UPDATE on their convictions for those asking: Maria was found GUILTY of writing a bad check/checks & had 12 months probation. DROPPED CHARGES for Kevin were: Aggravated battery. Drugs Possess-Controlled Substance Without Prescription. Petit Theft. Schedule Iii Drugs: Manufacturing, Delivery, Sell, Poss. And GUILTY charges for Kevin were: GUILTY of theft $500. GUILTY of Drugs - Subsection (I) Amts. GUILTY of petty theft. GUILTY of Possession Of Drug Paraphernalia GUILTY of driving on suspended license. GUILTY of Stolen Prop Deal In-Organized GUILTY of speeding GUILTY of Second Offense: Schedule Ii Drugs: Att. Max. $100,000 Fine GUILTY of Theft-Merch.u/$500 GUILTY of Fraudulent Use Of Credit Card Over $100 GUILTY of Schedule Ii Drugs: Cocaine Att GUILTY of B/C Sch. Ii (Cocaine - Over/Under.5g) GUILTY of C Schedule Ii Drugs Their recent arrest for trespassing goes to court on 10/24. ADDED: They are both banned from Disney. Do good, genuine people REALLY get banned from the happiest place on Earth?!
@@vadisrad Holy shit. Damn. Great work. Now that packs a punch. I officially name you the "Reseller Community Crime Reporter". You're keeping us all informed & safer resellers & entertained. I'm totally down for it. I'm tired of my 34k Whatnot Facebook Group Members getting scammed on Whatnot. I think you're in my group. I don't have the time to track down every allegation to find the truth. I can't let everyone post scam alerts. I need to carve a space ( maybe an official side chat) in group for members to report on alleged crimes & run sketchy shows. I'll work on giving the group this feature if I can protect myself and the group from liability. It would have to be strictly monitored because it would become a runaway chat & complaint board. I believe a dedicated space is much needed for the Whatnot community & the Big Platforms. I was appalled when Whatnot kicked you out. I think they did you dirty and then kept known scammers on the platform. They should have embraced your help to keep the site safer. I kicked out NS when I found her in group. She has always been on my radar from her eBay days Abt 5yrs ago. She is a special kind of slippery chameleon. You could probably make a movie about her. I've never seen somebody have so many plot twists and just allegedly crimes all over the place. NS & some of her peeps must have arrest records somewhere. Again, thanks for the good work you do and keeping us informed. ~pam 💪🙋♀️
This is comical too. She used the excuse of her husband’s ( Kevin) previous arrests on his drug addiction. What’s her excuse for her criminal background?
FOIA only applies to federal agencies. State and local law enforcement will have their own regulations for requesting bodycam footage and they may or may not hand it over. There are always exemptions and the ability to redact portions of the requested information.
They only release body cam if something happened that is wrong like a officer involved shooting , a persons rights being violated I think could be wrong
@@meghandaniels3406 well technically, but local police give up video footage daily. I follow folks on UA-cam who have to pull body cam footage daily and almost never get denied.
Vanessa, if they were transported to the county jail, all their belongings would’ve been put into evidence to be released to them when they were released.
@@KrtinaTrinaK yes that is true….your belongings don’t go into a jail cell with you. They take it and put it away for safe keeping until you bail out or are released. That’s….FACT
Pharm tech here, schedule II drugs would probably be possession of unlawful controlled substances class 2, which includes like heavy pain pills, ADHD meds, etc.
Hilarious!!!!! They had to have stole that damn taffy. She lied about it being shipped from TN. Busted …my tracking says it’s sitting in Port Charlotte, FL. Which is it?
Idk if it's like this everywhere, but in Colorado all court proceedings are broadcast live on the county website.. (they aren't saved however).. maybe look and see if that county they're in does the same. And yea, like Casey said you can definitely get the bodycam.
I thought they cannot search your belongings unless they actually have evidence you stole. You could actually sue them. But, they were already trespassing so that may be enough cause.
It would be really telling if you could find the case for the first trespass. That would say if they were trespassed for theft that first time. Very odd that you can’t find it. Wonder why/how it’s being hidden from the public. It should be there from way back in July.
