Classical Composer Reacts to Magic Man (Heart) | The Daily Doug (Episode 555)
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- Опубліковано 28 бер 2023
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In this edition of #thedailydoug, I'm featuring music by Heart for a Woman Wednesday. I'm listening to the full album version of Magic Man, the lead song from their debut album Dreamboat Annie. I had never previously heard the extended version, and I really enjoyed it. I hope you do as well!
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Ann's voice is just sublime. She's in the very top of the list of best rock singers of all time.
Absolutely.
Agreed.
She was. Floor has taken that mantle now.
@Tea, Earl Grey, Hot Ann still Rocks and Floor is Awesome
@@emjem99- Floor is great, so I guess that means Ann isn’t anymore. Why is it all or nothing?
Ann played Wacken Open Air, one of the big Metal festivals over here in Europe, last year with her solo band and they opened with Magic Man. She still sounds incredible at 70+.
Holy shit, I'm checking that out immediately. Thanks for the tip!
One of the real things that I miss about over the air radio is the album oriented rock format. We always had AOR in my area and we got the album tracks instead of the single tracks on our radio. I really miss those days!
My reaction to doug saying it was a radio cut he always heard was "doug must never have listened to AOR"
@@tsteeleosuou yep!
wow, I was sitting here thinking, that it depended on what station you were listening to. The AOR station played the extended tracks. Especially later at night
Yup. Me too.
One of the coolest things about the internet and AOR radio is that there are still a few AOR stations which have an internet presence. Such as WDNS FM in bowling Green Kentucky which has an app where you can listen to them from anywhere in the world and a phone number you can call and make request. You can make requests no matter where you're at! I love having a station that plays requests and records your voice for inclusion on where those tracks were suggested. Peace!
And thts why they are the queens of rock .
I still have my original vinyl. Love this album. The 70s had a lot of bad pop music, but the rock music that came out during the 70s is timeless and women held their own. The title song of their album Dog and Butterfly, which came out a few years later, is one of my favorites songs of all time.
It wasn't supposed to be a concept album but the producer Mike Flicker had the idea to make the 3 versions of Dreamboat Annie to tie the album together, so it's "concept-lite" I guess. Ann and Nancy liked that aspect and the follow up album "Magazine" was intended to actually be a concept album even with a magazine-like booklet full of pictures and stories, but then all the legal mess with the record company happened.
There is a radio edit of this song that does shorten the instrumental and was probably played more often back then, but rock stations usually play the whole song.
Heart is awesome. I've been listening to them since Dreamboat Annie was released and still go see them anytime I can, recently in a small town in Minnesota!
This beautiful album never dates...it still sounds fresh. The Wilson sisters certainly know how to craft excellent music ❤❤❤👌👏👏👏👏😊😊
Goddamn I love Heart. It's musically clever, has catchy melodies, and is just straight-up no nonsense rock and roll. It isn't trying to be super flashy at all, but there are lots of layers and cool little things you pick up on even after many listens. Fantastic band.
Need to do " Mistral Wind ", " Love Alive ", and " Sylvan song/Dream Of The Archer " too
I just commented that "Mistral Wind" and "Love Alive" are far beyond in composition level to MM, "Barracuda", and COY, which seem to be the main three reaction channels limit themselves to with Heart. Love "Sylvan song/Dream Of The Archer" as well.
One of the most perplexing things to me about reaction channels and Heart is that their best songs, like "Love Alive", "Mistral Wind", and "Dog & Butterfly" never get reacted to. It's always "Magic Man", "Barracuda", and "Crazy On You". Those are good songs, but they do not match the composition level of the other three I mentioned. I hope Doug gets to those some time.
"Heading out this morning into the sun," is all it took for me to become a Heart fan.
This album is in my top five. I totally hear ya'.
Heart has a very special place in my, well, heart. I'm a child of the 70s, and my mom was a big Heart fan. She died when I was very young, and I don't have many memories of her. One is looking at the Dreamboat Annie album cover and thinking that one of them (probably Ann) was her. Another is that she drove a big ol' Plymouth Barracuda, so I associate the Heart song "Barracuda" with that car, and thus with my mom. (Another is that she hated scrambled eggs, which is apropos of nothing, but I thought I'd share the memory because it makes me smile.)
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I can't say as if I have ever heard an abbreviated version of this song on the radio. This is the version I have always heard. ✌️
Yeah, I've never heard this without the cool guitar and synth solos.
