode are not supported by LightBurn". So all the stuff you really need basic operation is compatible with Lightburn. Getting to know XCS isnt a bad idea. If you know Lightburn it will come pretty easy to you.
Would you recommend this as a Google first laser? I have been looking at the d1 pro 20 watt but feel this is better deal. Thanks for a great and informative video.
Yes I think its a great first laser. Can do everything the D1 Pro can do but you get a lot nicer features that are standard with higher end lasers. I think the 20w S1 while its on promotional sale for the season is a great buy.
Great video, one of the best I have seen on you tube doing a review on a product. You answered all of my questions using a cnc machine now will definitely purchase this when I am ready. Thank You
Hi there. First off thank you for your videos, I’ve been watching them for a while now whilst figuring out what laser to purchase. My question is this; I was literally about to order the OMTech Polar 55W CO2 laser that is due for release tomorrow, however, I have now seen the XTool S1 Diode. I am looking to both engrave and cut but I see pros and cons to both machines. The OMTech comes with rotary axles already installed and will cope with acrylics, however, has a smaller work area (I want to make a few personalised keepsake boxes e.g for my children’s ‘first’ things and I’m unsure if the Polar will be able to do this?). There isn’t a huge price difference between the two, especially having to buy a lot of the XTool accessories separately. Which one would you recommend?
It seems like both should be able to handle what you are looking to do. Unless the boxes are really large, they are pretty comparable size-wise main difference obviously being the co2 vs diode source. If you ever envision yourself wanting to use clear acrylic in your projects then you will want to go with the Polar. This is a tough one because of how close these 2 are in features and price. I honestly dont think you will go wrong with either choice. I havent used a Polar yet so I cant give a review on how it feels.
As for the lightburn software integration fyi xTool told me they have NO plans to integrate missing functions on their P2 model (similar situation they’ve noted for S1) … meaning that their “promise” that they were working with lightburn to develop missing software features in their P2 launch video is null and void. Since P2 recently launched as well, that was bad news imo. And I haven’t bought the P2 because if it. How hard do you think it is to switch back and forth between lightburn and xTool creative space to run the same project? Is that even feasible to do? Thanks again. You ROCK.
I wish XCS would allow direct .ai file importing because thats what I use the most. SVG files are weird sometimes and dont always play nice across programs. For straight up vector stuff its not that hard to use both at all. I doubt XCS will become as "feature rich" as Lightburn is but they are making good updates as time goes on. Seems like they listen to what people want which is cool.
I think that the more people complain, the more likely LightBurn is likely to adopt the new XTOOL extensions. If the S1 sells as fast as it is predicted, I don’t think the LightBurn folks will have a choice v
FWIW I read on Reddit that someone contacted Lightburn about missing features for the S1 and they said when they can get ahold of an S1 they will work to acomodate it natively.
This has been a super helpful video! I have the D1 20w pro and while I think this would be a good addition, I’ll probably stick to my plan of getting the P2. 🤔
Fantastic video, you do a great job of explaining things. This S1 looks amazing - just ordered one with your link! I got the 40W and added the honeycomb, air assist and the riser base (note: adding the base you lose the class 1 safety certification). I like the idea that I can add an IR module down the road. I'm not familiar with their creative space software so I'll have to learn it like I did LightBurn. Maybe you could do a video on XCS? Thanks Justin - look forward to more of your vids!
Appreciate it!! XCS has a bit more training wheels than Lightburn but sometimes thats helpful. What I appreciate is they keep pushing upgrades constantly with the features that users want. I wouldnt mind doing a XCS video there are a lot out there but if there is something specific I could talk a look.
Yea that exhaust fan looks a little anemic. I would take the fan out and use a beefy one like I use on my CO2 laser (I never see smoke, it is drawn down between the cut lines of my wood, and while I clean my lens on occasion I have never seen any smoke build up on it or the mirrors.
Your videos are a great source of info. In your opinion, how does the xTool S1 (20W or 40W) compare with a 50W CO2 - in particular, OMTech's Polar? I just can't decide between the two and would really appreciate your guidance.