As a former LEO & State CO you're looking at the charges filed. Click details and see if you can see a conviction on charges aka disposition. Police Report is just what the LEO is reporting & making probable cause arrests or warnings. It's not defamation to report on Arrests & Public Info. Just add in the words "allegedly criminals" just to cya. Just CYA. Love your dedication & delivery of information. Keep up the good work ❤️ ~pam
When someone is booked into jail they take all your personal possesions that are currently on your person (wallet, keys, money, jewelry, etc). They have to catalog every piece so that you get everything back when released. Maybe they do that in the “evidence” department at that particular jail. 🤷🏼♀️
Im usually with you, but as a “seller”, she’s never failed to send her products and has never exhibited (to my view, and like you said you never watched them as I have) any scamming of her buyers. You don’t know why they logged her bag in, so what you are saying is supposition and defamatory. Especially when you lead your viewers to the assumption that it’s criminal. When you’re a WN seller and get raided by another seller, that doesn’t mean you endorse or do what the person who raided you does. While she’s “friends” with NS, what person or seller on WN is going to be like “fuck you don’t raid me”. Bringing up charges that are over 20 years old - that’s also not evidence to say they are scammers. There are reasons why courts aren’t allowed to use previous charges in a current case as they are prejudicial. Did you call the place they were booked and ask why her bag might have taken? Did you actually find out what these charges were actually for in their past when you don’t even know what the code is for the charge? Are you understanding what the charges are before you slander their name with what you ‘think’ they mean? I think with this case; you don’t get just put them on blast when your platform is about warning buyers about sellers who scam their buyers. NS, totally justifiable. Mktraders, no evidence of scamming. Could maybe it turn out that they were doing more bad to get their goods to sell? Maybe. But, without anything more than they were trespassing twice and banned from Disney property, I don’t think you should be posting these things without additional due diligence about the questions you pose (like why the bag was taken). And. Literally they have not scammed any buyers on their WN (at least my longer experience with them tells me they haven’t). Show me evidence of that before you ruin someone’s livelihood. And no, I’m not a NS cult follower nor have I ever purchased from her.
I agree. This feels INSANE??? Why’re we even talking about MK Traders? I’m semi-new to all this drama revolving WN and NS, but I’ve been a viewer of MK (and know people who’ve purchased from them) I don’t really see any issue? This feels like FLAT OUT BULLYING - this is coming from a semi-outside perspective as someone who is not fully within these communities but have people around me who are. This has got to stop - what gain is there even from talking about MK - what’s the goal 😭😭 ????!!!! Also who even is VAD is RAD - why is her opinion valid and good (genuine question).
Why Mksomething didn’t send a clear message to Vanesa instead they were sneaky about their responses? I don’t know but in my book if you have a police record you are one step away from be a scammer. If you apologize and forget that past behavior kudos to you.
MK led us to believe her house was so badly damaged….. I felt she was really misleading us after showing the “damage”’to her home. When a massive hurricane is about to hit, you get cash!! Shouldn’t have to beg for it on a live selling app.
there have been quite a few allegations that their charity streams aren't real. so I will be investigating that. nothing that I said is defamatory. I literally read the affidavit & asked my viewers THEIR THOUGHTS ON WHY THE BAG WAS TAKEN. I'm allowed to do that. the reason I had to dig & bring up their past was because Maria LIED & said she wasn't a criminal. she said I was the one lying. so yeah I had to bring up some "irrelevant" stuff from the past to prove I was correct in calling her a criminal. we will see after October 24th what the verdict was & if they really DID steal from Disney. I will be sure to keep you updated :)
@@desireedegenar6110that’s what I thought too but I think those are called CII drugs now that I think about it, I think schedule II drug charge in law means they were distributing or selling
Perfect example, Maria the seller talking about personal things during a show and bad mouthing Vanessa. What does all this have to do with selling ,so unprofessional.