That was the difference between FM AOR stations and Top 40 stations in the 70s.
Heart's Magic Man was a real game-changer back in the day. Great track.
Magic Man, Hearltess, Barracuda, Crazy on You, Kick it out, Love Alive and Straight On - Ann was seriously on her game in the 70's and 80's.
Doug - In Houston in '77 and '78, we had a radio station called (KRL)"Y-94". It's still there today and plays current radio drivel, but, at that time, for that brief period, it was the most amazing album-oriented rock station - I remember hearing Styx Grand Illusion on there for the first time.
Every night at 10:30, they would play a whole album from start to finish. I had never heard Heart before, had no idea who they were, or heard anything about them. The DJ came on and said we're tracking a new album tonight and this is a great one. The group is Heart and the Album is Dreamboat Annie... I sat there listening on my headphones just blown away.
A friend of mine, Dave Wilson, no relation to the Wilson sisters, played drums on Magic Man. He was in a neighboring room at Mushroom Studios in Vancouver laying down tracks for another band. As he explained to me, Heart was having problems finding a drummer who gave them the groove they wanted so they went to the next studio over looking for a drummer to try out, they found Dave, he gave it a shot and laid down the groove they wanted.
He was also a singing drummer and he used that high "Ow" that David Lee Roth frequently uses. He claims that Roth started using that after Roth heard Dave sing and play somewhere in California back in the '70s. I have no idea if that is true or not and it's pretty much impossible to verify, but I do know that Dave is no liar and the Magic Man story is 100% true and verifiable. He is listed in the song and album credits.
A number of the studio musicians on the album Dreamboat Annie went on to very successful careers in Canada. Among others, Rob Deans went on to play keyboards for Trooper, and Ray Ayotte founded the world famous drums maker, Ayotte Drums.
Anyways, Doug, you can refer to me as Cliff Claven from now on.
Great channel Doug, when I want to learn about music I turn to you and Rick Beato. About a month ago I finally put together a proper audio system in my home including a Pro-Ject turntable with a high grade cartridge. That gave me an opportunity to dust off my record collection that sat dormant for nearly 3 decades. This Heart album "Dreamboat Annie" was in my collection and I always liked the band. So I set the record on and started playing it while reading the lyrics etc. It took me few minutes to realize that this record is exceptionally well recorded because for 40 minutes all I heard was silk and honey coming from my speakers. Out of curiosity I started to look for the name of the producer of that record. The man's name is MIKE FLICKER, who also produced several well known bands of the day. Anyway, as it turned out, Mike Flicker was recognized for this particular album with a 1975 Canadian Juno Award for Producer of the Year. I am no musician, but my ears guided me well that evening one month ago. All the best Doug.
I still remember bringing home Heart’s Dreamboat Annie from the Jersey Shore boardwalk. The singer of my current favorite band was snapped wearing a Heart shirt the other day. They’re Band-Maid, a Japanese all-women progressive hard rock band you should check out. I’d recommend either Different or Puzzle. If you do live videos, try Manners/Black Hole. The former is groove-based classic rock and the latter is batsh*t crazy prog punk metal.
This was one of the formative songs of my youth. Similar to Hotel California, this song evoked a story in my imagination. Also, to your question of whether this was ever on the radio: In our market, there was an FM station that would play full album versions of songs including full album sides! RIP 70's KQRS 🤟
gosh i love heart, and the Wilsons in particular. Ann's voice has aged like fine wine too-- have you heard their cover of Stairway for the Kennedy Centre tribute to Zepplin? Jason Bonham on drums for that too. Absolutely amazing.
Sure hope he reacts to that......... just beautiful ✌️
This guitar sound was all over the radio in Pittsburgh. That hook.
Every track on album was superb, worthy of awards
Ann Wilson has to be in the top 5 best Rock vocalists.
And Nancy Wilson is a great acoustic guitar player, at the least.
The original rhythm section of Heart was so tight. Deeeeep pockets.
I ran into this album back in 1977. Their first 4 albums are their best. Of those, this one is tops.
I remember the radio station that played this. They'd catch all kinds of crap from callers for not playing the original, long version. And you're right, driving down the road, hearing that long version would almost put me in a trance.
