Donkey Kong Country Game Boy Ports | Punching Weight | SSFF
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2020
- Donkey Kong Country ports. Funky forever, mine carts never.
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Derek: Hey, I'm Derek.
Me: Who's Derek?
Derek: It's me Derek.
Me: Ok, cool.
Its always so jarring, since my name is Derek too lol
I love how in the thumbnail Derek always looks like he's been given the gift from heaven or something lmao
DKC *is* a gift from heaven, so that’s fair
i love dony kong he is my faverite character he is A GRATE APE 🦍 🦍 🦍
The weird, ambitious or unnecessary is always a gift to Papa Derek.
Reminds me of the is this a pidgeon meme
Since he LOVES weird ports, this must be how he feels when playing them.
"Hey, we're the audience, it's us, the audience!"
Uncle Audience
Yup, that was indeed a thing said in the video.
@@DCstar It's been a running goof in the comments since "Hey I'm derek, it's me derek" started. It's not "something that was said in the video."
This comment is a comment in the UA-cam comments
@@DCstar way to be a dick lol
1:21 these are pretty cool bananas
*Screams of death following afterwards*
Aaaaagggghhhh
Quite a lovely bunch.
"If you are a dev, save your progress!" Funny thing is the recent Nintendo leaks show Nintendo headquarters in Japan is super meticulous about making sure they keep their old stuff backed up, to the point I think they're probably one of the few big name Japanese companies that does that given there have been stories that companies like Square and Konami lost the source code for some of their biggest titles (Konami infamously lost the source codes for the old Silent Hill games and the poor devs they tasked with the infamous HD Collection had to work with buggy unfinished builds that they had no idea how the original devs fixed many of the issues, and Square admitted to losing the source code for Final Fantasy VIII, which is why the remaster actually rebuilt the game in Unity, and for Kingdom Hearts 1, meaning the HD version of KH1 is actually a recreation rather than a mostly straight port).
Not to mention that Collection of Mana is on Switch largely because while Square had long since lost the source code for Trials of Mana, Nintendo still had it.
@@MerelyAFan Oh neat. Kinda makes me wonder about Super Mario RPG given that game is known to have a bit of a rights issue as while Nintendo obviously retained all rights to their existing Mario characters, Square ended up retaining the rights to the character they created specifically for that game, which is why characters like Geno and Mallow are a case of "ask Square about getting them in Smash, not Nintendo, Nintendo doesn't own them." Did Nintendo retain the source code because it's Mario related, or did Square take it with them during the "late 90s divorce" between the two parties?
@@BloodRedFox2008 The recent leak uncovered an early version of Konami's Castlevania IV, and all sorts of source/beta elements of the SNES Star Fox titles, which were developed more by Argonaut than Nintendo proper. Between that and that SMRPG was fairly popular game, I'd venture to say its likely Nintendo does have it, both for potentially using the assets again and for the off chance of it ever being remade.
The leaks came from China, not Japan. It's quite likely Nintendo has none of those files anymore. And the tapes that were ripped to files (Data was stored on cassette tapes at one point in time) had a lot of read errors according to the logs included therein. We've lost quite a bit. Sure, we have quite a bit more than other companies... But not a lot, and not because of Nintendo- more because of iQue.
Didn't they use a rom from the internet for one of the virtual console releases of super Mario Bros?
The amount of great classic we lost because they weren't correctly saved is quite astounding.
It always saddens me how few (if any) companies understand how important archivists truly are
With how limited and expensive storage was back then, it shouldn’t be of any surprise. Archival media, print aside, is still a relatively new thing.
Rena Lanford funnily the more modern media gets, the shorter it lasts. There are plenty of medieval books in almost perfect shape but CDs wont work anymore in 100 years
@@SuperMistertoast There's still companies that print emails because it's the best way to preserve them.
Technology just move up too fast. Whoever uses floppy disks anymore? We also have far more data than back in the past (a few books, some legal documents)
And the video game industry just makes all of this even harder.
It was more just the mentality of the past, sort of like with how TV show preservation used to be nonexistent (which speaking as a Doctor Who fan I'm painfully aware of).
Back in the day the concept of rereleases, remasters, and ports to later hardware wasn't really a thought people had (at least when it comes to console devs) so preserving source code and such wasn't really in their mind. The thought process was simply that once a game shipped, that was the end of it. Maybe there necessary bug fixes or revisions that would be patched into later copies, but that was again mainly a PC and Arcade thing.
With that said, it's all the more reason I support emulation, hacking, and "piracy". Because that was just the thought process for many companies of the past to no real fault of their own.
