JL LIFE- CAVFAB LCA’s, being able to adjust my caster on my Jeep JL Rubicon
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- Опубліковано 28 бер 2019
- Lifting your Jeep? not sure which lift to get? get something that has adjustable control arms and track bar. Cannot stress the importance enough of these parts. I installed the Mopar lift when I first got my JL (was the only option) and I wish I would have waited, from off centered axels, losing caster with the fix arms, crushing spring isolators and springs rubbing into the frame.
On my way to correct the caster of my Jeep with CAVFAB's adjustable front lower control arms. These are 2 x .25 wide DOM tubing, Johnny Joints, rebuildable, powder coated and ready to handle what you wanna throw at it.
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Nice choice going with the CavFab parts. I have their upper and lower control arms on my Jeep ZJ and I love them. Mine are the heim joint ones though. I also went with their crossover steering set up. It's solid 1.5 inch bars with heim joints. It rides a little rough but my articulation is awesome. I also like the fact that the heims are easy to grease and easy to replace the on the trail if need be.
Heim joints are badass for sure... but like u said... gets kinda rough for a daily... 😂 cavfab makes great stuff! My buddies xj is all heim’d jointed... and it flex’s like a champ!
My one heim joint on my jl is my rear track bar... I just spray it with wd 40 😂
Thanks for watching brother 🤙🤙
Great video, I have 2018 JLUR that drove straight like an arrow from the dealership on stock everything. I installed a terraflex 2.5 inch lift kit and added some 315 KO2s plus and adjustable track bar. Adjusted toe and axle centering and it still pulls to the right a lot. I was wondering if maybe fixing my camber will net positive result it's driving me crazy..
at around 6:40... Do you realize there are fittings to change the grease fitting angles. I'm not working on it, but it looks like a simple 90 degree fitting would have it very serviceable.
Another Great Video dude! Cant wait to see that thing decked out in CavFab gear
I’m gonna get with you guys and order the rest of the arms this week!
Don’t think Bromance is y’all enough 🧐 Ahhahahaha
Loving the stuff y’all been putting out!
Definitely love the look and function of these arms!
I got the rough country 3.5" amd works great. I got the v2 shocks with it.
Did you ever get rid of the wobbles? I’m in the same boat currently with the MOPAR lift and 3/4” spacers in the front. I’ve swapped out the tie rod, drag link, track bars and got adjustable control arms. Sitting on 37’s and can’t get rid of the wobbles.
I have the Metalcloak True Dual rate 2.5” lift, but bumping them up to the 3.5” coils since that’s the only thing required for the added inch. I also have the Teraflex Falcon 3.3 shocks that are good up to 4.5” lift.
What I’m getting at is if I had bought a JL right when they came out I would’ve gone for the Mopar lift, but I haven’t heard much good about the lift unless it came with your Jeep from the dealership. Have you changed out your lift(still catching up with your older videos)? Awesome install video!
Appreciate it! So my lift uses MC 3.5 springs... rock sport shocks
Steersmart front trackbar
Rock krawler rear track bar/ sway links
And working on gettin the remainder of the arms from cavfab..
Thanks for the video. It’s helpful. After you cut the brake line brackets off, is there any concern they’ll get caught up or damaged? Looking at synergy arms and they also recommend cutting or removing the bracket.
No sir.. leaving the bracket on I think would more likely cause unintended damage to things... I’m pretty sure any lift over 2 inches will recommend removing tht bracket... 🙌 thanks for watching! Appreciate the time u took for it! 🙌🙌🙌🙌
I know that getting the wobbles around 50 mph can really scare the s*** out of you! Happened to me a few weeks ago leaving the trail. I had lost a track bar nut and didn’t know it until I hit a bump doing 45 mph.
I was getting impatient, but I’m so glad I took your advice about the Mopar kit and waited on MetalCloak to release theirs for my 2 Door. I have the MC lift going on tomorrow with all the steer smarts upgrades and I’m so excited!
One plus of the MC LCAs over Rockrawler and Cav Fab is that the MC joints do not require any regular greasing or maintenance. The joints don’t even have grease fittings. They are also designed to be easily rebuilt after they fail.
I have heard great things about RK joint performance, but they do have a weird grease fitting that requires 000 lube (which can be hard to find). I have several friends that have broken their grease fittings on their Rockrawler stuff. They could have been using the wrong grease gun attachment though - I wasn’t there when it happened.