You have confirmed my high opinion of your taste with your comment about (If You Love Me Like Music) I"ll Be Your Song, which I think is the most underappreciated deep cut in the Heart repertoire. Time to sign up on Patreon...
I've been enjoying your channel for some time now, I'm a 63 year old Army vet, and from the 80's through the early 2000's I was a FM radio jock, so I was around when bands like Heart first burst on to the scene, all the way back to the music that was around when I was in my teens in the 70's, I enjoy how you react and breakdown "my" music...I thouroughly enjoy when you imbibe "with me"...Rock ON!!!
"There's a lot of sh*t going on in this song." This is why we love you, Doug. 🙂
This is the only version I've ever heard, even on the radio. For me, it's all about when the Minimoog comes in.
Doug the extended album version was played on most FM stations in the Metro NY area when the album was released. Although AM stations were playing the edited version (yes AM played great music across all genres in the seventies)…
This album was the first I bought when I was ... eleven or twelve. Still one of my favorite albums. Of course I know every note of it because I played it a couple a times a day. My second album was A Farewell to Kings by Rush and my third Yessongs. After On Stage by Rainbow, I lost count ;-).
Magic Man, Crazy on You, Soul of the Sea. This music holds such great memories.
They always played the full lp versions on our local classic rock station.
I remember the synthesizer break version being played on the radio--perhaps it was later dropped when by the time it was considered "classic" rock.
If you listened to Album Oriented Rock back in the 70’s, & 80’s… this is the version you heard. On Long Island we had WBAB, WRCN, WPLJ (from NYC), and depending on where you lived, you could periodically get WPLR, New Haven Connecticut. All great AOR. This version and the extended version of Crazy On You are just complete Eargasms.
A legendary band for sure
Ann is still going Strong and was at thd Wacken during the summer. Ann and Nancy both had albums come out the same time ayear ago. It's their 50th Anniversary this year. They are both still Beautiful. Yhey both were on tour. I saw Nancy and Styx her in Lethbridge Alberta Canada.
Still have my first Mushroom Records release copy of Dreamboat Annie . Can remember sitting around with some friends in the spring of 76 on a bright sunny afternoon listening to the album from beginning to end. And, when they were starting to tour the album I saw them live in April opening for April Wine. I still love the yin-yang of the earlier albums with the mix of acoustic and electric guitar.
Quite the double-bill! Wow!!
Extended versions...that is what late night FM stations were for in the 70's
I had the pleasure of seeing these ladies a while ago, in fact almost 50 years now.
It was August 16th 1977, at a little venue on the boardwalk in Asbury Park, New Jersey. Rick Derringer opened for them.
They did songs from this album and their new, at the time, album "Little Queen".
This is purely the album and live cut version. In fact there's a live version on UA-cam from 1978 floating around.
I think most radio stations played the long album version. It's just too cool not to.
Thanks for sharing your experience, Doug. This album is in my top 5 of all time and music. I got chills just from hearing you mention "Love Me Like Music"! Fantastic stuff.
Love the reverb at the end. 😊
That rythem git is getting up and walking around!
I'm sure there was a shortened radio version, but back in the 1970's and into the 1980's, FM radio was often playing whole songs. They played the "And You and I" and "The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys" in their entirety, in the early 80's. Then came the dark times....
All the responsible classic rock stations I've listened to have always played the full thing. You gotta find the right stations, I guess.
BINGO!!! (At least back in the 70s and 80s.)
When you listened to album rock radio in the 70’s you heard the whole song.
That Mini-Moog is a good way to test how low your speakers can go. After it initially comes in, it drops real low - but stays there for a few bars before slowly rising back up. If you can hear it the whole time rumbling down there, then you're good to go.
The reason I have this album is because of the radio edit that played during the day in my town back in the summer of '76. I was only 10 at time, but I used to record songs from the radio onto a portable cassette player that I'd lean against the speaker. My early foray into mixed tapes, as it were. The station would play the full-length track at night, but I was usually in bed by then. I tried calling the station during the day asking to play the long version (back when they took requests - even from a 10 year old boy). They played the song, but it was still the edited version. I was a bit sad by the time my mother came home from work, so she actually drove to a record store to get the single. Strange as it was, but while the radio had an edited version, the actual single you buy was always the full 5 and a half minute album cut. However, they were sold out at the time, so she bought the "Dreamboat Annie" album instead.
I kept that album in my collection when I started buying records myself 4 years later. Still have it today.