I had been eyeing up this laser for a while and your review convinced me to go for it. I just received the S1@40W today. After unboxing it and assembling the unit with its laser module, I connected the S1 via USB to my MacBook Pro 16" M1Max and fired up xTool Creative Space. Much to my dismay, I can not configure WiFi. No UA-cam reviews discussed the WiFi, so I assumed it would function, after all, what DOESN'T have built-in WiFi these days??? I'm very disappointed that I need to tether my MacBook to this S1 to use it. :(
I have set up Wifi on mine. You'll need to use your phone and the xTool app to do it. It's a little clunky, on Android at least, but once set up you can run jobs from the xTool Creative software over wifi. Lightburn doesn't support wifi though, unless you use Lightburn Bridge which looks like way too much work.
Hi Justin,loving your videos. Tell me will it cause any harm if I setup one of my small surveillance cameras inside the case as the laser is engraving?❤
Interesting problem. From what Ive noticed using it, I think you would need to break the design into 2 segments so it can be applied as 2 rectangle shape designs.
Great video instruction! Still trying to decide on a basic model for engraving. I’m a newbie! Couple questions how do you set up for multiple items? Or would you do 1 at a time? Example. Small wooden spoon stirrers.
If you have to use the curve surface detection Im not 100% sure if you can set that up for multiple items to run at once. Thats a great thing to look in to. If its a flat engrave, you will want to create a "jig" that the spoons sit in and you can run many at a time.
IR laser is that for infrared like the F1 what would be the difference, I have a Gorge I see that you have a tech behind you if you had to do a comparison what would it be and why
The IR module that you would put into the S1 is the same power as the F1. The massive difference being the S1 is a gantry system and the F1 is a galvo. So if all you want to do is smaller (max 4.5" x 4.5") engravings on metal the F1 is the better option because it will be MUCH faster. Not even comparable when it comes to speed. I touch on this a bit in my xTool IR module review video I did a little while back.
I'm new to lasers. Does it have a passthrough? Also does xtool have a way to capture the smoke and fumes with a filter instead of routing out a window? That's not an option for me. Thanks!
The base model S1 does not have passthrough. The riser base add-on does create the space needed however I am not sure if its intended as a passthrough slot by itself, or, specifically for the automatic conveyor feed. I will have to ask I am unsure on that myself. xTool does offer a fume extractor setup that will be compatible with this. I also use fume extractors for my other lasers. The problem is the cheaper ones never work as well. Take a look at Fume-x or Filtrabox Micro if you need a serious filter system.
Thanks! Yes its the AC Infinity S4 4" inline fan with their flexible hose. I use it for all of my smaller diodes and my fiber laser. I like the S4 because you can adjust the power unlike some of the other ones. I run it like half power in addition to the S1 fan which runs automatically.
Would you be able to engrave a skateboard with the rise base and the conveyer feed? Considering the dimensions of a skateboard deck: Height: 47mm length: 880mm Depth: 200mm Specififally wondering if the height would be enough
Hi, I am planning to get S1 and when it comes to leather cutting, is there cutting layer option in the software, in order to do/cut stitching holes before cutting the shape itself?
Trying to decide between the 20w version of this and the Glowforge aura for strictly leather cutting, any recommendations or insight based of your experience?
With the IR module installed it can mark ALL metals. If you use the standard 20 or 40w module, it can mark metals best with a marking spray like Cermark. No chance on a 4mm depth engraving. You are going to have to get a fiber laser for that.
does the 20W version cut through 6mm+ wood nicely like the website suggests?? i'm just about to order it but i barely see any cutting tests of the S1 20W out there and getting me nervous to buy... all cuts are so thin at only 3mm... nothing thicker.