You mean what, DKC developement material that was never going to be publicly released, the loss of which ultimately ended up being little more than a mild inconvenience for the developers of the GBA port? Sorry, but I fail to see why anyone should care here.
"The second level is an ice level. Who does that?"
Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze?
Nah it's still tropical
*laughs in crash the wrath of cortex*
Boerka Sainte actually, Arctic Antics was the first level in Wrath of Cortex.
Donkey Kong Land
Now with Funky Mode!!!
@@Hyper_Drud The second level in Crash 2 is an ice level!
zak wojnar I wasn’t talking about Crash 2, I was talking about Wrath of Cortex.
Uncle Derek looks so tired from the move. We love you Uncle Derek, be well
moving sucks
You forgot to mention "Donkey Kong 5: The Journey of Over Time and Space"
Yeah, how could he?
The one where Donkey Kong endeavours to not be a starving monkey and instead eat enough to become a mighty ape capable of rescuing the fair maiden Sodoma?
@@kodybuffettwilson Yeah, that one!
Wut
@@tootsie_ You have not heard of Donkey Kong 5: The Journey of Over Time and Space? What a shame.
"The second level is an ice level. Who does that?"
Yo! Noid did that.
But we've been taught to Avoid the Noid.
And now you know why.
Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex had an ice level as it's first level.
So you're telling me that Donkey Kong Land is literally just DK saying "OK boomer, hold my beer"?
Basically
Kinda, but it's still DK playing. And you wind up going inside the computer.
Reading the manual in full... it almost sound like an "F You" to Shigeru when you read it. I get that feeling specifically because Cranky says that DKC only sold well because of the visuals and that if it were compressed onto a handheld nobody would play it, while DK and Diddy say the gameplay was what sold it.
And if you know what Miyamoto allegedly said about DKC during the development hell of Yoshi's Island, that seems a bit more heated than just "haha funny old man".
Yeah, but it does look horrible on an original game boy, everything blends in with each other, the sequels was a little better since the characters did stand out a bit from the backgrounds
“You should only play this Game Boy port of a Super Nintendo game on the Super Game Boy accessory for the Super Nintendo”
Bro
BRO
Hahaha
They’re not ports tho
wait,
9:54 That’s just the rendition from DK Land. This port used quite a bit of music from Land, actually.
11:32 And that wasn’t Tim Stamper who said that. It was a former Rare dev who went under the pseudonym “Stamporz”.
Huh, when I was a kid, DKC for Game Boy Color was my first exposure to the series and I managed to beat it. It was lent to me by the older brother of one of my classmates and he was very impressed when I showed him, I had no notion of it being much harder than other versions.
Lol same i beat that game alot as a kid, pokemon blue and DKC kept me busy on car rides and even in my bedroom
I'm playing through it for the first time in RetroArch on my Android phone.
Fun fact: the GBA port of Donkey Kong Country 3 featured an entirely original soundtrack composed by David Wise, who wasn't involved in the music for the SNES original. They also added a new world with a few new levels as well.
I felt the need to say "Hey I'm Derek it's me Derek" the other day even though I was alone and my name's not Derek.
What have you done to me?
Honestly one of my favorite intros.
You're Derek to me buddy
If you'd like to try the Land trilogy, I'd recommend trying them on a GBA or Game Boy Player. The GBA can assess separate color pallets to the background tiles and foreground sprites, helping the characters be less lost in the busy graphics.
I guess the Gameboy Color would look similar to the Super Gameboy... and it is very close to OG hardware.
@@zeitgeist27 For games with custom Super Game Boy pallets programmed in, you are still only going to get 4 colors in any one playfield, though they can change from level to level. On Game Boy Advance, both the background and sprites get their own 4 color pallet, helping the sprites stand out from the background. You will lose custom Super Game Boy enhancements, like pallets selected specifically for each stage, or a separately palleted status bar, but you gain twice the color in the playfield where the game play is. It's certainly a bit of give and take. I wish I had a more clear example to show, but here is DKL played on Game Boy Player. ua-cam.com/video/mUv4iSeM43A/v-deo.html
Also a good note that he was playing on the Gameboy Pocket which has awful motion blur that's not present if you play it on Gameboy Color/Advance
Breaks my heart to learn that the source material has been lost to time.
I always wanted them port the game to a modern system, without "down sampling" the models to sprites.
I would love to see those models running natively in 3D, at 16x9 in the hightest resolution possible.
I'd like to really get a good look under the hood.