By the way, the U.S. release was in the summer of '76 when Mushroom couldn't get a U.S. based label to pick it up, so they opened up an L.A. office and released it themselves a year after the initial '75 Canadian release. That's why the U.S. copyright year on the album is 1976 even after Capitol bought the rights in '85 (along with the "Magazine" album) from the by-then bankrupt Mushroom Records. But now, most re-issues will say "1975, 1976".
Also, all the regular band members were not yet set when this album was recorded. They didn't have a set drummer yet, so Dave Wilson (no relation to the sisters) sat in on the "Magic Man" sessions. Howard Leese was a studio session player who worked for Can-Base Studios (later renamed Mushroom Studios) and Mushroom Records, so he was there for the whole album session - start to finish - but not officially a band member. He said himself that he preferred to be a studio rat than actually be in a band. He was the only real trained musician in the group who also studied the violin and music theory at L.A. City College. But Heart asked him to join once the album was done and they were touring to promote it. He relented and joined. Stayed with them until 1998. Drummer Michael Derosier was also only a session player and only appears on 2 of this album's tracks (and is NOT on either hit), but he too joined full-time upon completion of this record.
I don't know which radio stations you've heard this on, but the "classic rock" station in Cleveland plays the full album track, on the (rare?) occasions that they play the song at all.
So happy to gave grown up listening to an AOR station. I got to hear all of these original uncut album versions. Thanks, Doug.
Listened to fm college Station back in the day always heard complete songs
I was fortunate to have had an 'album rock' FM station in my area.....they NEVER played the 45 version of anything and people liked that and the station was very popular for many years until the Rock era ended, sadly, in the late 1980's or early 90's
The ringing decay of the toms sound amazing each time the rest of the band is silent.
5:35
I didn't fall in love with this song until the early-80s when I started listening a lot more to FM Rock radio and they played the full-length 5:27 album version. I was pretty blown away. I hadn't been all that crazy about the song when it first came out in 1976 but when I begin hearing this version I was absolutely sold. Still love this song so much. ❤
Bought this album shortly after its release at a flea market for a $1,best dang dollar i've spent my whole life!
May I recommend your next foray into Heart be "Cry to Me" and "Go On Cry" from the Dream Of The Archer album. They are often considered "sister" songs...which is somewhat ironic.
Little Queen album
@@joedecker3900 yep, got my wires crossed on that. Between the song "Dream of the Archer" and the cover photo, I always get that wrong. Thanks for the catch!
Dream of the Archer is awesome, I still have the vinyl!!
Also interesting to note that the guitar is tuned differently, so the guitar solo is kinda different because of that. The high E string and the B are tuned up a step and a half I believe.
back in the day (the 70's), we would go to FM radio to hear the album cuts!
Modern synths can do some amazing things, but I still miss that classic early sine wave and/or sawtooth wave synth sound.
Also, album-oriented rock (AOR) stations of the 70s usually would play the longer album versions of songs instead of the radio edits. Sometimes they would play whole albums, regardless of what was released as singles.
My high school days. I love Heart, great music.
I credit this album with rescuing us all from the dark tyranny of disco.
One of the greatest rock songs of the 70s, if you were alive when this song came out it was on literally all the time.
Philly aor radio only played the album cuts in the 70s. WMMR and WYSP were awesome.
I just love the 3 versions of Dreamboat Annie!
Thursday or Friday would be a great time to do " In Held Twas In I" Doug, in honor of Keith Reid.🤔🕊️
Doug, there were two classes of radio stations in the late 60's. AM which was pop music, news, talk, and sports; and then there was FM dominated by music mostly classical but Rock came on strong . Lots of Hippies running those stations, and they played stuff of the albums as opposed to singles off of 45s. So you heard the abridged version of the instrumental Bridge. The long and winding road to my answer. Lol. Damm hippies
Edit to add:
Mono vs Stereo also was a factor in the early days as well.
"In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida"
17:05 (album version)
2:52 (single version)
hehe
The low bass line half way through was a nice bit of ear candy on a good sound system back in the day.
Brilliant album.
I'd been aware of Barracuda and Crazy On You like forever and that album needed to be in my collection. I ended up finding a nice LP and it's gold front to back!!
An incredible all female metal band I discovered a year ago worth checking out is Lovebites. Check out their song Stand and Deliver off their latest album Judgement Day.