You must have dipped on that launch to film this video! Thanks for your fassssst work! Still looking for C02 under $10K not sure about P2 after watching lackluster launch of S1 last night. Too chaotic and too many Q’s imo. Any brand reco on C02 with lightburn? Might get thunder just to avoid problems and increase speed. But also looking at Aeon. Epilog too pricey. HELP. I’m worried about P2 after watching S1 last night. Mostly cutting textiles and leather but want to get into engraving some product extensions since my leatherwork takes a lot of time. Thoughts? Any ideas would be appreciated. Thank you very much. 💰🔥
I stayed in for a while but was getting late my daughter didnt let me sleep the night before haha. The Thunder and Aeon are great options for sure, $10k is a solid budget. The good thing about just dealing with leather is you dont need any crazy bed size or wattage rating. I have a 65w and its PLENTY for leather. The big question is do you want a "desktop" size unit or do you have space for a full-size?
@@justinlaser thanks for the 65w reco bcuz when shopping you think you need the 100w and you get FOMO. desktop would be great but I think they’re overpriced with the air add ons … I have 100 year old house with shaky floors so I don’t think I can swing a super heavy floor model. Garage freezes. when I look at thunder and some of the entry level higher end desktop models (“maker models”) … they position them as a hobby machine but since those are really tight companies maybe I should take another look. I don’t want the bottom, entry-level model, but I guess I need to be realistic that I don’t really need a 60 inch bed either (even though my textiles are 60”L). I have to remind myself I’m not a factory. Are you still digging your boss? Any desktops you’re impressed by? Would you go with the reputable high end brand again like you did with your boss? I don’t have time to tinker and trouble shoot iffy machines that are a great deal (omtech set up videos are sketch). Thank you kindly for your advice!
Nice! I got it like a month ago and still wanting to know if I can cut and engrave clear acrylic but can't find any info about it. Does anyone know if it's possible?
thanks for the video. I have the s1 40w. I cant seem to figure out how to get to the speed settings. It only gives an option for the power. Any insight would be greatly appreciated
There is no doubt it's a nice "looking" laser, but the absence of a camera is a deal breaker. The 2-point system is only functional when using a square piece of wood, it won't map out a triangle, precut "hobby shop" wood shapes like a circle, arrow, plus sign...you get the point. With odd shapes, you're forced to frame it with the cross hairs. They made a big deal about the 2-point being more accurate than a camera, then why did they put 2 cameras in the P2? They should of put a camera in the S1...opportunity missed. They also made the work area too small, if you have a 13" x 13" piece of wood it won't work, and if you spend the money on the riser and conveyor, it still won't work because the 13" x 13" is too small and won't work with the conveyor. They should of made the D1-V2 and put a nice enclosure around it, included the P2's camera and called it good.
There's an option to turn off the beep in machine settings according to the live stream. Click the gear next to the machine in the upper right hand corner and go to working parameters@@justinlaser
Two things that are not mentioned in your review. First, the S1 has a top speed of 600mm/sec, so it’s potentially a pretty fast machine. And second, (although you weren’t aware of at the time of your review) as of the XTOOL livestream last night, the S1 is in stock for immediate delivery in (at least) the US.
Do not use the S1 indoors! Save yourself so many health issues. Get it next to a window and use extra air purifiers and a string inline fan with ducts to the outside.
Man, just wanted to state that by far and away, you are the best laser reviewer/channel on here. All the others bombard you with music, flashy graphics and yelling. It's so nice to have a very straight forward presenter who is knowledgeable and doesn't hold back on what he thinks. Keep it up!!
Appreciate it my man! I try to be fair but theres also things I wont stand for lol.
Ordered mine during the event.
I'm super excited, this is my first laser. I was going to order the D1 Pro last month and saw the announcement for the S1 so I decided to wait to see what it had to offer.
It was so hard waiting even longer but I'm so glad I did!
This will easily meet my current needs until I can save up for a CO2 unit.
Thanks for the information you provided leading up to release, it didn't make the wait less painful but they did consistently leave me reassured that the delay would be worth it.👍
Thanks and congrats on the purchase Im sure you will like it. Does everything the D1 Pro can do but with more "luxury" haha.
Justin love your videos you’re killing it. Great to have a fellow business owner sharing their knowledge here with others here on UA-cam. Looking forward to all your future content.