The GBC port has an exclusive level and effectively 3 hard modes which take away DK and/or checkpoint barrels. I should know, I've beaten it many times. I never had a SNES.
Hey, Derek! It’s me, Ryan! Always happy to see some more Punching Weight on the UA-cam scene. I never played the DK games on the GameBoy myself and, seeing the footage, it is definitely impressive what they pulled off with the hardware! Also, congratulations on the big move! Hope the new space works out for you!
Best way to play the Land series is on the GBA SP or GB Player, which have backlight and color the sprites to make them standout more.
And GBA County 3 got a new soundtrack.
yep, and as a zoomer who grew up with the GBA versions of DKC it was jarring as hell when I played the SNES version of DKC3 on NSO, lol.
Like, it's not "bad", it's just definitely not David Wise. I do like the bonus level theme from the original OST more than the GBA version's though.
It's Eveline Noviac who composed the SNES version@@warbossgegguz679
Had Donkey Kong Land when all I had was my OG Game Boy. There really are some cool concepts and level designs not found in the mainline console series. Loved this video!
I don’t think there’s anyone better than you at this. You’re so wholesome, and you play enough unique content that I either missed out on when younger, or just didn’t have my eye on- that you entertain me like nobodies business, my guy! I grew up with all 3 DKCs, my mom is still the champion of them. But I never got the ones for my Gameboys.... I might have to change that!
The Motion Blur in DKLI makes me want to vomit. Now I know how my wife has felt ever since she got pregnant...
It was worse for those of us who still had the original grey brick GB. Green and yellow screen with pixelated ACM? It was a thing of beauty...at the time. My old copy still has my save in World 4, waiting for me to finally pass that one level.
Ghosting
I started with the GBC Donkey Kong Country game and I remember feeling like it was close enough at the time... I have no idea how I could over look so much.
I never noticed until now the way Derek's tie in the thumbnail highlights the DK in his name. Beautiful! xD
Derek at 9:38: *Talks about the GBC Aquatic Ambiance*
Me, a professional singer/pianist: *Obviously you've never heard me play it on my piano.*
Well, upload it then! If you’re gonna just talk that talk, back it up!
That’s interesting, I played the GBC port of Donkey Kong Country many times when I was a kid, and I thought it did really well. That said, I never owned an SNES until January this year, so I could do a revisiting some time.
I personally feel a bit repelled from the GBA ports as there are too many cartoony sound effects for my personal taste, but all’s well.
I've so lost interest in being good at games anymore in my old age... I'm playing the Switch SNES release of DKC and making HEAVY use of the rewind! This looks maddening!
I never had the original so playing the difficult gbc version definitely makes it so much easier to play the original version now on emulators. That gameboy color port was SO hard! The mine cart crap was insane.
"If you do not get this new generation of Donkey Kong madness, you are stupid! That may be insulting, but it's the truth!"
5:54 The GBC Donkey Kong Country music has an awesome heavy metal resemblance that I as a metalhead just really enjoy.
Always great quality when Uncle Derek speaks and Producer Grace edits. Happy moving guys.
11:12 you know, THAT'S funny. I remember when Pixar said that SAME thing with when attempting to remaster Toy Story for Blu-Ray. Technology is INDEED a harsh mistress...
Also at 0:49 you said "Advanced" when the title clearly shown "Advance". Not that I'm complaining, I'm just pointing that out there.
DKC 3 for GBA has a custom David Wise soundtrack, different from SNES.
As well as the game included an exclusive new world in the game and added a new boss in one of the original worlds because of how one of the original bosses was the new world boss
Perfect video topic. I like it. Love your channel and podcast guys!
Donkey Kong Land II was my first ever Gameboy game. That game and Donkey Kong Land III helped me survive so many family trips during my childhood. Played them recently as an adult, and they still hold up.
Thank you for making me feel like a badass for being good at the GBC port back when. It took a lot of blood sweat and tears as a kid but eventually I got the mine cart parts down and was able to even speed run some levels. I had this and no SNES at the time so I had to adapt in a brutal fashion
Excited to watch a new video from you :D Exciting times getting a new office! Keep up the great videos :)
I really enjoyed this video! I wasn’t around yet when these games came out, so I’m wanting to try them and see what I missed out on. I’ll definitely be on the look out for these DK games!
Cranky Kong: “You can’t really make this look good on a game boy”
Gameboy modding community: “Watch me.”
"Oh, these are pretty cool bananas."