THis being the time period of groups producing albums, not just songs, often a piece would have to be edited down to the 3 1/2-minute time limit on most AM stations to fit in more commercials. Fortunately, FM radio was really picking up steam in the mid-70's and the AOR (Album-Oriented Rock) stations didn't give a hoot about time restrictions. My older brother and sister were both hooked on WLRS in Louisville in this time period and this is the only version of Magic Man I knew from being an impressionable 9-year-old in 1975. Also where I got my first taste of Yes, though I didn't catch on until high school and 90125.
PS Doug- look up the 3:29 single edit of "Roundabout" from Yes. You'll think you're having a stroke.
Roger Fisher is the Magic Man on the guitar leads.
that's the only version that I know. Wasn't even aware there was a radio edit version. That would be criminal to eliminate that synth section in the middle.
I love hearing a professor of music say, "There's a lot of sh!t going on"! Had me cracking up. Stay genuine Doug.
I'm just the opposite--don't really remember the short radio cut. Might have the first year or two after it came out, but ever since FM took over the stations I listened to played the album version and the short version was forgotten. This is still my favorite Heart song.
Love that song. I've been a Heart fan since the day the first album dropped.
Una fregna davvero assurda... ❤
The first album I ever bought. What a beginning to rock and roll.
I've always loved the long solo section..🔥
I've heard this song hundreds of times on DC area radio from the day it was released until today, and I've never heard a shortened version. The reason I know is because my favorite parts of the song are the solo guitar and synth sections, and I would be very unhappy if those were cut out!
Yeah, the square wave sound from the synth (my guess is that it's a MiniMoog) is a vintage 1970s synth sound.
DC 101 always played the full version.
@@davidmccar yup! The later classic rock stations always played the full version too: 94.7 MHz The Arrow and 100.3 MHz BIG100. DC101 sucks so bad now....
Besides the amazing vocals, song composition, there is that amazing lead guitar work. Just flat out a stunning song.
Pretty sure WLS-Chicago always played the album cut in the 70s. The song I never heard the album cut on the radio was Blondie's Call Me; that was always the radio edit. Heart is a great band and a prominent part of my 70s childhood. Heartless by Heart is another banger, one of many.
Mike Fisher was the manager...Roger Fisher (married to Nancy) was the lead guitarist.
Married to Nancy? No. They were a couple, and when Nancy decided she preferred Michael Derosier, that was the end of the relationship, with Roger trashing his guitar onstage and walking off in the middle of a gig. He was fired as a result.
Sick tune
Another great video, Doug. One thing (and I apologize if this was already pointed out): Mike Fisher is the brother of original lead guitarist Roger Fisher. Mike managed the band in the 70s and dated Ann. Roger dated Nancy. When those relationships fractured, the men were pushed out. Many fans never got over it, as the original band is considered the quintessential version of Heart, but stuff happens and people move on. To those fans still clamoring for a reunion, I’d ask how would you feel about working that closely with an ex from forty years ago? Not so appealing, is it?
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I'm sure that someone pointed this out already but Mike Fisher was Roger's brother and their manager but not a guitar player.
Probably played this song 300 times in a cover band. Fun to play on drums. Triggered some of the keys with my Roland sample pad. Heart's best song IMO.
He's got magic hands... y'all 😂
The Fisher brother were entangled with the ladies. The younger brother played lead guitar and was with Nancy. The older Fisher was with Ann.
This song is about a girl obsessed with some guy. Probably relates more to women, but I'm just some guy and this song is awesome.
Hi Doug I would love you to review Jeff Wayne’s War Of The Worlds It could be regarded a prog album. Don’t think it did anything in the US but was a top album here in the UK. It has Richard Burton narrating the album with words taken from the book by H G Wells. Some of the people taking part are Justin Hayward, Phill Lynott, Chris Thompson and David Essex. You might now the track Forever Autumn. It’s a fantastic album and I think people would appreciate it
This person in the US loves War of the Worlds. I own it on vinyl, cassette and cd!
Great album! It’s Phil Lynott, btw, not Phill.
Hey Doug,not only Magic Man a great song, Barracuda is a great rocking song also ya gotta hear😁👍
Love Heart!
Dreamboat Annie is on my playlist.
second half is hella vibes
I usually hear the full version on the radio.
Doug must be an AM radio guy.