Thanks dude! Been subbed to you for a while and was just about to watch your S1 review. I love the 2nd Etsy shop idea - I teased doing that as an experiment as well Im glad yours is working out 🤜🤜
I ordered the S1 during the live event tonight. This will be my first laser, but have wanted one for awhile. Didn't get one previously because of the safety issues of the diode machines not having an enclosure and having to wear safety glasses. The S1 addresses both of those issues. I went with the 20 watt module as I figured I would be doing mainly engraving so wanted the better resolution the 20 watt would offer over the 40 watt. I am looking forward to more of your videos.
20w version is a great choice. Its so nice not having to walk around with the glasses on I can tell you that. Enjoy the new hobby its addictive!
Great overview! Now that these things have enclosures they are way easier to recommend to people just getting into lasers if they don't want to step into the CO2 world just yet.
Thanks! Yeah thats for sure. Ready for your review Im sure it will be soon!
You two are one of the 1st ones I go to on UA-cam on these things. So I'm also waiting on your review as well.
I came here right after xtool live . Thank you for dropping this video asap😊
He engraves on metal?
Thanks for checking out Ive been editing it for a week straight lol
I can and do!
Can you elaborate on metal… Seems like literature says Co2 laser for metal. However people say they use diode on metal. Looking for my first laser and would like to engrave on custom knives.
Came across you years ago. bought some wallet designs over the years. So I was delighted when I discovered you have a channel for laser cutting. Bought my first last year.
Thanks Karl! Leather and lasers go together so well the transition was inevitable haha.
Eager to see the conveyor rail in operation! I love making long runs! These new magnetic honeycomb clips seem sweet.
Ive never used it but watched some videos on the P2. Really helps offset the small laser size for sure.
First love this channel! thanks for the quality video as always
Much appreciated!
Thank you so much for this video! It was much better than Xtool’s video. I’ve never owned a laser cutter, so this review helped a lot. I will definitely order through your link. Can it cut any acrylic at all?
I had issue with transparent, blue and black acrylic with other laser. I didn't investigate further..
Thanks Janine! You can cut the darker opaque colors like black. The more translucent the color, the more difficult this style laser beam is going to have cutting. Its not going to cut clear acrylic the beam will pass right through it. CO2's like the P2 are really the sweet spot for all types of acrylic.
Trying to decide on the s1 or the p2. Besides acrylic, does the co2 do anything more than the s2 from your perspective? Maybe speed or ? Enjoyed your video. Thanks
Outside of cutting acrylic (mainly clear, blue, white) its also not going to do well with glass. I also think the cut edges coming from a co2 laser are much nicer and more predictable than a diode source. Mainly you are looking at usable power and speed plus not having to worry about certain materials not reacting as you hoped they would. CO2 is very straightforward.
The p2 is twice as fast at almost everything cutting-wise.
What's up Justin. First, thank you for your videos and honest reviews. I'm toying with the idea of getting my first laser, primarily for hobby uses. I have been heavily considering the S1. The concern I have involves the technical/customer support from xTool. Have you heard of any negative experiences in this regard? I imagine you likely do not have issues with this based on your experience and relationship, but I follow Murphy's law when getting into something like this. Also, if you really want a challenge, try cheering for the damn Pirates. Thank you again for the content.
I have definitley heard people talk about some issues with Customer Support but thats usually because its only people who have issues that come online to talk about it. Im sure the time zone thing doesnt help since they are based in China. I havent heard any complete horror stories though. The best thing to do is join the xTool Facebook Groups. They have ones specific to the S1 as well. Usually the problems people run into have happened before and someone has an answer. Good luck!
I think you can increase the time the exhaust fan runs as a setting in Creative Space now. I agree, 10 secs isn’t long enough to remove all the smoke.
Haha I just noticed that after upgrading firmware. I wonder if they watched....
Great review. Thank you. I'm torn between this and the Roly Lasermatic MK2 20 watt. If I got this one I would probably go with the 20w. How well does it intergrate with Lightburn? Do you get all the features in Lightburn? Or would you suggest I get to know and use Xtool software? Thanks again.