I’m like you though, I’m not a fan of cutting that metal above the mount to get a grease gun in there; I’d rather drop them every 6 months to grease them.
Great video Mo Dale. Once I find a truck to tow my rig around Ill be heading out your way. We will have to go wheeling! I got some Jeep Badges to get out there.
I agree about how awesome the maintenance free stuff sounds.. I’m more so curious how long it will last over greased joints..
I’m tryna hold out for a long arm kit... which is why I’m tryna correct everything as cheaply as possible while keeping quality in mind...
These have definitely helped reduce the wobble... but wasn’t the piece in the puzzle to fix it.. added balancing beads this week and again had a drastic improvement... so heading the right way...
I’m glad to hear u are liking ur MC!
Although we don’t have any trail badges in NM .... I’ll take you on some things u won’t forget 🤙🤙
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD Have you switched out your Front Track Bar yet? I will have my MC one left over from my kit if you want it; just cover the shipping.
Ur the man... but I won’t need it lol... I have steersmarts in mine... misty has the rock krawler. Thanks thou 🤙 super awesome for u to offer
Those look nice and beefy, good upgrade. I haven't changed out my control arms yet on my Mopar Lift. Maybe in time. Currently, I have the RK Pads on the springs (did that day one with install), then centered axles with RK front and rear adjustable track bars. The tracks bars helped make it less chaotic on bumps and stopped it from pulling to one side. Then relocated my bashed in stock steering stabilizer with MC bracket and added Fox 2.0 stabilizer. Fox all around! No wobble. I know everyone bashes on the Mopar kit. After my RK adds and stabilizer fix, it has done good for me. I think all lifts should come with track bars, it messes up the geometry otherwise. Mopar was slacking on that. Other lifts definitely have beefier arms and joints. After a bit I will probably add RK control arms to go along with my track bars. Someone left a comment on my track bar video, saying it made the JL ride much better when they added new RK arms after their track bars. Makes the caster better. Next weekend I am actually be helping my friend change out this Mopar lift for a full MC kit, minus the shocks. He is going to keep his Fox shocks for now. I'll need to test drive it and see whats up. :) FYI - JL LIFE RULES! Keep up the good work.
They are nice for sure... the mopar ones are not very strong.. hence the giant dent in the rear one... these have definitely helped the deathwobble... I’m starting to feel it’s an issue with my tires thou... I’m extremely disappointed how poorly they were mounted and balanced.. I’m thinking ima swap tires on mistys jeep and see if this fixes my problem... all the changes Iv been doing have been making things better thou... once things get smooth, I’ll upgrade the stabilizer...
Iv replaces both track bars... steering... springs... And now arms... lol
Thanks for watching brother, we always appreciate it!
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD Dang, that is rough. At least its getting better. At the time, it was the only kit on the market besides spacers lifts. Hopefully mine lasts a bit longer until I get a few more things done to my build. I will probably change out to all to RK over time and stick with my Fox. I'll see how my buddy's MC is next weekend.
Truth.. which is why I got it.. was the only one when I was ready to buy..
But I’m eyeballing rock krawler a X factor....
Or a long arm kit.. lol 😂🤙
Didn't the Mopar lift come with a new set of lower control arms that were 1/4 inch longer than stock?
Great video. I originally did same thing adding 1.5" spacers to my 2.5" springs. It was ok but I'm way happier now on Synergy 4.5" lift.
I really want to transition to a 4.5 Long arm kit... but waiting for more options... lol not waiting is how I ended up with this mopar lift to begin with.
Least when u start getting adjustable parts... it’s easier to go between heights lol
Thanks for watching brother
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD completely understand jl market is still slim compared to jk. I wanted to go long arms but after dropping almost 8k couldn't afford the extra $1k plus getting someone to help get new brackets attached since I'm not a welder. So I figured I could add long arms later since I now have everything else I needed. Great stuff brother can't wait to wheel with you guys sometime.
I just got my MOPAR lift today 😳 but I’m going with 35s and I’m not at your level of rock crawling craziness lol keep up the entertaining videos bro
Haha well I 100% recommend replacing both rear and front track bars! Adjustable is a must! 😂
Tht is the biggest problem with tht lift, if u don’t beat it I’m sure it will ride well 😂😂
Thanks for watching btw! We always appreciate the click!!! 😎🤙
Hi. Did your extra caster angle feel better at sharp bumps? I’m only at 4.5 caster as I tried to compensate a little for the pinion angle as I’m running a double cardan front drive shaft. My lift turned out to be 2.5inches.