Yes!!!!!!! I watched her on WN yesterday. Shit doesn’t add up. First of all when she had the taffy fundraising show, she made it sound like her house was destroyed and they had no money for gas and hotels. Yesterday she showed the “awful damaged” to her house with a freaking pool ( I was picturing her house completely flooded out, unhabitable) Come on now!!! I wonder what the money she got from her taffy show was really for. Court fees maybe? Every Florida resident knows you get money out before a Hurricane! She needs counseling. (Like she said, we all have a past. Most of us don’t put it out in a live selling app That’s what counseling is for ). I agree why get into your troubled childhood on a live yet she kept saying we need to forgive things her drug addicted boyfriend, husband, whatever the relationship is, did in the past. Which is it? Forgive and forget? Or let’s remember the past? I hope this video brings you tons of cash, Vanessa!! She’s a Nicole, version 2. I didn’t like the victim card she played. (And curses more that you. Haha she’s a class act!)
Andddd rewatching the taffy fundraiser show of theirs makes my blood boil!! She really played it up how bad they had it without specifically saying what the fundraiser was for. Led us to believe it was for Hurricane loss…while she was in Atlantic City partying!! Scam scam scam And…. If they had no money, where and how did they get all of this taffy?? Hmmmmmmm pins….taffy…. 5 dollar discount!?
UPDATE on their convictions for those asking:
Maria was found GUILTY of writing a bad check/checks & had 12 months probation.
DROPPED CHARGES for Kevin were: Aggravated battery. Drugs Possess-Controlled Substance Without Prescription. Petit Theft. Schedule Iii Drugs: Manufacturing, Delivery, Sell, Poss.
And GUILTY charges for Kevin were:
GUILTY of theft $500.
GUILTY of Drugs - Subsection (I) Amts.
GUILTY of petty theft.
GUILTY of Possession Of Drug Paraphernalia
GUILTY of driving on suspended license.
GUILTY of Stolen Prop Deal In-Organized
GUILTY of speeding
GUILTY of Second Offense: Schedule Ii Drugs: Att. Max. $100,000 Fine
GUILTY of Theft-Merch.u/$500
GUILTY of Fraudulent Use Of Credit Card Over $100
GUILTY of Schedule Ii Drugs: Cocaine Att
GUILTY of B/C Sch. Ii (Cocaine - Over/Under.5g)
GUILTY of C Schedule Ii Drugs
Their recent arrest for trespassing goes to court on 10/24.
ADDED: They are both banned from Disney. Do good, genuine people REALLY get banned from the happiest place on Earth?!
@@vadisrad Holy shit. Damn. Great work. Now that packs a punch. I officially name you the "Reseller Community Crime Reporter".
You're keeping us all informed & safer resellers & entertained. I'm totally down for it. I'm tired of my 34k Whatnot Facebook Group Members getting scammed on Whatnot. I think you're in my group. I don't have the time to track down every allegation to find the truth. I can't let everyone post scam alerts. I need to carve a space ( maybe an official side chat) in group for members to report on alleged crimes & run sketchy shows. I'll work on giving the group this feature if I can protect myself and the group from liability. It would have to be strictly monitored because it would become a runaway chat & complaint board. I believe a dedicated space is much needed for the Whatnot community & the Big Platforms.
I was appalled when Whatnot kicked you out. I think they did you dirty and then kept known scammers on the platform. They should have embraced your help to keep the site safer.
I kicked out NS when I found her in group. She has always been on my radar from her eBay days Abt 5yrs ago. She is a special kind of slippery chameleon. You could probably make a movie about her. I've never seen somebody have so many plot twists and just allegedly crimes all over the place. NS & some of her peeps must have arrest records somewhere.
Again, thanks for the good work you do and keeping us informed. ~pam 💪🙋♀️
This is comical too. She used the excuse of her husband’s ( Kevin) previous arrests on his drug addiction. What’s her excuse for her criminal background?
Unicourt for the win! 😂
Nicole & these people are friends? Doesn't suprise me. Birds of a feather...........
FOIA the bodycam... Freedom of information act from that police department. It's public information and they will hand it over
FOIA only applies to federal agencies. State and local law enforcement will have their own regulations for requesting bodycam footage and they may or may not hand it over. There are always exemptions and the ability to redact portions of the requested information.
They only release body cam if something happened that is wrong like a officer involved shooting , a persons rights being violated I think could be wrong
@@meghandaniels3406 well technically, but local police give up video footage daily. I follow folks on UA-cam who have to pull body cam footage daily and almost never get denied.
Florida has state level laws to release body cam footage so yes she can get it!
Vanessa, if they were transported to the county jail, all their belongings would’ve been put into evidence to be released to them when they were released.