Per the live stream last night just like the P2 there are key features that won’t work with lightburn, eg rotary tool, conveyor and engraving on curves I think. I don’t know how you’d handle a project that has elements in lightburn and xTool creative space. I don’t get it. Good luck.
Thanks! You dont get all the features with Lightburn as of now. They noted that "features such as real-time laser module positioning, material area measurement, and curved surface mode are not supported by LightBurn". So all the stuff you really need basic operation is compatible with Lightburn. Getting to know XCS isnt a bad idea. If you know Lightburn it will come pretty easy to you.
@@justinlaser Thank you. How thick of a piece of wood can it handle without the extra riser base?
Would you recommend this as a Google first laser? I have been looking at the d1 pro 20 watt but feel this is better deal. Thanks for a great and informative video.
Yes I think its a great first laser. Can do everything the D1 Pro can do but you get a lot nicer features that are standard with higher end lasers. I think the 20w S1 while its on promotional sale for the season is a great buy.
Great video, one of the best I have seen on you tube doing a review on a product. You answered all of my questions using a cnc machine now will definitely purchase this when I am ready. Thank You
Thanks Doug appreciate the kind words.
Hi there. First off thank you for your videos, I’ve been watching them for a while now whilst figuring out what laser to purchase. My question is this; I was literally about to order the OMTech Polar 55W CO2 laser that is due for release tomorrow, however, I have now seen the XTool S1 Diode. I am looking to both engrave and cut but I see pros and cons to both machines. The OMTech comes with rotary axles already installed and will cope with acrylics, however, has a smaller work area (I want to make a few personalised keepsake boxes e.g for my children’s ‘first’ things and I’m unsure if the Polar will be able to do this?). There isn’t a huge price difference between the two, especially having to buy a lot of the XTool accessories separately. Which one would you recommend?
It seems like both should be able to handle what you are looking to do. Unless the boxes are really large, they are pretty comparable size-wise main difference obviously being the co2 vs diode source. If you ever envision yourself wanting to use clear acrylic in your projects then you will want to go with the Polar. This is a tough one because of how close these 2 are in features and price. I honestly dont think you will go wrong with either choice. I havent used a Polar yet so I cant give a review on how it feels.
As for the lightburn software integration fyi xTool told me they have NO plans to integrate missing functions on their P2 model (similar situation they’ve noted for S1) … meaning that their “promise” that they were working with lightburn to develop missing software features in their P2 launch video is null and void. Since P2 recently launched as well, that was bad news imo. And I haven’t bought the P2 because if it. How hard do you think it is to switch back and forth between lightburn and xTool creative space to run the same project? Is that even feasible to do? Thanks again. You ROCK.
I wish XCS would allow direct .ai file importing because thats what I use the most. SVG files are weird sometimes and dont always play nice across programs. For straight up vector stuff its not that hard to use both at all. I doubt XCS will become as "feature rich" as Lightburn is but they are making good updates as time goes on. Seems like they listen to what people want which is cool.
@@justinlaser thank you!
I think that the more people complain, the more likely LightBurn is likely to adopt the new XTOOL extensions. If the S1 sells as fast as it is predicted, I don’t think the LightBurn folks will have a choice v
@@justinlaser Export as DXF is the best results I've had for layer retention etc.
FWIW I read on Reddit that someone contacted Lightburn about missing features for the S1 and they said when they can get ahold of an S1 they will work to acomodate it natively.
Great review! I really like the clean and solid design. Very nice machine and features.
Thanks for watching! Yeah it really stands out as far as looks. Im glad they are evolving.
This has been a super helpful video! I have the D1 20w pro and while I think this would be a good addition, I’ll probably stick to my plan of getting the P2. 🤔
As long as the D1 Pro will hold you over its a good plan of action!
I really appreciate what you do. These reviews are so helpful for an absolute beginner like me..
Videos are clean, sound is on point, well done.