The end was hilarious Dude!
Thank you! If I had u laughing, it was a successful video ahahah 😂🤙 thanks for watching friend !
Factory alignment after any lift is always a must .
My jl drove great till the mopar lift now every bump crack etc in the road makes the wheel shake ive done adjustable track bars the dealer alignment sheet says im at 4.7 degrees of caster im thinking bout adjustable lca’s next. Is there a screw to hold the brake line brackets on these or is it just sitting on there but it happens on both sets of my tires and if these lca’s dont work then its the yeti drag link and tie rod
No screw for the bracket lines to bolt too.. Iv actually cut mine off...
4.7 is kinda low... most people seem to be running at 5.5-6.5.
Steersmarts is robust stuff no doubt... I run it in my jeep... another great option is synergy... The biggest thing about synergy I like over my steersmarts... is the TRE replacements... $180 if you go steersmarts.... $30 for synergy...
I’m told steersmart Tre will outlast my Jeep... I hope they are right... cause $800 to replace all sides... 😬Ahhahahaha
You only got front lowers? Long arm? You crack me up, how many times you going to build bromance exactly?
Yea. Only front lower right now
Haha 🤷♂️ when I get something new to build lol
How did these work out for you, I’m on the same boat with rockkrawler suspension and xfactor lower arms rubbing on tire.
They are still working out great! Hit em on rocks, scratched... not dented... I know when I got these... they were the thickest on the market... I need to finish buying the rest of these arms.. very pleased with em.
I really like rock krawler stuff... they make quality parts... but I know exactly what ur talking about... tht bend away from the ground, instead of the tire....
The good news is they are finally redoing their joints and won’t require that special/ expensive grease anymore. 😂🙌
Thanks for watching friend
what did you do with the brake line bracket? did you re-attach it or is it just hanging there?
So I ended up cutting it off with a dremel and cutoff wheel. Kept a rag and spray bottle full of water next to me... as I was cutting... I’d just make sure I kept it cool enough not to melt the brake lines... I tried prying it open.... but no matter how hard I tried... it didn’t happen
If you swapped the control arms to the other side the zerks would be on the bottom, no?
U absolutely could. However wouldn’t work for the offroading I do... I would shear it off on a rock and cause more headaches then it would be worth
Nice video brother , have you changed the front track bar? Seems like the stock ones causing some death wobble.
Yea, I have the steer smart yeti XD .... damn thing is thicc lol
JL LIFE OFFROAD oh yeah they are great , i have the rock krawler front track bar , it’s wierd that you still have that death wobble with that track bar on
I believe the tires were poorly mounted and balanced.. the red/ yellow dots are gone (rubbed off from the rocks) and cant really find the spots again..
JL LIFE OFFROAD did you check all the ball joints if they’re maybe loose?
I don't know, you might have installed it wrong upside down if your zerk fittings are unreachable and have to drop the arms to grease them. All the other reputable brands have the zerk fitting on the bottom.
It really how you want to do it... with all the rocks I hit and drive over... I prefer having those safe and out of the way... the zerks on the frame are 100% reachable in place for grease 🙌🙌
could the straight zerks be replaced with 90* zerks and not have to cut or remove to grease them?
U know, I seen those for the first time a few weeks ago... and wanted to get a few to try out.. as I had the same question u did... I guess the question is, can u set wht angle to put tht zerk?
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD I know they make straight 45* and 90* zerks. Should be enough room for a 90* just depends if you can get the grease gun on it.
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD if the 90* zero won't line up right you could get this. Way better than dropping the arm everytime. ua-cam.com/video/cNhblo_WDdg/v-deo.html
Thanks man, I’ll definitely check this out when I got more time!
I got the mopar lift 35’ tires, but I also have the adjustable track bars from metalcloak and my JL rides smooth and straight .....
The biggest problem is the track bars for sure. So being able to add caster definitely helped reduce my wobble... but it still there. I believe this is a issue with my tires now...
however the durability of the mopar arms don’t impress me... with the large dent in mine.... and Iv seen one recently snapped in 2...upgrading the arms is something I’d still recommend to people who like to wheel the way I do.