Holy cow, those GBA ports were a childhood staple of mine. I probably played and completed them as often as the SNES originals. The ports of the 1st 2 games also have a time attack mode that can actually be quite challenging. By the way, someone recently put out a color restoration patch for the GBA port of the first game that makes the game visually closer to the SNES original. Patches like that already exist for the Super Mario Advance series, and I hope someone makes ones for 2 and 3. I think I only played the GBC port once through emulation, and it was harder than anticipated.
I was so happy the second you made this video public,donkey Kong country is my favorite platformer of all time, it takes everything from super Mario world that I liked, and not only made it look, sound, and play good, but it made for a difficult journey. I love you to the relation of the games, and I'm so happy somebody out there on UA-cam is finally getting to these. Seriously, I've been waiting for Johnny to get to a donkey Kong Marathon for like ever.
Check out The Geek Critique's DKC videos, they are great.
@@19Szabolcs91 oh trust me I have, I'm very happy about him, and I've been following him for a while. If anything, he's one of the best reviewers I've ever followed. There's just something about his style of reviewing that I just love. it's the amount of passion in his words, and it's really inspiring.
I played the crap out of the GBA DKC ports and had a lot of fun with them. Nice job with the video and good luck with the new place.
My biggest issue with the GBA port is the lack of the speedup you get when you roll through an enemy. I really like that mechanic, and I'm sad they didn't include it.
Also as a side note the SNES Version has warps too, just not the warp rooms.
So glad you guys are back!!
0:57 You know that George Wood loves those!
You gotta love that Donkey Kong Land was essentially the video-game port version of the Shaggy "Are you challenging me?" meme.
Donkey Kong Land 2 was one of my first video games and will always have a special place in my heart.
You all merely adapted to the minecart levels, I was born in the minecart levels, I didn't see a SNES until I was already a man.
Perfect dark game boy color is so much better than it’s given credit for. I loved that game. Completed it several times and the rumble cart wad bad ass
I like this video a lot. I didn’t miss you swinging your arms around all the time
Congrats on the new place! Looking forward to seeing what you do with the office :)
You look exhausted, dude!
Glad to see you back!!
No joke, this might actually be my fav youtube channel. Maybe next time you could do DK arcade ports
I’ve been so excited for this vid! Also, you look incredibly tired Derek, I know how that feels (my last move was all the way across Texas and it was exhausting). Hope you get settled and get some rest!
For real, Land 3 was amazing. We moved across the country at the end of 1999, I got a GBC for an early holiday gift, Land 3 was one of the few games I had for that week in the moving van. Between this and Pokemon Yellow, I was SET!
Great vid as always man!
I... I kinda love that the last 5 videos have had Uncle Derek's same silly "Oooh" Face and I kinda hope they just keep it for a while lol
I need one of those Clock Tower shirt.
Fr. If you find one lmk
The link is in the description
Congrats on the new digs Derek and Grace!
The SSFF Donkey Kong Comments Drinking Game!
-Take a drink every time someone references the DK Rap.
-Take a drink every time someone makes a "get it on like Donkey Kong" joke.
-Take a drink every time someone makes a monkey pun/joke.
-Take a drink every time someone mentions a DK game Derek doesn't.
-Take a drink every time someone makes a genuinely positive comment about Derek and/or Grace.
But....you are my favorite channel. You're one of the few I have the bell on for because I like watching your videos as soon as they come out. Keep up the fantastic work and stick it to the UA-cam algorithm.
I have been waiting for this day!
Always appreciate new videos!!!
1:20 “Oh These Pretty Cool Bananas 🍌”
1:22 *unholy 14 year old screaming*
1:25 *Insert table smacking*
Nice to hear about the new place man!
Hope it all goes well
Thanks for this awesome video!
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
Wow, I had such a hard time with Donkey Kong Country on the GBC when I was a kid. This makes me feel so much better!
Nothing beats seeing a notification of a New SSFF video
I would love to see some some punching weight on the Neo Geo Pocket Color! To me, it's the little handheld that could. Though it has limited appeal to most, I think there's some really great games on there that are worth talking about and playing for sure. Games like SNK Vs Capcom are especially impressive, as well as the myriad of other fighting games, seeing how Metal Slug gets converted to a non-arcade experience, and some interesting ports/games people may not know about like Tactics Ogre, Sonic Pocket Adventure, and Cotton. Anyways, keep up the good work, love you content as always!
I grew up with the GB Color version, and as a result, that one's my favorite.
I used to own Donkey Kong Country on the GBC! It was super fun but hard to see. Nice video!
In Donkey Kong Land, at the bottom of the screen are hearts, which are lives. Max out from left to right with all hearts, and the game stops counting them onscreen. But whenever you turn the game off, it doesn't save them. Levels also won't save progress unless you collect the KONG letters in a stage. That's the only way to save progress. But even if you do that with max lives, it won't save the number of lives.