Thank you! Audio editing the bane of my existence.
Fantastic video, you do a great job of explaining things. This S1 looks amazing - just ordered one with your link! I got the 40W and added the honeycomb, air assist and the riser base (note: adding the base you lose the class 1 safety certification). I like the idea that I can add an IR module down the road. I'm not familiar with their creative space software so I'll have to learn it like I did LightBurn. Maybe you could do a video on XCS? Thanks Justin - look forward to more of your vids!
Appreciate it!! XCS has a bit more training wheels than Lightburn but sometimes thats helpful. What I appreciate is they keep pushing upgrades constantly with the features that users want. I wouldnt mind doing a XCS video there are a lot out there but if there is something specific I could talk a look.
Great video! I'm brand new to laser engraving, and trying to figure out what i need.
Will this cut/engrave clear acrylic? Or glass?
It might *badly* engrave clear acrylic but wont cut it. You need a co2 laser like the P2.
Great review! Thanks. Looking forward to see more projects from it.
Thank you!
Yea that exhaust fan looks a little anemic. I would take the fan out and use a beefy one like I use on my CO2 laser (I never see smoke, it is drawn down between the cut lines of my wood, and while I clean my lens on occasion I have never seen any smoke build up on it or the mirrors.
I wish they would allow the option to ship without.a fan at all just an attachment port like the standard CO2 lasers. Gotta keep that air moving!
Your videos are a great source of info. In your opinion, how does the xTool S1 (20W or 40W) compare with a 50W CO2 - in particular, OMTech's Polar? I just can't decide between the two and would really appreciate your guidance.
Love your videos and your straight forward descriptions and feature explanations.
Appreciate it!
I sent the M1 back for the Creality Falcon2 because it offered the 20 & 40 watt laser in one unit but that S1 looks very nice.
Being able to swap is great. Especially if they keep innovating with different modules.
thank you for this. ive been stuck with my upgraded k40 laser for some time - and this looks awesome!
Thanks for watching! K40 can cut some stuff that the S1 cant but the S1 is a WAY better working experience.
I had been eyeing up this laser for a while and your review convinced me to go for it. I just received the S1@40W today. After unboxing it and assembling the unit with its laser module, I connected the S1 via USB to my MacBook Pro 16" M1Max and fired up xTool Creative Space. Much to my dismay, I can not configure WiFi. No UA-cam reviews discussed the WiFi, so I assumed it would function, after all, what DOESN'T have built-in WiFi these days??? I'm very disappointed that I need to tether my MacBook to this S1 to use it. :(
I have set up Wifi on mine. You'll need to use your phone and the xTool app to do it. It's a little clunky, on Android at least, but once set up you can run jobs from the xTool Creative software over wifi. Lightburn doesn't support wifi though, unless you use Lightburn Bridge which looks like way too much work.
Hi Justin,loving your videos.
Tell me will it cause any harm if I setup one of my small surveillance cameras inside the case as the laser is engraving?❤
It's perfectly fine.
Awesome review,
Just wondering, if your material is L shaped how will the twin point positioning work??
Interesting problem. From what Ive noticed using it, I think you would need to break the design into 2 segments so it can be applied as 2 rectangle shape designs.
Great video instruction! Still trying to decide on a basic model for engraving. I’m a newbie! Couple questions how do you set up for multiple items? Or would you do 1 at a time? Example. Small wooden spoon stirrers.
If you have to use the curve surface detection Im not 100% sure if you can set that up for multiple items to run at once. Thats a great thing to look in to. If its a flat engrave, you will want to create a "jig" that the spoons sit in and you can run many at a time.
IR laser is that for infrared like the F1 what would be the difference, I have a Gorge I see that you have a tech behind you if you had to do a comparison what would it be and why
The IR module that you would put into the S1 is the same power as the F1. The massive difference being the S1 is a gantry system and the F1 is a galvo. So if all you want to do is smaller (max 4.5" x 4.5") engravings on metal the F1 is the better option because it will be MUCH faster. Not even comparable when it comes to speed. I touch on this a bit in my xTool IR module review video I did a little while back.