Thanks for watching 🤙🙏
90• zerk instead of drilling a hole or dropping it every 6 months
I have a question I went to get a alignment they are saying my tires have a slight toe inward. The say it’s because I don’t have adjustable ball joints. Their saying my ball joints aren’t worn out I just need adjustable ones. What do you think before I go out and buy new ball joints
Ball joints ain’t gonna have any bearing on ur toe... toe is set by ur tie rod... the bar that connects the tires.. adjustable ball joints will adjust ur camber..
As far as if u need to replace em..... are u having deathwobble??
JL LIFE OFFROAD no it drives perfectly
Then why did u need an alignment? Change something in your suspension?
JL LIFE OFFROAD put a new tie rod and drag link on
You were right the paper said my camber Is inward
Great review
I’ll continue to stress tests these for sure... but they definitely make things look beefy underneath unlike the stock arms.. but can’t wait to punish these! Thanks for watching!!
What's your take on the Metalcloak Duroflex joints vs Johnny joints?
I love the idea of those joints, I won’t lie... Kevlar, minor maintenance, sounds like a perfect fit... Johnny joints are also proven and are great blend of bushing and hiem joints
I don’t think u would go wrong either way 🤙🤙
Lmfao. Foil teeth was hilarious
Lol thanks for watching brother... 🙏 glad I could make u laugh 😂😂🤙
JL LIFE OFFROAD for sure bro
So whats the caster angle now?
6’8 -6.9
It looks to me you have the arms in backwards I’ve never seen that style arms in this way.
Are u talking about the adjustable towards the frame? That’s how iv seen everything for the JL set up....
JL LIFE OFFROAD the big adjustableJohnny joint should be on the axle not the frame.
Hmm... I also asked CAVFAB (to be sure) before I did the video... they advised the adjustable side goes to frame
JL LIFE OFFROAD look at Evo adjustable arms on Wayalifes JL. Lite Brites MetalCloak arms. I think they told you the wrong thing even on the JK‘s Johnny joint adjustable arm piece goes on the axle unless you have both of them on each end.
You installed them right. That's the way I was told to set mine up also. The whole idea is to have the adjustment nut as far from the ground as possible so no damage occurs; making it hard to remove. Mine are Heim Joint on one side and Poly on the other. You want the flexible joint end toward the frame for the most articulation, not the axle. Because you have Johnny Joints on both ends, your definitely all good.
So where is your caster set now?
6
Thanks, I’m hearing getting it as close to 6° is where you want it after it’s lifted (for JL’s).
Yes sir... tht is the sweet spot for most
your brive lines are your next up grade yes
Not quite. Brake lines in these JLs come from factory pretty long and are not an issue yet... however once I finally upgrade to a long arm kit tht will likely be the time I put in longer lines 🤙🤙
Thanks for watching I really appreciate it!
so by adjusting the arm length will adjust your caster bring it back close to stock is that what your explaing in a nut shell? would that be the same as if i went full metal cloak long arm kit ?
Yea, the caster is the angle the axle is facing. Most are confined to adjusting the lowers and upper control arms to obtain the caster angle their rig rides best in. If you are into fabbing, u can always cut the factory mounts and weld in new ones… giving u the caster u want while not over bending the axle/ drive shaft joint…
Replace your trackbar with a solid one. It makes a world of difference.
Currently have the steersmart yeti xd in the front and rock krawler I’m the back
Thanks for the input thou 🤙🤙
Nice video! Kim just said... “you were texting with this famous guy today?”
Hahahahahaha my main goal is to blow up! And act like I don’t know nobody!! 🦈 ahhahahahahahaha
And thanks for watching and supporting us! 🤙
JL LIFE OFFROAD of course! Gotta support our fellow JL Jeepers!
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cavfab doesnt sell wj parts. :(
😬😬😬 unfortunately... they do not
I’ve used there performance parts on my truck never there Suspension parts but good to know stay away from them🤙
Mopar... yea... most of their stuff is over priced or half way thought through. But thanks for watching!!
Have any cavfab on tht xj? They make some awesome looking stuff for those. I hear a lot of good stuff about their steering for em.
JL LIFE OFFROAD Going to have to check them out I just hit a pothole and front end started to shake looking for an easy 1ton steering
If u land on it... lemme know what u think... pretty sure they got a badass warranty on tht system also.
Kind of unfair when you added two inch spacers and said the Mopar lift is no good, weren’t the arms length designed for for a 2” inch lift
I was rolling my springs over before the spacers went on.