She was arrested for trespassing, all her belongings are taken, standard procedure
that's not true.... don't ask me how i know lol....... ok
@@RockstarFlipper glad to see you and the family are ok after Milton
It said "taken as evidence." That's definitely NOT standard
@@KrtinaTrinaK yes that is true….your belongings don’t go into a jail cell with you. They take it and put it away for safe keeping until you bail out or are released. That’s….FACT
Sounds like gems
Schedule Ii = Schedule 2, and Iii = 3. Hope this helps coming from a pharm tech.
Most courts have court cam.. that would be fun to watch
Pharm tech here, schedule II drugs would probably be possession of unlawful controlled substances class 2, which includes like heavy pain pills, ADHD meds, etc.
But now that I think about it, that might be a code for the way they sold them ?
Who gets banned from Disney???? Lmao
right?!?!?
Anyone who works retail knows why they took the bag.... nough said.
They take it to search it and keep if it was stolen or if they’re arrested until they’re out
Not for evidence. They would not say they took her black tote for EVIDENCE is different.
@@joannebutts8066 it said it was taken into evidence
Hilarious!!!!! They had to have stole that damn taffy. She lied about it being shipped from TN. Busted …my tracking says it’s sitting in Port Charlotte, FL. Which is it?
Idk if it's like this everywhere, but in Colorado all court proceedings are broadcast live on the county website.. (they aren't saved however).. maybe look and see if that county they're in does the same.
And yea, like Casey said you can definitely get the bodycam.
I thought they cannot search your belongings unless they actually have evidence you stole. You could actually sue them. But, they were already trespassing so that may be enough cause.
It would be really telling if you could find the case for the first trespass. That would say if they were trespassed for theft that first time. Very odd that you can’t find it. Wonder why/how it’s being hidden from the public. It should be there from way back in July.
In her WN show, Maria mentioned something about “getting in a fight” but wouldn’t elaborate
Thanks!
Thank you! 💜
As a former LEO & State CO you're looking at the charges filed. Click details and see if you can see a conviction on charges aka disposition.
Police Report is just what the LEO is reporting & making probable cause arrests or warnings.
It's not defamation to report on Arrests & Public Info. Just add in the words "allegedly criminals" just to cya.
Just CYA. Love your dedication & delivery of information. Keep up the good work ❤️ ~pam
just updated it in my pinned comment!
Vanessa what lipgloss are you wearing and what color? It looks very pretty!
I love lipgloss with little color.
I don’t like the reds or corals on me.
thanks! it's Summer Fridays lip butter in vanilla beige!
@@vadisrad Thanks so much!
When someone is booked into jail they take all your personal possesions that are currently on your person (wallet, keys, money, jewelry, etc). They have to catalog every piece so that you get everything back when released. Maybe they do that in the “evidence” department at that particular jail. 🤷🏼♀️
@@zolatrascher2162 yes I know that. it's just the fact it said it was taken into evidence that's throwing me off.
Mk traders are rude people I was blocked from her room for nothing.
Lololol rob cheryl is now mktraders mod? Kuz that’s not shady 😂
Right? 😂
Im usually with you, but as a “seller”, she’s never failed to send her products and has never exhibited (to my view, and like you said you never watched them as I have) any scamming of her buyers. You don’t know why they logged her bag in, so what you are saying is supposition and defamatory. Especially when you lead your viewers to the assumption that it’s criminal. When you’re a WN seller and get raided by another seller, that doesn’t mean you endorse or do what the person who raided you does. While she’s “friends” with NS, what person or seller on WN is going to be like “fuck you don’t raid me”. Bringing up charges that are over 20 years old - that’s also not evidence to say they are scammers. There are reasons why courts aren’t allowed to use previous charges in a current case as they are prejudicial. Did you call the place they were booked and ask why her bag might have taken? Did you actually find out what these charges were actually for in their past when you don’t even know what the code is for the charge? Are you understanding what the charges are before you slander their name with what you ‘think’ they mean? I think with this case; you don’t get just put them on blast when your platform is about warning buyers about sellers who scam their buyers. NS, totally justifiable. Mktraders, no evidence of scamming. Could maybe it turn out that they were doing more bad to get their goods to sell? Maybe. But, without anything more than they were trespassing twice and banned from Disney property, I don’t think you should be posting these things without additional due diligence about the questions you pose (like why the bag was taken). And. Literally they have not scammed any buyers on their WN (at least my longer experience with them tells me they haven’t). Show me evidence of that before you ruin someone’s livelihood. And no, I’m not a NS cult follower nor have I ever purchased from her.