I'm new to lasers. Does it have a passthrough?
Also does xtool have a way to capture the smoke and fumes with a filter instead of routing out a window? That's not an option for me.
Thanks!
The base model S1 does not have passthrough. The riser base add-on does create the space needed however I am not sure if its intended as a passthrough slot by itself, or, specifically for the automatic conveyor feed. I will have to ask I am unsure on that myself. xTool does offer a fume extractor setup that will be compatible with this. I also use fume extractors for my other lasers. The problem is the cheaper ones never work as well. Take a look at Fume-x or Filtrabox Micro if you need a serious filter system.
Great review! Can you tell me the name of the exhaust hose/fan you showed in this video? Thanks!
Thanks! Yes its the AC Infinity S4 4" inline fan with their flexible hose. I use it for all of my smaller diodes and my fiber laser. I like the S4 because you can adjust the power unlike some of the other ones. I run it like half power in addition to the S1 fan which runs automatically.
Would you be able to engrave a skateboard with the rise base and the conveyer feed?
Considering the dimensions of a skateboard deck: Height: 47mm length: 880mm Depth: 200mm
Specififally wondering if the height would be enough
I believe the max engraving height with the riser bed is listed at 5". Would it be the deck without trucks on it?
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Just the deck, would be to engrave artwork onto it to hang it up on a wall
Hi, I am planning to get S1 and when it comes to leather cutting, is there cutting layer option in the software, in order to do/cut stitching holes before cutting the shape itself?
Nice video! Like the logic to save up more and just go for the p2
Thanks! Yeah diodes are getting way better (especially this S1) but co2 is where its at.
Hey Justin,
Great video. As I am new to this, would you recommend this machine over the xtool p2?
Trying to decide between the 20w version of this and the Glowforge aura for strictly leather cutting, any recommendations or insight based of your experience?
What are the dimensions of the useable bed size, not the workable bed size. I engrave concrete blocks 15"x15" , will it fit in this machine?
Dont think 15" is going to fit on the Y axis I will double check.
what kind of metal it can mark and can it do deep marking to a depth up to 4mm?
With the IR module installed it can mark ALL metals. If you use the standard 20 or 40w module, it can mark metals best with a marking spray like Cermark. No chance on a 4mm depth engraving. You are going to have to get a fiber laser for that.
I engraved stainless steel on mine. Definitely nothing close to 4mm though, at best ~0.2mm with the 40w module. Engraving looks great though.
have a question this is my first time buying a laser machine I want to make projects of acrylic this machine works ?
Not the best for acrylic. Not just this specific machine but any machine with a diode laser source. CO2 laser is best for acrylic.
Ordered one for my wife. Excited to see what she creates.
Very cool! Good luck with the laser journey it seems intimidating at first but its not too hard.
does the 20W version cut through 6mm+ wood nicely like the website suggests?? i'm just about to order it but i barely see any cutting tests of the S1 20W out there and getting me nervous to buy... all cuts are so thin at only 3mm... nothing thicker.
You must have dipped on that launch to film this video! Thanks for your fassssst work! Still looking for C02 under $10K not sure about P2 after watching lackluster launch of S1 last night. Too chaotic and too many Q’s imo. Any brand reco on C02 with lightburn? Might get thunder just to avoid problems and increase speed. But also looking at Aeon. Epilog too pricey. HELP. I’m worried about P2 after watching S1 last night. Mostly cutting textiles and leather but want to get into engraving some product extensions since my leatherwork takes a lot of time. Thoughts? Any ideas would be appreciated. Thank you very much. 💰🔥
I stayed in for a while but was getting late my daughter didnt let me sleep the night before haha. The Thunder and Aeon are great options for sure, $10k is a solid budget. The good thing about just dealing with leather is you dont need any crazy bed size or wattage rating. I have a 65w and its PLENTY for leather. The big question is do you want a "desktop" size unit or do you have space for a full-size?