Mopar has some over sight with that lift... no adjustable arms nor track bars...
After adding caster the deathwobble has reduced a good amount.... but it’s still there... I’m starting to feel the culprit are my tires now...
All Jeeps are different and adjustablity is key to keep things in a medium to stay happy.
The mopar kit is overpriced, and for tht kind of money, adjustable arms and track bars should be there.
But no worries if you enjoy ur mopar lift... do ur thing 🤙 I’m just letting people know what I think and experience with what I have.
Thanks for watching, I really appreciate it!
JL LIFE OFFROAD JL LIFE OFFROAD dude I really enjoy your videos, hilarious. I appreciate your insight into things I haven’t tried myself. My Jeep is on 35’s so I think that is the reason it’s working out for me. But I am going with 37” tires in a few months, with that said I am appreciate what your saying. I really like those arms they look pretty thick. I might go with those when I’m ready to upgrade. Appreciate the response.
Lol no worries brother... adding caster definitely helped which is another awesome reason to get adjustables... but I actually had some some DW this week .. I’m starting to think the problem is poorly balanced tires at this point.. when I was on my 35 ko2... it drove amazing lol...
glad to hear u enjoy the videos! I love talking to our supporters!
But seriously get adjustable track bars for tht lift if u haven’t already! 😎🤙🙏
JL LIFE OFFROAD they are certainly in my future
Right on! 🤙🤙 I got rock krawler in the back and steersmarts in the front...
Just when u go wheeling always check ur springs after, at one point mine were rolling/ crushing the lower spring isolator after I went out for the day. 🙏
Sounds like Chris Griffin a lil bit😂
hey, now thats what control arms are supposed to look like, getchja some uppers next, all this stuff gonna increase the smiles. grease every six months? lol try every couple of runs! Frankenlift lmfao nice grill.
Lol u think uppers before the rear lowers?
Eventually ima put in a long arm kit... but gonna be waiting for some more options... as EVO is the only one with one out right now...
A greased joint is a happy joint... 😂🤙
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD evo makes good stuff.
Will wait to see what RK puts out... suppose to be soon
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD Technically you should have front lowers and rear uppers to start. The you can complete it with the front uppers and rear lowers.
Thanks Jen. I don’t believe anything John tells me! 😂🤣
You can go to grainger.con and get a 90 degree grease nedlel point i use this to grease all my suspenssion joints front driveshaft everithing basicly. part # 4zt25. $13 and change plus 10 dolars shipping!
Ill need to do that, I hate dropping control arms to grease
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD it is basicly a nidel but grease will go true without any problem! Good luck i love your videos my friend!
Beefy LCA' S!! I hate to critique such an awesome video, BUT..... "Neighborhood weed SPARYER". What about that "forward thrust"? Should we aks M??😲😲😏😏😂😂😂😂😂
J/K bro, awesome video. Keep it up!!💪👊👊
Hahaha it was a truck with a motor hooked up to a giant tank.. they kept parking on front of my house and would pull the sprayer house all the way down the block... having tht damn generator going in the back round was driving me NUTs... to boot with hitting my head half a dozen times on my bumper... I was at my breaking point ahahahha
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD You have sprayers, I have airplanes....😏😏😏
Just use a 90° zero instead of drilling a hole.
Awesome video and please wear safety glasses next time
Lol awww u care!!
LMAO
Hey! Got the view in early! ❤️😂🤙 my man! 😎
The image is too offensive
I never blew up 😂
If you would have showed wtf you were doing instead of showing your face in the camera the whole time just maybe people would have gotten something out of this video.
Rough day huh?
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD I guess it would be fair to say that. Trying to figure out how to adjust and align the casters with new adjustable control arms has been a PITA.
I’ll be honest with u... home alignment can be tedious... when I was tryna figure out where to set my caster... I seriously test drove it after every turn until I was happy... taking it to a shop... they can dial it way better with their machine.
But if ur looking for a better how to do ur own alignment... I’d recommend this video
ua-cam.com/video/0zFzDwdbDts/v-deo.html
@@JLLIFEOFFROAD Thank you very much. I'm very sorry for biting your head off and yet you still helped me. Your a good person, I'm a bonehead!
No worries... we all entitled to the occasional rough day... I hope tht dirt lifestyle helps.... but always happy to answer questions when I can 🙌