I agree. This feels INSANE??? Why’re we even talking about MK Traders? I’m semi-new to all this drama revolving WN and NS, but I’ve been a viewer of MK (and know people who’ve purchased from them) I don’t really see any issue? This feels like FLAT OUT BULLYING - this is coming from a semi-outside perspective as someone who is not fully within these communities but have people around me who are. This has got to stop - what gain is there even from talking about MK - what’s the goal 😭😭 ????!!!! Also who even is VAD is RAD - why is her opinion valid and good (genuine question).
Why Mksomething didn’t send a clear message to Vanesa instead they were sneaky about their responses? I don’t know but in my book if you have a police record you are one step away from be a scammer. If you apologize and forget that past behavior kudos to you.
MK led us to believe her house was so badly damaged….. I felt she was really misleading us after showing the “damage”’to her home. When a massive hurricane is about to hit, you get cash!! Shouldn’t have to beg for it on a live selling app.
@@sethbutler7200 Seth you came to MY CHANNEL & asked me who I was HAHA.
there have been quite a few allegations that their charity streams aren't real. so I will be investigating that. nothing that I said is defamatory. I literally read the affidavit & asked my viewers THEIR THOUGHTS ON WHY THE BAG WAS TAKEN. I'm allowed to do that. the reason I had to dig & bring up their past was because Maria LIED & said she wasn't a criminal. she said I was the one lying. so yeah I had to bring up some "irrelevant" stuff from the past to prove I was correct in calling her a criminal. we will see after October 24th what the verdict was & if they really DID steal from Disney. I will be sure to keep you updated :)
God I love, and look forward to your videos! I just love you Vad! ❤ Keep setting these fkin idiots straight! 💯
The black tote bag had the pins in it,that's why they took it.
Hahaha, their mug shots. So gross.
It means schedule 2 drugs
Some examples if schedule II (two) drugs can be cocaine, morphine, oxycodone, ect....so some kind of drugs.
@@desireedegenar6110that’s what I thought too but I think those are called CII drugs now that I think about it, I think schedule II drug charge in law means they were distributing or selling
Perfect example, Maria the seller talking about personal things during a show and bad mouthing Vanessa. What does all this have to do with selling ,so unprofessional.
in her own words, she was doing "damage control." HAHAHAAAA
Yes!!!!!!! I watched her on WN yesterday. Shit doesn’t add up. First of all when she had the taffy fundraising show, she made it sound like her house was destroyed and they had no money for gas and hotels. Yesterday she showed the “awful damaged” to her house with a freaking pool ( I was picturing her house completely flooded out, unhabitable) Come on now!!! I wonder what the money she got from her taffy show was really for. Court fees maybe? Every Florida resident knows you get money out before a Hurricane! She needs counseling. (Like she said, we all have a past. Most of us don’t put it out in a live selling app That’s what counseling is for ). I agree why get into your troubled childhood on a live yet she kept saying we need to forgive things her drug addicted boyfriend, husband, whatever the relationship is, did in the past. Which is it? Forgive and forget? Or let’s remember the past?
I hope this video brings you tons of cash, Vanessa!! She’s a Nicole, version 2. I didn’t like the victim card she played. (And curses more that you. Haha she’s a class act!)
Andddd rewatching the taffy fundraiser show of theirs makes my blood boil!! She really played it up how bad they had it without specifically saying what the fundraiser was for. Led us to believe it was for Hurricane loss…while she was in Atlantic City partying!! Scam scam scam
And…. If they had no money, where and how did they get all of this taffy?? Hmmmmmmm pins….taffy…. 5 dollar discount!?
If your house gets damaged it’s called insurance
So are these actual convictions? Just curious. Also alias could even be nicknames. Just saying.
check out my pinned comment. I broke it down conviction by conviction
Ayyoo.
METH MUCH