@@justinlaser thanks for the 65w reco bcuz when shopping you think you need the 100w and you get FOMO. desktop would be great but I think they’re overpriced with the air add ons … I have 100 year old house with shaky floors so I don’t think I can swing a super heavy floor model. Garage freezes. when I look at thunder and some of the entry level higher end desktop models (“maker models”) … they position them as a hobby machine but since those are really tight companies maybe I should take another look. I don’t want the bottom, entry-level model, but I guess I need to be realistic that I don’t really need a 60 inch bed either (even though my textiles are 60”L). I have to remind myself I’m not a factory. Are you still digging your boss? Any desktops you’re impressed by? Would you go with the reputable high end brand again like you did with your boss? I don’t have time to tinker and trouble shoot iffy machines that are a great deal (omtech set up videos are sketch). Thank you kindly for your advice!
You can change how long the fan remains on in the setting [now]
They got me with the software upgrade haha. Maybe they watched.
Would love to see if this machine can engrave a 40oz Stanley top to bottom and 360
Would be a great test.
Hello :) just ordered.
How this s1 will do with cutting solid thick (1,5mm) cardboard with glued graphics on top and bottom?
What are the dimensions of the actual unit?
Without riser base about 30" x 22" x 7".
Thank you! Was having a difficult time finding the dimensions of the physical unit rather than bed size from their website. Thanks again!
Nice! I got it like a month ago and still wanting to know if I can cut and engrave clear acrylic but can't find any info about it. Does anyone know if it's possible?
Great job, just when you said may or may not of, l got a good laugh
😂😂 Thank you!
Hi what is the thickest it will cut on pine or ply?
What would be examples of projects/uses that you would need the 40W over the 20W?
I am torn between the 20 w S1 or the M1
If you dont need the knife feature for cutting paper/vinyl get the S1.
Is there preset settings for materials like the M1?
I will need to check. That would be a function of Creative Space so Id imagine even if there isnt one right now, there will be soon.
Xtool (f1 included) all need a mute option for that prompt "beep*"
Haha MAN that thing is loud!!
thanks for the video. I have the s1 40w. I cant seem to figure out how to get to the speed settings. It only gives an option for the power. Any insight would be greatly appreciated
Can this cut through Dibond?
Great video !! Good job , can u tell me what is LpCm that u mention I. Your vidoe
Are you in the CRapids area?
New Jersey.
There is no doubt it's a nice "looking" laser, but the absence of a camera is a deal breaker. The 2-point system is only functional when using a square piece of wood, it won't map out a triangle, precut "hobby shop" wood shapes like a circle, arrow, plus sign...you get the point. With odd shapes, you're forced to frame it with the cross hairs.
They made a big deal about the 2-point being more accurate than a camera, then why did they put 2 cameras in the P2? They should of put a camera in the S1...opportunity missed.
They also made the work area too small, if you have a 13" x 13" piece of wood it won't work, and if you spend the money on the riser and conveyor, it still won't work because the 13" x 13" is too small and won't work with the conveyor.
They should of made the D1-V2 and put a nice enclosure around it, included the P2's camera and called it good.
Put some tape over the beeper.
The beeper MUST be taped!
There's an option to turn off the beep in machine settings according to the live stream. Click the gear next to the machine in the upper right hand corner and go to working parameters@@justinlaser
no one shows how long is exaust pipe from s1 if max streched
Wait there’s no air that comes with the 40W ?? Sounds dangerous
Two things that are not mentioned in your review. First, the S1 has a top speed of 600mm/sec, so it’s potentially a pretty fast machine. And second, (although you weren’t aware of at the time of your review) as of the XTOOL livestream last night, the S1 is in stock for immediate delivery in (at least) the US.
True I should have mentioned the speed factor. I tend not to go anywhere near that high when running engravings but its worth trying it out.
really haven't seen many videos on this unit yet
This thing makes Glowforge look like Fisher Price.
Do not use the S1 indoors! Save yourself so many health issues.
Get it next to a window and use extra air purifiers and a string inline fan with ducts to the outside.