What a legendary series. Loved these portable versions.
What an amazing series. Hey, good luck with the move you two! Be safe! ❤️
The Gamebou Advance port is the reasons I grew up with Donkey King Country despite growing up during the Xbox/PS2/GameCube generation. It was my first Gameboy game!
DK land 1 was so difficult I never beat it. 2 and 3? Absolute joys to behold. Dk Land 3 is an example of where they figured out what they needed to do with each installment getting better as they went.
I own all the DK Land games on Gameboy and 2 is my favourite. The difference between actually being able to see your character in 1 and 2 is quite literally like night and day.
Also I remember the temple world stage music was pretty great, and also I think that was a music track that wasn't in the SNES version (kinda, it's more a music remix than a music port)
The Virgin Daddy Derek vs. The Chad Uncle Derek
I'm one of those weirdos that actually love every single GB Donkey Kong game, really enjoyed the video!
This is where the fun begins!
I got that DKC GameBoy color port with my GBC. It's so impressive that they got the whole game onto the tiny GameBoy cartridges to this day.
"All other games will have to live up to this one!" That hype was true, for once. Even Mario's platforming had to stand up to the Kong!
Congrats on the new place!!!! Played the Game Boy ones but not the GBA... WOW! I'm still to this day impressed at what the GBA could do!
I used to think GBA DKC was trash, but I never actually played it. Seeing it now I can appreciate it, the FOV isn't zoomed in like if they just strait up ported it. The DKland 2 and DKC 2 ports I've always loved though, they were just damn amazing.
Not a lie, I live this channel. I have my own and I have recorded audio pitching this channel. Keep up the great work! Hope to be a patron once money isn’t so tight. Thank you so much for the content.
Donkey Kong Country 2 for GBA also had an exclusive boss fight that were originally suppose to be in the Super NES original but was cut from that version due to lack of memory.
"most megaman games on the gameboy are a far cry from the NES originals"
Mega Man V (that you showed in the fooatge) would like to have a talk with you.
V is an exception, not the standard of the GB Megamen
@@ClaireZhasa
the first one is more well designed and challenging than some of the NES ones ever were (eg: 2 and 5 are particularly poor in design on NES, 6 aswell falls apart on fortress stages and adaptors, 1 also has some sections inferior to gameboy first one), fourth one aswell aside from crystal man, third one also has some decent levels that are still better than most of 2 or 5 NES.
Holy crap! I didn’t know there was Perfect Dark GBA port. You have to do a video on that someday (if I missed that, someone please point it out because I’d love to see it). Great video!
I had a simple rule growing up: no new games until you beat the last one or Christmas comes. I got DKC GBC for Christmas '00, my next game was Castlevania CotM & a GBA for Xmas '01. That goddamn minecart level...
The very first time I saw and played donkey Kong was a bootleg 'super donkey kong' for famicom - basically an port of GB's super DK. Even though it was just a fan made game I just loved it. I did not learn about the real DK until the times of the Internet.
Oh, man, I had that yellow GameBoy Pocket, with DK Land. My first GB game, I remember sharing it around at school because I couldn't get past the stupid difficult levels. And having to play buried under a blanket on the backseat to see anything at all
The GBC port of DKC was my first GBC game, and my first Donkey Kong game. I love it still.
I've never heard of the GBC rendation of land 3. Strange that never came to the west. Also wasn't the OST of DKC3 changed for the GBA port due to the system speakers not being able to handle the original? Great video, btw.
I thought it was changed to be more ambiant like 1 and 2 because 3's OST wasnt liked.
A little of both. David Wise did the majority of 1and 2’s soundtracks, but was working on other projects during 3’s development. So he wanted both to do the series justice and make a soundtrack that worked better on the gba, especially as the first games’ soundtracks sound a little off on the gba’s mono channel tiny speaker.
The GBC version of Donkey Kong Land 3 didn't came to the USA cause Nintendo doesn't want to confuse player with the GB version of Donkey Kong Land 3 which was already released. Japanese only got it on GBC so to make up for it being a late release.
@@VOAN then explain links Awakening
Donkey Kong Land. Loved that yellow cart, and I played on a GBC so I never worried about the tearing and contrast issues.
Donkey Kong Land 2 is really nostalgic for me. I didn't have an SNES as a kid (My parents got me a Genesis), but I got a Game Boy Pocket and DKL2 was my first game on it. I was super happy to get it on 3DS a few years ago.